dev-general

[pale shell]

Eh?

[prisma wave]

to get spigot jars

[pale shell]

i never use that

[prisma wave]

you should

[pale shell]

how come? 🤔

[prisma wave]

doesn't need any external websites to work
installs nms into your local repo
isn't illegal
works with any version

[heady birch]

installing into local is extremely useful

[prisma wave]

https://img.bristermitten.me/15.06.59-2020.png progress 😄

and yes it is

need to make int + int = int right now

i'm resolving them all as doubles right now

[pale shell]

😦

idk how you guys make those

seems so complex

[prisma wave]

this is actually very simple

antlr does most of the work

[pale shell]

?

[prisma wave]

https://img.bristermitten.me/15.08.28-2020.png

antlr

then I just convert the generated code into nice wrappers

[heady birch]

Nice

[prisma wave]

it's very nice

pretty cool

ayy int addition works now

[pale shell]

It hurts how much they've changed the api

every method has issues lol

I mean i shouldn't complain i brought this on myself :/

[prisma wave]

it has changed for the better

[pale shell]

eh

[ocean quartz]

@heady birch #showcase

[heady birch]

😄

[prisma wave]

destroy it

[pale shell]

@ocean quartz i met the creator of that character. 🙂

[ocean quartz]

Burn it
And oh nice, used to what it a lot

[pale shell]

It's based in my town 😎

[prisma wave]

4ms for 2 variable declarations and 3 print calls

[heady birch]

hampton?

[prisma wave]

not bad

[pale shell]

hapton?

no lol

[heady birch]

oh

[prisma wave]

reading, lexing and parsing takes like 120ms though 😬

[pale shell]

wanna know a fact about the studio of who made it?

[heady birch]

i thought I knew them

began with A

[pale shell]

their original studio burnt down so they had to move to the other side of the city 😦

[hot hull]

Thank you @ocean quartz that img will be used good

[pale shell]

Aardman Animations 😉

[ocean quartz]

You're very welcome, i have a bunch of those for every situation

[obtuse gale]

Question:
Basically my current problem is the discord invite manager that shows how many people joined from each invite is kinda a pain in the ass, cos I cant name the invites, and i forget what invites which, what would the best solution be in a bot?

[heady birch]

thats it

[pale shell]

I wish there was a easier way to move my project to 1.14 😬

[ocean quartz]

Imma join you guys in the new language thingy

[pale shell]

I've "updated" to 1.14. Now where's the god damn errors at.

Something defo ain't right here. 🤔 no errors.

[prisma wave]

go for it @ocean quartz

[pale shell]

@prisma wave https://i.imgur.com/LyKj0ED.png

all working (I think) 😉

[prisma wave]

Nice

[ocean quartz]

Well that's a start

[prisma wave]

That's step 1 lol

[pale shell]

Apart from the gui shit

[prisma wave]

I guess maybe step 0.5

[ocean quartz]

More like step 0 xD

[prisma wave]

it's better than nothing

[pale shell]

If i could work out how to sort out menus we should be gucci

[prisma wave]

we have given many suggestions

Apply one of them

profit

[pale shell]

Would slots work? 🤔

[prisma wave]

it's not a very elegant solution but yes

[pale shell]

there's a elegent option?

[prisma wave]

yes

[pale shell]

spigot never has elegent lol. Always rough af.

[pale shell]

Encapsulating is hard?

[prisma wave]

encapsulating the Inventory state is elegant

not particularly

Conclure literally showed you how to do it

[pale shell]

https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/165129131770511360/710502053251645479

right?

[prisma wave]

yes

[pale shell]

Would that go within the command and stuff?

[prisma wave]

no

Inside its own class

SRP

[pale shell]

Single Responsibility Principle

😉

[prisma wave]

Principle

But yes

the inventory should be inside its own class

[pale shell]

ah

time to rework all the inventories then

[prisma wave]

yes

[pale shell]

and i have a lot of them too 😬

[prisma wave]

then 1 instance per open Inventory

Just rewrite

[pale shell]

or use fluency?

[ocean quartz]

Oh boy, time to figure out a lexer

[prisma wave]

use ANTLR for lexing and parsing

makes it a lot easier

@pale shell that's also an option. Matt has a GUI Lib too

[ocean quartz]

Ooh gonna give it a shot ty

[prisma wave]

np

The most difficult part is getting intellij to recognise the generated classes lmao

[pale shell]

I'm just trying matt's lib to see if this works! 😄

oh damn 👀

@prisma wave is it normal for shadowJar to take ages?

[prisma wave]

how long is ages

[heady birch]

no

[pale shell]

27s

[heady birch]

unless your shading in the whole of spigot or something

[prisma wave]

it should take like 10 seconds max

and that's with a lot of libraries

[pale shell]

😦

am i doing something wrong then?

