a jizz of mayonaise
#dev-general
rotund egret
Yes
quiet depot
there’s no other word that perfectly describes the amount of mayonnaise, except “jizz”
rotund egret
I prefer homemade mayonnaise
topaz bay
I love this fucking channel now
errant geyser
.-.
distant sun
tikthot
obtuse gale
intense chair squeaking
hot hull
I could use recommendations for a 1.8 bot (testing purpouses)
hot hull
Shut up
obtuse gale
youve changed
hot hull
money is money ;C
heady birch
I am ceo of anti bots
obtuse gale
am i the only one thats started spelling intelligent like Intellijent?
heady birch
lol
errant geyser
Yeah
hot hull
<insert knowledge stonks>
keen schooner
oh okay thanks
jovial warren
afternoon all
onyx loom
afternoon
pallid gale
fite me
jovial warren
buy me a cheap flight to australia and I will
pallid gale
border is closed <o/
hot hull
Why not?
jovial warren
JetBrains >
pallid gale
I don't want to wait 10 years just for it to start
jovial warren
lol
pallid gale
vsc is snappy
jovial warren
I'd be surprised if VSC had linux support
and now I'm surprised
probably in the AUR
wait hold on, it's open-source?
this is Microsoft we're talking about here
Microsoft open-source software? now those are some words that I'd not expect to go together
well I guess I'm a bit biased since JetBrains is part of the GSDP and gives you pretty much all their products free of charge while you're a student
(GSDP = GitHub Student Developer Pack, https://education.github.com/pack)
prisma wave
vscode is really nice
pallid gale
I did actually try webstorm
jovial warren
never used it, couldn't really get on with it that much (VS)
pallid gale
but preferred vsc
frail glade
I like VSC too for web stuff.
obtuse gale
how does the github student dev pack work?
prisma wave
It's quite nice
obtuse gale
Does it just give you free shit?
obtuse gale
oo
obtuse gale
any requirements other than like a school email or id or whatever
jovial warren
nope
obtuse gale
oo
jovial warren
get yours now
gives you all jetbrains ides free of charge whilst you're a student as well
prisma wave
More action minutes
jovial warren
I think an extra thousand minutes of actions per 4 days yeah
obtuse gale
I did that through jetbrains not git
prisma wave
That's like pretty much it I think
obtuse gale
oh lol i rarely use git anyway
heady birch
CEO of swing
obtuse gale
ill still sign up ¯_(ツ)_/¯
heady birch
😭
jovial warren
you get $100 of azure credit, $50 digital ocean, $200 atlas, and an AWS starter pack worth $100 (the AWS starter pack is only eligible for students 16+)
obtuse gale
wait what
jovial warren
and that last part in brackets I had to contact aws support for so consider that valuable information
prisma wave
Basically free vps for a while
obtuse gale
OOO
rotund egret
Imagine being 16+
jovial warren
you wanna know what the options for VM operating systems are on azure?
Imagine being 16+
ikr
obtuse gale
whats microsoft azure?
prisma wave
Microsoft cloud computing service
jovial warren
literally the options are: Red Hat enterprise 8.1, OpenSUSE Enterprise 15, Debian 10, CentOS-based 8.1, Ubuntu 18.04 & 16.04, and the Trashdows Server
and maybe a few others
prisma wave
What more do you need?
jovial warren
er... CentOS 7 perhaps?
prisma wave
Most vps providers will only offer about that much
obtuse gale
wait is that like VPS's?
prisma wave
Yes
obtuse gale
oo
jovial warren
I don't want proprietary closed-source enterprise linux, I want free open-source linux
obtuse gale
Anything specific I should put on how do you plan to use github?
prisma wave
Not really
rotund egret
What if I told you centOS is better for MC servers
jovial warren
CentOS = backed by Red Hat and Fedora which means it's full of native repositories, and it's great to work with
prisma wave
But
literally the options are: Red Hat enterprise 8.1, OpenSUSE Enterprise 15, Debian 10, CentOS-based 8.1, Ubuntu 18.04 & 16.04, and the Trashdows Server
This is already more than what most hosting providers will offer
jovial warren
that first one makes it objectively better, the second subjective
obtuse gale
Is it an automated thing like jetbrains was or is it manually reviewed?
