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#dev-general
old wyvern
hot hull
This man seriously has a lowercase name eeee
prisma wave
smh
obtuse gale
what a nerd
hot hull
So what language shall I use
prisma wave
ok so what language is everyone gonna use
heady birch
hm
old wyvern
I have to have a look at the list
heady birch
c#
prisma wave
this is probably gonna be awful lol
hot hull
You should be warned, I've not used anything but java
old wyvern
xD
hot hull
So..
prisma wave
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
obtuse gale
lol same
prisma wave
hopefully simple tasks will be easy
lunar cypress
no idea what im gonna use
hot hull
javascript cheating or?
prisma wave
idk
heady birch
oh thats not bad
its got hints n stuff
I dont even know how to convert a char into an int in C#
obtuse gale
lol you nerds know more than one language?
prisma wave
haskell is hideous
lunar cypress
god
prisma wave
this has got to be the worst language i've ever used
lunar cypress
use a language you've never used
lunar cypress
actually that wasn't so bad
obtuse gale
wtf is D
hot hull
I tried using a different language, but I can't even figure out what the fuck I'm supposed to do with java so..
lunar cypress
I'm smart enough to not pick something like haskell
obtuse gale
lol
prisma wave
why is it so hard to loop through a string
lunar cypress
where I know it takes ages to get into
prisma wave
come on guys
prisma wave
fuck off haskell
prisma wave
abc = 1 + 2 + 3 = 6
lunar cypress
A = 1, B = 2 and so on
lunar cypress
don't ask me about it
topaz bay
lisps suck
lunar cypress
but be aware for functional languages the template they generate tends to be unusable
topaz bay
:)
prisma wave
give me death
hot hull
I've legit no idea
lunar cypress
honestly the tasks are so small it doesn't really matter
any c family language will do
Fast code, fast.
this is the slogan of D
lol
always share code btw
oh, scala, good one
old wyvern
that was awfully similar to java
lunar cypress
scala terrifies me
old wyvern
seems fine
lunar cypress
lmao frosty
old wyvern
removes the need for () when no params xD
hot hull
I don't know any of these methods, and google ain't of help.
lunar cypress
I knew that bm would die here
old wyvern
why?
lunar cypress
because fucking haskell
hot hull
Hurry up BM
old wyvern
I don't know any of these methods, and google ain't of help.Choosing clojure was surely suicide
xD
hot hull
Yugi, I changed to Clojure at the end
old wyvern
ah
hot hull
Couldn't even figure it out with java lmao
old wyvern
wha
lunar cypress
FP programmers are divided in two groups: the smooth brain lisp people and the wrinkled brain haskell people
hot hull
Hey atleast I didn't get last
prisma wave
or the huge brain Frigga programmers
old wyvern
FriGay
prisma wave
๐
old wyvern
xD
lunar cypress
I get anxiety attacks when someone asks me what a monad is
prisma wave
@hot hull somehow I beat you lmao
lunar cypress
LOL
hot hull
Scam
prisma wave
how
hot hull
That's horseshit
obtuse gale
k
lunar cypress
allright
hot hull
Clojure it is
lunar cypress
my man
old wyvern
Haskell it is
hot hull
Finna be commiting sudoku today
old wyvern
(I have chosen death)
old wyvern
xD
lunar cypress
@light leaf any comments on haskell
hot hull
oh god
obtuse gale
ONO
lunar cypress
jfc
prisma wave
wtf is this question
obtuse gale
codeboy sounds like a nerd
obtuse gale
make your own fucking muffins
prisma wave
"His mother is a busy lady" GIVE HER A REST
obtuse gale
fuck you kurtesy
75%
lets go
beat that nerds
Literally didnt change a line of code btw
75% of the time his happy
prisma wave
lmao
obtuse gale
wait what
lunar cypress
bruh
obtuse gale
75% ๐
lunar cypress
man I could've saved so many characters
obtuse gale
i didnt realise it was shortest
I couldnt made my so much shorter ๐ฆ
whats taking you nerds so long, just print "HAPPY\n"
ez
prisma wave
i actually have no clue what's going on here
hot hull
Neither
lunar cypress
without the comments i'd have beaten that... dammit
obtuse gale
Is score prioritised over characters?
