#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 142

obtuse gale Jul 27, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Shade fuck1,8

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 4:22 PM

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fuck1.8 is 500kb?

jovial warren Jul 27, 2020, 4:22 PM

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and mine is supposed to be as small as possible

obtuse gale Jul 27, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Probably not lol

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 4:24 PM

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shade papi and packetlistenerapi
thats 480kb fingerguns_reversed

jovial warren Jul 27, 2020, 4:25 PM

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he's already shaded PAPI

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 4:25 PM

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o

hot hull Jul 27, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I've not

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Why would I kek

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 4:25 PM

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because for that 6.9mb

ocean quartz Jul 27, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I think the image idea is the best one, you can control it better

analog crater Jul 27, 2020, 4:29 PM

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And if someone decompiles it then have a nice 69 image

hot hull Jul 27, 2020, 4:30 PM

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"decompiles"

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You do realize it's OS right?

jovial warren Jul 27, 2020, 4:31 PM

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lol

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you know what people are like

hot hull Jul 27, 2020, 4:31 PM

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stupid yea

jovial warren Jul 27, 2020, 4:32 PM

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there's gonna be that one guy who decompiles an open-source plugin

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 4:32 PM

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One of my libraries might be about 500kb

old wyvern Jul 27, 2020, 5:02 PM

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https://youtu.be/NIOYdwhp12Q

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Yo who designed that webpage 👀

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😂

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Changes "silver" to "diamond", award shipped 👍

hot hull Jul 27, 2020, 5:06 PM

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@onyx loom It is time to finally finish FJ fingerguns_reversed

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 5:11 PM

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ew

hot hull Jul 27, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Okay :c

jovial warren Jul 27, 2020, 5:28 PM

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is it just me or is it really DAMN ANNOYING when IntelliJ and literally every other JetBrains IDE just forces itself in to focus when you're trying to do something else

hot hull Jul 27, 2020, 5:29 PM

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As in the hover over app?

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I have literally never had that happen

jovial warren Jul 27, 2020, 6:30 PM

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no, when you start it up, these windows pop up that grab your focus

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if you're not focused on IntelliJ when it starts up it'll grab your focus

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otherwise it won't

dawn hinge Jul 27, 2020, 6:40 PM

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yeah those are pretty annoying

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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WHOS RAPH

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prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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WHAT

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WHERE

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/kotlinmemes/comments/hggooe/im_kotsexual/fz6no1w?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

r/kotlinmemes - Comment by u/Raph0007 on ”I'm kotsexual...”

6 votes and 4 comments so far on Reddit

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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CRUSADE

old wyvern Jul 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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You made me create a reddit account

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😂

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jk

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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WOW

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Guns7

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I mean

old wyvern Jul 27, 2020, 8:48 PM

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😂

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:49 PM

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It's not even incorrect

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like

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love it or hate it, Kotlin arrays > Java Arrays

old wyvern Jul 27, 2020, 8:49 PM

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nah im just downvoting for the sake of it

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:49 PM

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😦

old wyvern Jul 27, 2020, 8:49 PM

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check again

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:49 PM

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~~I mean the difference isn't really that big~~

old wyvern Jul 27, 2020, 8:49 PM

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prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:49 PM

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ty

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@lunar cypress you sure about that

quick flume Jul 27, 2020, 8:50 PM

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📎 xbxewyx3ib751.png

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:50 PM

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😎

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it's a great subreddit

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some would say the best

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I was talking to some people, and they said what a great subreddit it was

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I'm still in need for a proper programming circlejerk subreddit

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:51 PM

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yeah, r/programmingcirclejerk is kinda dead

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I want gamingcirclejerk

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:51 PM

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it's just "rust good"

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:51 PM

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But with programming

remote goblet Jul 27, 2020, 8:51 PM

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emojiplead

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prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:51 PM

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that would be brilliant

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I'm not sure how it would work though

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:52 PM

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You see the issue is that there aren't enough programmers that aren't part of the circlejerk but also know what they're talking about

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:52 PM

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yeah

old wyvern Jul 27, 2020, 8:52 PM

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xD

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prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:52 PM

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there's also not that much irony unlike GCJ

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:53 PM

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At least on reddit

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Programmerhumor makes you realise that

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:53 PM

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programmerhumor is pretty boring

old wyvern Jul 27, 2020, 8:53 PM

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how does reddit work oof

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:53 PM

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it's just the same joke

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over and over

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 8:54 PM

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kotlinmemes is just the best subreddit

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theres no questioning it

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:54 PM

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^

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so true

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it's the only sub you need

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So I was minding my own business when some STINKY Java user had the NERVE to tell me that kotlin was bad. My blood was boiling, I had never encountered such a RUDE person in my life.

And it gets worse.

They showed me their GitHub profile. You wouldn't believe it.

ALL PINNED REPOSITORIES WRITTEN IN 100% JAVA

I couldn't handle it. I felt sick. How did they plan to easily maintain a growing code base with this much boilerplate? And the repos had hundreds of stars. Are you seriously telling me that there are hundreds of SICK, DELUDED people in this world???

This needs to stop one way or another.

As a member of the Kotlin Klub i propose we declare war on the FILTHY Java users and eradicate them once and for all. They have gone too far this time.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

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Damn we should use this when there's a multi

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Oh no gotta clean up my pinned repositories

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😳

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:55 PM

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it's quite a good copypasta if I do say so myself

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 8:55 PM

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ALL PINNED REPOSITORIES WRITTEN IN 100% JAVA
this gets me every time

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:55 PM

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😡

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oh no

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wait

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https://img.bristermitten.me/chrome_2Hc97l95Ww.png

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NO

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:56 PM

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I hate that my JNI project shows Java instead of Rust because od the javadocs

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 8:56 PM

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uh oh

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:56 PM

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lmao

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 8:56 PM

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atleast pdm has an excuse 🙂

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:56 PM

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true

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I had to use Java because of the so called "majority of users"

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 8:58 PM

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🤮 🤮 🤮

heady birch Jul 27, 2020, 8:58 PM

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@lunar cypress Hi

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 8:58 PM

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i feel SO SORRY for the pain that u had to go through making it

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Thanks

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It was very painful

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And I'm not even joking

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:58 PM

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👋 @heady birch

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:58 PM

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CompletableFutures high-key suck

heady birch Jul 27, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I am a beginner rust user

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I guess you could say my rust is slightly "rusty"

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 8:59 PM

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coroutines on the other hand Guns7

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:59 PM

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My condolences

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:59 PM

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fingerguns

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Rust bad kotlin good?

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I'm literally too dumb for rust

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Low level programming is scary

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pointers

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 8:59 PM

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It's not even low level

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 8:59 PM

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😱

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rust is reasonably low level

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:00 PM

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And you rarely have to deal with pointers

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Compared to JVM

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Well yes relatively

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In terms of the runtime

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But the language itself is very high level

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:00 PM

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yeah actually

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Rust is quite good

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:01 PM

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You tried it?

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:01 PM

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A little

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Nothing major, just a hello world and stuff

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But it seemed quite nice

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Yeah

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 9:01 PM

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hello world

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🙂

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Wait until you get to the infamous fights with the borrow checker

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:02 PM

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uh oh

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sounds scary

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Yes it's terrifying

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"Hey you can't use that variable here because you don't own it anymore"

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B*tch

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:03 PM

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:/

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Ownership and lifetimes are confusing

heady birch Jul 27, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Whats difference between pointers and &

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aint & a reference/basically a pointer?

