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jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I have a lot of testing things in this

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Yeah unit testing is nicer

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Mockk is really nice

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:34 PM

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https://paste.helpch.at/opepejotas.xml my dependency list

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Although unit testing commands based on messages is... Ehh

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Maven reeee

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:35 PM

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yeah

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people say kotlin maven is a big pain in the ass but I haven't had a single problem with it yet

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:35 PM

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It's not that it's bad

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It just doesn't compare to gradle at all

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I use maven because I find it easier to read, but mostly because it's what I've been using for pretty much ever

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:36 PM

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You find 5 lines of XML easier to read than 1 string?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:36 PM

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kinda yeah

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:36 PM

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🤔

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Well

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:36 PM

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it tells you the group id, artifact id, and version

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Rest assured you'll be assimilated into the gradle masterrace soon

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So does gradle's syntax lol

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:36 PM

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gradle does this: "groupId:artifactId:version"

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I'm mainly using maven because it's what I'm used to though

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:37 PM

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not for long

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:37 PM

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maybe I'll learn gradle at some point

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:37 PM

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:)

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:37 PM

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if I find a need to switch to gradle I'll switch to gradle

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I don't know how you can stand maven's speeds

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:37 PM

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yeah the build speed is a bitch

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I find compilation after a tiny change takes 20-30 seconds

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whereas gradle is almost instant

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:38 PM

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takes around two minutes just to shade all of these modules

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:38 PM

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😬

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shadowJar takes 30 at most

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:38 PM

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so you're saying gradle is faster?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:38 PM

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yes

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Ridiculously faster

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:38 PM

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might have to look in to gradle then lol

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Incremental compilation means tiny changes will compile almost instantly

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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wait, gradle or groovy?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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gradle

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Groovy is a language

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that gradle scripts use

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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this just a kotlin thing? afaik i havent saw this in another language before

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jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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doesn't gradle's syntax look like compile("", "", "")?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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it's not exclusive to kotlin

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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or is that outdated now

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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that's with the DSL

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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PHP can do it as well

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And a bunch others

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@onyx loom that is a really useful Kotlin feature, probably in other languages though

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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the kotlin DSL that is - if you don't like groovy you can write gradle scripts in kotlin

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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sexy af being able to add numbers inside a print

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Yeah string interp is in a few modern languages

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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kotlin is the most modern 😎

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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DSL is probably a bad idea

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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You can use it to create monstrosities as well, let me find the image just a sec

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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implementation 'groupId:artifactId:version'

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The DSL is kinda personal preference

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I don't really like it

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but I think it has potential

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^^ that's in groovy

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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There you go, the monstrosity you can create with it

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jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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one of the main reasons I switched to Kotlin though is it means I don't even have to touch J... cough cough J...cough cough sorry, I can't say it

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@ocean quartz you disgust me

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I know

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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oh no

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uve ruined me now

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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imagine having to write getters and setters in your language

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:42 PM

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and that J is not Java by the way

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I can say that

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Oh?

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Oh yes

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I know

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The dreaded JS

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:42 PM

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AAAAAHHHHHHH

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:42 PM

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@ocean quartz I wonder if you could write an entire plugin inside of a String

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:42 PM

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don't say that word

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Sorry

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:42 PM

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lol

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Typescript is ok tho

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Oh my god

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I kinda wanna try

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:43 PM

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never used TypeScript

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:43 PM

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It's somewhat nicer

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But you can't beat static, strong typing for anything big

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:43 PM

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never used anything other than Java, very basic Python, Kotlin, even more basic C, a really really small amount of PHP, and maybe touched on C# a little bit

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 5:43 PM

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give a language review for TS

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I've not used TS much

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It's nicer than JS because static typing

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:44 PM

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AAAAAAAHHHHHHH

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lol

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alright I think I should be good now

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anyway

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JS is all over the place though

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I won't lie

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I don't think js is that bad

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if you use it for its intended purpose then it's fine

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small scripts on webpages

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:45 PM

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yeah it is lightning fast

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PHP takes a bit more time to load

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though it's type inference is a joke

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it's not even type inference

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it's what is it called, duck typing?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Yeah I think so

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:46 PM

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"This" = true, "" = false

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true + true = 2

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that's where I draw the line

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and then

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we get to the libraries

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:47 PM

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JavaScript's type coersion is a mess

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Without a doubt

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But like

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:47 PM

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cough cough https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/g80hbm/the_oneline_package_ispromise_broke_npm/ cough cough

r/webdev - The one-line package 'is-promise' broke 'npm create-reac...

69 votes and 38 comments so far on Reddit

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:47 PM

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As a language it's not that ugly, it does the job, it's reasonably fast, and interacts well with html

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I agree with that

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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npm is a joke

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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the libraries are a joke though

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Yes lmao

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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why would you even depend on a one-line package that would literally take me 5 seconds, if that, to write in myself

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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The amount of 1 line packages is ridiculous

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node_modules is usually like 2gb

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npm install is just an illusion of being productive while you wait for thousands of packages to download

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:49 PM

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let's do a test of how long this takes me to type

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function isPromise(obj) {
    return !!obj && (typeof obj === 'object' || typeof obj === 'function') && typeof obj.then === 'function';
}

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about 20-30 seconds, including the time it took me to read what was written in the post, and include the ```js

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literally nothing

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 5:50 PM

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das crazy

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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what is the actual point in a one-line package?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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idk

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it takes longer to download it

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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blobthonkang

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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just to be able to implement it in multiple packages?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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than it does to type it

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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exactly

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now that's a joke

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can anyone here explain to me what angular is and how it works by the way?

