would the order matter in that?
#dev-general
distant sun
orrrr, use Pair<Integer, Integer> xd
heady birch
or Friendship<A, B> from niallLib
distant sun
niallLib
The three L's of death
heady birch
what happened to /papi parse me?
hot hull
I was thinking of having a custom chunk object which would be stored in a set, (containing the collector object)
distant sun
array[0] / array[1]
old wyvern
what if you have just the hashcode after saving
distant sun
saving to file?
hot hull
Btw, I assume saving the data as json would be cleaner right?
old wyvern
I just thought cantor was the way to go since its a reversible function
old wyvern
I mean what all are you saving?
old wyvern
sqllite maybe?
hot hull
Is a db really worth it since it's only to persist restarts?
old wyvern
How many itemstacks are we talking about?
old wyvern
Do you need all of them loaded at the same time always?
heady birch
I will seriosuly make NiallLib
i am scared of no man
but that thing NiallLib it scares me
old wyvern
Nia666ib
heady birch
☠️
hot hull
You've got 3 L's in it, so you should be scared
old wyvern
heady birch
hehe
prisma wave
NiallLib should never see the light of day
@heady birch i don't really get what your idea is supposed to achieve
old wyvern
What is the idea?
prisma wave
prisma wave
Hopefully nothing
heady birch
!!!
@prisma wave Let me explain
so KiteBoard would have its AnimationService
my placeholder api expansion would have its own as well
but
If two are running on the same server, they should share one
so external plugins interacting the AnimationService that is shared between both plugins
frigid badge
why can your expansion not use kiteboard's?
frigid badge
it's a seperate expansion from the plugin
like not revolving around placeholders for kiteboard?
heady birch
yeah
frigid badge
ah alright
frigid badge
but why do you want them to share the same animation service
like what would matter
it's animations
heady birch
third party plugins registering an animation
it would work in everything using the animation service
frigid badge
just have a plugin for it then I guess.
hot hull
^ Would make more sense
heady birch
hehe
frigid badge
just like papi
heady birch
I could make a plugin within papi
frigid badge
or vault
heady birch
it would be a vault kind of thing
frigid badge
I could make a plugin within papi
don't
heady birch
😂
old wyvern
I still dont understand what you are tryin to solve
heady birch
nevermind
my goals are beyond your understanding
I will make a diagram
But yeah, their is absolutley no way it would work without a seperate plugin
Well
Im not going to share that idea...
ocean quartz
@frigid badge Thank you, I'll look into it
docker scares me, i need to actually learn this stuff xD
remote goblet
i'm back to doing data managers 
frigid badge
docker isn't that hard to be fair
just requires a bit of reading
and understanding the concept
old wyvern
@heady birch cant you just
public static void tryRegister(Plugin pl) {
ServicesManager servicesManager = Bukkit.getServicesManager();
if(!servicesManager.isProvidedFor(TestService.class)) {
servicesManager.register(TestService.class,new TestService(), pl, ServicePriority.High);
}
}```I think he mentioned its supposed to be the same
frigid badge
how will he make it exactly the same if it's different plugins
old wyvern
He just has the same class with the same package in there
frigid badge
he could make a library
old wyvern
Yea
frigid badge
which registers itself
old wyvern
Yea and shade it
heady birch
Yeah I was thinking that
But if the library is shaded into two plugins wouldn't it crash?
Since they have the same fully qualified class name
Nial you can just have it shaded into all your plugins, only one of them with the same fully-qualified class name is loaded
@old wyvern Do you know how it determines which one? probably based on the plugin load order
old wyvern
I guess yea, updating that service is going to be insanely weird and you may find situations where different plugins use difference versions of the service
You should probably have a separate plugin to handle that, that would be the cleanest possible way I guess
or hmm
frigid badge
I mean you can just check if the registered version is lower than yours
then unregister it and register yourself
but I'd still recommend a seperate plugin lol
frigid badge
I mean you could try fiddling with it
heady birch
but then.. I wonder what happens if you made two interfaces (same qualified name) but with different methods?
frigid badge
no such method
heady birch
[22:29:10 INFO]: [PluginTwo] Enabling PluginTwo v1.1
[22:29:10 INFO]: AnimationsService provided by: PluginTwo
[22:29:10 INFO]: [PluginOne] Enabling PluginOne v1.0
[22:29:10 INFO]: AnimationsService provided by: PluginTwo
onyx loom
👀
heady birch
Well.. it worked 😄
grizzled crest
is there a plugin that makes an npc, and when click on it, it redirects you to another server ip, without bungeecord?