lunar cypress
yes
old wyvern
yes in this round
lunar cypress
obviously
hot hull
Fucking scam I got 50%
old wyvern
I feel dead
hot hull
Aj, I couldn't figure it with fucking java, gimme a break
old wyvern
That output took so much work
hot hull
Atleast I got a nice char number :))
old wyvern
for some reason you need black magic to use ternary in haskell
prisma wave
that was the worst question I've ever seen
old wyvern
Frost
prisma wave
it was worded so stupidly
lunar cypress
m + t * x
hot hull
Yugi?
hot hull
Yes.
old wyvern
start it km
lunar cypress
again... come on
obtuse gale
isnt binary representation like 1010010101001 or is that something else lol
oh wait
yeah i just didnt read lol
lunar cypress
damn dart is fast
prisma wave
ah you're using dart too
jovial warren
and dart is what flutter is written in
lunar cypress
mine is also going to be a "one liner"
aka freeform syntax abuse
has bm submitted yet?
prisma wave
๐ก
lunar cypress
good ol' popcount
jovial warren
lol
hot hull
1 more, then I gotta go finish something
prisma wave
ok
hot hull
This man used php eeee
hot hull
You could've removed a lot of spaces
obtuse gale
do spaces count o_o
lunar cypress
php is a big yikes
hot hull
Yes Aj
obtuse gale
o
obtuse gale
why so much binary ._.
rapid vapor
How would i have something that writes peoples uuids to a list at the end of a command (i have already set up the custom config file) and then checks if their uuid is on that list and if it is, dont let them run it again
i have been trying to do this for ages
obtuse gale
what is this lol
jovial warren
yeah because it's expecting unsigned and you gave it signed
that's the trouble with those things
lunar cypress
user=> (Long/toBinaryString (bit-or 2 3))
"11"
Works fine in the repl
it's signed
topaz bay
@lunar cypress did you see the conversation about unions by contract?
jovial warren
https://ci.prevarinite.com/job/Punishments can someone confirm that they can see this page?
ocean quartz
Asks for password
lunar cypress
@lunar cypress did you see the conversation about unions by contract?
@topaz bay I did not
jovial warren
try that link again @ocean quartz
ocean quartz
Now asks to log in xD
onyx loom
CLASH OF CODE??????????
ocean quartz
Same thing
ocean quartz
You thought ;p
onyx loom
โน๏ธ
jovial warren
stupid bloody matrix-based security!!!!
ocean quartz
I remember configuring Jenkins before, it was a pain
Even remember having a log file with 30GB
jovial warren
yeah because the permissions aren't fucking normal
ocean quartz
That crashed the vps
jovial warren
I don't even have 30 GB storage on my VPS lol
this thing currently has 20GB
that's ya lot
I could add more, but you can only add more SSD storage, which costs a fortune
try again now perhaps?
onyx loom
unlimited storage on the cloud 
jovial warren
yeah but how am I gonna get a CI server on the cloud big brain?
onyx loom
use the big brain
onyx loom
smh ur brain aint big enough i guess
jovial warren
anyway, try the link again
jovial warren
FUCK
oh hold on
might be helpful if I add the READ permission
๐ค
try again
jovial warren
what can you see?
ocean quartz
Doesn't have any files
jovial warren
yeah not yet
ocean quartz
jovial warren
I literally made it about 10 or so minutes ago
topaz bay
@lunar cypress given
type Object
val instance: Object
typeof(instance) == "Object"
and
type Object
toString(): String
val instance: Object
typeof(instance) == "Object | Function<Object, String>"
And you can imagine this pattern extends into every function contract defined in Object
Making the type a union of all of its contracts
lunar cypress
What if you have two methods with the same signature?
