procking
#dev-general
pale shell
fricking
remote goblet
packing :wonk:
remote goblet
sx
topaz bay
please
remote goblet
shut up
prisma wave
lmao
prisma wave
you are playing with fire here
remote goblet
no
old wyvern
```Wait what?fire is kinda hot ngl 😳
remote goblet
Atleast none of us are american kekW
old wyvern
Then who are the actual native french speakers?
remote goblet
that would suck
remote goblet
nobody actually speaks french
pale shell
@prisma wave is native
old wyvern
👀
remote goblet
it's all just mind games
old wyvern
French is a hoax
compact perchBOT
prisma wave
I guess not either
remote goblet
ah
prisma wave
skedaddle
pale shell
except ranald
When I saw that I thought of something but I don't want to annoy someone in this chat.
prisma wave
@topaz bay how to do functions
remote goblet
that's why im here, to annoy people
topaz bay
@prisma wave Ive been putting it off
remote goblet
do I
pale shell
Rd M**d
remote goblet
wot
prisma wave
a route?
topaz bay
a route is a collection of commands
prisma wave
ah yes
pale shell
R----d M------d
prisma wave
Mine is just List<Statement> right now
topaz bay
pale shell
@remote goblet
pale shell
Pls say you know what I'm thinking
topaz bay
The loop command is literally a route of the expression, and the body
topaz bay
the expression is evaluated every time, and if it passes, the body is evaluated
pale shell
Dmd
topaz bay
Same with the when
it has the expression, and then the passing route, and optionally the failing route
in the case where an else block is provided
prisma wave
Incidentally with expressions does your Expression type have any evaluate() or similar? If so what are you returning? Any?
topaz bay
wdym expression type?
prisma wave
Might just be me but I've made an interface Expression that I bring the results from the parser into
Expression extends Statement and defines resolve() that returns Any
Not sure if that's a good idea or not
topaz bay
Probably not
My command type is a sealed class that has a function eval(Stack, Context)
prisma wave
prisma wave
Yeah I've got a Context too
topaz bay
The current scope, types, properties, functions, etc
prisma wave
So you have a Command type rather than Expression?
prisma wave
Yeah that makes a lot of sense
remote goblet
01001000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01010010 01101111 01101110 01100001 01101100 01100100 @pale shell
prisma wave
The Stack idea is quite clever
remote goblet
i now hide
topaz bay
Its literally how like all languages work Alex...
prisma wave
I can't remember the name
topaz bay
The heap?
topaz bay
In this situation, the Context would be the heap
prisma wave
Yeah that makes sense
prisma wave
It actually does
topaz bay
LOL
prisma wave
my comprehension of language design has increased tenfold
I will return in circa 2 days with Kotlin 2
topaz bay
It really do be like that
When I change the evaluation of name parsing to allow for assignment as expression
My brain power increased by 30%
A was a huge eureka moment
Which btw
Great show
prisma wave
That's how Einstein felt
topaz bay
If you have prime, highly recommend it
prisma wave
Oh I've not heard of it
topaz bay
Its a show about a world where all of the top minds have been living in a single city
prisma wave
Will give it a try once I get bored of programming
topaz bay
The entire lineage of all the people you know
darwin, enstein, etc etc
Theyve all been in that one town funded by the government
And crazy shits happens because of their experiments
AMAZING show
prisma wave
sounds pretty interesting
topaz bay
Its very "Under the Dome" if youve ever seen that show
prisma wave
I've kind of been "under a rock" when it comes to TV
So no
But I'll give it a try sometime
btw why would you make assignment an expression?
topaz bay
Because why not?
prisma wave
true
prisma wave
No I know
But with my limited experience kotlin seems like it's hit the nail on the head in terms of language design
I'm actually finding it fairly difficult to not directly copy kotlin lol
topaz bay
Kotlin is literally every other language in existence combined
prisma wave
And therefore any decision that isn't similar to kotlin would need some sort of justification in my current mindset
obtuse gale
sorry to disturb you but I would like to know if there is an installation tutorial (if you have to install other plugins) compared to Guilds that I would like to buy
prisma wave
An installation tutorial of Guilds?
