groovy is good
#dev-general
jovial warren
^ wat?
prisma wave
optional parentheses
astral quiver
Groovy DSL I just break my head to know what I can but in the DSL
prisma wave
also you can legitimately say you know 2 languages if you use groovy dsl
rather than kotlin
astral quiver
Optional parentheses I don't think is a good choice for a language, it make the code base inconsistent e hard to read
jovial warren
^ I agree
also, tasks.withType<TaskName> makes more sense to me than just taskName
astral quiver
Just to you know, here in my job, in a Flutter project we are defining what goes first
The order of the parameters in the component call
Like, functions always the last ones
astral quiver
Currently taskName is supported
jovial warren
the idea of Flutter is good, but dart isn't the best
prisma wave
dart is fine
astral quiver
And I really like, is more simple
jovial warren
it's a bit like Kotlin and Java combined in to one big mess
prisma wave
and JS
jovial warren
sorry, make that Kotlin, Java and JS
onyx loom
also you can legitimately say you know 2 languages if you use groovy dsl
@prisma wave i know two languages 😎
prisma wave
jovial warren
I know two languages
Kotlin and Java
and I can say I know a third if reading Elara's documentation counts lol
onyx loom
(even tho i dont know anything in groovy except the regular build script)
astral quiver
I know Elara 👈
prisma wave
astral quiver
I'm a Big Brain folk
jovial warren
let myFunction = () => {
let hello = "Hello mother fuckers xD"
print hello
}
I is big brain
astral quiver
The hard part for me when I was using gradle with groovy is fix bugs in the buildscript
prisma wave
huge
jovial warren
I swear buildscript isn't even a thing any more
prisma wave
although the mut is unnecessary
jovial warren
yeah ik
prisma wave
and the convention (i think) is gonna be kebab-case
astral quiver
Looks that kinda of folks that uses var in Kotlin
jovial warren
I'm not lol
astral quiver
Val >>>
jovial warren
yeah ik
I use var very, very rarely these days
because 99% of the time, you're setting immutable values anyway
astral quiver
Yes, it's very nice to see that when I was writing java I kinda never use final
jovial warren
oh when I'm writing Java, I write it like it's Kotlin
astral quiver
Kotlin makes me a better developer just because is more friendly to do that right thing
jovial warren
I use @Nullable and @NotNull literally everywhere, I make all parameters final and ensure most things are final where they need to be, and I do some other things as well
distant sun
Any idea why after updating to last version, IIJ keep freezing and say it runs on low memory?
astral quiver
Currently, I do the same, but basically I never use java anymore
jovial warren
being able to compress final @NotNull String name = "Callum"; in to just val name = "Callum" is one of the best things ever
when I'm writing Java, I always find it really annoying having to constantly press the right arrow key to get to the end of the line to put in a semicolon
prisma wave
End key >
jovial warren
in Kotlin, we don't worry about those
quiet depot
@distant sun have you tried giving it more memory?
jovial warren
^
quiet depot
well when software gets new features, it also takes up more system resources
jovial warren
I have it set at 8192 because I can lol
astral quiver
Today is the day that ASM will kick my ass
quiet depot
i think my ij uses 600m
jovial warren
I got 32 GB RAM so I'm fine setting it to a maximum of 8192
quiet depot
what u using asm for?
jovial warren
^ I think he's doing some wacky bytecode editing lol
quiet depot
wat
jovial warren
^
astral quiver
I explain in one sec
jovial warren
(Bukkript = Bukkit Kotlin API btw if you're confused pig)
quiet depot
oh
jovial warren
no idea what that is
quiet depot
sxtanna was doing something like that
jovial warren
this is why Kotlin good Java bad xD
quiet depot
lel pretty sure bm was also doing something like that with plumber
jovial warren
extension functions make this much easier
quiet depot
ig every kotlin dev goes through that phase
jovial warren
wdym
astral quiver
I start this project two years ago
jovial warren
the "Kotlin good Java bad" phase?
astral quiver
But Kotlin scripting was not ready yet
jovial warren
I suppose Java is still good, it's just that Kotlin offers a lot more and makes my life a lot easier
quiet depot
in kotlin*
jovial warren
the phase of making a bukkit dsl
lol
astral quiver
Bukkript is not a Kotlin API
jovial warren
you should try out Kotlin pig
astral quiver
KotlinBukkitAPI is
quiet depot
eh idk if I like kotlin
astral quiver
Bukkript is a script support for Bukkit
quiet depot
looks a bit like a clusterfuck at times, but maybe I’ve just been looking at bad kotlin code
jovial warren
it's got very strict nullability, really nice type inference, and extension functions that make your utility classes look like C code
like in Kotlin, running in to an NPE is very, very rare
quiet depot
I have a decent understanding of what kotlin offers
hot hull
Piggy, that's exactly what I said lmao
astral quiver
Is very neat, i guess we all recommend it
jovial warren
quiet depot
what did u say frosty?