Or 2 fields of the same type
topaz bay
Simplest resolution would be to use the first or to not have that be a union
jovial warren
own... language...?
topaz bay
Might end up doing it, idk
ocean quartz
The mighty Odin
lunar cypress
I see some challenges with that, but it's certainly something that'd be useful
old wyvern
java.util.Properties xD
onyx loom
๐ฎ
jovial warren
best site of the century
old wyvern
xD
old wyvern
what the
onyx loom
lmao
old wyvern
who has so much free time
jovial warren
https://weirdorconfusing.com/ this one is good
hot hull
I'm buying this
jovial warren
hahahaha
onyx loom
fuckin weirdo frosty
hot hull
Oi, that's what the site gave me
old wyvern
Should a class that has SQL in its name use it in upper or normal?
hot hull
ClassSQL
old wyvern
so not ClassSql right?
hot hull
Ew no
ocean quartz
It's by convention Sql in the class name
old wyvern
oh
ocean quartz
But you see a lot of it being broken everywhere like URL for example
ocean quartz
Yeah i'd say so
prisma wave
URL and SQL are acronyms though
ocean quartz
Yeah but according to the conventions it should be Sql
It looks meh imo though
They don't know what they want
prisma wave
Are they all from the Java standard lib though?
old wyvern
True Sql looks wrong
ocean quartz
Nah, java lib tends to do SQL
prisma wave
Yeah
Sql looks like Apache being dumb
@jovial warren probably converts java.time.Date to java.sql.Date or something
jovial warren
I think most ORM software uses Java's SQL library anyway lol
java.time.Date isn't a thing lol
java.util.Date or java.time.LocalDate I think
ocean quartz
Google uses it as well
jovial warren
the convention by kotlin standard is: if the acronym is more than 2 letters it gets written in PascalCase
old wyvern
So... everyone just does what they feel like ๐
ocean quartz
Exactly
prisma wave
There kind of is
jovial warren
people just do whatever the fuck they want
prisma wave
and by that I mean there is
jovial warren
the only conventions Java has are ones that people have come up with themselves
prisma wave
Uhh... No?
jovial warren
https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/codeconventions-150003.pdf you learn something new every day actually
ocean quartz
Java changed a lot over the years, in the beginning yeah there was nothing
jovial warren
that link I sent is from 1997 and it's still probably quite valid lol
wait is Java SE 8 not LTS any more?
jovial warren
I know 11 is LTS, never knew they removed LTS from 8
https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase-downloads.html no LTS next to Java 8
prisma wave
"Use whole words-avoid acronyms and abbreviations (unless the abbreviation is much more widely used than the long form, such as URL or HTML)" looks like the convention is URL
jovial warren
yeah
prisma wave
I think it's because Java 11 is the latest LTS
jovial warren
even though the official Java class including both of those words is HttpUrlConnection
a.k.a the worst library in Java
ocean quartz
StructuredQueryLanguage
jovial warren
unless they've updated it
ocean quartz
Best name for class
old wyvern
yes
jovial warren
StructuredQueryLanguage
StructuredQueryLanguageException
MyStructuredQueryLanguageDatabaseType
MariaDatabaseDatabaseType
old wyvern
what?
jovial warren
MicrosoftStructuredQueryLanguageServerDatabaseType
DatabaseType is a thing from ORMLite, dw
old wyvern
What is the DatabaseType supposed to be
jovial warren
first thing I could think of lol
old wyvern
oh
ocean quartz
PostgresStructuredQueryLanguageType
jovial warren
the DatabaseType interface represents a type of database
it's PostgreStructuredQueryLanguage
idk why loads of people call it "postgres" lol
jovial warren
https://img.bardy.me/thatswhy.png that's why
"also known as Postgres"
originally named POSTGRES
that'll be why
why is MongoDB in the "People also search for" section
it's probably the worst database driver I can think of
the syntax is a mess, and it's non-relational
prisma wave
non relational doesn't mean bad
ocean quartz
Postgre is pretty meh as well imo
prisma wave
Not necessarily
Well yes
But that doesn't make it bad
That's like saying "python is bad because I'd have to redesign my Java app to be in python"
rotund egret
True
old wyvern
xD
rotund egret
Python is bad confirmed
jovial warren
non-relational is annoying though
relational databases just make thing easier since you don't have to repeat yourself
prisma wave
Never heard that
onyx loom
maybe i dont like repeating myself then โน๏ธ
jovial warren
lol
prisma wave
and non relational can be fine depending on the data you are storing
ocean quartz
Tbh a lot of people (specially on spigot) use MySQL without relationships anyways, for them it'd be the same
jovial warren
yeah but say if you had a database of customers, and a database of the items they've purchased (for example), it'd be much easier to just have one row in the purchases table that "points to" the customer's ID in the customer table
Tbh a lot of people (specially on spigot) use MySQL without relationships anyways, for them it'd be the same
that's just because half of these idiots don't have a clue what MySQL even is or how it works lol
old wyvern
Yes but you are only considering that case
jovial warren
actually "idiot" depends on how bad your programming is
old wyvern
it depends on what you need is
jovial warren
and when I say bad, I mean https://gitlab.com/RandomHashTags/fatbucket that bad
old wyvern
whats that?
