dev-general

[empty flint]

or maybe I'm flattening the wrong thing

So I have [[[a]], [[b],[c]], [[d],[e]]]

and I need [[a],[b],[c],[d],[e]]

[prisma wave]

List.flatten?

[ocean quartz]

@prisma wave If i wanted to multiline a function chain how would it work?

some-list 
  map add-1 
  filter is-even 
  forEach (it) => { 
    print it 
  }
```?

[prisma wave]

I think so

Afaik the parser won't care about whitespace

Well it shouldn't

[empty flint]

List.flatten?
@prisma wave yeah but it gives me [[a]], [[b],[c]], [[d],[e]]

[prisma wave]

It barely works right now lol

[ocean quartz]

Multiline looks a bit odd without parenthesis and dots
Pretty cool though

[prisma wave]

@empty flint so map that with flatten again

Yeah I like it

And you could always use the parentheses and dots

They're just optional

[old wyvern]

yea currently the infix chains are single lined

[prisma wave]

Ah ok

[ocean quartz]

Also why did you guys choose to go with let for variables?

[prisma wave]

reads more naturally imo

[old wyvern]

Also reads better than val and var which was the other choice

[errant geyser]

It looks cool, and its more englishy than other options

[ocean quartz]

As a non native English speaker it confuses me a bit more

[prisma wave]

Piggy was asking that too a while ago

Hm

Well Rust and JS use let too

[old wyvern]

Its also the "syntax" you would generally use in maths to assume variables

[prisma wave]

^

I think in general (maybe not in your case) it is easier to understand than val/var

[distant sun]

What do you guys use to find the cause of lag from a server, other than timings?
For some reason the server of my client die randomly.

[onyx loom]

shouldve used final String string = "string"

[prisma wave]

😳

@distant sun profiler

[ocean quartz]

I guess for me is that var could be easily translated to my language while let would.. definitely be interesting xD
Pretty cool anyways, good job on it ;p

[prisma wave]

Ty :)

[onyx loom]

yes gj

[prisma wave]

That makes sense

[onyx loom]

im proud of u

[distant sun]

Can you do that on a server?

[prisma wave]

Yes

[distant sun]

How

[prisma wave]

Although I will mention it doesn't actually work

Run the server though intellij @distant sun

[distant sun]

-.-

[empty flint]

@empty flint so map that with flatten again
@prisma wave Oh sorry I was wrong, so I actually get [[a],[bc],[de]]

[distant sun]

I cant lol

[onyx loom]

so when we gonna start circlejerking elara

[ocean quartz]

Use JProfiller

[prisma wave]

Like the parser and lexer works, you can make variables but nothing else

@onyx loom now

[errant geyser]

Yugi defo didnt carry the team for the parser Thank

Kali it already began

[onyx loom]

elara good kotlin bad 😳

[ocean quartz]

Yugi is a bless

[prisma wave]

[errant geyser]

^

[empty flint]

So flatten() is working from the inside-out and not from the outside in

[distant sun]

Use JProfiller
@ocean quartz still, doesnt the server have to run on my pc?

[ocean quartz]

You can run jprofiller in the server

i think

[empty flint]

How do I use the spread operator without passing it as varargs?

[prisma wave]

What

[distant sun]

Isnt jprofiller paid?

[empty flint]

Because I have [[a, b, c],[d, e, f]] and I need [a, b, c],[d, e, f] but flatten() gives me [a, b, c, d, e, f]

[ocean quartz]

I think there is a free version or trial not sure

[empty flint]

so if I could spread [[a, b, c],[d, e, f]] as if it was for a varargs value I'd get [a, b, c],[d, e, f]

[onyx loom]

someone made simp language https://repl.it/talk/challenge/SIMP-The-language/51585

nice

[prisma wave]

@empty flint isn't [a, b, c],[d, e, f] impossible to express in a single value?

that would be a tuple / Pair

[empty flint]

well it's actually an n-tuple

but it's all encapsulated by a list

it's complicated ^^

Basically I need to generate a list of lists, right

[errant geyser]

You want to unwrap a 2d array then?

[empty flint]

and the elements of list A (the lists) are generated by some objects I have in another list

so I have my List<Foo>

that has to map to List<List<String>>

and each Foo can generate an unknown number of List<String>s

So I thought I could encapsulate all the generated lists inside one list and get a List<List<List<String>>> and then just flatten it, but it flattens the inside list, not hte outside one

and I actually need to spread it

not flatten it

xD

[prisma wave]

uh

xy problem?

[empty flint]

Lemme get some pseudocode going so you understand better

[ocean quartz]

Sounds to me like you're overcomplicating what you want with all the nesting lists

[empty flint]

yes

[prisma wave]

^ seems like it

[empty flint]

help

[prisma wave]

that's also a lot of O(n) operations

bad

[onyx loom]

@prisma wave should u not include the elara github on the repl.it page?

[prisma wave]

could do

[onyx loom]

idk if its needed, but would be nice id say

[prisma wave]

just cba

it's currently in sync with the github

so it would have to reference itself i guess

idk

[empty flint]

Foos.map { foo ->
  ArrayList<List<String>>().apply {
    add(foo.primaryList)
    if(foo.hasMoreLists) {
      foo.moreLists.forEach { moreList -> 
        add(moreList)
      }
    }
  }
}

[prisma wave]

@onyx loom updated it

[onyx loom]

👍

[turbid ocean]

have guild plugin supported 1.16.2?

[prisma wave]

#guilds

😦

[distant sun]

Welp, time to learn how to read a profiller smh

[prisma wave]

they're pretty simple

most of the time

[distant sun]

Idk

Hopefully spark will help us

I dont mind learning more stuff about performances

[empty flint]

Ayyy I did it. I'm an idiot.