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is it an alternative to node?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:52 PM

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No

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It's a framework for frontend JavaScript

heady birch May 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I was thinking about this a couple hours ago

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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or just frontend websites as a whole

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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because my friend said he uses angular for frontend and Kotlin + Ktor for backend

heady birch May 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I cam across a 4 line npm package

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vec2-copy

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Angular is rendered on the client side

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Node is processed server side

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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is node.js backend?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Yes

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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so Ktor + Kotlin is a node alternative

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I guess

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Pretty much any language will work for backend

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:54 PM

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and definitely a better one since it means if you're writing stuff in Java it all stays in one codebase

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:54 PM

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It's not so much of a node alternative as it is a backend solution

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you can do full stack kotlin which is nice

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:54 PM

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and what I mean by that sentence is if you're writing stuff for java in Kotlin

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Full stack Java is more difficult

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:54 PM

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like a plugin

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Yeah

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You could quite easily write backend in Kotlin/JVM, frontend in Kotlin/JS and share code between the two

heady birch May 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Web applets 😭

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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😭 😭

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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since I've learned all the things Kotlin can do I'm not writing another line of Java unless I have to ever again

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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too soon

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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also hold on

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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lmao

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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if I write an API in Kotlin can people use it if they're writing in Java?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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since I've learned all the things Kotlin can do I'm not writing another line of Java unless I have to ever again
this is pretty much what everyone thinks

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Yes

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99% interop

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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ima write the best api uve ever seen

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and everyone gonna use it

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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good idea

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:57 PM

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yeah most of the time the question I'd be asking when learning Kotlin would be "WHY TF IS THIS NOT IN JAVA?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 5:57 PM

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most of the time i just stare in awe

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it just looks so good

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:57 PM

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unless the code is written in allman style

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:57 PM

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this is such a circlejerk

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but i agree lmao

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the sheer amount of quality of life stuff compared to java is crazy

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:58 PM

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doesn't allman actually defeat the point of things like expression whatever they're calleds?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I could talk about how good the standard lib is for days

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wdym?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:58 PM

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expression bodies that's the one

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I thought everything had to be wrapped in curly brackets

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I'm not actually sure

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since the code style was written for java

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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yeah

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probably why it looks seriously bad in Kotlin

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Personally I would say expression bodies are an exception

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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and when I say seriously bad, just take a look at VoteParty's source

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https://github.com/darbyjack/VoteParty

GitHub

darbyjack/VoteParty

Give rewards to all online players when the server gets a certain amount of votes! 1.8+ - darbyjack/VoteParty

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Allman looks a lot nicer inside the IDE imo

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I agree

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but I still think it doesn't look right

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:00 PM

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like on github it looks ugly as hell, but combined with intellij's highlighting and things it becomes a lot more expressive

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I don't like how the first { isn't on the line of the declaration

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that bugs me

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:00 PM

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it's kinda personal preference

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:00 PM

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lol

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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and if statements taking 4 lines to do one action instead of just one line

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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if statements without braces are a bad idea in any code style imo

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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if (condition)
{
    return
}

down to if (condition) return

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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they can lead to some nasty bugs

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especially since unreachable code is only a warning in kotlin

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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ye id brace ifs

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I hate having to brace things

rotund egret May 28, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I made a habit of bracing every if, no matter how annoying

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:02 PM

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^

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wise words

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:02 PM

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thing is though, my style is based off of literally the rest of my life: function, not form

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I brace every if unless it's very small things like return or continue

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:02 PM

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if(player.bal < 10)
  sendMessage("You're too poor")
doSomethingElse()

if you wanted to return here and didn't notice the lack of bracing

if(player.bal < 10) 
  sendMessage("You're too poor")
  return
doSomethingElse()```

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lack of braces can cause mistakes very easily

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:03 PM

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yeah fair point

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thing is though, my style is based off of literally the rest of my life: function, not form
as I said though, ^^^^^

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:03 PM

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fair enough i guess

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i'd advise adhering to an existing code style on any public project though

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:04 PM

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yeah but I'd be surprised if there's a code style that looks like mine

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my style is based around compactness and efficiency (and that's efficiency meaning the time it takes me to write it, not how fast it runs), not readability

rotund egret May 28, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I'd say so long as you're consistant, and provide a style guide you're okay for the most part.

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:05 PM

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^

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:05 PM

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probably a good idea

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:05 PM

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consistency is key

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I'm very inclined to say that readability should be prioritised over everything else

rotund egret May 28, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Well if you're using java, ideally yes. That's pretty much the point of the language

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:05 PM

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concise code doesn't mean it's good code, especially if you're sacrificing readability to get the concisity

rotund egret May 28, 2020, 6:05 PM

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If you want a functional language something like scala might be better

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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never used scala

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kotlin can do functional stuff reasonably well

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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kOtLiN

rotund egret May 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Maybe, I haven't looked too much into kotlin

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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u wont regret it 🙃

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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any language with first class functions is a step up from java lol

rotund egret May 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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I want to though lol

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:07 PM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/starwars-star-wars-episode-3-3o84sw9CmwYpAnRRni

Giphy

Star Wars

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 6:07 PM

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dew it

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:11 PM

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is there way to add commented line in a Yaml with a FileConfiguration object ?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I'm assuming by the fact that comments aren't actually part of YAML (they're just skipped, they don't actually count) I'd probably say no

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:12 PM

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sadly not

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snakeyaml completely ignores comments

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and I don't believe you can set them

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:13 PM

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why would you want to write comments like that anyway?

rotund egret May 28, 2020, 6:13 PM

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hocon 🥰

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:13 PM

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because I still can't extract a default config from my jar

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:18 PM

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so you've written the config file in to the correct folder right?

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if you've written it you don't want to read from the embedded one you want to read from the one you just wrote

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:18 PM

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he can't use the embedded one

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so imagine he's setting the defaults manually

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i'm fairly sure there's a way to get this working, I just can't remember it

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:19 PM

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this was probably already answered but, why exactly can't he use the embedded one?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:20 PM

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weird classloader stuff

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resources from a classloader are never loaded in by papi

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HOWEVER

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i've had an idea @brave minnow

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this is gonna be a disgusting hack

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but it might just work

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:21 PM

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also can't he just save the resource himself directly?

