Why write out the function logic when nialllang™️ can infer it from the procedure name???
#dev-general
heady birch
prisma wave
WHAT
heady birch
Your jealous now
prisma wave
what does it infer?
heady birch
You know when we use Spring repositorys Jpa Data
prisma wave
yeah
heady birch
It infers the nice methods in our interfaces
prisma wave
I was gonna ask is it like that?
heady birch
Like that, but it is capable of everything
ocean quartz
I feel like if I tried making a language it'd look too similar to Kotlin
prisma wave
it's very hard to not copy kotlin lol
ocean quartz
Ikr, like was just thinking about how i would do variable declarations and val foo = Bar() is already so good lol
prisma wave
the only way I could think of to improve it would just be foo = Bar() and the val is inferred
ocean quartz
I like having val or var though, makes it easier to read
prisma wave
indeed
heady birch
If I were to seriously design a language I'd add variable size integers and floats, as well as unsigned types
Although bet that's pretty hard to implement
prisma wave
not particularly
I've defined number sizes for mine
Int32, UInt16, etc
not entirely sure how I'll implement them
bit arrays perhaps
hallow tide
so we found something i coded at 3 am to annoy sxtanna with
the overcomplicating piece of work
ocean quartz
The naming of variables smh
ocean quartz
What about c? xD
obtuse gale
just name all your variables x,y,z regardless of what they are
simple
then x1,y1,z1, and so on
ocean quartz
Oorr you could have named it character xD
hallow tide
too long hehe
ocean quartz
No such thing as too long variables ;p
hallow tide
true
but do you think naming it characterFromStringThatIsInForLoop is a good naming?
ocean quartz
Ofc
hallow tide
very descriptive
frail glade
@chilly jungle
ocean quartz
That's really nice
hallow tide
but why do you clear 1.0-SNAPHSOT to write 1.0.0
frail glade
It's just an example
frail glade
It's like so close to being done. I just have to figure out why it's not pushing the authors correctly.
hallow tide
oh rip
frail glade
Alrighty gradle works now too
ocean quartz
Until spigot shades in Kotlin on the main jar i don't think it's worth making Kotlin expansions, that'd be like 1.6MB expansions for very small changes
Though a nice idea would be for the Minecraft plugin to have a Kotlin template as well ;o
hallow tide
hmm yeah
ocean quartz
Really wish MD would just add Kotlin to the jar already
Ayy nice, working fine, multiple prefixes, like aliases but all in the same annotation
frail glade
ocean quartz
Looking at my framework as a guide for writing this one and noticing so many mistakes I made writing it wow
frail glade
So you going to go back through and clean it up?
ocean quartz
Yeah, it's really dumb mistakes
frail glade
😛
Just got a notification that all 6 builds failed and it turns out I forgot to lint.
ocean quartz
When I looked there were 4 that didn't pass
ocean quartz
Only 2 left!
Also if I do string.split(' ') if there is no spaces the list will still have 1 index right?
ocean quartz
Oof got pretty far today in this
frail glade
Alrighty so we have a yes and no for this PR.
Yes, it can be implemented but no, not in it's current format. There's another PR coming soon for McDev which will revamp a lot of the project.
I can then rebase the PR off this and design a single creator step that can be called by the platforms
ocean quartz
So you'll have to wait, then change a bunch of stuff?
frail glade
Not too much
But the initial logic is done.
It works
Going to create an updated showcase video.
ocean quartz
Oh okay, a little better than i thought
frail glade
Alrighty, I posted a full showcase of initial testing in #showcase
I actually finished this way sooner than I planned to.
topaz bay
yes
ocean quartz
Ooh nice!
Bm showed a bit of his earlier and had some cool features
obtuse gale
I swear this is like the 5th time ive spent 20 minutes tryna work out why my plugins not working then realising i forgot to call Gui#open
errant geyser
@ocean quartz is your site down? I can't get onto it or the MF docs
obtuse gale
fine for me
errant geyser
Can you link it? I'm probably looking at the wrong page
hot hull
obtuse gale
^
errant geyser
Most of Matts things seem to be nice
obtuse gale
^
zinc warren
Any1 good with hoppers are slow?