Can't map a list directly to something else. It maps all the elements

Foos.let {...} did the trick

ty for your attention

[prisma wave]

i am pretty sure there's a better way to do that

with fold or something

[jovial warren]

hey @heady birch how tf did you get this plugin to work when it creates loads of new instances of objects in the constructor that take the not yet initialised plugin as a parameter

[prisma wave]

it doesn't have to be initialized

it just could cause problems if it isn't

[jovial warren]

it does

basically, it initialises the storage manager, which initialises the YAML storage provider, which attempts to load a file in it's initialisation that requires plugin not to be null as it calls plugin.getDataFolder()

okay he doesn't actually

again just luyten being trash

[pastel imp]

yo matt

[distant sun]

yoyo

[ocean quartz]

I need someone's opinion
So I'll have a permission annotation and a requirement one (in a way it seems redundant)
The requirement will be global, and permission only on certain platforms
To abstract it well, i was thinking about treating a permission as a requirement, meaning when a command registers it will register a personal requirement for permission
Sounds like a good design or hacky?

And yo

[pastel imp]

hows the Intellij GUI viewer plugin going? (if you are doing it)

[ocean quartz]

Not working on it yet

[pastel imp]

YET

oof me be big hyped for it

lol

me gud gramar

[ocean quartz]

Cuz IntelliJ is funky with Javafx and swing sucks

[pastel imp]

that's facts

[errant geyser]

I also require the MF rewrite dad kthxbye

[versed ridge]

What's that?

IntelliJ GUI viewer

[pastel imp]

it's like a plugin

[ocean quartz]

His suggestion to make a plugin to view the GUI you're making in real time on a tab on IJ

[pastel imp]

^^

[jovial warren]

that could be useful

[pastel imp]

so you don't need to open minecraft

etc

ye very useful

my friend's bukkitkotlinapi has it

[jovial warren]

Bukkit Kotlin API?

[pastel imp]

unfortunatly only works for who's using the api

ye

or BUKKRIPT

as he also calls it

[jovial warren]

https://github.com/DevSrSouza/KotlinBukkitAPI this?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah

[jovial warren]

wow that actually looks pretty good

[pastel imp]

yes that

ye he's a good dev

[jovial warren]

and it uses kotlinx.serialization and coroutines

[pastel imp]

he's big dev

[prisma wave]

he also uses pdm :)

[pastel imp]

that's his hobby actually

he's a dev at a company

[jovial warren]

developing's my hobby too xD

[pastel imp]

not sure which

[ocean quartz]

Actually imma ping him something

[pastel imp]

what exactly lol?

I have direct contact with him so

[ocean quartz]

@astral quiver No plugin que voce fez para IJ, voce usou TornadoFx?
Eu tentei e falhei por completo xD

[pastel imp]

oh ye he's here

didn't even saw it

lol

[jovial warren]

I think it's google translate time lol (for me)

[pastel imp]

nha

Matt is portuguese too

xd

(actual fact almost no one knows)

ok now it makes sense

[jovial warren]

yeah I think I knew that

[ocean quartz]

I am a mix match of a mess

[pastel imp]

I only found out some weeks ago

xd

[jovial warren]

if it's on his GitHub page (which I just found it is) then yeah I knew it lol

[pastel imp]

I am a mix match of a mess
@ocean quartz same

[jovial warren]

I didn't remember it but I know it

[pastel imp]

I am half luxembourgish half portuguese

oof

and I speak 7 languages?!

[ocean quartz]

Half Brazilian, half Portuguese, engaged to an American

[pastel imp]

oof

[jovial warren]

I'm just English lol

[pastel imp]

welp that's actually cool

english?

british or american?

[jovial warren]

English, meaning the country within the United Kingdom, England

[pastel imp]

welp both are english

oof

[jovial warren]

nope

[pastel imp]

I did not know that fact

[jovial warren]

the US speaks English, but is not English

"English" means both the language and the place of origin

and in this context, I mean the place of origin

[pastel imp]

oof thx for the info

[astral quiver]

Oh

Hi

[pastel imp]

@ocean quartz ^^

[astral quiver]

Yes I did a IntelliJ plugin

[jovial warren]

not what he asked

he asked if you used TornadoFX

[astral quiver]

I do not actually, I really like it, but I do not use it

[pastel imp]

also @astral quiver ask the dev role in #role-request xd

[astral quiver]

I was hopping to Jetpack Compose join the JVM

[ocean quartz]

Oh okay, i tried using it but IJ didn't like it too much xD

[jovial warren]

TornadoFX is Kotlinified JavaFX isn't it

[astral quiver]

Actually, the Jetbrains is working on bring Jetpack Compose to Desktop

Yes, is a DSL for JavaFx

Is pretty cool

[jovial warren]

yeah I've seen it

and used it somewhat

[astral quiver]

but, Jetpack Compose is comming to Desktop already

and will be nice to use

[jovial warren]

what kinda Desktop?

[astral quiver]

JVM currently

but I guess Kotlin Native too

[jovial warren]

so it's cross-platform then

[astral quiver]

With the anoucement of Kotlin Multiplatform Mobile today

[jovial warren]

meaning I can use it on my Arch Linux system is what I'm getting at

[astral quiver]

maybe in the near future, Jetpack Compose works on iOS

[pastel imp]

souza LIVEEEEEE estou em depre

[astral quiver]

https://zeromod.in/posts/jetpack-compose-desktop/

[pastel imp]

wait jetpack works on IOS?

lol

[astral quiver]

Not yet

[pastel imp]

oh so they announced it will

[jovial warren]

what even is JetPack? lol

[astral quiver]

and I don't know if their is a port being build somewhere

[pastel imp]

any predictions ?

[jovial warren]

sorry, I don't do Android development

[astral quiver]

Jetpack Compose is the New UI framework for Android

Is like React, Flutter

[jovial warren]

ah okay

[astral quiver]

BUTTT, the part that is really nice too is that it is focus on Kotlin Multiplatform, not be supporting ALL PLATFORMS but, by working with the Multiplatform COMMON CODE

[pastel imp]

but wait so you use jetpack for the IJ plugin?

I am kinda confused rn

[astral quiver]

iOS is not implemented, but this does not mean that anyone could implement, because, the code is already their

Jetpack Compose, when is got better for Desktop we will be able to create IJ plugins with it as well

[pastel imp]

ye but which one are you currently using though?

[astral quiver]

About KotlinBukkitAPI and Bukkript, I'm working on it alot

I'm writing PDM PR to support more cases

[prisma wave]

Did someone say PDM

:)

[ocean quartz]

Oh no you summoned him

[pastel imp]

lol

everyone runs

[astral quiver]

PDM is really really really noice

[pastel imp]

So let me correct myself..