prisma wave
You need to buy it for support
But I imagine it's pretty simple
Anyway #general-plugins
obtuse gale
I would like to know if it is mandatory to install other plugins to make it work properly
frail glade
It requires vault
prisma wave
this is not the place to ask
frail glade
And a permission and economy plugin (as vault does)
obtuse gale
oh sorry thanks
frail glade
But that's it
pale shell
No
topaz bay
shut up you
ocean quartz
So you could do num0, num1, num2: Int? That sounds quite nice ngl
ocean quartz
Uuh what have i done
topaz bay
@ocean quartz yup
Its from Go
:D
And this is the part where I actually have to implement entering and leaving scopes
ocean quartz
That's really nice, kinda wish Kotlin had it now xD
And good luck!
Also found my problem lol, the way i was checking for the commands is bad, it was checking for every message, which means it'd get the command, the send the wrong message, but that would trigger the event again and it'd repeat forever
I need to think about a regex to match exactly
topaz bay
@ocean quartz
That was actually considerably easier than I thought it would be
I've discovered, the parsing for a tuple is exactly the same as the parsing for a function call
I literally just take the routes from the tuple parsing algorithm, and turn them into the routes the function access command passes into the function route
KINDA fire
compact perchBOT
pallid gale
🧹 🧹
onyx loom
hecc outta here with that language
frail glade
Now imagine if Barry removed the XP on messages that were removed
compact perchBOT
onyx loom
huh
lilac acorn
i have create a score system
not add score
public static void addPlayerScore(Player p, int amount){
int score = 1;
score += amount;
}
public static int getPlayerscore(Player p){
int score = 1;
return score;
}
errant geyser
Well, getPlayerScore will always return 1, and addPlayerScore will ways return amount+1. Why not have a UUID, int HashMap to actually store the players score?
heady birch
@topaz bay What you think now, more consistent
Or this one, even though setGroup shouldn't really be used by api users
@quiet depot Could you advise me here alittle?
This is one of my api classes, now in the second image api users shouldnt use setGroup as it's used by kiteboard internally and will be changed anyway, they should use setGroupOverride instead
Not sure if it's better to put the group updating logic within updateGroups
lilac acorn
i can help me ?
my log :
TheBlockWinner v1.0 attempted to register an invalid EventHandler method signature "public void me.neon.theblockwinner.Blocks.onBlockBreak(org.bukkit.event.block.BlockBreakEvent,java.lang.String)" in class me.neon.theblockwinner.Blocks
I wont show the code to it but basically
splitting string by . and getting method, invoking e.g every placeholder request
prisma wave
ah yeah
heady birch
only thing that has really changed is I don't have to do getMethod every time
the methods are stored
now answer my question above 😛
prisma wave
I don't think I'm qualified enough to answer that
night cloud
can someone help me? https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/multi-language-files.439197/
gilded breach
Is there a way to remove an npc using nms from the player list?
ocean quartz
Finally fixed all the bugs ;p
Now to figure how JDA's permissions work
obtuse gale
Nice!!
ocean quartz
Ooh what about an annotation with @Delete, commands marked with that will delete the user's message instantly after they type it
hot hull
Dew it
ocean quartz
Noice
gilded breach
I figured it out, nevermind.
heady birch
Aint no api coming till I make a decision
@heady birch
ocean quartz
Hmm how do people check for permissions for bots normally? With roles or what?
remote goblet
wot
ocean quartz
Like for commands, for example command x requires x permission, i have never used JDA enough to know how that's handled xD
ocean quartz
Hmm, how does this look for required roles to run the command?
Actually that name is probably not good, it makes it sound like you'd need both to run it
old wyvern
would is be possible to use the role order?
