both are mutable
#dev-general
jovial warren
I should just scrap JS and use Kotlin/JS instead
whether I could actually use Vue with Kotlin/JS is another story though lol
prisma wave
js arrays are basically ArrayLists or HashMaps based on the runtime
jovial warren
I'm 3 exercises in and I'm already regretting it
empty flint
Right, nvm both are mutable
empty flint
I remember there was immutable arrays as well tho
w/e JS is not as strict as you might be used to from Java and Kotlin and it's the most popular programming language in the world at the moment so it's definitely worth learning
and learning it well. the curve is very steep
jovial warren
yeah that's what confuses me the most about JS
prisma wave
I'd say js is one of the easiest languages to learn
empty flint
I'd say js is one of the easiest languages to learn
@prisma wave I'd say it's one of the harder ones to master though
jovial warren
how tf people from the same species as me actually chose this language over all the other options
empty flint
but maybe that's just me
old wyvern
how tf people from the same species as me actually chose this language over all the other options
Web development my guy
onyx loom
how tf people from the same species as me actually chose this language over all the other options
@jovial warren @ funnycube 🌝
jovial warren
yeah but originally, somebody must've actually reviewed the language and said "yeah, that's a good idea to use as the standard for all web development"
empty flint
how tf people from the same species as me actually chose this language over all the other options
@jovial warren It's supported byallmost web browsers and the internet is the center of commerce in this day and age.
So yeah, money is the driving force in this case.
jovial warren
as I said, the nowaday reasons aren't my concern
empty flint
it's funny actually, do you guys know the story of why JS got the prefix "Java"?
jovial warren
it's the fact that somebody actually decided that making JS the standard was even remotely a good idea
nope, but I'm sure you're gonna tell us
prisma wave
to popularise of the java hypetrain iirc
also I don't think anyone officially made it the standard
it just became it
jovial warren
Java™️ HypeTrain™️? what™️?
prisma wave
after all Java applets and VBScript were also pretty popular back in the day
when java came out it got extremely popular really quickly
jovial warren
probably because it was the first attempt at a universal language that was actually successful
old wyvern
Mocha -> LiveScript -> JavaScript
empty flint
Back in the early 2000s, Sun spent $500 mil on marketing just for the Java programming language because they wanted C++ developers to switch and make them more popular.
old wyvern
probably because it was the first attempt at a universal language that was actually successful
@jovial warren
Excuse me?
Java was and still is pretty big
prisma wave
fun fact
jovial warren
and? I'm saying that was probably the original reason for it's growth
prisma wave
the first attempt at a universal language was actually clojure
empty flint
The guy that got the task to develop a script language for the browser then got told by his boss he has to put java in the name to utilize the java hypetrain and just associate with the language that got 500 mil shoved down its marketing budget throat. The guy said fuck it, idc, I'll name it JavaScript then
prisma wave
rich hickey single handedly revolutionized the programming market
empty flint
the first attempt at a universal language was actually clojure
@prisma wave I would actually say it was arabic, back when civilisations began forming
jovial warren
I'd say WORA is what made Java popular any day
prisma wave
by making a single language that would run on any machine
empty flint
or persian
jovial warren
@prisma wave that title belongs to James Gosling and his team of programmers at Sun
jovial warren
you mad?
empty flint
@empty flint yeah but does arabic have parentheses
@prisma wave No, but it has s̷͒͐o̷͜͝m̵̐̚é̴̈ ̸̒̉ẅ̸́̇e̸͒͋ḯ̶̉r̵̎̄d̸̐̃ ̶̈́͛a̷͌͗ś̶͆s̸̚͠ ̷̓̏c̶͋̚ḧ̷́̌ȁ̴́r̷̉͘a̴͇͗ċ̸̽t̴́̍e̷̍̾r̵̈́́s̴̈́̏ ̶̀̚t̴̉̇h̴͗͊à̵̾ẗ̶͒ ̶́͌s̵̾͠ư̶̇m̶͌̔m̴̉͌o̶̒̌n̵͌̃ ̶̛́C̵̍̚t̶̉̓ḣ̵̎ư̵̌l̵͒̕ù̸̿ ̴̓́w̶̏̏h̵͂͒ể̸n̵̎͛ ̵̀spoken...
prisma wave
clojure was the first programming language
jovial warren
Clojure was made in 2007
normal talon
I was made in 2001
prisma wave
the first programming language
jovial warren
Java came out in 1995
prisma wave
I'd like to see a source for that
jovial warren
Wikipedia
normal talon
1995 Java was originally developed by James Gosling at Sun Microsystems (which has since been acquired by Oracle) and released in 1995 as a core component of Sun Microsystems' Java platform.