prisma wave
Manually I think
obtuse gale
ye
jovial warren
But
This is already more than what most hosting providers will offer
Hetzner provides CentOS 7 & 8 (the original open-source, imo better variants, not Microsoft's proprietary crap), Debian 9/10, Fedora 32 (I think), and Ubuntu Server 16.04/18.04
jovial warren
for me those are better options
prisma wave
Centos 7
jovial warren
Centos 7
not available for virtual machines
jovial warren
MongoDB Atlas credit
jovial warren
https://education.github.com/pack for all the benefits
never touched mongo db in my life lol
neither have I
prisma wave
Hetzner provides CentOS 7 & 8 (the original open-source
Hetzner and Azure are inherently not the same thing though. Azure is designed to be much more scalable and for much bigger workloads, so you can't really compare the two
jovial warren
yeah guess you're right
Azure is a bit on the high-end range though
if I want a virtual machine with like 1 vCPU and like 2GB ram from Azure it costs £11.26/month
from Hetzner, it costs 2.99 euros/month
I guess Azure is much better quality hardware though
prisma wave
not available for virtual machines
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/linux/create-upload-centos#centos-70
Well yeah because Azure is marketed at big corporations with huge workflows
jovial warren
if I try to add a VM on the Azure portal it doesn't display that as an option
prisma wave
1 vps isn't gonna cut it
jovial warren
for the price a VM on Azure costs I might as well buy a dedicated
prisma wave
I guess you're paying for support and things though
prisma wave
Being able to easily scale a workload is probably very important and you wouldn't get that with a dedi
jovial warren
yeah
prisma wave
Well individual freelancers aren't really the target audience
jovial warren
true
doesn't answer the question though of why tf they're giving out free credit to individual freelancers
rotund egret
Todays freelancers, are the business owners of tomorrow
jovial warren
yeah true
if I wanted servers though I'd probably buy my own hardware and make my own datacenters, but that's just me
a lot of businesses don't have the time, effort, need, or want to do that, or the money
prisma wave
doesn't answer the question though of why tf they're giving out free credit to individual freelancers
idk but might as well use it if it's free
jovial warren
yeah
it'll run out super quick but hey, it's free
also, this reminds me, I still need to move this Windows Server 2019 machine behind me over to CentOS 7
jovial warren
bought one of these really cheap keys from ebay, cost me like £5.99
and it actually worked
onyx loom
hello kotlin friends
if ("hello" in stringLower) {```
instead of me having to declare a new variable to put the string to lower case, is there a way i can just ignore the cases entirely in the if statement?
quiet sierra
oH ofcouse that exists
topaz bay
You can even use the parameter name in the call string.contains("hello", ignoreCase = true)
onyx loom
omg
topaz bay
Since ya know... sometimes ambiguity is messy
onyx loom
thank u my dear good kotlin friend
hot hull
Hello Kali
onyx loom
hello frosty
hot hull
I was hoping for a hello enemy java user
quiet sierra
Finally pulled out a "via twitter for KFC Popcorn Machine" today using python
heady birch
Lmao
hot hull
Should do McDonalds Ice Cream machine :))
heady birch
Twitter for rapid execution and combat targeting (react) ™️
rotund egret
I remember there was a website for teaching kotlin, I think it had a web based compiler?
Anyone know what I'm talking about?
quiet sierra
Twitter for alladin's carpet
quiet sierra
oH yeaH
heady birch
Bro??? you got the iphone 11
quiet sierra
Twitter for iphone 12
hot hull
21
quiet sierra
No
You also gotta create an app and write a ton of stuff
for each name
I had to create an app named "KFC Popcorn Machine"
and write in detail what I wanted to do with it
hot hull
oof
vapid crown
Hi! Where is DeluxeMenu wiki?
vapid crown
I also see it.
obtuse gale
wait so
is microsoft azure like VPS' and stuff?
If so is there a difference between that and digital ocean
prisma wave
Azure is more tailored to massive companies
obtuse gale
ah
woeful sigil
can it be possible to make a python script which notifies me when a specific email address mails me?
obtuse gale
😎
onyx loom
github student thing?
obtuse gale
ye
onyx loom
congrats
obtuse gale
anyone know if like
with digital ocean I can just get all my friends to sign up and then hook me up with their code lol
im being cheap af rn
will it let me use mutliple codes 🤔
quiet sierra
Reminds me that I made tons of aliexpress accounts to save money
3$ off any purchase above 4$ for new members
Saved like 30 bucks before they started to block my payments
hot hull
Feels bad, I don't have the pro badge :c
onyx loom
ha
obtuse gale
oof
onyx loom
its because ur not using kotlin, obviously
hot hull
oof
quiet sierra
yikes
hot hull
No but seriously, I have the license, just no pro
obtuse gale
lol
hot hull
Scam
quiet sierra
idk what counts as a student for github
I might aswell just wait a year and get into this system programming course
Technically 4 months
obtuse gale
I just typed in my student email
quiet sierra
I guess I have a student email
Except it's only used for online classes
And it's a microsoft thing
woeful sigil
is it possible with python?