[ocean quartz]

It is known that he lurks in the dark until PDM, Elara, Clojure, or "Java bad" is mentioned

[pastel imp]

KBA is an api for kotlin

[astral quiver]

I'm working now on supporting submodules PDM

[pastel imp]

and Bukkript is an actual plugin like (the s word) but much much better using kotlin as language

correct?

[distant sun]

Elara bad

[prisma wave]

wow

Rude

[astral quiver]

Bukkript brings the Kotlin Scripting to Bukkit

Is a plugin that reads the scripts from a folder, compiles it and loads it

With it, their is IntelliJ support as well for the scripts

So you have the nice power of the IntelliJ when writing Kotlin

[pastel imp]

GUI viewer plugin

[astral quiver]

Yes, their is a GUI Viewer as well

[pastel imp]

the one thing I hate you for not doing it for java

[errant geyser]

Gaby

[pastel imp]

that's like the 1% I hate you

[errant geyser]

You have sinned

[pastel imp]

the other 99% is just love

[astral quiver]

Java bad

👀

[errant geyser]

He is a wise one

[pastel imp]

gets attacked by 31239 Java devs in here

[prisma wave]

yeah they just don't have the right to an opinion

[errant geyser]

Lmao

[pastel imp]

F

[errant geyser]

I actually audibly snorted at that one

[old wyvern]

Java bad

🙃

Elara good

[astral quiver]

https://twitter.com/DevSrSouza/status/1273453154068303873/photo/1

[pastel imp]

lol what?

[astral quiver]

This is what @pastel imp is talking about

[errant geyser]

Elara > everything

[astral quiver]

I guess I already share with you folks

[prisma wave]

Elara scripting API?!?1?1??!!

[pastel imp]

I am sharing everything in here burv xd

[errant geyser]

So many plans

[old wyvern]

Yess

Elara spigot hook time

[prisma wave]

Ez

[pastel imp]

btw @astral quiver if you want you can "advertise" the project in #showcase if ya want to get people's attention

xd

[errant geyser]

Are we having java interop?

[pastel imp]

wth is elara?

[old wyvern]

Check #showcase

[prisma wave]

Good language

[astral quiver]

Not yet

[errant geyser]

You have SINNED sir

Check showcase

[astral quiver]

I'm working on a big shift for the project

[prisma wave]

Depends if we're compiling to Java bytecode or something else

Interop from native would probably be difficult

[errant geyser]

I think we'd better compile to java bytecode

[pastel imp]

I'm working on a big shift for the project
@astral quiver am I NOT informed?

[prisma wave]

Probably a better idea

[old wyvern]

We could without compiling to bytecode 😂

[astral quiver]

I'm relocating all its APIs because that could have conflict with another Spigot plugin that uses Kotlin

[old wyvern]

I mean on jvm

Reflection

[prisma wave]

We'd also needs VM if we compiled to native

[old wyvern]

Odin style

[prisma wave]

Yeah but reflection bad

[astral quiver]

And I'm using PDM

so the JAR FILE will be small

[pastel imp]

I do not know wth pdm is but seems gud

[errant geyser]

PDM, the official MLM scheme of Help Chat

[prisma wave]

:)

[errant geyser]

™️

[old wyvern]

We can hopefully rig a good enough vm together

[pastel imp]

lol

[prisma wave]

VMs are effort though

wow

[pastel imp]

fail

[prisma wave]

Barry

[astral quiver]

PDM is the best gradle plugin ever

[prisma wave]

Free my man

[astral quiver]

!!!

[prisma wave]

Literal injustice

[errant geyser]

Rude Barry

[old wyvern]

I mean we have all the time in the world technically

[prisma wave]

True

[errant geyser]

True

Technically we have 3x that

[pastel imp]

what does pdm do exactly?

in which cases is it used?

[errant geyser]

With 3 people

[prisma wave]

Magic

[astral quiver]

Exacly

Magic

[errant geyser]

Big brain stuff

[prisma wave]

Runtime dependency downloading

[old wyvern]

Runtime depedency downloading

[astral quiver]

With MAGIC

[prisma wave]

[quiet depot]

the heck is an mlm scheme

[astral quiver]

You just put the dependency and its downloads

[old wyvern]

Multi level marketing

[prisma wave]

Pyramid scheme

[errant geyser]

Multi level marketing, pyramid scheme

[quiet depot]

o

[pastel imp]

so as you said.. makes the jar file "smaller"?

[prisma wave]

yes

With magic

[pastel imp]

but magic needs fuel?!

[astral quiver]

PDM next level -> change the JavaPlugin to insert the loader 👀

[old wyvern]

Shrink ray

[errant geyser]

U got relocation done yet BM

[prisma wave]

It also features NO relocation and compliance with spigot resource guidelines

[astral quiver]

when you put ASM at the project, we can do that

[prisma wave]

😬

[old wyvern]

😂

[astral quiver]

Just for checking in

[prisma wave]

I'm scared of relocation

[errant geyser]

F

[prisma wave]

Just kinda ignoring it for now

[astral quiver]

I can publish plugins with PDM, right?

[quiet depot]

fr just use lucko’s lib bm

[astral quiver]

If not, I will have a fucking talk with MD5

[quiet depot]

he literally has a lib just for relocating jars at runtime

[prisma wave]

Probably will

[errant geyser]

LP is a complicated boi

[astral quiver]

Maybe is not the best choose

[prisma wave]

Would be nice to have everything in-house tho

[astral quiver]

and ASM is so hard

to relocate, no

[errant geyser]

Convert his code to kotlin and clean it up

Ez

[astral quiver]

To do magic stuffs......

[prisma wave]

@astral quiver there's a bit of ambiguity. I think you should be able to publish them but ashu's got rejected so...