I’ve said multiple statements in this convo, I’ve got no clue to which you’re referring
astral quiver
Do you folks know about the KotlinBukkitAPI-Tooling?
quiet depot
bardy I’ll learn it when I feel the urge
hot hull
why tf is it called bukkript
sounds like skript
jovial warren
bardy I’ll learn it when I feel the urge
cool
astral quiver
Bukkript = Bukkit Kotlin script
jovial warren
if you like less boilerplate code though, you'll love Kotlin
hot hull
I mean if you know java kotlin is pretty much self explanatory
jovial warren
^
quiet depot
how’d you guys start learning kotlin?
jovial warren
say goodbye to many problems like NPEs, wildcard generic horky borkyness, utility classes, getters and setters, and many more other things
astral quiver
Bukkript I start 2 years ago but Kotlin scripting API is not that good yet
jovial warren
I just read https://kotlinlang.org/docs/reference/
astral quiver
The first, I watch a talk
jovial warren
and also got babysat by one of my good friends for a while
astral quiver
But after that, the reference was the way to go
quiet depot
i don’t have any irl coder friends .-.
hot hull
Piggy, I got bullied into it, then I just experimented and became a professional in it (||Disclaimer: I no pro||)
jovial warren
@quiet depot neither do I, he's a friend I met online
quiet depot
o
jovial warren
his name's kacgal, he used to work at a hosting company
astral quiver
My girlfriend codes
quiet depot
what host?
jovial warren
some swedish company
quiet depot
was it an mc one?
prisma wave
how’d you guys start learning kotlin?
@quiet depot for me I just converted some Java code and played around with it
quiet depot
name seems similar to one of the skynode guys iirc
jovial warren
no, just a general hosting company
quiet depot
o
jovial warren
I'll ask him
prisma wave
If you know Java it's easy
jovial warren
^
astral quiver
In the future you will learn Coroutines and you will love it
jovial warren
paradigim shift?
quiet depot
cuz kotlin is more than oop bardy
jovial warren
yeah true
astral quiver
KotlinBukkitAPI uses Coroutines in the commands, is pretty neat
jovial warren
in Kotlin, you can kinda write anything anywhere
astral quiver
Classes is just one line
The meas you probably will not have a package just for exceptions
👀
jovial warren
like this for example: ```java
public class Main {
public static void main(String[] args) {
// do thingys
}
}
becomes kotlin
fun main() {
// do thingys
}
Kotlin have sealed classes that helps alot with function results
distant sun
let's see if it's happy with 2gb
jovial warren
args is optional for your main method
prisma wave
y'all just listing off every single feature rn
jovial warren
but if you want to specify it, you can do it like this: args: Array<String>
prisma wave
Might as well copy paste the docs
jovial warren
note that Kotlin doesn't have primitive types like Java, so int, double, long, float, char, short and byte (I think I named them all) become Int, Double, Long, Float, Char, Short and Byte respectively
prisma wave
I mean
It kinda does
The primitive wrappers will compile to primitives wherever possible
jovial warren
String[] becomes Array<String>
also, collections are interesting, as MutableCollection is a thing because Kotlin has the concept of collection immutability built-in
listOf("hello", "world") will give you a List<String>, which is immutable
whereas mutableListOf("hello", "world") will give you a MutableList<String>, which is mutable
there is no new keyword either
onyx loom
y'all just listing off every single feature rn
@prisma wave no, thats just bardy
old wyvern
😂
prisma wave
👀
jovial warren
sorry, I just get really excited when I see people wanting to learn Kotlin lol
prisma wave
Not even a multi to capitalise on
onyx loom
speaking of which
theres still quite a lot of unused multis
matt and some others can still spin
hot hull
@quiet depot You still haven't told me how you add a jar to a libs folder
quiet depot
?
you drop the jar in
and then do configuration name: "jar-name-without-extension" in gradle
configuration being implementation, compileOnly, etc
jovial warren
this is why one only uses thingys that are in remote repositories
hot hull
I will slap you Bardy
jovial warren
unless it is illegal to post them on public repos, like NMS, so you just use Maven Local
quiet depot
you should avoid maven local for public projects
nms is the only thing I can think of where maven local is acceptable
jovial warren
^ I agree
quiet depot
but for plugins without a repo, prefer a flatfile repository over mavenlocal
hot hull
What?
jovial warren
you did it with FrozenJoin
hot hull
Yes because Jitpack is a whore
jovial warren
FrozenJoin depends on FrozenActions, which is a publicly available project that wasn't published to a maven repo
yeah idk about JitPack
hot hull
And I don't plan on updating a maven repo every 5 minutes for small changes
quiet depot
not a fan of jitpack
jovial warren
Maven Central is even worse because apparently you gotta submit some shit on Sonatype's Jira
hot hull
If you wanna build the plugin, FrozenActions is available, 
jovial warren
I heard that was how you do it
heady birch
Haha I just figured out an issue I was having. Yesterday I saw new ArrayList<>(Arrays.asList(...)) and I was like. Huh. why did I write it like that?
