wheres your final tho?
#dev-general
surreal quarry
onyx loom
true
surreal quarry
also the indentation again lmao
empty flint
method( a = a, b = b )```
@surreal quarry I ike that, kinda. It just seems unnecessary
pastel imp
bois how tf do I use ' in the lore in DM
onyx loom
atleast ur using allman too 
prisma wave
Using allman before I even knew what allman was ๐
prisma wave
Allman good
pastel imp
kinda sucks
prisma wave
@pastel imp #general-plugins pls
surreal quarry
yea i guess blocky but it also prevents errors for example if you thought your variable was a type its not, it won't compile
but if it just accepted anything, you could run into issues with that
prisma wave
There's no cleaner way of doing it really
It's the best way that will work in every situation consistently
surreal quarry
yea
onyx loom
int randomx = (int) (Math.random() * 100000); serious question, whats the (int) for?
empty flint
Allman is da wey
surreal quarry
its a cast
onyx loom
what does Math.random return?
empty flint
int randomx = (int) (Math.random() * 100000);serious question, whats the (int) for?
@onyx loom Math.random() probably returns a double
prisma wave
a double yeah
onyx loom
yea thats what im thinking
surreal quarry
yea im pretty sure its a double
onyx loom
ok makes sense then
surreal quarry
from 0 to 1 or something
onyx loom
i just thought u were casting it for no reason ๐
prisma wave
I wasn't that shit
empty flint
wait whats allman
@surreal quarry coding style
onyx loom
yea u cant disagree with that
prisma wave
You can distinguish where blocks start and end better
obtuse gale
yea u cant disagree with that
@onyx loom watch me
prisma wave
haters ๐
surreal quarry
i sorta like it for classes and stuff but like
if(player.hasPermission("knightzmc.heal"))
{
player.setHealth(20);
}
else
{
player.sendMessage(ChatColor.GOLD + "Sorry, you don't have permission to use " + ChatColor.GREEN + "/heal");
}```
just looks so much worse than
```java
if(player.hasPermission("knightzmc.heal")) {
player.setHealth(20);
} else {
player.sendMessage(ChatColor.GOLD + "Sorry, you don't have permission to use " + ChatColor.GREEN + "/heal");
}```
to meit is ugly and I hate it but it's effective in what it does. I use k&r because my work requires it and I don't want to mix ๐ฆ
'it' being Allmann
surreal quarry
idk i think its probably cause im not used to it
prisma wave
Yeah I guess
surreal quarry
like if i used it for a couple days i would get used to it
prisma wave
You do
ocean quartz
Personally i don't like it, i find it harder to figure what starts where
But i'll say, it look cleaner
empty flint
It makes it easier to fuck up indentation aparently ๐
prisma wave
Uh
onyx loom
how?
prisma wave
^
surreal quarry
its like the opposite lmao
surreal quarry
yea lmao
onyx loom
๐
empty flint
Allman only invented it to puff up his commited lines of code provemewrong
prisma wave
you could just hold down enter for ez money
onyx loom
you could just hold down enter for ez money
@prisma wave https://paste.helpch.at/odibajomem.java of which this is a perfect example ๐
prisma wave
Ahriwjabtienw
empty flint
you could just hold down enter for ez money
@prisma wave empty lines do not count afaik
prisma wave
:(
ocean quartz
hmm
surreal quarry
thats just my settings being weird i think
prisma wave
@onyx loom purge that
onyx loom
oops
prisma wave
Allman good my code from 2017 bad
onyx loom
public class KnightzMCRandomTP extends JavaPlugin{ u only have urself to blame. AJ was just following ur footsteps ๐ญ
empty flint
player.sendMessage(ChatColor.GOLD + "You were teleported to X: " + ChatColor.GREEN + randomx + ChatColor.GOLD + " Y: " + ChatColor.GREEN + randomy + ChatColor.GOLD + " Z: " + ChatColor.GREEN + randomz);
chonkers string concatenation holy moly
Why would you ever do that to the compiler?
surreal quarry
holy christ
quiet sierra
surreal quarry
blocky send that in a real code block with the java lang
prisma wave
๐
@empty flint I have no respect for the Java compiler
Not after what happened ๐ญ
onyx loom
๐ญ
onyx loom
nasty stuff ๐ญ
empty flint
blocky send that in a real code block with the java lang
@surreal quarry Bruh,ChatColor.applyWhateverTheFuckTheMethodIsCalled('&', "String with &6proper&r colorcodes"
empty flint
Not after what happened ๐ญ
@prisma wave What happened?
prisma wave
^
onyx loom
player.sendMessage(ChatColor.GOLD + "You were teleported to X: " + ChatColor.GREEN + randomx + ChatColor.GOLD + " Y: " + ChatColor.GREEN + randomy + ChatColor.GOLD + " Z: " + ChatColor.GREEN + randomz); ```no blocky i mean like ```
@surreal quarry Oh my bad. I misunderstood. Why does that matter tho?
