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obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:50 PM

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to actually do the switcheroo

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just found this online

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Maybe

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You could even have it be the plugin jar

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Aj, this is gonna be fun, then you just disguise it and send it to random people

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:52 PM

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:))))))

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Make a backend that keeps track of how many 1.8 users you've purged

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Or I will

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I need to do it tonight otherwise ill wake up and think its a shitty idea

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use the api BM

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thats what its there for

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actually wait

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that wont work

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

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You'd need a server

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

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that costs money thooo

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I can make a little web app to log it all perhaps

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I've got a vps

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Happy to contribute to this good cause

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

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:))

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

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It makes the world a better place

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

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it does indeed

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wdym have that .jar as the server jar?

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Wouldnt that just start another server

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Also how fast do servers auto-restart? Is it instant? If so wouldnt I need to delay the normal restart?

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:54 PM

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pro tip

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add ur class to the server jar

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change the meta inf to point to ur main

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ez hijack

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:55 PM

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But...

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I dont have the server jar at this point lol

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I need to get it tho

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Use the CodeSource

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:55 PM

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use the codesource like brister said ages ago

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:55 PM

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how do i get that tho

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like i dont even know the name of the jar

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Main.class.getCodeSource() or something

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 4:56 PM

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all this work just to try and rid 1.8 users...

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:56 PM

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its worth it

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 4:56 PM

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🤔

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:56 PM

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make sure to include the spigot dep not just api so u have access to Main

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:56 PM

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wait what?

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:56 PM

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actually you should be anle to get the code source from any spigot class

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able*

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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so do I call ::class.java.getcodeSource on what class

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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any spigot class

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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o

glad spear Jul 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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anle

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thonking

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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im on phone and its 1am

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3am for aj

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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3am here

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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yes its very hard to tupe on a phone i agree

glad spear Jul 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I’m on phone and it’s 1am :^)

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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see

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type*

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:58 PM

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anyway

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 4:58 PM

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this is gonna sound like a shit idea to me tommorow

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so

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:58 PM

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idk if getCodeSource is the actual method

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it’s something like that tho

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you might have to get the protectipn domain first

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Yeah

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:59 PM

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idk if the protection domain contains the code source, or the code source contains the protection domain

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Protection domain, code source

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Then URI I believe

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:00 PM

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    private fun getShitJarName():URL? {
        return Bukkit::class.java.protectionDomain.codeSource.location ?: return null
    }```

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Will that ever be null?

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nope according to thingo

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:01 PM

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I doubt it

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More likely it'll throw an Exception

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:01 PM

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@ocean quartz should be usable via the script engine now

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:01 PM

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alrighty

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now i just gotta do this thing in between restarts

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Okay how do I get started with Kotlin

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I wanna try it

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:03 PM

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hm

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my worry is if the server restarts instantly

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:03 PM

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https://github.com/Sxtanna/odin/packages/299307

GitHub

Sxtanna/odin

Odin "programming" language. Contribute to Sxtanna/odin development by creating an account on GitHub.

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odin 1.0 babbbyyyy

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:04 PM

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if it restarts instantly do i need to somehow delay the re enable

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or is that something I can worry about when i come to it

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:05 PM

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apply from: "https://voxmc.net/github.gradle"

repositories {
  github "Sxtanna/odin"
}
dependencies {
  implementation "com.sxtanna.odin:odin:1.0"
}

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@signal tinsel ctrl alt shift K a Java class

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Or just make a new kotlin project with gradle

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I wanna start a new project in intellij

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Do I only select Kotlin/jvm or also Java?

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:06 PM

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I have to select java as well or it doesnt generate the src folder, but that might just be me lol

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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You only need kotlin/jvm

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Ok

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@topaz bay How would I run code in odin?

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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It actually generates the Java folder even with that

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I don't use gradle actually so what do I need to do to import spigot

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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what's wrong with you

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why not use gradle

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Kotlin and gradle are literally best friends

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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like couldnt I just do this

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    override fun onDisable() {
        Runtime.getRuntime().exec("java -jar FuckYou.jar")
    }```

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Listen

glad spear Jul 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Lmfao

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:08 PM

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where Fuckyou just switches the things

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:08 PM

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How do I add spigot in gradle

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Just tell me lmao

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:08 PM

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then kills itself

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Don't bully me for what I do or do not use lmao

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Oh I see what you mean

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misunderstood the question

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Add the spigot repo, add the dependency

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Basically the same as maven

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 5:08 PM

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https://wiki.helpch.at/piggys-barn/java/gradle/tutorial

Tutorial

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Kk

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That'll do

quiet depot Jul 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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if ur using ij, u can just paste the maven stuff in and ij will convert it

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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how do I copy a file from my resources folder to somewhere else?

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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@old wyvern

val engine = ScriptEngineManager().getEngineByExtension("odin")

engine.eval("""
            fun sayHello {
              push "Hello"
            }
          
            sayHello()
            """.trimIndent())

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Like how do i get the fil;e from my resources thing

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Alrighty

distant sun Jul 4, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Random question, on paper's repo what is that "Paper @ ######" folder?