jovial warren
boom
prisma wave
you can't trust anything on wikipedia
jovial warren
@prisma wave I knew that was the BS you'd come out with
prisma wave
am i wrong tho
jovial warren
yes, you are
jovial warren
they have bots constantly monitoring it
empty flint
you can't trust anything on wikipedia
@prisma wave Yeah, the biggest collection of all human knowledge does not have one single shred of credibility as far as Clojure is concerned.
prisma wave
Quite.
onyx loom
where is ur clojure source from
jovial warren
anything that is even a little bit stupid gets reverted
onyx loom
wikipedia too?
onyx loom
dont trust anything from rich
prisma wave
i would trust anything from rich
jovial warren
you don't know Rich Hickey personally
onyx loom
😐
prisma wave
I do
old wyvern
What if....
jovial warren
he told me
I call bull shit
old wyvern
@old wyvern if...
@jovial warren if....
normal talon
jovial warren
I wouldn't lie to you guys
https://tenor.com/bgQ7T.gif
prisma wave
is fake
empty flint
@prisma wave Can't trust shit on Wikipedia, I agree...
jovial warren
probably is tbh
prisma wave
yeah that's untrustworthy
jovial warren
most advanced doesn't mean best though
prisma wave
that's where you're wrong
clojure can do anything
everybody just can't accept the truth 🙄
empty flint
clojure can do anything
@prisma wave Except beat JS as the most popular programming language today
prisma wave
well Java/Kotlin can't do that either
onyx loom
js isnt the most popular?
jovial warren
yes it is
onyx loom
since when
jovial warren
no idea
normal talon
today
jovial warren
it's been the most popular for some time now
normal talon
what the hell is Clojure
jovial warren
though some sources used to say Python was the most popular
onyx loom
yeah thats what i thought was most popular
empty flint
js isnt the most popular?
@onyx loom It is, dunno since when tho
prisma wave
what the hell ISN'T clojure?
onyx loom
cozy, its nothing. get it out of ur head
jovial warren
Clojure is a lisp-based JVM language @normal talon
prisma wave
clojure was the first programming language
jovial warren
from what I've heard and seen
normal talon
oh and isnt this language he same as java/kotlin
prisma wave
and the most powerful at parallelism
normal talon
cozy, its nothing. get it out of ur head
sad
prisma wave
people try to conceal the truth
they are afraid
the media is afraid
jeff bezos himself is scared of clojure
normal talon
im not afraid of anything expect the sandels of my father
normal talon
I cant do java or kotlin how im supposed to do clojure
onyx loom
thats just a straight up lie
onyx loom
normal talon
can u code a mc plugin with it and in intelij
onyx loom
yeah.....
empty flint
The thing is that most people using Java, Kotlin, Python or whatever usually know JavaScript as well so naturally JS would beat them all
normal talon
I love hacks
prisma wave
let's think about it:
java / kotlin have lots of different symbols for different tasks - for, val, fun, =, (), {}, [], ,, extends, !!, ?:, etc
clojure has like 6 symbols in the entire language - [], (), ', and :
therefore clojure is easier to learn
case closed
have a nice day
onyx loom
normal talon
how do I use clojure with intelij
onyx loom
u dont
prisma wave
cursive plugin
static zealot
that doesn't actually make sense because if you have just 6 you have to learn where you sue which which is harder
normal talon
but didnt u like suck kotlin all the time Clojure
normal talon
but with fewer symbols you can do less than more symbols
static zealot
Cozy don't mind him. His personalities keep getting crazier every day. I recommend you go Java first then others
normal talon
oke mistr
prisma wave
usually with less syntax
static zealot
because with java you actually have lots and lots of tutorials and examples
especially when it comes to spigot and bukkit api
normal talon
well I turned 19 and learning is something i cant do anymore
normal talon
Ongeveer 496.000 resultaten (0,46 seconden)
empty flint
there are only a few symbols
@prisma wave Bruh. In JavaScript you can write any code using only the symbols[]()!+.