grizzled crest
why is it impossible?\
onyx loom
connecting to a different server is handled by the client, not the server
prisma wave
Well kind of
The Minecraft client has no support for changing server without an explicit disconnect
Bungee acts as a proxy so it can send and receive packets from the server they are currently connected to
Without bungee, it's a direct connection to the server. You can't change that without explicitly terminating the connection and making a new one
grizzled crest
can someone make me a bungeecord server? i have the lobby server, the kitpvp server, and the survival server. i just need help putting it all together
grizzled crest
how do you do it with bukkit?
onyx loom
BUKKIT??????
grizzled crest
ye
onyx loom
lol.
grizzled crest
what
grizzled crest
ok
onyx loom
big yikes
grizzled crest
:/
eternal mica
opinions?
grizzled crest
guys, i need a couple more ports to open, but they wont
i have 25565
25566
open
i need 15567
i mean 25567
eternal mica
ok?
grizzled crest
and 25568
and on my router
it says there both port forwarded
but when i check
there noti
grizzled crest
why?
eternal mica
- Why would you host this on your computer
grizzled crest
its on my other one
eternal mica
Because you just need to port forward the main proxy’s ip (25565)
eternal mica
Okay why don’t you use a host?
grizzled crest
what do you reccomend?
eternal mica
I don’t own a server
grizzled crest
oof
eternal mica
I just program
grizzled crest
ok
lunar cypress
I just got a vps from contabo, they seem to be pretty good
eternal mica
Don’t use vps’s for Minecraft hosting 🤦
grizzled crest
yeah
eternal mica
they're*
lunar cypress
But yeah I didn't really read what this was about, any particular reason why you shouldn't use a vps for a minecraft server?
eternal mica
Yeah
lunar cypress
...mind elaborating on it?
Serious question, I'm not very knowledgable in that area
prisma wave
I would imagine just because you're sharing resources
so could potentially have lag
hosting a big network on a VPS would be dumb
a small server, fine imo
lunar cypress
Yeah that's for sure, for a small network your budget wouldn't be as low anyway I suppose
Big*
Damn it's late
eternal mica
You might run in IO read and write bottlenecks
(if you have multiple servers all writing data to the disk. yoou might notice a slight delay)
onyx loom
i would personally recommend https://helpch.at/host
eternal mica
Idk if that’s a troll
topaz bay
@ocean quartz ayudame
ocean quartz
What's up?
topaz bay
Why does reflection have to be so fucking slow
ocean quartz
Ikr
What are you doing?
quiet depot
reflective lookups
topaz bay
quiet depot
o
topaz bay
I can either have the type resolve the functions, or the evaluator resolve it
Simply adding that single line clazz.kotlin.members
takes 5 fucking. hundred. milliseconds.
ocean quartz
Oh wow, why is it Kotlin's so much slower?
topaz bay
Its probably all of the mapping
all functions have to be mapped to kcallable, all the types have to be resolved and converted
kinda poop, wish it were lazy
worthy minnow
How much would it cost to pay someone to make a full basic text adventure game?
obtuse gale
Text adventure?
worthy minnow
Text adventure
obtuse gale
I mean, what is that
worthy minnow
Like imagine old school DnD on a computer
Where people just played through text on brick computers
Basically just a game where there's only text
worthy minnow
Yeah
obtuse gale
And your desired programming language is?
worthy minnow
Python
onyx loom
i swear pascal is so old now
quiet depot
@obtuse gale pascal > python
onyx loom
kotlin >>>
onyx loom
😂
worthy minnow
i can do up to $100 worth of sexual favours
as long as those favours are limited to foot rubs
obtuse gale
@quiet depot based on the popularity, Py is the most common used up until now than pascal 
quiet depot
popularity doesn't mean anything
it's popular because it's "easy" to learn (there's easier languages, cough lua, however python is too mainstream now)
that's the only thing python has going for it
everything else about the language is bad
it's slow, and terribly designed
on a scale of terrible design choices, I'd say python is on par with javascript
hah, javascript is also an extremely popular language
what's with all these terrible languages being so popular
I should probably say that I've never actually used pascal, I just did a quick google search for some samples (hello world, etc), along with some brief paradigm research, and concluded that pascal is better than python.