prisma wave
yeah but say if you had a database of customers, and a database of the items they've purchased (for example), it'd be much easier to just have one row in the purchases table that "points to" the customer's ID in the customer table
Theoretically non relational is faster as it avoids multiple queries
prisma wave
So saying "non relational bad" is quite naive
jovial warren
yeah I guess, I just don't like it that much
prisma wave
https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/applications/data-models-relationships/ also mongo can do relationships by foreign key if you really want
fair enough
jovial warren
I thought it was non-relational?
https://gitlab.com/RandomHashTags/fatbucket/-/blob/master/src/main/java/me/randomhashtags/fatbucket/FatBucket.java also, first line of that, that's what I mean by bad programming
public static FatBucket getPlugin;
prisma wave
it's NoSQL but not explicitly non relational
jovial warren
not just that
prisma wave
They just say you should prefer embedded documents
jovial warren
he's literally getting a static instance from the main class
and then initialising it
old wyvern
yes but thats the first time I see someone name a variable like that xD
jovial warren
oh he does it in all his plugins
old wyvern
like what went through their mind?
jovial warren
even the ones he charges people money for
hot hull
@onyx loom This man clearly hasn't contemplated life before
jovial warren
and people actually pay the price
old wyvern
whats his name?
onyx loom
xd
old wyvern
wow
hot hull
The trash that is RandomPackage
old wyvern
even his name sounds bad
hot hull
I had a stroke looking through that code
onyx loom
@onyx loom This man clearly hasn't contemplated life before
@hot hull thats not very nice. say sorry
jovial warren
@hot hull I tried to fork that once, gave up in less than a minute
idk how tf he copes
hot hull
I didn't even get to the point of forking it lmao
jovial warren
whatever he's on I want some of it
onyx loom
does the plugin work tho 
jovial warren
yeah it does
but the spaces in the configuration paths just sealed the deal for me
from the variable named as getter getting a static instance of the main class, to the very very poorly named classes in the util package, to the spaces in the configuration paths
onyx loom
i hope my first plugin once i get to that stage will be as bad
so u can all roast me
will be fun ๐
hot hull
Better be that 69420 lined chat clear plugin
jovial warren
lol
let's see how his bot is written
https://gitlab.com/RandomHashTags/discordadmin/-/blob/master/src/main/java/me/randomhashtags/discordadmin/iTextChannel.java oh what is that class name
IT'S NOT EVEN AN INTERFACE
ONLY INTERFACES ARE SUPPOSED TO BEGIN WITH AN I
AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A CAPITAL I
sorry about that lol
jovial warren
@prisma wave this guy is beyond hope
jovial warren
private final boolean isPremium;
at least this one uses getters and setters PROPERLY
prisma wave
you're not wrong
jovial warren
yeah idk about GitLab
jovial warren
what do you use for self-hosted? Gitolite?
prisma wave
I only use gitlab for commissions just to separate it from my GitHub
topaz bay
I dont self host
jovial warren
I use GitHub for public projects at the moment and I'll probably setup Gitolite on the dell optiplex machine I have behind me for private projects
prisma wave
self hosting isn't worth it imo
jovial warren
no you don't
prisma wave
You do
topaz bay
Yes you do...
jovial warren
lemme find this hold on
oh wait maybe the restrictions only apply to organisations
prisma wave
mhm
jovial warren
which only get 2,000 min/month for the free plan
but I like self hosting anyway
actually hold on
I've got GitHub pro and I get a maximum of 3,000 minutes every 4 days on private repos
jovial warren
yeah gl to me filling that
topaz bay
I do
jovial warren
actions?
prisma wave
why tho
topaz bay
Not very often though
prisma wave
They kinda suck
prisma wave
Travis is much better
topaz bay
Based on what?
prisma wave
My personal opinion and experience with the 2
topaz bay
Stupid.
