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earnest narwhal Aug 25, 2020, 9:22 PM

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xD

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:22 PM

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I forgot that was even there lol

earnest narwhal Aug 25, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Lol

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woah that’s a long name Kotlin

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Indeed it is

earnest narwhal Aug 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/christopher-walken-too-long-didnt-read-tldr-gif-9222668

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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his name is Brister Mitten (well, it was for about 99% of last year until he thought he was really cool and decided to start changing his nickname to something really obnoxious lol)

earnest narwhal Aug 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Oh I see

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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his real name is Alex, but that's irrelevant lol

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(not doxxing it's on his GitHub)

earnest narwhal Aug 25, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Oki

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:24 PM

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👀

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you should write my biography

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 9:25 PM

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can i contribute

surreal quarry Aug 25, 2020, 9:25 PM

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doxxed him for his github fingerguns

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 9:25 PM

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by deleting the clojure part of ur life 🙃

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:26 PM

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no

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that's a very important bit

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:26 PM

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okay, sign me up lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:27 PM

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chapter 1. Java good
chapter 2. Kotlin good
chapter 3. Clojure good

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 9:27 PM

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what an interesting story!

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:28 PM

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it's great

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:28 PM

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"chapter 4: finally realised that Scala is the true king and that I was full of shit this whole time" pending...

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lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:28 PM

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the story arc is very interesting

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that'll be the day

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Scala is weird

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I've never used it before

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ya know what? just for that, I'm doing it right now lol

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repl.it time

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I've only used it for the jvm-plugins repo

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the build tool kinda sucks

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takes like 20 seconds to build 2 classes 🙃

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 9:31 PM

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how do I define a setter for a var in the constructor of a kotlin class?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:32 PM

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the short answer is you can't

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properties declared in a primary constructor are assumed to be "pure" (no custom getter or setter)

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 9:32 PM

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ah

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I think you'd need to do

class Test(value: String) {
  var youThing = value
}

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Is there a better way to do this:

abstract class LogWriter(var loggingPrefix: String,
                         var detailed: Boolean = false,
                         var padding: Int = 60,
                         logLevel: Level = Level.ALL) : Logging, Debugging {
    var logLevel: Level = logLevel
        set(value) {
            field = value
            logger.level = logLevel
        }
    protected val logger = Bukkit.getLogger().also { it.level = logLevel }
...
}

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I don't really need the logLevel value in the class itself

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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kinda

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you might as well have logLevel without a backing field

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nvm

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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but I would like to have a field where if you set the field, you set the logger's field

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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when you go on repl.it and go to make a new repl, and you find Scala at the bottom of the list of practical languages lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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😦

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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and if you get the field, you actually get the logger's field

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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scala is practical

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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ooh objects are a thing in Scala

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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quite a lot of kotlin things are in scala

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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wait hold on a second

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please don't tell me that you define generics with []

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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@empty flint any reason you can't do ```kotlin
val logLevel
get() = Bukkit.getLogger().level
set(value) { logger.level = value }

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@jovial warren that is correct

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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ffs

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lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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it's not that bad

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I think it's pretty clean actually

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val player = sender.asInstanceOf[Player]

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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A 'val'-property cannot have a setter

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@prisma wave

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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var*

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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@empty flint it's a val, the Kotlin equivalent of final

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@prisma wave it doesn't have smart casting either?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:38 PM

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not sure

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one of them does

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I think Groovy does

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but scala doesn't

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 9:39 PM

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No yeah that's what I was going for but I didn't know how to write it better than the way I did. Didn't know the warning about setting the field went away if you specify a custom getter

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:39 PM

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also why tf do methods look like this: ```scala
def main() = {

}

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:39 PM

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why not?

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looks like elara :)

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:39 PM

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because it's not an assignment it's a declaration

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:39 PM

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if functions are first class

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then isn't it both?

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:40 PM

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wdym first class?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:40 PM

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scala is a functional language

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it has first class functions

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i.e higher order functions

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:40 PM

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ah okay

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Scala has strict OOP though which is annoying

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:41 PM

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how so?

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:41 PM

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main.scala:1: error: expected class or object definition
def main(args: Array[String]) {
^
one error found
compiler exit status 1

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what I mean by strict OOP is that everything has to be wrapped in a class, like Java

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probably not the right definition but eh

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:42 PM

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oh I see

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meh

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that's not so bad

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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also why does it take like 2-3 seconds to literally compile 5 lines lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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sbt bad

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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SBT?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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the build tool

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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also I figured out what's up with that = {} thingy btw

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you only need the = sign if you specify the return type explicitly

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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=>

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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wait does Scala have type inference to the level where you don't have to explicitly specify the return type of a function?

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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E

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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L

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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A

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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R

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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A

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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fingerclojuremoon

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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https://tenor.com/sZgR.gif

Tenor

????

▶ Play video

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wait does Scala have type inference to the level where you don't have to explicitly specify the return type of a function?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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maybe

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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because that's something I've wanted in Kotlin for pretty much ever

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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messy

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:46 PM

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You should edit your L, it looks like EIARA

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Uf you sprcify the =

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With = it woukd infer the return type

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Fyck cabt tupe

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Oof

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Brb

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:46 PM

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o_o

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Fyck cabt tupe
who's gonna try decipher this then

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:47 PM

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the only way I can think to make Kotlin use proper type inference on functions (like it should have) is something like this: ```kotlin
fun myFunction() = run {}

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Its 3;20

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:47 PM

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gross

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Spare me

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:47 PM

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ok :)

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:47 PM

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which is even more annoying than specifying the return type

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:47 PM

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functions should specify return type

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unless it's totally obvious from context

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especially in FP

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:48 PM

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yeah but the main reason why I switched to Kotlin is so that I can write less code lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:48 PM

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just make every function return Any

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ez

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Back to sleep

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Gn bois

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:48 PM

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gn

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:48 PM

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@prisma wave wat?

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gn @old wyvern

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:48 PM

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it's like liskov

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but extreme

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EXTREME liskov substitution

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every function returns Any

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yeah but the main reason why I switched to Kotlin is so that I can write less code lol
you sound like a person in need of clojure

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no specifying return types there

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:49 PM

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you mean this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liskov_substitution_principle

Liskov substitution principle

Substitutability is a principle in object-oriented programming stating that, in a computer program, if S is a subtype of T, then objects of type T may be replaced with objects of type S (i.e. an object of type T may be substituted with any object of a subtype S) without alteri...

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:49 PM

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or parameter types

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yes

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:49 PM

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or parameter types
wait what?

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parameter types have always been one of those things that feels like it just kinda sucks the life out of type inference

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:50 PM

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clojijre

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I mean you can't really infer a parameter type

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:51 PM

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true

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I was just about to say "and also constructor parameters" but I got half way through typing the word "parameter" and went "hold on a second, that's still a type of parameter" lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:53 PM

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no constructors in clojure

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:53 PM

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https://tenor.com/sZgR.gif

Tenor

????