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actually I'm not getting this

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that method we mentioned earlier only loads classes, nothing else

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:22 PM

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yes

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so getResourceAsStream returns null

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:22 PM

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but then won't it load his class which then saves the file?

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I'm saying if he didn't try and save a resource using is it PAPI's API? idk

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:23 PM

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it loads the classes into the classpath

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but it doesn't load the resources

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:23 PM

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ah okay

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that's a bit stupid isn't it?

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what's the fix?

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I'm talking about the fix on PAPI's end, not on the expansion's end

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if it's a simple fix I'll fork this right now, fix it, and submit a merge request

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:25 PM

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The simple fix would be to add the Jar's URL to the URLClassLoader rather than each individual entry like piggy's issue

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but since most people will probably be on older versions

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Time for a fat workaround

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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so what would need changing?

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try (URLClassLoader cl = new URLClassLoader(new URL[]{jar}, clazz.getClassLoader()); JarInputStream jis = new JarInputStream(jar.openStream())) that line?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Yeah I think s

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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too late @prisma wave http://prntscr.com/splgby x)

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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So

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:27 PM

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hold on a second

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:27 PM

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@brave minnow this solution will support comments and won't need to do it in code

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I recognise those colours

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I've got just the meme for that

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Uh oh

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:27 PM

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📎 intellij-meme.png

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:27 PM

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THERE WE HO

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go*

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:28 PM

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probably why he's using build path

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@prisma wave It's done and honestly it is executed only when the config folder is empty so it's like saveDefault with extra steps 🤷

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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you misspelt generateDefautlConfig() by the way @brave minnow

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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damn did they get rid of that faq meme

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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what FAQ meme?

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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that image used to in faq list

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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@jovial warren I found gold on a shit ... hold on a second 👀 http://prntscr.com/splhyt

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I said they should replace Eclipse and IntelliJ with Java and Kotlin in that meme @onyx loom

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I AM EXTREMELY CLEVER

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:30 PM

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yep they definitely should

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why so @prisma wave

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:30 PM

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also, PAPI expansion depending on spigot-api?

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hmm...

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 6:31 PM

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white theme, my eyes

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:31 PM

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that's gonna make it massive since he's using build path

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in maven you'd do <scope>provided</scope> and in gradle I can't remember what it is

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that would stop it from bundling the spigot API in to your plugin

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:31 PM

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I prefear gradle don't know why

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maybe maven is too much xml for me '-'

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:32 PM

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THEN WHY AREN'T YOU USING IT?!?!?!?!?!?!?! lol

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:32 PM

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https://img.bristermitten.me/19.32.19-2020.png https://img.bristermitten.me/19.32.37-2020.png @brave minnow

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as I said, i'm extremely clever

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that should work for getting the file from the jar

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:33 PM

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too late I won't change that it's staying like this maybe in a future version 👀

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:33 PM

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also I think I'm probably gonna convert to gradle if it's definitely gonna be faster

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@brave minnow your loss

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@jovial warren because I don't know well how to use it lol

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:33 PM

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It's definitely going to be faster

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I will mention that example is extremely hacky

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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bad dev bingo:

Uses eclipse
Uses light theme
Uses build path

we have a bingo!

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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And won't work unless the class is run inside a jar

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Bit harsh lol

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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well fuck off I decided to use your code you boy smarter than me ! è_é angry upvote

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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But yes use gradle

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Gradle good

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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yeah I didn't mean for it to come out that harsh

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Gradle good, not gradle bad

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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@jovial warren

making a plugin for fun
not giving a shit because it's the beggining
well I'm use intelliJ stop to bully me 😢

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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there is no excuse for using light theme

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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as I said, that came out a little more harsh than I intended

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there is no excuse for using light theme
I definitely second that though

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:37 PM

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you made me angrily better è_<

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you boys are fkin cool I like to deal with you !!! much agressivity is for love :p

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:38 PM

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🙂

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:38 PM

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that's both funny and nice

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bullied into being better

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that happens a lot here

hot hull May 28, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Bardy, no.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:39 PM

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that happens a lot anywhere lol

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@hot hull what?

hot hull May 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I definitely second that though
There is not.

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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wot

hot hull May 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Dark theme, or no theme

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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oh yes, of course

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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that's exactly what I meant...?

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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no theme is like you coding on invisible IDE ? '-'

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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no

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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that's called using black theme with black text

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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u dont code at all

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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that's not dark theme

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no theme is essentially what happens to websites when the CSS doesn't load in properly

hot hull May 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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No, no theme is deleting your IDE

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:42 PM

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true

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:43 PM

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no, no theme is getting rid of your screen

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:45 PM

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https://gyazo.com/48078cc31579cc1c7f8089da48bc8024 lol

Gyazo

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well, time to clear out my SSD

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:46 PM

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o

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:46 PM

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apparently 5.74 GB isn't enough for photoshop's scratch disk

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and by the way, that's a 250GB SSD

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and I just emptied the downloads

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:47 PM

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disk clean up too?

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:47 PM

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wtf bro my eclipse turned into red/blue/yellow/purple logo and it goes dark thonking

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:47 PM

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yeah thats just eclipse being eclipse

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that dont happen with IJ

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:47 PM

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you didn't understand 👀

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:48 PM

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i dont have the capabilities to understand eclipse

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thats why

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 6:48 PM

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the eclipse's logo changed http://prntscr.com/splt91

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👀

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:48 PM

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oh now i understand

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now we talking

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:49 PM

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lol

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if you're a student I'd recommend applying for the GitHub Student Developer Pack lol

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gives you all JetBrains products for free

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:49 PM

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o

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link?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:50 PM

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https://education.github.com/pack

GitHub Education

GitHub Student Developer Pack

The best developer tools, free for students. Get your GitHub Student Developer Pack now.