[prisma wave]

depends what you're shading

[pale shell]

I'm trying to shade matt's thing in

now to work out how you do all this 😬

[prisma wave]

https://img.bristermitten.me/16.43.13-2020.png quick mafs

[onyx loom]

das crazy

[prisma wave]

ikr

[onyx loom]

with ur crazy technological advancements, u might aswell work for epic games to fix their launcher

[prisma wave]

they'd better hire me soon

[onyx loom]

i believe

[pale shell]

imagine if intellij actually cached stuff 👀

[prisma wave]

It does lol

Quite a lot even

[pale shell]

i mean, it's not chaching this code?

it's going through every single class even tho i changed 1 file

[obtuse gale]

i have an issue in my minecraft server and i want to ask if someone can help me
here is the crash file https://hastebin.com/pilupapamu.rb and here is the messages console https://hastebin.com/xamopomino.md

[heady birch]

@prisma wave I saw this today.. looks interesting haven't had a chance to play around with it yet https://vaadin.com/ works with spring

[prisma wave]

Oh yeah I think I've heard of that before

Looks decent

[lunar cypress]

yeah me too

wanted to suggest it once for a school project but scrapped it

[heady birch]

Looks really nice

[prisma wave]

@topaz bay how are you handling type inference?

[topaz bay]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

@prisma wave

[prisma wave]

helpful lol

my code is a massive mess

just assuming everything is an int for now lol

[topaz bay]

gross

[prisma wave]

very gross

[topaz bay]

My type system is at runtime

Things only have types once the type is resolved

like val one = 1

the property one only has a type after the expression 1 is evaluated

but when you have val one: Int = 1

one is created with the type Int

And if the expression 1 doesn't evaluate to Int, you get an exception

I would like to have 100% compile time types, even when inferred from expressions, but like... I would have to evaluate them

And the parsing system is 1 pass for now

So I can do post inference for assigned properties yet

can't*

Is that enough of an explanation @prisma wave

?

[errant geyser]

The staff team are slacking off. I submitted a role request like a week and a half ago to torture you all and you still haven't roasted me yet. Disappointed

[remote goblet]

it took like

3 weeks for mine to be reviewed

[eager fern]

@errant geyser dont complain we aint being paid

[remote goblet]

complain :)

[eager fern]

We gonna take as much time as we want

[pale shell]

They're being paid

$0.01 a year

[eager fern]

shittt dont expose

[pale shell]

Sorry terfs!

[eager fern]

😦

[pale shell]

Don't wanna cause a Turf war

[errant geyser]

Terfs I will gladly pay you $0.00 to watch you painfully cringe at the quality of my code

[eager fern]

woah

Im good 🙂

[pale shell]

woah
@eager fern?

[eager fern]

... wym ???

[errant geyser]

WOAH

[pale shell]

Idk sorry

[eager fern]

[pale shell]

I'm drunk

I had 6 shots of vodka red bull

[eager fern]

o

[pale shell]

You think I know where I am?

[errant geyser]

Honestly tho, I can't wait to get ripped a new one by u all when you finally get around to it. It'll be so funny

[pale shell]

I've been coding while drunk btw ;D

[errant geyser]

Stop now

Never a good idea. You'll come back tomorrow like "how does that even work?????"

[pale shell]

Coding while drunk is hella fun ngl

@errant geyser that happens when I'm not drunk too

I question how 99% of my code still runs

[errant geyser]

Petition to give the staff team speed so they will have to endure my torture now

[prisma wave]

@topaz bay I see, thanks

gonna need to do some serious refactoring

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave I would love to see this code

I'm gonna put Odin on GH

And I need you to not flame me

Thank you, that is all.

[errant geyser]

flame him, flame him

[obtuse gale]

@ocean quartz suggestion for your discord command framework thingy your making, if you havent already done it:

@RequiresAdmin

[ocean quartz]

It's going to have a permission base command yeah, so you can set roles and things like that

[obtuse gale]

ah

[prisma wave]

@topaz bay you would love to see mine?

Because I'm not sure that's going to happen right now

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave yes

do it

[pale shell]

And I need you to not flame me
@topaz bay did you say flame you?

[topaz bay]

@pale shell shut your whore mouth

[topaz bay]

tuple access

yayyyy

[ocean quartz]

Nicee that looks good!

[topaz bay]

Theyre also fully evaluated expressions individually

So you can do stuff like this

And this

@ocean quartz

[ocean quartz]

That is fucking awesome! ;o
Damn you're going hard on this

[topaz bay]

oh...

my god

I just realized..

All this shit I added to this language

It doesnt even have comments

[pale shell]

@pale shell shut your whore mouth
@topaz bay RUDE!!

