NBT
#dev-general
hot hull
split talon
Ah sweet. didn't think of that, thanks!
split talon
IAL?
steel heart
Kotsu
errant geyser
lol
split talon
gotcha
hot hull
@prisma wave Need some guidance 
I have a PersistentStorage class which handles the persistancy of spawner objects, (stores the spawner list with the custom object within it as well),
What would be the cleanest was of making the spawners map exposed to static methods so I can cleanly add shit into it (preferably not having all the static methods within the storage class) - end goal is to have it structured as an api so I can use it within another plugin down the line
steel heart
Custom spawners oowww
errant geyser
@split talon done, use version 1.0.1 rather than 1.0 though now
hot hull
Spigot system is doodoo Conclure
split talon
Grazi.
steel heart
Frosty couldn’t say it better myself
split talon
This library saves a ton of time aha.
steel heart
Wait what are the custom spawners spawning?
hot hull
The current goal isn't custom spawners yet, but to replace the spigot system with a custom one, which will hopefully be less shit
(Will also allow for an easy addition of custom spawners ofc)
steel heart
So you basically want to track all spawners in some sort?
steel heart
If you want to track them through the entire server lifetime you might want to store them in a data file
hot hull
I have a PersistentStorage class which handles the persistancy
steel heart
Oh yes ofc
hot hull
I was thinking something like this
PersistentStorage.class
private List<Spawner>
PersistentWrapper.class
(initializes the persistent storage class and grants access to the spawner list)
public static addSpawner(...)
public static getSpawner(...)
public static removeSpawner(...)
But I've no idea on how to make a non shit api so open to suggestions
steel heart
Api for?
steel heart
Not at all
errant geyser
We have TWO cute doggo pfps in a row now
steel heart
errant geyser
hot hull
Wdym api for.., What I'm making rn is a base to the entire system wide spawner system, after that there's going to be another which handles silk touch and shit meaning I need an api to access the spawners and manage them
split talon
steel heart
I mean frosty do something and then let us look at it. You’re underestimating yourself
hot hull
hmm, mk
steel heart
You’re pro developer nocap
split talon
I've been programming for a while but nothing beyond simple things, and being here makes me realize how much I don't know lol
errant geyser
I was exactly the same when I joined
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I mean I'm still not the best don't get me wrong
hot hull
I learned java here
errant geyser
I learned half of Java and all of Kotlin here
steel heart
I learned java from yt tuts, this and some other coding discords
onyx loom
helpchat is DEFINITELY the best place for kotlin
quiet depot
pff helpchat > tsc
errant geyser
idek what tsc is so I gotta agree with that
analog crater
The Source code
onyx loom
helpchat coding utube channel when????????????????????????
quiet depot
i can’t comment on quality, I’ve never actually watched their shit
steel heart
They have some really good devs
analog crater
^ their bukkit tutorials aren't very good however they do highlight the api instead of being java good
quiet depot
what do you define good by conclure?
steel heart
People who know a coding language inside out ?
And also computer science really well
steel heart
Yeah
errant geyser
Conclure how would we go about adding NBT support and why is that useful?
quiet depot
Conclure, would you consider me a good developer?
steel heart
Nope Better than that
prisma wave
Very subjective
quiet depot
I have no formal education, none at all especially in computer science
prisma wave
In the grand scheme of things I don't think any of us are "good"
Compared to the gurus writing textbooks on OOP principles and stuff
steel heart
Well piggy you’re good compared to many other devs here not to mention you’re full stack?
quiet depot
oh full stack is just a buzz word
steel heart
Yeah alex True
quiet depot
it’s meaningless these days
prisma wave
but many of us are decent
quiet depot
languages these days work everywhere, people can call themselves a full stack developer even if they only know js
hot hull
Piggy, TSC doodoo, he uses eclipse
quiet depot
anyway, enough rambling, my point is conclure, I think you should change your idea of good. Like brister said
prisma wave
it's relative
ocean quartz
Piggy StringBuilder cannot be final on my case, it gets reset on line 44
quiet depot
oh
must have missed that
anyway it looks relatively clean to me
I’d assume a compiled regex would out perform it though
steel heart
Well not really I’d generally say good to someone who knows java decent
How old are you btw?
hot hull
117
errant geyser
Have you even seen his Spigot profile?
