dev-general

[old wyvern]

Im pretty sure kotlin just calls that from the top level func

[prisma wave]

it's inline

so yes

[topaz bay]

language. FEATURE.

god dammit

[obtuse gale]

thats just confusing

[old wyvern]

@prisma wave Is the FriggaParser class not supposed to be in the repo?

[topaz bay]

How is that confusing?

[prisma wave]

it gets generated

gradle generateGrammarSource

[hot hull]

How should one measure code performance?

[heady birch]

Jprofiler!

or YourKit!

[obtuse gale]

wouldnt push (1+2) make more sense?

[remote goblet]

if it doesnt happen instantly your code is garbage

0ms or nothing

[topaz bay]

?????

[obtuse gale]

oh wait

lemmoh yeah nvm

[topaz bay]

The point is that push can be interleaved into expression evaluations

[obtuse gale]

i just misread it lol

[prisma wave]

imagine only having 3 unit tests

[topaz bay]

Imagine not writing your own code

😉

[prisma wave]

imagine reinventing the wheel

[topaz bay]

Imagine not being able to reinvent the wheel

[errant geyser]

Which one of ur languages is better

I wanna include one in KatOS

[prisma wave]

imagine being able to but choosing not to waste time

frigga better

[topaz bay]

You literally based all your internals on my code

[prisma wave]

not all

[topaz bay]

LIES

[prisma wave]

i took inspiration

[old wyvern]

@prisma wave Most work fine, yield and nested call tests seem to be failing

[prisma wave]

yeah those are buggy atm

[old wyvern]

ah

[prisma wave]

do you get anything like this? line 4:0 mismatched input 'print' expecting {<EOF>, NEWLINE} line 3:0 mismatched input 'println' expecting {<EOF>, NEWLINE} line 2:0 mismatched input 'use' expecting {<EOF>, NEWLINE} line 7:0 mismatched input 'yield' expecting {<EOF>, NEWLINE} line 3:0 mismatched input 'struct' expecting {<EOF>, NEWLINE}

[old wyvern]

Otherwise it seems to run just fine

no nothing like that

[errant geyser]

So Odin or Frigga?

[prisma wave]

very strange

[topaz bay]

Imagine not writing your own parser

[prisma wave]

must be my pc then

ok thanks for testing

[topaz bay]

And having it not work

CAnT RELATE

[prisma wave]

it's worked fine up until now

CABT

[topaz bay]

Yeah yeah

Thats what they all say

If you had written it yourself, you wouldnt have issues with this

[prisma wave]

https://img.bristermitten.me/Discord_xnuxP1UhsS.png works fine in linux

just windows bad apparently

[topaz bay]

I will tell you though, your issue is probably because windows also uses \r

[prisma wave]

possibly

but if it worked for Yugi

and I am taking \r into account

[errant geyser]

Odin or Frigga? Which is better right now?

[prisma wave]

https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_yXnKl2Zd9t.png

[onyx loom]

u choose katsu

[prisma wave]

😦

it's intellij's fault

[topaz bay]

\r doesnt mean new line

[prisma wave]

works fine inside the terminal

[topaz bay]

it means beginning of this line

[prisma wave]

ik

[onyx loom]

but id say kotlin 🙃

[prisma wave]

but windows uses \r\n for newlines I believe

[topaz bay]

which is why I treat it as whitespace

[old wyvern]

\n\r right?

[prisma wave]

possibly

[errant geyser]

Sx Odin runs on the JVM right?

[topaz bay]

...

Its kotlin dude

https://github.com/Sxtanna/odin

[errant geyser]

so yes then

ok

Wait I could write a minecraft plugin in it then yeah?

[topaz bay]

probably not

[prisma wave]

pretty sure neither of us have done interop very well

[topaz bay]

I mean...

I have

[hot hull]

Have you tho

[topaz bay]

You can create instances of java types

And call methods on them

[prisma wave]

https://img.bristermitten.me/WindowsTerminal_v4gXpoZLiq.png https://img.bristermitten.me/WindowsTerminal_hZxHrBi5RI.png am I going insane???

[prisma wave]

constructor parameters?

[topaz bay]

generate a thousand doubles in 80 ms

And nope

No syntax for it yet

[prisma wave]

lol

shame

use "JVM:java.lang.Math"