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:03 PM

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I think so

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:03 PM

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References are safe pointers

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:03 PM

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& is just the syntax for getting the pointer of an object afaik

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Basically

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:04 PM

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is it called "destructuring"?

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Idk

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Wut

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:04 PM

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object > pointer

heady birch Jul 27, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Actually I remember something like that

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Dereferencing you mean? That's the opposite

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:04 PM

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yeah ik

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I mean the opposite of dereferencing

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is there a name for that?

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Don't think so

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Borrowing

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Idk

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Yeah that's probably the best term

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I see

heady birch Jul 27, 2020, 9:09 PM

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yeah its annoying

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:10 PM

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My main issue with rust is its incredibly complex type system though

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I am so lost there

heady birch Jul 27, 2020, 9:10 PM

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what do you mean

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structs and traits

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:11 PM

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All those traits that shift between language and user space and some of which implicitely declare other traits, lifetimes, generics

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I simply realised that Rust is definitely not my cup of tea

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I like GC

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I like functional programming

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I like solution-oriented abstractions

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 9:15 PM

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is it convention to put a space before the : in the function return type?
e.g fun canRegister(): Boolean {
or fun canRegister() : Boolean {

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 9:15 PM

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No

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You use the space for extended classes/interfaces in class declarations usually

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But everywhere else no

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 9:16 PM

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yeah thought so, was a little bit confused because of that

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thanks

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Basically IJ follows kotlin conventions unless told otherwise

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So

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Just format if you're unsure

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 9:18 PM

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o ive never used that

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Ctrl Alt L?

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 9:20 PM

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correct

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Imagine not having it in muscle memory

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You need to press it at least every 3 seconds

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Or your code will be LITERALLY unreadable

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 9:21 PM

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dont need to when u already follow the convention 🙂

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:21 PM

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that's effort tho

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focus on writing the important stuff

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let IJ make it look pretty

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 9:21 PM

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its muscle memory for me to already do this

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 9:22 PM

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effort

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

compact perchBOT Jul 27, 2020, 11:00 PM

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There is no time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

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There is no time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

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There is no time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 11:01 PM

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wrong channel lol

old wyvern Jul 27, 2020, 11:01 PM

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#development

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 11:01 PM

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also you only need to ask once

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#general-plugins ...?

old wyvern Jul 27, 2020, 11:02 PM

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let me get my glasses

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i cnt damn see a thing without going near the monitor soo much

topaz bay Jul 27, 2020, 11:09 PM

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@lone trench 14:55 PM

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Something... is off here...

regal gale Jul 27, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Uhm...

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📎 Screenshot_20200728-061737_Discord.jpg

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should I?

onyx loom Jul 27, 2020, 11:21 PM

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absolutely not

prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 11:23 PM

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I don't think that's even possible?

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not easily anyway

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there's no script engine for java that I know of

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and everything would have to be inside a class

lunar cypress Jul 27, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Depends on what you need

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But a public eval command is a terrible idea in almost every way imaginable

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You should only do this if you know exactly what you're doing, have put the right security measures in place and use a containerised environment

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So short answer no you should probably not

frail glade Jul 27, 2020, 11:54 PM

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@prisma wave What kind of data size is that?

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prisma wave Jul 27, 2020, 11:57 PM

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good question fingerguns

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I thought I fixed that lol

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apparently not

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 12:09 AM

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5 Ultra 0 KB

onyx loom Jul 28, 2020, 12:10 AM

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😮

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Unsigned 0 KB?

lone trench Jul 28, 2020, 12:18 AM

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? @topaz bay

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Here is the reason for his comment:
If you're using 24h style there is no point in adding AM/PM
You have 14:56 PM, 14 already implies afternoon so the PM is redundant

topaz bay Jul 28, 2020, 1:07 AM

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THIS

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sorry caps

rotund egret Jul 28, 2020, 1:10 AM

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For those times when you want to make sure the reader knows it's after noon

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:14 AM

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@lunar cypress even if i did that, i just do it privately for myself thonking

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Ooh wait, Kotlin 1.4.0-rc is a release version?

distant sun Jul 28, 2020, 3:28 AM

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24h clock best clock, change my mind

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 3:29 AM

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^

topaz bay Jul 28, 2020, 3:36 AM

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@ocean quartz rc = release candidate

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Oh okay, converting a project to Kotlin and IJ suggested that version

topaz bay Jul 28, 2020, 3:39 AM

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thats strange

rotund egret Jul 28, 2020, 3:39 AM

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helluva candidate

topaz bay Jul 28, 2020, 3:40 AM

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cocaine is a helluva drug

rotund egret Jul 28, 2020, 3:41 AM

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I guess

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Shrooms are more my thing

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 3:44 AM

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140 lines to 90 after converting

topaz bay Jul 28, 2020, 3:50 AM

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@ocean quartz what the hell

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That still sounds like way too much

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lol

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Most of it are comments and empty lines

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 5:51 AM

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@golden gust That's not a developer, that's a configurator fingerguns_reversed

golden gust Jul 28, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I got a developer who helped me out, all gucci.

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🙂

opaque dust Jul 28, 2020, 7:48 AM

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how can help me

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https://hastebin.com/ojupasemev.bash

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My bungeecord is not working

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Caused by: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: net.md_5.bungee.UserConnection.getDimension()I
at com.mcmylx.quickswitch.bungee.lIIlIlIlIIllIlI.IlIIllIIlIIllIl(e:129)
at com.mcmylx.quickswitch.bungee.lIIlIlIlIIllIlI.encode(e:104)

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Incorrect version I'm assuming

frail glade Jul 28, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Iiiilllllliiii

opaque dust Jul 28, 2020, 7:54 AM

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What is it?

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how to fix

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 7:54 AM

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QuickSwitch is a plugin I'm guessing

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I can tell you it's shit cause it's obfuscated fingerguns_reversed

opaque dust Jul 28, 2020, 7:55 AM

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ok thanks

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I deleted those plugins xD

mighty forge Jul 28, 2020, 8:43 AM

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Could anyone let me know if you think it would be possible to create a 3rd party relational PAPI placeholder extension for Towny (https://github.com/TownyAdvanced/Towny/wiki/TownyAPI / https://townyadvanced.github.io/Towny/). Basically a placeholder that outputs different colours for the viewer depending on if the viewer's towny nation is an enemy or ally to the target player's towny nation (how it works for the faction relation placeholders). I don't want to make a paid request if it isn't possible. Feel free to ping, happy with any help.

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Should be possible yea

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Is anybody versed in graph theory here?

heady birch Jul 28, 2020, 9:44 AM

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what kind of graph

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:44 AM

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What do you call a node in a directed graph that you can't reach anymore?

heady birch Jul 28, 2020, 9:44 AM

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cant reach anymore?

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no idea

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Say you have the following simple directed graph

/
B C
\ /
D

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 9:45 AM

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with kotlin since == becomes .equals should I be using === for enums?

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:45 AM

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With the direction going from top to bottom

lunar cypress Jul 28, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Doesn't matter @obtuse gale

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:45 AM

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if you are at B, you can't reach C anymore

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Well you technically can fingerguns_reversed

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:46 AM

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So I call A a passed node, D is a reachable node but I need a name from C

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Unreachable node?

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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I had that as well but technically A is an unreachable node as well

heady birch Jul 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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why cant you get back to C?