[topaz bay]

:D

I mean, I'm just sayin

[signal tinsel]

Might add cooldowns to matts framework

@Cooldown(1L, CooldownType.PLAYER, "rankup") this is a concept I sent matt

[prisma wave]

That could be cool

[signal tinsel]

I'm probably gonna work on that

And just PR it in or smth idk

[prisma wave]

Ok @topaz bay here you go https://github.com/knightzmc/Frigga

I showed you my spaghetti code please respond

[signal tinsel]

Lol

[remote goblet]

I showed you my spaghetti code please respond
Beautiful

[lunar cypress]

hello

you left me on read haha

[violet jacinth]

does anyone know how to compile my java project into a jar on intelliJ?

[heady birch]

Are you using maven

[violet jacinth]

yes

[heady birch]

Maven view on the right

Select module expand lifecycle and double click Package

[violet jacinth]

oke thanks

and how do i do it in a normal java project?

[heady birch]

Same way

[lunar cypress]

If you don't have maven you can't use maven...

"Normal" java projects suck though

You should always use a build tool

[heady birch]

Thought he meant normal as in non-MC related

[lunar cypress]

IntelliJ has a built in artifact builder but it's not great

[heady birch]

Open project structure

Go to artifacts

Press + and select jar

[violet jacinth]

oke thanks great

[heady birch]

@lunar cypress Is it good practice to accept an Optional as a parameter to a method?

[pale shell]

@prisma wave nerd

[lunar cypress]

No @heady birch

[heady birch]

Ok

[prisma wave]

Yes @pale shell

[obtuse gale]

damn webhooks are easy as fuck

idk why i thought it was so hard

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave booooo

[pale shell]

uh oh it's Sx run

[topaz bay]

You cheated

Write your own lexer and parser

Boooooooooo

[prisma wave]

that's not cheating

it just saves time

[pale shell]

https://tenor.com/view/why-tho-though-gif-7485441

@prisma wave

[prisma wave]

why make work for yourself

y not

y

there

[topaz bay]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[prisma wave]

elitist

just because you made your life harder

[pale shell]

who angered sx

[prisma wave]

me

[pale shell]

well done

[prisma wave]

merci

[pale shell]

I'll let you resolve this then

[prisma wave]

@topaz bay your lexer probably SUCKS anyway

[pale shell]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-watching-gif-5457118

gonna watch this fight

[prisma wave]

he's not replying

this is very dull

@topaz bay answer me coward

[pale shell]

@topaz bay answer alex 😠

[hot hull]

lol

[pale shell]

frosty ping sx

[prisma wave]

this probably counts as harassment

[topaz bay]

What

The hell

It's going on

[pale shell]

alex told me to ping you

[prisma wave]

you have not answered me

I said your lexer sucks

mine doesn't

[heady birch]

I got one more API decision to make

I don't think I have the power

[prisma wave]

unlimited power!

[heady birch]

Can we talk about it?

[prisma wave]

Fine

[heady birch]

GroupUpdater method

read notes tell me what you think

[pale shell]

static 😠

[heady birch]

Yeah right

[prisma wave]

Imagine using static methods and not interfaces

[heady birch]

Couldn't be bothered to wire in the GroupUpdater

But then this wouldnt need to be static if the logic was in KiteUser.updateGroups()

[topaz bay]

My lexer is clearly supreme

[prisma wave]

Put it in there then

I don't believe it is

[pale shell]

@topaz bay i prefer alex's >:)

his one actually works

[topaz bay]

Yours is generated spaghetti code

[prisma wave]

well

mostly

who cares

[heady birch]

yes but doesnt this violate SRP?

[topaz bay]

WHAT?!??

Mine fucking works too

[prisma wave]

mine is made by professional language designers

[heady birch]

why should KiteUser have to update its own groups

[topaz bay]

😂 😂 😂

[pale shell]

no it doesnt

:)

[heady birch]

when the

[prisma wave]

@heady birch honestly I think either is fine

[heady birch]

I make this decision

[prisma wave]

you are definitely overthinking it

[heady birch]

I can never change it

[prisma wave]

make a UserUpdater interface and wire that into a KiteUser or something

[heady birch]

Actually that brings me to something

Since the method is the same for all

[pale shell]

anyone here code in Lua?

[heady birch]

Is it a good practice to use a default void in the interface?

[prisma wave]

Piggy does

Lua sucks

[heady birch]

Kind of like Sxtannas traits

[pale shell]

my friend's looking for a lua programmer

[prisma wave]

@heady birch I would avoid it whenever possible

Why lua

[pale shell]

gta v

fivem

[topaz bay]

I could kill for final methods in interfaces

[prisma wave]

Yes

[heady birch]

Yes

I could kill for unthrowable exceptions

No

[obtuse gale]

I can code Lua, but i haven't learnt it fully, especially in-built functions

[topaz bay]

@heady birch huh??