sqrt = (value::Dec) -> Dec {
    sqrt = Math.sqrt(value)
    yield(sqrt)
}
``` infinitely better

[topaz bay]

Thats fucking ugly

LOL

[prisma wave]

😦

[errant geyser]

If u 2 worked on a lang together I bet it would be infinately better than what you both have now

[prisma wave]

no

never

[topaz bay]

BRUH

He basically took what I have, and gave it a different front end

We practically already are working on the same lang

[prisma wave]

not true

[errant geyser]

You would shit talk each other into finding the most efficient process for everything so you could brag about it

[old wyvern]

BM does it provide an alias for the "use" ?

[prisma wave]

an alias?

wdym?

[old wyvern]

yea

like are you able to refer to that specific class with other names if specified

[prisma wave]

Oh not atm

[topaz bay]

hmmmmmmmm

I wonder where THAT came from

[prisma wave]

what can I say

[topaz bay]

OH YEAH

[prisma wave]

mine isn't a sealed class

[topaz bay]

Its from ODIN

[prisma wave]

therefore better

[topaz bay]

Your allfather

[prisma wave]

I took inspiration

[errant geyser]

Sx ima have to hand this one to BM, he doesn't use Allman and yours is OS to he took inspiration :))))))))))

[prisma wave]

he doesn't use Allman
😳

Oh yeah I don't

Wtf

[errant geyser]

I was about to say what are you on

[prisma wave]

Pretty sure I do everywhere else in the project

[errant geyser]

Damn you

Why

[prisma wave]

Soz

Looks better in practice

[errant geyser]

😠

[topaz bay]

Imagine considering not using allman to be an advantage

[prisma wave]

Imagine

[errant geyser]

Odin is superior because its actually functional

[dapper marlin]

Hello!
Does anyone know how i can disable or change this message when i open a menu in DeluxeMenus?
https://prnt.sc/t9reh9

[prisma wave]

frigga is functional

On everything but my pc

[errant geyser]

I thought you couldn't do if statements?

[prisma wave]

You can't atm

they don't exist yet

But it's still functional

in both senses lol

[topaz bay]

fuck if

when is where its at

[prisma wave]

imagine not having match

it's like when but shit because it's not a language feature

https://www.github.com/SoftwarePantheon/Frigga/tree/master/examples%2Fcalculator.fg

[errant geyser]

ur org wack

[prisma wave]

yeah tbh :(

I wanted sx to join but no

[topaz bay]

what

WHAT

Thats literally a lie

[errant geyser]

Hey just wait until I start to make my own lang, its gonna be so autistic

[prisma wave]

I mean I wanted you to move Odin over

I did I think

[onyx loom]

no need to shout.

[prisma wave]

lol

[topaz bay]

Lets just merge them into Hela

Oh wait

nvm thats not her mom

fuck

[prisma wave]

no

[topaz bay]

Merge them into Thor

[prisma wave]

idiot

[topaz bay]

WOW OK

Fuck you too Alex

[prisma wave]

:)

[topaz bay]

See, I try to be kind

But you treat me like this

[prisma wave]

We can do Thor when Odin and frigga are finished

[topaz bay]

IMPOSSIBLE

Languages are never finished

[prisma wave]

true lol

but at the very least basically functional

is Odin turing complete?

[errant geyser]

Dude my OS is gonna be so flawed you'll probably be able to trigger a kernel panic in less than a minute

[prisma wave]

uh oh

[onyx loom]

pls dont make an os

[old wyvern]

the first 4 bytes of a .class file is "CAFEBABE" in hex xD

[prisma wave]

ah yes

[errant geyser]

pls dont make an os
Why kaliber

Fun, and good learning experience

[onyx loom]

just sounds like a bad idea

[topaz bay]

How do you even begin to measure that

[old wyvern]

also CAFEDEAD for object format xD

[errant geyser]

nobody will actually use it

[topaz bay]

I think it would be turing complete if I am able to run odin from odin

Which would not be hard

[old wyvern]

I mean aren't you still running on jvm if you run odin on odin

[topaz bay]

Yes

Im pretty sure its already turing complete actually

[prisma wave]

but could you write an Odin parser in Odin

[topaz bay]

Probably yes

[prisma wave]

Do it

[old wyvern]

Write a frigga parser in odin

[topaz bay]

Absolutely fucking not

[prisma wave]

Oooo

[onyx loom]

why not

[prisma wave]

I'll write an Odin parser in frigga

[old wyvern]

Im writing a frigga compiler

[onyx loom]

thats the spirit

[prisma wave]

to compile to what?

[old wyvern]

👀

to jvm

[onyx loom]

share some of this love sx

[topaz bay]

Im gonna write a brainfuck parser

[prisma wave]

Oo

[old wyvern]

isnt brainfuck parser supposed to be easy to make?

[topaz bay]

Yes

[prisma wave]

brainfuck is probably really easy to parse

[topaz bay]

Brainfuck is turing complete though

[old wyvern]

wait how?

o.o

[topaz bay]

Because it can do anything

[prisma wave]

With immense amounts of effort and pain

[old wyvern]

Yea but you cant read what you wrote 2 mins ago

istn everything bit level?

[prisma wave]

in theory you could make an assembly > brainfuck compiler

[old wyvern]

or bytelevel

[prisma wave]

Which would make it easier