onyx loom
@surreal quarry Bruh,
ChatColor.applyWhateverTheFuckTheMethodIsCalled('&', "String with &6proper&r colorcodes"
@empty flint translateAlternateColorCodes ๐
surreal quarry
you can specify a language with ```
empty flint
James gosling in human form came to my house and killed everyone
@prisma wave In human form as opposed to his goose form?
onyx loom
evil man
prisma wave
His other form is too horrible to mention
empty flint
syntax highlighting @empty flint
@prisma wave Whatever, that's not the point of my remark
surreal quarry
@ocean quartz ill give you $20 if you can find a way to implement code blocks into your markdown thing lmao
empty flint
James gosling in human form came to my house and killed everyone
@prisma wave And the first thing you did was decide to get back at him by writing disturbing amounts of terribly inefficient string concatenation and forcing the compiler to eat it like it's a fat starving kid at the fair and the code is a cake eating contest?
surreal quarry
that would be the only right thing to do in that situation
prisma wave
@empty flint precisely
My revenge plan was slow and elaborate. Step 1 was to torture the compiler, in hope of giving Java devs everywhere depression
empty flint
@ocean quartz ill give you $20 if you can find a way to implement code blocks into your markdown thing lmao
@surreal quarry I'll add another $20 if you can emulate discord in minecraft chat so we can actually share code with eachother while playing the game
My revenge plan was slow and elaborate. Step 1 was to torture the compiler, in hope of giving Java devs everywhere depression
@prisma wave Ah but you forgot one thing
prisma wave
What's that
empty flint
Java devs don't give a shit about your jvm instance 
prisma wave
If you wanna see my full tragic backstory here it is https://www.reddit.com/r/kotlinmemes/comments/hjldan/sounds_like_a_java_issue_to_me/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
empty flint
Mark my words
@prisma waveSkyClojurenet incoming?
prisma wave
you gotta boost
prisma wave
Piss off Barry
surreal quarry
barry a hoe
prisma wave
When clojure rules the world the first thing I will do is execute Barry
Wait no
James gosling first
Then Barry
empty flint
Barry who?
surreal quarry
good plan
prisma wave
the bot
empty flint
I got a friend named Barry
prisma wave
Hmmm
surreal quarry
@compact perch and your friend
empty flint
The bot is called barry?
prisma wave
He can go too
surreal quarry
we will end all barrys
prisma wave
Can't take any risks
empty flint
Idk man, Barry is a really nice guy
prisma wave
all Barry's will be purged under Clojurenet
surreal quarry
safety first
surreal quarry
first barry will give me a lot of xp
prisma wave
He could be a significant threat
surreal quarry
then we execute barry
empty flint
But... I like Barry ๐ฆ
empty flint
@empty flint then you'll be executed too ๐
@prisma wave What the fuck for?
prisma wave
Corroborating with a known Barry
empty flint
Also how is this in dev-general and not in off-topic?
surreal quarry
this is more of a dictatorial regime. if you don't agree with the plan, you become a part of the plan
prisma wave
^
onyx loom
im doing that in like 5 days anyways
@surreal quarry get that multi spin
empty flint
Corroborating with a known Barry
@prisma wave You mean collaborating?
prisma wave
Clojure already has a Benevolent Dictator, we just need to remove the "Benevolent"
Uh
empty flint
corroborating... my sides dude
surreal quarry
wdym kaliber
surreal quarry
do you get to do the multiplier thing when you boost
onyx loom
yes sir
empty flint
He's not a known barry though
quite a private guy, doesn't like to be in the public eye
surreal quarry
im gonna have to learn what boosting gives you cause i feel like theres a lot i don't know
empty flint
so he's not known, he's just barry
onyx loom
PUNCHED 3 JAVA USERS IN THE JAW TODAY. HELLA PROUD
still gets me every time
surreal quarry
lmaop
prisma wave
prisma wave
Welcome
empty flint
still gets me every time
@onyx loom Where is that from?
