trying to figure out delayed actions first
#dev-general
distant sun
hot hull
I'm on this version, any never or? 1.0.4
signal tinsel
@onyx loom HEY! WHY YOU STEAL MY LINE!!!!
onyx loom
oop
signal tinsel
Gaby shouldn't be too difficult
signal tinsel
DAMNIT KYLE
Wait ur no Kyle
Still same south park ref lmao
Lmao "major updates"
- That's not true
- Amazong commit names
frigid badge
@signal tinsel that would require it to become an actual plugin
instead of it being a library you shade in
frigid badge
you have no idea what you are saying
frigid badge
if you can't explain it you don't know how it works
heady birch
Just add the comments onto methods and the javadoc plugin generates it
hot hull
@twin scarab A friend of mine does, without "issues"
ocean quartz
So let me see if i understand, more big servers use paper, the bigger the server the worse is the performance, therefore paper has worse performance than spigot
That's some next level correlation here
signal tinsel
Lmao
hot hull
Anyhow as I was saying, eViDeNcE
old wyvern
xD
hot hull
@topaz bay we're gonna have to wait a bit till he can do that :kek:
topaz bay
@hot hull ?
hot hull
He got a mute
topaz bay
He already answered me?
ocean quartz
@storm latch I'm using Kotlin
I'll figure it, ty though ;p
warm hazel
Hello, can i create like with PAPI? I mean by creating a plugin for cars using papi?
warm hazel
Ye
heady birch
Well I mean it's possible
prisma wave
you want to make cars with PlaceholderAPI?
old wyvern
@ocean quartz
Found a bug with the cmd lib. The commands are not unregistered when the plugin gets unloaded.
ocean quartz
You sure they are not unregistering and not just still showing on tab complete?
Because i could not find a way to remove it from tab complete once it was there
old wyvern
Yup they are not unregistering
Maybe the Listener is unregistered before PluginDisableEvent?
hot hull
What is you using to unregister the plugin?
old wyvern
I noticed it while using bile auto drop load but seems to be the same when using plugman
ocean quartz
I'll take a look at it
Though how is the plugin getting disabled?
If you're disabling it on enable because of dependency and stuff, i suggest doing the check before registering the commands
And if it's plugman then "ugh" xD
hot hull
ew
old wyvern
And if it's plugman then "ugh" xDxD I cant restart everytime to test
I just let it autoreload on build with bile
Plus, many users use plugman anyway
signal tinsel
Anyone using github actions?
hot hull
@old wyvern Still doodoo
onyx loom
IT MEANS SHIT
old wyvern
doodoo means shit?
onyx loom
oui
old wyvern
What was that towards? using plugman?
onyx loom
oui
old wyvern
welp
prisma wave
Plugman sucks
prisma wave
The thing is plugman is fine in theory it's just very few plugins actually use onDisable properly
So you get chaos
old wyvern
xD true
heady birch
Im guilty
old wyvern
bring in the guillotine
prisma wave
Off with his head
hot hull
Off with all y'all's heads
rotund egret
Let them eat cake
ocean quartz
@obtuse gale Fixed the array argument on version 1.1.5-BETA
steel heart
The thing is plugman is fine in theory it's just very few plugins actually use onDisable properly
public void onDisable() {
onEnable();
}```afaik this should stup the vandalism
old wyvern
Lets go one step further for the overflow ๐ฝ
public void onDisable() {
onEnable();
}
public void onEnable(){
onDisable();
}```Brister AlttenAlten
obtuse gale
@Override
public void onLoad() {
if(isEnabled()) {
onDisable();
} else {
onEnable();
}
}
@Override
public void onEnable() {
onDisable();
}
@Override
public void onDisable() {
onLoad();
}```how's that
and yes I should change it
old wyvern
oh god xD
lunar cypress
void destruction() {
try {
destruction();
} finally {
destruction();
}
}
```still one of my personal favouritesfair warning this might take a while if you run it
old wyvern
a while?