[heady birch]

?

[topaz bay]

What do you mean by unthrowable exception?

[heady birch]

joke

Bout to make my first javadoc

[pale shell]

👏

🙂

[prisma wave]

Javadocs bad kdocs good

[pale shell]

kdocs?

wadu hek

[prisma wave]

Kotlin docs

[pale shell]

o

i didnt know that existed

[prisma wave]

it's a different language so yeah it uses a different doc format

a better one too

[pale shell]

but java is better ;D

[prisma wave]

No

[pale shell]

in hell

kotlin ftw

[prisma wave]

Right answer

[obtuse gale]

wait kotlin docs is a thing

[prisma wave]

Yes

[obtuse gale]

imagine documenting your code tho

[prisma wave]

Dokka is the engine

Kdoc is the format

[obtuse gale]

documenting code is for nerds

[heady birch]

Don't even work

[prisma wave]

What

[prisma wave]

Ew maven

[heady birch]

Can't even find anything on (default-cli)

Oh

Java home wasn't set right or something

[rotund egret]

Finally got TeamCity setup, was a PITA to get setup on https
yeehaw

[topaz bay]

https://github.com/Sxtanna/odin

@prisma wave @pale shell

[pale shell]

o

you werent joking

[frail glade]

POG

[lilac acorn]

   
     int score = section.getInt("score");

this is my plugin error

in this code

i can help me ?

[hot hull]

Show the error

[pale shell]

@topaz bay that looks hella complex to write..

[compact perch]

Here's a Barry Tip Neon:

Use https://paste.helpch.at/ for errors, logs and configs. So we don't spam the discord.

We did it this time for you,

https://paste.helpch.at/okiwabukav

Barry Tip #46 · May 15, 2020, 4:18 PM

[pale shell]

yeeted

[hot hull]

It's null, so do a null check beforehand

[topaz bay]

joking about what?

[hot hull]

(Well something is null)

[lilac acorn]

    public static boolean isPlayerInList(Player p){
        section = Main.yamlFile.getConfigurationSection(p.getUniqueId().toString());
        if (section == null){
            p.sendMessage(Utils.chat("&fWelcome New Player&b" + p + " &fEnjoy !"));
            return false;
        } else {
            addPlayerToData(p);
            UpdateVisuals(p);
            return true;
        }
    }

[pale shell]

i thought you were joking about making that language

[topaz bay]

?????

Do you think I just like... made up all the screenshots I sent?

[pale shell]

yes

[old wyvern]

Odin

O.o

[topaz bay]

How...

[old wyvern]

How do you write code for it?

[topaz bay]

Wha...

[distant sun]

Sxlang

[topaz bay]

???

[old wyvern]

Notepad?

[pale shell]

notepad++

[topaz bay]

wdym how do you write code for it?

[old wyvern]

No idea

Ill try it out today

[topaz bay]

Thats a terrible idea...

Its not complete

[old wyvern]

What all exists rn?

I just wanna see

😂

[topaz bay]

https://github.com/Sxtanna/odin/blob/master/src/test/resources/test0.o

https://github.com/Sxtanna/odin/blob/master/src/test/resources/test1.o

[pale shell]

i can drink

[topaz bay]

Theres more that works ofc, but these contain what I was working on

[old wyvern]

I see

[pale shell]

ok, i will not joke around with sx about making crazy things such as coding languages.....

[topaz bay]

@distant sun thats actually a thing btw

It was called SxtLang, but close enough

[distant sun]

🙂

I like the pull thing, pretty nice

[prisma wave]

I mean it's no Frigga

[topaz bay]

LMFAO

HATTTTEEERRRRR

[pale shell]

No haters @topaz bay

[lost edge]

Good luck for anyone taking AP Comp Sci test!

[topaz bay]

@pale shell alex is a big hater

[pale shell]

@prisma wave is this true

[prisma wave]

No

[pale shell]

@topaz bay yes, but you critise everyone's code

[prisma wave]

I deny these allegations

[pale shell]

I make perfect code everytime

always up to date and it all right @prisma wave

[prisma wave]

No comment

[pale shell]

i'm on 1.15.2 😠

[hot hull]

I'm on 1.16

Beat that nerd

[pale shell]

not out

1.16, the first release of the Nether Update, is an upcoming major update to Java Edition announced at MINECON Live 2019 and set to release in 2020.

??????????????????????????????????????????

