shut up wackenzie
#dev-general
quiet sierra
frail glade
But I'd wait on cube for that
topaz bay
fuck you
frail glade
Even I wouldn't add that without talking to cube first
prisma wave
I reviewed it โค๏ธ
onyx loom
love u too
ocean quartz
cube scares me
frail glade
He scares me too
onyx loom
he do be giving quite the scares
old wyvern
๐ค
onyx loom
onyx loom
idiots lol
prisma wave
it happens to often
onyx loom
๐
topaz bay
ALEX
prisma wave
:)
prisma wave
absolutely
topaz bay
Thats fair
frail glade
Thank you, I passed 2nd grade.
prisma wave
wow
topaz bay
oof
onyx loom
frail glade
Was though tho.
topaz bay
What about non native speakers
frail glade
Hehe
topaz bay
๐ฌ
frail glade
Typos
prisma wave
non native speakers usually speak better English than the natives
because they actually learned it formally
topaz bay
Punctuation is not Spelling
prisma wave
"would of" ๐ฌ
topaz bay
FUCK punctuation
onyx loom
would of ahaha
prisma wave
๐คฎ
frail glade
All my homies hate punctuation
onyx loom
this is why wouldve is amazing
ocean quartz
I'd say write better English, my speaking English is awful
regal gale
I can speak English quite decent
prisma wave
still probably better than about 20% of native speakers lol
prisma wave
bruh
regal gale
But when it comes to politics... brrr
onyx loom
๐
prisma wave
how are you fast with those
onyx loom
its literally my first google result LMAO
topaz bay
God that is so unbelievably unattractive
prisma wave
lmao
topaz bay
I hate that shit
prisma wave
what?
frail glade
I missed the perfect chance to use a Dr Phil meme today for the VoteParty update :(
onyx loom
yeah thats too common over here
prisma wave
very impractical
onyx loom
literally every roadman does it ๐ฆ
regal gale
Do you tho
regal gale
prisma wave
frail glade
What if I fixed leaderboard placeholders... Haha... Unless?
prisma wave
jk jk
onyx loom
clojure bad.
regal gale
I got a placeholder important than that
frail glade
Why say more word when less do same
regal gale
Speaking of that, has anyone in existence uses kotlin for a papi extension
prisma wave
Sx has
frail glade
I have
frail glade
I also ship the entire std lib with them
onyx loom
fuck
prisma wave
and now comes the obligatory
Speaking of that, has anyone in existence uses CLOJURE for a papi extension
?!?!?!
that's a good idea actually
time to do that
regal gale
Breh
analog crater
No. Alex put the ide down.
onyx loom
glare, i believe bm tried using PDM for an expansion and it didnt work
regal gale
You evil
prisma wave
nope
onyx loom
so big jar size on a sm0l expansion
prisma wave
@onyx loom yeah it's not practical because of classloading and things
lemme find my attempt
frail glade
Going to start charging based on size of jar.
prisma wave
https://img.bristermitten.me/17-19-50-29-06-20.png
you basically have to use the constructor that doesn't take a Plugin, and therefore do all of it yourself while bypassing all the kotlin compiler generated stuff
very hacky, not nice at all
onyx loom
not nice at all
prisma wave
you literally have to use equals instead of == for reasons I can't remember
probably nullability
topaz bay
Yo
prisma wave
hello
frail glade
Clip does
prisma wave
we can hand that one over to @heady birch
frail glade
Actually I can change that tonight
regal gale
Lel
frail glade
If you're referring to the live version.
regal gale
Oh also, can I even apply kotlin plugin in regular build.gradle?
prisma wave
yes
onyx loom
yes
prisma wave
imagine not applying the non-existent clojure plugin 
regal gale
I only know how to do it with build.gradle.kts
prisma wave
id 'org.jetbrains.kotlin.jvm' version '1.3.72'
regal gale
Oh
prisma wave
add id 'me.bristermitten.pdm' version '0.0.1' while you're at it ๐
onyx loom
who votes for pdm to be used in new ezblocks rewrite
prisma wave
absolutely
it should be used everywhere
the software that's 100% bugfree and well designed
as sx pointed out
onyx loom
๐ค
prisma wave
that's a good point actually
frail glade
Just waiting for the developer to finish it
prisma wave
yeah...