it's bit level I think

[old wyvern]

ah

[prisma wave]

oh ffs

so the problem was I'd defined whitespace as [ \t\r\n] instead of [ \n\t\r]

[heady birch]

I'm working on CDIF now

[errant geyser]

Not CDIF3?

😦

[heady birch]

CDIF1

[errant geyser]

The 3 makes all the difference

Once its done I'll PR it and change that

Instant downloads

[wary sedge]

guys I need some Linux optimization tips

ping me when u have help

thanks

[heady birch]

😕

@wary sedge

[errant geyser]

You're using Linux, what do you want optimised

[wary sedge]

speed

tps

[heady birch]

Oh

Minecraft related

[wary sedge]

rn at 19.75

ye

tps

[heady birch]

have you tried aikar flags and stuff?

[errant geyser]

I thought u were on about OS

[wary sedge]

server

yes

have you tried aikar flags and stuff?
@heady birch ye

[errant geyser]

Yeah, Akars flags, don't use random useless plugins, pregen your world, etc

[wary sedge]

how pregen

I bad

[errant geyser]

WorldBorder

[wary sedge]

kitpvp hub prac etc

ok

but need to increase tps

of servers

I have 7

1 bungee 6 tacospigot

[obtuse gale]

rn at 19.75

I mean

thats not bad

[wary sedge]

but ppl complain about lag

sometimes spike 12

tps

lol

[obtuse gale]

Well the spikes a problem, 19.75 isnt

[wary sedge]

ik

someone help pls

fix spikes

[errant geyser]

Have you done what I said

[wary sedge]

ye

but 1 player on

at spawn

still

lag

[errant geyser]

It takes longer than 12 seconds to pregen 6 servers worlds

[wary sedge]

different servers, not worlds

[errant geyser]

I know

It takes longer than 12 seconds to pregen 6 servers worlds

[wary sedge]

but after like 5 min still spike

so idk

[errant geyser]

Then take a timings report

[wary sedge]

I did

all fine tho

fawe using 160%

idk what It mean

I not at home btw

[errant geyser]

Are you doing some super heavy world edit operations?

[frigid badge]

what are your server's specs

[errant geyser]

Also if we could see the timings report that would be better

[wary sedge]

no

17, 64g ram

i7

I me an

[frigid badge]

how many players

show your plugin list

and show the timings report yea

and yup pregenerating worlds is also very helpful

[wary sedge]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=d58679f49cc847518750b4890f8493cc

ok

LuckPerms, LunarClientAPI, Skript, Verus, PlaceholderAPI, ClearLag, QLib, DisableJoinMessage, PlugMan, Cloud_Console_v2.0, FreezeGUI, SetSpawn, ToggleChat, InfiniteJump, NametagEdit, Blacklist, ConsoleSpamFix, MassSayReborn, AntiDrop-item, TogglePM, FastAsyncWorldEdit, EnderButts, PermissionFinder, SuperSudo, PlayerLogger, CommandSync, Vault, ProtocolSupport, GrantX, WorldEdit, DeluxeHub, Essentials, NamelessMC, ServerSelectorX, WorldGuard, Citizens, ViaVersion, ChatEx, CommandNPC, ProtocolLib, LiteBans

[heady birch]

final Environment environment = new ApplicationEnvironment();
environment.bind(SomeInterface.class, SomeImplementation.class);
        
final SomeInterface object = environment.getInstance(SomeInterface.class);

You guys like this format?

[prisma wave]

how does that even work

what would the value of object be?

[heady birch]

example

lol

probably a bad one

Changed to a better example

[prisma wave]

looks alright

[heady birch]

Im not the best at choosing names

environment sounds alright

[still python]

mmh

[heady birch]

Yes?

[wary sedge]

LuckPerms, LunarClientAPI, Skript, Verus, PlaceholderAPI, ClearLag, QLib, DisableJoinMessage, PlugMan, Cloud_Console_v2.0, FreezeGUI, SetSpawn, ToggleChat, InfiniteJump, NametagEdit, Blacklist, ConsoleSpamFix, MassSayReborn, AntiDrop-item, TogglePM, FastAsyncWorldEdit, EnderButts, PermissionFinder, SuperSudo, PlayerLogger, CommandSync, Vault, ProtocolSupport, GrantX, WorldEdit, DeluxeHub, Essentials, NamelessMC, ServerSelectorX, WorldGuard, Citizens, ViaVersion, ChatEx, CommandNPC, ProtocolLib, LiteBans
help

[hot hull]

delete system32

[foggy pond]

How is 1.16.1 performance wise?

[hot hull]

Take a wild guess

[foggy pond]

Better? : D

I mean 1.15.2 saw some vast over 1.14 performance wise

[heady birch]

👀

1.13 was the real bad one

[foggy pond]

Is 1.12 still more stable than 1.16

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave >:)

[prisma wave]

ew

if you wanna see something cool

feast your eyes on this

https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_eP8SeJ01yO.png

importing if 😎

[topaz bay]

Thats a lot of fucking braces

LOL

[prisma wave]

indeed

[heady birch]

wheres ->

dont you need that?

'>' -> {
}

[topaz bay]

??

Its not... kotlin

[heady birch]

Odin

[prisma wave]

is case gonna be like when?

[heady birch]

oh yeah ofc

[topaz bay]

Id say its more like switch

[heady birch]

Odin

[prisma wave]

idk why you'd want something like switch but ok

[topaz bay]

Why wouldnt I?

[prisma wave]

switch bad

when good

[topaz bay]

con.cise.

[prisma wave]

not bad

[heady birch]

Nice names

This aint asm though LOL

[topaz bay]

fun fact