Like if defined for "Admin", everything above can use it as well
obtuse gale
theres no way to set a default build.gradle is there?
obtuse gale
like when I make a new gradle project
since i always add in like spigot, matts frameworks, shadow plugin
obtuse gale
I use gradle
topaz bay
@obtuse gale You should be able to create a script in your gradle home
And apply from there
ocean quartz
What would you guys name the annotation to require a minimum role?
I thought about @RequireRole("role"), but what it'll do is , it'll require the user to have at least that role, which means let's say roles are admin, role, member, admin and role would be able but member not
rotund egret
@InheritsRole ?
ocean quartz
I like that, it's pretty descriptive
lunar cypress
Where is the annotation applied?
@InheritsRole sounds like something very different
ocean quartz
Something like this:
Once the command is sent, it'll check if the user has that role or any of the above
lunar cypress
Personally, I'd simply call it @Requires
I don't think there will be any confusion as to what is required
If there was, I'd use a named parameter
ocean quartz
I thought about doing something like this:
@Requires(name = "role")
@RequiresAtLeast(name = "role")
@Requires(id = "102103103101")
@RequiresAtLeast(id = "204121054040")
But i think it'd get too confusing
lunar cypress
Why not use one annotation that has multiple possible parameters?
ocean quartz
Good point yeah
lunar cypress
Well, in my command library I just made an API for this sort of stuff. Users can therefore implement their own restrictions and the built ins aren't too critical
old wyvern
Id like the annotated one above more
ocean quartz
Ooh, actually that's a good idea, have them register a permission and on the annotation get it's ID
Then they can implement it the way they want
Similar to how I do the parameter types and completions (for spigot)
lunar cypress
You can still have that with annotations @old wyvern
old wyvern
I see
is your API public?
can i get a link?
https://github.com/JohnnyJayJay/discord-api-command <- is this the one?
@lunar cypress
old wyvern
Nice!
signal tinsel
Should I learn Rust?
topaz bay
@signal tinsel HA
You think you can just LEARN the vast abyss of symbols that is Rust?
signal tinsel
lol
pale shell
@topaz bay you managed to get any of your code working yet? >:)
topaz bay
wdym?
topaz bay
I'm confused about what you're referring to?
pale shell
I thought your code always breaks?
topaz bay
??????
topaz bay
What are you talking about bruh
topaz bay
chilly jungle
Sxtanna come play mc with me
ocean quartz
Brigadier is awful I gave up on it
prisma wave
A kotlin DSL or something for brigadier would be wonderful
Java lambdas... Not so much
topaz bay
So far
Not feeling great
At all
I still dont know how to actually suggest things
nvm, figured it out
Wow... this is honestly such a fucking mess
pale shell
Get a brush and clean it up then?
distant sun
What is that for sx?
topaz bay
I'm playing around with brigadier
rotund egret
Pretty sure luck made a library for it, not sure if it makes it easier to use or not
topaz bay
They did
Its Commodore
Not that much better to work with tbh
And extremely lacking in documentation
ocean quartz
Yeah lucko's is about the same to work with, bunch of nested stuff
ocean quartz
Ayy got my permissions working
frail glade
Fancy
ocean quartz
The system is pretty similar to the other registrations
commandManager.registerRequirement("#admin-up", member -> {
final Role requiredRole = jda.getRoleById(496353695605456897L);
if (requiredRole == null) return false;
return member.getRoles().stream().anyMatch(role -> role.getPosition() >= requiredRole.getPosition());
});
@topaz bay What are you doing? Just punching each other around xD
topaz bay
Pretty much
ocean quartz
Damn people like the GUI lib more than the command one
pale shell
@ocean quartz ;D
pale shell
Idk about that sorry
pale shell
It's 4:30am idk about anything
old wyvern
xD
old wyvern
Alrighty that works
old wyvern
@topaz bay In a Claiming system, is holding all claims in memory good?
topaz bay
@pale shell now THATS interop
@old wyvern probably not?