jovial warren
what was the issue?
actually I can see
you could just collapse that in to Arrays.asList couldn't you?
prisma wave
Arrays.asList throws an exception on add()
heady birch
No because the list that returns is not modifiable
So yeah spring was removing something from the list and it didn't like it
quiet depot
ohhh bardy, sonatype is just one way to get ur stuff on central
apparently the easiest way though
foggy pond
When submitting a premium resource, do I need to wait for some kind of approval?
hot hull
Yes
foggy pond
How long does that take? I didn't submit it yet but just to know
jovial warren
submitting a premium resource lol
jovial warren
is it open-source? xD
hot hull
A couple of days, took a few days for me atleast
foggy pond
Alright damn I can't exactly set a release date for the plugin then
jovial warren
also I swear you need existing free plugins to submit a premium one
foggy pond
Yeah this is totally my first plugin on spigot 🙄
old wyvern
Premium takes like a week or two to get accepted
onyx loom
@hot hull what premium resource u got
old wyvern
Unless you are very lucky ofc
hot hull
I don't, it got rejected 😂
foggy pond
Whoa why
jovial warren
frosty doesn't have any premium resources
hot hull
"Not enough features" But yea it was hella bare bones
old wyvern
You dont existing plugins to post premium
old wyvern
There are other criteria based on forum posts
jovial warren
what were you trying to make premium?
old wyvern
You need like 20-25 forum likes or whatever I think
jovial warren
am I the only one here who's never submitted a resource or even made a thread on the Spigot forums?
old wyvern
Probably, yes
jovial warren
oof
jovial warren
maybe when I get Punishments ready I'll release that
onyx loom
ezblocks 😦
onyx loom
jovial warren
who's page will that go on though?
hot hull
clips
onyx loom
mine 
hot hull
Or make an EzBlocks github
jovial warren
if it stays on clip's that'll get us the most publicity and the most downloads
jovial warren
yeah but it's a team project is what I'm saying
onyx loom
were all randos, who cares whos page it goes on
jovial warren
alright it'll go on mine then xD
once I get my age changed lol
I was told by Benz to report my own account with details and I did, and I haven't got a response back yet
because my Spigot Forums age is still 1/1/1980 lol
hot hull
Ah yes more than two of your lifetimes 😂
jovial warren
I made my account when I was under 13 alright don't judge
and making a second account is against Spigot regulations
although according to GDPR, I must have access to remove my personal data from this site if I wish to do so
meaning I must have a delete button somewhere
onyx loom
u ever do some coding late at night then wake up the next day thinking wtf were u doing
heady birch
^ With spring this doesnt seem to happen. Wake up and your like, ah yes back to the beautiful code
onyx loom
cinder stag
hi, does this work as a global plugins channel?
hot hull
Latest?
hot hull
Wait I might have viarewind on
jovial warren
I got latest open
onyx loom
its fine
cinder stag
may i ask about a non-helpchat related plugin
hot hull
Yes, if it's plugin support #general-plugins tho
jovial warren
what server we joining? lol
foggy pond
I am remaking a PAPI expansion that I made some time ago, which I have lost the code for yikes
jovial warren
oof
foggy pond
I do not remember though, how I added the plugin the expansion is related to as a library
jovial warren
I wonder what's gonna happen to all the legacy expansions when PAPI 3 comes out
foggy pond
I do not have my plugin on any repository
jovial warren
100% sure about that?
onyx loom
i think legacy expansions will still work afaik
but itll be eventually phased out after a while id imagine
foggy pond
I am pretty sure
Nvm I had it on jitpack
But what if it is a premium resource, I don't want it to be open source bruVh
jovial warren
you can do what Glare does and still have it be premium but open-source it
we call that "Freemium"
foggy pond
I'm good
onyx loom
I don't want it to be open source bruVh
jovial warren
and Glare still makes money from it, and his plugins still get leaked even though it's open-source
foggy pond
Right I will also have to worry about leaks in the future
jovial warren
Freemium is the best way to go imo because it means that they pay for your support
jovial warren
and like 99% of the idiots who buy things on your store will have no idea about how to compile it from source anyway
prisma wave
Leaks are gonna happen whether you try to stop them or not
jovial warren
^
foggy pond
Yes but if it is open source it will happen way sooner than it would otherwise
jovial warren
not necessarily
it's less likely to get leaked I think, because it's available for free so what's the point in leaking it
onyx loom
people dont know how to compile 🤔
unless u have release tags on github, then theres 0 reason to leak a plugin lol
jovial warren
and open-source means that other developers can make their own forks and contribute to your plugin much more easily
meaning your plugin is more likely to be used on bigger servers, since they can work with it
foggy pond
Right
I have more specific questions about how leaking works but I cannot ask for help here otherwise I will get banned
Very dumb imo but can't do much about it
jovial warren
I don't think you can get banned for asking how leaking works
foggy pond
Uhh
jovial warren
you just get banned for promoting it
foggy pond
When it comes down to a certain site yes
jovial warren
you mean the one that prefixes Spigot with a word beginning with "b"?