onyx loom
welcome
onyx loom
kotlinmemes subreddit
prisma wave
join
surreal quarry
r/kotlinmemes
surreal quarry
good sub
prisma wave
the best some would say
surreal quarry
LMAO
prisma wave
Some very clever people have said that it's the best subreddit, and you know, I think we should believe in them
onyx loom
ever thought about if u have job interview and they find ur reddit account bm ๐ฌ
prisma wave
I'm trying not to think about it
surreal quarry
honestly we are all praying that our social medias aren't found for jobs and college
onyx loom
eh i dont have any anyway so im fine
surreal quarry
what the
surreal quarry
https://www.reddit.com/r/kotlinmemes/comments/htkx77/in_honour_of_us_getting_funny_number_1_members/
the link you sent on that
onyx loom
clearly
surreal quarry
what a story
surreal quarry
lmao
onyx loom
the only perfect thing in this world is Kotlin you uncultured swine
empty flint
honestly we are all praying that our social medias aren't found for jobs and college
@surreal quarry Can't find something 17 year old me murdered so a chick I went on a bad date with couldn't stalk me ๐
prisma wave
This was the image btw
surreal quarry
impressive
surreal quarry
yes
onyx loom
it only happens once
surreal quarry
hopefully
onyx loom
u should delete this ๐ฌ
empty flint
This was the image btw
@prisma wave SumBody once told me, the world was gonna roll me
surreal quarry
lmaoo
prisma wave
empty flint
My dumb ass was legit looking for the lyrics in the image
because one word in it sounds similar to the beginning
onyx loom
https://www.reddit.com/r/kotlinmemes/comments/hz1dkn/kotlin/g19us00?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x someone finish this off pls k thx
empty flint
lmao
empty flint
val chad = Chad(). Beats null into submission on a daily basis.
I love this subreddit already
surreal quarry
im just glad we know when our lines end
surreal quarry
imagine
onyx loom
images u can hear
surreal quarry
should i vote Andrey
onyx loom
๐
prisma wave
vote whoever would win in a fight
surreal quarry
"Brian" lmao
onyx loom
brian do pretty strong tho ๐ณ
surreal quarry
brians getting clobbered rn
onyx loom
true
empty flint
@prisma wave Why does Kotlin actually let you do Map.put(...) instead of the [...] assignment?
prisma wave
why wouldn't it?
surreal quarry
you can do either
empty flint
idk IntelliJ always tells me to convert it to an assignment
I was just wondering why
empty flint
can you restrict varargs to be a set?
empty flint
I mean converting it doesn't make a difference there. I basically need varargs of key/value pairs and I want to add them to a map in my class
just wondering what would happen if the same key was entered twice
prisma wave
Good good
empty flint
hm if I add a secondary constructor with one more parameter, can I make that parameter not be part of the class?
Hm wait it is already so
what?
empty flint
class Log {
constructor(data: String) {
// code
}
constructor(data: String, numberOfData: Int) {
// code
}
}```what about this then?
prisma wave
what about it
empty flint
is numberOfData part of the class?
prisma wave
secondary constructors are parameters only
empty flint
so in the secondary constructor, can I call the primary constructor and add stuff?
prisma wave
Yes
empty flint
Like in java you can do
prisma wave
in kotlin it's kotlin constructor(blah) : this(blah.something)
empty flint
im not sure that's correct
yeah
ok
'that' being my java assumption
not sure how it went in java anymore
prisma wave
mhm
empty flint
it's been so long
ocean quartz
Or in that case it could also go like:
class Log(data: String, numberOfData: Int = 0)
And have a default value so it's not always required in the constructor nor need a second one
prisma wave
^
empty flint
Or in that case it could also go like:
class Log(data: String, numberOfData: Int = 0)And have a default value so it's not always required in the constructor nor need a second one
@ocean quartz That's directly from this kotlin tutorial: https://www.programiz.com/kotlin-programming/constructors#:~:text=UNKNOWN Age %3D 0-,Kotlin Secondary Constructor,are created using constructor keyword.&text=In Kotlin%2C you can also,in Java)%20using%20this()%20.
prisma wave
You can also overload the companion object's invoke() operator function to make fake constructors
Which is deliciously hacky
empty flint
ok I'm too stupid for this shit, can you guys help me out?
prisma wave
with what
empty flint
I have this data class:
data class Attribute<T> (val name: String)
and I want to add this secondary constructor:
constructor(name: String, vararg pairs: Pair<Context, T>) {
//how do I invoke the primary constructor here? this(name)?
//and do stuff with the pairs that only god can judge...
}
With this()
empty flint
With
thie()
@ocean quartz Sounds medieval
prisma wave
Lol
ocean quartz
Phone typo xD
prisma wave
I think a better solution would to just have the pairs in the primary constructor
empty flint
except:
Expression 'this' of type 'Attribute<T>' cannot be invoked as a function. The function 'invoke()' is not found
I think a better solution would to just have the pairs in the primary constructor
@prisma wave No can do chief. I don't want the pairs to be part of the class.
prisma wave
yeah because that's not how kotlin constructors work
ocean quartz
Tbh i find secondary constructor quite unnecessary in Kotlin most of the times since you can have default values
prisma wave
@prisma wave No can do chief. I don't want the pairs to be part of the class.