normal talon
Blitz im 1 day older than u xd
empty flint
Can't beat that
prisma wave
yes you can
onyx loom
🙄
jovial warren
@empty flint how are HTML and CSS on that list? they're not even programming languages
prisma wave
in clojure you can write any code using only the symbols []():'
old wyvern
but didnt u like suck kotlin all the time Clojure
Its just a meme 🤷♂️
prisma wave
don't disrespect my passions
normal talon
hes 16 guys
empty flint
@empty flint how is HTML/CSS on that list? they're not even programming languages
@jovial warren Idk I just googled
normal talon
passions
static zealot
Yugi I start thinking he actually has multiple personalities
old wyvern
Yea possibly, every month a new one is released
static zealot
like if it was a meme/joke this went very very far
onyx loom
whats next?
old wyvern
Next month we get js mitten
normal talon
I will use html for plugin coding
old wyvern
xD
old wyvern
yes
jovial warren
HTML is a markup language, suggested by the name, and CSS is a style sheet language (according to Wikipedia), also suggested by its name
old wyvern
HOLY
normal talon
angry mitten
prisma wave
:clojurewave:
normal talon
lol
static zealot
gn
normal talon
its 10 pm gn
onyx loom
ciao
static zealot
I've been spending my last 3 hours grouping minecraft materials on categories :((( I think I grouped over 100 materials
empty flint
https://hastebin.com/ufiqucekuc.md
Copy that JS code into the console of your browser (CTRL+SHIFT+i in Chrome) to see the magic happen
normal talon
sad
prisma wave
bro
how do you make a module in intellij
but with more modules
i don't get it
doesn't work
static zealot
is there a way in IIJ to see how long lits are? Like a console or soemthing I don't want to build the plugin launch the server etc. to see the length
normal talon
i cant copy it
prisma wave
want it dead
jovial warren
@static zealot lits?
static zealot
oh that's sad
prisma wave
¯_(ツ)_/¯
static zealot
huh?
normal talon
yea idk
prisma wave
zip bomb
No
Other one.
What's it called
Unix bomb
Boom
RM -rf
you know what i mean
fork bomb
that's it
static zealot
question player.isFlying checks to see if the player is actually flying when the check is made. What is the check to see if a player has his flight activated only?
oh could it be allowFlight
hmm time to check spigot
empty flint
@empty flint nothing happens
@normal talon Weird, works for me
try scrolling to the bottom
static zealot
I mean he did not skroll
normal talon
ooh wew
prisma wave
ok sure kotlin good but have you guys ever tried scala
i've been setting up sbt for the past 30 minutes
it's great
onyx loom
i swear u said scala is shit urself
onyx loom
its powerful
ocean quartz
That's one of the paper's devs
jovial warren
ok sure kotlin good but have you guys ever tried scala
here we go again...
onyx loom
Scala Mitten
prisma wave
not really
winter iron
When I ran the plugin fresh, it worked
but on server reload/restart
it wouldnt load classes
so didnt work
😦
winter iron
Im guessing it works fine with Java right?
winter iron
Xd
winter iron
"working"
prisma wave
scala is pretty similar to kotlin
onyx loom
now get pdm working pls 😦
distant sun
Someone make an iij plugin for maven local repo install with an UI, thanks.
obtuse gale
I really don't find any language better. If I need to code in one I just do
prisma wave
sorry to hear that
obtuse gale
Obviously each language has its own category of work and some perform better in some circumstances but like I don't mind switching I just need to learn the basic syntax and that's it
Although I will always have hate towards assembly haha I mean I had a year in school where we did just that with one professor, never again please
prisma wave
nope
prisma wave
pretty much
heady birch
@heady birch Do you have one?
@ocean quartz Yeah
Well no
Its not really a serializer
Just a IChatBaseComponent factory generating thing
ocean quartz
Can you show me?
ocean quartz
Oof sounds complicated to use reflection to do that
heady birch
Wouldn't using reflection slow it down?
I guess you dont wanna make seperate updates just for new nms versions though
ocean quartz
I guess it wouldn't be too hard to do that just a bit annoying
But yeah reflection is much slower
steel heart
prisma wave
steel heart
I mean yeah and we don’t want an angry review section complaining about silly errors like new nms versions
prisma wave
steel heart
Lol
onyx loom
i mean its basic
onyx loom
oh yeah and that
prisma wave
ye
onyx loom
big ew
prisma wave
how u get it working
had to use local repository for spigot api
the build tool was the problem
anyway
clojure time
steel heart
jovial warren
more like Kotlin time
jovial warren
shut your mouth little kid (that's a reference you won't understand)
prisma wave
@lunar cypress with your spigot lein template, am I being really dumb or does it not register the command at all?
lunar cypress
Doesn't it work?
prisma wave
idk haven't tested
but it doesn't seem to register the command at all
not sure if that's a problem or not
lunar cypress
The default executor for commands is the plugin instance
prisma wave
@lunar cypress ```clojure
(ns clojure-plugin.command
(:gen-class
:name clojure_plugin.ClojureCommand
:implements [org.bukkit.command.CommandExecutor])
(:import (org.bukkit.command CommandSender)
(org.bukkit.entity Player)
(org.bukkit ChatColor)))
(defn color [s]
(ChatColor/translateAlternateColorCodes & s))
(defn -onCommand [this ^CommandSender sender _ _ _]
(if (instance? Player sender)
(.kickPlayer sender (color "&cClojure is just too strong, sorry.")))