hot hull
Time to start a productive day of jumping out the window
old wyvern
lmao
quiet depot
that's an interesting way of being productive
obtuse gale
Maybe
hot hull
Yugi, about that topic, CollectorChunk should be a formidable name ye?
hot hull
Yus
obtuse gale
hot hull
Basically a chunk hopper
obtuse gale
Just realized that
old wyvern
yea that should be fine frost
obtuse gale
Only 20?
compact perchBOT
hot hull
Yes big poopo with a 5 star
hot hull
wdym, I did?
hot hull
:))
pallid gale
hot hull
Now all we gotta do is convince Gian to switch from DeluxeJoin to FJ
heady birch
quiet depot
u should let me implement guice into fj @hot hull
heady birch
Managed to get this to work.. now is it worth implementing it
My animations are used in 3 active projects currently, 1 requires a little modification
I mean it makes sense to make it a separate library doesnt it?
quiet depot
yes
hot hull
Seems eh, just more to maintain I guess
topaz bay
fuck you gaby
Dont laugh at him
The lexer first has to collapse the individual tokens cur,+,+ into cur,++
Then the parser expands that into (, cur, =, cur, +, 1, )
Which it then parses normally
I had to change the lexer and parser to use multi-pass evaluation
They both do 2 passes
quiet depot
it just doesn't look that hard tho
print("Lexing took: 41.2ms")
print("Typing took: 20.7ms")
for i = 1,10 do
print(i)
end
print("Evaluation took: 7.39ms")```
seeez
ur just overthinking it sx
topaz bay
youre ugly
quiet depot
lol
heady birch
public interface AnimationService {
List<String> setAnimations(final List<String> text, final Player player);
List<String> setAnimations(final String text, final Player player);
void registerAnimation(final Animation animation);
boolean isDynamic(final List<String> text);
boolean isDynamic(final String text);
Animation getAnimationByName(final String name);
Collection<Animation> getAnimations();
static AnimationService getInstance(final Plugin plugin) {
AnimationService animationService = Bukkit.getServicesManager().load(AnimationService.class);
if (animationService != null) {
animationService = Bukkit.getServicesManager().load(AnimationService.class);
} else {
animationService = new AnimationManager();
Bukkit.getServicesManager()
.register(AnimationService.class, animationService, plugin, ServicePriority.Low);
}
return animationService;
}
}```do you approve my getInstance
obtuse gale
smh
old wyvern
Our uni sent us a mail to attend coursera for open electives 💀
obtuse gale
Null in kotlin sure does is sensitive, isn't it?
heady birch
Should I include the papi expansion as a library
Or make the library, then papi expansion depends on that
frigid badge
you always come with the oddest questions
prisma wave
@topaz bay that sounds painful
obtuse gale
whats poppin logangsters
waxen marsh
wassup boi
obtuse gale
my teacher told me ive gotta make my website work on mobile and its due tommorow so imma just half ass it and if they are on mobile they get redirected to a site that says they cant access it lol
waxen marsh
YIKES
i wish i knew enough HTML to help you lol
Just starting to learn website developnment next year
obtuse gale
oh its not fun
waxen marsh
Dudeeee but can you imagine gathering with ya homies and making a website
lmfao
also, im gonna be learning c#, HTML, CSS, JS AND Assembly... yay...
obtuse gale
lucky
frigid badge
assembly is useful purely for understanding concepts
frontend web is hell @waxen marsh
you'll regret it
obtuse gale
^^
errant geyser
Frontend is nice imo
Ries you're lucky to learn all those languages through your school. They started us off on python and then just kind of left us, so I had to self teach python, java, html, can you call CSS a language?