It would depend on how you store them
old wyvern
I was currently working a system to save per claim and load when needed but thinking back I think thats probably much much more inefficient so im gonna rewrite that...
What would be a better way to load/store them?
I tried going through towny for ideas but it seems to they load all townblocks https://github.com/TownyAdvanced/Towny/blob/master/src/com/palmergames/bukkit/towny/db/TownyFlatFileSource.java
really confused with this rn 💀
actually seems towny does save per townblock but loads everything together?
topaz bay
My brain is kinda fried rn
So I can be of no help
@pallid gale when are you going to rewrite barry in Odin?
obtuse gale
whats gitlab?
old wyvern
JS
yes
thats the way to do it
xD
@hot hull Do you have any ideas about the claim management issue?
hot hull
Hmm
old wyvern
I feel like keeping all chunkdata loaded will cause issues
Maybe load on chunkloadevent??
Would that work?
hot hull
Possibly, I feel like keeping it loaded wouldn't cause issues btw (well it would if something cucked up and it didn't store)
hot hull
I mean depends how much we talking data wise
old wyvern
Hmm. Ill move to that then . Thanks man 😄
old wyvern
I havent used it yet, ill check it out. I do still wanna provide flatflat storage option tho
topaz bay
Flat files are gross
You can read from redis a million times in the time it takes to read from flat files
hot hull
Well yea, but variety usually better :p
old wyvern
I see . Id love to check it out and maybe have that as the recommended options then 🙂 . I should still provide flatfile support for people who dont have redis.
hot hull
Sx, better be fixing the thingy I showed you above
topaz bay
?
obtuse gale
@topaz bay where the hell is my gradle home folder lol
topaz bay
@obtuse gale do you have gradle installed?
obtuse gale
lol probably not
topaz bay
You should probably do that
obtuse gale
alright
when I download it will intellij auto use that? Or will it still try and use the wrapper or whatever?
topaz bay
On?
heady birch
Ok
Kiteboard has criteria
criteria:
1:
type: permission
permission: "kiteboard.group.default"
2:
type: world
world: "World_Nether"
Looks like this
Only problem is people can register their own type
So I implemented a factory interface as a kind of registry
registerCriteria("PERMISSION", PermissionCriteria::new);
But I mean I could make Criteria objects a singleton kind of
So you would register the actual instance
Like this
However then it has to access sections on the fly, I just don't know which method to go with really
eager fern
oo
heady birch
Actually better example
Top image a new instance is crreated a couple of times
Bottom one only one instance should exist
@topaz bay 😐
topaz bay
First one is stupid
topaz bay
There's 0 reason to hold a hard reference to that value
heady birch
Since config is already in memory?
heady birch
Yeah, atm the object is created per configuration
So you do think 1 object, to be used for all configs is better?
topaz bay
Yes
topaz bay
I wouldn't even make these objects tbh
heady birch
Why not
topaz bay
I would define isMet in a functional interface
heady birch
🙄
topaz bay
And define them with a factory method
heady birch
??
What do you mean
registerCriteria("WORLD", (user, config) -> user.getWorld().getName().equalsIgnoreCase(config.getString("world"));
Whats the factory method
I mean I already got a factory method
topaz bay
Thats it
topaz bay
registerCriteria
topaz bay
This is kind of a greay area due to java's SAM conversion of lambdas into the actual type
But its technically a factory method in that it does the actual object creation instead of you calling new on a type
heady birch
Yeah
I have another criteria type which is basically a container
That contains more criteria
It did load them all on object creation, but it would have to load them all on the isMet instead
obtuse gale
Do I need to tell intellij not to use the gradle wrapper when I make a new project now?