jovial warren
what even are "actions"?
topaz bay
How is it obnoxious?
prisma wave
It uses map lists
topaz bay
That doesn't answer the question
prisma wave
Idk it just seems much messier
prisma wave
Yaml was probably a bad choice for why they're trying to do
jovial warren
yeah I get free travis ci with my gsdp but I ain't using it lol
topaz bay
Why even make the claim of something being better without objective attributes to back it up
:/
jovial warren
alright brb dinner time
prisma wave
Because it's subjectively better
prisma wave
My experience with actions has been frustrating at best. They try to do way too much in just yaml, the entire process seems convoluted and verbose, idk
topaz bay
I don't understand this perspective
The only roadblocks I have come into contact with have been purely with the lack of something being implemented
Its not convoluted at all
jovial warren
you say things are "better" all the time and most of the time they're subjective opinions lol
topaz bay
@jovial warren That is unequivocally untrue
The only things I claim to be better here are IntelliJ and Gradle, both of which are objective better than all of their competitors, in many ways.
jovial warren
the IntelliJ one I can agree with, Gradle though, guess you could say that building 7-85x faster than maven is objectively better
topaz bay
I specifically stated objectively.
And you fallback to subjective matters.
The answer is nothing
jovial warren
I don't find maven's plugin ecosystem to be that bad
topaz bay
Did you consider thats because its pretty much non existent?
jovial warren
maven has built-in plugins and I suppose that's about it
topaz bay
Thats not an ecosystem
jovial warren
good point
pliant badger
When did you start using some sort of version control software like github, like how much time after first writing code?
topaz bay
When you say "first writing code", are you referring to first starting a project? Or like... writing code in general
jovial warren
I would suggest he means when you actually first start
pliant badger
Yeah let's assume after the hello world print
jovial warren
getting in to good habits (a.k.a using build automation and version control early on) is very good imo
pliant badger
I'm actually worried that i am too slow in what i am doing
jovial warren
it may be a little difficult for beginners to get the hang of, but it isn't that hard once you get to know it
pliant badger
i'm about 6 months in and now it's the first i'm trying it out
jovial warren
trying git? git's easy, trust me
literally you just push code to a repository and that's it
git isn't the more difficult part
pliant badger
yeah i kinda used only 3 commands
jovial warren
yeah
I think GitHub might tell you what to do when you first open a new repo, GitLab definitely does
just tells you how to hook it up
pliant badger
Yeah i'm not worrying about actually using that kind of software
jovial warren
use it in all your projects
Gradle builds much much faster, though I personally prefer Maven's XML layout, it's really up to you
errant geyser
Just going to sneak in and add absolutely nothing to the conversation, your welcome. gradle mr
pliant badger
Same reason i used maven, the pom file it's way easier to navigate and to read imo
topaz bay
How does this make sense?
errant geyser
Yeah that's got me a little bit
jovial warren
what's got you?
topaz bay
There is no way in hell you find it easier to read a giant XML document that a couple of lines of groovy
jovial warren
well I do
topaz bay
Its literally impossible
pliant badger
i mean it's longer but i think because it has a syntax similar to html
errant geyser
Just like Hyper Text Markup Langauge. That's why its familiar
jovial warren
yeah
topaz bay
plugins {
id 'java'
}
repositories {
maven({ url "https://papermc.io/repo/repository/maven-public/" })
}
dependencies {
implementation "com.destroystokyo.paper:paper-api:+"
}
11 lines
And you're on your way to making a plugin
I'm pretty sure XML has 11 lines of ceremony to begin with before you even start to add your project specific details xD
jovial warren
<build>
<plugins>
<plugin>
<groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
<artifactId>maven-shade-plugin</artifactId>
<version>3.2.0</version>
<configuration>
<createDependencyReducedPom>false</createDependencyReducedPom>
</configuration>
<executions>
<execution>
<phase>package</phase>
<goals>
<goal>shade</goal>
</goals>
</execution>
</executions>
</plugin>
</plugins>
<resources>
<resource>
<directory>src/main/resources</directory>
<filtering>true</filtering>
</resource>
</resources>
</build>
hyperbole. btw.
jovial warren
that's just the shade plugin for maven
I'll give you that, gradle is a lot lot more compact
also, why tf do you depend on the paper api?