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it gives you much more than just free IDE's though

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:51 PM

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o wow

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:51 PM

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for any high school/secondary school and above students who haven't applied for it, I highly recommend you apply for it

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https://gyazo.com/4202f0e47b243567a13a959e29b63e36 also that might explain my storage issue a little bit

Gyazo

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don't ask why my computer's in Spanish

tame jolt May 28, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Hey, I really hope there's someone who can help me out.
I'm currently messing around with uploading files via PHP (https://www.w3schools.com/php/php_file_upload.asp) and I'm trying to find out if there's a way I could randomize the name of the file it uploads.
Anyone who can help me?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:55 PM

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don't know PHP sorry

heady birch May 28, 2020, 6:55 PM

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there is no excuse for using light theme
@onyx loom 😠

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:55 PM

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NO

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EXCUSE

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:55 PM

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please don't tell me you use ~~light theme~~ @heady birch

heady birch May 28, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Uh

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No?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:55 PM

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was gonna say

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:55 PM

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hes lying

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😠

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:56 PM

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lol

heady birch May 28, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Well

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I use it during the day

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:56 PM

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NO

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EXCUSE

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oh god how do u use this niall

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my eyes burn

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i am sorry for anyone ive just traumatised

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:57 PM

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imagine not using material theme

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:57 PM

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orange text for imports

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get out

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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hey my imports are orange 😦

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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orange text on light theme get out

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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i dont use light theme 😦

heady birch May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Cos you got the weird new theme

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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yeah I know

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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yall can do a code review while ur at it xd

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prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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use constants

heady birch May 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Original theme better

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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farrenheight's type can be inferred

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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for the multipliers and things

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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@heady birch

Java
Light theme

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xD

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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AND A JAVA USER

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WTF NIALL

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ur a disgrace

heady birch May 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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This was before I knew the true power of kotlin

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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THEN LEARN KOTLIN

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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oh thank god

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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like me 🙂

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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I nearly had a heart attack lol

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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@onyx loom const val FARENHEIGHT_MULTI = 0.555555555

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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const is a thing in Kotlin?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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could probably use a fraction too

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yes

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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its using the same variable as celcius

brave minnow May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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@jovial warren I was student this year but it's finished lol

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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const val gets inlined

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:01 PM

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inline val?

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:01 PM

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i didnt really know how to optimise the calcs of farrenheight into celcius

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im using 2 lines for the calcs thonking

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:01 PM

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inline val isn't exactly a thing

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:01 PM

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good point

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there's probably a converter out there somewhere

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also it's fahrenheit

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not farrenheight

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:02 PM

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idc 😠

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its the ugliest measurement going

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:02 PM

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I agree

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:03 PM

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val inCelcius = (farenheit - 32) * 0.55555555

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:03 PM

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i tried that before but it was saying something

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ill try it again

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:03 PM

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I personally call the better one Centigrade

heady birch May 28, 2020, 7:03 PM

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I use feet mainly, or metres

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For height

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:03 PM

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but please use const val

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:03 PM

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https://tenor.com/Z4Di.gif @heady birch

Tenor

heady birch May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Lol

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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ok 😄

heady birch May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Farenheight?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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yeah

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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i have no fuckin clue

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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magic numbers bad

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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I personally use imperial measurements over metric

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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ew

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metric good imperial bad

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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is me using BigDecimal good or bad?

heady birch May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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bad

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well

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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idk

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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i heard kotlin has its own rounder

heady birch May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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depends

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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see in most countries you're either full imperial (like the US), or full metric (like most of Europe), but in the UK, we like to do a bit of both

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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BigDecimal is still used, but it's not really necessary here

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Double will do

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@jovial warren only in height and distance

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metric > everything

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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for example: the fuel that you put in your car is measured in litres (metric), but the consumption of that fuel is measured in miles per gallon (imperial)

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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@prisma wave you are fundamentally wrong sir

heady birch May 28, 2020, 7:06 PM

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I do use kotlin

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:06 PM

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imperial was here first

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metric is the outsider

heady birch May 28, 2020, 7:06 PM

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For any new non-spring projects I will use kotlin

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Until I learn kotlin and spring nicely

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:06 PM

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I don't use Spring

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but who the hell uses Spring for Minecraft plugins anyway?

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@prisma wave and how would i go about rounding to a certain d.p with double?

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 7:07 PM

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We should just use Metric everywhere

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I agree we should just use one universal system, don't agree that should be metric though

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:07 PM

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the kotlin system soon ™️

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:07 PM

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@onyx loom iirc Double.round exists

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Metric is the most consistent

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:08 PM

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true

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there's just something about it that doesn't quite sit right in my head though

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:08 PM

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49011924/round-double-to-1-decimal-place-kotlin-from-0-044999-to-0-1 @onyx loom

Stack Overflow

Round Double to 1 decimal place kotlin: from 0.044999 to 0.1

I have a Double variable that is 0.0449999 and I would like to round it to 1 decimal place 0.1 .

I am using Kotlin but the Java solution is also helpful.

val number:Double = 0.0449999

I tried ge...

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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also Double.round isn't a method

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unless it's not static

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no it's either roundToInt() or roundToLong()

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Yeah was gonna say it's roundToInt

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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ah ok

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:10 PM

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but you can just use %.xf

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replacing x with the D.P.

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:10 PM

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but does that truncate or actually round?

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:10 PM

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When I try to use FontAwesome on a webpage, why do the icons appear like this? I have it in my page because I have html <link href="https://stackpath.bootstrapcdn.com/font-awesome/4.7.0/css/font-awesome.min.css" rel="stylesheet" integrity="sha384-wvfXpqpZZVQGK6TAh5PVlGOfQNHSoD2xbE+QkPxCAFlNEevoEH3Sl0sibVcOQVnN" crossorigin="anonymous"> in the head section. The two I'm trying to use are html <i class="fas fa-search"></i> <i class="fas fa-shopping-basket"></i>

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jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@onyx loom rule with truncation is usually if it doesn't truncate explicitly it's rounding

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@errant geyser sure the icons you're looking for are called search and shopping-basket?