▶ Play video

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:54 PM

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This is pretty cool

📎 unknown.png

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Language trends

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Kotlin = poised to revolutionise programming

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Kotlin vs Clojure

📎 unknown.png

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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https://tenor.com/62vZ.gif

Tenor

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Can't compare to GO though

📎 unknown.png

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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wait why is Go more popular than Kotlin?

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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speed

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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speed?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:56 PM

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go

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pff

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more like

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go away

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:56 PM

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https://tenor.com/WpQw.gif

Tenor

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Yeah GO is hella fast, idk why it's popular though, but people love it

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Go feels lightweight

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not as fast as rust

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but also not as ugly

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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funny how people like the shittest of languages lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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like which

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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iirc sx likes go

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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choose your words carefully

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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JavaScript, Python, Java, the list goes on lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Python is nice

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JS and Java aren't that bad

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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📎 unknown.png

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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C++, PHP, C

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Rust is quire low as well

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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C languages good

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rust is surprisingly low

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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top 20 for kotlin tho pog

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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C is dogshit, and C++ is even worse

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Rust and Haskell are like the main circlejerky languages

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HA

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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though C has its uses

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C++ has no place in this world, same as JS

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Better than Pascal or whatever was popular at the time

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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c++ has its uses too

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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????

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C++ is insanely widely used

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so is JS

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lol

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Rust better than Kotlin?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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/uj can't compare the 2

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Top 5

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jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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yeah they're widely used, but that doesn't stop them being shit and not deserving any credit for anything

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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/rj rust bad clojure good kotlin bad

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what's wrong with c++?

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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JS is gonna fall from 1st pretty soon

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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wait Go is in #4?

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wow

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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have you even seen the syntax? lol

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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kekw java going down

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Yeah

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There isn't a single low level language that isn't at least a bit ugly

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it's still powerful

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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C++'s power isn't the syntax

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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and somewhat nice

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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like wtf is ```c++
using namespace std;

int main() {
cout << "Hello World";
return 0;
}

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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mEmOrY MaNaGeMeNt

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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^ that too

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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You can hate it, but memory management is one of it's greatest features

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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apparently using namespaces like that is an anti-pattern

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hating manual memory management is dumb

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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what kind of a useless ass keyword is reinterpret_cast, or const_cast, or dynamic_cast, or static_cast, or even friend, wtf is a friend

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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companion

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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friend

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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companion makes more sense, because it's the companion of the class it's in

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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and i'm pretty sure most of those aren't keywords

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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yes they are

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:02 PM

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are they not macros?

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or similar

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idk

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:02 PM

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not sure

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but what about wchar_t then

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like wtf is that

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 10:02 PM

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C++'s power isn't the syntax

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:02 PM

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yeah ik

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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c++ has a ton of datatypes to give more room for optimisation

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same with c

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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true

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but they shouldn't all be keywords

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like wchar_t should not be a fucking keyword

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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why not?

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in theory it's no different to int

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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keywords aren't supposed to look like that, they're supposed to be easy, short, and understandable from just about no context

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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tailrec

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companion object

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volatile

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strictfp

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synchronized

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crossinline

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:)

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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companion object makes sense, volatile is a little bit more complex but still makes sense, synchronized makes perfect sense, and crossinline I'll admit needs some context

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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all of them make sense

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but require you to know the language and its capabilities

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the same goes for wchar_t and whatever else

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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true

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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C++ is not meant to be a language that you look at it and you can see what it does without knowing it, it's complex but that's not a problem

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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yeah I guess

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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if you want ugly

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look at rust

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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@ niall

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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and yet it's one of the most circlejerky languages out there

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because it's good

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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but if you're working with low-level stuff anyway, why not just use C? it's probably faster, is structured a bit better, and is actually alright lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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or something

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idk

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C++ adds a lot of features that C is lacking

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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You'll hate me for saying this but Clojure is pretty ugly as well xD

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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i mean

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jokes aside I agree

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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the truth has been spoken.

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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def something nil xD

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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it's not the most pretty of languages

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but most of the ugly languages are the most elegant and powerful

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rust, c++, clojure, haskell

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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"elegant" my ass

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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bruh

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you clearly didn't see my clash solution

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it was great

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I don't want to see your clash solution

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also teach me the Clojure ways

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I wanna see this

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:08 PM

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wdym

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:08 PM

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tell me where I find learning resources

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 10:09 PM

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u dont wanna know 💀

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:09 PM

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no idea

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i just learnt as I went along

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:09 PM

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(require '[clojure.repl :refer :all]) okay, nope lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:09 PM

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johnny

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🙄

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 10:09 PM

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oh yeah

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can we see some decompiled clojure

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 10:09 PM

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It's always fun to learn a new language just to do it

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:09 PM

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it would be my pleasure

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@ocean quartz yeah

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:10 PM

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jokes aside, clojure is kinda ugly but once you actually realise why it's ugly, it starts to become really elegant

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imo anyway

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:11 PM

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last time I tried learning a new language properly, it was C, and I got as far as the part where static was declaring local variables and I was like https://tenor.com/UWiC.gif

Tenor

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:11 PM

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ok the decompiled clojure experience

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 10:11 PM

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If you don't learn C as your first language and you learn an OOP one first once you try you get a shock

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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yeah I learnt Java first, big mistake lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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procedural only 😎

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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C was my first one

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_Eeqt5DxxkP.png already looking pretty hideous

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Is it possible to interpret a string as a string that should be interpolated?

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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@prisma wave wtf lol

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I swear half of that is Java code lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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it is

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it compiles to java bytecode

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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decompiled clojure

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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ah okay

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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yea

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_Au1u2FsWxO.png

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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If I had a class with a field "name" and I knew that field existed, could I pass a string to that class that it will try to interpolate with its own field names?

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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show me the source code

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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our lovely CommandExecutor

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https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_gSMGA6ccLE.png

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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wait I gotta see some decompiled Kotlin code lol

onyx loom Aug 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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😎

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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decompiled kotlin is boring

ocean quartz Aug 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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main__var 😢

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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just null checks everywhere

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https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_LyqZlZCdZ7.png

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hot

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

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don't you just show Kotlin bytecode and then decompile to show decompiled Java code?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

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yeah

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well

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kotlin bytecode doesn't exist

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it's just jvm bytecode

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Decompilers can be misleading because they assume the source was java

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

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indeed

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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tbh, it's not that bad

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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also question for mr clojure expert

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https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_qcpfgPb7vi.png

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is this supposed to compile to use the Reflector class?

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Wdym?

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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when decompiled Kotlin becomes the exact same as the Java code that you're basing your code off of lol

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Is it type hinted?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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in the decompiled code it has this

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https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_XfwkPX56o6.png

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which I assume uses reflection

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Yeah it does

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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how would one perform type hinting?