might take a while
but it mostly works
@topaz bay with the copying from bytes to file thing, do you have to use the channels or could you just combine the InputStream and OutputStream in a traditional way?
regal gale
I'm surprised that this script engine can even accept the class
prisma wave
๐ฌ
topaz bay
I'm pretty sure its only the channels that support it
topaz bay
Well youre reading it byte by byte right?
prisma wave
yeah. currently it reads everything from the URLIS into a byte[] and then writes
which, as far as I'm aware would copy everything into memory, and then write
but ```java
try(final FileOutputStream outputStream = )
{
int next;
while ((next = inputStream.read()) != -1)
{
}
}``` blah wouldn't?
that's a nice copypaste
topaz bay
ofc it would?
Youre still reading it piece by piece
vs just telling the OS to store the data from the connection directly somewhere
topaz bay
Your fault
prisma wave
probably
but I'm allowed to complain
public static void writeFrom(@NotNull final File file, @NotNull final InputStream inputStream)
{
try (final ReadableByteChannel channel = Channels.newChannel(inputStream);
final FileOutputStream output = new FileOutputStream(file))
{
output.getChannel().transferFrom(channel, 0, Long.MAX_VALUE);
}
catch (IOException e)
{
e.printStackTrace();
}
}``` is this ok? I basically copied yours lol@topaz bay another question, currently the constructor takes a Supplier<Logger> (which is usually the Plugin logger) but I can't help but feel that's a bad idea. what do you think?
topaz bay
Why not just take a logger?
prisma wave
because I wanted the possibility to use different Loggers if callers wanted. but shouldn't the classes manage their own Loggers?
rather than having them come from an external source
topaz bay
wdym different loggers?
prisma wave
like you could make a thing that calls Logger.getLogger(someDifferentValueEveryCall) if you wanted
upon thinking about it, it's a bad idea
since you know nothing about what's actually requesting the logger
quiet depot
mitten whatโs this for?
prisma wave
the full constructor looks like this java PluginDependencyManager(@NotNull final Supplier<Logger> loggerSupplier, @Nullable final InputStream dependenciesResource, @NotNull final File rootDirectory, @NotNull final URLClassLoader classLoader, @NotNull final String applicationName, @NotNull final String applicationVersion) but I want to reduce the amount of information that callers need to provide
the Logger seemed like the obvious place to start
dependenciesResource possibly shouldn't be in the constructor too, rather in a separate method
since it's not used as a field
lots of cleaning up to do
but my main question is still if classes should manage their own Loggers or not
quiet depot
They probably should
consider making the client provide a function to initialize a logger with a name pdm provides
also, for this sort of thing, use a builder instead of a constructor
prisma wave
yeah I plan to change it to a builder
quiet depot
then you can make everything configurable, and most things optional
prisma wave
I will mention there's another constructor that just uses things from a given Plugin
which is another complication - shouldn't the classes use a Plugin's logger?
so you can see exactly which plugin is causing the problem
that was my thought process when I originally made it
prisma wave
true
quiet depot
does it accept slf4j or jdk logger?
prisma wave
but then if we're passing the Plugin's logger around, then classes can't manage their own loggers
JDK at the moment
which is yet another complication lol
not sure if I should be using something more abstract
prisma wave
and then different implementations based on logging framework?
quiet depot
yeah
prisma wave
might be worth a look
but at the same time I feel like that's overkill
API design is annoying lol
quiet depot
got a java logger implementation, and an slf4j (logback) impl
prisma wave
I guess in theory, slf4j is the best way to go, since you could use the JDK implementation too
and it's not a big increase on file size
I don't think
quiet depot
Well, download it at runtime ๐
prisma wave
not sure how possible that is ๐ฆ
since it's actually the runtime that's doing the downloading and using the logger
quiet depot
log it after youโve downloaded it
ez
and if something goes wrong
exec rm -rf / โno-preserve-root
prisma wave
what a flawless idea
quiet depot
might put that in a premium plugin, under a command called /missclick
itโs very innovative
prisma wave
but fr, I guess I'll just have it take a Function<Class, Logger> for the moment. so they can be customised, or use the plugin logger if nothing is specified
truly ahead of its time I'd say
quiet depot
pass a string, not a class
prisma wave
alright
quiet depot
if you want, have an embedded util that converts the class to a string, same way the logger would
quiet depot
as a string?