Most of the comments are just: "how do you live this long" and Piggy goes: "Just don't die"
onyx loom
not hard 
quiet depot
ez
ocean quartz
I wonder, because regex was being pretty complicated to get working, the rules were getting too big
steel heart
Kotsu I mean it could be nice to have a built-in NBT support just because it looks more feature rich
hot hull
Layout:
Main - https://paste.helpch.at/ujutapibuz.java
SpawnerWrapper - https://paste.helpch.at/dasomokaro.java
PersistentStorage - https://paste.helpch.at/voqinuxiqo.java
This is what I currently have, suggestions?
quiet depot
Don’t hardcode the keys matt
errant geyser
True but like, why would it be useful Conclure? I've never used NBT don't hurt me
quiet depot
assuming they’re all the same format
I can’t really read regex, so I’m not sure of the exact semantics
hot hull
katsu, cause nbt is easiest when it comes to storing data on items
plus, end user can't see nbt shit
quiet depot
frosty you asked me if something was a bad idea earlier. Frankly, I’ve got no clue
steel heart
Piggy how old are you?
hot hull
Yea already figured out it was a bad idea
onyx loom
hes 117 smh
hot hull
Anyhows, I need guidance on the above thing
steel heart
I mean srsly
quiet depot
on phone rn sorry
steel heart
Since you said you got no official education?
regal gale
Someone end this..
public void onBlockBreak(BlockBreakEvent breakEvent) {
Player player = breakEvent.getPlayer();
Block block = breakEvent.getBlock();
String noBuildReason = GriefPrevention.instance.allowBreak(player, block, block.getLocation(), breakEvent);
if (noBuildReason != null) {
GriefPrevention.sendMessage(player, TextMode.Err, noBuildReason);
breakEvent.setCancelled(true);
}
}```
That is a fragment of code of GriefPrevention about handling block break. Instead of making `canBreak()` or smth like a normal person, they did thatHe's 117 seriously smh
onyx loom
18 iirc
onyx loom
hot hull
I know his age >:}
hot hull
Conclure, mind checking out what I currently have and giving some input
quiet depot
au
steel heart
What continent?
steel heart
Ah, but like you done with high school?
prisma wave
Mysterious
hot hull
KM, I need your guidance
steel heart
It would be interesting to know as that would give me more info on how good you are relative to your age
hot hull
If you've got time ofc KM
prisma wave
Lemme get breakfast and I'll come on pc
errant geyser
HOW
quiet depot
conclure don’t think of people as good or not. Just take their advice, do your own research, and make a decision.
prisma wave
^
onyx loom
What the fuck is wrong with your sleep schedule
@errant geyser 2pm is normal time what?
hot hull
No it's not jesus
onyx loom
LATE??????
prisma wave
I could say the same to you
onyx loom
i literally went to sleep at that time
prisma wave
imagine choosing to wake up before 10am
onyx loom
couldnt be me
onyx loom
early bird
steel heart
Piggy yeah that’s probably better although I’d probably say good to someone who I feel is formed. Well might not actually good but compared to me atleast I guess.
hot hull
I go to sleep at 12am/1am and wake up at 7-8am
quiet depot
I’m in a constant state of chronic sleep deprivation
even though I get loads of sleep these days
onyx loom
me too
quiet depot
like on a week day lol, sleep easily for 12 hours, and I’m still tired
what’s up with that
onyx loom
prisma wave
bodies are weird
onyx loom
very true
prisma wave
that's a lot of EVIL scratch files
errant geyser
the hell are they
prisma wave
hard to explain
like mini code files that aren't part of your project
You can use them for testing stuff
Without making a new class normally
onyx loom
theyre cool
i mainly use them for clash of code
speaking of which.... 😳
who wanna play
hot hull
KM, you available now?
hot hull
Sheesh
split talon
Like man, I've taken 3 years of comp sci classes and I'm still shitty at it
prisma wave
Join the club
errant geyser
Hey welcome
prisma wave
I find most of the actual important stuff just comes from experience and practice
I have literally never needed to write a sorting algorithm by hand for example
prisma wave
I mean for something that isn't school
errant geyser
Ok then yeah, no
split talon
My last class I took was all data structures/algorithms bleh
prisma wave
Data structures are useful
split talon
Yeah but I don't find that aspect of CS very enjoyable
prisma wave
some algorithms are, in most high level languages they will already be done for you though
errant geyser
Networking is super fun imo
prisma wave
totally
split talon
I've barely dipped my toes into networking so far
prisma wave
very interesting stuff
errant geyser
I mean I love it and its really interesting & not too hard
quiet depot
you guys in uni?