Pretty sure it fits within the rules just fine

[astral quiver]

Okay, tkx

I will publish KotlinBukkitAPI

I will also write a post about it

[old wyvern]

Issue is only woth premium plugins

[astral quiver]

I a big library, I have so many things to say about it

[old wyvern]

They state rhat the plugins should work staright off without internet connection

[astral quiver]

But I will focus in the IntelliJ plugin

[prisma wave]

Hmm

[astral quiver]

because it is the only one that haves 👀

[old wyvern]

God I cant type agaon

[prisma wave]

Don't some premium plugins do dependency downloading though?

[pastel imp]

which should work with default GUI making

[old wyvern]

Dont think so km

[pastel imp]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1273453154068303873

Gabriel Souza (@DevSrSouza)

Currently, I'm working on a IntelliJ plugin to improve productive when creating new custom Menus for Minecraft Server using my library KotlinBukkitAPI and this was the result so far. https://t.co/OpL0Q8hky6

▶ Play video

Twitter

this thing is just

GUD

I WANT IT

[astral quiver]

How you can send images here

and I don't?

:c

[pastel imp]

me big boi

[astral quiver]

really sad

[pastel imp]

me big tier 2

[prisma wave]

?imgur

[compact perch]

FAQ Answer:

You won't be able to upload images here directly to avoid spam, so please use https://imgur.com/ to upload images/screenshots.

Requested by: Brister Mitten • imgur

[astral quiver]

oh

nice

[pastel imp]

I just know that...

I want it

lol

no

just the link

lol

ye

welp

let me help you

https://imgur.com/exlwVUs

[astral quiver]

tkx

[pastel imp]

you gotta be active to get tier 2 boi

xd

[prisma wave]

How is a Bukkript script different to a normal kotlin script?

[astral quiver]

The Hotreload stuff makes me pretty satisfying

From main.kts ?

Is build with the Kotlin Scripting API

focus on Bukkit

Bukkit Imports, plugins that you have on your folder is put in the Classpath and you can use it

[prisma wave]

Ah I see

[pastel imp]

also... big difference

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/173639611648573441/741113360355033210/unknown.png

[quiet depot]

voteparty does dependency downloading

but it gets a free pass

[pastel imp]

(SORRY for the s word 😭 )

[quiet depot]

cuz the functionality of the plugin already depends on internet access

[astral quiver]

Also, you can use NMS in it as well

The project find your SERVER JAR in your server as well

[pastel imp]

THAT I didn't knew

[astral quiver]

And all of it works in the IntelliJ

[prisma wave]

@quiet depot weird, since Ashu's is the same but got rejected

Is that an arrangement with spigot staff?

[quiet depot]

no but

[astral quiver]

Currently I'm working on a Project Wizard for KotlinBukkitAPI

[quiet depot]

gian might have accepted it for us

i can’t remember if he was still staff then

[astral quiver]

and have a better icons for the Bukkript script in the IntelliJ

Let me get some screenshots

[pastel imp]

wdym

Kotlin logo inside a bucket is already a gud icon

[astral quiver]

Not that

[pastel imp]

you mean the script icon?

[astral quiver]

No

I sec

[pastel imp]

oks

I am almost tier 3 hehe

[astral quiver]

Hope one day, KotlinBukkitAPI helps developers in a way that PDM does

[static zealot]

yo so with PDM instead of implementation I use pdm ?

[astral quiver]

Yes

[pastel imp]

that's not confusing at all

[wheat plume]

why using skripts

when you can learn java

[astral quiver]

why using skripts

[wheat plume]

and maybe get a job in future :>

[astral quiver]

when you can use Bukkript?

[wheat plume]

heard that first time

[astral quiver]

Hope you heard that more times

[wheat plume]

at least it is in kotlin

[ocean quartz]

@quiet depot Thoughts?
https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/695431668944732270/750128522139271269

[astral quiver]

@pastel imp

[pastel imp]

https://i.imgur.com/UHKrb6v.png

got'ya

https://i.imgur.com/XsLEL1G.png

[astral quiver]

Tkx, you are a good friend

[pastel imp]

nha I am just a big fan

[quiet depot]

that seems perfectly fine @ocean quartz, having permissions as requirements

[pastel imp]

oof

but thx

xd

still waiting for livestream though

[ocean quartz]

Nice, that'll make it much simpler to implement

[astral quiver]

That was the icons that I was talking about

[pastel imp]

those are the plugins it supports?

[astral quiver]

For you find Bukkript folder faster

No

Bukkript supports every simple plugin that exists

I do not have a plugin supoort stuff, the Bukkript just work with

You can write your on plugin and you will be able to use their API in Bukkript

[quiet depot]

@ocean quartz out of curiosity, how do you plan to implement requirements via annotation?

considering they can’t store things like consumers

[pastel imp]

@ocean quartz out of curiosity, how do you plan to implement requirements via annotation?
@quiet depot assuming it's for his command framework?

[quiet depot]

that’s one of the reasons I dislike annotations, they’re too limited

[pastel imp]

You can write your on plugin and you will be able to use their API in Bukkript
@astral quiver understood so it's just like a "spigot"

but actually not

welp

hard to explain

[astral quiver]

Yes, Kotlin DSL help me alot

[pastel imp]

welp never rlly used kotlin

[ocean quartz]

@quiet depot My current idea is just to do the same i do in the JDA implementation
Which is the same way i do the messages and completions
With String IDs like @Requrement("#requirement-id")

[pastel imp]

besides for gradle

as I use build.gradle.kts

[quiet depot]

why

groovy is perfectly sufficient

[pastel imp]

kinda started like that

and now I always do it

idk why

¯_(ツ)_/¯

anyways

[astral quiver]

So folks, good development for every one, I will do my own

Just to know

[wheat plume]

Groovy better

[astral quiver]

do you folks know Kord?

[pastel imp]

@quiet depot My current idea is just to do the same i do in the JDA implementation
Which is the same way i do the messages and completions
With String IDs like @Requrement("#requirement-id")
@ocean quartz but then you would need to set the requirement id to an requirement somewhere nha?

where would it be?

[quiet depot]

sounds like something sxtanna would make/made (kord)

[astral quiver]

https://github.com/kordlib/kord

[pastel imp]

that's actually interesting

[prisma wave]

Welcome... to the korm fields...?

😔

[ocean quartz]

@pastel imp Same way as the messages/completions, on enable or something like that you register it
commandManager.registerRequirement("#id", sender -> sender.doesSomething)

[pastel imp]

hmm wouldn't that be a pain in the ass?