I never implemented --

lol

[heady birch]

OPER

[heady birch]

How tf did intellij pick this up?

Based on the method name I assume?

[prisma wave]

Yeah I imagine so

[heady birch]

Lol

What would you call a "non singleton"

like a pojo

object

[prisma wave]

An instance?

[heady birch]

Reusable and disposable sound cool

[old wyvern]

Wait what?

[errant geyser]

@heady birch Do I see a light theme Apple user

Ugh

[heady birch]

Lmao

NiallBinder

[old wyvern]

Nialception

[hot hull]

@old wyvern This is what I meant btw https://paste.helpch.at/awuhiwuluc.java

[old wyvern]

I think the other is better

[heady birch]

🤢

[old wyvern]

Using String for message keys will end up having you have to lookup the exact string value everytime

[distant sun]

Enums ftw

[hot hull]

Enums are tedious tho, I mean yea when you have a set of messages and you aren't constantly adding things they're nice, but I prefer this since I just call the key, without having to go and set it in the enum

[old wyvern]

Set what in the enum?

[heady birch]

😐

Tedious?

[distant sun]

It's the same thing as using config.getString() though

[old wyvern]

I find using Strings for this purpose more tedious

I had to deal with this earlier

[distant sun]

So you arent doing anything really

[heady birch]

Static class ftw

[old wyvern]

eq

ew

[distant sun]

Shush niall xd

[heady birch]

I do use that

[distant sun]

Lets not give him even worse ideas

[heady birch]

Then I have the ConfigurationPropertyProviderManager populate the fields

[distant sun]

ConfigMe works with static fields for key but thats a whole other story

[hot hull]

Yugi, you have to add it to two places if you go with the enum route, whereas here only 1

[old wyvern]

2 places?

[distant sun]

^

[old wyvern]

no?

[distant sun]

It's just the enum, isn't it?

[hot hull]

And the config

[old wyvern]

That shouldnt be much of an issue

[distant sun]

But why have to use "message.path.here" 5 times when you can just call Message.MESSAGE_ID

[old wyvern]

load on start

[distant sun]

I mean, whats the point of your class then?

[hot hull]

Why y'all such haters all the time sheesh

[old wyvern]

or just have the Enum#getMessage call the config for the message value I guess

[distant sun]

Isnt like the bukkit configuration sustem constantly read the values from the actual file

It's not hate

[old wyvern]

yea

Its just easier to manage this way

[hot hull]

Again, it's not

But you do you

[distant sun]

But your system does nothing different that config.getX(path, def)

[hot hull]

plugin.getMessageLoader().getListMessage("discord-message")

And then you do etc, it still loads them on startup

[distant sun]

It's .. useless?

[hot hull]

You're useless

[old wyvern]

Why have you added the message to a hashmap ??

[distant sun]

Configs are already in memory

[heady birch]

That's unnecessary

[distant sun]

Why fo you think you have to call reloadConfig()? To read the file and load the new values

[heady birch]

Why pass plugin when you only need the MessageLoader

[old wyvern]

Why would you pass the plugin for messages even the other way around?

The whole point of having enums for this is to have easier to use Keys

[distant sun]

Do whatever you want but imo that isnt a better system than config.getX()

[heady birch]

Sounds like you need a DI container 🙂

[old wyvern]

No

No

[distant sun]

A what

[old wyvern]

I cant hear another NiaDl or whatever

[heady birch]

Still working on a name

NiallInject
NiallBinder
Ninjector

[distant sun]

Nialdi

[heady birch]

That face scares me

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave

I have successfully implemented case conditions

[prisma wave]

well done

it's hideous

[topaz bay]

Thank you

[onyx loom]

very hideous i must add

[hot hull]

ew

[onyx loom]

🤢

[hot hull]

Yeeting that folder as soon as IJ opens up

[onyx loom]

if its in the project

it aint worth opening at all

[hot hull]

It's Saber facs, modifying it

@quiet depot And you say my code is oof

    @Override
    public TL getUsageTranslation() {
        return TL.COMMAND_ALTS_DESCRIPTION;
    }

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave

may not look like it

But thats hello world my dude

[onyx loom]

e

[topaz bay]

better

[onyx loom]

E

[prisma wave]

Cute

[topaz bay]

Thank you

The only issue is that I use a Java class for interop

[hot hull]

Anyone got any spare bleach?

[topaz bay]

Cause Odin doesn't have a byte type

[onyx loom]

:whatthefuck:

[hot hull]

Dude the entire fucking class is static

Like what the fuck was this man smoking

[onyx loom]

🙂

[topaz bay]

Hardcoded timezone

Yikes

[onyx loom]

EST

[hot hull]

@old wyvern This you?

Username 'Goku' tried to join with an invalid session

[prisma wave]

https://img.bristermitten.me/idea64_V4gqshP7nn.png well this is... depressing

[onyx loom]

😔

[prisma wave]

optimizing time

[remote goblet]

@prisma wave OW sucks

[prisma wave]