They don't have to be
empty flint
They don't have to be
@prisma wave Teach me
empty flint
a what now?
prisma wave
a property with the parameter value
like this.blah = blah
if you don't have val or var before the parameter, it will just be a parameter
empty flint
Data class primary constructor must have only property (val / var) parameters
Primary constructor vararg parameters are forbidden for data classes
empty flint
It's fine
No it's ugly and I don't want it to bear its ugly head to the world just yet
No srsly it's a work in progress so it's gonna be really bad. Do you still want it?
prisma wave
Yea
empty flint
=haste
compact perchBOT
prisma wave
=paste
compact perchBOT
prisma wave
Works too
empty flint
being a Barrybro
prisma wave
Execute all Barry's
empty flint
prisma wave
Hm
I am pretty sure you could just assign stuff in the secondary constructor manually
Like this.name = name and stuff
empty flint
the this(...) doesn't work in the secondary constructor. idk how to assign the name to this.name
prisma wave
Without calling another constructor
empty flint
I was told Kotlin knew this shit since it was born
ocean quartz
People do a bunch of hacky stuff on c++ to deal with pointers
empty flint
Ayyyy I knew it was possible:
constructor(name: String,/*
val permission: Permission,*/
vararg pairs: Pair<Context, T>) : this(name/*, permission*/) {
//do stuff with pairs nobody can know about...
}
is there a cleaner way to do this more declaratively:
for(pair in pairs) {
contextualValues[pair.first] = pair.second
}
instead of telling it to do a for loop...
Teach me the way, Clojure
empty flint
Excuse me. Why do those 2 have the same signature?!
public constructor Attribute<T>(name: String, vararg pairs: Pair<Triple<Network?, Rank?, UUID?>, T>) defined in me.blocky.ranks.datastructure.parameter.Attribute
public constructor Attribute<T>(name: String, vararg pairs: Pair<Context, T>) defined in me.blocky.ranks.datastructure.parameter.Attribute
they both take a string and a pair probably
empty flint
crap
can I define an infix function that takes a triple on one side and a value on the otherร
like the to infix for pair...
public infix fun <A, B> A.to(that: B): Pair<A, B> = Pair(this, that)
I'd want to achieve something like (a, b, c) to value
prisma wave
you could just the existing to function?
empty flint
does that work?
prisma wave
why wouldn't it?
empty flint
I'd want to achieve something like (a, b, c) to value
@empty flint Did I stutter? ๐
prisma wave
impossible
prisma wave
Yes
prisma wave
Pair and Triple are the closest analogies
empty flint
So another question then about its weirdness:
Attribute("A", contextA to "contextA") works but Attribute(name = "A", contextA to "contextA") doesn't
prisma wave
Because you can't mix named and indexed arguments
Because of ambiguity
Although you can in 1.4 iirc
onyx loom
kotlin 1.4 is the answer to everything
prisma wave
Truly
empty flint
Kotlin 1.4? is it out yet?
prisma wave
It's in RC
onyx loom
soonโข๏ธ
prisma wave
โข๏ธ
empty flint
Got it.
pairs = *arrayOf(contextA to "contextA") is a suggestion from IntelliJ
What's the * in front of the arrayOf called? How do I google for that?
prisma wave
spread operator
empty flint
idk why the arrayOf is needed here
drowsy widget
Hey Iโve seen videos on like tornados chasing people but what if the dragon chased someone?
Would this be possible
empty flint
You have to use the spread operator on an array
@prisma wave why is that necessary? doesn't the vararg parameter show as an array within the function?
prisma wave
it does, but again it's to prevent ambiguity
It you had a vararg Any
And you passed an array it would be unclear what you were trying to do
The spread operator makes it explicit that you're passing the array's elements as varargs
Not the array itself
empty flint
ah got it got it
so the spread operator basically unwraps the elements in the collection for the compiler
I think I got it now
ty โค๏ธ
prisma wave
Np
ocean quartz
Minecraft doesn't support \n without splitting the message into two right?
surreal quarry
i don't think so but i saw smth yesterday that made me think it might i just haven't been able to try it
might be worth a shot
hot hull
And the requests have gone to shit again ๐
regal gale
?
hot hull
regal gale
I didn't see anything lol
empty flint
Is there a difference between removing an element from a map and setting it to null in Kotlin?
empty flint
@prisma wave I have this exact problem right now: http://gopalkri.com/2017/08/18/Kotlin-Data-Class-Constructor-Problem-Followup/
Do you have any advice?
A data class with private primary constructor exposes the constructor to the copy(...) method.
steel magnet
How do i do 1.16 bungee cord?
obtuse gale
I think the api is pretty similar to the spigot one
steel magnet
i need to set it up
obtuse gale
youll just have to add it to ur build.gradle then bam
steel magnet
i had 1.15 done but i need to update to 1.16 but it just says
ERROR -----------------------------------
ERROR Unable to find BungeeCord-1.15.jar
ERROR Please upload a Jar file to be able to start your server.