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:10 PM

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That's cool piggy

distant sun Jul 4, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Doesnt seem to be a normal directory

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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like this?

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        getResource("FuckYou.jar")?.copyTo(dataFolder.outputStream())```

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could i do that to copy it?

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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@quiet depot U broke it :(

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Ok how do I start a mincraft plugin with kotlin

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minecraft*

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Samt as you would with java

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(hopefully you're using the minecraft development plugin)

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Can you even use that with kotlin?

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never tried

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Look I haven't even used kotlin

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How do I make a class importing javaplugin lmao

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:13 PM

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class Whatever: JavaPlugin(){
  override fun onEnable(){

}
}```

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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wait here

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import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin

class KotlinTest : JavaPlugin() {
    
}

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Figured it out

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Use MC development plugin and then the IJ converter

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Or not

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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No I created a new project

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Oh does the mc dev plugin not support kotlin

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I wonder why >:)

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:15 PM

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That's not what the plugin is for

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Ok so

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What are the syntax differences compared to java

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Wait just gimme something to make

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To learn kotlin

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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just read the reference

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and do the koans

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I need smth to make

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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No don't

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Ask me

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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To probably just throw away afterwards but I need smth to make

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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fucking xp whore

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I want XP and I love monologuing about kotlin

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Precisely

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Make essentials

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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That's a bit advanced for a beginner

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I would highly recommend you not consult with someone who uses the non null assertion operator

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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If you know Java and have a few brain cells you can learn kotlin easily

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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they are bad kotlin devs

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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shut up you

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I had my reasons

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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AM I WRONG

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Lol

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I can probably learn kotlin yes

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But I need a fairly standard project to make while learning it

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Essentials

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Easy

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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hyper

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skill

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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no

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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yes

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Brister

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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pro

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Mitten

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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jects

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Oh you changed your nick back

ocean quartz Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Bad

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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xD

ocean quartz Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Manners

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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......

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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nah admins did it :(

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Sup matt ur bad

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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aw rip

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Because I wasn't boosting anymore

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yeah

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Sad

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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ah

ocean quartz Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Was talking about BM 😢

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I have great manners

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Maybe even the best manners

ocean quartz Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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No one has manners like you

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Thats not true

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I have manners

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:)

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Lmao

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:21 PM

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WHATS FUNNY

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Your manners suck

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They're AWFUL

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Your low manners

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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don't think anyone can disagree with that lol

ocean quartz Jul 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Oof

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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HATERS

ocean quartz Jul 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Damn no love

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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right?!?!?!

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I bless these dirty hoes with the beautiful sight of Odin

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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oh no

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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And they treat me like trailer trash

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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odin bad

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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beautiful sight of Odin MinusOne

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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MinusOne

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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MinusOne

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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MinusOne

ocean quartz Jul 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Sx right now

📎 2gqg8f.png

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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WOW

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/dbb7ddffd0ae9d7d6444a7b8a2dcc07f/tenor.gif

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It gets bad before it gets better

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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📎 Z.png

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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You'll see

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You will all kneel before your king

ocean quartz Jul 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PdXIHGvMpk

YouTube

W3btUX

You just have to say that you're fine (ORIGINAL)

They ask you how you are and you just have to say that you're fine when you're not really fine.

Katy Perry Interview - The Project (2014): https://youtu.be/2XKOh28-8nc?t=4m14s

▶ Play video

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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so sad

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too bad I don't care about the welfare of odin users

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@old wyvern Some aussie spider right

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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You will all kneel before your king
@topaz bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8iujof6IL8

YouTube

United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

The Hitler Salute

The 'Hitler salute' is one of the most recognizable symbols of Nazism. Where did it come from?

▶ Play video

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Lmao

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/hela-cate-blanchett-kneel-kinky-gif-13872132

Tenor

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@old wyvern Some aussie spider right
@hot hull
He wanted a spider

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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😳

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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UHHHHHHH

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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UHHHHH

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I mean in theory hitler was a good guy, since he killed hitler

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I was more thinking Loki and Hela kneel

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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xD

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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also why tf is caching in Spring so complicated lol

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I mean in theory hitler was a good guy, since he killed hitler
@hot hull
Holy shit

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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It is not at all complicated

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lol

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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sorry corrected message

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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So are we nazi to want to kill hitler then?

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Ummm

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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😂

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Shit

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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you walked right in to that one Frosty

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I went outside for literally 2 minutes, and I feel like I've been bitten at least 500 times

distant sun Jul 4, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Time to become a better person

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:33 PM

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But I need a fairly standard project to make while learning it
@signal tinsel hello world plugin

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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class HelloWorld:JavaPlugin(){
override fun onEnable() = Bukkit.broadcastMessage("Hello world")
}```

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Proud?

distant sun Jul 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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https://hastebin.com/ixulemijok.cs what the .. fuck?