foggy pond
Yeah don't even try saying that
Cause it is technically trying to go around the bot that prevents you from saying that
jovial warren
I know I'll get auto-muted, I've been muted before for it
basically, they decompile your code and remove any remenants of buyer checking and then redistribute it
if they're a site like DL, they'll replace that code with their own buyer checking to make sure that you can't leak their leaked shit
foggy pond
Yeah but I also heard that if you pay $$$ the leaking can be stopped or something, idk if it's true or not
I doubt I'd do it but still
jovial warren
I mean, if anyone comes to you for help with leaked shit, you just refuse them
onyx loom
oh yea i remember clip saying something like that
jovial warren
if they haven't bought your plugin you just don't give them any support
onyx loom
he got approached by BS / DL, he pays $$$ and they will remove any leaks from their site 
foggy pond
That's ridiculous
jovial warren
if they compile it from source you also don't give them support
foggy pond
How would I verify if someone purchased the plugin though?
Like what's the fastest way
prisma wave
there's the placeholder thingy
jovial warren
there's a buyers list
prisma wave
or a buyers list yea
jovial warren
I believe Spigot has a built-in buyers list
foggy pond
Oh on spigot?
Okay so I can just tell them to tell me who they are on spigot
And if they are on that list = they bought the plugin
jovial warren
yeah, you just ask them to give you their Spigot ID and you search your buyers list
or actually no
foggy pond
But there isn't any automated way of doing it I assume
jovial warren
@quick lava automates it using the Spigot API
foggy pond
Would suck if I was away and they bought the plugin, and they can't get assistance for a day or two
jovial warren
probably the one made by I can't remember what her name is
foggy pond
Yeah but I can't get barry on my server can I 😂 I'd have to make a discord bot myself
prisma wave
mvdw has an api for it i think
onyx loom
foggy pond
Who
foggy pond
Right right
jovial warren
Spiget
prisma wave
inventivetalent made spiget iirc
prisma wave
yeah not mvdw
onyx loom
inventivetalent seems to have made loads of these apis
obtuse gale
prisma wave
quite a lot
jovial warren
yeah she makes a lot of things
prisma wave
pretty sure she has the 2nd highest resource count
onyx loom
ya
prisma wave
https://github.com/Maximvdw/SpigotBuyerCheck @foggy pond
jovial warren
@obtuse gale you gotta wait for that to load in
prisma wave
bit outdated I think but might be worth a look
jovial warren
ah okay
jovial warren
yeah no one really cares about his shit anyway
jovial warren
haha
obtuse gale
Mongo Database
prisma wave
1 word
jovial warren
mongodb
prisma wave
like a class name
jovial warren
lol
prisma wave
da = da
jovial warren
lol
foggy pond
Mongo database
hot hull
Now that is comedy
foggy pond
It's not
prisma wave
high class comedy
foggy pond
Whoa
prisma wave
lol
jovial warren
Sondoga (deliberately spelt wrong) being a banned word is amazing
and MongoBatadase (also deliberately spelt wrong) is also comedy
quaint isle
Hi fellow gamers, what's the best way to implement player trails?
Do I just schedule a repeating task that repeats itself every 5 ticks or so, then use Player#getLocation() and World#spawnParticle() relative to the given location or is there a lighter way to implement this?
prisma wave
mongo is alright
jovial warren
it is the worst database management system ever created
prisma wave
@quaint isle that'll do
might be a bit faster if you use packets
but ofc that needs nms
astral quiver
Is allowed to use PDM in plugins that is sell?
jovial warren
NoSQL, uses JavaScript as a query language (JavaScript is bad enough as a programming language), really weird layout (no schemas, a single database)
astral quiver
Maybe add support to private repositories em PDM in the future 👀
prisma wave
private repos?
quaint isle
Oh boy I've never touched packets / nms. Would that make a huge difference regarding serverload?
ocean quartz
@astral quiver You might be able to and might not, depends on who reviews your plugin i think, since technically you can't have a plugin download dependencies on run for premium on spigot
astral quiver
Repositories that need credentials
jovial warren
wow sondoga's site is so bad that it's saying "We are aware of the problems Firefox users are experiencing at the moment. If possible, please use Google Chrome or Chromium Edge"
astral quiver
Oh
jovial warren
I'm like "I ain't switching to no shitty chrome just for your shitty site to work properly"
astral quiver
They will make Firefox folks angry
ocean quartz
It had firefox problems since launch, never fixed
prisma wave
@astral quiver make an issue if you want and I'll add it to the 1.0 project
jovial warren
is it really rocket science to make it work on Firefox?