lunar cypress
last time I tried it it took my JVM 12-ish minutes to crash I think
old wyvern
xD
lunar cypress
what's really funny about it is that it can't be cancelled if you run it in some thread or sth
ocean quartz
This takes me to recursive programming in school and how much i hated it
lunar cypress
I mean... this is not a very useful example of recursion
heady birch
This takes me to recursive programming in school and how much i hated it
ocean quartz
What Niall? xD
And yeah i know was just saying it made me remember the school times
lunar cypress
niall was trying to make a recursion joke, but failed
heady birch
Lol
ocean quartz
Oh xD
lunar cypress
I really like recursion
It's often a lot more expressive than loops
and far simpler in many cases
ocean quartz
I agree with you in that yeah
Though we had to do full exercises where everything needed to be recursive and it was awful
old wyvern
I had a 1 day workshop for that. The instructor just defined recursion and gave us problems
๐
lunar cypress
well, the language I'm currently using doesn't even have loops to begin with
you get used to it
old wyvern
And half an hour later he conducted a competition on hackerrank for the same
ocean quartz
We did it in C
old wyvern
๐
lunar cypress
oh lord
ocean quartz
Yup
lunar cypress
that sucks I agree
old wyvern
We did it in CSame but I asked the dude If I can use Java and he said yes so welp xD
lunar cypress
I thought that it'd be a good idea to choose algorithms and data structures for my final oral exam in a few days
So I suppose I'll have to get into some of the stuff in java again as well
hot hull
@old wyvern I'm loving these NPEs from Silkspawners, cause the spawner isn't being broken by a player, iMaGiNe A pLuGiN aCtUaLlY hAvInG nUlL cHeCkS
steel heart
who has nullchecks lol
hot hull
i Do
steel heart
noob
hot hull
Not even sure how to even retrieve the type of the broken spawner once I handle the checks..
steel heart
whats their current code
old wyvern
nUlLKolin Gang has joined the chat
old wyvern
Im surprised someone didnt bring that up this time tho
ok nvm
celebrated too soon
xD
ocean quartz
old wyvern
The Saga continues...
steel heart
lol
old wyvern
ooh theres more
steel heart
lol
ocean quartz
Hank you vor the rang
old wyvern
I have no idea xD
hot hull
No but I seriously have no idea how to even go about handling this properly
hot hull
It's calling SpawnerBreakEvent
But it's throwing an npe cause they don't know the concept of a null check
hot hull
BlockExplodeEvent
old wyvern
No explosion ahndling
hot hull
4head
old wyvern
wha?
hot hull
I'm listening to blockexplodevent, it just so happens to be that when a spawner is broken by an explosion, it throws an npe
steel heart
lol
hot hull
From ss spawnerbreakevent
steel heart
thats pog
lunar cypress
imagine having null
@prisma wave
hot hull
Not on pc anymore
old wyvern
ah rip
prisma wave
@lunar cypress lmao
hot hull
I'll show you tommorrow
prisma wave
that's brilliant
lunar cypress
yeah I love this meme template
it's so simple and dumb but really funny for some reason
hot hull
It was the quarantine man, it fucked your humour
lunar cypress
I'm afraid that is true
topaz bay
Go only has 1 type of pointer @prisma wave
those symbols represent the operation youre doing
prisma wave
Is the * like Kotlin's!
topaz bay
* is how you declare that it is a pointer and not just the type
prisma wave
Oh
topaz bay
& is how you create a pointer
topaz bay
Maybe, havent used it
prisma wave
I think it's the same
old wyvern
Yup
prisma wave
What I don't get is why you'd need to pass a pointer in this example https://img.bristermitten.me/00.11.16-2020.png
Why not just pass the value?
topaz bay
type Human struct {
Name string
}
func GetPointer() *Human { // returns a pointer to a human
return &Human {
Name: "Sxtanna"
}
}
Is it some low level string thing
prisma wave
oh
topaz bay
aka, get the value of the pointer
prisma wave
ah I see
old wyvern
& gets mem loc
- gets value at mem loc
topaz bay
yes
prisma wave
interesting
topaz bay
And the value at that pointer is assigned with the parse method
prisma wave
Oh that's kinda weird
So if I didn't call Parse() the pointer would point to nothing?
topaz bay
Yes
prisma wave
That seems odd
topaz bay
Seems perfectly logical to me?
prisma wave
Why wouldn't flag.String initialize it?
topaz bay
How does that seem logical to you?
topaz bay
Youre defining what the flag is
prisma wave
Yeah because it's not just 1 string
It has to be parsed
I see
That's actually pretty cool
So it's kind of like lazy initialisation
But cleverer
errant geyser
4head ive been meaning to ask you for a while, how do you get those special symboly things for not equals and stuff?
topaz bay
font ligatures
quiet depot
fira code
topaz bay
cascadia code has them too
frail glade
What are you making?