split talon
Just started my first year of my CS degree aha
quiet depot
what are you majoring in?
prisma wave
Going to uni in 2 years for me
split talon
Computer science, ironically @quiet depot
quiet depot
oh
obtuse gale
how would one convert a string like this
"""
One of
These
Strings
"""``` into a List<String> where each line is a line on that stringuni I'm looking at offers a computer science degree, majoring in cyber sec or software engineering
assumed other unis would be the same
errant geyser
Split at the newline char?
split talon
^
obtuse gale
does kotlin just chuck a \n in it?
prisma wave
Yes
obtuse gale
aight
errant geyser
yeah
obtuse gale
so splitting @ that should be good?
split talon
String[] lines = contents.split("\r?\n");
obtuse gale
ew java
prisma wave
this is kotlin
obtuse gale
tryna make a fancy item builder
obtuse gale
crussade
prisma wave
never insult the hive mind like that again
errant geyser
never used kotlin, ew
Jax you made a good first impression and you're using IAL so I don't wanna do this but you leave me no choice
CRUSADE!
prisma wave
Kotlin good Java bad
hot hull
Java dooodoo kotlin good
split talon
Kotlin looks really promising actually
prisma wave
Phew
onyx loom
thats what i thought
prisma wave
Pack it up guys
errant geyser
Oke everyone pack it up
prisma wave
that was close!
obtuse gale
im thinking something like this
val item = item {
material = Material.STONE
lore = """
Line one,
Line two,
Line three
"""
}.build()``` idk if that would workCrusade averted
onyx loom
too close 😅
split talon
Time to fire up notepad and code in some kotlin
prisma wave
notepad??
hot hull
make sure you use the newline char for line checking cause , is ew
prisma wave
Kotlin deserves better
obtuse gale
class Item{
fun build():ItemStack{
val stack = ItemStack(material)
val meta = stack.itemMeta
meta.lore = lore.lines()
return stack
}
var material:Material = Material.STONE
var lore = ""
}``` this how you would do it?notepad++ at best
hot hull
If it ain't IJ, you don't deserve it
prisma wave
Ehh
onyx loom
^
prisma wave
Pretty much
obtuse gale
fun item(initializer: Item.()->Unit):Item{
return Item().apply{ initializer }
}```sublime
errant geyser
^
obtuse gale
found that online for the item method
split talon
Atom >sublime
prisma wave
that will mostly work
quiet depot
you're objectively wrong
split talon
Lmao
prisma wave
you probably want to return the build() call?
errant geyser
Jax no. I was there with ya, but I tried sublime and I couldn't go back
obtuse gale
oh
split talon
I'm just joking around. I use intelliJ and sublime already
obtuse gale
yea that makes sense
hot hull
KM, you on pc?
quiet depot
katsumag, I'm worried. sublime might not be the top dog for too much longer
prisma wave
Just about
hot hull
vscode is nice
prisma wave
In terms of speed it is I think
quiet depot
oh no
prisma wave
vscode looks nicer
quiet depot
it's not lol
sublime is still the fastest
I honestly doubt that'll ever change
but everything else wise, they're comparable
prisma wave
Not unless they stop using electron
split talon
I absolutely despise vs
steel heart
AJ implement a Supplier<ItemStack> perhaps? Could be useful if spigot will accept my pr
quiet depot
most cases they're comparable, some cases vscode is winning
obtuse gale
can I make it so im forced to give it a thing?
errant geyser
sublime might not be the top dog for too much longer
NOOOOOO
steel heart
You can’t implement interfaces in kotlin?
steel heart
Thought so
prisma wave
but java's functional interfaces are not an idiomatic thing in kotlin
split talon
anything with "visual studio" in the name gives me ptsd from my shitty laptop days. So much code lost from VS deciding to stop responding
obtuse gale
wdym
prisma wave
because first class functions exist
steel heart
Yeah ofc
prisma wave
Eg in the build() function if they haven't set the material, throw an exception
prisma wave
or use a default value
split talon
I'm aware, but og visual studio really tarnished the name for me
obtuse gale
hm ok
errant geyser
I don't like the whole "visual" family but thats just me
split talon
likewise
prisma wave
vscode is nice, Vs not so much
split talon
vs is a nightmare
obtuse gale
whats kotlins onEach?