ERROR -----------------------------------
obtuse gale
first up wrong channel but I mean your issue is self explanatory
its looking for a jar file called BungeeCord-1.15.jar
tacit cave
hello
can we give permission to player with attachment even we're using luckperms?
or we have to use their api?
hot hull
Kotlin fellas, how would one make the i mutable?
for (i in from until to) {
gonna be honest I have never used a for loop in kotlin I dont think.,.. lol
old wyvern
The I shouldnt be mutable in any case frost
Use step if you want to increment in larger numbers
hot hull
I'll try a different approach
old wyvern
Sure
young cove
Is someone know if it's possible to display a scoreboard objective in player list to only some people ?
young cove
๐ Good news so, I try to search for packets but I can't find a javadoc or an example
remote goblet
Itโs either very simple or involves a fair amount of packets
young cove
I would prefer the first case :p
remote goblet
Wouldnโt we all
prisma wave
@empty flint data classes should be for data only, they shouldn't be validating the data they get. Make a factory function / class
I would just not worry about the copy method
Just don't use it if you're concerned
Alternatively, take wrapper classes that perform validation instead of stuff like Strings
foggy pond
Lol tf, Sublime Text is 80$?!?
I was thinking that I might as well buy it if it's like 10$ to support the devs
but 80$ bruh
obtuse gale
o
prisma wave
It costs as much as WinRar
That is, technically paid but you can use it for free forever
prisma wave
^
obtuse gale
hot hull
Get gud
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
regal gale
Not listed there ๐
prisma wave
You gotta boost
prisma wave
obtuse gale
ok this question is quite basic
how to get my code work using IntelliJ ? (not talking about compile )
hot hull
:what:
obtuse gale
how to run code in intelliJ
Run configurations
where ?
if its like a public static vodi main intellij should show a green triangle thing next to it
otherwise you gotta go lik
eedit > run configurations
then ?
package me.Pindicator.work;
public class Work {
public static void main() {
System.out.println("Hello I m a Noob");
}
}
is this correct ? (cause I can't run my code)
steel heart
I think you need String[] args parameter in the method
obtuse gale
^
steel heart
Or like a string array / string vararg
obtuse gale
just type psvm or main in intelliJ and hit enter
ok String[] args worked but I did something else with idk
?
anyways thx Aj and Bukkit
analog crater
Does anyone know of a cheap host with gpus?
keen creek
Im trying to check what if the block a player ender pearls onto is stone but I cant get it to work
I have
@EventHandler()
public void enderPearlThrown(PlayerTeleportEvent event) {
if (event.getCause() != PlayerTeleportEvent.TeleportCause.ENDER_PEARL) return;
Location to = event.getTo();
Location from = event.getFrom();
Block block = to.getBlock();
if (block.getRelative(BlockFace.DOWN).equals(Material.STONE)){
System.out.println(block);
event.setCancelled(true);
}
System.out.println(to);
System.out.println(from);
}
Define not working
maybe you need to call .getType on the getRelative
idk what getRelative returns tho, im guessing its a block
keen creek
i gtg to bed now :(
quiet depot
Does anyone know of a cheap host with gpus?
@analog crater reliablesite has a gpu bearing server for $99
analog crater
I'm a uni student who pays for uni. I dont have a spare 99 dollars a month for a server in florid
Florida
quiet depot
good luck finding a server with a gpu for any less
quiet depot
what do you need it for anyway?
analog crater
A heavy gpu based backend as a poc
I thought it would a lot cheaper
Likd 20 30 dollars a month
quiet depot
lol no
analog crater
Slow cpus it is
quiet depot
actually you might be able to get something cheaper from aws
analog crater
Oo how much and where is it hosted?
analog crater
K thanks
quiet depot
yeah nope
not happening sorry
I don't know how to navigate this site
lets see if I have more luck with google cloud & azure
analog crater
Ok lol. Preferably one is uk
quiet depot
you can't afford to be picky
analog crater
Ok
analog crater
How much?
quiet depot
hundreds
analog crater
Damn.
quiet depot
does your uni not provide resources for this sort of thing?
analog crater
They do but I havent got access for it for a while and they're not the best
steel heart
There is no way to extend a package private class in another package right?
quiet depot
not at compile time, no
steel heart
with reflection?