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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^Player

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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ah

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i'm not sure that's possible?

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since it's reusing a variable of type CommandSender

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:18 PM

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It is possible

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Just don't hint it in the parameter declaration

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I recommend you put :global-vars {*warn-on-reflection* true} in your project.clj

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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it's in the main class, is that not enough?

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I already kinda did that in the lein template but the plugin namespace gets evaluated too late

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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i copied your clojure-plugin template

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Yeah

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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thonk lol (the left is decompiled Kotlin code, the right is the original Java code that I'm modelling my Kotlin code from on GitHub)

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lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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It loads the command namespace before setting that var

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I see

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wait, if I remove the parameter type hinting then it will just use reflection for when it's not a Player, no?

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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I never knew when decompiled to if/else if/else

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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what else would it compile to lol

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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switch?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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not versatile enough

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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I mean, that's basically what it is

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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switch has to be compile time constants

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Switch is a rather odd construct

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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indeed

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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what? @prisma wave

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I never knew that

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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yea

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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It actually has an own instruction that uses a constant lookup table

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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you can only do literals, enums, etc in switch

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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oh yeah you're right

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I actually forgot about that since it's been that long since I used Java lol

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_DObwuMvrK7.png

anyway johnny if I remove the type hinting for sender then wouldn't it use reflection for the sendMessage?

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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actually ya know what, time to switch it up and make a Java project for the first time in months because why not

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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boring

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clojure project

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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or a C project lol

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but I know Java so that'll be easier

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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you'd be surprised

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c isn't OOP

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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wait, if I remove the parameter type hinting then it will just use reflection for when it's not a Player, no?
@prisma wave since clojure isn't statically typed, type hinting is really just hints. If you type hint a function parameter it's going to use the type as the parameter, but other than that it's decided for each indidividual call. But it does "remember" hints and its inference isn't so bad

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Okay

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IJ doesn't give any warnings

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I assume it's done its job properly

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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@prisma wave can I pass a string format in the shape of an interpolated String as a parameter to a function?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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uh

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what

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Java does have switch statements with expressions allowrd i thnk

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In java 12 or 13

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Tho

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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c isn't OOP
@prisma wave https://tenor.com/wX9L.gif

Tenor

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I'm not sure about this case, I'd assume since there is only a single onCommand method it may be able to resolve and infer hints on its own

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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14 I think

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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" enchan ed swotch)

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Enhancrd

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Enhanced

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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jesus christ lol

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we got there in the end

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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No it doesn't allow for synamic stuff I'm p sure

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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🙃

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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That would be a big deal

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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also, is it just me or is it funny how you can use a Kotlin DSL build script with a Java project, just sounds like "Kotlin DSL" is something that's Kotlin-exclusive to me, idk

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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It does John

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Nvm I don't think that's possible either way

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Its kinda diff from normal swtch tho

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Mind showing an example?

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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You use arrows

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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@lunar cypress welp...

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https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_8aCtg42F2X.png

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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And it doesnt fall through

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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now we're on double reflection lol

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I know switch expressions

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But I am pretty sure they still aren't dynamic

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Which is what this was all about

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I've just thought that I'm working on a REST API for BardyBot, and I got implementations to write anyway (albeit literally no one's gonna use them, but eh, it's fun anyway, and you must get some credit for trying, right?)

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:27 PM

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@prisma wave you removed the parameter type hint?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:27 PM

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yeah

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was I supposed to add one somewhere else?

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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also wtf does "No tests found for given includes" mean btw?

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(trying to run unit tests)

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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no tests found that match the criteria

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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what criteria?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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No I mean you should leave it I was just wondering if interop inference was strong enough

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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usually package, class name

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oh

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https://img.bristermitten.me/2sIclN9lQa.png

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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yeah I got that, but it doesn't make any sense

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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add gradle test { useJUnitPlatform() } if you're on junit 5

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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(.kickPlayer ^Player sender text)

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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ah right

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@prisma wave I have that, but I'm using DSL