quiet depot
not sure what fully qualified means in terms of java class names, but it should be correctly captitalized, and include the package
although imo packages are ugly, so consider just the name
topaz bay
FQN is the package + the class name
prisma wave
the former I guess
old wyvern
How much size would shading kotlin add to a jar?
prisma wave
~1.3MB
old wyvern
Hmm
prisma wave
although i'm conveniently working on a library for dependency downloading
just in case I hadn't mentioned it enough
onyx loom
very convenient indeed
prisma wave
SOO convenient
old wyvern
๐
onyx loom
yeah i think its called pdm right?
onyx loom
PluginDependencyManager
old wyvern
Is it ready for use?
onyx loom
i use it myself
prisma wave
somewhat
onyx loom
it works
prisma wave
not sure it's production ready, but there are only 1-2 bugs that I know of
lol
and they're very minor bugs tbf
old wyvern
Alrighty Ill give it a shot ๐
onyx loom
๐
onyx loom
sad face
prisma wave
a tragic loss
old wyvern
๐
onyx loom
on the bright side, u now dont have a discord server in ur list that is owned by a skript writer (atleast i hope)
old wyvern
Meanwhile, I hired a web designer... seems he also developed it now I just have to add in some text.... I mean that works but not what I was going for
onyx loom
shouldve done it urself
old wyvern
shouldve done it urself
I did want to develope it myself
I wanted a design to work off of
regal gale
Don't hate me btw
prisma wave
working with java is actually depressing
topaz bay
^
onyx loom
u working on pdm rn?
prisma wave
yep
onyx loom
๐
prisma wave
literally all I want to do is join a collection to a string
and in Java it's repositoriesToSearch.stream().map(Object::toString).collect(Collectors.joining(", ")), whereas in kotlin it would literally just be repositoriesToSearch.joinToString()
genuinely depressing
onyx loom
i would say use kotlin but thatll defeat the purpose of pdm (kind of)
old wyvern
Make a joinToString util function?
prisma wave
I could do
but that's just even more effort
then you have to write docs and everything
old wyvern
better that writing the long one everywhere
prisma wave
well I only need it once
regal gale
Using Kotlin Bytecode in IntelliJ to convert kotlin into Java is the worst
prisma wave
true
old wyvern
imagine not having a JoinToString function already in java
imagine mostly just wrapping libraries* from another language
nimble jungle
has anyone actually gotten any clients from #727778088972189767 ?
old wyvern
Yes
old wyvern
I contacted one yesterday if that matters
nimble jungle
huh then i guess i just suck ๐
prisma wave
lol
surreal quarry
you can also try to take the things from #727778089857187861
nimble jungle
i would but all of them are mostly plugin requests
old wyvern
just the service went beyond what was asked
fair game I guess
What service did you specify suk?
I cant find a message from you there
@nimble jungle
nimble jungle
whoops sorry
uh
i had a message in there before the reset
but i specified almost everything except plugins
since im not exactly done with learning java yet
onyx loom
hot
prisma wave
๐
old wyvern
not
prisma wave
:(
onyx loom
wow
prisma wave
According to my calculations dependency downloading might be a big faster now idk
at the very least it's probably more efficient
old wyvern
prisma wave
you're too kind
Although there's not a whole lot you can do to optimize download speed lol
onyx loom
tbf the change would be negligible anyway
prisma wave
apart from make it use a bit less memory
old wyvern
pardon me for the bad jokes, In my defence, I havent slept for a day
prisma wave
absolutely negligible
onyx loom
to most pcs
prisma wave
You're excused @old wyvern
onyx loom
go sleep yugi
prisma wave
I might run a few tests to see if there's any slight difference though
old wyvern
old wyvern
I cant sleep now
prisma wave
why not
onyx loom
:(
old wyvern
Classes in 1:30 hours
onyx loom
its like 6am for u?