quiet depot
no
steel heart
ok good
steel heart
bruh
ocean quartz
make a package with the same name as the original, extend it and make it public ez
hot hull
Anyone got any cool projects/knows of any, which handle 3D chunk rendering into a web window (similar to what dynmap does, but 3D)
ocean quartz
Make your own, it'll be a fun challenge
regal gale
https://github.com/BlueMap-Minecraft/BlueMap you can check out this, which I believe is made by using three.js
hot hull
Also by 3D I don't mean just a top down view, meaning time to make something myself
old wyvern
dynmap isnt top down, eh but yeat not 3d, somewhat of a 2.5D render
hot hull
I just came a litle :kek:
hot hull
heady birch
add more
empty flint
@empty flint data classes should be for data only, they shouldn't be validating the data they get. Make a factory function / class
@prisma wave I have a factory method. That's exactly the problem. I only want the class to be made via the factory but the copy method is made public by the data class...
prisma wave
if you absolutely need the data validation then make wrapper classes of the data you're taking
quiet depot
this is truly infuriating
bukkit seems to for the most part, treats empty slots as null
except when it comes to the crafting slots
what the fuck
hot hull
kek
ocean quartz
Yup it's stupid
quiet depot
I also love how they don't follow the protocol standard either lol
these are the proper slots
hot hull
An idiot designed these
quiet depot
these are bukkit's
ocean quartz
Lmao
hot hull
Sheesh
ocean quartz
Another fun thing, if you check for slot clicking on an inventory, clicking on a chest triggers a player inventory click as well on the same slot
quiet depot
yikes
actually iirc, the bukkit slots are based off nms
still stupid tho
i'm basing papi's api on the protocol
that's the only approach that makes sense imo
hot hull
Speaking of smooth brains, I've got a particularly smooth one today, what would the fix for this be https://paste.helpch.at/zinemeguzu.sql
quiet depot
you need more memory
ocean quartz
Dedotated wam
hot hull
But I no have anymore dedotated wam
ocean quartz
Download more
quiet depot
^
hot hull
:((
compact perchBOT
@quiet depot, Added download-ram to the faq.
quiet depot
important faq
hot hull
But no seriously, am I just fucked or?
old wyvern
hot hull
Go donate
hot hull
I'm doing commissions all the time
quiet depot
takes longer tho
hot hull
And where would one disable daemon
quiet depot
where the google guide says to
ocean quartz
Let's make a go fund me for frosty
hot hull
Let's not
quiet depot
how much money u got frosterino
hot hull
I told you, not enough
jovial warren
that's some Enterprise Logicโข๏ธ right there
hot hull
Ah I see
quiet depot
it provides the functions of the PlayerInventory type, for the bukkit binding
jovial warren
is that PAPI 3 btw?
quiet depot
yea
jovial warren
also how far away from eCloud 2 3? is it 3? (I think so) being a little bit more open are you btw?
quiet depot
erm not sure
heady birch
Very
jovial warren
because I really wanna contribute to that
quiet depot
last I heard they were trying to work out "crnk" for expansion uploading
idk
something like that
jovial warren
not using Spring anymore @heady birch ?
heady birch
Yeah we are
jovial warren
wdym by the "technology has changed" then?
heady birch
Originally traditional monolithic application using thymeleaf for frontend
Is now split to Vue
jovial warren
yeah you should use Vue that's a good idea
heady birch
And implementing a RESTful api for the frontend to use
jovial warren
wait what?
quiet depot
the backend & frontend are decoupled
heady birch
It was seperated into two repos
jovial warren
ah okay
heady birch
Isn't that how vue works?
jovial warren
actually you might be are most likely right
jovial warren
yeah Vue is really good at that
ocean quartz
I thought Lemmo was more of a backend guy
jovial warren
are both of them still restricted projects at the moment with only key trusted members having access btw?
jovial warren
yeah Piggy's already said that I think
but by the time it's open-sourced there won't really be all that much to contribute since most of it'll be done
it'll just be bug fixes and performance upgrades
quiet depot
I thought Lemmo was more of a backend guy
@ocean quartz lemmo is full stack
ocean quartz
Ooh okok
jovial warren
what does full stack mean?
quiet depot
everything
jovial warren
ah okay
thought so
yeah I wish I could be a full stack developer but I just don't have the creativity element
it's why my portfolio still hasn't been created
I can do the backend no problem, but I can't design for the life of me
jovial warren
true
quiet depot
if you know javascript, you're basically full stack
quiet depot
yes
old wyvern
Yes
quiet depot
by far the most useful language
jovial warren
because from what I've seen it's a horrible language
quiet depot
it is
old wyvern
Horrible, but widely used
jovial warren
can anyone here who knows both Kotlin and JS tell me if JS is anything like Kotlin (what I'm used to)?