[prisma wave]

It's in snapshot

[pale shell]

Nether Update?????????

we've had that for years

[ocean quartz]

Woot woot, more progress

[prisma wave]

Very nice

[pale shell]

looks cool @grave apex

wtf how many matt's are in here lol

[ocean quartz]

Seems like 2, but not for long

[topaz bay]

@pale shell I do that cause I can

[pale shell]

@topaz bay my code's perfect so no need to critise my code.

[topaz bay]

Wrong.

[pale shell]

??????

[topaz bay]

Only my code is flawless and blessed by the gods

Look at this simply immaculate piece of code

FLAWLESS

[prisma wave]

random println

[topaz bay]

Its there to separate the executions between redos

[indigo mesa]

discord.js anyone? i just want to ask a question

[prisma wave]

Sure

[topaz bay]

IT LITERALLY IS

[prisma wave]

#development @indigo mesa

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave

Friga could simply NEVER

[prisma wave]

how does that even work

Is it just the previous statement?

[topaz bay]

I...

I just fucking showed you how

LITERALLY

[prisma wave]

That's not what I mean

I mean does it just repeat the previous statement?

Or everything?

[topaz bay]

It repeats the entire... (forgive me for this) script

[prisma wave]

Ew

Better add goto as well

[topaz bay]

Absolutely not

I added redo only because I wanted to do stuff like this

[prisma wave]

Just while true smh

[topaz bay]

Without having to make control flow statements

I DONT WANNA

Thats the POINT

Not yet at least

[prisma wave]

Don't care

ugly redo statement

To rephrase your original sentence

"friga would never"

[hot hull]

@topaz bay You have sinned, and shall be smited by thus gods!!!

[prisma wave]

Because it's a language of class

[topaz bay]

Its barely a language

Odin is clearly more mature

[prisma wave]

Not yet

You had a few days head start

[topaz bay]

You know what

Fuck you

I will make control flow

[pale shell]

@prisma wave i think I've moved over to the new system idk if it works tho ;D

[prisma wave]

Good

[topaz bay]

And Im gonna make it like Go

[prisma wave]

good

[topaz bay]

NO WHILE LOOPS

ONLY FOR

LMFAO

[prisma wave]

find

Your loss

[pale shell]

what did i come into

[prisma wave]

Nobody will ever use Odin anyway because it sucks ass

[topaz bay]

WOW

HURTFUL

WTF ALEX

[prisma wave]

Any language with a redo statement sucks

[pale shell]

@prisma wave what's going on 😬

[prisma wave]

Odin bad frigga good

Are push and pull keywords?

[topaz bay]

DUH

Thats why theyre green

[pale shell]

Why doesn't Odin + Frigga combine...?

[prisma wave]

no

Never

[pale shell]

or not

[prisma wave]

@topaz bay too many keywords just use a function

[topaz bay]

Because that would make Thor

And I dont want Thor

[prisma wave]

Nobody wants that

Tacky as hell

[pale shell]

I'll make thor.

[topaz bay]

Not too many keywords

[prisma wave]

That's quite a few

@pale shell do it

[topaz bay]

Java has FIFTY ONE

[prisma wave]

and all of them are very useful

I use strictfp on a daily basis

[topaz bay]

All of these are very useful

[prisma wave]

Just use a function for printing

Having at a keyword creates ambiguity

What if they want to print to another output stream

[pale shell]

wtf is wrong with this code ffs

i made it how it wants it to work yet error

[prisma wave]

It doesn't want anything

It's inanimate and unconscious

[pale shell]

?

I just don't get where i keep going wrong lol.

[prisma wave]

Code has no concept of desire

[pale shell]

it's that stupid key shit again

[prisma wave]

Fix them the.

then

[pale shell]

how..

it's not my fault it's made awful

[prisma wave]

What's the error

It's not made awfully

It expects a consistent format

[pale shell]

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid key. Must be [a-z0-9/._-]: Jackhammer

wait

i know what it is

[pale shell]

or do i

I swear i put as lowercase

[prisma wave]

Obviously not

[pale shell]

stupid java deleted my code ;D

[prisma wave]

Java is innocent

In this case anyway

[pale shell]

you blaming my perfect code?!

how dare you!

[prisma wave]

Very much so

[pale shell]

I sounded like that spoilt brat then lmao

[hot hull]

"then"

[prisma wave]

kek

[pale shell]

I wonder why they want it to be lowercase now

[prisma wave]

They've always been lowercase

[pale shell]

I had it in sentance case and that always worked?

[prisma wave]

Not for a NamespacedKey

The name can be anything

The keys require a specific format

[pale shell]

lowercase right

[prisma wave]

lowercase alphanumeric without spaces

[pale shell]

😬

Minecraft weird.

[prisma wave]

Not really

it makes sense to use that format

[pale shell]

hm

I don't think i've had a clean run at all yet, lol.