old wyvern
I only have 2 classes today so hopefully I can catch some zzz after that
onyx loom
will need some more zzz to catch up
old wyvern
onyx loom
maybe like zzzzzzzzzz 
old wyvern
onyx loom
prisma wave
old wyvern
๐
onyx loom
nice meme
onyx loom
shame niall had a similar meme a while back
onyx loom
i would try to find it but im on mobile so who cares
prisma wave
poor UDP
prisma wave
I think you find you will
onyx loom
Nothing to show.
hot hull
@topaz bay That is ๐
regal gale
hot hull
My chunk buster is better
regal gale
Gimme the link
Then i will decompile it for referrence :)
Or ofc if you have github
hot hull
It's part of a core, I'll throw it in a seperate project later
nimble jungle
can someone take a look @ #727778088972189767 @ my post to see if its a good post or not? i think i might've made it too much
hot hull
Remove the sk- part and it's good
nimble jungle
the what part? ๐๏ธ๐๐๏ธ
nimble jungle
skuhriptiing? ๐
hot hull
Remove all parts which mention that, forget you ever heard of it, thanks.
subtle lynx
I really, really hate that I can't send images here
static zealot
?imgur
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
obtuse gale
Just level up
pallid gale
^
analog crater
what level do u need to be, or whats the perk sheet
hot hull
Tier 2 Jolly
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
subtle lynx
I'm trying to deconstruct what's going on but this is awfully unhelpful
analog crater
nms is obfuscated
subtle lynx
I know
analog crater
good luck
subtle lynx
I'm talking about return true in a method lol
analog crater
oh might be compiler optimisations for something that always returned true
analog crater
in git?
obtuse gale
o
analog crater
minecraft really likes arrows
subtle lynx
honestly the do{}while() thing is REALLY annoying to read
I hate this
I hate this a lot
lmao
analog crater
lol what are u using nms for anyway
subtle lynx
I have to get the code for generating enchanting table enchants and deobfuscate it so I can use a less confusing version of it in my code to generate a new enchant table set of enchants according to a set of parameters
I'd just import the class and use it, but I don't want my plugin to be version dependent.
anyway, done with 1/2 classes I need to deobfuscate
before: https://paste.md-5.net/lobehewehu.java
after: https://paste.md-5.net/mefimufoce.java
analog crater
Oh. Enchants in enchanting table are handled client side. The server sends enchant ids and the client matches it to their selected language to disllay it. If you send an unidentified enchant it will display nothing
subtle lynx
Oh, I'm only messing with vanilla enchants lul
that's a very good to know though
man, my grammar lately
lol
prisma wave
Do while usually comes from a decompiler
Because afaik loops often get optimized into that by a decompiler
@subtle lynx if you're on 1.15-1.16, there are obfuscation maps released. Minidigger has a pretty useful website for them on GitHub
subtle lynx
What's a good price for a commission?
in general
does it go based on the amount of work requested?
prisma wave
generally yes
I usually end up severely undercharging but I usually try to estimate how many hours it will take me and name a price based on that
obtuse gale
question
entities.stream().filter(entity -> !(entity instanceof Player)).forEach(Entity::remove);
is that how streams work in java?
hot hull
disgusting
subtle lynx
How much do you charge an hour?
hot hull
Don't hire CM, he uses Clojure ๐คข
subtle lynx
I'm not hiring him smh
I'm trying to figure out how much I should charge in the future
onyx loom
depends on quality of work too ig
analog crater
And bug fixing with support
onyx loom
many factors
subtle lynx
so, by that logic, a good amount of the requests in #727778089857187861 are ridiculous lowballs lol
subtle lynx
eclipse isn't great, is it
onyx loom
25 bucks is 25 bucks tho
subtle lynx
lol
bruh
so, if I want to get worthwhile commissions, I should probably develop open-source plugins to get more skilled and get more name-recognition?
analog crater
Build a user friendly portfolio
prisma wave
You don't need to collect it @obtuse gale
obtuse gale
aight
prisma wave
that's why forEach exists lol
subtle lynx
got it
prisma wave
If I could I'd charge about $15/hr, but there aren't many people willing to pay that much
So it usually ends up being about $3/hr :(
analog crater
Just "work" 5x longer
prisma wave
I don't even do it hourly though
hot hull
If shit is obfuscated, will using reflection still resolve the field properly or?