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:13 PM

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yup

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Coppied the basket code from here: https://fontawesome.com/icons/shopping-basket?style=solid
And the search one from here: https://fontawesome.com/icons/search?style=solid

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:14 PM

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sure the sha integrity is the same?

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Copied from https://www.bootstrapcdn.com/fontawesome/ so yeah

Font Awesome

The recommended CDN for Font Awesome

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:16 PM

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what web interface you using?

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or whatever it's called

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https://fontawesome.com/start

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Web interface? You mean browser? I've tried Chrome and the new Edge beta

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:16 PM

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you just using bootstrap?

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Yeah

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Entire code is here: https://paste.helpch.at/tapubogocu.xml

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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not browser, for example: angular, npm, etc.

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Ah yeah just Bootstrap and its dependencies, so jQuery and popper.js too

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I know it's a bit insecure, but have you tried it without the fingerprint?

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:19 PM

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No, I'll try it now

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Still nothing

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:19 PM

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didn't think that would do anything

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:20 PM

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check the chrome network tab

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to see if it's being reached properly

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:20 PM

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https://paste.helpch.at/dilivahiji.coffeescript @prisma wave are u proud 🙂

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i did the cleanup thing

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Looks like it is BM

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jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:21 PM

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BM?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:21 PM

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@onyx loom getting better

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BM is me

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:21 PM

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KM*

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:21 PM

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old fashioned name

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:21 PM

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🙂

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:22 PM

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yeah I know that @prisma wave was just wondering if he meant something else lol

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:22 PM

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@onyx loom a few things
variable names should be lowerCamelCase
farrenheight could be inferred (ie without the :Double)
the magic numbers (32 and 5/9) should be extracted to constants

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:22 PM

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@onyx loom why tf does the bin see it as coffeescript lol

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and also fix your god damn spelling

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:23 PM

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the detection algorithm isn't perfect

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:23 PM

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"farrenheight" -> "fahrenheit"

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I DONT CARE

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ITS AN INFERIOR SYSTEM

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i will not change its spelling, as it represents how shit it is

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:23 PM

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and "celcius" -> "celsius"

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:24 PM

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oh shit

#

right

#

i should change that

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:24 PM

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also, making that better depends on scalability and readability

#

if you want to use that conversion in more than just one place I'd suggest using a constant

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:25 PM

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why is using constants better?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:25 PM

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read my message again

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makes it scalable

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:26 PM

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i had to google that.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:26 PM

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also hold on

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:26 PM

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scalable yes. using magic numbers is bad because there's no implication on what the number is actually for, so it's less readable

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:27 PM

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val farrenheight: Double = reader.nextDouble()

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:27 PM

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ive removed Double

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as KM said

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and alright i understand now

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:27 PM

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"Farrenheight temp?" Enters: hello
error

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cannot parse string to double

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:27 PM

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yeah ik 😆

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ill start catching shit later

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:28 PM

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also hold on

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:28 PM

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hold on

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holding

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:29 PM

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println("Celsius: $celsiusfinal degrees") can be replaced with is it printf("Celsius: %.1f degrees", celsiusfinal)?

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which takes out the need for an extra variable

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:29 PM

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o.o

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I think that's the method?

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:29 PM

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ill try it, ty

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:30 PM

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actually I don't think printf() is a method in Kotlin

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:30 PM

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nope

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☹️ kotlin bad

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:30 PM

#

System.out.printf() still works though

#

actually hold on

#

println("Celsius: ${String.format("%.1f", inCelsius)} degrees") should work

#

probably a better way to do that though

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:31 PM

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god

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thats better

#

thanks 🙂

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:32 PM

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your welcome

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:32 PM

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"%.1f".format(inCelsius) can also be done iirc

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:32 PM

#

sounds about right

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println("Celsius: ${"%.1f".format(inCelsius)} degrees")

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Wha

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:33 PM

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even more concise

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i love it

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 7:33 PM

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There is always a way to make things smaller

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:33 PM

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^^^^

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:33 PM

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println("Celsius %.1f degrees".format(inCelsius))

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:33 PM

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https://paste.helpch.at/dilivahiji.coffeescript @ocean quartz here's the code we're working on by the way

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println("Celsius %.1f degrees".format(inCelsius))
that's even better

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just please surround it with `` lol

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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gods

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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On phone , I hate typing that char on this keyboard

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😂

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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fair enough

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Its so awkwardly placed

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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what kinda phone you got?

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Moto OP

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I think android puts it on the 2/2 page

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or is that just samsung's keyboard

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

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ye its on 2/2 for me too

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

#

same

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

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same here

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very annoying

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

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wew

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

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same with =

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

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u could prob customise it

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

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that's why you put two ` characters in then go back and put in the code

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Its on sec,
But its like-> symbols-> page change -> char-> type msg-> same char stuff again

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😂

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Ah

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Welp

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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that's why I use my PC to type a mere most of the time

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Welp electricity just came back on rn

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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nice

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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@old wyvern

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I have been sitting in darkness for 1.5 hours

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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How I could create a ticket?

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I need help

loud gyroBOT May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Theres not time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

#

What ticket?

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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support i think

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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For?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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go in to one of the support channels and ask your question

#

simples

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

#

I bought DeluxeQueues recently

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

#

Oh

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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We don't have a ticket system, just ask your question

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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and I have some problems

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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no ticket system

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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What if you do fun Double.inCelcius(): Double = (this - 32) * 5/9 then "Celsius %.1f degrees".format(farrenheight.inCelcius())?

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Ah ok

#

So where I can ask the question?

old wyvern May 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Link your spigot and u get access to the specific channel I think

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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@ocean quartz :bigbrain:

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why no third-party emojis smh

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Only boosters can

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Hey matt

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:39 PM

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okay

#

bigbrain

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Oh nice xD

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:39 PM

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that's better

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:39 PM

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lmao

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:39 PM

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#spigot-linking to verify DeluxeQueues then ull get access to the channel @obtuse gale

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:39 PM

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that one's from TSC by the way

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Alright thanks

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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what's Deluxe Queues lol

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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glares plugins

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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ah okay

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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google /shrug

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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aren't all of glare's plugins open-source?