Assembly looks cool but apparently is a pain in the ass to use
signal tinsel
Frontend bores me
Something that interests me is databases
And algorithms
Shit u no get in frontend
onyx loom
databases?
signal tinsel
Yes
obtuse gale
base for data
signal tinsel
Data storage
onyx loom
intrigue me on why they interest u
signal tinsel
Idk
It just does
Nah
How yo store billions of records in a scalable and efficient manner
Thats what interests me
onyx loom
k
errant geyser
Don't get me wrong, I prefer backend
But I don't get why everyone shits on frontend
signal tinsel
Ok so I won a year of free web hosting
With redis and mysql databases
Gimme suggestions on shitty shit to host on there
frail glade
signal tinsel
Nah
Idc bout a helpchat knockoff lmao
Idijot
Maybe mess around with xenforo again lmao
hot hull
Hey! atleast you aren't in the negatives!
onyx loom
!!!
rotund egret
$600/month for candles
topaz bay
@prisma wave it was
But I'm actually quite excited about this addition
It means I can collapse and expand any construct into whatever I want
remote goblet
@topaz bay Wanna see some beautiful arrow code 
prisma wave
congrats
topaz bay
@remote goblet why do I care
heady birch
Wanna talk about performance
remote goblet
@topaz bay because you're done being petty about that and i wanna torture you with it :)
heady birch
👍 Good work
remote goblet
https://paste.helpch.at/xegazegiru.java i'll put it here just incase
prisma wave
That's not bad considering
topaz bay
=paste
compact perchBOT
heady birch
It render in under 500MS on a raspberry pi
Like 250ms
Not the feat of engineering I wanted
The one I needed
solemn monolith
I'm getting: Cannot read property 'react' of undefined, but I don't really know why?```js
async function messagePrompt(message, author, time, reactions) {
time *= 1000;
for (const reaction of reactions) {
await message.react(reaction);
}
const filter = (reaction, user) => reactions.includes(reaction.emoji.name) && user.id === author.id;
return message.awaitReactions(filter, { max: 1, time: time }).then(collected => collected.first() && collected.first().emoji.name);
}
I would guess it's because message is undefined
ocean quartz
Blame it on JS
prisma wave
imagine not having compile time undefined checking
ocean quartz
Imagine not having compile time at all
hot hull
😮
hot hull
How do I loop through a directory?
prisma wave
File#listFiles
ocean quartz
for (files in directory) ez
hot hull
eh what? I'm already checking if the dir exists, and if it's length is 0
prisma wave
listFiles can return null
hot hull
ah okay
topaz bay
empty would imply its an empty directory
it returns null when its not a directory
Would be great if it was a result, cause ya know...
BETTER
ocean quartz
Well then dir should be null, not the listFiles
ocean quartz
That's fair yeah, though it'd make more sense to have a directory type
topaz bay
That would be kinda messy though
hot hull
file.getName().split(".")[0].split(";");
The [0] is throwing an NPE, the file name being -16;27.yml
prisma wave
you'd need an abstraction either way
topaz bay
its regex right?
prisma wave
what would listFiles() return for example? File? Directory? or an abstraction of the 2
ocean quartz
That is a pretty bad name for a file Frosty xD
hot hull
It's chunk coords Matt
topaz bay
@prisma wave well it would only be defined on directory?
hot hull
ocean quartz
And good point yeah, it'd be quite messy
topaz bay
@hot hull use kotlin
hot hull
No
prisma wave
wdym @topaz bay
onyx loom
@hot hull use kotlin
prisma wave
@hot hull use kotlin
topaz bay
@prisma wave list files wouldnt be abstract
prisma wave
peer pressure
flawless
oh I see what you mean
but I mean
what would it return
given that a directory can contain both files and directories
hot hull
So anyone got any clue as to why it's throwing an NPE?
topaz bay
If file and directory were implementations of some type, you would have file specific things on file, and directory specific things on directory
It would contain the abstract type?
ocean quartz
Frosty use common's getNameWithoutExtension
prisma wave
so you'd still need an abstraction which was my point
prisma wave
making a specific Directory class wouldn't achieve much as most of the time you'd just use the abstraction
I was mainly saying that to Matt
hot hull
uh what Matt
topaz bay
You could also just like name.substring(0, name.lastIndexOf(".")).split(";")
prisma wave
ew
topaz bay
Or in kotlin, name.substringBeforeLast(".")
prisma wave
😍
onyx loom
this is why kotlin is the greatest @hot hull
ocean quartz
The lib com.google.common.io.Files hsa the getNameWithoutExtension to remove the extension, then you can split by ; but Sx's solution is better
kotlin would be even better though
prisma wave
haskell is best
topaz bay
Its kind of crazy how our brains just file away literally hundreds of thousands of things
hot hull
Not trynna convert 7 plugins to kotlin, so nty
onyx loom
y not
ocean quartz
You don't need to convert anything
hot hull
:what:
ocean quartz
You can have Java classes mixed with Kotlin
hot hull
And like 1.5mb higher jar size ye? :p
prisma wave
well that's why you convert everything
ocean quartz
1.3 ;p
prisma wave
but you have the option
topaz bay
youre complaining about jar size when youre merging 7 plugins?