prisma wave
Then again any IDE compared to a jetbrains one feels infinitely more clunky imo
onEach?
obtuse gale
mm
obtuse gale
nvm lol
split talon
same thing
split talon
onEach returns the collection doesn't it?
steel heart
like a function?
prisma wave
that just sounds like map
errant geyser
Big thonkers time here
prisma wave
🤔
errant geyser
steel heart
errant geyser
steel heart
obtuse gale
wait maybe not lol
errant geyser
steel heart
I’m not a nitro
obtuse gale
steel heart
So can’t use external stuff
errant geyser
Well you do got Nitro
split talon
I love this discord already
errant geyser
Just not boosting I assume
steel heart
I boost 3 other servers :/
errant geyser
Yikes you pay for another boost
steel heart
No someone paid me to boost them
errant geyser
oh
split talon
Imagine paying money just for emotes
errant geyser
He has Nitro BM
steel heart
It’s cheaper to buy another one if you have nitro
prisma wave
😦
errant geyser
Almost a week ago now I think
quiet depot
=multi
compact perchBOT
quiet depot
=multi spin
compact perchBOT
prisma wave
ayy
obtuse gale
oooo
errant geyser
❗
obtuse gale
o
prisma wave
not bad
obtuse gale
😦
errant geyser
I mean
prisma wave
could be worse
quiet depot
rip
errant geyser
Its better than nothing I guess
Might boost again at some point for a better one 😎
onyx loom
the only reason I bought nitro was for the multi
@prisma wave meeee toooo 😎
prisma wave
😎
hot hull
very good
onyx loom
kotlin kotlinkotlin kotlinkotlin kotlinkotlin kotlin
errant geyser
But do we circlejerk in here or #off-topic
hot hull
KM
steel heart
so onEach is like peek?
prisma wave
FP good OOP bad
errant geyser
Very good smart big words
onyx loom
kotlin good intellij good gradle good java bad maven bad eclipse bad
hot hull
You know what I'm gonna ask right?
steel heart
Noice
quiet depot
fp, oop
errant geyser
kotlin good intellij good gradle good java bad maven bad eclipse bad
Wise words Kali
prisma wave
i forgot what you were talking about
hot hull
You on PC?
quiet depot
anyone tried out data oriented programming?
steel heart
Foop
steel heart
Fdoop
errant geyser
I have not
prisma wave
@quiet depot nope @hot hull yes
errant geyser
BOOP when
quiet depot
functional data object oriented programming
quiet depot
that's something you could achieve in graal
quiet depot
EWWWWW
hot hull
Agreed, but I'd rather have it made in something I sort of understand
onyx loom
ew
prisma wave
DI
errant geyser
Frosty this is why I need to make that wrapper for you so that you can pretend your advancement API is written in kotlin
😎
prisma wave
wait what's it called
prisma wave
inversion of control?
quiet depot
or make it non static
hot hull
Piggy, that's why I need suggestions :((
quiet depot
dependency inversion
prisma wave
yeah
hot hull
But I need static so I can use it in the other shit
prisma wave
this is a bit nitpicky but I think SPAWNERS should be a Set rather than a List
errant geyser
Honestly frostiboo
hot hull
I'm not about to use DI for the entire api lmao
quiet depot
well if you insist on static
steel heart
Also frosty if you want to use it for externally, use ServicesManager
errant geyser
inb4 "UsE gUiCe"
quiet depot
make the PersistentStorage variable a constant
initialize it using a static initializer
get the plugin instance via JavaPlugin#getProvidingPlugin
there is literally no reason to pass the plugin instance via constructor
steel heart
Never used guice almost because I feel like it doesn’t give that much
prisma wave
don't bash it until you try it
prisma wave
Guice is very nice in large codebases
steel heart
And writing explicit DI doesn’t matter to me
prisma wave
for a few classes it's overkill of course
quiet depot
conclure you have to know how to use it with proficiency before it's value becomes apparent
steel heart
True
prisma wave
registerListener(final Listener... listeners) "listener"... "listeners" 
steel heart
Essentially from what I understand it just hides the keyword new ?