hot hull
If what is possible?
woeful sigil
can it be possible to make a python script which notifies me when a specific email address mails me?
hot hull
How long did y'all get your license for btw
quiet sierra
usually 1 year
obtuse gale
lol free .wtf domain
quiet sierra
or until end of school period
I use my brother's acc
For free jetbrains rider
cause vs is garbage
hot hull
That's cheating
quiet sierra
he's a student himself
obtuse gale
who doesnt
jovial warren
er... most of the globe?
obtuse gale
my laptop now runs on 69 and my pc on 420
obtuse gale
lol if i run the same port of my pc and my laptop things break, even if both web servers arent on @ the same time
so i run my laptop on 69, and pc on 420 and everything goes swimmingly
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: port out of range:69420
Big 
onyx loom
unlucky
heady birch
aint that short max value
obtuse gale
yes, my media teacher is gonna love it when i submit this assignment
heady birch
Integer.MAX_VALUE = Long.MAX_VALUE
onyx loom
int is 32 bit right?
topaz bay
yes
distant sun
What brains
onyx loom
😦
heady birch
jetbrains
distant sun
^
obtuse gale
this is a suggestion for plugin developers
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/easier-yml-loading-saving-commenting-saved-comments-on-load-save.441727/#post-3822977
hot hull
Does legit noone realise you can use reloadConfig(); instead of saveConfig(); and it saves the comments, as well as the config
Like damn
And that formatting is ew
woeful sigil
hellu i made this in python
heady birch
Does legit noone realise you can use
reloadConfig();instead ofsaveConfig();and it saves the comments, as well as the config
@hot hull does it
woeful sigil
question = 'Are you hungry? YES/NO\n'
print(question)
ans = str(input())
if ans == 'YES' or ans == 'yes':
print('You are hungry. Have some food!')
if ans == 'NO' or ans == 'no':
print('You are not hungry. Go exercise!')
else:
print('That is not a valid answer. Type YES/NO')
Yes it does lol
woeful sigil
but whenever i type an answer, it also says "that is not a valid answer"
heady birch
if
elif
else
woeful sigil
elif?
woeful sigil
yes
heady birch
Then also checks the for NO
which is false so it prints invalid
question = 'Are you hungry? YES/NO\n'
print(question)
ans = str(input())
if ans == 'YES' or ans == 'yes':
print('You are hungry. Have some food!')
elif ans == 'NO' or ans == 'no':
print('You are not hungry. Go exercise!')
else:
print('That is not a valid answer. Type YES/NO')
@woeful sigil
woeful sigil
i see
obtuse gale
oh
topaz bay
ugly
heady birch
ugly
@topaz bay stop
topaz bay
no
hot hull
No
heady birch
so good
hot hull
Anyone got any suggestions for an ActionBar API (for 1.8)
topaz bay
ew
jovial warren
ActionBar API?
heady birch
my oh my
vapid crown
@onyx loom DeluxeMenu Wiki link?
pallid gale
Main wiki is down at the moment due to an external issue, in the meantime you can use this https://github.com/help-chat/Wiki2/tree/master/clips-plugins/deluxemenus @vapid crown
vapid crown
@pallid gale Ok, I have a question. The deluxemenu support quests menu?
vapid crown
E.g: "Break 50 Grass Block" and after that player get rewards.
distant sun
Depends
distant sun
Its better to get a plugin for that
jovial warren
^^^^
distant sun
You can make smth with dm but it's not the brightest idea
hot hull
I mean Blitz made one
solemn monolith
What would be the best way to spam proof my xp bot. I was thinking a user can only earn xp once per 20 or 30 seconds, but not sure how I could integrate it?
Discord.js btw
old wyvern
Store their last usage Instant and compare before letting them earn xp
solemn monolith
Alrighty
honest vortex
Anyone know how I can set a player's nametag?
solemn monolith
With a plugin, you basically change the chat formatting if I'm not mistaken
onyx loom
hello dear kotlin friends
how would one go about replacing a word inside of a string
e.g "hello fuck"
to "hello f***"
onyx loom
well yeah
but ive looked at it and wouldnt quite see how u would replace a word without replacing the whole string
wait
shut up enemy java user
i dont take advice from u
🙂
distant sun
System.exit(0);
prisma wave
replace("fuck", "f***") should do it
The first argument is the string to replace, the second is the replacement
onyx loom
omg
me big dumb dumb
i thought it would replace the entire string
thank mr kotlin
(and frosty 😉 )
hot hull
;c
old wyvern
kotlin ew
onyx loom
how dare u
hot hull
What?