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tasks.withType<Test> {
    useJUnitPlatform()
}
```is what I have

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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yep that works

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ty

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Ah nvm john, I read the article wrong

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Just rechecked it

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You were rigjt

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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@prisma wave were you talking to me?

old wyvern Aug 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Its still a constant

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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to johnny

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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okay

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any ideas about my case?

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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run gradle test and see if it works

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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What i also like to do (you can see that in connect-four) is make some interop more idiomatic. memfn is useful for that
(def kick-player (memfn ^kickPlayer ^String message))

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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what does that do?

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I mean I kinda get the gist

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but specifically

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:31 PM

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You can look at the source of memfn, it's just a macro that gives you a clojure function that uses interop

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:31 PM

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https://bin.bardy.me/mqEvbwBk.cs

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Ah I expected something like that

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Enables you to use it as first class and stop worrying about types

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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@jovial warren you don't have Junit?

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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I have kotlin("test-junit5")

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do I need the JUnit engine thingy as well?

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testRuntimeOnly("org.junit.jupiter:junit-jupiter-engine:5.6.2") this one

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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I believe so

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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well, I guess it's time for a bit a' the ol' https://tryitands.ee

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@lunar cypress so you'd call it with (kick-player player "blah")?

jovial warren Aug 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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okay works now

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cheers again mate

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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np

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Yeah

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Looks cool

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Yeah well. It's nothing special and you don't technically need it but I just don't like having too many . forms around

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Interop isn't bad for the most part, but staying as much in clojure as possible is definitely the most convenient

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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yeah idiomatic is always better

lunar cypress Aug 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Idk if you saw the discussion we had about type hinting arrays @ discljord

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Now that actually sucks

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I skimmed it

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Will have a look

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

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private var paddingFormat = "%1$-${padding}s"
    var padding = padding
        set(value) {
            field = value;
            paddingFormat = "%1$-${value}s"
        }

I don't like this implementation, is there a cleaner way to simulate setter variable type overloading? (padding is an integer!)

var paddingFormat = "%1$-${padding}s"
        get() = field.removeSurrounding("%1$-", "s").toInt() }
        set(value: Int) { "%1$-${value}s" }

doesn't compile of course

prisma wave Aug 25, 2020, 10:45 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/4c084463b41c33e42738ad289fee2d19/tenor.gif

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What exactly are you trying to do here?

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

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rofl

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I am trying to create a string format based on a number

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"%1$-${padding}s" would result in the format "%1$-60s" for the padding number 60

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but I want to both access the number 60 and set the value using a number, not a string

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normally you would write a method that returns that returns that private field in java

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but I want to access it using a field accessor instead of a method

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no, actually that's dumb

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nvm

empty flint Aug 25, 2020, 11:23 PM

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I'm having trouble with scratch file encodings for utf-8 characters.

var output = String.format("%s  →  %d", "joe", 35)
println(output)

results in
joe ? 35

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Any ideas how to set that up properly?

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the IDE is set to UTF-8 and the file does appear to be UTF-8

ocean quartz Aug 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Holy shit i just spent way too long trying to get Javafx to work with Kotlin and intellij's plugin

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quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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tornadofx

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@ocean quartz beepy boopy

ocean quartz Aug 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Yeah it's what i'm using

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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ah

old wyvern Aug 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Pig

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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hi

old wyvern Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Did you have any issues with using gradle with tornadofx

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didnt seem to work for me last time I used it

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 AM

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i’ve never used tornadofx

old wyvern Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 AM

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ah

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There was this weird issue where maven worked but gradle didnt

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 AM

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i don’t even use kotlin

old wyvern Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 AM

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ohhh rip

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nvm

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Holy shit his fingers must be cramped up with that daily avg...

📎 unknown.png

distant sun Aug 26, 2020, 12:37 AM

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i don’t even use kotlin
@quiet depot im so proud of you

onyx loom Aug 26, 2020, 12:41 AM

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ull be converted

📎 sooon.png

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thanks for the meme matt 🌝

ocean quartz Aug 26, 2020, 12:43 AM

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fingerguns

oak raft Aug 26, 2020, 6:07 AM

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why did c# beat java in the race?

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hint: you're supposed to say "why?"

old wyvern Aug 26, 2020, 6:11 AM

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why?

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@oak raft

oak raft Aug 26, 2020, 6:16 AM

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because java couldn't c# 😏

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I'm somewhat of a comedian if you couldn't tell already

old wyvern Aug 26, 2020, 6:22 AM

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MinusOne

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 6:24 AM

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MinusOne

lunar cypress Aug 26, 2020, 7:26 AM

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If I had a penny for every time I heard that joke

lavish notch Aug 26, 2020, 7:32 AM

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If I had a pound for every time I heard that ^ joke

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 7:36 AM

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because java couldn't c# 😏

lunar cypress Aug 26, 2020, 7:38 AM

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What joke?

#

"If I had a penny for every time..." is not a joke

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 7:54 AM

#

If I had a penny for every time I heard that joke

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Id probaly have 10 pence

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 8:11 AM

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since when do you need to see someone to beat them in a race tho

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 10:02 AM

#

@prisma wave

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How to make kotlin lambda for Supplier

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:03 AM

#

How do I prevent this from leaking in an abstract class constructor? Is there some init {...} block equivalent for after initialisation where it's certain this has been fully initialised?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:03 AM

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() -> Type

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Oh nvm

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Nice

#

Magic

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:03 AM

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@empty flint pretty sure your only option is to ignore the warning (or move to a separate function perhaps)

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:07 AM

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vacuum noises

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:09 AM

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😳

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 10:09 AM

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🌝

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:09 AM

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no more

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i cant take it anymore

#

please stop

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Hm when is a Kotlin companion object initialised?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:10 AM

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classloading

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Can I specify it as the Main class for a plugin?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:10 AM

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no

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:10 AM

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I guess not, right?

#

yeah

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:11 AM

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because bukkit has to initialize it with the PluginClassLoader

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:11 AM

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yeah

#

what would be the best way to implement it as a singleton Plugin object without using the companion?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:12 AM

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how do you mean?

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:12 AM

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I guess just by using an instance variable, right?

#

I feel stupid for asking

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:13 AM

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lol i'm not sure what you're asking

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:13 AM

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I just want my class that extends the JavaPlugin to be a singleton

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:13 AM

#

?kotlin-dependency

compact perchBOT Aug 26, 2020, 10:13 AM

#

FAQ Answer:

Dependency Injection
Dependency injection is when we pass a class through other class constructors to access that specific class in those other classes.

class Main : JavaPlugin() {
    
    override fun onEnable() {
      val other = Other(this)
      
      other.method()
    }
    
    fun myMethod() {
       /* Some code goes in here */
    }
}
class Other(private val main: Main) {

    fun method() {
      main.myMethod()
    }
}

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:13 AM

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practically speaking it is

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:15 AM

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that actually works I guess

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:15 AM

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DI > Static

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or pseudo-static

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:15 AM

#

DI?

#

oh

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:15 AM

#

dependency injection

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:16 AM

#

yeah

#

I have no idea what that is actually

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:16 AM

#

https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/695431668944732270/748122990868430869

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:18 AM

#

How is that example injecting dependencies?

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explain it to me like im 5

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:18 AM

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its passing it through the classes constructors

#

?java-dependency

compact perchBOT Aug 26, 2020, 10:18 AM