errant geyser
Which is best? I'm guessing that's very subjective but still
topaz bay
fira code
prisma wave
I'd say JB mono
topaz bay
I use fira in the editor, and jetbrains mono for the ide
prisma wave
It's really personal preference
errant geyser
Ok, thanks guys
topaz bay
@frail glade was that to me?
frail glade
Si
topaz bay
Im making many things right now
prisma wave
Aren't we all
topaz bay
If youre asking about the picture, thats golangmc
prisma wave
go is kinda confusing but at the same time clever
prisma wave
Idk
frail glade
Meanwhile I've been sitting here looking at the same error for 10 minutes. I think it's time for bed or something.
prisma wave
I'm still not sure why flag.Int couldn't do the parsing then and there
Probably being very dumb but oh well
topaz bay
Question
Have you used a flag parsing lib in Java?
Because this is almost EXACTLY how every flag parsing library works
prisma wave
As in for a command line?
topaz bay
Huh?
frail glade
Was doing with testing with ORM earlier and I sat there trying to fix this error for a solid 20 minutes and then I realized I was testing with Java and not Kotlin and it was requiring getters that I assumed had been generated.
prisma wave
what exactly is a "flag" in this case
topaz bay
program arguments
topaz bay
like -nogui for paper
topaz bay
topaz bay
This is from commons cli
prisma wave
I see
prisma wave
are you ok
pale shell
Have you asked it politely to work?
frail glade
Mhmm
topaz bay
One of my favourite things to do is eat foods that Im allergic to, just to be reminded of my mortality
frail glade
I have no cursed at it yet.
prisma wave
that's... Very...
frail glade
Maybe I just need Sxtanna to yell at me so I get my shit together.
prisma wave
existential
pale shell
I don't think Sx has yelled at me yet
topaz bay
I mean, theres nothing like having your throat swell nearly shut
But allowing JUST enough air in
remote goblet
Okay sx
topaz bay
NOT TOO MUCH
remote goblet
ima need your help
pale shell
Ori I'll help instead I'm the new sx
topaz bay
Don't you ever fucking disrespect me like that
remote goblet
repeatedly doing this is gonna arrow code like fuck
topaz bay
...
topaz bay
@remote goblet method references
Oh... eh nvm you use the current context
Why are you doing it like this?
Instead of using a composable builder?
frail glade
Okay here's my theory, in my abstractd interface I add a function for the name of the backend and then I do some enum thingy mc jiggy and then from there I can get the backend for the interface
errant geyser
Are you feeling ok?
topaz bay
Why not like... just make a normal enum...
topaz bay
You get the enum constant that matches the name of whats in the config
guice injection of the database
remote goblet
Okay sx
remote goblet
i have some garbage EventWaiter class
topaz bay
ngl
remote goblet
https://hasteb.in/sosoziza.java how bad is it
ideally i need to make it so there's no arrow code
or as little arrow code as possible
topaz bay
then use a builder
remote goblet
how tho
topaz bay
Whered you get this?
prisma wave
what
remote goblet
Neither do i, its so bad
topaz bay
Its literally the same thing?
prisma wave
lmao
topaz bay
just one return difference
prisma wave
what is going on
remote goblet
https://github.com/JDA-Applications/JDA-Utilities waste your time to read through that
topaz bay
stupidity
frail glade
Okay but I'm not using guice for it. So in this case wouldn't the enum just go inside the interface and then have a method to get the name and then match it to the config?
frail glade
Why not use Matts?
remote goblet
it's not done?
and i made my own anyway
so kekW
i created the exact same thing with 23 less class files
errant geyser
I thought Matt's was in pre beta or something still
remote goblet
it is
versed ridge
topaz bay
ugh... annotations
frail glade
Shouldn't this work because they are both implementing that interface?
Oh I have to make a new instance of it, duh.
brave ember
Hey so Iโm not a developer, but I am instead looking for 1 or 2. Anyone?
frail glade
brave ember
Ah thank you ๐
frail glade
Rip nvm that's not working since I require parameter stuff
ocean quartz
@topaz bay I wanted to haunt you before I got in bed, enjoy
topaz bay
@ocean quartz This is clearly bullying
frail glade
On Netflix?
frail glade
It is kinda older.
topaz bay
2005
frail glade
Are you going to go onto Project Korra next?
topaz bay
is it on netflix?
frail glade
I'm not sure.
frail glade
I figured you would.
topaz bay
frail glade
Yup
frail glade
Yeah
My show was on Netflix but it got removed 5 days ago.