old wyvern
how are you checking?
hot hull
iscof
onyx loom
prisma wave
tf is iscof
hot hull
Caused by: java.lang.ClassCastException: org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_8_R3.block.CraftBlock cannot be cast to org.bukkit.block.Chest
React with that emoji Kali
onyx loom
wait i cant react in this channel?
hot hull
L
onyx loom
☹️
prisma wave
😭
hot hull
It's neither I think
honest vortex
public void registerNT(Player player){
Scoreboard scoreboard = Bukkit.getScoreboardManager().getMainScoreboard();
if(scoreboard.getTeam(player.getName()) != null){
scoreboard.getTeam(player.getName()).unregister();
}
CachedMetaData metaData = Hub.getLuckPerms().getPlayerAdapter(Player.class).getMetaData(player);
String suffix = metaData.getSuffix();
Team team = scoreboard.registerNewTeam(player.getName());
team.setPrefix(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', suffix));
team.addPlayer(player);
}
I am using this method to set a players nametag
Any idea why it doesn't work
jovial warren
@chilly jungle WHAT IS THIS
onyx loom
disgusting
old wyvern
lol
old wyvern
nope main works
jovial warren
you learn something new every day I guess
old wyvern
jovial warren
why u still using Java anyway?
onyx loom
THIS ^
jovial warren
kotlin fan boys make kotlin repellant
you have no idea what you're missing out on
onyx loom
hey imagine having to type ; at the end of every line haha xd lmao
amirite kotlin boys
old wyvern
you have no idea what you're missing out on
Kotlin being good doesnt mean everyone in the whole wide world needs to use that one language. Nothing wrong with using Java. If you want to use kotlin, do so.
onyx loom
u will be converted 
old wyvern
hey imagine having to type ; at the end of every line haha xd lmao
I honestly like using ; at the end of statements
u will be converted :ablobdevil:
from what ?
onyx loom
I honestly like using ; at the end of statements
weirdo, including @distant sun
converted to kotlin 🙃
ocean quartz
We have Kotlin missionaries here
errant geyser
kotlin gai
heady birch
🙁
lavish notch
Is there a way to make a "dropped item" fall slowly?
prisma wave
setVelocity?
frigid badge
any1 familiar with grub2 menu entries?
trying to boot my kernel but it can't find the root
lavish notch
@prisma wave What's minecraft's default velocity?
prisma wave
@lavish notch no idea but you could probably just divide by 3 or something
lavish notch
Ok, cheers
frigid badge
fixed it: (hd0,gpt2)
prisma wave
truer words have never been said
versed ridge
takes some getting used to
lunar cypress
kotlin is pretty cool
stunning and brave
onyx loom
shut up clojure
quiet sierra
my school's website runs on wix
Those cucks got a domain and are using wix subdomain
onyx loom
🙂
quiet sierra
time to get rejected by github
quiet sierra
I'm a java dev
onyx loom
create it in java
quiet sierra
But I know someone who can do it for 10$
lunar cypress
shut up clojure
@onyx loom imagine being unable to know and use more than one language
quiet sierra
Like just create a CNAME record or something
onyx loom
☹️
quiet sierra
I can speak multiple languages
and code multiple langs
I can speak English, Java, C#
jovial warren
who's school's website runs on WIX?
lol
my school website used to be designed by this Chris guy I think, they got a redesign from Cleverbox maybe a year ago though
my school doesn't even have their A record on the root domain
so example.com doesn't resolve, you have to use www.example.com
talk about 
IT Support
onyx loom
good ol chris
quiet sierra
The problem is that they own a domain
And they use it for teacher and student e-mails
But not for the main website
And they keep switching hosts
Also our student page uses numeric ips
jovial warren
they own a domain and they use it for everything
jovial warren
no for my school
jovial warren
but they use students.schoolname.co.uk for students and schoolname.co.uk
quiet sierra
Nah
quiet sierra
We mix numeric, subdomains and our domain
I swear I paid 20$ of my own money and got a better website and domain
jovial warren
no one at the school ever listens to me, or if they do, they never get anything done
except for one member of staff who always gets things done
everyone else is just having a day off every day
quiet sierra
Principal said I make bombs because of a packet of ketchup
Pretty sure mine's worse
jovial warren
lol
mine still uses PyScripter
and every time I mention IntelliJ? they just kinda gloss over it
jovial warren
runs Minecraft 1.15.2 for the first time on new operating system
system freezes
seems legit
errant geyser
My school has PyCharm but no IJ, even though they do Java at A level. A level. And no good IDEs. Oh and they block our access from certain network drives as well as the C drive, but if you go to open a project in PyCharm (I'm assuming it's the same for every JetBrains IDE) you can open, create or delete any file you want lol. I went to the schools IT guy to show him it and suggest a fix, and my CS teachers supported me. He still hasn't fixed it. Theres a file called new-server-ips.txt, might be time to see what that has inside it 🤔
jovial warren
yeah pretty stupid
half of these so-called "technicians" haven't a clue what they're doing
anyway, I'm off for the night now
cya everyone
errant geyser
gn
onyx loom
half of these so-called "technicians" haven't a clue what they're doing
yep 😄
modern trench
Hey! Do you know how to configure a wifi network card from an Ubuntu 16.04 server? Please help me :/
sick dove
Anyone have experience porting a spigot plugin to sponge? How easy of a process is it
hot hull
@errant geyser Just encrypt them all lmao
errant geyser
I mean technically you could use it like that I guess
hot hull
||I was joking btw, don't do that as you'd probs get expelled if they found out||
obtuse gale
Whats poppin logangsters :immakms:
So, on my spring website I wanna make a message send to discord when a form is submitted, but I dont wanna have to include an entire bot in this website, is there something I can do with the discord webhooks in the server settings, or do i have to include an entire bot in my website?