[quiet depot]

i don’t like that separation

[pastel imp]

ye

same

couldn't you do something like @Requirement("hasPermission:PERM")

idk

[ocean quartz]

Yeah it's pretty annoying but, there isn't many ways around it when working with annotations

[quiet depot]

that’s also undoubtedly disgusting, but I’d prefer that over the alternative

[pastel imp]

ye also don't rlly like it much

[quiet depot]

matt this is why you don’t use annotations like this

[pastel imp]

but hey... it's better than the other way

matt this is why you don’t use annotations like this
@quiet depot I mean I like how he uses annotations for the MF

makes things "easier" to understand

in MY personal opinion

[quiet depot]

I’m not a fan of annotations in general

[static zealot]

latest v of PDM is 0.0.25? Can't find it anywhere

[astral quiver]

0.0.26

[static zealot]

oh nvm

yeah just saw it xD

I'm legally blind

:))

[pastel imp]

you got a certificate for that blitz?

[astral quiver]

hopefully, I a finish my lastest PR, will be 0.0.27

👀

[ocean quartz]

Yeah i know, but other implementations of commands i've seen always were pretty annoying compared to annotations
So that's why i went with it
If i can think of something better I'll do it though
Still idea storming

[pastel imp]

@quiet depot actually curious.. how would you do.. without annotations...?

[prisma wave]

@astral quiver yeah I'll update when you're done :)

[static zealot]

another thing. if I use pdm do I need to relocate ?

[quiet depot]

for a command framework, I much prefer the more traditional route of just passing the command name via the super, and having an execute method with the sender, and arguments

[astral quiver]

Tkx alot 😄

[prisma wave]

@static zealot we don't talk about that

Atm relocation isn't supported

[pastel imp]

doesn't seem that "clean"?!

[astral quiver]

Do you folks have permission to send emote from another server?

[prisma wave]

Which hasn't caused any major problems yet

[static zealot]

so I don't relocate anymore?

[prisma wave]

I plan to add it soon

[quiet depot]

it seems perfectly clean to me afonso

[prisma wave]

No need anymore

[pastel imp]

test it? souza

[astral quiver]

I'm working on a PR that will make relocation easy

[prisma wave]

When it does get added, it will be something that pdm supports automatically

[static zealot]

kk that's why I asked. wasn't sure if its still needed

[prisma wave]

Rather than a per-plugin thing

[astral quiver]

if you have a private repository

that is my case

[static zealot]

ah

[pastel imp]

it seems perfectly clean to me afonso
@quiet depot welp that's in the eyes of an experienced dev

xd

[prisma wave]

@astral quiver how does it make relocation easy?

[pastel imp]

by clean I also mean easy to understand and less "lines"

[astral quiver]

For me, I can have a module that will be published relocated

and use PDM to download it

[prisma wave]

ah yeah

Although

Isn't that not really relocation?

[astral quiver]

Isn't

[quiet depot]

public final class TestCommand extends Command {
    public TestCommand() {
        super("test");
    }

    @Override
    public boolean execute(@NotNull final CommandSender sender, @NotNull final String[] args) {
        sender.sendMessage("hi");
    }
}```

[astral quiver]

Currently I'm working on submodules PDM resolver

[quiet depot]

idk what the alternative is for mf

but that seems perfectly clean to me

[prisma wave]

Alrighty

[astral quiver]

If you have to build a module, that depends from another module that has PDM

[quiet depot]

@pastel imp

[astral quiver]

it will get the PDM declarations

[prisma wave]

Very nice

[pastel imp]

hmm welpwith an

with annotations you can reduce that to 3 lines? oof

without counting public final class TestCommand extends Command {

[quiet depot]

does it require registration somewhere else though?

[pastel imp]

yes?

[quiet depot]

so 4 lines, and separation

[pastel imp]

but atleast you can do cmd, cmd2, cmd 3

you can register everything with one line

[quiet depot]

that’s not a benefit, that’s encouraging you to violate the single responsibility principle

[pastel imp]

true

which is somewhat good?

[quiet depot]

no that’s bad

you should always strive to follow the principle

[pastel imp]

but what's the real difference then?

[prisma wave]

I mean, arguably having requirements in the same class as the actual execution is an SRP violation

[quiet depot]

well bm, if the class is merely a command class, I think anything relating to that command, can be in that class

[static zealot]

* Exception is:
org.gradle.api.plugins.UnknownPluginException: Plugin [id: 'me.bristermitten.pdm', version: '0.0.26'] was not found in any of the following sources:

- Gradle Core Plugins (plugin is not in 'org.gradle' namespace)
- Plugin Repositories (could not resolve plugin artifact 'me.bristermitten.pdm:me.bristermitten.pdm.gradle.plugin:0.0.26')
  Searched in the following repositories:
    Gradle Central Plugin Repository``` something did not go right xD

[prisma wave]

yeah I agree

But there's always a degree of ambiguity

@static zealot Buildscript ?

[ocean quartz]

@pastel imp The difference in the two methods is not the command registration itself, but the components of it
For example both needs the command to be registered, either through command map or what
But the big difference is while one handles the requirements etc in itself, the other requires it to be registered elsewhere

[pastel imp]

oooh

makes sense

[quiet depot]

just as a key note, registration of my commands is handled automatically via a form of classpath scanning

I assume the same can’t be done for mf by default, as the command class doesn’t store it’s own command? What I mean by that, is it’s registered like getCommand(“test”).setExecutor(new MFTestCommand());

that is bukkit api ^ but in the context pretend it’s mf api

[pastel imp]

commandManager.register(new CommandHat(configManager));

[quiet depot]

so “test” isn’t stored in mftestcommand, but “test” is stored in my testcommand, so registration can be automated

or am I wrong?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah, i'd need to be done like commandManager.register(new MfTestCommand())
I could make it be registered from classpath, but that'd remove the dependencies stuff
Unless used Guice or something like that for dependency injection

[quiet depot]

wait so then how does mf know to make mftestcommand respond to “test”?

[pastel imp]

ye that's another thing...

[static zealot]

what BM? you want my build.gradle?