quiet depot
no
prisma wave
well
hot hull
forgot an s KM
prisma wave
not exactly
quiet depot
new is still used with guice
however exclusively on data objects
use it on anything else, and you're probably not understanding guice correctly
prisma wave
same with spring autowiring
hot hull
Another question, I need to access storage within the class where the player wrapper gets initialized, do I just use a getter or do I make the storage constant public?
prisma wave
depends
steel heart
Frosty registerListeners(Listener listener, Listener... listeners) {
Lists.asList(listener, listeners).stream()
}
Or maybe it’s newArrayList()
Can’t remember
prisma wave
you might want a getter that wraps it in an immutable collection
steel heart
But it takes a single object and then a vararg
prisma wave
obligatory "kotlin has mutability in the type system" message
quiet depot
that's redundant conclure
prisma wave
immutable wrappers bad
steel heart
Not rly
quiet depot
why not?
hot hull
See KM, the storage part should not be modified (apart from the spawner set ofc)
steel heart
Avoid calling it empty?
errant geyser
Cos like, this is much cleaner than a sperate getter
private val _layers = mutableListOf<Int>()
val layers: List<Int>
get() = _layers```that's also gross
steel heart
True although I like when the compiler tells me not to
quiet depot
if anything, you lose more performance doing it your way, as you now have to concatenate two arrays, or two streams
prisma wave
mutability in general is gross
steel heart
Well you’re only registering onEnable?
quiet sierra
Stream.of
steel heart
That takes varargs only?
quiet depot
illusion I'd recommend reading the context before replying
errant geyser
Destroyed
quiet sierra
I'm stupid I know
steel heart
Yes it’s not as performant true but shouldn’t matter that much if it’s just invoked once in a while
errant geyser
Damn I shoulda said rekt
prisma wave
can we go back to circlejerking
errant geyser
Clojure meh
quiet depot
lisp meh
prisma wave
blasphemy
steel heart
Scratch good
prisma wave
I can type very long paragraphs
errant geyser
Remember our deal tho
errant geyser
PSL welperino = Clojure for me + free xp for you
steel heart
K
quiet sierra
a pin would be good
prisma wave
a pin for what?
steel heart
O
hot hull
So
quiet depot
pls
quiet sierra
skript good
steel heart
Heh
quiet depot
skript is very good
prisma wave
kotlin just isn't as extendable as clojure
quiet depot
dude clojure just isn't as extendable as skript
steel heart
Block programming is good
prisma wave
although fun fact apparently they are adding support for compile time checking in kotlin 1.4 or something
hot hull
What to do with the storage constant now which I need to access within the class where the wrapper get's initialized
static zealot
I like how Brister just evolves every day while we just follow him without learning anything just to seem cool xD
steel heart
Nothing can ever be as extendable as block programming
prisma wave
so you can ensure at compile time that your int input is more than 0 or something
idk how it'll work
quiet depot
yeah you're onto something conclure
prisma wave
but sounds cool
steel heart
quiet depot
onyx loom
onyx loom
flex
static zealot
xD
hot hull
errant geyser
I like how Brister just evolves every day while we just follow him without learning anything just to seem cool xD
(removed the quote for xp reasons) but how else do we provide him with the endless stream of xp
static zealot
quiet depot
brister you should make an actual mitten
with all your names in it
brister, kotlin, skript, clojure
all the languages you use
onyx loom
SKRIPT?
quiet depot
and love
onyx loom
prisma wave
my god
static zealot
what?
hot hull
Piggy trying real hard over here to start a crusade
prisma wave
that's a good idea
hot hull
You goddamn sinner 
errant geyser
Piggy really wants a crusade huh
prisma wave
although only people in this server would get it
onyx loom
which is like 10 people
prisma wave
¯_(ツ)_/¯
static zealot
xD
quiet depot
that's ok, awkward inside jokes are the best kind
errant geyser
Worth it
prisma wave
NO
errant geyser
Defo
hot hull
What to do with the storage constant now which I need to access within the class where the wrapper get's initialized
prisma wave
WAIT
static zealot
yeah
prisma wave
wHAT
static zealot
when 10 people laugh and everyone else is looking at you
errant geyser
Nononononononon
static zealot
then you start laughing at them because they can't laugh with you
quiet depot
im sorry 
prisma wave
😡
errant geyser
hot hull
getter it is
quiet depot
frosty
onyx loom
ez
quiet depot
instead of making all these methods static
prisma wave
we should do that more often
quiet depot
have a static instance
static zealot
xD
errant geyser
Frosty are you slowly evolving into Niall?