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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so I don't want any ambiguity

heady birch Jul 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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because the arrows are directed to B

lunar cypress Jul 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Because of the direction

heady birch Jul 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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ok

gilded basin Jul 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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linking node?

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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@heady birch because it's a directed graph from top to bottom, I just didn't want to google the utf-8 symbols for the slanted arrows

lunar cypress Jul 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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You can only ever pass one node in a layer

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Well not really Blocky, since it follows the direction it's reachable

lunar cypress Jul 28, 2020, 9:48 AM

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Not if you're already on B

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It becomes unreachable

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:48 AM

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If you are on B, A is not reachable anymore

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 9:48 AM

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I mean yea

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:48 AM

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but I need to distinguish nodes that you already went through to get to B from nodes that you did not go through and can't ever reach anymore

gilded basin Jul 28, 2020, 9:49 AM

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one-way node, linking node?

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Any naming ideas besides "unreachable"?

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how does linking node fit?

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they are all one-way nodes

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maybe disconnected node?

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Fuck sometimes it sucks not to be a native speaker

lunar cypress Jul 28, 2020, 10:07 AM

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This is terminology, this has nothing to do with being a native speaker

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You just need to know the subject

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I'm p sure you just call it unreachable

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:08 AM

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This is terminology, this has nothing to do with being a native speaker
@lunar cypress Well yeah but if the terminology doesn't exist or I can't find any reference to it, then I get to invent my own

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I think I'll go with isolated node

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 11:48 AM

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whats the difference between sources and generated sources

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analog crater Jul 28, 2020, 11:53 AM

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redacted I was mistaken by a different generated sources

lunar cypress Jul 28, 2020, 12:01 PM

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What?

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Generated sources are mostly for annotation processors

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So if you're using some annotation processor that generates source code that goes in there

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:40 PM

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@jovial warren So where's that pr fingerguns_reversed

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:40 PM

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er... yeah... about that...

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I may or may not have just kinda er... got bored after a bit and just went and did my own thing lol

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:41 PM

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@prisma wave Counting on you now angry_fingerguns

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:41 PM

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I've got a custom world border plugin to make now that I'm getting paid for, otherwise I'd be right on it

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Yea no worries, gotta get that moola

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:42 PM

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mate, first time I'm getting paid for actual work I've done lol

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:42 PM

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What you working on?

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:42 PM

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well, not really actually, though I suppose helping your 69 year old (yes, she's 69) grandmother out in the garden doesn't quite count

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What you working on?
just said, custom border

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gotta basically make a GUI-based system that allows any player on a server to upgrade the world's border

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it's really easy, but it's gotta be fully configurable which is slightly annoying lol

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Not really hard, make sure you're using Matt's gui framework fingerguns_reversed

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:44 PM

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yeah I will

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and Kotlin of course

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:44 PM

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yeye

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:44 PM

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you know, I still remember when you hated Kotlin lol

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in fact, I still remember when I thought Java + Lombok > Kotlin

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Lombok doodoo

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:45 PM

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yeah ik

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it defeats the point of using Java

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but I hated, and still hate, boilerplate

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Time to test out pdm fingerguns_reversed

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:46 PM

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yeah it's not bad

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Muhahaha i finally made something to my bot

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:49 PM

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what?

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Ignore him, he just randomly says things from time to time

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:49 PM

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yeah, I've seen that

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 12:50 PM

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@hot hull yo

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 12:50 PM

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#showcase

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@jovial warren ^

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:51 PM

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yeah it didn't make sense why you said "I finally made something to my bot"

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 12:51 PM

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How on earth did you do that?

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Is that the same thing that JShell uses?

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 12:51 PM

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BeanShell helps

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Or Java Compiler 6, but i don't want to waste files on my discord app

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 12:52 PM

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Ah

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Quite cool

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Although a bit impractical

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:53 PM

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KM, fingerguns_reversed PR

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:53 PM

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how do you parse that sort of code btw @regal gale ?

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like how do you parse text as code?

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and then get the output from the console and format that

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 12:53 PM

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That was too easy tbh

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http://www.beanshell.org/javadoc/bsh/Interpreter.html

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All you have to do is use Interpreter and then eval the entire code

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:54 PM

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@obtuse gale What's your github

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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@hot hull gimme a sec, what do you actually need me to do?

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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usually when I look for people's GitHub I look up their Discord username (~~unless of course their name is Alex Wood, who likes to have a different username for absolutely no reason~~)

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Move the actions from old one to new one, then overall cleanup

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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I was worried that the method declaration doesn't work on Interpreter tbh

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Ok

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

#

https://github.com/Aj3douglas

GitHub

Aj3douglas - Overview

Aj3douglas#1552. Aj3douglas has 8 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

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the one with the schlong profile pic

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Apparently I gotta change shit myself, since you too lazy smh Aj

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

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ive just fucked my version of it lol

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

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And I can't be fucked with changing to latest gradle and cleaning it up cause this mcdev shit outdated af

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 12:56 PM

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tryna fix something else and it broke something else

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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why is your username different from your discord Alex? @prisma wave

quiet depot Jul 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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because clojure is the best language

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Yes

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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never used it

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Wait Aj, so what's the current status of it?

quiet depot Jul 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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neither

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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the one on that repo should work, however sometimes it doesnt add the kotlin plugin

quiet depot Jul 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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it's a lisp dialect on the jvm, that's all you need to know

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

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well, I mean, just about every JVM language other than Java is better than Java lol

quiet depot Jul 28, 2020, 12:58 PM

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i love java

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:58 PM

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I mean, they have Java as an example of what not to do I suppose

quiet depot Jul 28, 2020, 12:58 PM

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java's really not that bad

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there's plenty of languages that suit your description far better than java

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 12:58 PM

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true

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Java's not bad, it's just not as good as some other languages around it

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 12:58 PM

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@prisma wave what operation do you want me to test if it work on this BeanShell? thonking

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Ternary works. Nice

📎 Screenshot_3.png

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 1:02 PM

#

try this: ```kotlin
val myNumber = 10
val myOtherNumber = 20

println("The total is: ${myNumber + myOtherNumber}")

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bet that won't parse

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Hey, no fair ;p

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 1:03 PM

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F

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you should support the superior Kotlin

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Erm.. why thonking

📎 Screenshot_4.png

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I already have that :)

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 1:05 PM

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wait it actually parses the superior?

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gj

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:05 PM

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So far my bot have 3 script evaluators

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Js, Kt and Java

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 1:06 PM

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also btw @ocean quartz why do the MF guides say you have to relocate the package?

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surely relocation should be optional

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Stop complaining about people relocating shit sheesh

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 1:06 PM

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I'm just curious lol

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Because you don't want your plugin using classes from a different plugin with an outdated version of the same lib, making your plugin break
Always relocate the libs

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 1:07 PM

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wait that can happen?

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since when could plugins share the same dependencies like that?

errant geyser Jul 28, 2020, 1:08 PM

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They share the same class loader don't they?

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 1:09 PM

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yeah that'll be it

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you're right

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:09 PM

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How does .any{ } work?