I was so confused as to where it went at first.
frail glade
I don't know if I've ever seen that.
topaz bay
WHAT!!!!
Please tell me you at least know the theme
Even if you dont know x files, you probably know the theme
frail glade
There's a fly in my room. I'm upset.
frail glade
There's no windows on the floor I'm on.
topaz bay
One chance
frail glade
I have no idea because idk what you watch
topaz bay
THINK ABOUT IT
Oh nvm, fuck it.
Its game of thrones
Without the 8th season, cause fuck that season
frail glade
I never watched that.
topaz bay
WHAT
topaz bay
I fucking love west world
frail glade
I'm only on S1 tho
frail glade
Oh yeah?
topaz bay
Well it was, until one of my hoes changed it to a Genji skin
I have a 4k bluray box set of westworld
frail glade
Damn
frail glade
What are your other 4
topaz bay
In no particular order, steven universe, game of thrones, american horror story, and once upon a time
Oh you know what, Im actually completely fine with that order
That order seems about right
but west world would be before once upon a time
frail glade
I used to watch OUAT
topaz bay
I fucking love that show
topaz bay
why is sokka legit high in this episode
frail glade
Is this on Netflix or something?
topaz bay
yes, its avatar
frail glade
No
topaz bay
S2E11
frail glade
OUAT
topaz bay
LOL
Good luck
Also, if you havent seen Sense8 thats another BOMB ass show you should watch
A huge shame they cancelled it
frail glade
I saw a few
topaz bay
Its fucking iconic
frail glade
It was interesting
frail glade
Hehe
frail glade
S1E1 here we go
topaz bay
OUAT?
frail glade
Ya
topaz bay
yuuuuhhhhhh get into ittttt
old wyvern
Hmm guys, is Java web apps worth it? If so any idea where should I start?
prisma wave
By web apps do you mean like a PWA?
prisma wave
Seems like it could be worth a try
Progressive web app is a website that can work offline as well
With a few extra features
You can add it as an "app" on mobile and things
prisma wave
There's a framework for Java PWAs, vaadin iirc
that might be worth a try
Spotify is a PWA for example
So you can run it inside chrome as a standalone app rather than downloading a native binary
It's kinda like electron
old wyvern
O.o nice. Imma have a look at vaadin
distant sun
^
frail glade
How's everyone doing today
heady birch
3 billion devices run java ๐
distant sun
I swear that number haven't change in years
lunar cypress
lemme just set up my website with this cool new feature called "applets"
frail glade
๐
frail glade
Just went for a run. Going to work on some stuff for EssX today.
ocean quartz
Oh boy Denizens breaking my plugin for other people again wonderful start of the day
Why tf does it change NPC ids..
prisma wave
https://img.bristermitten.me/14.41.21-2020.png @topaz bay why doesn't this work
it doesn't run the thing
hot hull
It went
topaz bay
?
hot hull
=check @zealous wharf
compact perchBOT
zealous wharf
ffs
hot hull
I'm confused rn
old wyvern
wait for him to reply phoenix
hot hull
And you have to wait for paypal to process the payment..
zealous wharf
It was supposed to be 24 hrs
hot hull
It's paypal..
frail glade
It's been 23 hours.
If they don't release it by the time I have dinner tonight, I'll contact them.
I can't refund money I never got.
hot hull
Time to buy a lambo, make sure the bank is processing, and refund >:)
frail glade
Lol. I wish.
errant geyser
So i need you guys' opinion on this. A plugin I've been comissioned to update uses MCCORE: https://github.com/Eniripsa96/MCCore, but like, the last commit was 2 years ago so I assume there will be bugs and a lot of issues with using it on 1.15.2. Is it worth trying to use it or do I just skip it and convert all the methods the plugin uses from it into a utils class by using the Javadocs to find out what they do?
frail glade
@zealous wharf I think it just cleared.
frail glade
You can run the command yourself in #bot-commands
=spigot check
You need to link first.
old wyvern
prisma wave
@errant geyser depends on 2 things:
how much is being used
how long conversion will take.
Try and use it in 1.15, adjust for any compile-time errors. If you get any runtime errors and it's not a large amount of code being used then I'd move away from it. The GitHub page looks awful so you're probably not missing much
errant geyser
alright cheers
Now I just have to upload it to the repo kekw
And they removed their pom/build file so now I gotta hope it all builds with just the Spigot dependency
:omegaYikes:
ocean quartz
Thoughts on this?