heady birch
You can use webhooks
Id just search how to send webhook in java and plop it in your spring app somewhere
obtuse gale
alright
how does discord know what to make the message look like? Do I have to form this in json or smthn?
obtuse gale
tfw u get an error on a line that doesnt exist
im guessing thats cos it compiles to java or smthn lol
hot hull
Noice
lunar cypress
Typically should not happen
topaz bay
What about it?
prisma wave
Is that what you're using
heady birch
🤮
topaz bay
Yes
topaz bay
I am ofc, not using that anymore
That would be gross
I just wanted to see if it would actually compile
prisma wave
We must all make sacrifices in the name of science
obtuse gale
Is that what the dude who died while tryna prove the earth was flat said?
heady birch
vein
prisma wave
vayne
https://twitter.com/kotlin/status/1268511168748019714?s=19 this looks interesting
jovial warren
callbacks?
"any executable code that is passed as an argument to other code" ah okay
hot hull
Anyone got any clue as to why my dependencies just break randomly from time to time? (Tried reimporting but it does nothing)
prisma wave
reee maven bad
prisma wave
I mean that's a good idea even if it is fixed
jovial warren
@hot hull mvn clean install
try that
also try to use <repositories> for things taht aren't in maven central, since that allows for better portability
there should always be a repository entry on the maven installation unless it's in maven central
hot hull
I don't get it, I'm not even using 1.15, nor have I ever imported the 1.15 jar 
prisma wave
Transient dependencies probably
hot hull
Elaborate
prisma wave
A dependency of a dependency
Possibly Matt's framework
You can exclude it but I don't remember how in maven
hot hull
I've used matt's framework in every other plugin and never had this issue
prisma wave
Just go through the poms of all your dependencies and see which one it is
Or make a dependency graph
mvn dependencies iirc
jovial warren
yeah that might work
you would've thought matt's framework would use the repository though
also, mvn dependencies isn't a thing
hot hull
It can't be Matt's framework, I'm legit using it in 4 other plugins, which I've just compiled successfully..
jovial warren
mvn clean install?
prisma wave
you would've thought matt's framework would use the repository though
wdym
hot hull
[ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project DistrictUpgradables: Could not resolve dependencies for project com.github.frcsty:DistrictUpgradables:jar:1.0.3: Failed to collect d
ependencies at com.github.brcdev-minecraft:shopgui-api:jar:1.2.0 -> org.spigotmc:spigot-api:jar:1.15.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT -> net.md-5:bungeecord-chat:jar:1.15-SNAPSHOT: Failed to
read artifact descriptor for net.md-5:bungeecord-chat:jar:1.15-SNAPSHOT: Failure to find net.md-5:bungeecord-parent:pom:1.15-20200526.094750-74 in https://hub.spigotmc.org/ne
xus/content/repositories/snapshots/ was cached in the local repository, resolution will not be reattempted until the update interval of spigot-repo has elapsed or updates are
forced -> [Help 1]
like to get the dependency
jovial warren
mvn clean
prisma wave
It's a dependency of shopgui
jovial warren
try that
prisma wave
So exclude it?
hot hull
That fixed it
jovial warren
which one?
hot hull
Dude.. do you even read chat?
jovial warren
yeah I wasn't sure which solution fixed it
hot hull
So exclude it?
