hot hull
Very informative error 
[13:51:06 WARN]: Exception in thread "Thread-10" com.mrpowergamerbr.temmiewebhook.exceptions.WebhookException: {"embeds": ["0"]}
[13:51:06 WARN]: at com.mrpowergamerbr.temmiewebhook.TemmieWebhook$1.run(TemmieWebhook.java:49)
[13:51:06 WARN]: at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:832)
prisma wave
very detailed
dusky drum
i have mutablemap of blocks placed, and if someone breaks one block it gets removed, but i also have scheduler that syncs data to database very 3600secs
and in that time when it starts syncing if someone breaks block
i get error
so i want to clone it.
so it doesnt get edited when its syncing
prisma wave
MutableMap.toMap
hot hull
That can't be good
BUILD SUCCESSFUL in 666ms
@prisma wave You're familiar with regex right?
prisma wave
reasonably
hot hull
So I need to get the image link from this
Some info, image: https://imgur.com/unknown.png
dusky drum
make url parser?
or split string
like
string#split("image: ")
and use the other half
hot hull
Nah it's a random string
dusky drum
make url parser
// Pattern for recognizing a URL, based off RFC 3986
private static final Pattern urlPattern = Pattern.compile(
"(?:^|[\\W])((ht|f)tp(s?):\\/\\/|www\\.)"
+ "(([\\w\\-]+\\.){1,}?([\\w\\-.~]+\\/?)*"
+ "[\\p{Alnum}.,%_=?&#\\-+()\\[\\]\\*$~@!:/{};']*)",
Pattern.CASE_INSENSITIVE | Pattern.MULTILINE | Pattern.DOTALL);
Matcher matcher = urlPattern.matcher("foo bar http://example.com baz");
while (matcher.find()) {
int matchStart = matcher.start(1);
int matchEnd = matcher.end();
// now you have the offsets of a URL match
}
empty flint
Does anybody know of an open-source Minecraft plugin repo on github written in Kotlin that I could take a gander at?
dusky drum
empty flint
Merci
dusky drum
thats 5 years old, just so you know
dusky drum
who uses
fun da()
{
}
and not
fun da(){ }?
prisma wave
clever people who realise that Allman is objectively better
dusky drum
no
dusky drum
its less readable for me.
hot hull
I mean yea because IJ is defaulted as k&r
prisma wave
i cant get used to it.
Literally the only difference is a line break before a {
dusky drum
its wierd
prisma wave
It's not unreadable
hot hull
It's not for the faint hearted
dusky drum
not realy
dusky drum
ah i dont like it but, if you do i dont realy mind each person has its own opinion on stuff :3
prisma wave
But after trying it I started liking it
dusky drum
it didnt save my pic
dusky drum
class CropDrops(plugin : SimpleCrops, fileManager: FileManager) {
val fileManager = fileManager
}
quiet depot
;-;
dusky drum
it says something that i dont need that val blabla
quiet depot
then remove it
old wyvern
Personal opinion: Allman weird for Java
hot hull
This is the best bracket style:
if (something) {
banBrister() ;
if (isSomething() {
remove() ;
}
}
wow
dusky drum
it says it can be declared in consturctor or something.
old wyvern
😂
dusky drum
ye idk how
prisma wave
}
im so stpid
prisma wave
automatic constructor parameter with backing properties
old wyvern
Simple soln to all problems, Elara
dusky drum
is sql code slower in kotlin?
quiet depot
no
dusky drum
it takes some time for 128 data entires to be processed for some reason
old wyvern
Why would sql be slow for kotlin
empty flint
All of you Allman simps have no idea.
This is the one true coding style:
https://twitter.com/hiscursedness/status/788690145822306304
dusky drum
idk why i cant find better solution to sync data from plugin to sql than deleting everything from table and then inserting everything.
prisma wave
Noo
hot hull
This is the best bracket style:
if (something) { banBrister() ; if (isSomething() { remove() ; } }
@empty flint smh
quiet depot
that's not a practice exclusive to lua gasper
empty flint
idk why i cant find better solution to sync data from plugin to sql than deleting everything from table and then inserting everything.
@dusky drum Wut?
Have you heard of the UPDATE statement?
empty flint
@empty flint smh
@hot hull cursed_coding_style.jpg
empty flint
um... DELETE statement?
dusky drum
how can i know if something was deleted if all i have is map of data
empty flint
as i know sqlite doesnt have it
@dusky drum https://www.sqlite.org/lang_update.html yes it does?
how can i know if something was deleted if all i have is map of data
@dusky drum I don't think I understand what you mean after all
ocean quartz
@hot hull Something like this? https://regex101.com/r/y5wEQp/1
empty flint
Can you give an example?
ocean quartz
Oh okok ;p
empty flint
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/iz8c6m6a.png
@dusky drum But aren't you deleting some data that you then enter again?