astral quiver
😮
old wyvern
The major browsers should share a common style parsing
jovial warren
oof
astral quiver
You got time to review my PR
obtuse gale
so ive got a @PostConstruct thing but my current problem is if i autowire it into the class where JDA is made, it tries to get it before jda is built, giving me an unsatisfied dependency error, can I not autowire them in til jda has done its thing or?
astral quiver
is kinda bad code, I guess
old wyvern
Some dont have this, others dont have something else
astral quiver
but I don't know much about the Gradle Plugin API
jovial warren
@obtuse gale you're not trying to autowire a @PostConstruct method are you
jovial warren
I was gonna say lol
heady birch
That message has been there since I can remember. Also you mentioned the GDPR and right to erasure. Apparently (Sngda)'s database is not capable of that.
jovial warren
@PostConstruct is executed after dependency injection is done, you should know that because you read the documentation @obtuse gale
obtuse gale
the class is an @Service so it lets me autowire it in, but since that class depends on jda we need jda to finish first
astral quiver
obtuse gale
so whys it giving me a Unsatisfied dependency lol
astral quiver
It's work, okay? lol
prisma wave
merged :)
prisma wave
is that bad?
astral quiver
Nooo
prisma wave
alrighty lol
jovial warren
oof
prisma wave
hopefully it doesn't break anything :)
jovial warren
wait, my API's not gonna work with Java if it uses suspend functions is it
prisma wave
nope
jovial warren
@hot hull noice
shit
what can I do? the methods that are suspending are retrieve in my UserManager, which retrieves users from a database asynchronously
ocean quartz
Ayy I have done something cool, an IJ plugin that'll highlight certain words xD
jovial warren
Random.Default depending on use case can either be > or < ThreadLocalRandom.current() > Random()
ocean quartz
Just playing around with plugins to learn a bit
prisma wave
fair enough lol
astral quiver
(1..10).random() >>>>>
ocean quartz
Jesus bardy, it's literally just a test who cares about other randoms lol
jovial warren
creating new instances of Random = bad idea a mere most of the time
prisma wave
every single character should be a diff colour
onyx loom
Jesus bardy, it's literally just a test who cares about other randoms lol
prisma wave
@jovial warren we all know that
jovial warren
¯_(ツ)_/¯
heady birch
Generic random would be cool. Random<Integer> just feels kind of cool
Probably something rust would do to be honest
heady birch
<T> nextValue(final T lowerBound, final T upperBound) -> T
hot hull
Random<Player>(onlinePlayers)
heady birch
no
unreal briar
SplittableRandom is life
ocean quartz
onlinePlayers.random() cuz Kotlin
prisma wave
AbstractRandomFactory(RandomValueProvider(Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers())).random()
unreal briar
and you just add the nextValue, etc
prisma wave
@astral quiver 0.0.27 is out with both of your PRs 🙂
foggy pond
Any way to add a branch without doing **ctrl+shift+** or clicking the branches...` button?
When I do either of those two it does not do anything
Intellij is bugging out
silk kite
https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/452279708856614912/750114033952096296
This just looks like a horrible mutation between Python and Javascript
silk kite
uh.....
onyx loom
LOL
silk kite
well I tip my hats for you to creating your own language
silk kite
but still......
foggy pond
I literally cannot open source my plugin because IntelliJ is broken
prisma wave
i will admit the main influence for the function syntax was JS
but like
python?
not so much
silk kite
if n == 1 .. no brackets 🤮 🏃♂️
onyx loom
no brackets good
prisma wave
that's not exclusive to python
onyx loom
for little stuff
heady birch
Rust has no brackets 🙂 Rust is good language, Also I like the struct based stuff and extend keyword
silk kite
What sort of environment does it run in? Compiled or interpreted?
prisma wave
eventually it will be compiled
to either native or JVM bytecode, haven't decided yet
atm it's interpreted, but not much - the runtime stuff barely exists
quaint isle
@foggy pond Can't you just create the branch on github (or whatever repo you are using) and then check it out?
jovial warren
@prisma wave say I have a class that has two supertypes: another class and an interface, and both of those supertypes have a value with the same name but different return types, is there a way I can override only one of the values and not interfere with the other?
jovial warren
no it's a value
prisma wave
so a property?
jovial warren
yes
prisma wave
hmm
jovial warren
that's what I mean
prisma wave
that's gonna be difficult i think
not sure it's even possible
isn't the compiler throwing an error?