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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amazing aj

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@obtuse gale absolutely not

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that spacing is horrible

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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i did it in discord lol

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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oh yeah true

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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no excuses

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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also why on enable

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wheres the command /hello

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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too hard

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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smh

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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smh

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this is unacceptable from a fellow kotlin user

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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:():

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whats a good way to test if my thing runs the jar right?

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Cos like I wont have a console for it will i?

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AHH

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📎 unknown.png

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wtf happened

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_nbnp3Axsvc.png 😎

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Try it out :))

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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😬

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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thonking

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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big thonk

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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fixed it :))

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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nice one

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Somehow I put the kotlin SDK and IJ didnt like that

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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yeah dont do that

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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yeah so like

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how can I test if this java program even runs?

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Since I wont have a cosnole will i?

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I would write to a file for logging

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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You'll have the server console tho?

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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na

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my plugin calls another java program

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big brain

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Ah

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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You should be using the process api

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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how what where why

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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when

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🙂

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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To execute another process from java

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Use the process api

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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i swear there were 5 Ws back in grade 2

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i remember they telling me something about it

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Cant I just use

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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It allows you to specify the input and output streams

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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yeah there is

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Runtime.getRuntime().exec("java -jar FuckYou.jar")

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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then 1 H
how

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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or will that not work?

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Ofc it will work

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But you shouldnt

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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why?

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also am i just dumb or like

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why isnt this creating anything when i run it in IJ?

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fun main(){
    val file = File("Fuckyou.txt")
    println(file.createNewFile())
}```

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Am I dumb or should there be a new

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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kot

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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📎 unknown.png

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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lin

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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kinda big, but still

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Using the process builder, you can tell it what to run, where to run it, which input and output stream to use, etc

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This application downloads the spigot jar, and runs it in the current shell

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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well what I want to do is download the spigot jar, and replace the current server jar with this one

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Well thats a terrible idea

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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which is why I was thinking id have this second jar file that would get ran onDisable

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its for Fuck1.8

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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a noble cause

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Ok fuck kotlin

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Gonna try spring

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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:)(:

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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!!?!?!?1

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Why is that the dichotomy!??!?!

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xD

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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what

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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tf does that even mean

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Ditching Kotlin for Spring

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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that's such a weird thought process

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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It doesnt make sense

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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they're not mutally exclusive

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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just combine the two

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bam

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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"i don't like the piano, time to try cooking!"

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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fuck piano

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I can only play classical

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and it sucks

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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sounds more like a you problem than a piano problem

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:)

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Lmao

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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😦

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I'm gonna try spring not because I don't like kotlin

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Imma sleep

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Just because I wanna try spring too

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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just combine the two

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spinrg + kotlin

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I don't like kotlin
bold words

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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No

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Youre playing with fire bitch

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I will STAB you

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Come at me

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/ill-cut-you-threat-warning-pissed-mad-gif-4712383

Tenor

I'll cut you

▶ Play video

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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please explain your reasons for disliking kotlin

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I'd be happy to prove them all wrong

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@prisma wave You don't know slovenian yet

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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i know a bit

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Ok fuck kotlin
@signal tinsel what... the... fuck

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I'll try again later okay

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When I have an idea for a proper project to start with

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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make a language

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Join the competition

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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frigga can do a cool thing now

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Oh?

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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type coercion between single types and producers of the types

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Int can be coerced to () -> Int

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there's probably a practical application for this

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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That sounds familiar

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I've probably mentioned it before

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ah

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it means that you can do stuff like this https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_bLURistUJF.png

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because loop takes a () -> Bool, so it's reevaluated every time

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kinda cool idk

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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is that an assignment as an expression?

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Where?

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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the last line

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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It is an expression, but I don't think so in this case

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Oh, were you talking about the first parameter?

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 6:04 PM

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yes

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it's equivalent to loop(() -> someBoolean, { blah })

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so when the value of someBoolean changes to false, the loop breaks

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it's like passing by reference without the mutability

old wyvern Jul 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Was that an accidental feature or intended? xD

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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intended lol

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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sad

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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sad?

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Lol

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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clearly an accidental side effect being masqueraded as a feature

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I promise it's intentional lol

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it was actually somewhat annoying to implement

topaz bay Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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mhmm

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thats what they all say

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Ah yes: Oh you didn't want me to add force op? Should've specified - scenario

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 6:21 PM

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force op is great

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:00 PM

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https://spring.io/blog/2019/04/12/going-reactive-with-spring-coroutines-and-kotlin-flow "Java is the obvious default choice" smh Spring

Going Reactive with Spring, Coroutines and Kotlin Flow

Since we announced Spring Framework official support for Kotlin in January 2017, a lot of things happened. Kotlin was announced as an official Android development language at Google I/O 2017, we continued to improve the Kotlin support across Spring portfolio and Kotlin itse...