dusky drum
i drop stuff in table
then insert everything
since i edit that map on bloc break/place
empty flint
That's barbaric... only delete the data you need to delete, update the data you need to update and insert new data. Don't delete the table contents and re-write it all again
dusky drum
how can i know what to delete
i've tried that
but then some random guy places and breaks stuff in same space 2000 times
and there you go
empty flint
By tracking the changes
empty flint
Re-writing the table for all blocks because of 20000 breaks on the same block is exactly what you should avoid
empty flint
But... why???? Why not just update the entry for the one block?
dusky drum
since
empty flint
It makes no sense
empty flint
so if you have 10000 crops in your table and somebody breaks one, you delete it all and re-write 10000 entries.
dusky drum
i do that every 5 mins even if noone breaks anything
empty flint
since its all in Map
@dusky drum what's the key of the map
empty flint
jesus
dusky drum
???
empty flint
just get the value for the one entry and update the row, it's literally the same effort on your part but it's so much less strain on the server/db
dusky drum
?
empty flint
Create a new map, if a block breaks where your map would change, enter the new data in the new map
dusky drum
data must be instatnt sql isnt instant
empty flint
What's the primary key of your table?
dusky drum
noone
empty flint
the location?
empty flint
noone
@dusky drum that's not possible
empty flint
Then specify a primary key and use that to update the rows that change, do not delete all the data and re-write it, that's terrible practise
dusky drum
i have no idea how i would keep track on which block was removed and then placed again in same spot 200 times
thats 200 entries-.
empty flint
idk why i cant find better solution to sync data from plugin to sql than deleting everything from table and then inserting everything.
@dusky drum This is why you can't find a better solution.
dusky drum
so youre telling me its prfect solution?
empty flint
i have no idea how i would keep track on which block was removed and then placed again in same spot 200 times
@dusky drum Why would you keep track of all 200? Just keep track of the last change on the block. Except if you need the history of course
But it doesn't look like you do
Since you have no date field
empty flint
so if somebody breaks a block 200 times, you change the value of your block in the map 200 times and update only one row 200 times
instead of writing the whole table 200 times
because I assume your map contains more than the one block, right?
dusky drum
thats not efficient calling sql for eachtime someone breaks/places block
empty flint
thats not efficient calling sql for eachtime someone breaks/places block
@dusky drum No, you can still keep calling it every 5 minutes if you only need the 5 min window of data inconsistency. But when you do call the sql code, call it the right way, not the brute-force way
But with updating the table instead of re-writing it, you can call this every 5 seconds instead of every 5 minutes without overspending server resources
dusky drum
so you're saying i should do something like this and then run thru updated list every 5 mins?
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/nweeaqhx.png
empty flint
definitely better than rewriting tables
ocean quartz
Ugh, I can't figure this out >.<
So anyone wanna help me ease my brain pain?
Problem:
In a sequence like this:
text *text **text** text*
^ ^^ ^^ ^
O ?? ?? C
The first one is easy to set, it'll be an opening asterisk O, the last one is also easy since it'll be a closing one C
However I have no idea how i'll check for the middle ones and detect if they are opening or closing
Plus more things come to mind like for example: *text **text** *text** <- this is invalid -> text text text
hot hull
Oh god that looks oof
ocean quartz
I've been in this for days, my brain hurts
empty flint
are you looking for them using regex?
ocean quartz
No, it's token based, the tokens in that case will look like TEXT, ASTERISK, TEXT, ASTERISK, ASTERISK, TEXT, ASTERISK, ASTERISK, TEXT, ASTERISK
hot hull
I'm assuming you could keep track of opening tokens, but I'm guessing that wouldn't be exactly fast
empty flint
Ah gotcha. What lexer/parser language are you using?
I had the Same issue with ANTLR4 and the solution was contexts
ocean quartz
I mean the plan is to keep track of opening tokens, but how do you even decide which one is opening and which is closing? xD
And it's my own lexer/parser
empty flint
Keep track of what tokens were opened. If it was opened already its a closing one, otherwise its an opening one.
hot hull
Matt, I'd guess by having a scope which stores the first token it comes accross, ie.
Store X, Y, and when you get to another token, check if that token is already set, if it's not it's not the closing sequence, if it is, then it is
X Y
*Text **Some** More Text*
empty flint
This is assuming you can't do something like
open one ast. open and close second ast close one ast.
hot hull
You can escape them, but you could check for that as well
empty flint
An escaped char is a totally different thing though...
hot hull
I mean yea..
ocean quartz
Escaping is done when tokenizing it
empty flint
Can you keep track of them?
ocean quartz
I can, but i'll have to mark them as ambiguous or something, idk, can't think of any good way
Like the only way I can think of would require many iterations, which.. isn't great, for example:
text *text **text** text*
O CC CC C
O OO CC C
Where everything after the first one will be marked as close, and then on the second iteration it marks the opening ones accordingly
But i don't like that solution at all
dusky drum
anyone has idea how i would get base block of sugarcane like if someone breaks top block of sugarcane i would get the base one like the bottomest one.
i guess something like this wil work right?