Meaning there being no errors coming from my plugin.

it fires an error from extends JavaPlugin?? wtf??

[prisma wave]

What error

[topaz bay]

I have settled on loop

lol

Well that works

[prisma wave]

That's not that bad

[topaz bay]

Except theres no break

lol

[prisma wave]

Why not

[grand hearth]

neat

[topaz bay]

Bruh

The amount of shit

I went through

To make this work

Code reuse is honestly amazing

[prisma wave]

ew assignment as an expression

[topaz bay]

I should probably add ++ and --

Maybe

Maybe not

lol

[prisma wave]

yes

do it

very important language feature

[topaz bay]

meh

[ocean quartz]

loop(count++ <= 5) sounds cool

[topaz bay]

ugh

I really dont want to though

I still dont have comments

lol

[heady birch]

Add goto statements

Add goto statements

[prisma wave]

Anakin, the goto statement is evil!

[ocean quartz]

Not the goto!

[heady birch]

I havn't used a label in java for a while now 😦

[prisma wave]

good

they are an evil thing

[heady birch]

no

if im in a nested loop and want to get out I can break label;

[prisma wave]

just don't use nested loops then

[heady birch]

😠

[topaz bay]

I used one of my first actual kotlin labels in odin

The expression parsing function is the most complex one in the entire parser

[heady birch]

what do you mean?

[ocean quartz]

Sx, how do you get the lines to show the Sxtanna, Today etc thing? I saw someone else with that enabled but could never find it

[topaz bay]

Its a plugin

GitToolbox

That feature is called "inline blame"

@heady birch ?

[ocean quartz]

Ayy nice, thank you ;p

[heady birch]

I used one of my first actual kotlin labels in odin

[topaz bay]

Its also a plugin for vs code @ocean quartz

very useful

You also get these little things that show how many commits ahead or behind of what branch your own

@heady birch Its the first time Ive had to use a label on an actual flow control statement

[heady birch]

kotlin has labels

cool

[topaz bay]

(I could avoid it with refactoring, but I want to keep this function self contained to a certain degree)

[heady birch]

Use kotlin

That is my advice

[topaz bay]

huh?

[ocean quartz]

Nice this plugin is pretty cool

[heady birch]

Javadoc is clever

]

like my api?

[topaz bay]

I could kill for setOverride and hasOverride

combine that with a getOverride and you have yourself some kotlin friendly code my dude

[heady birch]

@topaz bay Why not setGroupOverride?

[topaz bay]

Is there a different override you can set?

[heady birch]

Well i'm torn between two ways atm

Is there a different override you can set?
@topaz bay ?

[topaz bay]

Whats the purpose in specifying "group" override, if you can only override the group?

[heady birch]

Seems better in my opion

hasOverride seems alright

[topaz bay]

So then why arent the other methods isGroupEnabled and isGroupOverriden and setGroupEnabled?

They all have to do with groups, putting that in each method is redundant

[heady birch]

you got a point

but there was setGroup before

and just set wouldn't make sense

updateGroups replaced setGroup

Although i'm not sure wether i should keep it like that

[topaz bay]

I mean... I have no idea whats going on

[heady birch]

getGroup -> get

No

getGroup -> getType maybe

Infact

Judge

[random flame]

@heady birch please answer on #general-plugins

[heady birch]

I do not know, sorry

I have never used deluxe menu

[random flame]

do u know a better plugin

for menus

[heady birch]

No

[random flame]

ok thanks btw

[ocean quartz]

Himo, ask your question there, like what you need help with, people will help if you explain

[random flame]

i did

but no one answer

[uncut rain]

Hello does anybody know a cooldown plugin that goes with Papi? I want to add certain items (based on name/lore) cooldowns and it being able to display in a scoreboard or the tablist...

[prisma wave]

#general-plugins

[pale shell]

My code be like

[onyx loom]

das crazy

[pale shell]

The sad part is that's how my code actually is tho

I'm bad dev pls hire me

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave

Do I dare implement this syntax

lol

[pale shell]

Whafs that symbol?

The 2 >'s

[topaz bay]

Its called a font ligature

The actual text is >=

[pale shell]

o.o

[topaz bay]

But the font combines it to that single symbol

[pale shell]

Ooh

[topaz bay]

that one thats green is a symbol in Odin, its the return operator

Its unimplemented though

@pale shell Do you not use Fira Code?

[pale shell]

No

[topaz bay]

You should.

[pale shell]

Oh?

[topaz bay]

Yes

[pale shell]

Will it make a better dev if that's even possible

I'm amazing at coding now so >:)

[topaz bay]

Impossible.

[pale shell]

Impossible??

[old wyvern]

https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode

[pale shell]

What you mean

You saying I'm not an amazing developer?