topaz bay
@obtuse gale no
heady birch
@topaz bay You sure the second way is better
It has to do alot more processing on the fly, compared to version 1 where its loaded on startup
@topaz bay
☹️
prisma wave
@topaz bay very nice indeed
@old wyvern typically hashing would use multiplication so no it wouldn't matter
heady birch
@prisma wave You gotta help me bro
prisma wave
What's up
heady birch
My criteria system
I create a new Criteria object for each config it has
It would be possible to use one Criteria object and do the logic in a method where the config is provided
Idk to be honest
prisma wave
What are you actually asking
prisma wave
Yeah I would say the bottom one is nicer as you wouldn't need to worry about reloading all of the objects
heady birch
Thats good and all
But can get difficult for some of the criteria
e.g one that contains other criteria
It would be running more logic at runtime
I guess this is pre-optimization
prisma wave
Quite possibly
You could do a compromise
Have the data empty by default but then intialize(ConfigurationSection) loads them
Then you could call intialize again to reload the data
heady birch
Thats actually worth a shot
I mean isMet is called every second for each instance
I should expect isMet to be called 10-20 times a second, possibly more
prisma wave
That seems like something you should optimize when possible then
heady birch
Even though the task is async (it probably shouldn't be) theres no point using any more resources than I need to
Thats why instances are created at load so some stuff can be cached etc
prisma wave
Makes sense. Processing async seems like a strange decision but if it works go for it I guess
heady birch
Checks permissions, world e.g it's worked fine for about a year no issue reports 😄
@topaz bay Your thoughts?
distant sun
@quiet sierra pretty sure that can be made but it's a cool idea 😮
quiet sierra
The example I made is functional
distant sun
dope
quiet sierra
Also sorry for inconsistent naming
the first example isn't consistent with the others
heady birch
Ha who wanna review my API?
quiet sierra
Bet it's gonna be bad
heady birch
🙄
hot hull
Says the guy with no pfp
quiet sierra
Can you easily read the code without any comments in 1 year?
hot hull
pfft
heady birch
There is no code to read
prisma wave
@quiet sierra are you delegating functionality?
heady birch
Just methods and classes
quiet sierra
I don't think I am
add events are added in form of a consumer, which gets called when values are modified
prisma wave
You probably should be
quiet sierra
Actually I might be yeah
prisma wave
I mean for the rest of the methods
quiet sierra
For maps it's a BiConsumer
heady birch
🤢 Functional programming
prisma wave
Are you making your own HashSet and things?
quiet sierra
Yeah I'm extending java's
prisma wave
With the same class name?
heady birch
CoolHashMap
prisma wave
You could also extend it with the delegate pattern so it works with any Set
heady birch
Don't mention any pattern infornt of me
prisma wave
Factory visitor abstract factory builder
heady birch
No no NO
quiet sierra
I've been doing java for a whilee but I'm pretty sure delegation comes a lot on C#
prisma wave
I'm not sure about c#
quiet sierra
or I'm prob dumb
prisma wave
But the general principle would be implementing Set for example, then have a Constructor that takes a Set. Then in the Set methods, do your consumer calling and call the original set methods
quiet sierra
Ah yes I already do that
quiet sierra
I just don't understand that messy english terminology
prisma wave
What terminology?
distant sun
What terminology?
@prisma wave biscuit
heady birch
Review review review http://fdps.kitesoftware.net/kiteboard/apidocs/
quiet sierra
ah the kiteboard guy
distant sun
fdps?
quiet sierra
gosh don't say that
heady birch
subdomain on that server
prisma wave
Délégation is a programming term as well as English
quiet sierra
In portuguese fdp means the same as son of a b..
distant sun
wew he even used fancy accents
prisma wave
Very fancy accents
quiet sierra
Humm YeSe
prisma wave
fdp?
distant sun
subdomain on that server
@heady birch ty sherlock but what does it mean
quiet sierra
oh god
distant sun
welp
heady birch
How the API looking?
heady birch
No
onyx loom
say it
hot hull
||YoU gOt ThAt AA yEt ?||
heady birch
There is none
Now I need to look at the new obfuscation rues
Long (eg llililililillllllliiiillliiiiillii) or illegal (eg CON1)
heady birch
@prisma wave Should I put my api classes in an api package
Atm they share the same package just in a different modules (which seems the best way)
prisma wave
I think the different module is fine
quiet sierra
https://pastebin.com/RFHtgPtX y'all seen this hello world?