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/0zwave2v.png
empty flint
Like the only way I can think of would require many iterations, which.. isn't great, for example:
text *text **text** text* O CC CC C O OO CC CWhere everything after the first one will be marked as close, and then on the second iteration it marks the opening ones accordingly
But i don't like that solution at all
@ocean quartz Can't you match occurrences of *<any text>* and then you know the opening and closing is at the first and last index?
then just parse the <any text> thing through again?
Hm could I actually start a webserver from within the plugin that lets users access it via the web, similar to how luckperms works?
ocean quartz
Yeah that's what I had in mind too i'll try some things
dusky drum
luckperms uses github for webinterface if im not wrong.
empty flint
luckperms uses github for webinterface if im not wrong.
@dusky drum I think you are...
I see some webserver implementation stuffs.
dusky drum
i mean
it opens github
they just send data to github
they use this:
https://pages.github.com/
empty flint
As far as I saw when I mulled over the code, it wrote data to a pastebin-type site.
Bytebin I think it was called
It opens the editor in luckperms.net
Not github
Also, I want to have users be able to host the webserver luckperms contacts on their own server...
dusky drum
i mean before luckperms they used github.io
and if you need their webpage:
https://github.com/lucko/LuckPermsWeb
errant geyser
They write data to Luck's Bytebin and that gets loaded in their web editor
Then to save they write the modified data back to Luck's Bytebin and that gets put into the link you get
empty flint
Inb4 this channel has more Kotlin associated activity than the official Kotlin Discord 😄
analog crater
Kotlin don't have an official discord
But they all these https://kotlinlang.org/community/
dusky drum
i wish they had discord
dusky drum
XD
empty flint
I mean idk if it's an official server but it's the only one I found and it fits all the criteria
dusky drum
ok
empty flint
discord gg / RsQv9f idk if the bot deleted the invite url or not.
dusky drum
recoding plugin into kotlin is quite fun
analog crater
... who pinged me again
prisma wave
helpchat should become the official kotlin discord
static zealot
xD
dusky drum
hm
onyx loom
empty flint
Jolly you might have gotten pinged by the bot. I posted an invite url to the kotlin discord and didn't consider it might be forbidden. Apologies!
Is polling a database from the plugin feasable?
Meaning does it use up too many resources?
dusky drum
is that normal:
if current level = 14
(2.0.pow((currentLevel - 2))) * 100
it returns something like 100k
if i put like this in calc
12*12 *100 i get like 14k?
prisma wave
what?
prisma wave
@empty flint interacting with a database in a plugin is fine
empty flint
@empty flint interacting with a database in a plugin is fine
@prisma wave Yeah but how often per second is it ok? 😛
dusky drum
isnt 2.pow(12) = 12^2?
dusky drum
wtf
empty flint
that's 2 raised to the power of 12
empty flint
2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2
dusky drum
omgh
prisma wave
@empty flint it's async, so it will probably be fine unless you're doing thousands
dusky drum
i did it wrong
empty flint
@empty flint it's async, so it will probably be fine unless you're doing thousands
@prisma wave so like 100 times per second is fine?
prisma wave
Yes
@empty flint what could you possibly be doing that needs 100 sql queries a second?
empty flint
math.pow(12, 2) is 12^2?
@dusky drum https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/lang/Math.html#pow-double-double-
@empty flint what could you possibly be doing that needs 100 sql queries a second?
@prisma wave maybe I am going at this all wrong
So I am thinking of people installing the plugin on multiple servers on the same network, right
like bungee network or some shit
All the plugins use the same database
So if I change one thing on one server that affects an entry in the database (INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE and the sorts), then I'd have to somehow relay that info to the other plugins running on the network, right?
Unfortunately not all SQL implementations support alerting the clients to changes
MySQL doesn't
SO I have to poll the database
I figure 100 times a second should be enough
or maybe 10 times a second?
1 second for changes to take affect is too long in 2020 god damnit
prisma wave
that is probably a very bad idea
prisma wave
if you need fast reading and writing, consider an in-memory database like redis
or use plugin messages / web requests
empty flint
Yeah so that's not an option then
prisma wave
typically you'd have a redis installation with a persistent server as a backing cache
so redis + sql
or redis + flatfile
empty flint
Ugh
I mean sure, that's a possibility
But then the problem is still how to keep data consistent between the different Redis instances of the different servers/plugins on the same bungee network?
prisma wave
redis is fine to query loads of times
it's in memory, so your only real bottleneck is latency
and if you're on the same network, that's virtually nonexistent
you could also take a reactive approach with plugin messages / web requests / some message server
empty flint
Hold up I'm not sure I understood Redis correctly then.
Is Redis like a server in memory that another server can access as well?
empty flint
Say you have server A running the plugin and server B running the plugin. Where does Redis sit?
On server C?