[pastel imp]

dependency injection

[prisma wave]

@static zealot yep

[static zealot]

https://paste.helpch.at/avayuboqeq.cs

[astral quiver]

@prisma wave you Implement the all the maven logic your self?

[static zealot]

here you go

[astral quiver]

like Snapshot Artifact

Read POM

Because if I know, when is snapshot, the Jar is located in the name-version-date

Pretty cool

[ocean quartz]

When the command is registered an instance of bukkit's Command is created and registered in the command map, this will handle all the commands stuff with the normal onCommand(CommandSender sender ..), once the command typed is the one registered or subcommand it'll invoke the method from the stored mf command

[quiet depot]

I think I’ve just got a fundamental misunderstanding of mf

[ocean quartz]

In a way it's more like a wrapper

[prisma wave]

@static zealot you got anything special in your settings.gradle?

[static zealot]

never changed it

[prisma wave]

@astral quiver yeah, all that is handled in common-lib

[static zealot]

rootProject.name = 'WorldTeleport'

[prisma wave]

I'll probably repurpose it to a general maven library

Weird

@astral quiver does 0.0.26 work for you?

[static zealot]

1 sec am doing it again

build successfull

[prisma wave]

Oh

Weird lol

[static zealot]

I mean I kinda know what it was. well what it said it was. no idea what it means :)))

[astral quiver]

Yes

What is the version of you Gradle?

[static zealot]

7.0

something to do with offline mode?

or online mode?

[prisma wave]

👀

Wait

Does it work or not

[static zealot]

it recommended me to turn it on for PAPI as well, did it and now everything is back to normal

yeah it does

[prisma wave]

ah ok

[static zealot]

I'm just saying that's what it "recommended" just click accept or whatever and it works xD

[prisma wave]

yeah offline mode won't query any repositories

It'll just look at the cache

[static zealot]

no idea when I turned on offline mode. does it automatically turn on if your internet stops working or something ?

[prisma wave]

idk

Never had a use for it

Maybe

[static zealot]

yeah I moved and I was without internet for a day and I just did some random things in IIJ. probably I pressed or did something then

[prisma wave]

Ah makes sense

All working now?

[static zealot]

yep yep

[prisma wave]

Awesome

[static zealot]

yep. ty ty

[astral quiver]

that's it: https://github.com/knightzmc/pdm/pull/20

Hope you do not hate my big code

with fold, filter, and stuffs

👀

[static zealot]

btw this is all I have to do on plugin enable right? kotlin val dependencyManager = PDMBuilder(this).build() dependencyManager.loadAllDependencies()

[astral quiver]

no

[static zealot]

huh?

[astral quiver]

use loadAllDependencies().join()

because loadAllDependencies will return a CompletetableFuture

[prisma wave]

^

Nice PR btw, will have a look in the morning as it's night here and I'm on mobile

[astral quiver]

No problem, glad I can help

with join() will block until download the PDM downloads and loads everything to you use

[prisma wave]

Appreciate all your contributions :)

[astral quiver]

: )

[tight ginkgo]

help guys

my plugin dont start 😦

https://pastebin.com/t4gjnapR

[prisma wave]

#development

And also

Send the error

[tight ginkgo]

sorry!

[astral quiver]

I have a crazy idea for PDM, insert the new PDMBuilder(this).build().loadAllDependencies().join() on the top of the Plugin onLoad

using ASM

👀

Crazy idea

[prisma wave]

👀

Johnny was doing something similar I think

[astral quiver]

Oh nice

[prisma wave]

He did it with the class so dependencies were loaded before plugin initialisation

[astral quiver]

The NMS project?

Your he is doing for PDM?

[prisma wave]

For pdm

I'm not sure why he needed it tbh

But he was using the class in onLoad

[pastel imp]

oof some people be like: flexing IJ Ultimate

[onyx loom]

🌝

[static zealot]

ugh do I still use gradle shadowJar to build the jar? when using pdm

[onyx loom]

no

[static zealot]

gradle pdm ?

[onyx loom]

jar.dependsOn project.tasks.getByName('pdm')

put this in ur build.gradle

[static zealot]

yep got it

[onyx loom]

then just gradle build

[static zealot]

ah ok. ty ty

welp I messed something up

[prisma wave]

Error?

[static zealot]

https://paste.helpch.at/kahiguyixe.cs

on it xD

[prisma wave]

Ah yes

that one

Send your main class

[static zealot]

1 sec

before I do this please do not laugh at how ugly it is. I already know 😦 https://paste.helpch.at/umebohiniq.cpp

[prisma wave]

You gotta do PDM loading first

[static zealot]

oh

[astral quiver]

I still use shadowJar because I relocate the dependencies using it

[prisma wave]

Also if you're using kotlin you need 1 of the Intrinsics workarounds

Eg the Elvis operator / !! / Doing everything in 1 line

[static zealot]

wait so first in onEnable or just at the beginning of the class ?

[astral quiver]

I recommmend you add it at the onLoad

[onyx loom]

onLoad and doing it on 1 line works for me

[astral quiver]

or in the no args constructor

works for me as well

[static zealot]

        val dependencyManager = PDMBuilder(this).build()
        val onLoad = dependencyManager.loadAllDependencies().join()!!``` ?

[astral quiver]

you do not need this

I use like this:

public MyPlugin() {
  PluginDependencyManager dependencyManager = PDMBuilder(this).build()
  dependencyManager.loadAllDependencies().join()
}

or you can add to the first thing in your onLoad

[prisma wave]

@static zealot use !! on build(), otherwise Kotlin will try and null check it

[static zealot]

ohh

but it tells me its unnecessary xD I'm rly confused rn.

[prisma wave]

yeah it will say that

Basically kotlin tries to null check things, even if it's unnecessary

And the null checks use a class that doesn't exist yet

The easiest workaround is to do everything in 1 line

[hot hull]

Good morning Niall

[heady birch]

@jovial warren mainly for future changes. so if I added a new capability the previous ones would already have it, and id have to change them

as for your second question i've only just thought about that. It seems to work for now at least... i can probably move it all to on enable if any issues happen

[empty flint]

i am pretty sure there's a better way to do that
@prisma wave As always, you were right. I completely forgot that fold was a thing

[empty flint]

What should I call my IntelliJ plugin? I'm thinking "MineCode" or something

[obtuse gale]

zwhats it do

[empty flint]

Starts a mc server to test the plugins you develop in IJ with directly in IJ

and enables hotswapping

[obtuse gale]

oo fancy... ive been doing that manually up til now...