jovial warren
IJ is screaming at me
jovial warren
I'm making an API, and I want the API users to make use of the database entry's ID, but the class that implements that interface is PunishmentEntity, which also extends IntEntity
prisma wave
if a class and an interface have 2 things with effectively the same purpose then you're repeating yourself
jovial warren
I'm trying to make a database entity from exposed also implement the API's interface
unless I call the id in the API interface something different
or I just say fuck having access to the ID and be done with it
which kinda makes more sense, as you shouldn't be able to customise that
obtuse gale
anyone know my unsatisfied dependency problem lol
Basically in class A I have a constructor that depends on B, B requires a bean from A, but a new instance of B is being made before the bean is finished in A
hot hull
@onyx loom Do you have mc opened by any chance?
onyx loom
wow ur in luck!
hot hull
Join back, I'm slowly loosing my mind
hot hull
This fucking shit hurting my brain, actions work 100% when I test it inside the lib, yet just nothing happens when I try to use them in FJ
It'll legit be quicker if I put the lib back into FJ itself
If I copy files from a dir to another dir, will IJ recognize them, or will they shit itself?
onyx loom
?tryandsee
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FAQ Answer:
onyx loom
🌝
hot hull
Fair enough
heady birch
@obtuse gale Remove the circular dependency
heady birch
Easy way is to just add a setter for the one thats in a circle but its pretty wack way of fixing it
heady birch
@Autowired
public void setDep(Object o) {
....
}```one sec
@Service
class A @Autowired constructor(
private val b:B
){
@Bean
fun coolThing():C{
// Do stuff
return C
}
}
@Service
class B @Autowired constructor(
private val c:C
){
}``` this is my problemI was being dumb about github earlier @quaint isle my bad
I got my plugin as a dependency, and I got the repository too for it in my pom.xml
There is no errors in my pom.xml, or warnings
hot hull
hah Kali it worked
foggy pond
yet IntelliJ cannot see the the plugin I added as a dependency whatsoever
<dependency>
<groupId>com.github.klyser8</groupId>
<artifactId>Karma-Overload</artifactId>
<version>3.0.0</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>```No errors or warnings
Yet it's as if it does not exist
jovial warren
probably because it doesn't
and that may sound confusing, but are you sure it knows where to get the dependency from?
foggy pond
I gave it the repository
foggy pond
Okay now it throws an error, even tho it is not highlighted in the code
I did what it said to do here
Replaced the Tag with the plugin version
jovial warren
@foggy pond have you even looked at the releases tab for that?
go to the releases tab and click "get it"
foggy pond
Should I write that... as the version.?
jovial warren
that's how JitPack works, yes
foggy pond
wa
jovial warren
that's your commit ID I believe
prisma wave
@obtuse gale delete this
obtuse gale
hehe
jovial warren
though it's longer than a commit ID and contains invalid characters so may just be JitPack's wacky versioning
jovial warren
you're welcome by the way
foggy pond
Thank you ❤️
heady birch
Wonder what would be a decent way to introduce switchable UI's (not in the sense of basic CSS themes, but like a full UI rewrite) with thymeleaf, allowing the user to "use legacy theme" e.g If you get what I mean
ocean quartz
Actually messing with IJ's plugins is pretty cool
foggy pond
When submitting a premium resource, can I edit the resource's page while I am waiting for approval?
jovial warren
probably
hot hull
I think you can yes
jovial warren
@ocean quartz noice
hot hull
(But it's not visible to others)
prisma wave
@heady birch different template files and an URL parameter?
jovial warren
also am I the only one who puts abbreviations in capital letters in class names
heady birch
I used to be but recently stopped because apparently its still convention to follow lowerCamelCase even with abbrevations
hot hull
fuckin bullshit
ocean quartz
Convention is lowerCammelCase yeah, though it's fucking mess, if you type any you'll see all sorts of implementations
jovial warren
I put abbreviations in lower case for the lower part of that, but anywhere else, it's upper case
foggy pond
Okay good so I can edit the page n stuff while I am waiting for approval
jovial warren
lol
prisma wave
let handle-url = blah
hot hull
Frosty had never seen such bullshit before
prisma wave
let sql-query = blah
jovial warren
@prisma wave what about structs?
hot hull
Is that a virus I see Matt
ocean quartz
Oh
prisma wave
Probably upper case
jovial warren
I swear if this is a rick roll I'm gonna have you Matt
yeah like that
I prefer HTML over Html there
because HTML looks better
fax
ocean quartz
Discord is all fucky for me
prisma wave
Yea we haven't settled on a proper convention yet but it would probably be PascalCase with uppercase acronyms
ocean quartz
Still processing the video lmao
ocean quartz
The highlight visitor IJ has is awesome
You can see exactly how it works
if discord wants to send my damn image
omg
ocean quartz
Discord is having a stroke
jovial warren
yeah I can tell
onyx loom
a fat stroke
ocean quartz
Actually @frail glade can you do one of my multi spin now? ;p
static zealot
xD
ocean quartz
Nah, he was offline, still have 2 pending
jovial warren
why Glare? because he's the most likely to respond?
jovial warren
true
onyx loom
and clip aint gonna respond
jovial warren
and clip's probably at work
prisma wave
@everyone
loud gyroBOT
The 'everyone' mention is disabled so you can't annoy people.