hot hull
:kek:
topaz bay
pea. brain.
onyx loom
what goes on in that pea brain of yours?
prisma wave
+1.3mb won't hurt
onyx loom
imagine caring about file size
hot hull
Anyone got any suggestions as to how I could increase performance on this? (Well if there's anything that should be done differently)
public void run() {
final CollectorStorage storage = plugin.getCollectorStorage();
new BukkitRunnable() {
@Override
public void run() {
for (Chunk chunk : storage.getCollectorChunks().keySet()) {
final CollectorChunk collectorChunk = storage.getCollectorChunk(chunk);
for (Entity entity : chunk.getEntities()) {
if (entity instanceof Item) {
final ItemStack item = ((Item) entity).getItemStack();
if (!collectorChunk.getValidMaterials().contains(item.getType())) {
continue;
}
collectorChunk.addMaterial(item.getType(), item.getAmount());
entity.remove();
}
}
storage.updateCollectorChunk(chunk, collectorChunk);
}
}
}.runTaskTimer(core, 1, 5);
}
Why in gods name would you iterate over the keyset and do a lookup, instead of iterating over the entryset
hot hull
Anything else?
ocean quartz
Kinda same for Kotlin and Java
onyx loom
very true
topaz bay
extremely true
hot hull
Sx, anything else, or is that all?
(also changed it to forEach, since that made more sense)
topaz bay
@hot hull theres nothing else I see from that single snippet
hot hull
Only that snippet that I need to know for :p
topaz bay
does chunk not have a method for getting specific entity types?
like world does?
If not, I would say to invert that instanceof check
because gross
hot hull
public void run() {
final CollectorStorage storage = plugin.getCollectorStorage();
new BukkitRunnable() {
@Override
public void run() {
storage.getCollectorChunks().forEach((chunk, collectorChunk) -> {
for (Entity entity : chunk.getEntities()) {
if (!(entity instanceof Item)) {
continue;
}
final ItemStack item = ((Item) entity).getItemStack();
if (!collectorChunk.getValidMaterials().contains(item.getType())) {
continue;
}
collectorChunk.addMaterial(item.getType(), item.getAmount());
entity.remove();
}
storage.updateCollectorChunk(chunk, collectorChunk);
});
}
}.runTaskTimer(core, 1, 5);
}
This is the refurbished one
topaz bay
does collectorchunk not hold a reference to it's chunk?
hot hull
No since that'd be meh, cause I can just get the collector from the player's chunk
Also, oof only
topaz bay
@hot hull weak shit
hot hull
No u
onyx loom
DarkReader
hot hull
ew no
onyx loom
???????
errant geyser
I already use the Stylish dark theme for GH
topaz bay
gross
topaz bay
@prisma wave what should I add to odin?
prisma wave
hmm
hot hull
a terminate system method
prisma wave
what's the paradigms of it?
topaz bay
with my new collapse and expand
hot hull
Which wipes everything :))
topaz bay
I can do string interpolation
topaz bay
absolutely fucking not
topaz bay
The thing is, these words directly define whats happening
collapse is transforming many tokens into one
and expand is transforming maybe 1 or 2, into many tokens
topaz bay
shut up yugi
tall yacht
Not sure where to actually ask but this will do.
I'm editing the "online members" XenForo template to change the check to see if a user is marked as a staff member to see if they inherit a secondary group instead. Purely doing this so I don't have to go and mark every staff member as a staff member and just have their ranks automatically sync. I just have no clue about the XF syntax.
The following statement checks to see if a member is a staff member. I want to change this to check if a member inherits one of the staff groups as a secondary group.