does it?

[remote goblet]

yes

i was doing very well as echo in a game

and then both the tanks left

[prisma wave]

unfortunate

[remote goblet]

end of season comp bro

it sucks

[prisma wave]

ah yes

well

[onyx loom]

@remote goblet get a better pc and play a better game with me 😔

[remote goblet]

get me one then

[onyx loom]

🙄

19 days

[remote goblet]

20

its july 21st

[onyx loom]

o

[remote goblet]

what games do you have

[onyx loom]

me and @errant geyser in the RL and siege gang 😎

[errant geyser]

😎

@hot hull waitin on that PR boi

[remote goblet]

I have siege

and rocket league

[onyx loom]

can u run it

[remote goblet]

I can run rocket league

not really tested siege

[onyx loom]

🎉

theres no way u can run siege haha

[remote goblet]

i donteven think i have siege installed

[old wyvern]

Username 'Goku' tried to join with an invalid session```
@hot hull No I just woke up

[jovial warren]

Goku lol

isn't that the anime fighter who can fuse with other fighters, channel the energy of the entire universe, and literally become a god?

[errant geyser]

Anime 🤢

[remote goblet]

:AShihi:

[onyx loom]

jesus fuck niall

delete this.

[ocean quartz]

How to find Kotlin users

[old wyvern]

lol

[onyx loom]

🙂

[prisma wave]

wow

invite them to r/kotlinmemes

[onyx loom]

+1 was thinking the same

great minds think alike

[old wyvern]

@prisma wave What would be a better way to write a when expression where each branch is a null check?

[prisma wave]

you could use ?.let

Not sure that's cleaner or not

[old wyvern]

When only matches with 1 condition branch right?

[prisma wave]

not 100% sure what you mean but yes

can you show code?

[old wyvern]

I mean like

when {
      true -> print("a")
      true -> print("b")
}```
It would only print ``a`` and not ``ab``

or am I wrong about this

can you show code?Planning it out rn

[prisma wave]

It will print both I believe

[old wyvern]

uh rip

[onyx loom]

i dont think it will

[old wyvern]

Actually i can probably just continue the loop just in case

[onyx loom]

yeah looping would fix it for sure

i remember having a situation like this, and it was only checking the first condition that was met, then ending the when

[old wyvern]

oh wait no

[prisma wave]

Interesting

[old wyvern]

Only 1 would be run logically since its an expression

right?

If it goes into multiple branches that would be multiple returning values

[prisma wave]

good point

[old wyvern]

bm room 1

[prisma wave]

I can't rn

it's late here

not on pc

[onyx loom]

bed time

[old wyvern]

ah

[dense roost]

whats kotlin

[onyx loom]

an awesome language

[versed ridge]

best language

[old wyvern]

Its another jvm language

It can also be compiled to js and its own native bytecode tho

[dense roost]

why is it better than java then?

[prisma wave]

here we go

[onyx loom]

less boilerplate

hahahahahaha

[old wyvern]

I wouldnt say better

[prisma wave]

cleaner, less verbose, richer standard library, more syntactical sugar, null safety as part of the type system, etc etc

[old wyvern]

It essentially just removes a lot of boilerplate by writing it for you

[prisma wave]

only if you compare it to Java

[old wyvern]

true

[prisma wave]

As a standalone language that's not really a feature

It's just how the language is designed

[old wyvern]

Is it used as a standalone anywhere?

Jvm is the most used afaik

[dense roost]

I mean why use kotlin if java is good established

[onyx loom]

im sure native has its own ups and downs over jvm

[dense roost]

Other than boilerplate?

[old wyvern]

Depends totally on you

[prisma wave]

cleaner, less verbose, richer standard library, more syntactical sugar, null safety as part of the type system, etc etc

that's why

and yeah JVM is definitely the main backend, but the other 2 are gaining traction

[onyx loom]

null safety 😍

[prisma wave]

indeed

@dense roost it's also fully interoperable with Java

[dense roost]

How null safe?

[old wyvern]

All jvm languages are

[prisma wave]

You can have Java and Kotlin classes in the same project

[dense roost]

Can you?

[old wyvern]

How null safe?It turns NPEs to a compile time issue

[prisma wave]

Pretty much

[onyx loom]

i got a meme for the subreddit

[prisma wave]

Nullability has to be explicitly handled

[dense roost]

That's lit

[prisma wave]

and declared

indeed

[onyx loom]

idk if i can do it as im on mobile tho 🙁

[old wyvern]

It also means you have to account for everything being null and not null everytime

and if you dont

[prisma wave]

eg val name: String will never be null, but val name: String? can be, and so you have to explicitly null check

[old wyvern]

You scrape along a @Nullable on the object all the way

[prisma wave]

@onyx loom do it

[old wyvern]

or in kotlin's way, a '?' is appended to the end of the object to show its annotated by that

[dense roost]

And there's no issue when working with both Kotling and Java together?