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I thought they'd know better

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Java literally is the default for spring

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:02 PM

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true

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but the way that's worded makes it sound like they're saying Java is better

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Can ya read

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:03 PM

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It then has 2 paragraphs about why you might want to use kotlin

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:04 PM

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okay me stupid

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Not to mention the article is literally about kotlin lol

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I think I'm gonna make some good use of Spring coroutines

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Kotlins null question mark thing is good

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Gotta give yall that

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:05 PM

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also what happened to GlobalScope in coroutines?

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:06 PM

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its amazing maffie 🙂

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Whats tjat

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:06 PM

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coroutines?

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from my understanding they run tasks on a new thread without any major performance implications

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:07 PM

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wdym what happened to it?

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:07 PM

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coroutines are very lightweight threads

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BM it's my fault I wasn't importing it properly I think

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Ic

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:08 PM

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lol bad dev xd

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Strictly speaking a coroutine isn't a thread

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It's more like a BukkitTask

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Is it similar to python?

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:08 PM

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On a thread pool

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Idk

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Just async shit?

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:09 PM

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yea

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:09 PM

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difference is though: you can run 100,000 coroutines that print "." no problem, with threads that would run out of memory

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and that's just performance differences

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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imagine running out of memory

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couldnt be me

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Why is that tho

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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because coroutines are very lightweight

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like, very, very lightweight

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Because they aren't threads

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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How that work

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Im tryna imagine how it works in my head

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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It's basically the BukkitScheduler on steroids

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And decoupled from bukkit

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Like visualize

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:12 PM

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A coroutine is equivalent to a BukkitTask

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Kk

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:12 PM

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the scheduler switches between all the tasks, if a task starts blocking it moves to another and returns when the blocking is finished

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Oh ok

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:13 PM

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fuck u bot

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tldr: kotlin good ( 😎 ) java bad ( 🤮 )

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:13 PM

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True

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Well said

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:13 PM

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5.13 am here

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:13 PM

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i tried to copy the tag from subreddit but dyno bot said fuck u

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Let’s go

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:14 PM

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go sleep aj

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I try but like

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I end up scrolling through shitty Instagram memes for ages

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:14 PM

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delete instagram

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sleep schedule fixed

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Speaking of which we probably need a kotlin memes Instagram

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:15 PM

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i dont have insta 🙁

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i literally dont have anything

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:15 PM

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📎 image0.png

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:15 PM

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unless u count whatsapp

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lmao

📎 Screenshot_20200704-201613_Discord.jpg

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3billion people have java in 1997 🤔🤔

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:16 PM

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🤔

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:17 PM

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also the one under that is funny

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:17 PM

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📎 image0.png

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:18 PM

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😂😂😂

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:18 PM

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My idol

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:18 PM

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what a legend

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hes a troublemaker 👀

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Also someone tell me how tf I get my Instagram on dark theme

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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no wonder kotlin devs like to cause trouble by saying kotlin good

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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📎 image0.png

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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NO

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Javagood has more things 😦

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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delete that

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Including some interesting results

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 7:20 PM

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@lost river Easier if you just ask here you know

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:21 PM

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📎 image0.png

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📎 image0.png

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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What a kotlin bad boy 😍 😍

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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he really is a bad boy

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Kirkuk bad boy

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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what did his t shirt say

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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*korlin

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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i am a what

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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**kotlin

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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sale gosse

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what that mean

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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It also has

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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"dirty kid"

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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📎 image0.png

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Cringe

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He is disgracing the kotlin name

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 7:23 PM

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📎 IMG_20200704_212416.jpg

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Ones a headphone jack and ones a USB cable

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I believe someone named their dog java

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:24 PM

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put it down

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Hence the badjava

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Bruh it’s not uploading

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:24 PM

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I would pay a lot of money to kick that dog

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:24 PM

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The image is just disappearing on my end lol

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Is it showing for u?

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The shirtless dude

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Nope

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Maybe Dyno thinks it's nsfw

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:26 PM

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I meaaan

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 7:27 PM

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📎 IMG_20200704_075958.jpg

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:28 PM

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📎 image0.png

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There we go

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No nudity here

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Wait what, since when does dyno detect image nudity lmao

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Idk if BM was joking but like

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Literally didn’t let me upload until I crossed him out

signal tinsel Jul 4, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Wow kotlin users are Toxic

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I'm pretty sure discord does it

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In non nsfw channels

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Would make sense yea

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But that's not really nsfw

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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~~let’s test it~~

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📎 image0.png

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Found a bypass

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Wow

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The Java dog

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Words cannot express how much I hate it

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Stinky dog

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:34 PM

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stinky 🤢

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:35 PM

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#fuckjava is an odd place

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I wanna kick it into a wall soooo hard

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😍 😍

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:35 PM

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📎 image0.png

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A very odd place

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:35 PM

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lol

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I wonder what they think it means

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Then we got this guy

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📎 image0.png

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Who’s not having a fun time

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:36 PM

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i wonder why

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:36 PM

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my man needs to learn basic java

obtuse gale Jul 4, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Then there’s the dude coding in sublime

📎 image0.png

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:37 PM

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EW

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he uses the ugly brace format

distant sun Jul 4, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Sublime ??