<xf:if is="$user.is_staff">```
Not sure how many XenForo users there are in here, but worth a shot. Any help would be massively appreciated!Hey guys i have a question, i try to block all bungeecord related commands on a specific server. And it works for everything to block commands except bungeecord commands like server command is not getting blocked. anyone know a fix
prisma wave
You need to process those on the bungee side
Spigot doesn't even know bungeecord commands exist
prisma wave
😬
topaz bay
regex is so crazy
simply collapsing those two groups into one
reduces the matcher steps, from 100+ to 36
old wyvern
Hello world in piet 👀
topaz bay
@prisma wave just realized
I'm going to have to lex
each interpolation
individually
topaz bay
The lexer and typer dont hold state
theyre objects
fucking
I hate this bot
well that was easy
And since its an expression in {}, stuff like that works
frigga could honestly fucking never
be real
come onnnnn dude
thats fucking HOT
onyx loom
👏
obtuse gale
If anyones bored and up for a quick code review, some ways I can improve this unfinished project would be appreciated (My coding sucks lol there probably is loads) 🙂
https://github.com/Aj3douglas/AJ-Bedwars
quiet depot
obtuse gale
how?
quiet depot
you're creating files, registering commands, printing shit to console, in your program's entry point
that's a whole lot of irrelevant
obtuse gale
should I have like a file manager class?
quiet depot
yes
obtuse gale
How about for the commands?
quiet depot
redundant, private val gson = Gson();
gson can also be constant so keep that in mind
yes for commands
LocationUtils.from(int, int, int)
that pattern might not apply in kotlin, not sure, but I highly doubt a data class is the best option for what you're doing there
obtuse gale
Its so gson can understand it
quiet depot
oh
https://github.com/Aj3douglas/AJ-Bedwars/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/org/aj3douglas/ajbedwars/core/Generator.kt use a field naming policy in your gson builder instead of all these serialized name annotations
GsonBuilder#setFieldNamingPolicy(FieldNamingPolicy.LOWER_CASE_WITH_UNDERSCORES)
https://github.com/Aj3douglas/AJ-Bedwars/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/org/aj3douglas/ajbedwars/core/StoreEntityManager.kt "fuck" generally isn't considered to be a descriptive debugging message, unless it's an acronym for something?
obtuse gale
lol its just temp
That being said I think its quite descriptive
Really gets your point accross
patent spoke
Gson 🤢
quiet depot
what's wrong with gson?
patent spoke
Well
it's way less understandable than Json.simple for me
I mean
Json.simple is efficient
By the way PiggyPiglet, are you the dev of @compact perch ?
quiet depot
no
gson is so much more than simple json parsing (which is what json-simple provides)
patent spoke
Hmm
quiet depot
gson isn't limited to just json, albeit that's it's main purpose
it's a fully functional object mapper, an extremely configurable one at that
patent spoke
I'll try it in a different way next time
I really would like to know what Library they used to write informations on an image
for the =rank command
quiet depot
barry is written in nodejs, he uses canvas for the images
patent spoke
I see, thanks for the information :o
patent spoke
I literally have the same registerListener() and setupCommands() methods
heady birch
4.86 ms 😮
obtuse gale
Main class looks neat now lol
😮
just realised I named my gson object gsonBuilder as well but shush
quiet depot
@obtuse gale this is jus a whole bunch of irrelevant
prisma wave
Until you fix the spacing it's trash
obtuse gale
I was doing plugin.fileManager.wahtever.stuff, i should probably do that stuff in my file manager class now right?
prisma wave
DI
obtuse gale
im using DI to pass my plugin instnace round
quiet depot
that should be the last thing you need to pass around
prisma wave
^
hot hull
Are you happy Piggy?
private final Map<String, ConfigurationSection> sections = new HashMap<>();
public void load(final DistrictCore core) {
final FileConfiguration config = core.getConfig();
for (String sectionString : config.getDefaultSection().getKeys(false)) {
if (sectionString.equalsIgnoreCase("messages")) continue;
sections.put(sectionString, config.getConfigurationSection(sectionString));
}
}
public ConfigurationSection getSection(final String key) {
return sections.get(key);
}
Pass whatever you need around, rather than coupling with the plugin
obtuse gale
why?
prisma wave
Injecting your plugin creates tight coupling
quiet depot
the only time you ever need an instance of your main, is for bukkit functions that specifically ask for it. That's basically just the scheduler
obtuse gale
ah
alright
I was doing plugin.fileManager.wahtever.stuff, i should probably do that stuff in my file manager class now right?
quiet depot
if you're using your main for anything else, there's a 99% chance you're violating srp
yes aj
there should be no plugin prefix
fileManager.whatever.stuff
not plugin.fileManager.whatever.stuff
obtuse gale
yeah but like
hot hull
So Piggy, good enough or?