[empty flint]

me too 😛

That's why I wanna make a plugin

Sooo

MineCode?

[distant sun]

from this report, is the lag source PrisonMines? https://spark.lucko.me/#FQGisFH5nZ @prisma wave

[errant geyser]

@empty flint sounds good

[obtuse gale]

why are spring beans so inconsistent lol....

Like 50% of the time I turn my bot on it registers the listeners and the other 50% it just does nothing

[hot hull]

Baked beans

[obtuse gale]

ha ha very funny ex dee

[obtuse gale]

bruh im literally sitting here restarting my bot until it decides to register the listeners

[hot hull]

@quiet depot How would you approach dynamic listener registration (ie. a user specifies PlayerJoinEvent to be registered, then it'd do some magic and register that listener which would fire a Frozen equivalent of that event), doable or nah?

[prisma wave]

Class generation

[hot hull]

Further elaboration is required

I have a sm0l brain

[prisma wave]

it's probably an incredibly bad idea

[quiet depot]

wat

[prisma wave]

But you could use something like cglib to dynamically generate classes that wrap the event or whatever

Not real sure what you're asking tbh

[hot hull]

Well I can't think of anything else other than legit just having a boolean on each to see if it get's registered

[quiet depot]

cglib is old and shouldn’t be used

[prisma wave]

Doesn't guice use it?

[quiet depot]

consider something modern like bytebuddy

[prisma wave]

Oh no bytebuddy*

Yea

[quiet depot]

guice maintains their own ver iirc

of cglib

so they get a free pass

also guice is old stuff

probs made before bytebuddy was a thing

anyway no, don’t use code generation for this

while kinda iffy, I’d honestly just have an eventhandler for every event you wish to support

that may be an issue to support across versions tho

so maybe a dynamic solution (such as code gen) would be preferred

if you go that route, I wouldn’t generate event classes like bm suggested, I’d add some code to call your own event handler when any event is run; a single place

that way code gen is only done once, at startup, and it’s as little as possible

[hot hull]

I'll read more about it, I'm just experimenting right now so wanna try obscene things

[empty flint]

Soooo

[obtuse gale]

sooo

What should I do if something doesnt exist in the config for a plugin?

[empty flint]

Aparently BuildTools won't run properly if it can't print its output

lol

[hot hull]

If it's a message, return something like this AJ

"Object key '$key' has not been found within 'messages.yml'!"

[jovial warren]

I wish Java had templates lol

[hot hull]

Thoughts?

class FrozenJoinListener(private val registration: ListenerRegistration) : ActionListener {

    @Subscribe
    fun onEvent(event: FrozenJoinEvent) {
        println("Executed @${event.eventName}")
        
        registration.responseRegistration.call(
                ActionResponse(
                        event.player,
                        null
                )
        )
    }

}

(null cause I haven't set it up yet)

[steel heart]

Why have your own event listener though

I mean use the system from Bukkit?

[hot hull]

it's for bungee and spigot

That's all through an event bus

[steel heart]

So like a proxy-backend server event

Or smtng

[hot hull]

ish yea

It's all ugly af right now cause you I'm big brain and will probs do multiple iterations before I settle on something

[steel heart]

Lol

[leaden plank]

How can I return from a task(using Aikar's TaskChain) so it returns from a method?

 Location groundLevel(Location loc)
    {
        return Tutplugin.newChain().async(() ->
        {
            for (int i = 0; i < 1000000; i++)
            {
                Tutplugin.newSharedChain("groundLevel").async(() ->
                {
                    Material block = loc.getBlock().getType();

                    if (block == Material.AIR)
                    {
                        loc.subtract(0, 1, 0);
                    }
                    else if (block == Material.GRASS_BLOCK)
                    {
                        return loc;
                    }


                }).execute();
                
            }

        }).execute();
    }```

[hot hull]

lol, IJ

_root_ide_package_.com.github.frcsty.load.Loader

[jovial warren]

oof

[obtuse gale]

why my bean not happening

[jovial warren]

because you are one

[astral quiver]

Everyone is using Kotlin here, this is very nice

[jovial warren]

yeah

Kotlin > Java

[astral quiver]

Always

[obtuse gale]

because you are one
😦

My command registration bean happens but my listener registration doesnt

[heady birch]

Whats wrong with the beans?

[obtuse gale]

broke

[heady birch]

Show where you define each bean

[obtuse gale]

@Service
class ListenerRegister @Autowired constructor(
    private val attachment: Attachment,
    // A shit ton more
    private val jda: JDA
) {
    @Bean
    fun listeners() {
        println("Registering listeners")
        jda.addEventListener(attachment)
        // A shit ton more
    }
}```

[jovial warren]

@Autowired constructor is redundant btw

[obtuse gale]

wait really

[jovial warren]

yeah

what does listeners() return?

[obtuse gale]

er

nothing

does it need to return something?

[heady birch]

🤦‍♂️

[jovial warren]

@Beans are used for defining things that return things, to be dependency injected

[obtuse gale]

ive got other beans that work that dont return anything lol

[jovial warren]

use @PostConstruct to make that method run when the @Service is being constructed

[obtuse gale]

so what should i return lol

ah ok

[heady birch]

Beans are meant to return something

Yeah what bardy said is better

[obtuse gale]

when do services get constructed/

Like will it be before jda is instansiated

[heady birch]

Also i'm not sure, but is @Configuration required specifically for registering beans?

[jovial warren]

^ no

I use @Component to register beans

[prisma wave]

Elara > Kotlin

[heady birch]

Awesome then its the same as Service, just for clean I guess

[hot hull]

GCode > Elara

[prisma wave]

😕

[astral quiver]

Spring and JDA 👀

[jovial warren]

@prisma wave I had a look at Elara last night, and tbh, it's actually not that bad

[prisma wave]

indeed

It's very good

I am pro language designer

[astral quiver]

Spring is in everything

[jovial warren]

you're not a pro compiler designer though

[prisma wave]

Not yet

We're doing a full rewrite and making a compiler in Go

so I will be soon

[heady birch]

Lol you could literally use rust

[astral quiver]

But is more build your own

[jovial warren]

@prisma wave make your compiler in C++ so it runs really fast

[quiet depot]

no

[astral quiver]

Rust >>>

[quiet depot]

you make your compiler in the language you’re making

[jovial warren]

or Rust yeah

yeah make the Runtime environment in Rust then

[prisma wave]

Go is fast

[quiet depot]

how fast is elara?