prisma wave
Ex
frail glade
=multi spin
compact perchBOT
jovial warren
oof
ocean quartz
Because he's the Waffle King
onyx loom
ayyy
frail glade
POG CHAMP
prisma wave
Huge
onyx loom
9x 
jovial warren
11x xD
frail glade
Big brain plays.
prisma wave
Ofc it's the moment I leave the house
prisma wave
Damn sounds pretty cool
ocean quartz
Good chance for me to pass some people
jovial warren
jesus christ Discord must be getting DDoSed or something
or Barry's just having a fit too
ocean quartz
Gotta pass Mackenzie and Clip
ocean quartz
Why did you ping lol
prisma wave
so I hear elara is a multi paradigm language with a focus on functional programming??
Sounds pretty cool
hot hull
BM is gonna pass me :((
jovial warren
then chat more shit frosty
jovial warren
that's all that pretty much anyone with loads of XP does in here
onyx loom
frosty im gonna pass u too 😳
prisma wave
not if I have anything to say about it
ocean quartz
Is Aboo still alive?
lavish notch
@jovial warren Why'd you ping me?
ocean quartz
Frosty type away you're almost passing him
jovial warren
@lavish notch read up
onyx loom
@prisma wave ur gonna pass frosty, but i aint passing u :(
prisma wave
lavish notch
save me reading, give me summary
jovial warren
Matt just said he's gotta pass you while this x9 multiplier is on
ocean quartz
It's literally just because i said i was gonna pass you in rank
prisma wave
@hot hull give me your account details (and credit card details) and I'll get you to #1 :)
lavish notch
Oh...
hot hull
(and credit card details)
Ah yes
prisma wave
It's a good deal
lavish notch
Well... if barry is offline - you can't pass me
prisma wave
Trust me :)
ocean quartz
Is barry really dead, cuz that's pretty sad
hot hull
Nah discord is dying
jovial warren
@pallid gale Barry be slacking
onyx loom
just discord images and stuffs
ocean quartz
Idk if that'll affect the xp or not, but hope discord fixes himself fast
hot hull
API fucked as well probably
prisma wave
There was a cloudflare outage recently I think, could be part of that
hot hull
Also quick suggestion, don't make libs in kotlin, shit won't work -.-
prisma wave
make them in elara
ocean quartz
Yeah i know lol
Need about 20k xp
So pretty far
prisma wave
so good
onyx loom
prove me otherwise
jovial warren
@prisma wave I swear there hasn't been an outage in at least a month or so
prisma wave
no can do
jovial warren
the last outage was that big outage when like 13 datacentres went down due to a faulty router in Atlanta
lavish notch
Let me just slide clip like 50$, and he'll hook me up with some juicy xp
prisma wave
@jovial warren maybe not I just saw some thing on news a few days ago
Might have been really outdated idk
jovial warren
it's not clip who made Barry @lavish notch
ocean quartz
admin abuse
jovial warren
he likely won't though lol
prisma wave
I think they should rewrite Barry in elara
onyx loom
hes dont it before bardy 
prisma wave
And by they I mean me
onyx loom
i agree bm
ocean quartz
i'd do it for $50 why wouldn't he
jovial warren
they should rewrite Barry in Kotlin with Spring
ocean quartz
Barry is perfectly fine the way it is
prisma wave
Btw we are currently looking for someone to make :elaramoon:
onyx loom
lmao
prisma wave
If you are a talented graphics designer let us know
onyx loom
u need an elara logo first
prisma wave
That will be the logo
onyx loom
LOL
heady birch
Right what lib should I make and release?
onyx loom
elara lib
heady birch
Except an nms lib 😐
prisma wave
We can't pay but we can add your name to the documentation
jovial warren
I should make an NMS lib
prisma wave
You will get lots of exposure
btw we have the right to remove your name after a week
jovial warren
lol
heady birch
Lol. What would elara lib even do
onyx loom
sounds worth it to me
onyx loom
bukkit elara
jovial warren
I've always wanted to make built-in stuff for programming languages lol
prisma wave
we are also going to make Elara on Rails and Elango
jovial warren
lol
prisma wave
and Elara Boot
jovial warren
how do you make Elara code?
jovial warren
is it just written in string form?
prisma wave
It barely functions yet lol
jovial warren
shall I help you with that
prisma wave
You can do basic maths and that's about it
You can in a few days
We're gonna rewrite everything
jovial warren
we're gonna need a full compiler and runtime environment
prisma wave
- make a compiler
ocean quartz
Is Elara JVM?