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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freemium ye

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not sure about queues tho actually

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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you basically pay for the support and to support the dev

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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yup

hot hull May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Queues ain't iirc

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Where I can found my id of spigotmc?

hot hull May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Url

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

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I already putted the discord in

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

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ik guilds and VP is freemium

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

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On your profile, it's the number after your name on the URL

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

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also how tf did you manage to create a web GUI for LiteBans @frail glade

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

#

neprez_.331402

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this is?

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

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Yeah

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

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I'm not asking how you did it I'm asking how you put up with the API

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:41 PM

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thanks !

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:42 PM

#

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/litebans-material-ui.46648/ also that image at the top isn't dark theme compatible smh

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

Litebans Material UI

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:43 PM

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That's a fork of the original. I haven't updated it in a year or two since I fell out of web development.

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Not sure if it still works.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:43 PM

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ah okay

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I already linked my id

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I just found the original design boring so I put a twist on it and made it a kind of stand-aline site.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:43 PM

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just curious though, have you seen LiteBans' API?

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Not for a few years

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

#

Now Where I should go to ask for DeluxeQueues plugin

#

?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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trust me, it probably hasn't got any better

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Nicoo, when did u buy DQ?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:44 PM

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https://gitlab.com/ruany/LiteBansAPI

Executing raw queries
Requires you to execute said queries asynchronously

GitLab

Ruan / LiteBansAPI

Official LiteBans API repo, wiki and issue tracker.

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I bought it 5 minutes ago

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or 10

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:45 PM

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ull need to wait for the database to update then

obtuse gale May 28, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Idk

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xd

#

Alright

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:45 PM

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oh and as an added bonus, tells you to execute commands using Bukkit.dispatchCommand()

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:45 PM

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database can only be updated by clip / cube iirc

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:46 PM

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somebody should pin LiteBans' API as an example of how not to make an API lol

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if you can even call it that

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Don't hate on Ruan. It still works.

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:47 PM

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"""API"""

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:47 PM

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@frail glade but it's the biggest nightmare to use ever

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:47 PM

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The website side wasn't too bad

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Though I wouldn't write that in raw PHP ever again

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I'd use something like vue butt that would be harder for people to host.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:48 PM

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you write in Kotlin right?

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I was watching some videos on Vue last night and it was pretty hawt, ngl.

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I attempt to, at least.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:48 PM

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if you want a web interface use Ktor

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that isn't going to work for LiteBans though since it uses PHP

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but just when you make your own ones use Ktor

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:49 PM

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I mean you can rewrite it to not use php

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Lol

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:49 PM

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you can literally embed the web server in to your plugin so it doesn't even require a separate web server

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:49 PM

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But I'm not invested enough in that

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Idk how that got on the first page for most downloads

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:49 PM

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wait what?

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:50 PM

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It's the 9th most downloaded web resource on SpigotMC KEKW

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:50 PM

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oh and also, please research expression bodies

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🙂

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:50 PM

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hahafunny

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Last time I checked that resource it was like just barely hitting the front page

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Now we top 10

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LOL

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:51 PM

#

basically it turns this:

fun example() {
    return whatever
}

in to this: fun example() = whatever

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:51 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I'll write it in Skript if I damn well please

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I saw a lot of instances in vote party

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:51 PM

#

smile

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:51 PM

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it's a design choice

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not necessary

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:51 PM

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SKRIPT

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🤢

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:51 PM

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80% of the code had to get approved by Sxtanna

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so

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I can do some cleaning up if you want

#

I'm guessing Sxtanna is a big fan of the allman style

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or is that you

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one of the two

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or both

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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ud have to get approved by sx by the sounds of it

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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yeah

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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that might be a little difficult

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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It's Sxtanna

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:53 PM

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because, y'know

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:53 PM

#

true

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:53 PM

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that ^

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:53 PM

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It was one of the only reasons I could get him to contribute to the project

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:53 PM

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lol

#

is it you or him who's a fan of:

fun example()
{
    // do something
}

#

a.k.a the allman style

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Sx

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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imo it looks horrendous

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Same

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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most people think that

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and yet you get used to it within like an hour of using it

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Yo what's the IJ shortcut to go to the uh

#

What's it called

#

Where a method is declared?

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Made?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Ctrl + Click or Ctrl + Q

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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alt + f7?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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i believe

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Nope, thats find usages

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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POG

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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allman looks better imo but the expression body that u recommend dont look too bad either, but its too compact for me

errant geyser May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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nvm

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Ctrl + Q is documentation

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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It's been that easy this whole time

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

#

Ctrl + Click is the one you're looking for

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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My life just got a whole lot better

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Ctrl + Alt + O on your classes

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and then Ctrl + Alt + L

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O removes unused imports, L formats

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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i have noticed the high levels of shortcuts in this program.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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yeah

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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theres quite the lot

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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@frail glade running Ctrl + Alt + L is gonna make it look better lol

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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there are hundreds

frail glade May 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I'm aware of that

#

I use it a lot

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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you can configure a code style to work with ctrl + alt + l

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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👍

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 7:58 PM

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This is so dumb, discord messages will scape \n on messages, so to use it I need to do body.replace("\\n", "\n") lmao

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 7:58 PM

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.\n.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:00 PM

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also @frail glade it's your plugin, you're supposed to be the one who dictates what goes in to it?

frail glade May 28, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I really don't know what I'm doing, so I do enjoy input from others.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:04 PM

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yeah

#

if you don't want it written in a certain style though you can say you don't want it written in a certain style

frail glade May 28, 2020, 8:06 PM

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I don't really care what it's written in. I just adapt to what I have in front of me.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:06 PM

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fair enough

frail glade May 28, 2020, 8:06 PM

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For example I just recoded a forge mod today and I had never touched forge before.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:06 PM

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yeah

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 8:08 PM

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wew

frail glade May 28, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Yeah. I just mess around with code until something works for the most part.