To dynamically register commands
final CommandBuilder commandBuilder =
new CommandBuilder()
.setPrefix("?")
.setCommand("test")
.setExecutor((args, message) -> {
// Handling the command here
})
.setRequirement("#admin-up")
.setParamLimits(0, 2)
.autoDelete();
commandManager.register(commandBuilder.build());
Lovely
ocean quartz
Thought about it because Gaby suggested I do a faq command like we have here, so let's say I do ?faq create newfaq, you can't make a new command with the annotations this way, but it'd be handy and easy with the builder
A command to create commands
onyx loom
alr why am i getting an unsolved reference error ๐ฆ
prisma wave
send code
onyx loom
i got the jdk and kotlin lib already 
its literally just
main
printIn
fun main() {
printIn("Hello world")
}
onyx loom
idfk
do i need to do that rn
i was just following the getting started tutorial on kotlin website
hot hull
@onyx loom Don't start with kotlin
prisma wave
nah it shouldn't be necessary although it's a good idea
onyx loom
no u
prisma wave
@hot hull shush you
onyx loom
YEAH SHUSH
ocean quartz
Frosty, at the end you'll be the only hater left
prisma wave
kotlin is easier to learn
hot hull
You're dooming him..
prisma wave
on the contrary
prisma wave
see
onyx loom
๐
onyx loom
F java
onyx loom
ive googled it and people are saying that ive got mismatched versions or some shit
but ive just updated everything to the latest so idk
obtuse gale
Hi
hot hull
Ooof
obtuse gale
Why I have this error
hot hull
Make sure your java at 8
onyx loom
ye i am
obtuse gale
obtuse gale
My code
hot hull
You're loading a dependency outside the onEnable method Magic
obtuse gale
Method method = new Method();
public void onEnable(){
method.consoleMessageOn();
method.Files();
method.files_Exist();
}
public void onDisable(){
method.consoleMessageOff();
}
}```Am I doing something wrong
hot hull
public class Main extends JavaPlugin {
private Method method;
public void onEnable(){
method = new Method();
method.consoleMessageOn();
method.Files();
method.files_Exist();
}
public void onDisable(){
method.consoleMessageOff();
}
}
No point in putting the "method" inside the enable unless it is dependent on plugin
hot hull
Eeeee, only god knows what the Method class is
ocean quartz
method class reading that hurts
hot hull
Go away
hot hull
And those method names are hurting my eyes
onyx loom
reeeeeeeeeeee
hot hull
KM, null checks? No such thing
prisma wave
๐ญ
ocean quartz
@obtuse gale Plugin already initialized you most likely have another class extending JavaPlugin
prisma wave
@onyx loom you still having trouble?
onyx loom
yes ๐ฆ
obtuse gale
private Method method = new Method();
public void onEnable(){
method.consoleMessageOn();
method.Files();
method.files_Exist();
}
public void onDisable(){
method.consoleMessageOff();
}
}```Jesus
compact perchBOT
prisma wave
@onyx loom how did you make the project? New project > Kotlin > Kotlin / JVM?
onyx loom
indeed
ocean quartz
@obtuse gale Exactly what I said, your Method class is also extending JavaPlugin, why?..
ocean quartz
You might wanna learn a bit of Java before you keep going
Anyways that is not how that works
You need to pass down the instance of your Plugin with Dependency Injection
rotund egret
JetBrains Academy (free online course): https://www.jetbrains.com/academy/
Codeacademy (free online course): https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
University of Helsinki (free online course): https://java-programming.mooc.fi/
Basic Java Tutorials: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/
If you want some free guides @obtuse gale
prisma wave
@onyx loom go to file, project configuration, and send a screenshot of "Project"
onyx loom
project structure?
prisma wave
That's it
onyx loom
i feel like im missing something stupid
prisma wave
Annoyingly that looks fine
prisma wave
I can't vc rn
onyx loom
aww
prisma wave
But in like an hour
onyx loom
i wanted to hear that sexy voice ๐
prisma wave
In the meantime I'd try making a gradle project
Enable kotlin and put files in src/main/kotlin
Should work fine
prisma wave
Python isn't that bad
onyx loom
ye i needed to learn it in secondary school
prisma wave
Imagine your school offering computer science ๐ญ
onyx loom
wew
still getting the unsolved reference with gradle ๐
its all there as far as i know
prisma wave
Wtf is wrong with your pc lmao
onyx loom
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
prisma wave
build.gradle?