On server A but server B gets access somehow?
static zealot
anyone here made a discord bot using kotlin and would be able to share the SC?
prisma wave
they can be on the same server @empty flint
physical server that is, not minecraft server
empty flint
they can be on the same server @empty flint
@prisma wave I don't get it.
prisma wave
it's basically sql but in memory (except not literally because it's NoSQL)
you still query it in the same way
empty flint
physical server that is, not minecraft server
@prisma wave Oh, right, yeah so the server owner has to provide a redis instance?
prisma wave
yes
prisma wave
then you'd need to use some other method
but any bungee network should have access to one
a lot of plugins use redis
empty flint
Oh really? Like which?
prisma wave
RedisBungee is an obvious one, i couldn't name any others specifically but a lot of bungee plugins will provide it as an option
empty flint
RedisBungee is not being maintained anymore though
And it's 20$ so no chance of getting at the sourcecode
dusky drum
whats redis bungee, bungee that connects bungee?
empty flint
it's open source
@prisma wave oh lol ur right. I just looked at the price and noped out.
empty flint
But the code is horrendous
prisma wave
redis is fairly widely used
dusky drum
why would you stop updating redisbungee :?
prisma wave
i mean
empty flint
Got it
prisma wave
that works i guess
empty flint
The consequences meaning risking data inconsistencies for half a second
xD
Dude this is gonna be so complex now...
dusky drum
almost did recoded main functionality of plugin into kotlin
empty flint
@prisma wave So here's my new plan:
Redis, MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, MongoDB, H2 can be selected as storage. H2 would be the persistent backup for Redis (if nothing else specified because it's just flatfile). The Redis storage handler implementation would periodically save the data to the persistent database. All other databases would get polled 5 times a second. Is that feasable?
prisma wave
5 times a second is quite a lot
earnest narwhal
Hey guys would you reccemend using SQLite?
empty flint
Hey guys would you reccemend using SQLite?
@earnest narwhal I would rather eat a bowl of nails before touching SQLite again.
Without milk.
empty flint
Hey guys would you reccemend using SQLite?
@earnest narwhal It's fine for simple tasks, very limited in its capability though
earnest narwhal
And it doesn’t establish the connection
I’ll try using MySQL any good tutorials I can look at?
Or what db do you reccemend?
empty flint
MySQL is fine. MariaDB is my personal Fav. Oracle is the godking in my experience but it's more for professional use...
At work I use oracle, privately I use MySQL or MariaDB
5 times a second is quite a lot
@prisma wave Hm I mean I guess mc plugins aren't critical...
ocean quartz
Good progress boys!
prisma wave
huge
onyx loom
👏
ocean quartz
Using commonmark, unfortunately not my parser xD
But hey it works pretty well and most likely better than what I would make so pretty nice
heady birch
Hibernate 🙂
pastel imp
I am trying to figure out how tf you are doing that
but probs too much for my brain
but here's more challanges:
this
this
lavish notch
Theoretically It's pretty simple and straight forward...
ocean quartz
i've been at it for over a week
errant geyser
matt help me, your command framework is giving me telepathic aids
That's my own fault for trying to convert it but eh
ocean quartz
What's up? xD
errant geyser
So you know I want to convert it to like, using actual objects and stuff? Yeah that's not as easy as I expected. I made another abstract class for it and it sorta works as intended, I just dont know what to do with my actual command class and what it needs to hold, since I'll be using a CommandBuilder and then returning a Command at the end
Idrk
I have to modify a decent bit of your CommandManager class buuuuuut
ocean quartz
Just wait a few more days and i'll change a bunch of stuff on it that'll make this a lot easier for you
ocean quartz
Will do ;p
ocean quartz
ocean quartz
Was thinking of [text](hover: Hover Text) and [text](click: Click action) and things like that
prisma wave
Ah yeah that's good I think
ocean quartz
Need to figure how it'll work though, since i think commonmark won't allow multiple words in the link area, i guess i can just run it through regex
ocean quartz
Bungee api uses fucking lombok..
prisma wave
gross
prisma wave
When is BungeeKord coming
errant geyser
Wym
prisma wave
Pretty small afaik
errant geyser
Since we cant exactly PR it since MD_4head would be like, bitch, idk that SUPERIOR language
errant geyser
Is he looking to start a crusade
prisma wave
If he wants one he'll get one
errant geyser
Noice
So u know this lexer I gotta make
I've never done anything like this before pls dont hurt me where the hell do I start
prisma wave
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'll make a list of token types in the morning
Then probably just regex it
errant geyser
It's worse than you could possibly imagine
ocean quartz
Pretty sure he doesn't like Kotlin yeah
errant geyser
I dont comprende the comprende you comprende to comprende the regex comprende, comprende?
ocean quartz
A lot of people in the Paper/Spigot discords don't like it
prisma wave
@errant geyser lexer splits text into tokens. Check if bit of text matches regex, if so add matching token to list
simple
I propose a crusade upon the Paper discord
errant geyser
prisma wave
They will learn the power of Kotlin in one way or another
regal gale
In my opinion, a lot of people ik uses BungeeCord back in the day they're all a cracked community 👀
errant geyser
I more meant I have no idea about like, using regex. The most I've ever done is detect a lower case character, which I think is [a-z] right
prisma wave
oh
yeah
lol
this could be difficult
I mean you don't have to use regex that's probably just the easiest way
regal gale
My most achievement in regex i could do is detect comment codes in the entire script text...