prisma wave
it needs spigot classes from somewhere
hot hull
It's brc, he's a 4head
prisma wave
Probably ItemStack and stuff
jovial warren
none of these closed-source plugin developers seem to have any idea about how to make a good API
hot hull
No spigot developer does :kek:
prisma wave
I mean
Name me a better way of doing it? The API needs spigot classes from somewhere
jovial warren
what does the API need spigot classes for though?
the API is supposed to depend on the main plugin, which has the spigot dependency
lucko does it really well
prisma wave
That defeats the point of having an API
spigot API doesn't depend on CraftBukkit
That's the point
jovial warren
Spigot API does depend on CraftBukkit
jovial warren
Bukkit depends on CraftBukkit
prisma wave
Spigot depends on CraftBukkit, spigot API doesn't
jovial warren
where do you think things like Player are implemented?
hot hull
Kinda missing the point KM, it's an API for a plugin, you ain't gonna be running the api without the plugin
jovial warren
the Player interface is implemented in CraftBukkit
prisma wave
where do you think things like
Playerare implemented?
In CraftBukkit... But importing spigot API doesn't add CraftBukkit transitively
prisma wave
Kinda missing the point KM, it's an API for a plugin, you ain't gonna be running the api without the plugin
True, but if you want to keep the actual plugin classes private then this is the best solution
Yes
jovial warren
https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms LuckPerms does it well
hot hull
KM, open source everything :))))
jovial warren
the API isn't supposed to depend on anything
prisma wave
Precisely
jovial warren
which some plugins can't do that well
prisma wave
It's supposed to be an abstraction, depending on the implementation would make that abstraction useless
So the shopgui API needs to be theoretically independent from the implementation
Hence the spigot dependency
It's not great, and open sourcing the actual plugin would be better, but I can see why they did it
jovial warren
yeah
the plugin depends on the API, not the other way around
obviously ShopGUIPlus' API depends on the ShopGUIPlus plugin
hot hull
Imagine how much better the world would be if people open sourced everything 🙂
jovial warren
I agree
onyx loom
clip
prisma wave
This will probably end up being abandoned side project #957291 but I'd love to start an organisation where we recreate premium plugins and make them open source
jovial warren
I'd join you
onyx loom
in kotlin 😍
jovial warren
that was kinda what my organisation was for
but Prevarinite isn't really going anywhere at the moment
prisma wave
I think freemium is the best business model. where you can get them for free but you pay for support
onyx loom
^^
jovial warren
if they want to support us they can donate?
prisma wave
that way there's incentive for us to actually do it, while not being scummy at the same time
jovial warren
yeah good point
prisma wave
not many people actually donate though
jovial warren
yeah
onyx loom
yea
jovial warren
I think we should link the source code on the spigot page as well
onyx loom
ive never donated when someone on the plugin page says so
prisma wave
yeah ofc
jovial warren
maybe make it clear that buying the premium version is for support only
prisma wave
yep
onyx loom
whereas ive paid for freemium projects before
jovial warren
just so people know that they have the option
prisma wave
Go down the libsdisguises/Guilds/Citizens route
jovial warren
and then we put all our builds on a CI server if people want to get them for free
or something
prisma wave
that can be 1 of the projects
onyx loom
all of clips
jovial warren
the punishments on there is outdated
also, we should recreate just closed-source plugins as well
prisma wave
yeah
no point remaking oss premium ones
we could keep using that org if you want
or make a new one
jovial warren
not just premium closed-source, but also possibly free closed-source
depends
if you wanna join the organisation you're more than welcome
it's currently me and Yugi at the moment, you guys can join us if you want though
onyx loom
id like to join if i was good enough 😦
jovial warren
you are
prisma wave
gh username is knightzmc
jovial warren
the invite button
prisma wave
oh lol
onyx loom
also if ur going freemium on spigot then ull need to have the premium requirements
prisma wave
hmm true
onyx loom
like 80 messages and 3 plugins
prisma wave
maybe make a few free ones first
jovial warren
invited you BM
hot hull
Imagine not having premium requirements met pfft
jovial warren
anyone else? send me your usernames
jovial warren
gotcha
idk whether you know about our policy here, but basically it's work whenever you want, however you want
prisma wave
seems fair
we should probably set some sort of standard if we're having >2 people working on something
jovial warren
yeah
jovial warren
so will I
onyx loom
so will i
prisma wave
yay
jovial warren
idk about Yugi, he'll probably have to adapt to it
prisma wave
i guess you can use java if you want
prisma wave
I don't think that's really necessary
A well documented kotlin interface is just as readable as a Java one
onyx loom
OS
jovial warren
A well documented kotlin interface is just as readable as a Java one
I agree
onyx loom
yup
jovial warren
also accept the damn invite already @onyx loom lol
onyx loom
im in bed
jovial warren
haha fair enough
onyx loom
seems like effort to get out
hot hull
Guess who has to make custom enchantments :sudoku-inbound:
prisma wave
Sounds fun
obtuse gale
Lol
jovial warren
you should come and join us frosty
prisma wave
Yea
hot hull
And legit yeet myself out the window? I'm good thanks
onyx loom
yes
jovial warren
wdym?