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:37 PM

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The really ugly one

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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he uses the ugly brace format
@prisma wave thats what voteparty uses haha

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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voteparty is allman

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Oh god those indentations

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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that is something far worse

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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No wonder he hates java lmao

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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lmao

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He doesn't deserve to be in college

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/university

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:42 PM

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university of York

versed ridge Jul 4, 2020, 7:43 PM

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That’s not allman?

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:43 PM

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allman doesn't indent the braces like that

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They stay vertically aligned with the start of the previous line

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:44 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200704-204427_Chrome.jpg

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thats vp

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dont look like allman to me

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 7:45 PM

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That's allman

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Just gh's dumb indentation

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Mhm

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:46 PM

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wat

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nvm

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📎 23de39fdb0f9f3a5747ddac36d9b780c23866f7a.png

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lmao

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:48 PM

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looks about right

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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what does that even mean lmao

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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no idea

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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allman trash anyway so doesn't matter what it means lol

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Oh I get it

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Allman = all men = gay

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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HAHAHAHA

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:50 PM

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The pinnacle of comedy

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:50 PM

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basically if u use allman in java then ur gay as allman is meant for c-type languages

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thats what its saying

jovial warren Jul 4, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Java is a c-type language

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?

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:50 PM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#

thats what its saying

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Depends how you define c-type

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But there are some very obvious resemblances

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I mean allman is nice, so GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:54 PM

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i dont mind it

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it keeps everything organised well

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its just too many brackets on new lines for me

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 7:55 PM

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If your company pays you per line of code it could mean more money 😏

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Then again what company does that

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 7:56 PM

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lmao

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writing in java must pay lots if that was the case 🙃

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anyone actually know the average salary of a java dev?

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from experience or whatnot

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 8:01 PM

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In USA it starts at like $40k afaik

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Probably about the same here

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Senior Java dev could pay upwards of £100k though

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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so its about the same as the average salary

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Depending on the company

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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but has more potential

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Kali hell naw

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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yea ofc

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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By average salary, you mean what?

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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i mean average salary in the US is like $40k

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like in general

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any job

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Interesting

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:03 PM

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UK is only £25k 🙁

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 8:03 PM

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It's even lower here

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Like damn

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:03 PM

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lmao

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what is it in slovenia kappa

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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20k if not even less

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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☹️

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start a revolution frosty

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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(upper class ofc more, but the avg)

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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u deserve more !!!

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I mean oir country got 5 bil, and what did they do with it?

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Jack shit

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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oh wow sounds like every other country

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Find ways to force a company to hire you, ez claps

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:05 PM

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gunpoint works well

hot hull Jul 4, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Non illegal way

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 8:06 PM

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its not illegal if u make the rules

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😉

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Establish a dictatorship just so you can get a job

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ez

slender onyx Jul 4, 2020, 8:51 PM

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any developer looking for hire?

prisma wave Jul 4, 2020, 8:51 PM

#

#727778089857187861

slender onyx Jul 4, 2020, 8:52 PM

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< 3

pastel imp Jul 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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what's the most optimized paper version?

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 10:12 PM

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depends

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if ur talking like which version is most optimized from spigot (excluding performance impacts of later versions) then probably 1.15

pastel imp Jul 4, 2020, 10:13 PM

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I mean the best to run in a server

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 10:13 PM

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but idk, that seems subjective

pastel imp Jul 4, 2020, 10:13 PM

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without lag

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etc

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the easiest and "lightest" paper

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 10:14 PM

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u cant really rely on a server jar for lag reasons

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it depends what server gamemode u want

pastel imp Jul 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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prison

onyx loom Jul 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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id recommend 1.12.2 then

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decent amount of new blocks, good performance

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anything above 1.13 will start to hit performance drastically

pastel imp Jul 4, 2020, 10:17 PM

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ok

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thx

distant sun Jul 4, 2020, 11:18 PM

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ok so clip uses some IChatBaseComponent from nms for his JSON system where you can add together multiple messages with &&, is there anything like this in spigot / bungee api?
IChatBaseComponent icbc = ChatSerializer.a(string);
icbc.addSibling(ChatSerializer.a(string));

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 2:07 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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yaaayyyy iterator

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Not bad

late grove Jul 5, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Does anyone know of a place where I can like sell software? Like discord games, but for non games.

hot hull Jul 5, 2020, 7:41 AM

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👌

📎 unknown.png

errant geyser Jul 5, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Oh god

obtuse gale Jul 5, 2020, 9:17 AM

#

@ocean quartz if you can hook it up live to your web cam, in theory couldnt you hook it up to like obs or something and play another game in minecraft?

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https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/452279708856614912/728026365063987260

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so like

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play Rainbow six siege in minecraft or something

dry coral Jul 5, 2020, 9:19 AM

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📎 a991fee.jpg

hot hull Jul 5, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Lmao

signal tinsel Jul 5, 2020, 11:54 AM

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Lmao yes

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 11:57 AM

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guys

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There's a fat multi someone start a conversation

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 11:57 AM

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girls

obtuse gale Jul 5, 2020, 11:58 AM

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KOTLIN GOOD

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JAVA BAD

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 11:58 AM

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kotlin?