It prints hello world and then does 1, 2, 3... 10
prisma wave
dear god
distant sun
distant sun
Whats x::Int = 3
heady birch
Nice
obtuse gale
gotta love testing bungee plugins
lunar cypress
Any particular reason for the ::?
prisma wave
as a design choice?
lunar cypress
yes
prisma wave
nothing specific
just thought it looked kinda cool
It could've been anything
But I was intentionally trying to not copy kotlin
lunar cypress
It's kinda confusing to me
prisma wave
what would you change it to?
lunar cypress
I mean the :: have been used for a lot of different stuff
java method references
c++ namespaces
rust impl functions
haskell functions
distant sun
now Bristten for object type
prisma wave
well you could say that about anything
each language will use different symbols for different features
lunar cypress
Idk what I'd change it to. I'd probably use type inference
prisma wave
it has type inference
well not really
it infers everything as an Int right now bc I've not figured inference out yet lol
distant sun
Question, it's ok to use Map.Entry if I need to return 2 values?
prisma wave
but if you need explicit type specification (eg method parameters) you can use ::
I'd say that's fine gaby
distant sun
I mean are there other alternatives?
lunar cypress
how does it work with print then
I mean are there other alternatives?
@distant sun designated class or an array of two elements
nothing nice
prisma wave
@lunar cypress how does what work?
lunar cypress
the statement with print also uses the = operator and you don't specify a type there
distant sun
Ye but what if the objects are different? Wont I have to cast them if I use an array?
lunar cypress
Yeah if they're different the array thing sucks even more
but Map.Entry suggests something else idk
obtuse gale
lol wtf its not letting me put my plugin in my servers folder cos it says the servers in use but
its not
lunar cypress
If java had tuples or at least wannabe tuples in the standard library this would be no problem
maybe you're already using some extension library that has a Pair class or something
prisma wave
yeah. at the moment internally it is just inferred to be a function but what I want is for print's type to be Any -> Nothing. So theoretically you could specify print::(Any -> Nothing) = value::Any -> Nothing { stdout.println(value) }
which is just unnecessarily verbose
but a function could be ```
take = intProvider::(Nothing -> Int) -> Nothing {
print(intProvider())
}
I don't really like the Nothing thing
Like, you can't treat it as a normal value if you use it to represent "no parameters"
prisma wave
yeah I haven't 100% decided how I'm gonna go about that
possibly (() -> Int) instead
prisma wave
https://img.bristermitten.me/16.15.47-2020.png performance improvements, operators, Strings, and Booleans!
hot hull
Is it though
hot hull
Yes
distant sun
I like the last print function
prisma wave
ty gaby
heady birch
16,777,216
prisma wave
16 ^ 6
heady birch
So for a rainbow effect whats a decent step
Changing 1 at a time is just gonna be slow
heady birch
Let's calcualte
Ok I'm poor at maths
rotating through all colours in 10 seconds, 20TPS
hot hull
just go up by 1 each time
heady birch
Let's re arrange the equation
hot hull
And let it rotate for like an hour
topaz bay
Gross language @prisma wave
prisma wave
mine is good
remote goblet
👏
hot hull
You did what?
remote goblet
i'm just sat updating gradle for everything
lunar cypress
You're making a tree walk interpreter right @prisma wave
topaz bay
@prisma wave Why does it take so long to parse?
hot hull
probably the *3
hot hull
oof
topaz bay
I'm fine with it taking a bit longer to actually parse
Especially since you can store the result of the parse
prisma wave
@lunar cypress i believe so. I'm using ANTLR, not 100% sure on the algorithm it uses under the hood. @topaz bay not sure tbh. My logic is a bit convoluted but not that bad. It's possibly because I have a lot of recursion going on
I could run a profiler through it at some point but it's pretty fast so I'm not that bothered
distant sun
what is that text saying "Sxtanna, Today ..."?