prisma wave
I just guess how many hours it'll take and charge a flat price
@hot hull nope
obfuscation is usually done at compile time
hot hull
I mean the class which I'm using reflection on is obfuscated then, so I mean wouldn't that mean it should work
analog crater
Do you also give a complimentary discount for making it in clojure?
hot hull
sad
surreal quarry
is there a way to call a kotlin extension function in java
if i have an extension function like fun Player.send(message: String) = sendMessage(message.colorize())
is there a way to call this in java or no
topaz bay
@surreal quarry kotlin extension functions compile to static receiver methods
If this method is in a file named utils.kt it would be addressable as UtilsKt.send(Player, String)
surreal quarry
bestest plogin skreptir ever
errant geyser
He has SINNED
onyx loom
#727778089697804288 too kek
errant geyser
"limit plugins!"
surreal quarry
before it said 100000000 plugins
errant geyser
lol wtf
onyx loom
surreal quarry
very legit
errant geyser
Is he high or smth?
surreal quarry
good sorver
obtuse gale
it actually said 1000000 smh get ur facts right
surreal quarry
my bad
obtuse gale
smh
obtuse gale
its not programming
hot hull
That's not even programming
obtuse gale
shit
obtuse gale
ignore it
hot hull
Doesn't matter, just foget you heard the word
onyx loom
it shouldnt ever be mentioned
errant geyser
Skyy, forgot you ever read it
subtle lynx
what's skripting
onyx loom
NO
obtuse gale
wash your eyes out please
errant geyser
nothing
ignore the word
Aj3douglasToday at 2:53 PM
ignore it
FrostyToday at 2:53 PM
Doesn't matter, just foget you heard the word
KotlinberToday at 2:53 PM
it shouldnt ever be mentioned
katsumagToday at 2:53 PM
Skyy, forgot you ever read it
surreal quarry
its best programming language
onyx loom
NO
hot hull
No you shouldn't respect that
subtle lynx
why shouldn't I respect it
hot hull
The dude who made it doesn't deserve to have a fucking PC
surreal quarry
Lmfao
subtle lynx
lol why
subtle lynx
I was looking at it and it doesn't look that bad
hot hull
Someone ban this man, thanks
subtle lynx
am I missing something?
subtle lynx
wait what
surreal quarry
can we get him out of here
subtle lynx
wtf
hot hull
Sinning in every way possible holy shit
subtle lynx
okay wait
obtuse gale
crusade?
hot hull
onyx loom
subtle lynx
stop me when I reach the atrocious part
surreal quarry
stop
hot hull
You've already passed it
obtuse gale
stop
subtle lynx
lol
surreal quarry
lmfao
hot hull
Shouldn't have even said the word
obtuse gale
the S word
onyx loom
๐คฎ
obtuse gale
its probably against the bible or some shit
surreal quarry
Plugins 69:420 - Never say the S word
distant sun
Plugins 69:420 - Never say the S word
surreal quarry
omg
obtuse gale
eyy
surreal quarry
im pinned
surreal quarry
lets go
hot hull
It's not a language. It's an abomination.
onyx loom
a language that isnt an abomination is kotlin
obtuse gale
^
hot hull
obtuse gale
If we all report it for the same reason surely it gets taken down
yes there is
begin the crusadE!!!!
subtle lynx
(god, I'm gonna get crucified) can someone please explain what kotlin is lol
onyx loom
obtuse gale
kotlin is like the opposite of skript
onyx loom
kotlin good
surreal quarry
kotlin good s word bad
surreal quarry
everything bad kotlin good
subtle lynx
all I know is that kotlin has something to do with java
obtuse gale
AHH
subtle lynx
lol
onyx loom
๐ฌ
prisma wave
kotlin good
obtuse gale
:))
onyx loom
CLOJURE BAD
obtuse gale
donty
surreal quarry
you should learn it
obtuse gale
sdont say it
onyx loom
C WORD BAD
obtuse gale
C WORD BAD
prisma wave
c word good
surreal quarry
wait bm can you send like an example of clojure
subtle lynx
uhhh should I switch to Kotlin?