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Yes
The plugin that loads first will load the classes of the lib
Since your plugin will have the same path to the lib it'll use the loaded one instead

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 1:09 PM

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also @ocean quartz compile smh

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:09 PM

#

private fun getClosableBlockByName(element: PsiElement, name: String) =
        element.children.asSequence()
                .filter {
                    // We want to find the child which has a GrReferenceExpression with the right name
                    it.children.any { child -> child is GrReferenceExpression && child.text == name }
                }.map {
                    // We want to find the grandchild which is a GrClosable block
                    it.children.mapNotNull { child -> child as? GrClosableBlock }.firstOrNull()
                }.filterNotNull()
                .firstOrNull()``` in this context

jovial warren Jul 28, 2020, 1:09 PM

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https://mf.mattstudios.me/mf/mf-1/setup/gradle

Gradle

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:09 PM

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@obtuse gale any returns true if any elements match the predicate

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:09 PM

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aight

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:10 PM

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@regal gale idk, does var work?

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@jovial warren
Because not everyone can appreciate Clojure

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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@regal gale idk, does var work?
@prisma wave ?

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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var

errant geyser Jul 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Java 11? I think it is, has var

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Introduced in Java 10

errant geyser Jul 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Close enough

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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and BeanShell says it adds some scripting features

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so

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Idk how var used in the format

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It's just like kotlin, right?

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 1:13 PM

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var name = "Name";

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Same as js no?

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:13 PM

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If so, yep it worked

📎 Screenshot_5.png

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Same as kotlin AND js

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Cool

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Although var only works for local variables which kinda sucks

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:15 PM

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I only know var in java so far

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val in java definitely throws error

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:15 PM

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val doesn't exist

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Yeah xD

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:15 PM

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it's final var

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 1:15 PM

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disgusting

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Frosty's favorite final :)

#

It still feels weird that I still have to use semicolon after each line, or else it won't work

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If var works on this eval then I think it support lambda too, i guess

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:19 PM

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wait you still have to use semicolons? In a scripting language??

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Yes

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My failed attempt earlier

📎 Screenshot_6.png

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:20 PM

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stupid beanshell

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:20 PM

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The scripting still think the entire script is 1 line if you don't use semicolon

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:22 PM

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why would this return null

#

private fun getClosableBlockByName(element: PsiElement, name: String): GrClosableBlock? {
    println(element.text)
    println(name)
    return element.children.asSequence()
            .filter {
                // We want to find the child which has a GrReferenceExpression with the right name
                it.children.any { child ->
                    println("child.text = ${child.text} - Name: $name")
                    child is GrReferenceExpression && child.text == name
                }
            }.map {
                // We want to find the grandchild which is a GrClosable block
                it.children.mapNotNull { child -> child as? GrClosableBlock }.firstOrNull()
            }.filterNotNull()
            .firstOrNull()
}```

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:25 PM

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There are loads of different reasons

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:25 PM

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lol

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how would one find the reason

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:25 PM

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stupid beanshell
@prisma wave well uh.. i'm speechless xD

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:29 PM

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only returns null if I give that bad boy the name parameter plugins

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Well there are no elements with the text "plugins"?

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:33 PM

#

o

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fixed it

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@hot hull 2018.3 right?

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Yea

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:38 PM

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dead version

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Eat my a$$

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:38 PM

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ok

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:39 PM

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I fixed my problem after...

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alot of testing

#

📎 unknown.png

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 1:39 PM

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<idea-version since-build="183" until-build="183.*"/>
I assumed this is all I needed to change, but doesn't look like it

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:40 PM

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o

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is it not?

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 1:40 PM

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I keep getting a gradle error saying 2019.3 not found or some shit, so not sure

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But I can't find any version specific shit anywhere else

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:42 PM

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maybe try 183.*

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https://jetbrains.org/intellij/sdk/docs/basics/getting_started/build_number_ranges.html

JetBrains IntelliJ Platform SDK

Build Number Ranges

Documentation for working with and extending the IntelliJ Platform SDK

#

imma test some stuff once my intertnet manages to download this lol

📎 unknown.png

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Cannot find builtin plugin repository-search for IDE: C:\Users\Frosty.gradle\caches\modules-2\files-2.1\com.jetbrains.intellij.idea\ideaIC\2019.3\5a74bbe98a814d61e6069abd0902b46668f1278c\ideaIC-2019.3

tacit cave Jul 28, 2020, 1:43 PM

#

           for (players in Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers()) {
                players.playSound((Location) players.getWorld(), Sound.ENTITY_ENDERMEN_SCREAM, 1.0)```

#

How to fix it?

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:44 PM

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thats not java?

tacit cave Jul 28, 2020, 1:44 PM

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it's kotlin

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:44 PM

#

og tw

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oh yea

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just do a forEach

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:44 PM

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It also runs Class, cool

📎 Screenshot_7.png

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:44 PM

#

Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().forEach{

}```

#

also saying ur issue would help lol

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:45 PM

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@tacit cave what is the problem?

tacit cave Jul 28, 2020, 1:45 PM

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wait lemme ss

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Can't screenshot.

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:47 PM

#

?imgur

compact perchBOT Jul 28, 2020, 1:47 PM

#

FAQ Answer:

You won't be able to upload images here directly to avoid spam, so please use https://imgur.com/ to upload images/screenshots.

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:47 PM

#

O

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I just got the same error frcsty

tacit cave Jul 28, 2020, 1:47 PM

#

I mean

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:47 PM

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ffs this build.gradle.kts is 300 lines long

tacit cave Jul 28, 2020, 1:53 PM

#

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736750073324634143/737669089148797069/Screenshot_1.png

#

there's the rror

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error*

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:54 PM

#

can you even cast like that in kotlin?

#

also btw i dont think casing a world to a location will work but idk

#

just use Player#getLoc ation

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 1:57 PM

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there's a LOT wrong there

#

maybe just send the code

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:57 PM

#

        Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().forEach{
            it.playSound(it.location, Sound.ENTITY_ENDERMAN_SCREAM, 1F, 1F)
        }```

tacit cave Jul 28, 2020, 2:00 PM

#

        Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().forEach{
            it.playSound(it.location, Sound.ENTITY_ENDERMAN_SCREAM, 1F, 1F)
        }```

@obtuse gale that's code from java?

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 2:00 PM

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@prisma wave 4 of the old actions haven't been converted from the java version yet, can you look at those?

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 2:00 PM

#

no

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 2:00 PM

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That's kotlin Epic

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 2:00 PM

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thats kotlin RedEpic

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 2:00 PM

#

@hot hull alright

tacit cave Jul 28, 2020, 2:00 PM

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eh nvm wrong read lol

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 2:00 PM

#

It's uses reflection, and it's messy af so didn't even know where to start

#

Anyhow Aj, lemme know if you figure anything out

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 2:03 PM

#

ill go check out what the normal mc dev plugin for that version uses

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 2:03 PM

#

I copied it from that version

#

But I assume more than just that cahnged

#

changed*

tacit cave Jul 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

#

just want to ask something

#

when kotlin is being updated?

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to 1.4 release

onyx loom Jul 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

#

soon™️

#

the release candidate just came out

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

#

Prolly won't take too long, it's already on RC

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 2:38 PM

#

@obtuse gale Any luck?

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 2:38 PM

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just went to bed

#

nop

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 2:38 PM

#

4PM

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 2:38 PM

#

got double science tommorow so i should be able to do it during that lol

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 2:38 PM

#

Wait you got school?

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

#

mmmm

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

#

ew

#

@old wyvern DMs fingerguns_reversed

old wyvern Jul 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

#

Yea trying to open that webpage

#

My broadband died today morning

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

#

rip

old wyvern Jul 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

#

So stuck on mobile data rn

obtuse gale Jul 28, 2020, 2:39 PM

#

Plus like my school is in NSW and everyone comes from VIC so it kinda defeats the purpose of them blocking off the borders thonking

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 5:26 PM

#

@ocean quartz The inventory types are included in the latest mf gui ver right?