distant sun
ah
lunar cypress
ANTLR doesn't say anything about the way of evaluation
If you're simply evaluating the ast it spits out, you indeed have a tree walk interpreter
prisma wave
No you're right
Yes I'm tree walking
there's probably some optimisation to do but for now ~100ms is satisfactory for me
lunar cypress
Don't @ me if your language doesn't "compile itself in under 1 second" and "segfaults if you type in 1 + 2"
hot hull
@lunar cypress
lunar cypress
@hot hull
hot hull
I don't have a language, meaning I win :))
lunar cypress
@prisma wave i've done nothing, talking about v lang LMAO
prisma wave
ah yes that lovely thing
lunar cypress
They probably fixed it a long time ago but it used to segfault in the repl for 1 + 2
prisma wave
lmao
top notch programming
https://github.com/vlang/v/blob/master/doc/docs.md#pure-functions-by-default wtf they stole my idea
https://img.bristermitten.me/18.44.24-2020.png Frigga did it first
remote goblet
i would like an answer on why new java devs always use static and call their main class "Main"
prisma wave
youtube tutorials
hot hull
Shitty yt tuts
heady birch
NiallCourse highly recommend you do use the try catch smart casting alternaive
You should always call your class Main, then any developer knows it is your main class
ocean quartz
Here is an example from a video i saw yesterday
IJ is even showing that it's bad lol
heady birch
public static Boolean Allowed = Boolean.valueOf(Boolean.TRUE.getValue());
topaz bay
It hurts
pale shell
man why are scoreboards so annyoing, reee.
topaz bay
Ok?
heady birch
Published my api with the first method
man why are scoreboards so annyoing, reee.
@pale shell What's issue
pale shell
I wanna check if a sb contains something if it does add the new team shit underneath that
it currently makes a new scoreboard each time and attempts to show them both at once ;D
pale shell
I mean, i don't really enjoying doing scoreboards lol
signal tinsel
I might just make a PlaceholderAPIAPI class lmao
To set placeholders from both mvdw and papi
Cuz clients requesting mvdw all the time
prisma wave
https://img.bristermitten.me/21.36.39-2020.png this took wayyyy too long to do
signal tinsel
Lmao nice
prisma wave
merci
heady birch
Any gradle users: Can gradle still use the local maven repository?
heady birch
<dependency>
<groupId>net.kitesoftware</groupId>
<artifactId>kiteboard-api</artifactId>
<version>3.1</version>
</dependency>
what would this look like in gradle?
prisma wave
implementation "net.kitesoftware:kiteboard-api:3.1"
btw you can paste maven dependency blocks into a gradle script and IJ will convert them
heady birch
repositories {
mavenLocal()
}
dependencies {
compileOnly "net.kitesoftware:kiteboard-api:3.1"
}
what does implementation do?
prisma wave
technically the same thing
but implementation would shade it by default with shadowJar
there are some semantic differences too
remote goblet
this skyblock plugin is made
so badly
what the hell
i dont know what im reading
pale shell
What one @remote goblet
remote goblet
wot
pale shell
this skyblock plugin is made
@remote goblet
remote goblet
i made*
compact perchBOT
pale shell
I'm hated in this community so.
prisma wave
Interact in what way?
pallid gale
No one is hated smh
pale shell
I am.
topaz bay
Like does that value only accept a single whole number there?
prisma wave
yeah at the moment
remote goblet
Some people here are
pale shell
I mean I annoy everyone.
prisma wave
I'm not sure it was worth the pain just for a gimmick
pallid gale
Also let's move to offtopic
remote goblet
I wouldn't say "No one" but sure
pale shell
Alright
prisma wave
but the Binary operation resolution makes a function that calls the original function n times
topaz bay
Seems scary
topaz bay
lol
Thats pretty much how I feel about the runtime scoping
it functions...
functions
prisma wave
Scoping is a horrible thing
I will confess I copied like most of your code for scoping and context
topaz bay
YOU BITCH
remote goblet
Scoping is a horrible thing
@prisma wave exactly
topaz bay
thats MINE
remote goblet
you should always noscope people
prisma wave
it's open source
topaz bay
@remote goblet I hate you
prisma wave
What do you expect
topaz bay
Thats fair...