obtuse gale
I was doing this in my generators class, i should probably move this method to the file manager
quiet depot
@hot hull no, I think you've completely missed the point
hot hull
Why?
prisma wave
I would have that function take a JSON string
Rather than caring where the JSON is coming from
quiet depot
and consider making that type a constant, so it doesn't have to use reflection every time
prisma wave
Mostly the lack of a space after a :
quiet depot
there is a space after it
prisma wave
In the function signature I mean
quiet depot
oh we're looking at different colons
prisma wave
Yeah
trim hare
couple of proctologists here?
hot hull
Piggy, remove all accessing of config during runtime
obtuse gale
So if i wanna use like saveResource() in my manager class I would still pass through the main class right??
prisma wave
Yes and no
Iirc saveResource is protected
So you'll either have to do it in your main class, or copy it manually (it's a 1 liner in kotlin)
prisma wave
Nvm
obtuse gale
just pass my main through?
prisma wave
have your file manager take a JavaPlugin I'd say
Sounds a bit petty but you never know
obtuse gale
why javaplugin specifically
prisma wave
Reusability
quiet depot
lsp
prisma wave
^
hot hull
Internet service provider?
quiet depot
liskov subtitution principle
Piggy, remove all accessing of config during runtime
@hot hull ah ok
hot hull
ew why you use lower capital L then
quiet depot
consider doing object mapping instead
prisma wave
Was Liskov a person?
quiet depot
yes
prisma wave
Huh
quiet depot
"robert" comes to my mind, but that's the guy who compiled the principles, not necessarily authored LSP in particular
prisma wave
the first person to get annoyed at public HashMap<Player, Int> myMap = ew HashMap<>();
quiet depot
prisma wave
Huh
hot hull
1987 kek
quiet depot
robbie
prisma wave
Older than I imagined
prisma wave
Probably
I'm completely guessing but I imagine that's when higher level typed coding really started to kick off
quiet depot
perhaps
trim hare
That's true, since we're talking about subtypes
hot hull
Piggy, that's effort
quiet depot
it's actually not
hot hull
Would there be a benefit?
hot hull
I mean this is fairly clean
quiet depot
not imo
heady birch
I wanna know why the Enginehub repo has the whole of JideSoft on it
I dont think the license permits that..
hot hull
quiet depot
jidesoft?
hot hull
Reloading the plugin should be done async ye?
quiet depot
as async as possible
hot hull
reloading a config?
quiet depot
async
hot hull
remapping a map?
hot hull
In theory there shouldn't be any
prisma wave
Better safe than sorry
hot hull
true true
prisma wave
The synchronization overhead is pretty small
heady birch
How do you setup a simple maven repo?
quiet depot
no such thing
prisma wave
I use Nexus
heady birch
Kind of just looks like a web server
quiet depot
it uses tomcat iirc
trim hare
I got tired of bothering with nexus, so I'm trying something called CloudRepo.io
It's free if you're hosting open source projects
quiet depot
codemc.io is also an option for mc projects
avoid jitpack at all costs
ah ok
@heady birch it uses jetty
prisma wave
Jitpack isn't that bad
quiet depot
it's aweful
prisma wave
Just the dependency declarations are ugly
trim hare
yeah I tried that, it's pretty convoluted
quiet depot
it's actually hilarious
heady birch
😫
quiet depot
how a company completed devoted to open source, could mess up something like that so badly
prisma wave
I guess they were trying to make it language agnostic
and ended up overcomplicating everything
quiet depot
idk about that
my problem with it is that it requires authentication
you can't access a github package publicly
which is a terrible idea
prisma wave
Oh yeah that's stupid too
heady birch
Now lets see if this works
quiet depot
account's make sense for private projects
for public though? it's not just a hassle, it's literally not worth it
trim hare
Strange that you don't need an account to clone a repo, but they didn't do something similar with packages
prisma wave
Blame Microsoft
quiet depot
microsoft has no influence on that
I believe it was just a major oversight on their behalf, perhaps their team is a bit out touch with how things work
prisma wave
Idk... Actions come about shortly after Microsoft purchase GitHub. Coincidence?