#

FAQ Answer:

Dependency Injection
Dependency Injection is a method of passing our dependencies, into the classes that need them. In java, this is commonly done by passing an instance of the dependency via the constructor.

public final class CoolPlugin extends JavaPlugin {
    @Override
    public void onEnable() {
        final Other other = new Other(this);
        other.method();
    }

    public void myMethod() {
        /* Some code goes in here */
    }
}

public final class Other {
    private final CoolPlugin main;

    public Other(@NotNull final CoolPlugin main) {
        this.main = main;
    }

    public void method() {
        main.myMethod();
    }
}```

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:18 AM

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thats it in java

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:20 AM

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And why is that better than static stuff?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Because Java (and Kotlin to a degree) are object oriented languages

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The very idea of static is not object oriented

#

But also it creates a more explicit dependency graph making code more or less tightly coupled which makes it easier to extend in the future

#

lol that sentence kind of means nothing

#

read into SOLID principles if you wanna find how to write "clean" object oriented code

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?solid

compact perchBOT Aug 26, 2020, 10:25 AM

#

FAQ Answer:

What is SOLID?

S - Single-responsiblity principle
O - Open-closed principle
L - Liskov substitution principle
I - Interface segregation principle
D - Dependency Inversion Principle

If you wish to read up more on it, you can check here:
https://scotch.io/bar-talk/s-o-l-i-d-the-first-five-principles-of-object-oriented-design

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:33 AM

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So much stuff to know man

#

it's too much all at once

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Its all fake

#

"Principles" made my Big Coda

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:37 AM

#

class BlockyDebugPlugin : DistributedBlockyPlugin() {
    init {
        instance = this
    }
    companion object {
        lateinit var instance: BlockyDebugPlugin;
    }

    override fun onEnable() {
        
    }
}

Can I somehow direct every invocation of the companion object to an invocation of the instance? Do I have to specify the same methods in both for that to work or is there a generic method?

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:38 AM

#

static <

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:38 AM

#

static >
@obtuse gale That's a little too little info for me, what do you mean?

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:38 AM

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I mean static < lol

#

you should be using DI

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:39 AM

#

class BlockyDebugPlugin : DistributedBlockyPlugin() {
    init {
        instance = this
    }
    companion object {
        lateinit var instance: BlockyDebugPlugin;
        fun callableFunction() = instance.callableFunction()
    }

    override fun onEnable() {

    }

    fun callableFunction() {

    }
}

Like this?

#

callableFunction

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:39 AM

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you shouldnt use instance = this anyway

#

so say you need ur main class in like a listener

#

class Listener(private val main:CoolPlugin
0{
  @EventHandler
  fun onPlaceBlock(event:BlockBreakEvent){
    println(main.getConfig().getString("test"))
  }
}

class CoolPlugin: JavaPlugin(){
  override fun onEnable(){
    server.pluginManager.registerEvents(Listener(this), this)
  }
}```

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:42 AM

#

right?

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:42 AM

#

that way you dont need static/companion object

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:43 AM

#

but what's wrong with a static companion object? Or is this about the SOLID principles again?

#

Because why would they implement that functionality if that's such a bad thing to do?

#

I don't want to have to pass around the plugin to every class I create that needs it

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 10:44 AM

#

solid

#

basically if you want to test some part of your plugin seperatley

#

or whatever

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:45 AM

#

its not that static/companion object are always bad

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:46 AM

#

but having val plugin: BlockyDebugPlugin in every single class just seems very boilerplate-y and really unnecessary to do when I can access the effectively singleton via the companion

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

tbh im pretty sure its better to not even pass ur main round, just pass the things you need round, but I mean I dont do that i always pass my main round

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

☝️

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

tbh im pretty sure its better to not even pass ur main round, just pass the things you need round, but I mean I dont do that i always pass my main round
@obtuse gale Sometimes you need the plugin object though

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

Yeah

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

true

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

And that annoys me alot

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

same

#

that's why I think my companion object solution is OO enough and clean enough for nobody to complain

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

I mean its not OO in anyway is it?

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

well it's an object so it's gotta be at least 50% of the OO

#

says so right in the name

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 10:50 AM

#

Kotlin

#

Wacklin

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 10:58 AM

#

That is amazing. Maybe I'm googling something completely wrong but I can't find any tutorial on how to use gradle to replace strings in the plugin.yml file with values from the gradle build file

#

is there a plugin for that?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:03 AM

#

ProcessResources

#

Any form of static state is not object oriented

#

That's not necessarily a bad thing, but you can't deny that

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:05 AM

#

And I don't

#

But it doesn't have to be

#

conforming to standards when it clearly makes more sense from a logical and readability standpoint to break the standard makes no sense to me

#

that sentence is a mess

#

but I hope it's understandable enough

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:07 AM

#

Welcome to OOP

#

Where everything is over engineered and more verbose than it needs to be

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:09 AM

#

when I specify sourceSets in gradle, do I have to start from the src/ folder or the main/ folder?

#

📎 unknown.png

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:10 AM

#

for what?

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:11 AM

#

hm no actually I don't need sourceSets, do I?

#

I still don't understand how gradle works exactly :S

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:11 AM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

which bit?

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:12 AM

#

processResources {
    with copySpec {
    ...
    }
}

what does the "with copySpec" mean?

#

What's copySpec in this case? an object? a function?

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 11:13 AM

#

processResources {
    from(sourceSets.main.resources.srcDirs) {
        filter ReplaceTokens, tokens: [version: version]
    }
}```

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:14 AM

#

Probably a function

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 11:14 AM

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thats what ive got, it replaces @version@ in the plugin.yml with theversiion

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:14 AM

#

but that's more a case of not knowing groovy than Gradle

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import org.apache.tools.ant.filters.ReplaceTokens

processResources {
    from(sourceSets.main.resources.srcDirs) {
        filter ReplaceTokens, tokens: [version: version]
    }
}

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this is what I use

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so yeah pretty similar to aj's

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just with the import

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:14 AM

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why @version@? Does it have to be surrounded by @?

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 11:14 AM

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yus

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Hm does that work with the kotlin source file as well?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:15 AM

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no

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from(sourceSets.main.resources

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 11:16 AM

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public class ScrewYouSpigot implements Listener {

    public ScrewYouSpigot(final SpawnerMechanics plugin) {
        System.out.println("Registering Event");
        plugin.getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(this, plugin);
        System.out.println("Registered Event");
    }

    @EventHandler
    public void onBlockExplode(final BlockExplodeEvent event) {
        System.out.println("Fired @BlockExplodeEvent!");
    }
}

Being initialized onEnable, yet it doesn't get fired, what the fuck is this shit

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:16 AM

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it'll only process in the resources directory

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:16 AM

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from(sourceSets.main.resources
@prisma wave sure but can't you then do from(sourceSets.main.kotlin...) ?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:16 AM

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spigot bad

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@empty flint I believe so

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although it'll probably slow down the build a fair bit since there's now a lot more to process

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Can I specify a single file as well?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:17 AM

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probably

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not sure how off the top of my head though

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 11:23 AM

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AHHHH

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/m7gbv9g5xqm822b/Screen Shot 2020-08-26 at 9.23.18 PM.png?dl=0

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halp

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 11:24 AM

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So it was actually EntityExplodeEvent which gets triggered which begs the question, does BlockExplodeEvent trigger for anything :kek:

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Blocks exploding

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 11:24 AM

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But it doesn't Aj

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 11:24 AM

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What did you try it with?

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 11:25 AM

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tnt, and creepers

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 11:25 AM

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are end crystals considered blocks?

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 11:25 AM

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no

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entities

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 11:26 AM

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how about a bed in the nether

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:26 AM

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How do I specify source dirs in kts?

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the internet isn't very helpful when it comes to examples

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sourceSets {
    main {
        kotlin {
            srcDirs("src/main/kotlin")
        }
    }
}

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doesn't work

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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You shouldn't need any of that?

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that's for multi-platform builds iirc

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:29 AM

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But how does sourceSets.main.resources.srcDirs this get populated then?

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is that automatic?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:29 AM

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wdym?

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sourceSets.main.resources refers to a SourceSet that basically wraps src/main/resources

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:30 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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help

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:30 AM

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you using the kotlin dsl?

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:30 AM

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yeah

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:30 AM

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yeah that's groovy syntax

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:30 AM

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well

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that explains it

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Could you translate that to kotlin for me?

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I have no idea what these constructs are in groovy

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https://docs.gradle.org/current/javadoc/org/gradle/language/jvm/tasks/ProcessResources.html

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this is the right task, right?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:35 AM

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yeah

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:36 AM

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oh I guess I need the task container?

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is that a task?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:36 AM

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tokens: [version: version]
``` I believe is equivalent to ```kotlin
tokens = mapOf("version", version)