topaz bay
plugins {
..
id "com.github.johnrengelman.shadow" version "5.2.0"
}
..
import org.apache.tools.ant.filters.ReplaceTokens
processResources {
from(sourceSets.main.resources.srcDirs) {
filter ReplaceTokens, tokens: [version: project.version]
}
}
equivalent in gradle ^
topaz bay
And why wouldn't you use the paper api?
jovial warren
idk, incompatibilities?
jovial warren
I do agree though, paper is objectively superior to spigot
prisma wave
Maven bad gradle good
jovial warren
but some weirdos still run spigot servers
prisma wave
if you know it will be only on paper, who cares
jovial warren
Maven bad gradle good
gradle is objectively better than maven in lots of ways yeah I agree
prisma wave
Use paper API
jovial warren
you can't run a paper plugin on a spigot server though
topaz bay
Yes you can
jovial warren
can you?
topaz bay
You just cant use any paper specific apis
jovial warren
yeah
topaz bay
Which is not hard
jovial warren
if you do you've made your plugin spigot-incompatible
is the paper API better to use than spigot's API?
prisma wave
Paper API has more features
jovial warren
yeah ik
topaz bay
So wdym is it better to use?
jovial warren
does it have proper multithreading?
prisma wave
Not really
jovial warren
does it fix any of the major issues with the spigot API that make it a pain to work with?
prisma wave
the default Minecraft server isn't thread safe, no amount of patching will fix that
yes
jovial warren
might start using it then
prisma wave
there's literally no reason not to
jovial warren
as long as it won't make my plugins incompatible with spigot
prisma wave
Unless it's a public plugin
jovial warren
which it is
going to be
should probably use spigot if it's public then
going to be*
jovial warren
since when was that a method
prisma wave
damn good idea
heady birch
Race conditions drop to 0%
jovial warren
also you two
prisma wave
why didn't mojang think of that smh
pliant badger
could you guys give me some feedback on how i could improve my coding style?
i mean if i send you a code snippet? I don't really know how to get feedback lol.
prisma wave
sure
heady birch
Also, I have to add Lol underneath incase you think I'm being serious
pliant badger
this is a database class, i had some problems before that i think it made it some kind of god object and i was wondering if it's better now:
public class DatabaseClass {
Main main;
private Connection litebansCon;
private Connection playerpointsCon;
private Connection luckpermsCon;
LitebansData lbd;
PlayerPointsData ppd;
LuckpermsData lpd;
public LuckpermsData getLuckpermsData() { return lpd; }
public LitebansData getLitebansData() { return lbd; }
public PlayerPointsData getPlayerPointsData() { return ppd; }
private String getFromConfigPath(String path) {
return main.getConfiguration().getString(path);
}
public DatabaseClass(Main main) {
this.main = main;
try {
createDatabasesConnection();
} catch (SQLException e) {
e.printStackTrace();
main.getLogger().info(Colors.color(getFromConfigPath("DatabaseError")));
}
lbd = new LitebansData(litebansCon, main);
lpd = new LuckpermsData(luckpermsCon, main);
ppd = new PlayerPointsData(playerpointsCon, main);
}
//Method to connect to different databases
private Connection connectToDatabase(String database) throws SQLException {
String ip = getFromConfigPath("Ip");
String port = getFromConfigPath("Port");
main.getLogger().info(Colors.color("&fAccesez baza de date &6" + database + " &fpe adresa " + "&8[&6" + ip + "&8]"));
return DriverManager.getConnection(
"jdbc:mysql://" + ip + ":" + port + "/" + database,
main.configuration.getString("User"),
main.configuration.getString("Password")
);
}
}
oh shit
jovial warren
wait hold on
prisma wave
that's definitely doing too much
jovial warren
- not using ORM
- getting plugins' databases directly? is that what I see?
old wyvern
private Connection playerpointsCon;
private Connection luckpermsCon;```Why are you storing connections?and 3, yeah it's definitely doing too much as BM said
old wyvern
waaay too much
pliant badger
I need the connection from when i run the queries
topaz bay
Not using an ORM is not a bad thing
topaz bay
Some would even say its better
jovial warren
ORM is just better though
topaz bay
Some is me.
prisma wave
in fact I'd say it's overkill for some things
jovial warren
yeah I can tell
pliant badger
I mean i'm just trying to understand what i could do in order to simplify the code
topaz bay
ORMs are not "better"
jovial warren
so you think raw queries is better than a DAO API @topaz bay ?
prisma wave
I only use an ORM if setting all the relationships manually is too complex
topaz bay
There are many ways in which they are worse
How tf...