[prisma wave]

Jetbrains Mono > Fira Code

[pale shell]

O hi Alex

You should be sleeping

[prisma wave]

@topaz bay I won't lie that seems more of a gimmick than an actual language feature

No

[pale shell]

No?

[prisma wave]

Sx summoned me

I cannot refuse

[pale shell]

He never

[pale shell]

7 fucking minutes ago Alex

That's like 7 years

[old wyvern]

malbolge

[topaz bay]

The power of writing your own parser

[prisma wave]

I don't get notifications from this channel

[pale shell]

Eh?

How did he summon you

[prisma wave]

7 fucking minutes ago Alex

As in I check it manually

[old wyvern]

https://fossbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/malbolge_script.jpg

[distant sun]

"when" it's a replacement for "if"?

[pale shell]

?

Manually?

[topaz bay]

Yes

It is

[prisma wave]

By reading the channel

when expressions are nice

[pale shell]

Eh.

Notifications?

[prisma wave]

Don't get push notifications

[pale shell]

Why

Let us ping you at 4am >:)

[topaz bay]

I could technically even make loop expressions

[prisma wave]

what would they resolve to?

[topaz bay]

A list

[prisma wave]

hm

[pale shell]

Sx, do you ever catch npes?

[topaz bay]

No

Thats stupid

[prisma wave]

Just add IntRange + map

[topaz bay]

Thats like the #1 thing you dont do in Java

lol

[pale shell]

Eh

Alex don't tell him pls

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave absolutely not

[pale shell]

Sx, would you call me a bad dev if I caught npes?

[prisma wave]

@topaz bay why not

Loop expressions seem like a gimmick too

Functions are much more versatile

[topaz bay]

Dude...

Its a toy language

Its existence is a gimmick

[prisma wave]

That was not made clear

I thought you were taking it seriously

[topaz bay]

I am taking it seriously...

[prisma wave]

Add loop expressions then lol

[topaz bay]

That doesnt mean its not a toy language

[prisma wave]

You know what I mean

seriously

[pale shell]

Lemme get some popcorn, this is fun to watch

[prisma wave]

pro language developer seriously

[old wyvern]

lets go back to goto calls

down with the loops

💀

[pale shell]

[topaz bay]

goto was the worst invention of programming

second to null

[prisma wave]

goto random()

[old wyvern]

xD

[pale shell]

Sx what about skript

[prisma wave]

you should add metaprogramming

[topaz bay]

I should make a way to interop with java

[pale shell]

Isn't that the worse invention

[old wyvern]

0:   int i = 0;
1:   System.out.println(i);
2:   if(i<5)goto 0;

welp

java has the goto keyword for some reason tho xD

it doesnt work

its just there'

for no apparent reason

[prisma wave]

lines[0] += "push \"hi\""

I think they planned for it originally but never added it

const is also a reserved keyword iirc

[old wyvern]

true

[topaz bay]

thoughts?

[prisma wave]

is nextInt static?

[topaz bay]

This would probably create an instance

[prisma wave]

Hm

[pale shell]

static bad

[prisma wave]

How would you do constructors

static situational

[topaz bay]

Would probably use the same syntax

{}

[pale shell]

I hate using static with a passion now

[prisma wave]

I tried to add Java interop for stdout as a PrintStream earlier

Didn't go well

[pale shell]

You guys screamed at me so often I'm worried to use it lol

[prisma wave]

static is situational

most people just use it wrong

[pale shell]

If it compiles it should be fine.

[prisma wave]

...

[topaz bay]

Its so easy to use static correctly

[pale shell]

It's easier to make a whole programing language than use static

[prisma wave]

Not really

[pale shell]

If I ever wrote a language, there'd be no static, no npes

[prisma wave]

no null?

[pale shell]

Yep

[topaz bay]

technically, odin doesnt have null

[prisma wave]

static has its uses though

Neither does Frigga

[pale shell]

Wait

[prisma wave]

Null causes more problems than it solves

[pale shell]

There's languages that I can use what I won't break everything?!

[prisma wave]

not having null doesn't mean break proof

[remote goblet]

Sxtanna kinda gay ngl

[prisma wave]

it just means different

[pale shell]

Btw, where did the name frigga come from

[prisma wave]

kotlin handles nulls best imo

It came from Odin

[pale shell]

Eh

[prisma wave]

I just stole the Norse mythology name

[pale shell]

?

[topaz bay]

Hes trying to be my wife

[remote goblet]

sounds offensive sweat

[pale shell]

Oh okay

[topaz bay]

Tryna make me catch a case

LOL

[remote goblet]

lmao

Sxtanna

[prisma wave]

FBI open up

[remote goblet]

why is my typing speed so slow

[pale shell]

Alex, if the fbi saw that picture they'd just backaway and not come back xd

[remote goblet]

what the actual fuck

[prisma wave]

-_-

[remote goblet]

3 errors

pathetic

[pale shell]

You know what I'm referencing?