[old wyvern]

Mhm

No issues

[dense roost]

Sounds too good

[prisma wave]

occasionally kotlin -> java needs workarounds but it all works flawlessly

I would recommend you give it a try

If you know Java then it's easy to learn

[onyx loom]

too good but its true 😁

[prisma wave]

indeed

[dense roost]

hmm I will give it a try

[prisma wave]

join the cult

:)

[onyx loom]

easy to learn either way, considering this is the first language ive been learning

[old wyvern]

🤷‍♂️

[onyx loom]

ive a sm0l brain, and i reckon java would give me much headaches 🙃

[old wyvern]

It wouldnt

[onyx loom]

just like the meme on the subreddit

[prisma wave]

@old wyvern is Djinn your language?

[old wyvern]

Plus if you are into this development probably have to deal with other languages

yes bm

[prisma wave]

Ooh cool

syntax?

[old wyvern]

I mean im still writing it so uh

Ill let you know in a few days

xD

[prisma wave]

alright lol

join the party

[old wyvern]

ayy

[prisma wave]

writing a Lexer from scratch I see👀

[old wyvern]

Yea

[dense roost]

How would I extend a class in kotlin

[old wyvern]

Im interested in trying the whole thing

[prisma wave]

class Name : ParentClass()

It's pretty fun

[old wyvern]

mhm\

lol

[prisma wave]

nice

is that like a = 5?

[old wyvern]

I havent gotten that far

[prisma wave]

I mean the actual input you were lexing

[old wyvern]

Still working on the lexer and tokenizer

[prisma wave]

Or was it just a 5

[old wyvern]

oh it was the other

        a = 5;
        b = 465;
        c = "t"est""
    """.trimIndent()

    val tokens: List<Token> = input.lexAsDjinn();```

[prisma wave]

ah cool

[onyx loom]

new meme

go upvote

r/kotlinmemes

[old wyvern]

Also my university finally decided to start course registration from the 4th so my classes are starting soon ☠️

@onyx loom link

[onyx loom]

https://reddit.com/r/kotlinmemes

yugi, i have college in the morning 😭😭

midnight rn, and i gotta wake up in 7 hours 😔

pain

[old wyvern]

xD

welp

I have only 2 more days free days I guess now

[onyx loom]

spend them wisely 👌

do u have to go back every day now, or is it just a few days?

as i only have to go back 2nd and 6th of july

[old wyvern]

What in the hell have I seen 😂

do u have to go back every day now, or is it just a few days?Online classes for now, I have to travel back there next month aparently tho

[onyx loom]

what in the hell

ah. pain

anyway i need to go sleep now. gn

👋

[old wyvern]

Ciao

[old wyvern]

@prisma wave Found a way to get around the huge when expression

[topaz bay]

....

@pallid gale please

PLEASE

I don't deserve to be bullied like this

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave

constructor params

yaaayyyy

[ocean quartz]

Nice! And that's pretty fast too

[topaz bay]

Its literally just repurposed logic from function parameter parsing xD

[old wyvern]

They finally decided to reveal this semester's courses lmao

[hot hull]

Anyone got any spare bleach?

[onyx loom]

🙂

[heady birch]

Lol

Very nice

[obtuse gale]

best intellij font?

[hot hull]

Comic Sans

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/661826326692364298/728180125237248010/29719df.png

[heady birch]

Lol

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

uh this is wierd

Just realised its a different 'person' every time

Its kind of creepy when one pops up that has rendered wrong

[onyx loom]

@obtuse gale most people recommend material atom one dark afaik

the standard darcula theme is pretty good too

[topaz bay]

@heady birch the cat one is nightmare fuel

what in the HELL

IS THAT

[onyx loom]

cursed

[hot hull]

Anyone got any utils to convert this 1h 30m 16s to seconds

[quiet depot]

https://github.com/PiggyPiglet/TimeAPI

[hot hull]

Thanks

[heady birch]

what in the HELL
@topaz bay I was scared id refresh the page and something like this would come up

[jovial warren]

lol

[hot hull]

@quiet depot Does it do it vice versa as well or?

[quiet depot]

@hot hull no

use a date formatter for that

[hot hull]

Already got my own for that ee

[covert blaze]

hey

does anyone know what causes this

1sec

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695969835418386452/728223035685077044/unknown.png

[jovial warren]

sure that's the right placeholder?

[covert blaze]

I previously had it working but now it's started to do this

using deluxechat

I use % for the placeholder

I don't know why it's showing as {}

[jovial warren]

okay

[covert blaze]

it's weird

[jovial warren]

what server version you on?

[covert blaze]

1.8.9

[jovial warren]

okay

[covert blaze]

Like I said it has previously worked Idk why it isn't now

Maybe something's conflicting but I haven't really installed anything that could conflict

[jovial warren]

got PAPI installed?

[remote goblet]

i feel like i shouldn't be doing this

[jovial warren]

discord link????

[remote goblet]

shut up

i'm bored

[jovial warren]

also you gotta do that