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:37 AM

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how do I print something during the build process?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:38 AM

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you can probably just extend one of the tasks

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:38 AM

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one of which tasks?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:38 AM

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in groovy it would be like gradle jar { println "Hello" }

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one of the tasks that gets run in the build process

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:38 AM

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I have exactly 0 tasks

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:38 AM

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gradle build is shorthand for assemble, compileJava, jar, etc

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:38 AM

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in any of my gradle files

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:39 AM

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there are premade tasks

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:39 AM

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which ones?

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how do I extend them?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:39 AM

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in groovy it would be like gradle jar { println "Hello" }

gradle build is shorthand for assemble, compileJava, jar, etc

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:39 AM

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oh those are tasks?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Yes

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everything that comes after gradle [blah] is a task

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:41 AM

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ah

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:43 AM

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DI is better with Koin 🙂

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:45 AM

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kids these days

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all they know is framework this, framework that

#

i just wanna ~~grill~~ code!

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:45 AM

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lol

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Koin is a good DI framework

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and also, yes, frameworks good

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I love both making and using them lol

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:48 AM

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pff

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over engineered poppycock

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:48 AM

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wtf?

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:48 AM

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koin

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tf dat

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guice masterrace

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:48 AM

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it's a Kotlin DI framework

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and it's super lightweight

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:48 AM

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supposedly "more idiomatic"

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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it is

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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i'll tell you what's idiomatic

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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what does that word even mean

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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the good old fashioned way

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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because you write DI like this: ```kotlin
val myInjectableClass by inject<MyInjectableClass>

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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hideous

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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yeah that’s disgusting

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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constructor injection or nothing

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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no it isn't

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nope

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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lel

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i’m messing idc

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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delegate injection is really handy

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and it's really idiomatic as well

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:50 AM

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buzzword

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:50 AM

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because I totally know the meaning of that word

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:50 AM

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brug

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:50 AM

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So if I define my task using

tasks {
    processResources {

    }
}

how do I call that task?

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:50 AM

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bruh*

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:50 AM

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gradle processResources @empty flint

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

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“buzzword” is way more common than all the other words ur saying

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

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although it already exists iirc

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

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processResources is called when you call build though isn't it?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

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yes

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

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so if it exists

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

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and also that task already exists

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

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I have to override it?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

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correct

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

#

processResources {
    // do thingys
}

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

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getting the hang of it

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:51 AM

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you probably have to do it inside the tasks closure in the DSL or something

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idk

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DSL bad

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groovy good

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:52 AM

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you're not "overriding" it, you're configuring it

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@prisma wave your mental lol

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:52 AM

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nope

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:52 AM

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I ❤️ the Kotlin DSL

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:52 AM

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groovy is much more flexible

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:52 AM

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but it's ugly and just not good imo

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:52 AM

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ugly?

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:52 AM

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it’s not ugly imo

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:52 AM

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and it doesn't have the kotlin() function xD

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 11:53 AM

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I just didn't feel like having to learn groovy and kotlin at the same time that's why I went with the kotlin dsl

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:53 AM

#

compileKotlin {
    kotlinOptions.jvmTarget = '1.8'
}

tasks {
    compileKotlin {
        kotlinOptions.jvmTarget = "1.8"
    }
}

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don't tell me the first is ugly

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:53 AM

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you don’t need to know kotlin or groovy to use gradle

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:53 AM

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@empty flint groovy is easy

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:53 AM

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and it means that the way I write dependencies would look like this: groovy implementation group: '' artifact: '' version: '' , whereas in DSL they look like this: ```kotlin
implementation("","","")

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:54 AM

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wat

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:54 AM

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(writing dependencies in that way I find is easier to read and looks nicer, but that's just personal preference)

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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they’re literally not comparable

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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what's not comparable?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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using the group: artifact: syntax is ugly

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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in Groovy it is

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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the point of manually declaring group: and blah is to enjoy the benefits of named parameters

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the dsl sample you provided, is not named

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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yeah you don't need to name them in DSL, and IJ just shows the names up in those boxes anyway

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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you don't need to in groovy either

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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it’s the equivalent of the shorthand group:artifact:ver

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albeit, uglier

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:56 AM

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the direct equivalent would be kotlin implementation(group = "", artifact = "", version = "")

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:56 AM

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yeah, that does look a bit worse I'll give ya that

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:56 AM

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groovy good dsl bad

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:57 AM

#

I just prefer the way things in Kotlin DSL are laid out, like for example: ```kotlin
tasks.withType<KotlinCompile> {

}
makes more sense to me than groovy
kotlinCompile {

}

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:57 AM

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Thonk

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:57 AM

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idk, it's really personal preference

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:57 AM

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verbose

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bad

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😠

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:57 AM

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I love the DSL personally, because it's made from Kotlin (meaning it kinda just feels like writing normal code), and it's laid out like it's programming, and it's very idiomatic for Kotlin

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:58 AM

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ofc it's personal preference but I don't get how you could prefer kotlin configure<JavaPluginConvention> { sourceCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_1_8 }
to gradle sourceCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_1_8

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:58 AM

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erm

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:58 AM

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what are you on about BM

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:58 AM

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bardy ur example before

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:58 AM

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that bottom one works in both

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:58 AM

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well

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:58 AM

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once again those aren’t equivalent

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 11:58 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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the only benefit of the DSL is having kotlin features

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and groovy pretty much has most of them

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:59 AM

#

@quiet depot yeah I think you're right, wouldn't the equivalent in DSL be something like: ```kotlin
val kotlinCompile by tasks.getting(KotlinCompile::class) {

}

onyx loom Aug 26, 2020, 11:59 AM

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grooooooovyyy

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 11:59 AM

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or am I still wrong lol

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 11:59 AM

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idk what the dsl ver

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i use groovy

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:01 PM

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ah okay

#

yeah I don't know how the DSL works all that much either, I've just seen examples of it and kinda just google it when I get stuck

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one thing that is objectively better in DSL though is the maven-publish plugin's publications layout

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even though this is very specific, hear me out

quiet depot Aug 26, 2020, 12:02 PM

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i’ve never published shit through gradle

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i just use mvn cli, usually via a bash script

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:04 PM

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in Groovy, you configure the maven-publish plugin a little something like this: groovy publishing { publications { publicationName(MavenPublication) { // configure your publication in here } } } whereas, in DSL, you do it like this: ```kotlin
publishing {
publications {
create<MavenPublication>("publicationName") {
// configure your publication in here
}
}
}

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and as I said, that's a very specific example, but it still counts

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Lets say I have a few objects (50-100) all using the same value for one of their String fields, is it worth using a small cache (not intern())

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:20 PM

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"a few objects" lol

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Lol

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:21 PM

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I recommend you cache any data that you want to be able to use/be used frequently that comes from an external source

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:21 PM

#

I just need help with the ReplaceTokens() class for Kotlin dsl, please:

from("src/main/resources/plugin.yml") {
            filter(ReplaceTokens(), mapOf("" to ""))
        }

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How does that syntax work that you wrote in groovy?