onyx loom
i have the file there ye
prisma wave
I mean can you send it lol
prisma wave
Yep
onyx loom
onyx loom
sorry 
prisma wave
You got JDK installed right?
onyx loom
as soon as this starts working, i shouldnt annoy u for a while haha
ye ofc
i just tried updating it before coming in here
onyx loom
not really but ill give whatever it is a try
prisma wave
It's a build tool and dependency manager
We'll get to the actual semantics later
but anyway on the right there should be a gradle tab
if you click that, then your project name, then tasks, then it'll be something like "build"
onyx loom
yep
prisma wave
Double click build
and tell me if it works
because that'll narrow it down to being a problem with intellij if it does
onyx loom
still unsolved reference
prisma wave
ok plan b
Go terminal at the bottom
then type gradlew.bat build
if that works then intellij is being dumb
onyx loom
* What went wrong:
Execution failed for task ':compileKotlin'.
> Compilation error. See log for more details
* Try:
Run with --stacktrace option to get the stack trace. Run with --info or --debug option to get more log output. Run with --scan to get full insights.
* Get more help at https://help.gradle.org
BUILD FAILED in 1s
1 actionable task: 1 executed
well that's descriptive
hot hull
IJ releaving you from your misery
prisma wave
๐ฌ
You should delete USER_HOME/.intellij-blah after you uninstall
it'll be a hidden folder remember
prisma wave
user home on windows is C:\users\username
onyx loom
i found a .gradle
onyx loom
thats all i got
prisma wave
In the parent folder of that
onyx loom
also a .m2 folder which is maven i think?
prisma wave
yeah that's maven
if there's nothing about intellij in users/Dylan then just reinstall
but sometimes things get leftover
prisma wave
groovy is another JVM language
It's what gradle is written in, you might as well enable it
prisma wave
It might well be
onyx loom
so fukin weird if this is the issue
prisma wave
I'm running out of ideas so it had better be
yeah I've literally never seen this happen before
obtuse gale
Why is it that deluxechat is making two ranks on my IGN?
prisma wave
prisma wave
ffs
onyx loom
i create the kotlin file under src main kotlin right?
prisma wave
yes
onyx loom
onyx loom
uh wat
onyx loom
wait.
ocean quartz
And when i tell people to use -l and they do -1
prisma wave
tf
prisma wave
Bruh what is wrong with your pc
prisma wave
Lmao
Worked fine on windows for me
Back in the day
Hm
let's try something
if you back into the intellij terminal
and run javac src/main/java/wew.java what does that give?
it might need to be backslashes on windows idk
steep grove
Anyone who writes free plugins
prisma wave
idk looks like it was here https://img.bristermitten.me/21.37.38-2020.png
onyx loom
cus i went into the project structure and the SDK drop down had the kotlin sdk in there this time
whereas in my old IJ, it wasnt there
altho, the project was still using the same jdk tho
prisma wave
hm
it's actually supposed to be the JDK i think
which is weird
i hate programming
onyx loom
๐
prisma wave
at least it works now lmao
prisma wave
probably would've noticed that on pc
nice nice
you gonna start with plugins or just basic things?
onyx loom
basics is the way to go
prisma wave
smart
onyx loom
will spend a couple months makes just makin some simple shit ig
prisma wave
i doubt it'll take that long
once you know the basic stuff you can probably start with plugins
onyx loom
i have a pdf file of programs that i made in visual basic, so will just try to recreate them first in kotlin
prisma wave
sounds like a good plan
ocean quartz
Write minecraft as your first project
onyx loom
fun minecraft {
minecraft()
}
prisma wave
truly a god tier programmer
onyx loom
indeed
prisma wave
i'm catching up to you ๐
onyx loom
indeed
onyx loom
obtuse gale
Is this more efficient
consoleMessages.set(1, "(Mute v1) Going offline. Goodbye");
System.out.println(consoleMessages.get(0));
System.out.println(consoleMessages.get(1));```Then creating multiple strings value
ocean quartz
Like how?
prisma wave
that's not really how it works
ArrayList will actually use slightly more memory because object headers
ocean quartz
I don't understand why you'd need to put them in a list then get from the list, sounds like just adding more to do nothing
And i don't know what you meant by
Then creating multiple strings value
obtuse gale
I know that but it is more efficient
prisma wave
in what way?