(if (not (instance? Player sender))
(.sendMessage sender "Only players can experience Clojure...")))
you got any idea why this might npe? it's probably also super messy. Can't tell which line is causing the NPE unfortunatelythat is just so disgusting
prisma wave
Lol
prisma wave
Java interop is not particularly idiomatic
we out here trying to use OOP in a Functional language
prisma wave
it's no extension functions
But it's pretty clean yeah
Idk
It's probably really awful since I couldn't figure out a better alternative for instanceof
onyx loom
is
prisma wave
😔
lunar cypress
Hmm
gusty fulcrum
whats the best way to make a explode/throw effect on a group of players that are in the same location? each player would get thrown in a different direction but the same amount of distance?
lunar cypress
Could you send the exact error @prisma wave
And for the if not... thing you could just use the else branch of the first if
shut swan
is there any tutorial on how to configure voteparty and nuvotifier for bungeecord?
prisma wave
Also, turned pc off now but it was just something like ClojureCommand(Unknown Line)
Ah
Sorry that's not much information to go on lol
lunar cypress
No right now I don't see a possible cause
surreal quarry
@shut swan #general-plugins #general-plugins-2
prisma wave
yeah me neither
It might have even been a problem with the compilation process, when I looked it resolved some nullable Var
prisma wave
Yes
prisma wave
You definitely get kicked, can't confirm if the message is sent since I didn't check
ohh
And it should return true/false instead
Ofc
I'll test in the morning
ty
lunar cypress
Yeah, nil to primitive results in npe
prisma wave
Makes sense
ocean quartz
A lot of caching and reflection is speedy now
split talon
Lmao
tacit cave
Hello
Can someone help me to fix intellij?
I've tried to search it to google
And tried to fix it..
Why my intellij idea 2020.2
Stucking at check url?
Like literally I added a new Remote/Git
It will stuck forever
Feel free to tag me
obtuse gale
Anyone got an example of using SRP in a plugin? Like I get the base idea, but should I seperate loading comamnds and listeners into multiple classes, then just call that onEnable or what?
onyx loom
if uve got many listeners and commands then yeah seperate them
obtuse gale
yeah but should i be seperating like actually registering the commands into a seperate class?
Like a CommandManager or CommandHandler class or something
onyx loom
if uve got many listeners and commands then yeah seperate them
@onyx loom
tacit cave
Pls answer my question
ocean quartz
Interesting, my parser is faster and slower than mini's (more slower than faster) xD
Also different gradient handling
surreal quarry
i think the grdaient that goes across all the words is better
cause if you want it on each word, you can just set it for each word
lunar cypress
If you want to optimise a lot of reflection with the same methods, consider using MethodHandles instead @ocean quartz
empty flint
@ocean quartz what James said
empty flint
Does anybody know a good illustrator that does something in this style:
The original illustrator of those images went offline for the past couple of weeks and stopped responding :/
distant sun
I think he's on holiday
hot hull
Niall, 2nd
steel heart
Yeah sure (:
distant sun
As in?
heady birch
String, int so i guess its just count of each item
old wyvern
O.o
heady birch
Nice
hot hull
Well what does the plugin do Km
obtuse gale
bm help pdm broken :(( https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/165129131770511360/746660080296001587
prisma wave
Yeah Johnny made an issue
obtuse gale
ah alright
prisma wave
pretty sure I know what the problem is
also does anyone have one of those fancy gradient classes I can use
distant sun
Matt has one on his messages lib
distant sun
Any way I can turn the hex from item names to the format I use on config? I cant seem to be able to match §x§r§r§g§g§b§b using regex
hot hull
§
heady birch
final List<Group> groupList = new ArrayList<>(groupManager.getRegisteredGroups());
groupList.sort(Comparator.comparing(Group::getName));
Is this bad
Cos API returns Collection
I could change it to list but do I want to?