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 11:58 AM

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preferably one too clever for kaliber 😏

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No xp for you

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 11:58 AM

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🙁

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kotlin is too good for me anyways

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i have only scraped the surface with its endless possibilities

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 11:59 AM

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kotlin is too good for all of us

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 11:59 AM

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so who wanna see my sexy pc that is totally not bubble wrapped rn

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 11:59 AM

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We are not worthy

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 11:59 AM

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its official

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I broke odin

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 11:59 AM

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yes

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:00 PM

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lol

glad spear Jul 5, 2020, 12:00 PM

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New pc?

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:00 PM

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hahahahahah

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therefore frigga better

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:00 PM

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kek

📎 JPEG_20200705_130006.jpg

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:00 PM

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cute

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:00 PM

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tradie i moved house

glad spear Jul 5, 2020, 12:00 PM

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ooh

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Nah

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I can fix it

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:00 PM

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That's what they all say

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:01 PM

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Its only broken because its kinda impossible to interpret this deep level of multi inheritance

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traits and classes are too similar

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I'm gonna redefine them

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:01 PM

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I see

#

I am also having a minor problem which I could use a second opinion on

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:02 PM

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redefine it by deleting it

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:02 PM

#

(trying to recall code from memory so might be wrong)

#

So if I have something like ```
someVar = 3
someFun = (someVar::Int, fun::() -> _) -> {
fun()
}
someFun(10, () -> println(someVar))

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Because the lambda resolves to the parameter named someVar not the property

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:04 PM

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I cannot even begin to comprehend that syntax

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:05 PM

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I'm so proud

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I'm sure you can see the point

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:05 PM

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I dont

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:05 PM

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I typed it on mobile so it might be wrong anyway

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:05 PM

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where is that fun() coming from?

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:05 PM

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The parameter named fun

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Oh wait, I see it

#

Are function type definitions not required to be in parens

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:06 PM

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what's this? void return type or optional parameter?

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prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:07 PM

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No they're not required

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It's a void return type

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:07 PM

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right well that's not clear imo

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:07 PM

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disgusting

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Shorthand for Nothing

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:07 PM

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so someFun takes an int and a function that takes nothing and returns nothing

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Yes

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Is this just an issue of scoping then?

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:08 PM

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But because there's a parameter named someVar, the lambda prints that instead of the property outside the function

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Probably

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Just looking for a clean way to do it

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:08 PM

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I mean, the context should search in to out

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:08 PM

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I was thinking lambdas would resolve properties upon definition but that wouldn't really work

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:08 PM

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It should come across the parameter first

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:08 PM

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it does

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:09 PM

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And you dont want that?

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:09 PM

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parameters are resolved first which in this case is incorrect

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it should print 3

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not 10

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I'll get another example hold on

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:10 PM

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No I completely get it now

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Alright cool

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Any suggestions?

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:11 PM

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I'm pretty sure for this exact reason, in Java functions carry a capture of their scope with them

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:12 PM

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I see

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So defining a function would take a copy of the scope it's defined in or something?

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Yes

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Seems like an easy fix

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:12 PM

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probably why they did that

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Ok let's give it a try

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:12 PM

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I mean it also just makes sense

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Yeah it does

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:13 PM

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I should add higher order functions to odin

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would be nice for interop

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:14 PM

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you should

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they are cool

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Also, I'm thinking about doing the thing that go does for "inheritance"

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Instead of having actual OO inheritance, inheritors just copy the definitions into themselves

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A sort of high level composition strategy

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:15 PM

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that's an interesting way of doing it

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in theory sounds better

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:15 PM

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It does

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Could also be good for static analysis

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Hear me out

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Cobol is the way to go

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:16 PM

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cobol 😁

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:16 PM

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📎 unknown.png

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:17 PM

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how about we all have like 1 week to learn cobol and see who can make the best program of their choice kek

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Yes... I like this

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Im gonna do this

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cobol is trash

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fuck cobol

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:17 PM

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lol

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:17 PM

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fuck u

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:17 PM

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please dont

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:17 PM

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😁

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Gen z cant accept the truth

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Typical

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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zoomer

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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That is objectively incorrect

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Soon theres gonna be a boom in cobol jobs 🙂

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#1 most used language

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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niall Inc.

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gonna be hiring everyone

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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#1 best payed language

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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$100/hr

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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every cobol system should be replaced with Kotlin

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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That is objectively incorrect
@topaz bay Infact

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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ez pz

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:18 PM

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It is cobjectivley correct

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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😂😂

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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@heady birch die.

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please

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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pelase

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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cobol is the best language i agree

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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😅

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😅

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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SHUT UP

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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😅😅

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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thanks pig

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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😦

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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i agree too

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its great isnt it?