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 5:26 PM

#

Yeah

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 5:27 PM

#

fingerguns_reversed

topaz bay Jul 28, 2020, 5:31 PM

#

https://github.com/VoxMcNetwork/xel

GitHub

VoxMcNetwork/xel

Simple Entity-Component-System. Contribute to VoxMcNetwork/xel development by creating an account on GitHub.

errant geyser Jul 28, 2020, 5:58 PM

#

tf is VoxMc Sx

old wyvern Jul 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

#

He was just showing clip an example for managing repository with github

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 6:13 PM

#

hello clever people, I've got a bit of a code structure question:
I'm parsing an XML document, but the parsing should be in different stages (different stages extract different bits of data).
A stage might need to use data from a previous stage
At the end, all of the stage's data should be collected up into a final object representation

Currently I've defined ```java
public interface ParseStage<T>
{
@NotNull
T parse(@NotNull Document document);
}

but I'm conscious of the fact that this would require a central class to execute all the stages sequentially (and therefore the stages would need hard coding, breaking the open-closed principle). 
Any ideas?

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 6:14 PM

#

XML 🤢

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 6:14 PM

#

I also considered having an ArtifactBuilder that gets parsed to each stage (the final object created from the parsed data is an Artifact) but the mutability seems like it could cause problems, and also I'd need to have fields for each bit of data being extracted (going back to effectively hardcoding)

#

XML 🤢
parsing data from a maven repository, I have no choice 😦

errant geyser Jul 28, 2020, 6:17 PM

#

Also

#

TRAITOR

#

Is that

#

JAVA

#

🤢

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 6:18 PM

#

gotta keep the PDM runtime small ¯_(ツ)_/¯

errant geyser Jul 28, 2020, 6:19 PM

#

PDM is written in Kotlin though isn't it?

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 6:19 PM

#

bit of both

#

the runtime is Java, as is the common library (that the runtime and Gradle plugin use, it handles querying maven repositories and things), but the gradle plugin is in Kotlin

#

and the Unit tests for every module will be in kotlin

topaz bay Jul 28, 2020, 6:20 PM

#

@prisma wave why are you manually parsing xml?

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 6:20 PM

#

once I finish them

#

@topaz bay as opposed to what?

#

oh

errant geyser Jul 28, 2020, 6:20 PM

#

You want me to learn/try out Clojure, yet you don't even make PDM in Kotlin

#

😡

topaz bay Jul 28, 2020, 6:20 PM

#

the built in parsing??

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 6:20 PM

#

No, I'm not manually parsing

#

I'm using Document and stuff, I just want to split the extraction of the parsed data into different stages

#

possibly bad wording

#

You want me to learn/try out Clojure, yet you don't even make PDM in Kotlin
making it in Kotlin would add ~2MB onto every single plugin using it, that ain't gonna work out

#

@topaz bay Speaking a bit more specifically, here's what actually needs to happen:
Extract all the elements from <properties> and load into a memory representation
Extract everything from <dependencies>, using data from the properties if necessary.

Having everything in the same class seemed like a bad idea, so how would you lay it out?

remote goblet Jul 28, 2020, 6:45 PM

#

this is still my favourite code to exist

class CoolPlugin {
  override fun onEnable() {
    Thread.sleep(String.MAX_VALUE)
  }

  val String.Companion.MAX_VALUE: Long
    get() = Long.MAX_VALUE
}

heady birch Jul 28, 2020, 6:46 PM

#

wtf

#

String

remote goblet Jul 28, 2020, 6:46 PM

#

yes

#

String.MAX_VALUE

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 6:48 PM

#

Lol

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 6:49 PM

#

That is an accurate representation of the power of Kotlin

remote goblet Jul 28, 2020, 6:49 PM

#

can't do that in Java wonk

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 6:50 PM

#

Well you kinda could, but it'd only cosmetically be a string

heady birch Jul 28, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

it changes nothing

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 6:52 PM

#

you literally couldn't do String.MAX_VALUE

#

without a compiler hack of some sort

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

#

I mean you could have your own String class fingerguns_reversed

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

#

true

#

but who wants to do that

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

#

Noone

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

#

having classes with the same name as built-in classes is an antipattern

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

#

@topaz bay You've just made my life easier with that expansion, danke

distant sun Jul 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

What expansion?

onyx loom Jul 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

gradient

topaz bay Jul 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

#

@hallow crane https://semver.org

Semantic Versioning

Semantic Versioning 2.0.0

Semantic Versioning spec and website

somber tulip Jul 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

#

If I was to make something where people can bid on slots in a menu, how might I structure that? So it can be expanded on? I originally thought nested maps e.g Map<Integer<Player, Integer>> for <Slot<Player Who Bid, Amount Bid>> but I'm not sure if that's the best way.

📎 Screenshot_2020-07-28_at_22.13.29.png

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

#

I think you could make an object for that, for example Map<Integer, Bids> and in Bids you'd have a Map with players who big and their amount
But I'm not sure if that's the best way either

#

xD

somber tulip Jul 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

#

I'll give it a shot, that menu in the image is a plugin I actually made but its internals are poor as i didn't know how to structure it

analog crater Jul 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

#

^ Encapsulation is way better than nested maps

somber tulip Jul 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

#

Looks like that's the best way then so far, I'll give it a go and see how we do ;p

frail glade Jul 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

#

I mean we don't really care about performance, right?

analog crater Jul 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

#

I mean we are spigot devs so yeah, we dont care

#

The spigot jar is dragging us down anyway

somber tulip Jul 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

#

Is there a better / easier to use way? But also I'm not too fussed about microsecond performance increases just ease of use and future adaptations

analog crater Jul 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

#

Encapsulation is eaiser/future proof

#

And more performance friendly

somber tulip Jul 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

Okay, thanks

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

Objects good fingerguns_reversed

analog crater Jul 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

And I OOP

hot hull Jul 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

And I oop yes

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

Oooh this is cool, using 1.4-rc

📎 unknown.png

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

functional interfaces are cool

frail glade Jul 28, 2020, 9:33 PM

#

I don't get it

#

Nothing is fun about running

#

Its so tiring

errant geyser Jul 28, 2020, 9:35 PM

#

celebration celebration1

topaz bay Jul 28, 2020, 9:53 PM

#

.\gradlew wrapper --gradle-version 6.5.1

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 9:56 PM

#

What is the point of making a function open on an enum?

#

Code converted from Java became open

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 10:00 PM

#

I think it's so a value could theoretically override it

#

Although IJ seems to open a lot of Java functions

old wyvern Jul 28, 2020, 10:00 PM

#

Just means you can override it for particular enums

ocean quartz Jul 28, 2020, 10:03 PM

#

Hmm don't think that's what i want here then

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:08 PM

#

Hm what do you guys think of LuckPerms' method of storing the config data in mysql as opposed to making config files for it?

analog crater Jul 28, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Much better than storing data in config files

#

Config should be read only and the user should input configuration settings

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I mean it's not data per se, is it? it's config. It gets configured once and it's never touched again usually. I am talking about the structure of the permission nodes and such

analog crater Jul 28, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Thats data not config. E.g group abc with permission node x.y.z

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:13 PM

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how is that not config? data would be which player belongs to which group. the groups themselves are config.

analog crater Jul 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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They are the data of the the groups

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Such as group xyz has permission a.b.c with player $uuid who had permission t.u.c

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:16 PM

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But you can say that about every configuration. Like if you have mysql config you can say they are the data of the mysql connection and should not be in a config file...

analog crater Jul 28, 2020, 10:16 PM

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No. Becuase they are user settings

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Plus its better to store in a database becuase they have better schemas than yaml files

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:18 PM

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but the permission groups are user settings in the exact same sense then.