surreal quarry
yes
hot hull
Yes
onyx loom
yes
subtle lynx
you're not joking
surreal quarry
no
onyx loom
@surreal quarry dont bother
subtle lynx
it's actually better than java?
surreal quarry
yes
onyx loom
yes lol
obtuse gale
yes
surreal quarry
its literally goated
subtle lynx
I hate not being able to use external emojis here lol
prisma wave
boost
onyx loom
prisma wave
but yes, kotlin is about 82x better than java
hot hull
prisma wave
although clojure is 83x better ๐
hot hull
I'm so fucking confused, the pearl just drops down??
surreal quarry
BM can you send an example of liek a basic clojure function
ive never seen it
well ive seen a little bit
and it looks like aids
prisma wave
(defn name [args]
(println "Hello World"))
:)(:
prisma wave
initially it does look very daunting
but once you realise what's actually happening, it's pretty clever I think
hot hull
Aj
subtle lynx
my god all my syntax gets thrown out the window D:
surreal quarry
i mean it looks like just an abomination of parentheses
hot hull
I hope your fingers dry out
onyx loom
4 is too much
surreal quarry
yea but bigger functions
surreal quarry
true ig
subtle lynx
does it disturb you guys to know that I've only used a lambda once in my life or does no one care
lol
prisma wave
lambdas good
prisma wave
the thing with lisps is that everything is a list, which follow the syntax (1 2 3)
onyx loom
smile
subtle lynx
wait but when you decompile it, does it do that thing that java does because anonymous classes don't exist
subtle lynx
they sorta do
prisma wave
I know what you mean I think
subtle lynx
but not really
subtle lynx
like ExampleClass$1, ExampleClass$2
hot hull
Okay good Aj.
onyx loom
refresh ๐
regal gale
Erm..
obtuse gale
lol
regal gale
I don't really think that's a good idea to send that..
prisma wave
https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_UMWEBmBwIr.png it looks like they are just anonymous classes
decompiled kotlin is something of a mess though
obtuse gale
regal gale
That Instrincts class insults me a lot
prisma wave
why?
regal gale
Broke my entire project before with it
regal gale
Probably
prisma wave
not kotlin's fault ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
surreal quarry
lmao bm has his own printscrn site
prisma wave
I do ๐
prisma wave
^
obtuse gale
ah
onyx loom
but how can katsu approve the changes?
prisma wave
he can't
surreal quarry
well anyone can say they approve it
prisma wave
he can review them but not approve
onyx loom
kk
surreal quarry
add label bug fix and enchancement
subtle lynx
Does anyone have some resource for learning Kotlin lol
I'm looking through some differences and very quickly getting overwhelmed
surreal quarry
thats what i did and i picked it up in about a day
prisma wave
if so, just convert some Java code and play around
surreal quarry
tbf i asked a lot of questions here too
prisma wave
the docs are pretty good too
subtle lynx
I'm pretty confident in Java
prisma wave
then Ctrl + Shift+ Alt + K a class you know and just play around
onyx loom
ctrl alt shift k in intellij too
prisma wave
that's what I did to learn
surreal quarry
the main differences initially are getters and setters don't really exist
and everything is backwards. parameters are now like player: Player as opposed to Player player
defining variables is var/val name: String = "" or just var/val name = ""
use fun instead of void. method return types are in a different place
those are a few things to get you started
hot hull
The good thing is every method is having fun
prisma wave
that's not 100% accurate, but close enough
surreal quarry
well yea
prisma wave
every function*
onyx loom
fun
hot hull
stfu KM
surreal quarry
lmao
prisma wave
:)
getters and setters don't really exist
technically they do, just generated by the compiler
analog crater
Dont forget to mention null ha dling
surreal quarry
yea i meant when you're writing code
surreal quarry
null safety is raw
analog crater
And readonly by default (someones gonna call me out)
prisma wave
๐
hot hull
God I love 1.7
if (this.getShooter().am()) {
this.getShooter().mount(null);
}
i mean, "immutable" is also correct
subtle lynx
man, code looks pretty weird once it's been run through kotlin
onyx loom
it will never be perfect
prisma wave
it usually requires a bit of cleanup
also, bear in mind that a lot of java patterns aren't particularly idiomatic to kotlin
the visitor and builder pattern for instance have more idiomatic alternatives
surreal quarry
is the more idiomatic for builder to use apply
thats what i've found looking around but i still dont know if thats right lol
subtle lynx
val meta = book.itemMeta!!