quiet depot
public static final SpawnerWrapper INSTANCE = new SpawnerWrapper();
errant geyser
I feel like you are
prisma wave
nah
hot hull
I am fucking disgusted Piggy
prisma wave
niall would have at least 8 layers of abstraction
quiet depot
it's better than what you've got frosty
prisma wave
and much more enterprise code
onyx loom
enterprise code at its finest
dusky drum
i managed to create images in java yey!
quiet sierra
8 layers weak
quiet depot
no
quiet sierra
15 here
quiet depot
do it in skript
prisma wave
👀
dusky drum
interesting
prisma wave
truly the pinnacle of code design
errant geyser
Indeed
quiet depot
I mean
errant geyser
I think he'd be proud of that
onyx loom
revolutionary
quiet depot
ManagerManager >
errant geyser
DAMN how could I forget the Enterprise Manager™️
prisma wave
FactoryFactoryManager
dusky drum
hm
prisma wave
perfection
errant geyser
NiallGetterSetterBeanFactoryComponentServiceBuilderRecieverManagerFactoryBuilderManagerManagerHandlerCallerRecieverBuilder™️
quiet depot
I have something similar in rpf
errant geyser
™️
prisma wave
now THAT is future proofing
dusky drum
wtf
errant geyser
Its our revolution at its finest
static zealot
onyx loom
thank u for this niall 
dusky drum
yes
errant geyser
quiet depot
what's up with java beans though
dusky drum
cant wait till humanity makes Artifical Inteligence that accualy works
quiet depot
why are they called beans
errant geyser
inb4 frosty yells "Baked BEANS HA Gotem"
prisma wave
neither of those things are true
dusky drum
Graphics2D g2d = bufferedImage.createGraphics();
errant geyser
prisma wave
apparently it's to represent versatility and reusability or something
errant geyser
I mean
prisma wave
The name "Bean" was given to encompass this standard, which aims to create reusable software components for Java.
quiet depot
big enterprise a____ n____ s____
errant geyser
Are beans irl reusable
dusky drum
guys which Java version do you use?
quiet depot
8
errant geyser
11
prisma wave
8 usually
quiet depot
and 11
hot hull
1
prisma wave
11 if I can help it
quiet sierra
5
prisma wave
🤮
errant geyser
Get out
onyx loom
static zealot
7
errant geyser
This one can't be saved
hot hull
Imagine using Java lmao
dusky drum
okay so i was trying to upgrade to 11 but like 88% of users of my plugin still use 8 ...
errant geyser
Not really
hot hull
KM, dissapointment intensifies
prisma wave
yeah plugins will probably be on 8 forever
quiet depot
nah
prisma wave
hear me out
quiet depot
they won't
errant geyser
Sad
static zealot
public ones
errant geyser
prisma wave
you have var, the standard library gets some nice upgrades similar to what kotlin has, and like
it's faster or something idk
modules are cool too
errant geyser
I mean its better
dusky drum
eh i still prefer using int,long,string and that stuff
errant geyser
But not Kotlin worthy
prisma wave
as opposed to what @dusky drum ?
dusky drum
var
prisma wave
oh
well
once you have to type List<List<Map<String, Optional<Player>>> every time you might disagree
onyx loom
dusky drum
not realy
quiet sierra
crap
prisma wave
type inference is, most of the time, better than explicitly declaring the type
onyx loom
type inference is great
prisma wave
assuming that the actual type can still be obtained from context
hot hull
kotlin good, java bad
prisma wave
var age = 30;
``` is just as readable as ```java
int age = 30;
i've managed to make G2D in java :
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/mttpz9kl.png
prisma wave
nice
steel heart
some nms stuff can be async iirc
dusky drum
G2d
prisma wave
yeah afaik NMS can be async a lot of the time
dusky drum
?
prisma wave
well
quiet depot
because nms won't synchronize your shit
hot hull
Well you kinda can't Piggy
quiet depot
spigot won't sychronize it either
errant geyser
I need to replicate almost exactly that, but can't figure out the G2D methods to use Gasper
prisma wave
forcing the game onto a single thread seems like such a waste
dusky drum
i mean its 2020 we have like insane cpus for multi threading and eh mojang is still mostly on single thread..