The dichotomy isnt a DAO and raw queries
You can implement a DAO with raw queries or an ORM
jovial warren
you can use both
they usually come together
I suppose DAOs do essentially just execute raw queries anyway
prisma wave
@pliant badger refactor. Your class shouldn't know anything about Luckperms, Litebans or PlayerPoints for one thing. Where are these methods coming from? createDatabasesConnectionfor example
jovial warren
yeah
also you're hooking in to LiteBans @pliant badger ? good luck
no wonder you're connecting to the database manually for LiteBans
pliant badger
i mean i read the litebans api wiki
jovial warren
but the other two should have non-shitty API's that can do that for you
topaz bay
What language is that?
pliant badger
Romanian btw
topaz bay
Makes sense
jovial warren
i mean i read the litebans api wiki
the LiteBans API Wiki? you mean you actually managed to survive reading that?
whatever you're on, I want some of it
no but on a serious note, for LiteBans, you might as well connect to the database yourself
pliant badger
Queries from the api and my queries are basically the same
jovial warren
yep
because LiteBans' so-called "API" isn't even really an "API", it's just a joke
topaz bay
everything about litebans is a joke
jovial warren
it's just kinda there because Ruan doesn't want to seem like a dick
pliant badger
So the class knows too much that for sure from what i understand
topaz bay
Yes
jovial warren
everything about litebans is a joke
I second that
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
jovial warren
good idea, getting good practices ingrained early on
jovial warren
I don't even know those fully
heady birch
If you want to clean up your code see https://spring.io
pliant badger
more practice should fix that.
topaz bay
Its a set of responsibility patterns
jovial warren
@heady birch you should rename yourself to "SpringBot"
prisma wave
@pliant badger a lot of it does come down to practice
heady birch
if i could ๐
jovial warren
you can't change your nickname?
topaz bay
Its cosmetic
topaz bay
That is literally the opposite of pay to win
prisma wave
/nick
pliant badger
So if i understood correctly i good way i could refractor is making the database class only have the method that returns a connection to a specific database, and then actually call that method from classes that handle those specific cases
like playerpoints and stuff
jovial warren
yeah I was joking @topaz bay
topaz bay
I didn't realize you possessed the ability to do such things
jovial warren
you take ME seriously?
pliant badger
I like brister because he's purple.
jovial warren
that's a first
errant geyser
he can't stay purple forever
jovial warren
how do you get those custom colours?
errant geyser
Tiers
prisma wave
they aren't custom
jovial warren
whatever they are
prisma wave
it's tier 5 where the cool kids hang out
pliant badger
i like this green a lot, i use it in my windows color theme
jovial warren
it's teir 5 where the try hards hang out more like @prisma wave
errant geyser
Hey BM if you just helped us all out with like a 400x global multiplier we'd all be the cool kids ๐
jovial warren
ik I'm kidding
jovial warren
Hey BM if you just helped us all out with like a 400x global multiplier we'd all be the cool kids ๐
max you can get is 10x
prisma wave
how am I gonna do that
jovial warren
when someone boosts
errant geyser
Irrelevant
jovial warren
unless they stack
prisma wave
they don't
errant geyser
Bribe the admins
prisma wave
I could go on strike
errant geyser
Not having to use BMs latest invention
prisma wave
then they would lose their most active member
jovial warren
maybe you guys get paid to code
jovial warren
=stats
errant geyser
Haha I wish. I've been paid like once, the rest I've either been scammed or done for free since u have almost no way to receive payments anyway
jovial warren
=stats top_users
prisma wave
they would miss out on a lot if I went on strike
errant geyser
BM hows your aids machine coming? You need some help deep frying the Roblox oof sound or some other earrape material?
prisma wave
I'm kinda scared to do anything
onyx loom
bardy eventually gonna overtake me ๐ฆ
prisma wave
getting to tier 5 takes a very long time
errant geyser
Why? Are you afraid of the mighty OOF
prisma wave
not tryna flex or anything but I've been active since august 2019 and only just got it
@errant geyser terrified tbh
onyx loom
august?