prisma wave
Regex isn't that hard
errant geyser
Well theres sites that let you build/test regex right? I could probably figure it out with that and the Overflow on Stacc
prisma wave
regex101 is a godsend
errant geyser
Quickly screenshotting for tomorrow
distant sun
prisma wave
Looks like Kotlin to me
errant geyser
Imagine hard coding that and not using TensorFlow to predict which agency you wanna hack
prisma wave
Good, good
remote goblet
nice splashscreen
split talon
It’s too eye searing
quiet depot
Bungee api uses fucking lombok..
@ocean quartz use kyori adventure
A lot of people in the Paper/Spigot discords don't like it
They're also against gradle, and sometimes even intellij
oh, also discord lol
md said for the longest time he wasn't going to make a discord, hardcore irc user
obtuse gale
Competable future vs callback?
quiet depot
callback is a concept, completable future is an implementation
they're the exact same thing
obtuse gale
Is one "better"?
obtuse gale
well yeah but what should i use lol
ocean quartz
Why?
quiet depot
aj callback is a concept
like a practice
a pattern
completablefuture is an implementation
code, that adheres to that pattern
obtuse gale
what?
quiet depot
Why?
@ocean quartz why what?
obtuse gale
From what I can tell they do essentially the same thing
ocean quartz
use kyori adventure
quiet depot
Oh, it's way better than bungee's text api
also platform independent
From what I can tell they do essentially the same thing
I'm not sure how to explain this in any other way
callback is a concept
quiet depot
you use a callback
obtuse gale
and when would i use a completable future
quiet depot
and java's implementation of the callback, is completable future
obtuse gale
o
quiet depot
as I said before
completable future is an implementation of the "callback"
I don't want to use a lib with another lib, it's one of the things i didn't like about minimessage
yeah that's understandable, but otherwise you gotta deal with lombok
ocean quartz
Yeah, well i don't mind it that much now, but i could change to adventure if it's too annoying to use
ocean quartz
it doesn't
quiet depot
might pr a little something
ocean quartz
Nice!
I'll kinda rewrite it a bit later to have modules, it's a bit sucky right now
ocean quartz
Yeah, maven central shenanigans
quiet depot
can you not upload to central from gradle?
ocean quartz
Only stages, doesn't release, i need to go there and manually do it
quiet depot
ah
well, I have a few ideas to pr
first of all, classpath scanning
or at least my version of it
no dependencies required, it's just a single class
at it's barest form*
also want to pr guice support, in a separate module
like in maven, you can add mf as dep, or mf-guice
however, I've got no clue how to modularise a project with maven
so would greatly appreciate your help with that
ocean quartz
Apologies, in the middle of a warzone match xD
Sounds nice!
I think i know how to do modules with maven, though i'll need to try a few things
I wanna make it more abstract, for jda and stuff
quiet depot
aight
i'll wait till you've got that done then
so I can see how you modularised it
ocean quartz
Oh okok, I'll get to it as soon as i finish this markdown stuff, which should take long
distant sun
"Papi3 coming this century on your server"
quiet depot
it's coming along nicely
ocean quartz
Soon™️
distant sun
Matt, dont.
ocean quartz
What? xD
ocean quartz
Don't even know which image you're talking about xD
distant sun
Smh
raw rapids
?help
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
keen creek
Sometimes when I restart the server it just freezes and the last line is always
.... [14:41:40 INFO]: [LuckPerms] Goodbye!
This is the output
pallid gale
Development General - Not configuration help
Try out #minecraft or one of the general chats #general-plugins
keen creek
oops sorry
oak kindle
Hey
I need some general help
Someone reviewed my plugin today and he says he is from China and that that "many Chinese server owners want a translated language file" but idrk if its just someone who wants to steal the code of my plugin
either way the code is already in my github
is this some kind of scam or something?
because he says he is from china but he follows 2 spanish devs i've seen on youtube, who make videos in spanish
regal gale
How can you "scam" when it's already free
old wyvern
Just allow a message config
oak kindle
my plugin is not known
old wyvern
No need to provide source
oak kindle
and randomly a user comes and says "Your plugin is amazing!" and other things
looks kinda
idk
regal gale
That's normal?
regal gale
Technically, just don't bother about it
oak kindle
regal gale
Welp
oak kindle
._.
regal gale
Now that's weird 
hot hull
Chinese MC forum site or some shit
hot hull
I've been messaged a while back as well
oak kindle
he like searches plugins with not too many downloads
regal gale
I usually don't trust any of Chinese products, actually, especially to that site
hot hull
They apparently just link your plugin download (so it's still through spigotmc), and just translate the page to chinese
hot hull
If your plugin is OS, there's really no concern lol
dusky drum
i mean i got randoms asking me if they can put my plugin there to.