distant sun
Dont return collection 
heady birch
Meh well this is really the only place I need it sorted
Please specify a valid page number between 1 and 1
Hmmmmm
English experts whats a better way of putting this
distant sun
page index?
prisma wave
there's nothing wrong with that?
prisma wave
1
onyx loom
big brain
obtuse gale
Please specify 1 as the page number
onyx loom
ew dont do that
hot hull
Please fuck off, we don't want you here, there's only 1 page bitch
prisma wave
You specified 3 as the page number, which doesn't exist, so we'll use 1 instead. Idiot.
old wyvern
prisma wave
lmao
heady birch
Lol
steel heart
@static zealot if its ur birthday then huge congratulations
static zealot
ty ty
meager cairn
So I need to cancel a task, but I don't want to store it in a variable and cancel it, because it will not working. I'm currently using BukkitRunnable and happy with the result. I'm just curious, can I cancel the task with method cancel() like this when use Bukkit.getScheduler().runTimerTask?
new BukkitRunnable() {
@Override
public void run() {
//...
cancel();
}
}
well here's the deal. the first long parameter schedules a delayed task and after that the task itself will scheduler a new task with a delay of the second long parameter but it will have the same id and some other data shared between all those tasks. Ideally once #cancel() is called no more repeating tasks should be called after the one that #cancel() was called in albeit the code will still run fully so #cancel() doesn't have a functionality like return;.
if I got that right
empty flint
Is it possible to tell Kotlin that a certain class has a finite, known set of instances so that when I use the when(...) condition, it counts as exhaustive?
I can't declare them as enums
empty flint
I am using a sealed class, that's exhaustive in terms of the classes they can be, not the instances
and enums can't inherit from a sealed class
can you tell the when clause that the list IS exhausted instead of adding an unnecessary else?
prisma wave
I don't think so
empty flint
what's an English word for something that has an attribute? Attribute holder? Attribute owner? what do I call this thing?
heady birch
AttributeMe
ocean quartz
@lunar cypress Yeah i heard about MethodHandles before, i might use it
Though i cache a good amount of reflection steps
Only thing i can't cache right now is the constructor because nms keeps changing
final Object packet;
if (ServerVersion.CURRENT_VERSION == ServerVersion.V1_8_R3) {
packet = CHAT_PACKET.getConstructor(CHAT_COMPONENT).newInstance(CHAT_SERIALIZER_METHOD.invoke(null, message));
} else if (ServerVersion.CURRENT_VERSION.isColorLegacy()) {
packet = CHAT_PACKET.getConstructor(CHAT_COMPONENT, CHAT_TYPE).newInstance(CHAT_SERIALIZER_METHOD.invoke(null, message), Enum.valueOf(CHAT_TYPE, "CHAT"));
} else {
packet = CHAT_PACKET.getConstructor(CHAT_COMPONENT, CHAT_TYPE, UUID.class).newInstance(CHAT_SERIALIZER_METHOD.invoke(null, message), Enum.valueOf(CHAT_TYPE, "CHAT"), player.getUniqueId());
}
Could probably still cache it but i'd need to change a few things
hot hull
Shitty ass NMS
ocean quartz
Could definitely be done better but for now it's not terrible
ocean quartz
Trying with MethodHandles now, let's see how it goes
lunar cypress
MethodHandles should bring you benefits with hot code
hot hull
@heady birch Can you not..
hot hull
:kek:
prisma wave
Over 2 billion tiktokers use Java
old wyvern
😂
empty flint
Another 500mil marketing campaign to make Java the most popular language in the world
Actually I think tiktok might be worth more than 500mil. Does anybody know?
prisma wave
it's probably worth a lot more than that
old wyvern
Dont think it has anything to do with Java
old wyvern
hot hull
Over 2 billion tiktokers use Java
Over 2 billion tiktokers use Kotlin
empty flint
How do I do something like when(integer) { (< 0) -> "smaller than 0" else ... }
prisma wave
2 options
when {
integer < 0 -> blah
}
when(integer) {
compareTo(0) == -1 -> blah
}```both should work I think
empty flint
but... why?!
prisma wave
Why not
hot hull
He asked the question wether he could, but forgot to ask the question, wether he should
hot hull
disgusting, GradientHandler is in java
ocean quartz
Well, technically you're stealing from Nicole xD
empty flint
If it's open source it's called appropriating charity
not stealing
Also, it's interesting that you could even steal something virtual since stealing implies that the victim you stole from doesn't have the thing you took anymore
prisma wave
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hot hull
Also, it's interesting that you could even steal something virtual since stealing implies that the victim you stole from doesn't have the thing you took anymore
big br0in moves
empty flint
Another Kotlin question because I'm not used to this kind of programming style and would do it in the Java way:
How do I pop a stack n times and put all elements in an array using a oneliner?