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they do not change (usually)

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as opposed to the data itself

analog crater Jul 28, 2020, 10:18 PM

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They do change

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And why have them in seperate storage systems when they are so closely linked

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And you can make use of ORM aswell as backend for a website using that data

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Hm do you know how LuckPerms is doing that whole webserver thing where you can access that data via the browser?

frail glade Jul 28, 2020, 10:35 PM

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It loads it from a hastebin file

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More or less

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:36 PM

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and the server itself is a remote server set up by the plugin dev?

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How does it communicate with the mc server? or rather the plugin running on the mc server?

frail glade Jul 28, 2020, 10:37 PM

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When you run the editor it converts your data to a string and posts it to the hastebin

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Then it gives you a web editor link that loads the haste bin data

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:37 PM

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right I got it so far

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but how does the web editor communicate back with the plugin?

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 10:37 PM

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afaik it puts the data into another hastebin and the command loads from that

frail glade Jul 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

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When you run the apply edits it does a get request

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:39 PM

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hm hm interesting

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do you think it would be possible to run a webserver from within the plugin?

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or is that too straining on the server resources?

frail glade Jul 28, 2020, 10:39 PM

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It's possible

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That's what dynmap does

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And plan

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And a few others

empty flint Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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hm hm... might be worth looking into...

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I remember dynmap causing lag a lot...

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dunno if it still does

errant geyser Jul 28, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Dynmap causes lag while it renders, yeah

regal gale Jul 28, 2020, 11:43 PM

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For the record, i will never add Clojure scripting on my eval cmd ever again..

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 11:47 PM

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why not??????

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clojure >>>

rotund egret Jul 28, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Well he said again, so he won't add it because he already did :^)

prisma wave Jul 28, 2020, 11:48 PM

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damn good point

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clojure good

pastel imp Jul 29, 2020, 12:06 AM

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yo anyone knows a good mysql "tutorial"

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never worked with mysql

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and before learning how to use it in plugins

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I wanna learn how to actually use it

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.-.

prisma wave Jul 29, 2020, 12:09 AM

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w3 has one iirc

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tbh SQL is pretty easy to learn

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any tutorial will probably do

pastel imp Jul 29, 2020, 12:10 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bW3HuaAUcY watching this one

YouTube

365 Data Science

MySQL IN 10 MINUTES (2020) | Introduction to Databases, SQL, & MySQL

This tutorial provides and introduction to Databases, SQL and the open source relational database- MySQL
** Expand for some additional INFO and LINKS **

00:12 Introduction to Databases
04:56 Introduction to SQL
06:53 Introduction to MySQL

LINK TO SOME OTHER INTERESTING/RELAT...

▶ Play video

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xd

analog crater Jul 29, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Say I want to create all possible alphanumeric string with any case which is >=1 and <=11. I know that there is 62 characters, so I have 62^11 which gives me the total amount of possible strings. However, from this info how would I get the amount of bits it requires (excluding language overhead. Just the bits for the characters)

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In a 8bit encoding format

onyx loom Jul 29, 2020, 12:19 AM

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nice comment

📎 Screenshot_20200729-011843_YouTube.jpg

old wyvern Jul 29, 2020, 12:20 AM

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62^11 * 11 * 2 * 8

analog crater Jul 29, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Oh. Is it actually that simple?

old wyvern Jul 29, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Yea I guess so

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 12:21 AM

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@topaz bay I require your wisdom, going to try making a JSON message with a syntax that looks similar to markdown, will be nice to learn new things
Example:
[<#e74c3c>**Testing Message**](hover: "<#3498db>*Hover message*")
Will turn into the image under
Any suggestion on how to approach this? Regex probably?

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analog crater Jul 29, 2020, 12:21 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20200729-012146_Calculator.jpg

old wyvern Jul 29, 2020, 12:22 AM

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um no

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(6^11) * 11 * 2*8

analog crater Jul 29, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Oh.

old wyvern Jul 29, 2020, 12:22 AM

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62^11 possibilities (assuming 11 characters) * 11 (characters per possibility) * 2(no. of bytes in a char) * 8

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 12:24 AM

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@ocean quartz knowing me

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I'd write a full blown lexer and parser

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 12:24 AM

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I thought about a lexer as well, sounds fun

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Oh its VERY fun

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I was planning on writing my own grammar syntax, and having that be used as an input to a generic lexer system

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 12:30 AM

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gonna do it 👀

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 12:31 AM

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As soon as I can figure out why gradle javadoc generation is fucking bugged

tacit cave Jul 29, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Does anyone know how to make NPC from Citizen to Hostile Mob, like they attacks player?

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Sx your lexer scares me

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 1:27 AM

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@tacit cave you can try Sentinel

tacit cave Jul 29, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Plugin or Some other Codes?

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Now thats a clean API if I've ever seen one

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@ocean quartz Thank you

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Which one though?

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Theres like at least 4 different ones on my gh xD

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Oh, was looking at this one https://github.com/Sxtanna/odin/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/com/sxtanna/odin/compile/Lexer.kt

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Ah yes...

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The giga lexer

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Relatively small, but extremely powerful

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Its bounds are unknown to the mightiest of programmers

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What scares you about it?

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Everything
I understand about almost nothing xD

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 1:30 AM

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LOL

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You think THATS scary?

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Have you looked at the Typer???

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 1:31 AM

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oh no

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 1:31 AM

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That shit scares even me

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2500 lines of pure EVIL

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Oh god

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 1:31 AM

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@tacit cave plugin

tacit cave Jul 29, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Bruh

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 1:32 AM

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@ocean quartz Did you want me to actually explain it to you? Or were you just commenting on it?

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Just commenting on it, trying to understand how a lexer works so I can see where to start

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 1:33 AM

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lol ok

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I would very much like to see what you come up with

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I'll try to not disappoint xD

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 1:44 AM

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You better not.

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Or I'll come for you

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😈

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 1:55 AM

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That's a start

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topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I admire your token type names

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 1:59 AM

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I wonder if i should use regex for parts of it, i feel like this way it'll be a bit harder xD

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Which parts though?

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Parts of mine were regex at one point, but the increase in speed far outweighs the alternative

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Was thinking about using to get like content between [] etc
But hey I'll keep going this way at least I'll learn something new

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:02 AM

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That's actually not bad

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But then you introduce recursion

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Well I guess there would be recursion anyway, due to your syntax

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Well this is slightly better

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topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:20 AM

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How come those values are separated?

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Printing them in each line instead of the list

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:21 AM

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How are they being parsed?

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^ that they end up being a list and not one value?

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Right now I just took an example from stackoverflow so bare with me xD
Just adds each value to a list based on the found token nothing more

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Wait what...