[obtuse gale]

what feels illegal?

[remote goblet]

Im talking about a kotlin class extending JavaPlugin

[obtuse gale]

o

[covert blaze]

I do have papi installed

[jovial warren]

it's just the way it is @remote goblet

okay

what chat plugin you using?

[covert blaze]

I've tried re-installing PAPI and both plugins

deluxechat

[remote goblet]

did you download the ecloud

[covert blaze]

ye

[remote goblet]

also this is not the right channel, ya nerds

[jovial warren]

yeah ideally you should be in #general-plugins

[remote goblet]

or #deluxechat

[jovial warren]

also do you have deluxe_chat set to true in your DeluxeTags config @covert blaze ?

[covert blaze]

yes

[prisma wave]

@remote goblet why would that be illegal lol

[remote goblet]

[wary sedge]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=b3e6531c87b4443fa5e0fd2fef77163b
any signs of problems/inconsistencies? my servers lagging with players on. normally 19.99tps, then becomes 12 when ppl join, then goes to 15-18. 😦 help

[loud gyro]

The 'everyone' mention is disabled so you can't annoy people.

[quiet depot]

damn

[wary sedge]

i was testing

[quiet depot]

you fr just try to tag 6.6k people

[wary sedge]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=b3e6531c87b4443fa5e0fd2fef77163b
any signs of problems/inconsistencies? my servers lagging with players on. normally 19.99tps, then becomes 12 when ppl join, then goes to 15-18. 😦 help
@wary sedge but this is serious

idk

sry

[heady birch]

😐

[wary sedge]

😦 im very sorry, just needed help

um

[heady birch]

Idk

What CPU is it running on

Clock speed

[wary sedge]

intel i7

linux mint

no gui

[quiet depot]

restart your server

[heady birch]

clock speed

[wary sedge]

idk clock speed

i did

[quiet depot]

it's been up for 70 hours

[obtuse gale]

tfw u think ur question is important enough for 6.6k people to care

[wary sedge]

restarting rn

[heady birch]

Run this

lscpu | grep MHz

[wary sedge]

pl

ty

[quiet depot]

I'm no timings expert, but looks like the problem is todo with chunks

too many loaded in memory perhaps

[wary sedge]

um

[quiet depot]

too much happening in those chunks

[wary sedge]

CPU MHz: 800.147
CPU max MHz: 4900.0000
CPU min MHz: 800.0000

lol bruh

0.8 base clock

stupid

[quiet depot]

damn that's a pretty drastic difference

[wary sedge]

computer

how do u overclock

so it stays at high mhz

[heady birch]

4.9GHz should have no problem at all

[wary sedge]

btw how to check temps

[quiet depot]

it doesn't need to be 4.9ghz all the time muffin, it'll boost when it needs to

[wary sedge]

but, why is it this???

[quiet depot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[heady birch]

Is it dedicated

[wary sedge]

yes

[hot hull]

@jovial warren Wanna cringe a bit?
https://paste.helpch.at/kasilerome.cs

[regal gale]

Maybe try remove fawe?

[quiet depot]

Why are you running linux mint for your server anyway?

[wary sedge]

idk

[heady birch]

I think you got something mad in the world

[wary sedge]

someone just told me to use it

[heady birch]

The server specs are really good

[wary sedge]

my dev

[quiet depot]

tell your dev he's a 4head

[wary sedge]

why

[regal gale]

Yep, but is that too overkill for a 1.8 server

[wary sedge]

what should i use

[hot hull]

Bardy, ignore the naming, just check the actuall code lmao

[heady birch]

Frosty,

[quiet depot]

something headless muffin

[wary sedge]

it is

tho

i only use ssh

[hot hull]

Just scroll @jovial warren

[quiet depot]

with mint tho, there's probably still a gui running

I don't think mint has a headless version

[wary sedge]

i did init 3

that works

[heady birch]

Oh

I didnt scroll down

Lol

[wary sedge]

I don't think mint has a headless version
just changed it to init 3

[quiet depot]

aight

I mean mint is fine, just an odd choice for a server

[wary sedge]

ok...

o

nice

CPU MHz: 3863.727
CPU max MHz: 4900.0000
CPU min MHz: 800.0000

xD

its back to 800

@quiet depot do you think that somehow VNCServer is lagging me?

Someone told methat

[regal gale]

Try remove FAWE, idk if it's gonna reduce anything

[heady birch]

VNCServer?

On headless

No

[wary sedge]

it works...

does use my gpu or its gpu

or also cpu

[heady birch]

I doubt its the problem

Looks like chunks or world or something

[wary sedge]

ik

ill remove fawe

then tell u

restarting rn

ok

*20 at startup is normal?

cuz all is *20

[regal gale]

It's normal

[wary sedge]

should i wait 5 min

[regal gale]

Yeah just wait for it

[wary sedge]

ok

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=40d0c93d75a34d058653454f253410cc

um

19.98

[regal gale]

I mean, you didn't wait for 5 min ._.

[wary sedge]

ik

fine

ill wit

wait

[regal gale]

I thought i told you to clear out fawe lol

[wary sedge]

o

idk

i actually removed it

i think

19.99

@regal gale

[wary sedge]

idk how

but i did it

20tps

ok

[old wyvern]

@topaz bay What type of parser did you use for odin?