I know I can use for loop to pop n times, I can use repeat {} etc
but idk how to collect those elements in an array
empty flint
create one
that's the problem
create and populate in the same line
with n elements
essentially getting n elements as a vararg from a for loop or whatever
old wyvern
Array<YourType>(n) { stack.pop() }
You should probably make sure the stack has the n elements tho
@empty flint
hot hull
Sheesh
static zealot
huh whats that?
prisma wave
my latest project
hot hull
gh stats
onyx loom
this is clear evidence that kotlin > clojure
totally not because u have to do some fuckeries with clojure
lunar cypress
Still making a connect four plugin in clojure
It's getting quite interesting
Also, I just remembered this
https://github.com/duncte123/AllJVMLangs
Wanted to add clojure some time ago but somehow didn't manage it
prisma wave
Interesting
empty flint
IllegalArgumentException pertains to user input arguments and IllegalStateException is relevant when I fuck up, correct?
prisma wave
pretty much
lunar cypress
not necessarily
IllegalStateException isn't really when you screw up, it's still the user's fault
lunar cypress
or like when something has already been closed and you still try to use it
hot hull
Imagine if github had folders 😮
onyx loom
imagine
lunar cypress
🎵
prisma wave
steel heart
errant geyser
@ocean quartz 😍
old wyvern
ayy
ocean quartz
;p
prisma wave
31st
onyx loom
august?
old wyvern
yes
ocean quartz
I don't see Elara there
frigid badge
disgusting
old wyvern
😂
hot hull
@old wyvern You make me cry
empty flint
@ocean quartz 😍
@errant geyser What does that mean?
old wyvern
Matt stared the repo
empty flint
Is there a way to use NMS reliably without depending on all those shitty versioned classpaths?
old wyvern
Reflection
errant geyser
Indeed not, unless you wanna use reflection, or the X series has some stuff to help with that
empty flint
What's the X series?
old wyvern
ocean quartz
I mean xseries won't do nms
old wyvern
mhm
errant geyser
Its useful for handling some differences across versions though
Also why does the embed have the Kali Linux logo 
empty flint
Guess I'm gonna have to have an NMS lib then 🙃
Or actually, is there a way to get an item from a JSON string without using NMS?
ocean quartz
You could easily make a method for that with gson
empty flint
that would mean I'd have to parse it myself which I want to not do under almost any circumstance
ocean quartz
Or you could use yaml instead of json and use spigot's yaml serializer
empty flint
Can you point me to the spigot api that does that?
ocean quartz
The encode and decode item functions
https://github.com/ipsk/TriumphPets/blob/development/common/src/main/kotlin/me/mattstudios/triumphpets/util/Utils.kt#L61
Remove the base64 and you have a yaml like structure
before anyone asks, this is old class i don't use anymore, no utils in kt
prisma wave
🤮
empty flint
@ocean quartz
This is the nms-serialization:
{id:"minecraft:diamond_sword",Count:1b,tag:{PublicBukkitValues:{"blockydebug:custom-sword-key":3.141592653589793d},Damage:1000,display:{Name:'{"extra":[{"bold":false,"italic":false,"underlined":false,"strikethrough":false,"obfuscated":false,"color":"gold","text":"SWORD!!!"}],"text":""}'}}}
This is from the spigot yml serialisation:
ItemStack{DIAMOND_SWORD x 1, UNSPECIFIC_META:{meta-type=UNSPECIFIC, display-name=§6SWORD!!!, Damage=1000, PublicBukkitValues={blockydebug:custom-sword-key=3.141592653589793d}}}
any idea how to get the nms one without nms?
(and reverse it)
ocean quartz
Hmm i don't really know, sorry
Hmmm java.lang.NoSuchMethodException: no such constructor: net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R2.PacketPlayOutChat.<init>(IChatBaseComponent,ChatMessageType,UUID)PacketPlayOutChat/newInvokeSpecial
I love this
Oh
So apparently the "return type" of a constructor is void .-.
distant sun
Tf
ocean quartz
Yup
LOOKUP.findConstructor(CHAT_PACKET, MethodType.methodType(void.class, CHAT_COMPONENT, CHAT_TYPE, UUID.class)).invoke(CHAT_SERIALIZER.invoke(message), Enum.valueOf(CHAT_TYPE, "CHAT"), player.getUniqueId());
hm
Gson().toJson(itemStack) results in a stack overflow error. lmao
Has anybody else successfully serialized stuff with Gson?
steel heart
send the stacktrace?
foggy pond
onyx loom
lmao
empty flint
send the stacktrace?