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I'm so lost

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Same, trust me

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Oh wait, nvm I get it

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It doesnt even know that they are "strings" per se

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Nah, just detects something and puts it on a list nothing more

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:24 AM

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got it

severe ruin Jul 29, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Where do I make a ticket if i need support

remote goblet Jul 29, 2020, 2:33 AM

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you dont

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you go to either #general-plugins / #general-plugins-2 and you may get an answer EmiCool

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:34 AM

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There is no tickets
If you need plugin help head over to #general-plugins or #general-plugins-2
If it's a premium plugin you can #spigot-linking and go to the channel for the plugin you need help with ;p

severe ruin Jul 29, 2020, 2:34 AM

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okay

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Supporting in discord with ticket sounds dumb

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I think

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:34 AM

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It's awful

remote goblet Jul 29, 2020, 2:34 AM

#

EmiPopcorn

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im support team on PlayerWarp's devs discord server

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and everytime someone makes a ticket

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the bot mentions @ everyone

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so i get a notification

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every single goddamn time

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Just don't support that discord 👍

remote goblet Jul 29, 2020, 2:35 AM

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i like bullying the developer

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so ima deal with the pings

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hi olzie EmiCool you suck

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if you're reading this lmao

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:36 AM

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thonking

remote goblet Jul 29, 2020, 2:36 AM

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what

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hes a very easy person to bully and make fun of

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EmiShrug

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Can i bully you with Java

remote goblet Jul 29, 2020, 2:41 AM

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EmiCross

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no

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:43 AM

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📎 SmartSelect_20200729-094337_Discord.jpg

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I've been waiting for kt's first compiler for 2 minutes now..

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Is that normal

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:54 AM

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@frail glade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ran_yU65Xmg

YouTube

Matt Stark

Polaroid effect collisions and multiple photos

I've rebuilt the polaroid effect using mesh slicing so it can handle collisions and multiple photos.

▶ Play video

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YO

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Look at this shit

#

Thats fire

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:57 AM

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This dude got even crazier with this, let me see if i can re find his tweeter, he has way more

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:58 AM

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https://twitter.com/mattstark256

Matt Stark (@mattstark256)

Game developer and student @AbertayUni

Tweets

135

Followers

29845

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Yeah that one!

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:58 AM

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The level loading one is fucking beautiful

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Could imagine if this happened in Minecraft?

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The little preview image shown on the worlds screen?

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Just expanded?!?!?

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And it was world?!??!?!?!

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Ya know.... I think I might make a mod...

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:59 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6sB00nkoeM

YouTube

Creslex

Non Euclidean Minecraft

Who knew a mod that lets you skip the loading time for portals could be so mind-bending???

This Non-Euclidean Mod is the Immersive Portals Mod if you didn't know, it gives of the non-euclidean geometry feeling, it was really trippy and weird!

𝕊𝕦𝕓𝕤𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕚𝕓𝕖 𝕄𝕒𝕥𝕖
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬...

▶ Play video

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This is pretty cool too

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:59 AM

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DUDE

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I fucking LOVE non euclidean game engines

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:59 AM

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They are awesome, would love to try something like that one day

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 3:01 AM

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oooooo

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its the zelda theme in the background

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Took me a while to notice that

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Or some song that uses the motifs of zelda at least

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Aight my brain hurts from this lexer stuff imma head out to bed

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 3:04 AM

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WHAT

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Thats all it takes?!?!?!?

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Oi it's 4am, imma do more tomorrow!

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Mhmm

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Excuses

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😈

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Still not sure how i wanna do it though
Because for example [#000](/guild/164280494874165248/channel/000/)Some text [Some more text](hover: Hover text) *italic test* this will be a valid syntax
I might search for any markdown element, handle it then after parse the colors

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Would it just all be black?

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Not sure, it's either keep the colors throughout or reset once a markdown is found
The resetting sounds easier to do

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 4:34 AM

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90% of the lexer examples and videos are in Phyton

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 4:34 AM

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That makes sense

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Yeah seems pretty simple to do with it

old wyvern Jul 29, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I have a simple lexer if you wanna have a look @ocean quartz

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 6:55 AM

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@obtuse gale

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 7:00 AM

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ree

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Speedy java. Now we can say that Java is better

📎 Screenshot_2.png

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this is a sacarsm, pls don't kill me

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Tough talk for a fella within crusading distance.

lunar cypress Jul 29, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Good testing environment

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 8:19 AM

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Gross

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Imagine not using interpolation

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 9:45 AM

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@ocean quartz

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The almighty power of regex

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 9:53 AM

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cute

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 9:58 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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Why does one even need actual programming

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When you can use the power of finite state machines

rotund egret Jul 29, 2020, 10:14 AM

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regex bad

lunar cypress Jul 29, 2020, 10:31 AM

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because finite state machines do have limits

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 10:31 AM

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Anyone got any cool hologram libs I could use for 1.8 fingerguns_reversed

glad spear Jul 29, 2020, 10:32 AM

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I bet aj does

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 10:32 AM

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He's gonna be dissapointed that I'm on 1.8 again

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 10:56 AM

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What would be the best way to store business objects in a database? I have a proprietary sql handler but I'd like to not have to maintain it and use something pre-existing. I was thinking of hibernate but I thought i'd ask if you guys know of something better

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 10:59 AM

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I am disgusted

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 11:00 AM

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It's a commission Aj :c

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 11:00 AM

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idc

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Pay me the amount I get for this, and I won't make it fingerguns_reversed

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 11:01 AM

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how much?

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 11:01 AM

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DMs fingerguns

pallid gale Jul 29, 2020, 11:01 AM

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interesting price

distant sun Jul 29, 2020, 11:02 AM

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69 pesos

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 11:03 AM

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See he get's annoyed, but doesn't want to resolve me of my missery

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:05 AM

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DID

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Did someone mention business objects and databases?

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:06 AM

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yes

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Hello

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Hola

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Let me introduce you to Spring

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:07 AM

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What does the Spring framework do?

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:07 AM

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Everything

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:07 AM

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Never used it, don't know anything about it

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:07 AM

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You can model your business objects as java objects

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Then it set's up databases and everything based on it

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📎 Screen_Shot_2020-07-29_at_12.07.54.png

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:08 AM

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That looks interesting enough

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How much fine control do you have though? Can you specify custom queries as well?

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:09 AM

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📎 Screen_Shot_2020-07-29_at_12.09.27.png

distant sun Jul 29, 2020, 11:10 AM

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Interesting

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BUT

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What normal person uses light theme on anything that has dark theme??

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:11 AM

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@heady birch That looks like SQL. Any particular flavor? MySQL? Postgre? Oracle SQL?

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Oh yeah

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:11 AM

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What normal person uses light theme on anything that has dark theme??
@distant sun Light theme by day, Dark theme by night

distant sun Jul 29, 2020, 11:11 AM

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no

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Its JPQL I think

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or HQL

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You can do native SQL as well

distant sun Jul 29, 2020, 11:12 AM

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Dark theme anytime

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:12 AM

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I will check it out, looks interesting enough. Thank you!

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Do I have to compile Spring into the Plugin jar if I want to use it?

#

Or does the spigot jar already support spring by any chance?

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 11:13 AM

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It probably doesn't knowing spigot fingerguns_reversed

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:14 AM

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I figured out why my plugin is 18MB btw

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:14 AM

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@heady birch you sure you can use Spring on Spigot projects?

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:14 AM

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Because I decided to use ANTLR as we discussed before. Gotta compile all the necessary shit into the plugin 😛

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:14 AM

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Probably

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But

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:14 AM

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@heady birch you sure you can use Spring on Spigot projects?
@jovial warren Why shouldn't you be able to?

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 11:14 AM

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why wouldnt you?

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:14 AM

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Your plugin will be larger than 18MB with Spring 🙂

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 11:14 AM

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lol

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:14 AM

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because of the way it works

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 11:15 AM

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how big is sprinbg

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:15 AM

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I mean is the size really an issue?