prisma wave
not sure yet
jovial warren
it currently uses Kotlin, but I think it should compile to native
prisma wave
Might pull a Kotlin with different compiler backends
ocean quartz
That sounds nice yeah
onyx loom
have u used go before
jovial warren
I might design my own language
onyx loom
why would u need to do that when elara exists
its literally the perfect language obviously
prisma wave
A little bit
onyx loom
🌚
jovial warren
I've always thought of a language that can translate in to other languages using some sort of machine learning, meaning it's fully cross-compatible and interoperable
prisma wave
Go is easy to learn
ocean quartz
Only problem with Go is the weird symbols it uses
prisma wave
They're not that bad
Standard pointer syntax
Apart from walrus operator
Evil walrus
jovial warren
pointer syntax?
prisma wave
& and * iirc
prisma wave
Good image
heady birch
Just felt like prototyping a possible command layout
jovial warren
@CommandMapping?
ocean quartz
Does it require the @Required annotation everywhere?
prisma wave
gonna need aj's dropbox for this one
heady birch
only if the argument is required
jovial warren
wait are you remaking KiteBoard's command system?
heady birch
could always make it @Optional instead
ocean quartz
Might wanna make @Optional instead of required, because you'll have many more required than optional imo
obtuse gale
what
heady birch
no I don't plan to
jovial warren
okay
heady birch
What lib hasn't been made yet?
old wyvern
Elara lib
prisma wave
^
onyx loom
E
old wyvern
L
onyx loom
A
ocean quartz
Make a lib maker lib
old wyvern
R
jovial warren
main.sh literally contains java -jar Elara.jar lol
onyx loom
A
old wyvern
M
jovial warren
lol
@ocean quartz that might not actually be a bad idea
question is though: how would it work? what would it do?
old wyvern
Thats for replit functionality bard
ocean quartz
Also what is Elara's file extension going to be?
jovial warren
.el?
heady birch
.eee
prisma wave
Probably
old wyvern
Mhm
jovial warren
nah .el is already used
ocean quartz
how would it work? what would it do?
That's up to you to decide, i do the ideas only
jovial warren
^ fair enough
prisma wave
nah
.elis already used
@jovial warren I'm sure they won't mind
It's for a good cause after all
jovial warren
it's associated with Emacs
old wyvern
.elr maybe
ocean quartz
.ara
old wyvern
😂
ocean quartz
Ara ara
jovial warren
.elr yes that's a brilliant idea Yugi
actually that's an EPLAN Revised Project
just make it .elara lol
old wyvern
🤷♂️
prisma wave
pretty much every extension less than 4 characters is gonna be taken
ocean quartz
.ea
glad spear
Did I just see a multi spin
prisma wave
But who cares about the random file types from 1983
ocean quartz
Perhaps
glad spear
:)
old wyvern
EA?
onyx loom
missed alot of it tradie
heady birch
I think I over complicated my whole gradients thing. when does anyone actually want an HSB gradient? because you can make a rainbow with just RGB + multiple colours
ocean quartz
First and last letter Yugi xD
old wyvern
They woukd possibly sue us for no reason
onyx loom
ea sports
glad spear
Shit
onyx loom
its in the game
prisma wave
.elaraextension
jovial warren
@heady birch I wish I could come and work on KiteBoard lol
old wyvern
😂
onyx loom
no 🌝
ocean quartz
Still think .ara is the best
jovial warren
oof
old wyvern
Maybe .era
heady birch
Perhaps although it would probably need a seperate repo. Then I don't know how you can merge repos in future
ocean quartz
Reactions are the law
prisma wave
no
jovial warren
unless I just created a private fork or something idk
jovial warren
also @heady birch , I have that source code if you want it btw
prisma wave
They are scared about what we can do
jovial warren
though I doubt you want me sending the ZIP in here and I don't think you have DMs from server members on
prisma wave
Imagine people wanting to DM you
jovial warren
ikr
I mean, I offered to just put it on a private repo and give him access but he said he wanted a ZIP instead
glad spear
I NEED HELP can I dm you!!!
prisma wave
guys i need help with my plugin
@obtuse gale person can i come to your house and show you the erorr
heady birch
Can you merge a github repo that contains issues and wiki into another one that contains the actual source code
ocean quartz
I get some amazing DMs from this discord asking for help
glad spear
LOL
heady birch
So basically transfer wikis and issues into another REPO
ocean quartz
It's wonderful, 10/10 recommend
jovial warren
if you clone the code from both repos and push to one, maybe
you can add multiple remotes
though they have completely different commit history so idk
I could just do the Wiki manually if necessary
or you could just keep both
heady birch
I still have alot of changes to do before pushing the source
jovial warren
can I help? 🙂
I mean, not to use this as a "I did this for you now you do this for me" kinda thing, but I did spend from Thursday to Monday deobfuscating that plugin xD
I'd test doing this myself, but I don't own any repos with issues lol
ocean quartz
We all have issues 
jovial warren
I mean GitHub issues you silly goose
prisma wave
elara doesn't have issues
ocean quartz
yet
prisma wave
it came out the metaphorical womb perfect
old wyvern