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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that HOG's opinion is irrelevant

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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PlusOne cobol
MinusOne kotlen

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:19 PM

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🙂

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emoijis

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can some one make a bot make animation emojis

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😐

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like that

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Would be nice to use my skype emotes here

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:20 PM

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i haven't used skype since 2016

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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boost the server 🙂

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Absolutely not

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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why not

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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y not

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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meanie

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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cause fuck this server

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LOL

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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no fuck u

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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your life revolves around this server sx

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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I wish you wouldnt

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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face it

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:21 PM

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he is too cool for you

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM

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That is objectively incorrect

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My life revolved around Overwatch

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM

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not idiomatic, idiotic

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM

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oh

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you must have a pretty lonely life

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Which seems like a good idea to play right now

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM

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who even plays that shit anymore lol

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Yes, yes I do

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Is there a problem with that??

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:22 PM

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nah

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but

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tf2 > overwatch

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:23 PM

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anything is better than overwatch

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:23 PM

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tf2 is kinda dead sadly

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:23 PM

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cookie clicker > overwatch

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:23 PM

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tf2 is still one of the most played steam games brister

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:23 PM

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tf2 was ass

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:23 PM

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in terms of updates and stuff

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tf2 is dead

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:23 PM

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true but it's full of bots now

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:23 PM

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📎 unknown.png

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:23 PM

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last update was a case update that broke the game 😁

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:23 PM

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yeah you're probably right, definitely doesn't feel like a 70k player game

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:24 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXvwngCVwBk

YouTube

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The most relatable thing Kris Jenner has ever said

Subscribe for more

▶ Play video

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I sexually identify with this

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:24 PM

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lonely life

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:27 PM

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ahhhhh day drinking

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 12:31 PM

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new pfp

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cute

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:31 PM

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day drinking

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i swear its like 7am for u 🤔

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thats basically an alcoholic

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Thank you

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Also, its 8am

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:39 PM

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oh sorry

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please excuse my lack of knowledge as to where u live

distant sun Jul 5, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Nether

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:39 PM

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u can fill the knowledge if u wish

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:47 PM

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absolutely fucking not

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:47 PM

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fuck u too

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📎 Screenshot_20200705-134804_Discord.jpg

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:50 PM

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You say that quite often

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All bark no bite

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:50 PM

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🙁

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fuck u

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🙂

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:52 PM

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shame

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:53 PM

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u can fill the knowledge if u wish
Im pretty sure thats public tho 😂

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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idk man

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im not out here searching for peoples location on the interwebs

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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too bad

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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too bad indeed

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Yeah hes not a STALKER like you @old wyvern

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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😂

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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although its not very hard

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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👀

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

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look through the window sx

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

#

o

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

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oh please dont fuck with my drunk mind

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

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lol

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

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i would check just incase

hot hull Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Sx, check your closet

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😏

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

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nah, hes too much of a pussy

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Riighhtttt

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Also, my closet has no door

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I can see in it all the time

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:56 PM

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👀

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:56 PM

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oh please dont fuck with my drunk mindI wish I had a shot rn

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shit corona fucks up everything

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stuck at home

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:56 PM

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you should get overwatch

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:56 PM

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shame

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:56 PM

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drunk overwatch is the best

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:56 PM

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no

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I think I have it downloaded

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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do NOT get overwatch

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Let me check

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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u know what's better than drunk overwatch?

hot hull Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Drunk life

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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literally any other game

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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beign thrown out of a bar?

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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drunk poghramming

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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no?

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oh

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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programming

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fuck

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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😂😂

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

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POG

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youre just a hater piggy

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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nvm dont have overwatch downloaded

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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no hes not

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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📎 unknown.png

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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pig only states facts

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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That was on my friends laptop

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rip

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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yuuuhhhh get into ittttt

errant geyser Jul 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Overwatch is awful

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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maybe youre just awful at overwatch

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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eh I dont play much anyway

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only for assignments

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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get it BITCH

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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its impossible to be awful at overwatch if u play r6 siege @errant geyser

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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uh ok xD

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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what

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kaliber they're completely different games

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being a fucking god on rust doesn't make my grind on clash of clans any easier

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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😂

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its a JOKE

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but overwatch bad

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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not funny didn't laugh

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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thats not a joke

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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ye

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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its not on steam?

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 1:00 PM

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blizzard

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 1:00 PM

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yeah developers have been getting greedy relatively recently

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imagine wanting to keep money for yourself

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 1:00 PM

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battle.net if that's what its called

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 1:00 PM

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instead of giving 30% to steam

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Im not downloading another fucking store for games

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this is just annoying now

quiet depot Jul 5, 2020, 1:01 PM

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honestly I wish valve would relax on the fees a bit so things like epic games store stopped popping up

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 1:01 PM

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30% is overkill

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they dont need that much money

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 1:06 PM

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how do you not have battle net

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 1:06 PM

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because activision sucks kekw

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 1:14 PM

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YOU SUCK

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 1:56 PM

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u hurt my feewings 🙁

old wyvern Jul 5, 2020, 2:01 PM

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@JvmOverloads doesnt work on constructor defaults?