However, we are CLEARLY in competition here
How dare you
You've offended the gods
prisma wave
if it's any consolation I made it more imperative rather than declarative
I think
it's not a carbon copy
topaz bay
Did I make the code declarative???
Now I kinda wanna see what part youre referring to
I tried to make the code as imperative as possible for extension reasons
prisma wave
wait
declarative is with for loops and things right?
or is it the other way around
I always get the two confused
topaz bay
declarative = "telling it what to do"
imperative = "telling it how to do it"
control flow like if, else, while, for is imperative
topaz bay
writing lexer and parser code declaratively is a pain in the ass without high level language support
prisma wave
can't relate 😎
prisma wave
sounds like a pain though
topaz bay
-1
topaz bay
Kotlin should be enough proven existing software
frigga could NEVER touch odin
NEVER
:)
prisma wave
we'll see about that
I would say mine has FAR more practical features
Function multiplication for example
I've used that over 851 times in a production environment
prisma wave
HA
prisma wave
Does yours have an exponential operator? I think not
topaz bay
Oh... damn youre right
prisma wave
I think it's obvious which language comes out on top here
prisma wave
fuck you
topaz bay
I'M JUST SAYING
prisma wave
You are ignoring the facts that I am showing you
topaz bay
EXCUSE ME
prisma wave
frigga is OBJECTIVELY better
prisma wave
IS THAT SO
prisma wave
DDDD:
topaz bay
Just got the idea to write another toy language named Thor
IN ODIN
SAY I WONT
I DARE YOU
pale shell
Do it
pale shell
Who
topaz bay
She is an icon
prisma wave
nooooo!!!! It's not reached any maturity as a language so can't practically be used!!! Noooo!!!!
topaz bay
WDYM WHO
old wyvern
IN ODIN```I mean who
topaz bay
HA
prisma wave
LOAD DAMMIT
old wyvern
Odin is in Java or Kotlin?
topaz bay
@old wyvern kotlin
pale shell
Hi yugi you called me?
topaz bay
old wyvern
uh?
pale shell
You said odin..
prisma wave
oh so we're plugging our languages are we??
topaz bay
oh I need to update the readme
old wyvern
xD
prisma wave
It did
pale shell
Stop bullying Alex
topaz bay
@old wyvern yes, for now
old wyvern
I see
topaz bay
I plan on extending it to be a general purpose condition statement
pale shell
Alex I thinks I sent it
prisma wave
@topaz bay does yours have a nice syntax? I think not
prisma wave
I BEG TO DIFFER
pale shell
Sx, my language could easily beat yours! >:)
prisma wave
old wyvern
variable conditions I mean
pale shell
Alex you seen my language right
topaz bay
val list = java::["java.util.ArrayList"]
list.add(10)
push list
// output
[10]
Nope
topaz bay
When your language does this
prisma wave
that is ugly
pale shell
O fr??
prisma wave
you never sent any of it
topaz bay
STAND THEE BEHIND ME
prisma wave
Thrown
pale shell
I did?
prisma wave
You lose the arguement
topaz bay
LOL
prisma wave
Typo
prisma wave
AGAIN
pale shell
Shit up
prisma wave
2-0 TO FRIGGA
pale shell
Frigga ftw
prisma wave
pale shell
It could
topaz bay
Just saying
pale shell
I wanna see these 2 languages fight tbh
topaz bay
Once you conquer the nine realms
prisma wave
not frigga
topaz bay
Come talk to me
pale shell
have you 2 stopped fighting yet
topaz bay
Oh please... that'll never happen
You have no seat at this table
The big boys are talking
pale shell
Imagine naming a language after a marvel character