#

If it doesn't crash, I call it good.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:15 PM

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exactly what everyone else does lol

#

and anyone who tells you they do otherwise is lying

frail glade May 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Facts.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:26 PM

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why does he use BukkitRunnable smh

#

internal fun Plugin.runTaskTimer(period: Long, task: BukkitRunnable.() -> Unit) {
    object : BukkitRunnable() {
        override fun run() {
            task.invoke(this)
        }
    }.runTaskTimer(this, 0L, period)
}

#

BukkitRunnable was deprecated ages ago

#

or the methods using it were

frail glade May 28, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Not really sure why it matters

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 8:27 PM

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BukkitRunnable isn't deprecated

#

runTaskTimer is

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:28 PM

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the methods using it were weren't they

#

isn't it recommended to use Runnable instead now?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 8:28 PM

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depends

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:28 PM

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actually there's another method

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 8:28 PM

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BukkitRunnable.scheduleTaskTimer exists iirc

#

BukkitRunnable can cancel itself

#

Runnable can't

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:29 PM

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ah okay

#

also apparently runTaskTimer isn't deprecated

#

public synchronized BukkitTask runTaskTimer(@NotNull Plugin plugin, long delay, long period) throws IllegalArgumentException, IllegalStateException {
    checkNotYetScheduled();
    return setupTask(Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskTimer(plugin, (Runnable) this, delay, period));
}

at least, that one isn't

#

also can someone please explain to me what the point of using Kotlin is if you're writing in allman style?

hot hull May 28, 2020, 8:31 PM

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You need to stop.

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:32 PM

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wdym?

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complaining or criticising others? or both?

hot hull May 28, 2020, 8:32 PM

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First dissing java, now allman, what's next the entire concept of programming?

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 8:32 PM

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dissing java is allowed when kotlin exists

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:32 PM

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^^^^

hot hull May 28, 2020, 8:32 PM

#

Sthu Kali

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

aPES_NoU

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 8:34 PM

#

also can someone please explain to me what the point of using Kotlin is if you're writing in allman style?
that makes no sense

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:35 PM

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things like expression bodies can't be used if you write in allman style

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 8:35 PM

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they may be an exception, but they shouldn't be used all the time anyway

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:36 PM

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they should be used where applicable

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 8:36 PM

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just because you have all these conciseness features available, doesn't mean they should be used all of the time

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:38 PM

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they should be used where applicable
^^^^^

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

#

tbf

#

the official code style is opening brace on the same line

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:40 PM

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where did you find that?

#

just curious

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 8:40 PM

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https://kotlinlang.org/docs/reference/coding-conventions.html?_ga=2.30215097.740388959.1590698238-208121748.1590698238#formatting

Kotlin

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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I wanna see how close to the conventions mine is

#

it's probably miles off

#

"As a general rule, avoid horizontal alignment of any kind. Renaming an identifier to a name with a different length should not affect the formatting of either the declaration or any of the usages." what does that mean?

#

tf is horizontal alignment?

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

#

&8&m----------
Hello
&8&m-------------

#

@ minecraft servers

#

thats what horizontal alignment sounds like but i aint got a clue

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

that's vertical alignment?

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

wait huh

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

idk

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

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then uh

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

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it looks vertical to me

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2014/11/why-i-vertically-align-my-code-and-you-should-too/ apparently that's vertical alignment

Terence Eden’s Blog

@edent

Why I vertically align my code (and you should too!)

There was an interesting discussion on HackerNews last week about the Linux Kernel coding style. During the discussion, I kicked off a minor holy war about whether one should vertically align code.…

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

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ye it is

#

cus the letters at the end are in the same column

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

so I'm guessing horizontal alignment is the opposite?

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

yep

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 8:55 PM

#

writing code like this:

var example = 1
var longerExample = 2
```?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:01 PM

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@jovial warren I believe horizontal alignment is like kotlin when(value) { is_A_LongCondition -> blah() short -> blah2() else -> blah() }

#

artifically adding more spaces

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:02 PM

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yeah I hate when I see that

#

you know that article I linked actually recommended you do that

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

ew

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

yuck

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

#

also is it just me or does IntelliJ like to just add a random new line at the end of say a class code block

#

class Whatever {

}
// empty new line here

#

with an extra empty line

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:08 PM

#

it does

#

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2287967/why-is-it-recommended-to-have-empty-line-in-the-end-of-a-source-file

Stack Overflow

Why is it recommended to have empty line in the end of a source file?

Some code style tools recommend this and I remember seeing some unix command line tools warning about missing empty line.

What is the reasoning for having an extra empty line?

heady birch May 28, 2020, 9:10 PM

#

Learn something new everyday

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:11 PM

#

wait that's actually recommended?

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 9:11 PM

#

thats interesting

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:11 PM

#

actually I'm reading that wrong

#

it isn't recommended

#

it's recommended to end with a \n character

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

#

thonk

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:13 PM

#

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/reference/coding-conventions.html?_ga=2.30215097.740388959.1590698238-208121748.1590698238#modifiers by standard apparently final is supposed to come before abstract

Kotlin

#

never seen that one before

#

actually I'm reading that wrong

#

nothing can be both abstract and final I'm just being dumb

heady birch May 28, 2020, 9:14 PM

#

looks liek it

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:14 PM

#

no it can't

#

it's abstract / final

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:14 PM

#

yeah I know

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

#

Does Kotlin even have final?
Where would you use it? Classes?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

#

probably

#

actually

#

isn't there something else for that?

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

#

I guess not?

📎 unknown.png

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

#

yeah

#

public / protected / private / internal
expect / actual
final / open / abstract / sealed / const
external
override
lateinit
tailrec
vararg
suspend
inner
enum / annotation
companion
inline
infix
operator
data

#

that's a lot of key words

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

#

Quite a few there that I have never used

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

#

you use final to override an open property

#

but yeah there are a LOT of keywords

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

#

get is a keyword

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

#

yeah

#

for custom getters

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

#

and so is set

#

for custom setters

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

#

for example kotlin abstract class Parent { abstract val age: Int } open class Child1 : Parent() { final override val age = 3 } class Child2 : Child1

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

#

annotation?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

#

this is where you'd use final

#

annotation class = @interface

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

#

Ooh interesting ;o
infix sounds interesting as well

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

#

infix is cool

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

#

what does infix do?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

#

you can invoke the function without parens or a .

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

#

parens?

#

()?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

#

eg ```kotlin
val x: Pair<Int, Int> = 1 to 5

#

yeah

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

#

ah okay

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

#

without infix it would be 1.to(5)

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

#

where's the infix keyword used though?

#

wait hold on

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

#

infix fun <A, B> A.to(other: B) : Pair<A, B>``` is the definition

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

#

that's like the most useful feature of Kotlin

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

#

kind of

#

it should be used with care

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

#

the absence of ternary operators in Kotlin is a little bit of a disappointment but I imagine there's a valid reason for it

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

#

if is an expression

#

so ternary is useless

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

#

good point

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

#

This is pretty cool

📎 unknown.png

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

#

alert expression body not found alert

#

xD

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

#

🙄

#

matt, what would it look like without infix?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

(1..5).rand(5)

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

Basically the one under

#

Yeah

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

val randomNumber = (1..5).rand(5)

#

I think

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

can't do you (1..5) rand 5?

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

It's not useful in this situation but pretty cool anyways

#

Yup that works as well

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

infix is what allows you to map keys to values using to

#

isn't it?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

yes

#

same with step

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

step?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

for(i in 1..10 step 2)```

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

so a bit like Python's range(start, stop, step)

#

it allows you to step up

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

#

yeah

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

#

in Java that would be for (int i = 1; i > 10; i += 2) I think

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

#

precisely

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

#

yuck

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

#

which? the Java or the Kotlin @onyx loom ?

#

I'm assuming the Java

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

ofc

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

just had to make sure

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

i think the java is similar to visual basic for that, cant really remember tho

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

and the C

#

C is exactly the same

#

that's why it was kinda easy to learn

#

until I got to static declaring local variables

#

that's where I draw the line

#

or is it global variables

heady birch May 28, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

static local variable?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

think so

heady birch May 28, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

😮

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:28 PM

#

to quote geeksforgeeks: "a static variable remains in memory while the program is running. A normal or auto variable is destroyed when a function call where the variable was declared is over"

#

so basically static declares global variables

#

actually no

#

it allows you to declare a field inside of a function

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:28 PM

#

what's that scope pollution

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

#include<stdio.h>

int fun() { 
  static int count = 0; 
  count++; 
  return count; 
} 
   
int main() { 
  printf("%d ", fun()); 
  printf("%d ", fun()); 
  return 0; 
}

#

that's an example of how static works in C

#

the output of that by the way is 1 followed by 2

#

C is weird like that though

heady birch May 28, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

Oo

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

basically static stops the variable from being destroyed when a new instance of the function it was declared in is called

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/reference/idioms.htm this is very useful for anyone learning kotlin

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

#include <stdio.h>

int main() { 
    static int x; 
    int y; 
    printf("%d \n %d", x, y); 
}

#

that one returns 0 for x and "some garbage value" for y

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

some garbage value?

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

to quote the source

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

🤔

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/static-variables-in-c/

GeeksforGeeks

Static Variables in C - GeeksforGeeks

A Computer Science portal for geeks. It contains well written, well thought and well explained computer science and programming articles, quizzes and practice/competitive programming/company interview Questions.

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 9:32 PM

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oh ty bm, ill keep it in mind 🙂

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:32 PM

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np

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I have failed, was playing around with infix to make something like val test = randBetween 5 and 10 but doesn't work like that xD

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:32 PM

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basically static variables initialise to 0 automatically

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I have failed, was playing around with infix to make something like val test = randBetween 5 and 10 but doesn't work like that xD
you'd need something more like randBetween(5 and 10) or something

ocean quartz May 28, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Didn't work either, tried as well xD

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:34 PM

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infix has to be between 2 values

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you'd need something more like randBetween(5 and 10) or something
this should in theory work

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although and already exists

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for bitwise and

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:34 PM

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yeah

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also, https://kotlinlang.org/docs/reference/coding-conventions.html?_ga=2.30215097.740388959.1590698238-208121748.1590698238#function-formatting

Kotlin

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"Prefer using an expression body for functions with the body consisting of a single expression."

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:36 PM

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indeed

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:37 PM

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isn't the entirety of Kotlin built around fixing Java's problems?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:37 PM

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that was the original purpose

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:37 PM

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yeah

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:37 PM

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java with less boilerplate but faster than groovy and scala

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it's grown since then tho

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:37 PM

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has it achieved that?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:37 PM

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absolutely

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:38 PM

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isn't scala another java-based language?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:38 PM

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yeah

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scala, groovy, kotlin, clojure are the main 4 non-java JVM languages

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:38 PM

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also isn't Kotlin built around conciseness then if it's purpose is to remove Java's boilerplate?

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:39 PM

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to some degree

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concise while still maintaining clarity

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:39 PM

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compact yet easy to read

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yeah

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:41 PM

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for example getters and setters are completely useless when you think about them

onyx loom May 28, 2020, 9:41 PM

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thinking intensifies

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:41 PM

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yeah

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:42 PM

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and if you need anything fancy that's what the get and set keywords are for

jovial warren May 28, 2020, 9:42 PM

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all they do is stop you editing the actual value

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there's definitely a reason for it

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can't remember what it is though

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11071407/advantage-of-set-and-get-methods-vs-public-variable

Stack Overflow

Advantage of set and get methods vs public variable

Possible Duplicate:
Why use getters and setters?
Is there any advantage to making methods to access private variables in your class instead of making the variable public?

For example is the s...

prisma wave May 28, 2020, 9:43 PM

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if you don't want the value edited you just make it a val