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:22 PM

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tasks.withType<ProcessResources> {
    filter(ReplaceTokens, mapOf("" to ""))
}
```I think?

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lemme see

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:23 PM

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Classifier 'ReplaceTokens' does not have a companion object, and thus must be initialized here

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:24 PM

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tasks.withType<ProcessResources> {
    from("src/main/resources") {
        include("plugin.yml")

        val tokens = mapOf(
                "" to "",
                "" to ""
        )

        filter<ReplaceTokens>("tokens" to tokens)
    }
}

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that's pretty much what I have

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I forgot that filter is a reified function in DSL lol

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:25 PM

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filter<ReplaceTokens>(mapOf("" to "")) that's it

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ty

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:25 PM

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yw

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:25 PM

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what does reified mean?

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:25 PM

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it's not something I can really explain, @prisma wave this one's your turn lol

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Also, why does it say "tokens" to tokens? doesn't that replace the literal token "@tokens@" with the map.toString() string?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Means you can access the type parameter as if it was a class

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:26 PM

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^^ there ya go

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@empty flint because it's replacing all tokens with the map of tokens

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Means you can access the type parameter as if it was a class
@prisma wave Is that like static access?

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:27 PM

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not quite

#

he means exactly what he says

#

you can access the reified type parameter as if it was a class

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:27 PM

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You can literally do T::class for example

#

It's a byproduct of the inlining process

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:28 PM

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mmmmh

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:28 PM

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e.g. imagine doing this in Java: java public <T> T myFunction(Class<T>) { return something; } with reified type params you could do this: ```kotlin
inline fun <reified T> myFunction() = something

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basically, you don't need to provide a class as a parameter, you can just provide it as a type parameter

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:29 PM

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ooooh

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:29 PM

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the function has to be inline though

#

You can't use it with any function

obtuse gale Aug 26, 2020, 12:29 PM

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bruh

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:29 PM

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so it's a typed inline function similar to a typed class? (idk the correct terminology here)

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Uh

#

Do you mean generics?

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:29 PM

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yes

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xD

#

but what do you call a class that uses generics?

#

like List<String>

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:30 PM

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The common pattern is a function that takes a Class/KClass with a reified helper function

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:30 PM

#

a... generic class...

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:30 PM

#

A generic class

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:30 PM

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right

#

anyway back to the filter function

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@empty flint because it's replacing all tokens with the map of tokens
@jovial warren I don't really understand what the literal "tokens" is there for.

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:30 PM

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basically, it's using the class ReplaceTokens to replace tokens, is all you need to know in this context

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 PM

#

what does "tokens" refer to?

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 PM

#

"tokens" refers to the fact that you want to replace tokens

lunar cypress Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 PM

#

Lets say I have a few objects (50-100) all using the same value for one of their String fields, is it worth using a small cache (not intern())
@heady birch no

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 PM

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or I believe so

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 PM

#

"tokens" refers to the fact that you want to replace tokens
@jovial warren what else would you replace other than tokens?

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 PM

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filter can replace other things

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:31 PM

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like..?

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:32 PM

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no idea

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it's just basically putting the contents of the files through a filter

#

there are other things that you'd want to replace

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I just don't really know what they are

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:34 PM

#

alright I guess that's not something I need to know now anyhow

#

ty for the reified thingy again

#

oh, also, @hot hull I owe you a coffee because I was stupid yesterday

#

how do I send you some?

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 12:35 PM

#

=pl frozen join

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hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 12:35 PM

#

You click buy me a coffee fingerguns

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:36 PM

#

You should buy me one too since I'm a contributor

#

:)

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:36 PM

#

send me the link

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:37 PM

#

👀

#

Uh

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 12:37 PM

#

What an unprepared nerd :kek:

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Lol

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:39 PM

#

Using a boxed primitive for an optional value e.g:

Integer fieldName;

vs

int fieldName;
boolean has(FieldName);

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:40 PM

#

what

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Oh that looks like a method

#

Imagine (FieldName) is the field name

#

Its a variable

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 12:40 PM

#

bruh @empty flint Thanks for the 3 coffee ❤️

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:40 PM

#

oh shit ty @empty flint

#

I was actually joking lol

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:41 PM

#

bruh...

📎 unknown.png

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:41 PM

#

@heady birch so it would be boolean hasFieldName()?

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:41 PM

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no

#

int someNumber;
boolean hasSomeNumber;

#

they are fields

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:41 PM

#

oh shit ty @empty flint
@prisma wave I have no idea if you actually got the cup of coffee or if paypal took all of it.

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:41 PM

#

vs using an Integer

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:41 PM

#

PayPal took like 1/5 of it

#

@heady birch might as well use an Integer

#

Rather than adding a degree of complexity

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 12:42 PM

#

Blocky, that site is nice, just sad no spigot kids actually donate :c

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:42 PM

#

Or an Optional

lunar cypress Aug 26, 2020, 12:42 PM

#

OptionalInt

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:42 PM

#

^

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:42 PM

#

I was actually joking lol
@prisma wave I wanted to show my gratitude for all your help :)

bruh @empty flint Thanks for the 3 coffee ❤️
@hot hull ❤️

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Oh yh

#

I forgot about those

lunar cypress Aug 26, 2020, 12:43 PM

#

niall you can't react to optionals with a puke emoji. i thought you were doing rust

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:43 PM

#

@empty flint appreciate it 🙂

#

If only more people did the same thing

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:43 PM

#

Yeah but rust is different

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:43 PM

#

Blocky, that site is nice, just sad no spigot kids actually donate :c
@hot hull Gotta force them donations with premium plugins. make those kids yeet their parents' credit cards at their screens

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:43 PM

#

Bias

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#

Unfair

#

I will file lawsuit

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

#

new File(lawsuit)

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

#

Blocky, ain't got any premium worthy shit :p

lunar cypress Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

#

Yeah but rust is different
@heady birch how so?

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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I don't think I've published enough plugins for premium xD

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

#

You need 3

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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It just is

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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I got 2

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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🙄

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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xD

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Its an enum 🙂

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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you're an enum

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Maybe if Java could do

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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I had 5, but deleted 4 (well some still need to be deleted)

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Optional.SOME(10)

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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disgusting

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:45 PM

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vs

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Option::Some(10)

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So much nicer

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I could probably just publish my debugging plugin and tell people not to download it as I won't be updating it

lunar cypress Aug 26, 2020, 12:45 PM

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meh

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:45 PM