[hot hull]

I really could use some bleach

[old wyvern]

😂

[errant geyser]

r/eyeblech

Disclaimer: Don't actually go there, its pretty much r/medicalgore

If you want actual eyebleach, go to r/eyebleach

[onyx loom]

just keep nesting those <> boys

[jovial warren]

I really could use some bleach
you like new to java or something? bruh

lol

that is not how to store pages

though the way my original BardyBot code did it wasn't much better

[hot hull]

Dude I'm not that fucking retarded, come on Bardy smh

I'm customizing SaberFactions for a client

[jovial warren]

yeah ik you're not that far beyond hope lol

[hot hull]

yeah ik you're not that far beyond hope lol
:what:

[heady birch]

yeah there is good import for this

org.springframework.data.domain.Pageable

[jovial warren]

I would bring up the way BardyBot used to do it but I force reset when I committed the new Spring BardyBot so that's kinda gone in to the archives lol

also anyone here used the maven publish plugin?

[onyx loom]

lmao frosty

u got shit on for no reason 😂

[remote goblet]

https://github.com/Ruinscraft/Panilla/tree/master/bukkit/src/main/java/com/ruinscraft/panilla/bukkit

[errant geyser]

@ocean quartz you have 3 awards and 15.5k updoots man

That's mental

[ocean quartz]

Ikr!
Didn't expect that much xD

[jovial warren]

wait what?

[onyx loom]

oh shit

u got awards

nice

[jovial warren]

wait awards?

where?

[onyx loom]

reddit

matts post

with the minecraft tv shit

[distant sun]

"Shit"

[steel heart]

Is this name legal?

[distant sun]

No

[topaz bay]

@old wyvern define type of parser

[old wyvern]

I mean the parsing algorithmn

like LALR(1) LR(0) ...ect

Or maybe im overcomplicating this

[topaz bay]

I have absolutely 0 idea

My parser is written by hand, using logic that makes sense to me

[old wyvern]

ah

[topaz bay]

There is no formal grammar

[old wyvern]

I see

[topaz bay]

https://github.com/Sxtanna/odin/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/com/sxtanna/odin/compile/Lexer.kt
https://github.com/Sxtanna/odin/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/com/sxtanna/odin/compile/Typer.kt

The only thing thats similar to a grammar that I use are the collapses and expanders

[old wyvern]

Expanders are like to expand ++ += and stuff right?

[topaz bay]

Both the lexer and typer run multiple passes over the data they create

yes

[old wyvern]

What about collapses?

[topaz bay]

I also use an expander to process string interpolation

collapses are there to make lexing simpler

instead of writing all the code to process something like ++ into a single operator, I have the lexer process + and + as single operators on the first pass

And then they get collapsed if there is nothing in between them on the second one

And only if they follow a targetable token

like a name

[old wyvern]

ahhhhh I see

The commands handle the state changing right?

[topaz bay]

the commands are leaves of the AST

[old wyvern]

Alrighty time to give this a shot 😂

[topaz bay]

enjoy hell sweetie

[old wyvern]

welp ☠️

[topaz bay]

just sayin

lol

[old wyvern]

got to try atleast

https://github.com/Vshnv/DjinnLang

Imma figure out the runtime first so I can have a the parser w.r.t to that

[hollow spade]

do i get help with my plugin in #development or here?

[obtuse gale]

#development

[cerulean idol]

this tbh

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave

tsk tsk

So much potential

THROWN AWAY

https://github.com/duckduckgo/Android

[topaz bay]

I added casting to Odin

cause why not

[onyx loom]

wow i am SO proud of you !!!

congrats !!!

[onyx loom]

@topaz bay o

[heady birch]

Make it compile to byte code

[hot hull]

I stg this man has never heard of liskov

[topaz bay]

@onyx loom yikes

@heady birch no

[regal gale]

How is she never been banned on Twitch btw

[onyx loom]

yeah idk

probably because shes a woman kekW

[hot hull]

@onyx loom Oh crap

[onyx loom]

wait....

why 🙁

[hot hull]

idk

[onyx loom]

😭

banned for no reason

[heady birch]

what server

[hot hull]

No server

[hot hull]

@onyx loom yw

[onyx loom]

thanks 😁

[regal gale]

Add a ban to Frcsty13 pls

[hot hull]

Who's that?

[topaz bay]

https://github.com/emeryferrari/jse3d/blob/master/src/com/emeryferrari/jse3d/Display.java#L83

This is why we use kotlin

[obtuse gale]

oof

[errant geyser]

There is 1111 lines of that aids

[topaz bay]

my parser is nearly 2000 lines

[onyx loom]

congrats

75 to go

[topaz bay]

Isn't it lovely

[hot hull]

You failed a test, so no

[topaz bay]

well its not implemented, so yeah

lol

[heady birch]

trait

real world the problem

interview:

"What are your traits?"

"Named"

• step back and let that sink in

[prisma wave]

fun fact, frigga causes a stackoverflow when trying to calculate fib(anything more than 4) because there are so many steps involved in function calling 😎

[heady birch]

implement multithreaded floating point calcualtions 🙂