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Depends what you use

#

I tried doing it a while ago

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:15 AM

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with Spring, most things have to kinda be managed by it

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:15 AM

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But couldn't register the server as a been or anything

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@Override
    public void onEnable() {
        getLogger().info("Initializing the application context...");

        DefaultListableBeanFactory defaultListableBeanFactory = new DefaultListableBeanFactory();
        defaultListableBeanFactory.registerSingleton("logger", getLogger());

        AnnotationConfigApplicationContext applicationContext = new AnnotationConfigApplicationContext(defaultListableBeanFactory);
        applicationContext.scan("net.kitesoftware",
                "net.kitesoftware.clearchat",
                "net.kitesoftware.clearchat.service");
        applicationContext.refresh();

        EnterpriseClearChatApplication enterpriseClearChatApplication =
                applicationContext.getBean(EnterpriseClearChatApplication.class);

        enterpriseClearChatApplication.startApplication();
    }

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Never got it working

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:16 AM

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I'll ask in the spring discord

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:17 AM

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😳

#

Spring discord?

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:17 AM

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ah sorry spigot discord

#

brainlag

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 11:17 AM

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spigot discord shite

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:18 AM

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whatever, as long as they answer my question...

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:18 AM

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@heady birch why would you even lol

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:19 AM

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I have never spoken in spigot server actually

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Well shit Niall. Here you introduce me to the Spring framework and then you tell me it's not suitable

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What is a suitable alternative then?

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:22 AM

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you could try RPF

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@quiet depot will tell you all about it I'm sure

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:23 AM

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The Rwandan Patriotic Front?

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:23 AM

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lol

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no, Reflection Project Framework I think or something like that

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:23 AM

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Or the Patriotic Front of Rwanda?

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:23 AM

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yeah Reflection Project Framework

quiet depot Jul 29, 2020, 11:23 AM

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rpf isn’t ready for prod

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:23 AM

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god damnit ^^

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Are you willing to accept the risks of using an in-development build? (Y)es/(N)o

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:24 AM

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No

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I want something that works

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:24 AM

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It does work afaik

quiet depot Jul 29, 2020, 11:24 AM

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what u making?

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:24 AM

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it's just not that stable

remote goblet Jul 29, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Patriotic Front of Rwanda? Sounds interesting

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:24 AM

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and that is well documented with lots of examples to find on google

quiet depot Jul 29, 2020, 11:24 AM

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RPF has first class in-discord support

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it’s called piggypiglet

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:25 AM

#

I am looking for a way to avoid writing my own sql handler

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so I'm looking for a way to store business objects

#

preferably automatically via annotations

#

like Hibernate or Spring

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:25 AM

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What is your goal

quiet depot Jul 29, 2020, 11:25 AM

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then use hibernate or spring?

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Does it need to be a plugin?

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Yes it's a plugin, @heady birch

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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https://ormlite.com/

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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then use hibernate or spring?
@quiet depot I was thinking of hibernate then Niall mentioned Spring and then he said it's not suitable for plugins and now I'm back at Hibernate

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Something like this could work

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Well

quiet depot Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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spring works fine for plugins

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Yes

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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spring works fine for plugins
@quiet depot Have you used it before?

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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You do have a 5mb limit upload on spigot

quiet depot Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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no

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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But if its personal use then should be fine

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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You do have a 5mb limit upload on spigot
@heady birch I don't upload to spigot anyway so that's not an issue

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But if its personal use then should be fine
@heady birch It's not

quiet depot Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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niall you can add an external download

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Oh yeah

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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that's probably why FAWE does that then lol

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and a few others do that as well

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 11:30 AM

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I think I'll go with hibernate

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Hibernate is just ORM

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afaik

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nvm apparently, like Spring, it does more

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(most people know Spring as a web framework, that's what I'm referring to)

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also @heady birch you're saying with Spring it'll take your project only to 18 MB?

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idk what kinda Spring you been using but Spring Boot takes me to at least 35

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 12:15 PM

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return within lambda acts same as continue in a for loop or?

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 12:18 PM

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bruh

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just realised the Fuck1.8 jitpack thing doesnt work lol

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    implementation 'com.github.Aj3douglas:Fuck1.8:master-SNAPSHOT'```

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    maven { url 'https://jitpack.io' }```

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Could not find com.github.Aj3douglas:Fuck1.8:master-SNAPSHOT.

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o

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ive gotta add something to the gradle?

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 12:23 PM

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return within lambda acts same as continue in a for loop or?
@hot hull break and continue are for iterator scope, so probably not the same

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 12:23 PM

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Seems to be the same so fingerguns_reversed

empty flint Jul 29, 2020, 12:30 PM

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hmmm how would you model a one-to-many relationship in a database where the order is important? create a separate table with each element being an entry and store the index/order?

steel heart Jul 29, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Aj, send ur gradle

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 12:31 PM

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https://github.com/Aj3douglas/Fuck1.8/blob/master/build.gradle

GitHub

Aj3douglas/Fuck1.8

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tacit cave Jul 29, 2020, 12:34 PM

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@obtuse gale -.-

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 12:35 PM

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?

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oh right I forgot some people support using versions from 6 YEARS AGO

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@steel heart when I try and run gradlew build on the project it fails

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I think I read that jitpack uses it

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Would that cause it to not import right?

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Is it really stupid of me to create Kotlin-Expansion for PAPI ._.

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I already prepared the scripting engine, ofc

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 2:12 PM

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I think someone made it

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KotlinScript or something

topaz bay Jul 29, 2020, 2:13 PM

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That would be me

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Course 🙄

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 2:22 PM

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@obtuse gale wdym nobody should use 1.8?

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:22 PM

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I mean nobody should use 1.8

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 2:22 PM

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1.8 should be used for things like lobbies because it's really lightweight and doesn't take up RAM

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Its 6 years old

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 2:22 PM

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and...?

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:22 PM

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at very minimum 1.12

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 2:23 PM

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modpacks are still built in 1.7.10 and that's even older

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:23 PM

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I know

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Doesnt make it any better

jovial warren Jul 29, 2020, 2:23 PM

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1.8 still has its uses

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that's a fact

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1.6 is where I draw the line

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and also 1.8 is better for PvP since 1.9 until about 1.14 or so PvP is dog shit

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and also 1.8 runs so much more smoothly than the later versions

obtuse gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Its 6 years old

ocean quartz Jul 29, 2020, 2:32 PM

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@old wyvern Sure thing!

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@topaz bay Nice yeah, I might just do that, use regex to get the tokens

regal gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:35 PM

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1.6 is where I draw the line
@jovial warren i don't get that line

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 2:46 PM

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You can't store data in a placed block correct?

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 2:47 PM

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lol

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extend Block and add your own fields

tranquil crane Jul 29, 2020, 2:47 PM

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anything older than 1.13 is icky

heady birch Jul 29, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Try it and see 🙂

tranquil crane Jul 29, 2020, 2:48 PM

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extend block thonking

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I'm on 1.8 :c

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Gotta add a spawner stacking system, first thought of storing locations but that's disgusting

old wyvern Jul 29, 2020, 2:51 PM

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extend Block and add your own fields
Wha

tranquil crane Jul 29, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Storing locations is about the best you're going to get

hot hull Jul 29, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Crap

prisma wave Jul 29, 2020, 2:51 PM

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^

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it's not that ugly