obtuse gale
Service] Just Code
[Request]
I need a code of /kill (player) because I don't know to use bukkit.getPlayer correctly
Bukkit.getPlayerExact(name).setHealth(0)
@obtuse gale
Same lol I got a couple Chinese people ask me if they could link the spigot resource with the description translated to Chinese to some website
mcbb something
oak kindle
whats that
obtuse gale
As long as it complies with the license I'm all good lol
wait I have to use name not args[0] ?
well...
is args[0] the name?
name of the player ?
args[0] is help in this case
/test help ahhh oof
ye that
so yeah use args[0]
but check if its null first
ok
thx
btw in this case I have to use strings[0] Right ?
(CommandSender sender, Command command, String s, String[] strings)
yeah
but if you want you can rename that param
ye ik
and thx again
also
Bukkit.getPlayer might return null if the player doesnt exist
I forgot
So be careful abouit that
hot hull
Just use Matt's framework, ez
obtuse gale
hot hull
Any progress Aj?
regal gale
Such easy thing to do right here... https://prnt.sc/twjh17
Explained how i got the native country name from the last #showcase
Good job Testy 👀
Yeah.. no idea how to do this in kotlin
Oh well, I figured myself
dusky drum
its so fun when you have to check if cactus gets broken on grow or no ...
hot hull
What's not fun is me having to remake this mob stacking :((
prisma wave
Serious question here, if I was to make a plugin tutorial that doesn't suck, can you think of any problems with starting with kotlin instead of Java?
quiet depot
Yes
people don't know what kotlin is, and it's relation to the jvm/java
and that's not something you can explain either in a beginner tutorial
not to mention, starting them off with kotlin is not doing them any favours when they try make their own project, and can only find java resources online
prisma wave
Good point
I suppose you could handwave an explanation with "it's a language that is compatible with Java" or something
prisma wave
You're probably right
I just think Kotlin is probably easier for a complete beginner to learn
quiet depot
really?
I would've thought the opposite
there's a direct link between verbosity and readability, two categories that java excels in
kotlin on the otherhand, is not anywhere near as verbose as java
and is therefore less readable
prisma wave
True, but a lot of the syntax reads more naturally I think
It's a lot easier to understand "fun name" than it is "public void name"
There's probably positives and negatives to both but I think you're right
errant geyser
Or you could tell them to learn the language first, and then not deal with this
BM voice reveal incoming?
quiet depot
bm you should totally upload the videos to helpchat channel btw
hot hull
God I'm sick of this "If you want to save the world" ad, I've heard it like 500 times the past two months
quiet depot
imagine seeing ads lol
prisma wave
Ecosia?
versed ridge
ads? what's that
hot hull
Shut up Piggy, we just got spotify in our country, still haven't set it up :((
quiet depot
what you need spotify for
youtube is way better than spotify
youtube is the best place to listen to music
prisma wave
is it though
versed ridge
nah
quiet depot
yes
hot hull
I listen to it on mobile
quiet depot
youtube has way more content than spotify
hot hull
Indeed it does
errant geyser
I'd prefer Spotify honestly, it usually cuts off those songs that have that weird intro shit and just gives you the song
quiet depot
I don't listen to music on mobile
purely because of the reason that spotify doesn't have the sort of music I listen to
hot hull
I do, because ya know, one too many chrome tabs and the pc explodes
prisma wave
YouTube music?
hot hull
Just normal yt yea
errant geyser
Imagine using chrome
hot hull
Imagine using a PC, now shut up weeb
errant geyser
Exqueeze me
WEEB
I'll have you know I've never watched that weird japanese anime stuff
quiet depot
youtube could easily be the best music app in existence if they allowed video-less streaming with autoplay
errant geyser
That, piggy, is why you use YouTube Vanced
errant geyser
It's a YouTube wrapper? I guess? App that is literally youtube but allows autoplay and can play videos with your phone closed
Oh god
hot hull
ew apple
onyx loom
ew frosty
quiet depot
oh clojure, ended up implementing lazy initialization for the material api like you recommended .-.
prisma wave
seems like the only way around it
quiet depot
I wonder if I can create some sort of java api that allows for a standard method of lazy initialization
like kotlin's lateinit
prisma wave
there are variable delegates for that kotlin val lazyVar by lazy { someValue }
quiet depot
ah ok
prisma wave
You could do something similar
it would need a method call to actually get the value ofc
hot hull
Tad cleaner I guess? https://paste.helpch.at/xomokelopo.java
wise badger
Which Youtuber would you recommend watching in order learning how to make Java Plugins?
regal gale
Which is better, Gson or Jackson
wise badger
What
regal gale
No, not you
wise badger
Ah
regal gale
Also, I don't recommend going to Youtube for such stuff
regal gale
Internet has a lot of examples than that
wise badger
I can’t understand documents, trust me I’ve tried. If you guys have a good tutorial on YouTube I’ll appreciate it!
hot hull
ayy it works
wise badger
The thing is I can understand the Language but I can’t code from 0..
obtuse gale
Do you know what a method is?
hot hull
thoughts KM? https://paste.helpch.at/uxokakumex.java
obtuse gale
java
hot hull
smh
wise badger
Any recommended YouTuber?
obtuse gale
none
rapid ingot
Idk where to post this so I will try here
My friend is hosting a sever and occasionally the server motd just says pinging and when I try to join it gets suck on loading terrain and after a little while it times me out.