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oh yes I need some expertises here

lunar cypress Aug 26, 2020, 12:45 PM

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the only thing you get from that is pattern matching and java can't do that

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other than that its functions are very similar

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:46 PM

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It can in 14 or something

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Kotlin can't do that

lunar cypress Aug 26, 2020, 12:46 PM

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not rust pattern matching

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enums are their own kinda thing

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:46 PM

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true

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But the syntax isn't ugly as hell unlike rust

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Hm when you unlock a premium plugin, can you delete the free plugins and still publish premium ones?

lunar cypress Aug 26, 2020, 12:47 PM

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lmao are you just shitposting yourself to premium perks?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Just make 3 clearchat plugins and never update them

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Ez

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:48 PM

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lmao are you just shitposting yourself to premium perks?
@lunar cypress I could, yeah

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Legit just upload some shitty projects

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Or smaller ones, it doesn't matter, just the count matters

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:48 PM

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I am designing a system that needs to look up details via multiple methods "LookupProvider"s. There may be more than 1 lookup provider. Some lookup provider that connect to internet may want to batch stuff (e.g make 1 single HTTP request with 10 lookups instead of 10 separate HTTP requests). This is fine and all but such thing as a "LookupPipeline" exists so that multiple pipelines may be combined if required. Not really sure the best way to design this will callbacks or something? the system I used had a blocking pipeline so Provider 1 would do its lookup and take like half a second on a Map<K, V> (the batch) and Provider 2 would lookup after Provider 1 is done. I guess that actually works fine to be honest but there might be some room for improvement.

for (provider in pipeline) {
provider.lookup(batch);
}

//all processed fine.

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:48 PM

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I am designing a system that needs to look up details via multiple methods "LookupProvider"s. There may be more than 1 lookup provider. Some lookup provider that connect to internet may want to batch stuff (e.g make 1 single HTTP request with 10 lookups instead of 10 separate HTTP requests). This is fine and all but such thing as a "LookupPipeline" exists so that multiple pipelines may be combined if required. Not really sure the best way to design this will callbacks or something? the system I used had a blocking pipeline so Provider 1 would do its lookup and take like half a second on a Map<K, V> (the batch) and Provider 2 would lookup after Provider 1 is done. I guess that actually works fine to be honest but there might be some room for improvement.

for (provider in pipeline) {
provider.lookup(batch);
}

//all processed fine.
@heady birch yes

onyx loom Aug 26, 2020, 12:49 PM

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free xp

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Classic

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:49 PM

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class Boop : JavaPlugin() {
    override fun onEnable() {
        System.out.println("maximum boopage activated.")
    }
}

My contribution to unlocking premium perks. The system totally works.

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Lol 2mb for a plugin that does nothing

hot hull Aug 26, 2020, 12:49 PM

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I am designing a system that needs to look up details via multiple methods "LookupProvider"s. There may be more than 1 lookup provider. Some lookup provider that connect to internet may want to batch stuff (e.g make 1 single HTTP request with 10 lookups instead of 10 separate HTTP requests). This is fine and all but such thing as a "LookupPipeline" exists so that multiple pipelines may be combined if required. Not really sure the best way to design this will callbacks or something? the system I used had a blocking pipeline so Provider 1 would do its lookup and take like half a second on a Map<K, V> (the batch) and Provider 2 would lookup after Provider 1 is done. I guess that actually works fine to be honest but there might be some room for improvement.

for (provider in pipeline) {
provider.lookup(batch);
}

//all processed fine.
@heady birch Cool

onyx loom Aug 26, 2020, 12:49 PM

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I am designing a system that needs to look up details via multiple methods "LookupProvider"s. There may be more than 1 lookup provider. Some lookup provider that connect to internet may want to batch stuff (e.g make 1 single HTTP request with 10 lookups instead of 10 separate HTTP requests). This is fine and all but such thing as a "LookupPipeline" exists so that multiple pipelines may be combined if required. Not really sure the best way to design this will callbacks or something? the system I used had a blocking pipeline so Provider 1 would do its lookup and take like half a second on a Map<K, V> (the batch) and Provider 2 would lookup after Provider 1 is done. I guess that actually works fine to be honest but there might be some room for improvement.

for (provider in pipeline) {
provider.lookup(batch);
}

//all processed fine.
@heady birch yes

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:50 PM

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The system is currently great. One of the greatest that exist. There is room for improvement. Not much though. Maybe a bit. It is already a great system. Great. If anyone... anyone. has any improvements I am happy to take these up. In fact I will be more than happy. Really happy. Thank you for taking the time to read my issue and I hope it find you well

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:50 PM

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how does one do multiple lookups with a single request?

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Lol 2mb for a plugin that does nothing
@prisma wave it activates maximum boopage, wdym?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:51 PM

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I would suggest you write in clojure to boost the size up to 5mb

empty flint Aug 26, 2020, 12:51 PM

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The system is currently great. One of the greatest that exist. There is room for improvement. Not much though. Maybe a bit. It is already a great system. Great. If anyone... anyone. has any improvements I am happy to take these up. In fact I will be more than happy. Really happy. Thank you for taking the time to read my issue and I hope it find you well
@heady birch Are you a spigot dev or wdym by "take it up"?

onyx loom Aug 26, 2020, 12:51 PM

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:clojuremoon:

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:51 PM

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🥴

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:52 PM

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guess what I've just managed to do

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:52 PM

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Clojure

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?

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:52 PM

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nope, get an NPE from Kotlin code

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:52 PM

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🙄

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Y'all really scared of a good old NPE

tacit cave Aug 26, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Jotlin

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Clotlin

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:54 PM

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I got an NPE from Kotlin code

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and it's a Java NPE, not a Kotlin NPE

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Sounds like a you problem

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 12:54 PM

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probably is tbh

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Multiple lookups with a single request: The service I'm connecting to do a multiple lookup accepts some form data. It is a dated service but Nice. One of the nicest systems to work with. Such request parameter might look like values=000000+000001+000002. There may be a lot of this values. Not loads but a lot. A decent amount, You could say anywhere between 1-100. Although its likely to be 1-5 the majority of the time. So not many. It would only reach higher numbers as the program startups. So the api service will return json data with each of the corresponding values sent in the form data, that is the the form data I have mentioned above. The response may be large. But not really large. Not large enough for any compression but still relatively large. Again that depends on the data being requested.

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 12:56 PM

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this has transcended irony

heady birch Aug 26, 2020, 12:57 PM

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What is the irony? Too many people making accusations without backing up their claims these days. If there is irony prove it. Or you could answer my question... I put a lot of effort into detailing the issue and outlining several important points of which you have requested, just to respond with "this has transcended irony" I am unhappy. Not angry just disappointed. But I can assure you I will not let this effect my general view on you or my perspective of the world. Thank you

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Trump

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 1:05 PM

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@prisma wave since when could a non-null value in Kotlin become null and throw an NPE?

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 1:05 PM

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reflection

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java interop

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platform types

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 1:06 PM

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platform types? what are those?

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also it's literally passed through the constructor

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 1:06 PM

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like String!

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 1:07 PM

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it's passed through the constructor as Lavalink<*>

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https://bin.bardy.me/4CrTltbw.cs getNode(selectIfAbsent: Boolean) is causing it

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at node = lavalink.loadBalancer.determineBestSocket(guildId)

prisma wave Aug 26, 2020, 1:08 PM

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yikes

jovial warren Aug 26, 2020, 1:08 PM

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lavalink is null apparently, according to debugging

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and I did some debugging before that point and there's literally 0 reason at all why lavalink should ever be null

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I literally debugged where that's created, which is at override fun buildNewLink(guildId: String) = JDALink(this, guildId), and I evaluated this, and it told me that it was fine