quiet depot
kotlin can compile to js
jovial warren
yeah I know
onyx loom
kotlin/js
quiet depot
they're not similar though
jovial warren
should look in to that
quiet depot
except perhaps syntactically
jovial warren
the biggest difference I can think of is types
quiet depot
js is more similar to java regarding syntax
jovial warren
Kotlin has type inference whereas JavaScript has no types at all
hot hull
If you know java learning js is easy
jovial warren
or at least, gives so little fucks about types that it's as if it doesn't
somebody point me in the right direction of where to get started learning
hot hull
But I mean kotlin can compile to js so
heady birch
kotlin makes sense
reading javascript you kind of just have to guess what variables are
jovial warren
I do wanna explore more languages, since so far I've only ever used Java, Kotlin, very very minimal C and C#, a tiny bit of Dart and TS, and a bit of Python
heady birch
not to mention those {} object things that dont even have a spec or anything
jovial warren
what might be a good idea for my first JS project (just to get a large feel for what it's like) is me making an implementation for BardyBot's REST API (when I actually finish it lol)
old wyvern
Kotlin has type inference whereas JavaScript has no types at all
@jovial warren
argueable
jovial warren
also what do you guys write JS in?
jovial warren
it's types are a joke though you gotta agree with that
old wyvern
And canvas games
jovial warren
also I mean IDEs
heady birch
rest apis ๐คข
old wyvern
it's types are a joke though you gotta agree with that
Why?
prisma wave
@jovial warren vsc or ij
old wyvern
same
prisma wave
yea any text editor will do
jovial warren
you can cast from a boolean to an integer or a string or pretty much anything
quiet depot
I actually prefer js to python
jovial warren
all of those types should be mutually exclusive imo
heady birch
let a = true
a = 0
a = a
console.log (a)
b
old wyvern
Wha?
quiet depot
yea well they're not bardy, cuz js is weakly typed
jovial warren
yeah I was saying they should be, I know they aren't
old wyvern
you can cast from a boolean to an integer or a string or pretty much anything
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary/Type_coercion
jovial warren
it's surprising how JS has such good performance tbh though
ocean quartz
I'm sad people don't like JQuery, i find it much easier than JavaScript
ocean quartz
I've seen a lot of people complain about it
old wyvern
I'm sad people don't like JQuery, i find it much easier than JavaScript
Who doesnt like jquery?
quiet depot
jquery is an old framework
people don't like it, because the newer ones do everything better
that doesn't stop me from using jquery though
old wyvern
Which one replaces jquery?
ocean quartz
TypeScript maybe?
static zealot
yeah? I want to know
old wyvern
I have just been using that since I started js
quiet depot
typescript is a language
static zealot
oh heard of typescript
jovial warren
wait how is JS the world's most popular programming language?
ocean quartz
Oh forget what i said
jovial warren
according to W3Schools it is anyway
quiet depot
typescript is a language developed by microsoft to bring the joys of static typing to javascript
old wyvern
wait how is JS the world's most popular programming language?
Well lets see..., used on all webbrowsers?
jovial warren
true @old wyvern
old wyvern
Yea vbscript
jovial warren
that's not what confuses me though
quiet depot
ah yeah ts is definitely microsoft
ocean quartz
Yeah it's Microsoft
quiet depot
python is technically the most used language
jovial warren
what confuses me is how creatures from the same species as me have decided that this language is good
quiet depot
although frankly I've got no idea what in lol
where tf is python used on such a large scale
old wyvern
python is technically the most used language
More than js?
quiet depot
yes
old wyvern
Wow did not see that coming
jovial warren
you'd have to be a fool to use Python on a large scale
quiet depot
maybe I've just been reading the stats wrong
python could simply be just the most known language
yeah i think that's the case actually
cuz i read elsewhere that java is still the most used language
jovial warren
apparently JS is first, then Python second, followed by Java third and PHP fourth
ocean quartz
Damn
jovial warren
yes you heard me right, people also use PHP, a language literally known for being filled with security flaws (and also pretty slow and crap)
static zealot
idk but I just got a random email saying that python jobs are not as popular due to COVID and if I want I can join their team and they'll offer me 6 months of training or somethign xD
ocean quartz
The PYPL PopularitY of Programming Language Index is created by analyzing how often language tutorials are searched on Google.
static zealot
never in my life did anything python related xD
ocean quartz
Doesn't really represent the most used
quiet depot
I just can't imagine where python would be used in real life
old wyvern
Damn
quiet depot
for anything that isn't quick shitty pocs
old wyvern
oh matt posted it
jovial warren
yes, programmers hire people for Python programming
hot hull
How is kotlin not up there :((
ocean quartz
The same way xD
hot hull
Too low if you ask me
prisma wave
not for long
static zealot
its getting there
old wyvern
prisma wave
Helpchat will single handedly make it #1
jovial warren
I think Kotlin will rise toward the top
I reckon in a few years you could see Kotlin make at least top 10, if not top 5
but it depends
prisma wave
Actually make clojure #1 and Kotlin #2
ocean quartz
Sadly i understand, a lot of tutorials and stuff about Kotlin tend to be for android, and most people search for java related things for Kotlin
quiet depot
people like rust more than kotlin
prisma wave
Yeah they are
old wyvern
Ouch
jovial warren
that's what Kotlin does lol
jovial warren
@prisma wave probably
ocean quartz
prisma wave
not literally 99%
jovial warren
how is Go at 13?