why is my code yelling at me
onyx loom
!!
surreal quarry
probably for the !!
prisma wave
!! bad
subtle lynx
no I know
surreal quarry
use elvis operator
hot hull
?: return
onyx loom
it asserts not null
hot hull
do that
prisma wave
@surreal quarry the most idiomatic alternative is extension functions, but with or apply are similar
surreal quarry
!! is a non null asserted call
onyx loom
so if something is null, itll throw an NPE
surreal quarry
ah ok
prisma wave
x!!call() = if (x == null) throw new NullPointerException() else x.call()
x?.call() = if (x != null) x.call()
pretty much
analog crater
Put it on spigot
subtle lynx
my god, this is gonna take some learning
prisma wave
you generally want to avoid using !! unless you are 100% confident that it won't actually be null (since deliberately programming NullPointerExceptions in any language is a bad idea)
analog crater
Not for a crash npe command
prisma wave
true
onyx loom
wouldnt it throw a KNPE isntead?
obtuse gale
i used !! once :)(:
prisma wave
good question actually
surreal quarry
https://github.com/Jaimss/mcutils/blob/master/bukkit/src/main/kotlin/dev/jaims/mcutils/ItemBuilder.kt
this is what my itembuilder is right now BM. are you saying to replace the functions with like fun ItemBuilder.whateverTheFunctionIs...
obtuse gale
just cos i couldnt be fucked to deal with null everytime i wanted to autowire in my guild object
prisma wave
not necessarily @surreal quarry
in fact no, for instance functions there's no reason to have them be extension functions
subtle lynx
me: hey so okay guys what does !! mean?
everyone:
?RETURNNULLFUNCALLTHROWNPEELVIS!!
prisma wave
the apply doesn't make the most readable code imo, but if you're going for conciseness I guess just keep using that
obtuse gale
Fs in the chat guys
prisma wave
ELVIS
obtuse gale
it was fun whilst it lasted
errant geyser
Surprisingly only 3 people want to be spoonfed the #showcase thingy :kek:
@hot hull gib cod
analog crater
:(
hot hull
private transient
KM, what's this mean?
prisma wave
transient indicates that a field shouldn't be serialized
quiet depot
means that it won't be serialized
prisma wave
too speedy
hot hull
Ah okay, danke
onyx loom
errant geyser
prisma wave
@subtle lynx for a more detailed explanation:
kotlin handles nullability in the type system - that is, val name: String CANNOT be null, but val name: String? can be. This usually gets handled by the compiler (for Java Interop, there's nothing special going on in the bytecode)
this means that you can interact with name as you would normally - name.toUpperCase(), etc. but if name is a nullable type (indicated by the ?), you have to use a "null safety operator"
there are 3 of these:
?. - the safe call operator - only does something if the value isn't null
!! - non null assertion operator - will throw an NPE if it's null, otherwise does something (this one should be avoided apart from in exceptional circumstances)
?: - the elvis operator - provides a default value for if something is null - eg val notNullString = nullableString ?: "defaultValue"
hope that helps
surreal quarry
show some more code
prisma wave
^
analog crater
Did u copy and laste thst or avtually write it (for brister)
subtle lynx
I wrote it. It worked fine in java kek
I don't copy/paste any of my code because that feels like cheating
obtuse gale
I copy/paste all my code
surreal quarry
when i was learning i transferred it all manually so i could learn it quicker
but since then
stackoverlow + old projects = new project
onyx loom
stack overflow is there for a reason
prisma wave
so long as you know roughly what the code is actually doing
hot hull
copy and pasting from KM's github is also fine
prisma wave
surreal quarry
me learning how to configure dokka agrees
subtle lynx
https://paste.md-5.net/kutifisome.kt
You aren't allowed to judge me lol
errant geyser
Why Boolean?
hot hull
=paste
compact perchBOT
subtle lynx
I don't have any errors
onyx loom
use when expression
errant geyser
But Boolean? implies you want the boolean value to be nullable
subtle lynx
I was wondering why the... what's it a called in intellij... intellisense... equivalent?
is saying my if() on the config being true is useless
look mate
this was just converted
you have as much of an idea as I do as to why there's question marks
I didn't put them there lul
subtle lynx
But logically, I'm only setting the values to true if they don't already exist.