obtuse gale
Isn't it?
prisma wave
"efficient" could mean anything
it's not faster, and it's not more memory efficient
what else is there?
ocean quartz
You gave us one example, give use the other one and we'll tell which one is better
prisma wave
readLine()?
onyx loom
๐
prisma wave
but they're quite long lines
onyx loom
peasants
onyx loom
pfff
ocean quartz
Ayyy that's a start
ocean quartz
Now to actually implement it correctly now that I know it works xD
steel heart
lol
prisma wave
\n?
onyx loom
ye
onyx loom
just finished my sesh for today. so far kotlin has gave me a fat boner
onyx loom
exactly
obtuse gale
guys need help
well let me tell you what i did
i was configuring my skywars
and i went to my folders and decompressed an old backup
but it replaced all my config
i loose all
is there a command to make a rollback in files time ?
mute.add(player.getUniqueId().toString());
player.sendMessage(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', "&bYou are muted"));
config.set("player" + "." + "UUID", player.getUniqueId().toString());
saveConfig();
return true;
}
if (command.getName().equalsIgnoreCase("unmute") && mute.contains(player.getUniqueId().toString())){
player.sendMessage(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', "&bYou are unmuted"));
mute.remove(player.getUniqueId().toString());
saveResource("config.yml", true);
return true;
}```How do I like
Remove a player uuid from the config
lunar cypress
\r
lol
wtf
as I sent that message discord updated this channel with 100 new messages
pale shell
just finished my sesh for today. so far kotlin has gave me a fat boner
@onyx loom java can do better ;)
prisma wave
objectively false
prisma wave
it's not in the least bit true
ocean quartz
No one uses Java right, and that's the problem
prisma wave
i'm not sure you can use it right
lunar cypress
I had a discussion with someone recently who said that mutable objects in Java are not the default and that you can use it as a functional language
lunar cypress
as an example they mentioned newer standard library apis that are mostly immutable
like java.time
prisma wave
in what way does that mean it's the default lmao
lunar cypress
idk. I was quite confused as well
prisma wave
that person is an idiot
prisma wave
@pale shell supposedly things are immutable by default in java which is absolutely untrue
lunar cypress
What is a class but a curried function?
lunar cypress
I still don't quite get that one
lunar cypress
Classes (and by extension, inheritance hierarchies) and curried functions are really not that different. They exist to encapsulate some state or behavior within a context.
lunar cypress
It was a civil discussion and no offence was taken, lol
but it's still rather far fetched
to say the least
prisma wave
what I don't understand
is how they actually know what curried functions are and yet they somehow got it completely wrong
lunar cypress
well
I think they try to super impose something on the languages they're forced to use lol
To my question
Why not use a language that embraces those concepts naturally, i.e. a functional one?
They answered
Because, sadly, that's not what I get paid to use ๐ฆ
prisma wave
poor guy
lunar cypress
ok, I have more interesting programming language takes
lunar cypress
This one was under a thread about concurrency models, especially coroutines and how they work in different languages, with some focus on go
prisma wave
ooh go
lunar cypress
Go does things that have been done before but with new terminology for marketing purposes. I really can't stand Go.
This. I also hate that there are so many languages taking bad ideas from it, the identifier : type = value; thing is especially annoying.
I mean the first one is a fair opinion, I guess, but the second one is somewhat funny to me
Like, there are so many things to consider in this context and you pick this?
prisma wave
identifier : type = value; they hate the idea of specifying a type?
lunar cypress
No they don't, that's the thing
prisma wave
what do they hate about that
lunar cypress
That's a very minor detail, imo. Doesn't make a difference to type identifier = value in terms of language features.
It's arguably less readable but my main gripe is the colon, it doesn't need to be there at all. The same goes for things like -> in functions, just random symbols floating about for fluffy aesthetic reasons. This is not what programming is about.
prisma wave
ugh
one of those people
i bet they only use C and Haskell or something and think they're superior
literally every programming language uses symbols
they're not "aesthetic" if they convey meaning
lunar cypress
exactly
prisma wave
by their argument the curly bracket is useless because it could be just replaced with indentation
lunar cypress
they go on to say that func f() int {} is clearly more readable than func f() -> int {}
Which I don't even agree with lol
lunar cypress
they do