prisma wave
Wat
obtuse gale
Oh well
jovial warren
what's wrong with Prevarinite?
obtuse gale
What a smart brain 😂
jovial warren
lol
onyx loom
ok ill get out of bed now
jovial warren
also @prisma wave I'm probably gonna need to redo the site at some point
prisma wave
It doesn't seem to be up
prisma wave
Yeah can do
jovial warren
I took it down because I got shall we say a complaint
prisma wave
About what?
prisma wave
Oh lmao
jovial warren
I mean fair enough to him, he did pay for it
onyx loom
lol
onyx loom
html?
jovial warren
@prisma wave it's my creativity where I lack
prisma wave
Yeah
jovial warren
I'm a programmer, not an artist or a designer
prisma wave
You can make a decent looking thing with bootstrap and that's it
jovial warren
yeah
maybe we should use something like angular for frontend, because of it's compatibility
jovial warren
does Vue have support for different size devices like angular does?
prisma wave
I'm not sure the framework is really responsible for that
Bootstrap is responsive, which is probably more than enough
jovial warren
I just need something very fast, lightweight, and responsive
and that's ideally compatible with mobile devices
prisma wave
Bootstrap is a good option
frail glade
Yeah there's a Vue version
prisma wave
Might be worth a look
jovial warren
might wanna get learning JS then
jovial warren
I imagine it probably is
signal tinsel
Hm
Yall know my plugin premiumchat
Rn I have permissions for formats, colors, channels etc
I'm thinking of replacing that with a requirements system similar to dmenu's
Should I?
jovial warren
could be a good idea
signal tinsel
It would provide a lot more control
jovial warren
if you're charging people for it though you've gotta make it better than it's competitors
jovial warren
right now, I'd just choose EssentialsChat
signal tinsel
But for requirements
jovial warren
there's gotta be something about it that makes it worth buying
or people won't buy it
signal tinsel
Ye
It already has quite a lot of customizability
But the more the better tbh
And it wouldn't add a terrible amount of complexity to the api
quiet depot
how does ur plugin compare to venturechat?
jovial warren
from what I've seen so far it doesn't have much over EssentialsChat
signal tinsel
Venturechat?
quiet depot
=plugin venturechat
compact perchBOT
quiet depot
venturechat is probably the most feature complete chat plugin on spigot
jovial warren
looks like it
quiet depot
chatcontrol pro has a higher feature number than it iirc, but also iirc, they're mostly gimmicks
jovial warren
does it have multi-proxy support? (a.k.a a redis messaging system)
quiet depot
no clue
jovial warren
I've been looking for a redis-based chat plugin for literally ever
quiet depot
looks like it doesn't support redisbungee
jovial warren
I would just put in jedis for Pub/Sub
RedisBungee means it needs to depend on something else
signal tinsel
What do you mean by a redis-based chat plugin
jovial warren
one that uses redis to talk between servers
- Because PMC is super slow compared to redis
- Because redis support means that you can support more than one proxy
jovial warren
it isn't
obtuse gale
I dont even know wtf redis is lol
jovial warren
redis pub/sub is a bit of a pain
signal tinsel
Though there's no point in using it in public plugins as I don't think there's a single public host that gives redis instances
jovial warren
yeah
optional redis support is always a factor though
and you'd have something that no other plugin (from what I can find) has
signal tinsel
True
But tbf if you're using redis you're probably running a larger network and run a dedicated server, so you're prolly gonna get custom plugins
jovial warren
yeah good point
quiet depot
I dont even know wtf redis is lol
@obtuse gale easiest way to think of it is as a cache
quiet depot
however people also use it as a messaging service
signal tinsel
You can have 3 "chat sections" I guess
jovial warren
redis itself is a key-value map
signal tinsel
Like 3 separate sections for separate hover/click things
With my plugin everything has unlimited things like that
jovial warren
redis pub/sub is the messaging system it uses
signal tinsel
If you want you could add 100x : and have a separate hover/click for each
quiet depot
a premium chat plugin probably wouldn't even get accepted on spigot
signal tinsel
Its already on spigot
jovial warren
it already has
quiet depot
oh
signal tinsel
xD
jovial warren
frail glade
They pretty much accept anything now
jovial warren
I doubt it'll sell well though
frail glade
Skripts, etc.