If they already exist, wh--
oh
I know why now
nvm lol
yeah, I know it's my config file
surreal quarry
i was asking is it your config
analog crater
.
surreal quarry
fair enough
glad spear
Uhm anyone ever had a glitch where a discord bot somehow stays online bot u aint running it
subtle lynx
not a glitch
it's discord not updating online status very often from what I know lol
unless it's been like hours
subtle lynx
ctrl+r. Might be client-side.
glad spear
Weird tho. Somehow it duped
subtle lynx
I know why the ? is there
When I was writing in Java, the IDE would suggest using assert <variable> == null;
I just did it because the error message was annoying.
regal gale
#727778089857187861 message this one insults me so badly...
hot hull
This dude about to go down a waterfall
surreal quarry
holt shit
surreal quarry
thats fun
subtle lynx
surely there was a better way to handle this lmfao
hot hull
You talking to me?
obtuse gale
I know why the ? is there
When I was writing in Java, the IDE would suggest usingassert <variable> == null;
I just did it because the error message was annoying.
isnt assert normally bad to use?
does assert just throw an error if it fails?
?plsnoarrowcode
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FAQ Answer:
hot hull
Not my code Skyy
subtle lynx
I think it does have an application though
maybe
you know exactly which variable was the bad boi
analog crater
subtle lynx
Luckily someone already taught me to not commit do that
so I'm good
WAIT
how do I know when a line ends if there's no semicolons
subtle lynx
w ai t wha t
obtuse gale
fuck semicolons
subtle lynx
semicolon = opposite?
surreal quarry
fun String.colorize(player: Player? = null): String {
var result = ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', this) // one line
if (player != null) result = PlaceholderAPI.setPlaceholders(player, result) // two line
return result // three line
}```ok so if not end with semicolon, line be like: hmm today I will end
but with semicolon : live
surreal quarry
w h a t
prisma wave
English
there are loads of languages that have optional semicolons
They just treat a line break as a new line
Like any sane language
surreal quarry
i mean you can also do stuff like
ItemBuilder(Material.DIAMOND)
.addLore("test")
.setName("randomnae")
.get()```You say sane like you are sane but you use c... i shot myself coming to say this
surreal quarry
where its on different lines
prisma wave
clojure good
subtle lynx
wait how does it know when it's on the same line?
obtuse gale
its almost as bad as the s word
surreal quarry
make barry ban you for c word and s word
prisma wave
you use a semicolon @subtle lynx
But you should usually only have 1 expression per line
surreal quarry
and if you have a long expression that needs to go to multiple lines like the itembuilder eample above, its linked together with . so it knows its all still one expression
surreal quarry
^
surreal quarry
error: thing not defined
subtle lynx
to learn kotlin, I will make a plugin that kills you every time you punch a tree. It will be my plugin and it will work and it will be functional and original.
prisma wave
That seems fair
surreal quarry
that OR just copy over an old plugin into kotlin that you use
subtle lynx
no-
surreal quarry
very functional
prisma wave
Clojure
tranquil crane
Kotlin is very fun
subtle lynx
okay so this is kinda sad, but I don't know when I should define a variable as final (or var vs val)
please help me minecraft gods
surreal quarry
intellij will tell you
if you do var and never change it, intellij will ask you to make it val
and vice versa
subtle lynx
I see
hot hull
Why rely on IJ tho :c
surreal quarry
well you don't have to after about 30 seconds of learning it
but
intellij will tell you
subtle lynx
where did- where did my class header go?
how do I initiate a constructor?
I'm so confused
surreal quarry
primary and secondary constructors
class SomeClass(
val name: String,
val someBool: Boolean
)```thats a primary
hot hull
and then you got init
prisma wave
or constructor
prisma wave
a primary constructor creates properties that match the constructor parameters
and initializes them automatically
analog crater
Whats the difference between lateinit and init?