quiet depot
no, it was most certainly funded by microsoft, suggested by microsoft, but the final implementation was entirely up to the github team
trim hare
Probably just based off their own integrations and tools they were already using?
quiet depot
perhaps
prisma wave
The conspiracy theorist in me says that they intentionally made it bad to sell more Azure machines
prisma wave
2002 lookin logo
quiet depot
is there an alternative to jide niall?
hot hull
I'm confused, for some reason my messages keyword got replaced with configurations
:what:
heady birch
I never did cos I assumed their company died like 10 years ago
But they are still posting updates
But yeah- each product is about 200$
hot hull
How would you rate organisation on this? @quiet depot
quiet depot
i'd give it an eh out of meh
heady birch
commands and config maybe in a common module
hot hull
Niall, it's the plugins name
hot hull
Otherwise it wouldn't be plural
quiet depot
I believe plural is better there
hot hull
Now I wanna make a system which allows me to register the command within it's own class
But not sure how I'd approach that
heady birch
why should a command register itself
hot hull
Maybe it shouldn't
errant geyser
Remember when I tried to do that for Events and got shat on for SOLID
Probably shouldn't try it
heady birch
NiallLIB
errant geyser
How long have you been working on that?
heady birch
I havnt started yet
hot hull
:kek:
quiet depot
@hot hull it's super ez
hot hull
See but is it smart tho?
errant geyser
👀
hot hull
Can I get a verbal example of how I should approach it?
quiet depot
most people use classpath scanning, which involves molesting the classloader to see what classes it has cached, iterating through them, and finding ones that smell nice
however that's quite yucky
I use a more legal way
hot hull
Also, imagine actually having null checks, pfft what's that? https://paste.helpch.at/voducopaqa.cs
quiet depot
which is essentially just recursing through the jar (look into a jarinputstream/zipinputstream), getting all the files in a particular package, and loading them through the classloader
prisma wave
"molesting the classloader" 👀
hot hull
Okay yea not trynna use classpathscanning
hot hull
seems like effort
quiet depot
it's not lol
hot hull
Any benefits, or just "easier" registration
quiet depot
idk inflated ego ig
hot hull
kek
heady birch
N<String> string = new N<>("Hello");
Friends<String, String> friends = string.friend(new N<>("Friend"));
System.out.println(friends.getone()); System.out.println(friends.getSecond());
NiallLib
Replacement for Pair<>
quiet depot
uh
why not just use Either
it's bundled in spigot
just add the datafixerupper dep
prisma wave
Add kotlin support and I'll use it
heady birch
Can you guys help me make a decision
prisma wave
Absolutely
obtuse gale
not
heady birch
So I got my animations stuff
prisma wave
D:
heady birch
Used in kiteboard, papi expansion, and holographic extension
It would make sense to make it a seperate project and import it into maven on all three right?
heady birch
Yeah
quiet depot
I don't know what's so special about it
heady birch
Each plugin has the animations shaded in
quiet depot
oh and it automatically detects that another plugin has it?
hot hull
Piggy btw, currently I've got this which I implement in every plugin, how can I make it so that both methods aren't required since some plugins don't use a onDisable
public interface CorePlugin {
void onEnable();
void onDisable();
}
abstract
quiet depot
default void onDisable() {}
heady birch
🙄
hot hull
Danke
quiet depot
@heady birch interface, abstract, they're not really a replacement for each other
very different uses
heady birch
I guess
Who knows how I can quickly query thousands of shapes in a geospatial context within a certain area
Spatial index?
dusky drum
anyone here ever worked with jfrog?
heady birch
...funny you mention that
dusky drum
why,
heady birch
I was just looking at Artifactory, but no I havnt worked with it
hot hull
Then change them to the right ones <o/
topaz bay
@obtuse gale not good
There needs to be spaces around this
This has 0 ordering logic
You usually want to separate public and non public declarations
And then sort the order by at least something
maybe lexicographic, maybe name length
This entire class has no use
And in a general sense, util classes should not hold state
obtuse gale
wdym
topaz bay
This is kotlin
obtuse gale
great observation
topaz bay
?
obtuse gale
this is kotlin
topaz bay
So whyd you ask "wdym"?
hot hull
oi, fancy message
topaz bay
You dont do that by holding state in a util class
A util class that shouldnt even exist
obtuse gale
where should i put said variable hten lol
topaz bay
Why do you need a variable for this?