Sometimes it does this sometimes it doesn't.
Does anyone have a idea how to fix this.
rapid ingot
Ram isn't a issue it has 14gb
It's located in the is us and I live in the uk
it only happening on this one server
wise badger
hmm, can you send me your console message?
rapid ingot
of the join and leave message?
wise badger
on server start
rapid ingot
heady birch
jackson
obtuse gale
jackson
quiet depot
gson vs jackson is the equivalent of swinging doors vs sliding doors
they both work fine
obtuse gale
except sliding doors are objectively better
heady birch
but swinging doors smack you in the face
obtuse gale
^
quiet depot
well
heady birch
sliding doors do the work for you
quiet depot
I really tried but I couldn’t think of anything else
heady birch
lol
obtuse gale
and require you to clear room around for the door to swivel out
quiet depot
help me, what’s 2 equivalent things that can be compared
quiet depot
gson and jackson aren’t like eclipse and intellij
obtuse gale
no
because gson and jackson arent like doors and sliding doors
they are like eclipse and intellij
wait
quiet depot
well then help me think of a better example
obtuse gale
what did i just say
I just said no to your statement then just said your statement.....
idk what im sayingl ol
quiet depot
idk dude I can’t think of anything
point is neither is better than the other
they both have pros and cons
my preference is gson
@wise badger if you “know the language”, try out my challenges list. https://github.com/PiggyPiglet/Challenges. Will help you learn the spigot api
Regarding the “code from 0” problem. We (#development) can help you get started
rapid ingot
could someone help me out with my issue
rapid ingot
oki
static zealot
or #development if you have a development problem
rapid ingot
i did minecraft
prisma wave
ever heard of clojure though
obtuse gale
dont
prisma wave
do
distant condor
is clojure good java bad
prisma wave
yes
obtuse gale
yes
prisma wave
clojure good kotlin good java bad
obtuse gale
but kotlin good clojure bad
distant condor
kotlin best clojure good java bad?
distant condor
time to execute the kotlin naysayers
prisma wave
distant condor
petition to get barry to censor "kotlin bad"
old wyvern
🤦♂️
prisma wave
circle jerking good
earnest narwhal
Hey, who is experienced with NMS here?
heady birch
Kind of
ocean quartz
Lovely review
onyx loom
4 stars 
static zealot
xD
quiet depot
petition for spigot to rename reviews to
"Single Response Support & Error Section. WiTH STaRs!!1!"
ocean quartz
Oof I need suggestions for this
Would this look good for multiple actions? Separated by |
[text](hover: Hover message|click: Click action)
And also idk how I'll do the types of clicks and stuff like that
Maybe [text](clipboard: ) where the clipboard can be url, command, suggest_command, hover, how would this look?
obtuse gale
Hey idk where to say this. but i need a way to do /discord on my mc server im fairly new to this plugins and stuff does anyone know how i can install such a plugin or make it myself?
heady birch
Matt use <> html looks nice
ocean quartz
@heady birch What? Use <> for what in there?
obtuse gale
Hey idk where to say this. but i need a way to do /discord on my mc server im fairly new to this plugins and stuff does anyone know how i can install such a plugin or make it myself?
MyCmds can probably do that if all you want is it to send you a discordd link
heady birch
<hover text="hover text">txt</hover>
ocean quartz
Yuck, plus that defeats the entire purpose of making it a markdown like syntax
ocean quartz
Oof just realized that this action stuff will be pretty hard
Since the lib only accepts [text](link) if there is a space in the link area, it'll work, which will just append that in the chat, though as soon as I add bold and stuff inside the tags it breaks xD
jovial warren
F
prisma wave
ocean quartz
Now wait till they say there is no source only decompiled version xD
static zealot
xD
prisma wave
Oh no
hot hull
@forest whale Can you elaborate a bit more on your request, do you have source? Which plugin exactly, etc
forest whale
MoreFish Plugin
hot hull
Got a link?
distant sun
When creating a database for a ptero server, what do I set as allowed IPs to allow only local connections? Tried 127.0.0.1 but it doesn't allow plugins from other servers to connect.
forest whale
ocean quartz
I need someone to criticize this:
https://paste.helpch.at/ipubewakek.php
Since it can't handle the actions like i want i am doing it my own way, so I need to tokenize the actions first
The test string i used was
"[test](action: **test**) <#22967b>This -is- [test](action: **test**) a *lexer* example [test](action: **test**) final text"
Which turned into this:
[{action}, <#22967b>This -is- , {action}, a *lexer* example , {action}, final text]
Anything you guys would improve on the parser?
hot hull
No source, have fun with that
ocean quartz
distant sun
stoopid
hot hull
Bruh
It's not like you have a large title which clearly says Source Code that can be used for that
ocean quartz
Sad to see this
Also @prisma wave can you judge me on this one? 👀 https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/695431668944732270/742089119626166433
hot hull
That man should not be allowed to use kotlin :(
prisma wave
Murder him
onyx loom
prisma wave
@ocean quartz isn't that lexing not parsing?