they could step their game up
onyx loom
imagine
errant geyser
We need to start HCCCE 2.0 but make it a server impl rather than a plugin
dusky drum
my bad they changed name to mojang studios*
onyx loom
yeah nah thats just not gonna work katsu kek
prisma wave
you're welcome to PR my barely functioning server impl
onyx loom
look how far we got with v1 
dusky drum
oh and if you want my G2D code i can send you entire code just sec
prisma wave
it would be cool if clip merged my PR before hiding the channel 😦
quiet depot
katsumag, idk if you've got any idea how much effort that would take
dusky drum
whoever asked for my g2d code.
https://paste.helpch.at/firazelubi.java
quiet depot
not a single fully functional nms alternative exists, even to this day
prisma wave
yeah server impls aren't trivial
quiet depot
glowstone & cuberite come close
onyx loom
just recode mc
quiet depot
but they just aint it
hot hull
get good Piggy
prisma wave
making it all thread safe is gonna be even harder
dusky drum
thats the correct one:
https://paste.helpch.at/uvudokubuz.cpp
hot hull
Since y'all don't like BukkitRunnable so much, what alternative should be used instead?
dusky drum
java runnable XDDDDDDD
prisma wave
personally I don't see a problem with BukkitRunnable
errant geyser
I'm aware of the effort it'd take guys, but it'd be funny to sweat our asses off (or in your case, Piggy, Bacon) and then laugh at how disfunctional it is
hot hull
Neither do I KM, hence why I'm asking
onyx loom
no thanks
prisma wave
apart from it being ugly
@errant geyser the minecraft protocol is a pain in the ass to implement
dusky drum
ye
errant geyser
Conclure swears by the scheduler and lambdas for some reason
regal gale
@onyx loom i already recoded my entire World expansion 👀
quiet depot
the protocol lol
dusky drum
mc is wierd
onyx loom
i saw
onyx loom
but whyd u comment out the worlds placeholder
quiet depot
world generation
prisma wave
well yeah it's the least of your problems
hot hull
World generation eZ
dusky drum
but i cant belive they fixed fps in 1.16 i get 300+ fps, in 1.15 i mostly get 45 fps.
regal gale
but whyd u comment out the worlds placeholder
@onyx loom probably for the meme :p
onyx loom
uncomment it
it just returns the world names formatted by a ,
e.g world, world_the_end, world_nether etc
steel heart
BukkitRunnable is useless
dusky drum
no its not
steel heart
It is
dusky drum
no
steel heart
How isn’t it?
dusky drum
its good
steel heart
No lol
dusky drum
yes
steel heart
It’s useless
prisma wave
it's ugly
dusky drum
i use it for async data sync with databases XD
hot hull
Conclure, elaborate your thoughts weeb
onyx loom
not just it bad it good
steel heart
BukkitScheduler?
steel heart
BukkitScheduler takes a Consumer<BukkitTask>
Fixing the cancel problem
And you can use lambdas
dusky drum
dont both work with lambada?
hot hull
cancel problem?
steel heart
BukkitRunnable is not an interface
dusky drum
just store it to class and then cancel it?
steel heart
Runnable is working with lambda but doesn’t have a cancel method
errant geyser
It does
hot hull
It does tho?
dusky drum
store it as variable and cancel it?
errant geyser
BukkitRunnable#cancel()
errant geyser
We're on about BukkitRunnable tho
hot hull
We're not talking about Runnable are we tho?
steel heart
Consumer<BukkitTask>
dusky drum
well if you want to cancel it?
steel heart
Then better just use the scheduler ?
dusky drum
and as i remember isnt runnable just like task that you later on run scheduled?
steel heart
Also initiating BukkitRunnable anonymous is ugly and invoking any method on it returns a BukkitTask anyways
If you want to store a BukkitRunnable just store a Consumer<BukkitTask> ?