@steel heart I mean there's not much of a stacktrace since it's a stackoverflow.
=haste
compact perchBOT
empty flint
there u go @steel heart
It seems as though this might be an issue with jdk though
Can somebody else try this code?
Gson gson = new Gson();
String json = gson.toJson(itemInHand.serialize());
System.out.println(json);
And let me know if it works?
Any itemstack will do
split talon
@ocean quartz I thought constructors return value was in machine code
jovial warren
@split talon constructors don't have a return value wdym
split talon
Not to the user but they technically do
steel heart
Its basically a void method which is invoked when creating a new object
jovial warren
oh yeah ofc it is
steel heart
Although it returns its type when invoking it
jovial warren
yeah
I think you can see that present in Kotlin with the generated invoke method, though don't quote me on that
ocean quartz
I thought the return would be itself (the class) at least made more sense
jovial warren
I think (internally at least), it's calling a generated invoke method or something
nvm me I'm just talking out of my ass lol
and I swear if a single one of you says something along the lines of "don't worry, we're used to that by now" or "isn't that what you do all the time?"
empty flint
@distant sun have you tried calling return in a constructor? 😉
distant sun
mkay
jovial warren
@empty flint you can't return within a constructor scope because it's not a scope of which has a return value
distant sun
Cant return a value*
jovial warren
you can't return whatsoever afaik
prisma wave
you can
distant sun
^
prisma wave
public ClassName() {
this.x = 3;
return;
}```@prisma wave what tf is that username
jovial warren
We found him lads! Look! It's Captain Obvious!
jovial warren
get a silly answer
frigid badge
basically his name is saying Java is number 1
prisma wave
yeah
distant sun
Mitten and kotlin have the same length btw
steel heart
Alex what order is the languages?
jovial warren
@frigid badge get outta here
prisma wave
uh
distant sun
Ikr lemmo
hot hull
Blasphemy KM
jovial warren
@distant sun you too
distant sun
Ladies first
frigid badge
distant sun
^
prisma wave
wow
steel heart
lmaoo
hot hull
You trully fucked yourself there KM..
steel heart
Factitious
jovial warren
you literally walked straight in to that one @prisma wave
steel heart
Epic
prisma wave
no real loss there
distant sun
Ew
hot hull
Such terrifying times KM
distant sun
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hot hull
Can't wait to tell the kid in #general-plugins to leave
hot hull
Boi
distant sun
2008*
hot hull
Life was better 4billion BC
prisma wave
this generation is truly lost
distant sun
Or when the fuck k 🤢 tlin was invented
hot hull
Bruh Gaby
distant sun
Nty
hot hull
Tough talk for a fella within crusading distance @distant sun
jovial warren
Or when the fuck k 🤢 tlin was invented
@distant sun you on crack or some shit?
idk what kinda rock you been living under lol
distant sun
Kinda hungry but no
prisma wave
try a wholesome meal of clojure on toast
distant sun
Sounds gross
prisma wave
it's wholesome
distant sun
And ive seen kotlin
old wyvern
jovial warren
pretty much every popular JVM language is better than Java because they all have Java as an example of what not to do
prisma wave
does that include clojure?
jovial warren
idk
prisma wave
I'll take that
jovial warren
probably
prisma wave
if java is so good then why isnt there a java 2
hot hull
Cause, 3 billion devices run Java 
jovial warren
@prisma wave Java is on like version 14 or something
no idea what kinda rock you been living under
hot hull
It's slowly turning into kotlin
hot hull
Like 200 years away, but slowly
jovial warren
It's slowly turning into kotlin
@hot hull that is true
prisma wave
ok tbf pattern matching > when expressions
hot hull
Just delete java and use kotlin
prisma wave
you dont get that with kotlin
jovial warren
the additions of type inference, records, project loom, and many other things are slowly pushing Java towards Kotlin
I mean, Java does have Kotlin as an example of what is good
old wyvern
Are you sure Java didnt do some of those before kotlin
jovial warren
@prisma wave they're fibers, but fundamentally they operate the same way don't they?