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nvm

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 2:54 PM

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@onyx loom its what you deserve

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 2:55 PM

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🙁

ocean quartz Jul 5, 2020, 3:00 PM

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@obtuse gale Yeah, i did make it stream from OBS to minecraft

obtuse gale Jul 5, 2020, 3:01 PM

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oo

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Could you then like

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hook into player move event or something

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just thinking out loud rn

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And somehow control another game from within inside mc

distant sun Jul 5, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Robi did that

obtuse gale Jul 5, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Is there much delay?

#

o

distant sun Jul 5, 2020, 3:02 PM

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<#showcase message>

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Dont expect 1080p60fps xd

ocean quartz Jul 5, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Yeah Robi did it already ;p

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@topaz bay Lmao when i first saw your picture it looked like you were putting lipsticks xD

topaz bay Jul 5, 2020, 3:18 PM

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equally likely scenario @ocean quartz

rotund egret Jul 5, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Trying to use String#substringBefore
is there a way to ignore the carriage? (kotlin)

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 5:08 PM

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use a raw string maybe idk

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 5:29 PM

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as in the \r ?

rotund egret Jul 5, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Yeah, I got it.
Thanks 🙂

faint bobcat Jul 5, 2020, 5:58 PM

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@prisma wave hey man have you ever used JB's Exposed framework?

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Kotlin orm, that looks nice

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But not quite hibernate

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 6:03 PM

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nah never used it before, from what I've seen it's pretty nice though

faint bobcat Jul 5, 2020, 6:03 PM

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hm

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will be soon integrating a lot of databases in my plugin and not sure if i should use Exposed + hikaricp or just my own abstraction + hikaricp

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Or spring data 🙂

faint bobcat Jul 5, 2020, 6:05 PM

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🤔 that's new to me

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sounds like gson but for databases

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 6:05 PM

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There is absolutley no reason to not use Spring

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Other than file size if an issue

faint bobcat Jul 5, 2020, 6:06 PM

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it shouldn't be much of an issue since i download kotlin stdlib at runtime and load it

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along with okio, okhttp and drivers

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so shrug

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but spring data seems pretty cool

hot hull Jul 5, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Niall do you eat spring jesus, everything someone asks you mention spring

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 6:17 PM

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frostyy u need to expand ur horizons

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kotlin good spring good

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but u keep saying they bad 🙁

hot hull Jul 5, 2020, 6:18 PM

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You have no proof that I said that.

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 6:18 PM

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true

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u more imply it

hot hull Jul 5, 2020, 6:19 PM

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This is also blasphemy, as you are saying non realistic things in order to make me look bad.

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 6:19 PM

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🤔🤔

rotund egret Jul 5, 2020, 6:26 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/MAcZn2k.png

Imgur

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 6:27 PM

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😂😂

analog crater Jul 5, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Inspect tool go brbrbrbrrrr

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 6:32 PM

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fr tho apparently spring is really good @hot hull

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 6:46 PM

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It takes literally hours to write up basic prototypes

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days for some full fledged solution

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planning literally takes 10x longer

hot hull Jul 5, 2020, 6:58 PM

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@rotund egret That is falsified evidence. Continuation of such blasphemy shall result in legal actions to be taken against you.

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 7:03 PM

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https://img.bristermitten.me/Discord_dfkHk8ibXw.png 🤔

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 7:06 PM

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awww frosty ♥️

heady birch Jul 5, 2020, 7:10 PM

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I have yet to combine the power of spring with kotlin

onyx loom Jul 5, 2020, 7:14 PM

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what u waiting for

obtuse gale Jul 5, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Anyone ever worked with holographicdisplays api?

So i am trying to make a stats leaderboard per player, which works. it creates fine, but i am having issues with updating the hologram.
Whenever i want to update the board for that player, i need to be able to access it. i was wondering how i would be able to do that. Because now it just creates everytime a new hologram and does'n delete the old one. But i need to be able to or clear the lines and re-add the lines, or delete the hologram for ONLY that player and recreate it. Anyone can help me out or does have any examples.

jovial warren Jul 5, 2020, 7:46 PM

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not again... https://bin.bardy.me/Hwiqnh34.pl

frail glade Jul 5, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Need to get something clarified. If you have multiple projects using a gradle daemon, they will each spin up a new daemon for that project only to be utilized for future builds until the daemon turns itself off, right? Meaning I can just specify in the gradle.properties not to keep the daemon on in order to save ram after the build?

outer crater Jul 5, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Hi

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I need help with one thing

hot hull Jul 5, 2020, 8:40 PM

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We read minds, ask away

prisma wave Jul 5, 2020, 8:56 PM

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This might be a dumb question, but would something written in C be faster than something written in Java/Kotlin (excluding JVM startup time). It seems like the answer should be yes, but if they both are compiled to machine code then maybe not?

distant sun Jul 5, 2020, 8:56 PM

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C makes me cry