steel heart
Well I don’t do kotlin so no idea there but in java it’s useless
errant geyser
Fairs
dusky drum
bukkitTask = new BukkitRunnable(){
@Override
public void run() {
try {
syncCrops();
} catch (SQLException e) {
e.printStackTrace();
}
}
}.runTaskTimerAsynchronously(simpleCrops, 0L, updaterTime);
Then just use the BukkitScheduler and you don’t need to invoke the run method and all that boilerplate
prisma wave
//op BM stuff
lmao
dusky drum
you can do lambada
steel heart
Not with BukkitRunnable
dusky drum
let me show ya
steel heart
Consumers can, Runnables can, BukkitRunnables can’t
hot hull
inb4 I use a goddamn Timer smh
old wyvern
Consumers can, Runnables can, BukkitRunnables can’t
@steel heart
Incorrect
steel heart
What’s incorrect?
old wyvern
BukkitRunnables can’t
steel heart
They’re classes?
Afaik it has to be an interface and the interface should only have a single abstract method
Prove me wrong
Anyways the BukkitRunnable is still in api because so many plugins rely on it although it’s useless now when they added Consumer<BukkitTask> to the scheduler
errant geyser
I know its not really a lambda, but IJ used to convert my BukkitRunnables to smth like
() -> BukkitRunnable() {
//do smth here
}``` can't remember exactly what it was, but I think thats as close as you can get without wrapping it yourself to use a lambdathat won't work
steel heart
That wouldn’t work
errant geyser
¯_(ツ)_/¯
steel heart
If you use older versions sure use BukkitRunnable but you shouldn’t use those versions anyways
errant geyser
AJ
hot hull
There's many things you shouldn't
errant geyser
We need to expand the FuckEmpire™️
hot hull
Such as use java, but here we are
prisma wave
FuckJava?
errant geyser
That'd be interesting
dusky drum
ok
steel heart
Gasper did you try ?
steel heart
Maybe yugi can prove me wrong then
old wyvern
They’re classes?
@steel heart
Hmm I assumed they were an interface, nvm
steel heart
Ok there you go
dusky drum
fast reply
old wyvern
as in?
steel heart
Useless
dusky drum
but you can use Consumer<BukkitTask>
steel heart
^
dusky drum
There are methods to take Runnable or BukkitRunnable, and recently a Consumer<BukkitTask> was added to those that take BukkitRunnable instances so you can lambda-ify them ;) That being said, sometimes you need a Runnable (if you need not cancel or further manipulate your runnable), others you need a BukkitRunnable. It depends on your use case.
Choco
errant geyser
Conclure for IAL do we store a list of ActionItems somewhere that I can loop through for the getByUUID thingy
steel heart
Hmm we got maps?
dusky drum
hashmap
steel heart
I don’t know I can check 1 sec
Multi maps
Lukman, no md5 said that BukkitRunnable is useless in newer versions where Consumer<BukkitTask> exists
And ask choco that as well
steel heart
Only reason to use BukkitRunnable as I said before is if you’re using an older version.
dusky drum
idk when bukkittask was added
errant geyser
Ok its in the AbstractListener, we store a MultiMap<UUID, Action<T>>
steel heart
1.8+
dusky drum
so i dont see an issue.
dusky drum
with runnables
steel heart
Runnable or BukkitRunnable?
steel heart
No issue with BukkitRunnable but it’s useless
prisma wave
@errant geyser doesn't that defeat the point?
errant geyser
of?
errant geyser
steel heart
BukkitRunnable can’t have lambdas expressed on it which means when you create one you will need to add all lot of redundant stuff where as a consumer of a BukkitTask would allow lambdas, afaik they have pretty much the same methods.
dusky drum
i love when youtube plays 20 seconds non skippable add.
prisma wave
Imagine not having adblock
errant geyser
The only good use case for those macs with a slidey bar
steel heart
Kotsu I will into that when I arrive at home
errant geyser
Also yeah, AdBlock is kinda 🔥
dusky drum
ehj
just use raspberry ruter and put all trafic thru it and block ads thru there
ez
steel heart
But I think you just get all the uuids from the different map, we do have a map in the manager containing all different types
errant geyser
We do have a Map<ActionType<?>, AbstractListener<?>> in the manager yeah, so I can do dis
steel heart
Yeah loop through values
prisma wave
Ew O(n)
steel heart
Okay so when do we get another multi?
onyx loom
tell fc
steel heart
(:
steel heart
compact perchBOT
dusky drum
rip
steel heart
@pallid gale new multi
errant geyser
He spun it woooooooooooooo
steel heart
Gg