hot hull
Are you sure Java didnt do some of those before kotlin
@old wyvern Yes, Java Bad.
old wyvern
No bard
old wyvern
Coroutines arent same as that
Current coroutines in kotlin arent really a thing during runtime in a sense
Compiler magic
jovial warren
old wyvern
Kotlin Coroutines != Coroutines from other languages
jovial warren
I thought Kotlin coroutines were still actual coroutines
old wyvern
They cant
JVM doesnt have that till project loom
Kotlin only has anything that would be available to Java or the other JVM lamguages
Once project loom is out
prisma wave
loom would probably be faster since it's lower level
prisma wave
also sealed interfaces in java are cool
jovial warren
sealed interfaces?
prisma wave
and pattern matching with instanceof
sealed classes but with interfaces
and probably with a bytecode impl
compared to only a compiler impl with kotlin
jovial warren
does Kotlin not support sealed interfaces?
old wyvern
Kotlin is basically Java with some syntax sugar
prisma wave
nope
old wyvern
@jovial warren doesnt exists as sealed classes after compile
A lot of background changes happen
Like internal modifier changing names
jovial warren
also how do sealed classes in Kotlin actually work btw? I mean ik they have a known amount of subclasses or whatever, but in Java you have this permits keyword apparently, something I've never seen in Kotlin
prisma wave
just compiler checks
they can't be anything fancier than that bc it's not supported in the bytecode
they compile to completely normal classes
old wyvern
Mhm
jovial warren
isn't the whole point of sealed classes to make the subclasses a class has known to the parent?
prisma wave
not exactly
old wyvern
No
prisma wave
it's to restrict the amount of subclasses to a known set
jovial warren
ah okay
old wyvern
Ooo project valhalla
So objects with contain the values instead of references to the contained data?
prisma wave
I think so
old wyvern
From what I read its supposed to act like c structs
prisma wave
idk I guess they would be faster
Maybe you could get the speed of a primitive but with higher level access or something
Not sure tbh
old wyvern
Hmm true
prisma wave
I guess they might be like kotlin's inline classes
old wyvern
But you wont be able to have a Object in a ValueType then right?
prisma wave
¯_(ツ)_/¯
old wyvern
Ah I guess compositions of primitives
Rip String
Wait C structs allow arrays
Ok maybe they do allow objects
lunar cypress
They do
old wyvern
ValueTypes?
lunar cypress
Yes
old wyvern
Oh, do you know what improvements it bring over classes?
prisma wave
yeah I think they are basically kotlin inline classes
Codes like a class works like an int.
old wyvern
Yea thats why I assumed it was to act like primitves
old wyvern
But should primitive like structures hold a reference tho?
lunar cypress
They are stored in consecutive memory iirc
old wyvern
Imma probably go read a bit more on this
prisma wave
yeah looks like it
old wyvern
Ah
lunar cypress
And i actually don't know whether objects are allowed, misspoke there
lunar cypress
But other value types a re allowed
old wyvern
I see
ocean quartz
Johnny, changed to use MethodHandles now, it's pretty speedy
lunar cypress
👍
lunar cypress
What's the encoded thingy
jovial warren
does inlining even work in Java?
jovial warren
well, I mean, Kotlin has it, so it's possible
prisma wave
ofc it's possible
old wyvern
Compiler magic
jovial warren
JVM magic
prisma wave
inlining is the compiler
jovial warren
yeah true
old wyvern
Mhm
jovial warren
I class JVM magic as anything where you can use regular code to modify bytecode at runtime (obviously not including things like changing a var's value lol)
old wyvern
What does this have to do with runtime bytecode manip?
jovial warren
¯_(ツ)_/¯
static zealot
yo I have a random question. How do you make those configs where you can add lists or something and you can take the entire list? I'm using ConfigMe
everyone does them but I never figured out how to do it
xD
prisma wave
can't you just make a property of type List<Blah>?
prisma wave
well iirc it's like ```java
@Config("path.here")
public static List<Blah> list;
ListProperty
empty flint
Is there a way to get the actual itemstack name, not the display name or the localized name?
prisma wave
wdym actual name?
steel heart
Material ?
empty flint
@steel heart material is not the same as the name. Especially with items whose name depends on the meta.
steel heart
yeah but then what is actual name for you?
default name is the localized one
else you have the material name
oak coyote
Material#getName()
empty flint
@oak coyote That returns the name of the material enum which isn't the name of the item
@steel heart when I print the localized name, I get an empty string
steel heart
thats weird
empty flint
Have you tried it?