onyx loom
ive been active since like november
jovial warren
idk about you but I no life this thing
prisma wave
onyx loom
yet we same level
errant geyser
R.I.P we lost a true gamer today
prisma wave
hmmm
topaz bay
trash
jovial warren
hence why I've been here since about may and I'm already lvl 23
prisma wave
@onyx loom you are a sweat
topaz bay
cause you talk too much
jovial warren
actually it's 30th april
onyx loom
im not โน๏ธ
prisma wave
you are
onyx loom
how โน๏ธ
prisma wave
idk
jovial warren
cause you talk too much
finally, something I can fully agree with
onyx loom
ok
prisma wave
yes
prisma wave
vous tout parlez trop
jovial warren
hablas demasiado
topaz bay
cest pas vrai
onyx loom
baguette
topaz bay
juste cette enfant
prisma wave
c'est vrai
pliant badger
j'aime le baguette.
prisma wave
c'est tout vrai
topaz bay
je cest pas comment tu dite "teenager" en fraincais
jovial warren
haven't done french since year six
topaz bay
dont correct me bitch
prisma wave
regarde-moi
topaz bay
I already told you I dont do french writing
prisma wave
j'ai oublie ca
errant geyser
I'm glad I dropped French as soon as I could. Anyway, j'adore BM earrape baguette machine in French
prisma wave
oui oui earrape
prisma wave
it's kind of complicated by the fact that I reset my pc and hadn't backed up my deep frier
so that will be fun to rewrite
onyx loom
yikes
errant geyser
NOรรOOรOOO
errant geyser
Today the world lost the most significant invention since, like, gravity. shut your face 4head I'm aware it's not an invention
errant geyser
Starting now. I'm timing this.
jovial warren
time was also invented
as a word, and also as a measurement
the flow of space-time wasn't invented
onyx loom
how dare u speak during a minute of silence
topaz bay
The part where I said "as we know it" is very important
topaz bay
fuck your silence
onyx loom
๐
topaz bay
You will RUE the day
errant geyser
How DARE you interrupt this moment of universal sadness
jovial warren
smh my head
get out
onyx loom
SMH MY HEAD
errant geyser
You dont get to judge after disrupting the moment of global grieving for our lost program. He was better than we will ever be. He was so good. Always deep frying the memes we gave him. Always fucking destroying our ears. What more could we ask for?
jovial warren
lost program?
jovial warren
"what more could we ask for" more like "what less could we ask for"
onyx loom
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
jovial warren
this is one of the rare times I actually agree with sxtanna
onyx loom
im disgusted
even if u think its trash (OPINIONS) u should respect the death of the amazing feat in humanity
onyx loom
gn
prisma wave
gn
jovial warren
lol
onyx loom
jovial warren
finally
to me pissing off for the night?
old wyvern
gn
errant geyser
Gn
topaz bay
its chrome
ocean quartz
Chromium not chrome
topaz bay
its literally the same thing
ocean quartz
Kinda, one is not annoying me all the time to make it the default browser xD
topaz bay
Wouldnt do that if it was the default browser
ocean quartz
but i don't wanna
ocean quartz
It doesn't constantly but once in a while windows update does annoy you to use it
topaz bay
oh...
errant geyser
Windows updates are generally a pain in the ass anyway
ocean quartz
And katsumag nah i am too used to chrome at this point
errant geyser
Ok. I just like the UI design a lot more. Plus like, force dark mode
topaz bay
force dark mode?
errant geyser
Its SOOOOO good
topaz bay
Gonna have to disagree with you on that one
dark reader better
lol
Which technically, since its chromium now
You can use the same extension on edge
errant geyser
Imagine not using Piggys dark theme for spigot and the Stylish GH dark theme
I can't remember if it's called Stylish or Stylus
One of the two
ocean quartz
I'm terrible at valorant damn
topaz bay
rotund egret
That is legitimately my favorite video
topaz bay
I love the "How It's Made" format of these kind of videos
That was legitimately my favourite show as a child
quiet depot
me too, huggbees is my favourite in that genre https://youtu.be/fA_Gdui7sug