jovial warren
idk never used Go, no idea what it's like
quiet depot
go's cool
static zealot
CM you should start making kotlin tutorials xD
ocean quartz
Go is fast
quiet depot
very simplistic
old wyvern
Go is pretty good
prisma wave
Not rust fast but pretty fast
jovial warren
@static zealot that might actually be a good idea
prisma wave
@static zealot I'm making a Java one rn, plan to move to kotlin later
ocean quartz
Poor thing
jovial warren
let me collaborate to that please @prisma wave xD
prisma wave
Poor groovy
old wyvern
Sad
old wyvern
I vote for Groovy Mitten for the sake of it
jovial warren
I want Kotlin Mitten back
prisma wave
You get the next best thing
old wyvern
oh Jython
jovial warren
@prisma wave get out
prisma wave
:)
old wyvern
Fuck
ocean quartz
This is also understandable
old wyvern
Holy mother of...
prisma wave
@ocean quartz what's Clojure at?
quiet depot
jython
jovial warren
@ocean quartz it's such a poor language though
quiet depot
the best python implementation
ocean quartz
Not on the list @prisma wave
prisma wave
Jython good
old wyvern
Th
prisma wave
Clojure bad
heady birch
Wheres rust
jovial warren
it's funny how most of the top languages are either languages that have been around for decades, or languages that are very easy to bodge shit together with, or both
old wyvern
Rust got rusty
ocean quartz
ocean quartz
Good increase
heady birch
yeah but thats biased
prisma wave
Apparently not
prisma wave
I would've thought the same thing
jovial warren
what's Rust like?
heady birch
sleepy joe biden
jovial warren
I've heard it's stupidly safe
prisma wave
Rust bad
old wyvern
Dart be flamin
ocean quartz
Be darting
jovial warren
the only use for Dart is Flutter
old wyvern
Havent tried it yet
prisma wave
It's a mix of Kotlin and JS from what I've seen
old wyvern
Ah
jovial warren
Flutter is really handy for making cross-platform applications though
heady birch
Trash
ocean quartz
Main async ;o
quiet depot
does it have proper multi threading or is it nodejs style :/
ocean quartz
I'm not sure
dusky drum
interesting
prisma wave
Looks like it's python style multithreading
jovial warren
one thing that I find a bit confusing with Python, especially coming from Java/Kotlin, is the label thingys
I think that's what they're called anyway
they're written the same as annotations but do different things
lunar cypress
Decorators you mean?
hot hull
They decorate
jovial warren
funnily enough, annotations are just one of those things that I've never actually created and defined interally
lunar cypress
Annotations suck unfortunately
jovial warren
I mean, they look pretty easy to do in Kotlin with KAPT
but in Java you gotta do it with pure reflection from what I've seen
jovial warren
idk
from what I've seen you have to get the object as its class and check if it has an annotation present
or maybe I've just been looking at one very specific example
ocean quartz
It's kinda reflection but kinda not, it comes from the class, so simple getClass
quiet depot
it is reflection
jovial warren
yeah that's what I meant by reflection
old wyvern
yea nvm I didnt think it fully through
jovial warren
the only place I've ever used reflection is with org.reflection's Reflections#getSubTypesOf method
quiet depot
that is not reflection
that is in fact, the polar opposite of reflection
despite the name
ClassGraph has the ability to "invert" the Java class and/or reflection API, or has the ability to index classes and resources. For example, the Java class and reflection API can tell you the superclass of a given class, or the interfaces implemented by a given class, or can give you the list of annotations on a class; ClassGraph can find all classes that extend a given class (all subclasses of a given class), or all classes that implement a given interface, or all classes that are annotated with a given annotation. The Java API can load the content of a resource file with a specific path in a specific ClassLoader, but ClassGraph can find and load all resources in all classloaders with paths matching a given pattern.
classgraph's description is excellent
it applies to org.reflections aswell
ocean quartz
Pressure ๐
jovial warren
is PDM not already available and ready for use?
frail glade
Relocations aren't done yet
I'm just giving him shit. I can't even really use my PC yet until I get my wifi adapter.
jovial warren
lol
heady birch
PAPI3 when
jovial warren
annotation placeholder?
heady birch
@Placeholder("name")
public String somePlaceholder() {
return "lol";
}
hot hull
Kali, Piggy said it's at like 50%