quiet depot
that's so sad waffle 😦
signal tinsel
Why compare it to essentials chat lol
jovial warren
wait they really accepted a premium plugin that's the same as essentials chat?
yeah
signal tinsel
That's rough
jovial warren
that's what it's on-par with
quiet depot
bardy said it was the same as ess chat maffie
jovial warren
at the most on-par from what I've seen
frail glade
In other news, I can go ahead and remake my PR for PAPI in MinecraftDev since the rewrite got done.
quiet depot
I wanna make an intellij plugin for rpf eventually
intellij has a guice plugin, but due to the way rpf uses guice, it doesn't pick up on it
jovial warren
https://gitlab.com/JustMaffie/premiumchat/-/wikis/Commands that's less commands than EssentialsChat has
signal tinsel
Wait, echat has commands?
jovial warren
I suppose it has channels
but channels isn't going to make someone pay 10 euros for it
signal tinsel
Also what do you need more commands for
jovial warren
wasn't saying you need more commands
was saying it's just kinda very similar to what essentialschat does
https://gitlab.com/JustMaffie/premiumchat/-/wikis/Permissions EssentialsChat has very similar permissions to this
the PAPI support is a bonus
sharp knoll
does anyone know a good tutorial for creating/using yaml files?
jovial warren
but there are plugins that have that
does anyone know a good tutorial for creating/using yaml files?
I'd just suggest reading the specification
tutorials won't give you anywhere near everything you need to know
signal tinsel
You can't compare my plugin to esschat lol
jovial warren
oh I can
it's still no where near something like VentureChat which is free, or DeluxeChat which is cheaper
https://yaml.org/spec/ @sharp knoll
sharp knoll
hmm okay
jovial warren
I know it's very long and wordy, but that has literally everything you'd ever need to know
prisma wave
Unless of course you meant how to do it via code
sharp knoll
yeah thats more what im looking for @prisma wave :3
anyway i found a lot of information about using xml instead so im looking into that rn
hot hull
@prisma wave You said you had an enchants plugin right? You got any clean ways of handling the equipping/unequipping the armor containing the enchant?
prisma wave
I've made a few before. Wdym?
hot hull
I need to find a clean way of handling the equiping of an enchantment (applying effects when you put on a helmet, properly removing it when you take it off, etc)
prisma wave
There are various ArmorEquipEvents that you could use. If not, perhaps just a repeating task. Lemme check what I did
hot hull
(On 1.8 so doubtful :p)
jovial warren
1.8 is a pain for everything that is version dependent
hot hull
Yeet inbound
onyx loom
oh no
topaz bay
imagine using java
onyx loom
hello fellow kotlin users
is using ifs the same as using when expression? is it down to personal preference?
https://paste.helpch.at/ahubuxiren.coffeescript
old wyvern
Should be the same. The compiler uses if-else , switch and ternary to express when statements
ocean quartz
When is cleaner though
onyx loom
i would also agree
prisma wave
I believe convention is to use when for if there are 3 or more conditions, otherwise use if
old wyvern
anyone wanna clash?
onyx loom
o.o
topaz bay
Wouldn't it be nice if kotlin had unbounded ranges
onyx loom
if we get more ppl then sure lets do it
onyx loom
unbounded ranges?
hot hull
KM, u died smh
old wyvern
Join frost
topaz bay
when (mark)
{
in ..39 ->
in 40..59 ->
in 60..79 ->
in 80.. ->
}
busy
old wyvern
ah rip
topaz bay
Could be nice
hot hull
boutta yeet myself due to these enchants
topaz bay
fuck clash
onyx loom
☹️
old wyvern
Yea I left after a bit
hot hull
This shitty spigot api is gonna make me yeet myself out the window one day
old wyvern
Whats wrong?
onyx loom
frosty, u say this everyday 😆
hot hull
I don't, this is the first time saying this after a couple of months
Whoever designed the inventory click event, can go eat 💩
distant sun
noob
hot hull
I mean yeet yea, not regarding the spigot api tho
@distant sun Shut up, imma cook ur cat
distant sun
I would say smth but fc will get mad at me
onyx loom
say it
distant sun
so fuck you
onyx loom
he aint here 👀
hot hull
Say it in my dms
distant sun
nah
hot hull
Weakling
onyx loom
oop lol
old wyvern
Bad service configuration file, or exception thrown while constructing Processor object:wrgwgwgwgw
ocean quartz
Lite text editor, looks pretty nice
old wyvern
looks like sublime kinda
onyx loom
looks nice
is there an easier way to do this / looks nicer https://paste.helpch.at/kepepiwuve.java