It seems like you've merged the 2 processes into 1
ocean quartz
I'm unsure tbh, because basically I need to parse the actions before handling everything, but i need to keep them in the correct place in the string, then later I'll have to parse each of the tokens data individually again
It doesn't need to be a token, just thought it made sense to be
prisma wave
Hm
Well typically in language parsing, you split the text into tokens and then parse the token stream
I'd recommend you do the same, since trying to do it in 1 process usually gets messy
ocean quartz
Actually yeah this is more of a lexer, basically I'll lex them into tokens, one that'll have just text and other that'll have the action stuff, like display text and the action itself, which will be parsed later together with everything else
prisma wave
yeah
Well lexing is usually small tokens
So you might have an ASTERISK token, a LPAREN, RPAREN, LSQPAREN, RSQPAREN, etc
You want to make the tokens as specific possible
ocean quartz
Gotcha, I'll try making this work
forest whale
@hot hull so , are you gonaa do it m8?
hot hull
Nah, I ain't got time, was just curious
forest whale
ocean quartz
static zealot
nice nice
distant sun
Noob
onyx loom
no not clojure
onyx loom
prisma wave
Gross
onyx loom
silence, light theme user
heady birch
No
No
Shutup
Im not doing that again
No wonder frosty complains about his damn ide locking up
onyx loom
thats just his bad pc
dusky drum
my pc is potato and it can still run Material Themes
heady birch
I am discusseded
split talon
Does using a spigot jar vs a paper jar make any difference?
dusky drum
paper has some functions removed i think
onyx loom
and has its own extra methods
dusky drum
maybe paper plugin isnt compatible with spigot
errant geyser
Paper plugins aren't compatible with spigot servers if you use paper specific things
But that's like, common sense
Overall it depends if you want to support everyone, or just paper
prisma wave
paper good
dusky drum
i love when pepl think i abandoned project and they just give 1 star since they cant wait for pepl to update stuff.
dusky drum
i know
he just said i didnt take any interest in fixing issues.
like wtf man ask first.
jovial warren
Was just browsing around the Firefox web store (was looking for a notepad) and just decided to put in "atom" to see what I could find, and I found this. For those of you by the way (like me) like the look of the Atom Material Icons, I found an extension that brings them to GitHub. It's also a useful tool to identify a file type, and looks quite nice as it is.
Firefox (objectively superior browser): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/atom-file-icons-web
Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/atom-file-icons-web/pljfkbaipkidhmaljaaakibigbcmmpnc
Edge (the worst browser ever created): Not available because it's so bad
heady birch
thats acctualy pretty neat
onyx loom
very nice
jovial warren
wow I actually discovered something useful for once xD
onyx loom
wait does the extensions not work on different chromium browsers?
jovial warren
what browser do you use?
onyx loom
i use chrome
jovial warren
then it'll work
jovial warren
no idea
onyx loom
🤔
heady birch
yes if they download chrome
onyx loom
o well. f edge users 
prisma wave
Yeah they can
jovial warren
but I searched the store and couldn't find anything
jovial warren
but that comment I left at the bottom is very true
prisma wave
Nah new edge is decent
jovial warren
I suppose we can give it some credit
it's not comparable to Firefox or Chrome though
well, imo Chrome isn't comparable to Firefox
idk
onyx loom
doesnt edge offer the best resolutions also?
jovial warren
Firefox is faster, Chrome and Edge are cleaner
prisma wave
And performs decently
onyx loom
interesting
jovial warren
I don't think Googles chromium rendering engine because I somehow forgot it again Blink will ever be comparable to Gecko though
onyx loom
how true is this
prisma wave
Oh for netflix
Yeah
It does
Because it can enforce the Netflix DRM on an OS level
onyx loom
also
jovial warren
yeah but who watches Netflix on their computer when they have a Sky Q Mini box that has it built-in am I right guys?
prisma wave
I mostly watch on mobile
onyx loom
mobile?????????????
onyx loom
i remember watching some on mobile, and im like yuck. the screen is so small xd
prisma wave
My phone has a big screen
jovial warren
this guy man am I right @onyx loom
prisma wave
And like in bed and stuff
onyx loom
just get a tv 4head
jovial warren
^^^^
I got a 32 inch TV with a Sky Q Mini box that has Netflix built-in
(though I literally rarely ever use Netflix anyway, I maybe use it once or twice a month? lol)
jovial warren
????