[prisma wave]

N/A

[quiet depot]

well

[prisma wave]

The evaluator barely exists lol

It's just a Lexer and parser rn

[astral quiver]

Lol

[quiet depot]

imo you should make your elara compiler, in elara

[prisma wave]

We will eventually

But you have to write one in something else first

it's like the chicken and the egg

[quiet depot]

ye, go is fine for the initial

[onyx loom]

will u carry on elara even if u dont win

[prisma wave]

Go is a good choice I think

Yeah

[onyx loom]

exciting

respectable

[prisma wave]

Very exciting

[quiet depot]

oh right this is for a comp

forgot thay

that*

[prisma wave]

yep

[quiet depot]

is there a prize?

[prisma wave]

$10000

[hot hull]

it's like the chicken and the egg
So BM, what was first?

[onyx loom]

10k 😳

[astral quiver]

Do you check the Kotlin Multiplatform Mobile yesterday?

[prisma wave]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[quiet depot]

do you remember my suggestions?

[jovial warren]

make an IntelliJ plugin so that it is properly recognised and syntax highlighting works as well, or something like that

[prisma wave]

Some of them

[hot hull]

Do you know how many chicken nuggets you could buy with that

[quiet depot]

considering there’s a prize, might be worth reevaluating them

[hot hull]

Atleast 5

[quiet depot]

because there’s some serious inconsistencies

[prisma wave]

Yeah I think it is a little inconsistent right now

[quiet depot]

is there a spec written?

[prisma wave]

Nothing formal

[quiet depot]

is everything at least there?

[prisma wave]

I started writing a grammar but then realised it was a waste of time

[jovial warren]

also what is it with you and programming languages

[astral quiver]

If my knowledge of parser

[prisma wave]

Most of it is in the ANTLR grammar I wrote a while ago but we've changed some things since then

also what is it with you and programming languages
@jovial warren they're cool

[astral quiver]

Is basically not exists

But write IntelliJ plugins is not hard

That's a guide to how to add custom language support to IntelliJ

[jovial warren]

also does it have proper function type inference?

something that Kotlin lacks that kinda triggers me

[prisma wave]

it will eventually

But in a clever way

[astral quiver]

It's getting better the type inference in the 1.4

[prisma wave]

yeah it is

[astral quiver]

Call reference update I really like

[quiet depot]

so bm, is there a spec that contains everything? idc if it’s formal or not, so long the info is there

cuz if there is, might make a pr

[prisma wave]

interesting

i can write one

the only thing is probably outdated

[astral quiver]

Was kinda annoying to see that a function supports but because is not the same type you can't fit on it

Elara is actually pretty cool

Great job Alex

[prisma wave]

Ty :)

although it wasn't just me

Yugi did most of the parser and katsu made most of the original lexer

i just did most of the design and finishing touches

[onyx loom]

have u spoke to sx about elara since

[prisma wave]

nope

im scared to mention it

[onyx loom]

😂😂 🤣

[astral quiver]

The design is pretty

[prisma wave]

Yeah I agree

although it's quite inconsistent right now

[astral quiver]

The one thing I do not like is be able to use and not use parentheses to call

This is a inconsistent that groovy has that I don't like

[onyx loom]

i quite like the way u can call without parens

[prisma wave]

^ me too

it's optional ofc

[astral quiver]

Because I hate see a code base with the two types of call

[prisma wave]

but in lots of cases it can be a lot cleaner

[onyx loom]

tbh the only time u would use the parens is for calling without params

[prisma wave]

yeah and if there's any ambiguity

[onyx loom]

so when u do call the function, its easily noticeable and then when u have a param it looks cleaner

[hot hull]

How does one make a SortedMap mutable?

Or am I just hella dumb?

[prisma wave]

they already are

[hot hull]

Ah ok

I was dumb

[astral quiver]

I want to break my computer every single time that I go to the maven central to peak some dependency and it's returns in the gradle format that NO ONE USES

[hot hull]

Been awake since 4:20 am, so don't judge me

SrSouza, excuse me what

[prisma wave]

oh the group: blah @astral quiver ?

[jovial warren]

yep

and also compile

[hot hull]

Ah that

[prisma wave]

disgusting

[astral quiver]

Yessss

[hot hull]

I thought you said gradle bad -.-

[jovial warren]

that's the most annoying part, compile

I mean, in DSL, the separated format looks better imo

since it's just implementation("group","artifact","version")

[astral quiver]

Gradle Is beautiful, gradle is my love

[jovial warren]

^ same

Kotlin + Gradle Kotlin DSL is best imo

[onyx loom]

🌝

[astral quiver]

Yessss

[jovial warren]

though some people think Kotlin DSL is crap because it is really verbose

cough @prisma wave cough

[astral quiver]

It's getting better

[prisma wave]

it is

dsl bad

groovy good

[jovial warren]

Groovy DSL bad Kotlin DSL good

[astral quiver]

The old tasks system

[prisma wave]

groovy dsl isn't a thing

[onyx loom]

groovy good

[prisma wave]

it's just how gradle is supposed to be used

[jovial warren]

it's called Groovy DSL everywhere

they're both DSLs

[astral quiver]

Kotlin good boy from papa

[prisma wave]

but one's good and one isn't

[astral quiver]

The Kotlin one

👀

[jovial warren]

@prisma wave in your subjective opinion

[prisma wave]

objective

kotlin dsl too verbose and slow

groovy flexible and good

[jovial warren]

what?

Kotlin DSL isn't slow

[astral quiver]

The two are good

[prisma wave]

slower than groovy

[jovial warren]

Groovy is ew though

[astral quiver]

But that fact is that Kotlin DSL was a crap tooling but was one