[prisma wave]

weak

yes

[pale shell]

Wanna share it with everyone?

[prisma wave]

what now

no

[pale shell]

Why not

[prisma wave]

For obvious reasons

[pale shell]

What would Sx say >:)

[topaz bay]

Alex, you wanna see something extra special?

[prisma wave]

Yes

[remote goblet]

He'd tell you to shut up

[prisma wave]

I love special

lmao

true

[pale shell]

Sx, you should see Alex's holiday photo xd

[remote goblet]

I will always hate that Sx does allman

[topaz bay]

This is how I implemented breaking from a loop

[prisma wave]

that's somewhat disturbing

[topaz bay]

lol

[prisma wave]

why would you do that

[topaz bay]

Why would I not?

[remote goblet]

cause it's disturbing

[pale shell]

Alex the photo has gone :(

[topaz bay]

@remote goblet shut your whore mouth, you dont even know why it would be disturbing

[remote goblet]

:)

[topaz bay]

@prisma wave Its the perfect solution

[remote goblet]

you right

[topaz bay]

It bubbles up through all evaluations in that point

[prisma wave]

Exception handling slow

[topaz bay]

No its not...

[prisma wave]

@pale shell I know

[remote goblet]

I want toast

[prisma wave]

is it not?

I was under the impression that catching exceptions is slow

[pale shell]

I have a better photo I could share to Sx >:)

[prisma wave]

he already knows what I look like

I don't really care tbh

it's just unnecessary

[pale shell]

I was just joking, lol

[prisma wave]

Yeah ik

[remote goblet]

i know aswell

duh

[prisma wave]

you got me

[pale shell]

Omg, why you leak his face

[remote goblet]

i'm a rebel

[prisma wave]

it's ok the helmet is still there

@topaz bay add something cool

I can't think what

but something cool

[pale shell]

I thought we weren't sharing it..

[pale shell]

Alex I had a idea >:)

[topaz bay]

Look at that

[remote goblet]

what the fuck is that

[prisma wave]

ok

[topaz bay]

The first iteration of that loop took the longest

[prisma wave]

warm up

[pale shell]

I'm gonna Photoshop you as soldier

[prisma wave]

🤨

[remote goblet]

I look like baby :)

[topaz bay]

It did take 600 microseconds, which is way more than the normal 60

But this is microseconds

[prisma wave]

needs more optimization

[topaz bay]

So who cares

[remote goblet]

if it's not instant

who gives a shit

[prisma wave]

If it's not taking nanoseconds you're doing it wrong

[pale shell]

🤨
@prisma wave

[prisma wave]

mine takes 2ms just for a print call 😳

then again most of that is probably the output stream writing

idk

[pale shell]

Alex, can I use your language to automate my house

[topaz bay]

Its a fairly complex thing thats happening

[prisma wave]

in theory

[topaz bay]

I would be surprised if it could happen in nanoseconds

[prisma wave]

Hm

Why is the last took so much longer?

[topaz bay]

because thats the stop exception

But its not really so much longer

[prisma wave]

so it is slow

[topaz bay]

This is in millionths of a second

[prisma wave]

needs more micro-optimization

[topaz bay]

lol

[prisma wave]

the BENCHMARKS

[topaz bay]

Wow ya know...

This would technically be micro optimizations

Cause ya know... microseconds...

[prisma wave]

Double entendre

[topaz bay]

doo blah en tawn druh

lol

[prisma wave]

french is such a romantic language

Well

entendre means to hear

That makes sense

[remote goblet]

french is complicated

[prisma wave]

So is English

[remote goblet]

yes

I don't even know english

[prisma wave]

and pretty much any language

[remote goblet]

speaking whore is pretty easy

sx does it every day

[distant sun]

French its horrible

[remote goblet]

now i hide

because i am about to get murdered

[prisma wave]

@distant sun 🤬 🤬

[remote goblet]

oui

[distant sun]

Oui

[prisma wave]

@remote goblet he's a native speaker

[topaz bay]

how...

dare you

WOW

ALEX

[remote goblet]

RUN

[topaz bay]

OH FUCKING K

Whos side are you on bitch

[prisma wave]

OH hecking yes

[distant sun]

Whos a native speaker of french

[remote goblet]

;O

[prisma wave]

i will take both sides

[remote goblet]

Don't swear like that brister

[prisma wave]

Fracking

[topaz bay]

Not even french people are native french speakers

[prisma wave]

fricking

[distant sun]

Sxtanná ?

[remote goblet]

Nope illegal