I already change it too this
but they are still slow
quiet depot
@ocean quartz u making another framework?
heady birch
@frigid badge Or there was this I came up with earlier:
CriteriaRegister criteriaRegister = kiteBoard.getCriteriaRegister();
CriteriaProvider<MyAssignmentCriteria> myCriteriaProvider = MyAssignmentCriteria::new;
try {
criteriaRegister.registerProvider("MY_ASSIGNMENT", myCriteriaProvider);
} catch (CriteriaConflictException e) {
e.printStackTrace();
}
@quiet depot Kinda, making a bot for my discord server, so thought it be easier to have a small command system for JDA so basically remaking what i did for my main framework but to work with JDA, if it works well and people like it i might publish though ;p
signal tinsel
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY FUCKING BRAIN
ERROR 500
THIS SHIT ISN'T WORKING AND I CAN'T FUCKING FIGURE OUT WHY
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING REASON FOR IT NOT TO WORK
pallid gale
caps pls
heady birch
Haha bet your using php
heady birch
Lol
signal tinsel
oh
i am
fucking
stupid
I FUCKING KNEW it was a stupid mistake
IT ALWAYS IS
hot hull
:caps:
onyx loom
reeeeeeeeeee
pale shell
if you wanted to get values from different areas of your java project, is it better to make a mini-api?
pale shell
It's just being annoying by not sharing the values around 😄
prisma wave
don't pass values around
get them when you need to
through an api
ideally an interface
different components shouldn't know how the other components work
remote goblet
Lesson of the day: don't use - in sql
heady birch
Writing to interfaces is nice
prisma wave
interfaces are cool
pale shell
fun fact: trying to get the vault economy before initilizing it causes too many fucking NPE's to talk about.
soz.
remote goblet
these?
heady birch
Idiot
Why didnt you show that earlier
I was trying to make a similar generic method
But didnt know how to ask google
quiet depot
@ocean quartz abstract your api to be platform independent, don’t have two separate libraries that have the same function, for different platforms
heady birch
<T> CriteriaRegistration<T> getCriteriaRegistration(Class<T extends Criteria> criteriaClass);
This is what I need to figure out
quiet depot
what u tryna do?
heady birch
What I posted
quiet depot
gee thanks for the context
quiet depot
that’s cuz u can only use that syntax on ?
move it to the type variable declaration
<T extends Blah> methodName
remote goblet
okay now let's figure out how to make this command system for my bot 🤔
prisma wave
Magic
pale shell
Eh, i think i broke my plugin and I have no clue where to start on fixing it 🤔 https://i.imgur.com/qB8hrhZ.png
prisma wave
Looks like dodgy colour codes
pale shell
like what the actual fuck causes that
obtuse gale
oof
heady birch
What are you using for colour codes
pale shell
Ah
hot hull
That's what causes that
pale shell
I know what the issue is
prisma wave
1.8
hot hull
^
pale shell
no !
ocean quartz
@quiet depot Yeah BM also suggested that, i don't know if it'd be worth it though
Plus i don't really know how to make the maven modules independent like that, i guess I could look how ACF does it
and yes maven not gradle because dealing with maven central with gradle is much more complicated
pale shell
i lost the code so i hate to decompile it and it didn't decompile well
heady birch
CEO of losing code
ocean quartz
Tbh hmm, it wouldn't be that hard to make it platform independent
heady birch
I've lost 3 projects before
heady birch
Because a hard drive failure
pale shell
backups?
quiet depot
ez just deploy via maven
heady birch
I do now
quiet depot
do everything else gradle
heady birch
I have an external hd for that
quiet depot
that’s what I do for rpf, although purely because I haven’t bothered to look at gradle’s deploy plugin
prisma wave
It can't be that bad
ocean quartz
Oh yeah, i could easily have the project set with maven and gradle, one for deploying other for working right?
quiet depot
take a look at my structure if you wish
I’ve got poms in a maven folder
then gradle everywhere else
deploying is actually done via maven cli
ocean quartz
Sure thing will do
And gradle deploy plugin has one downside, it only stages doesn't release (as far as my testing went)
remote goblet
i dont know what im doing anymore
Matt
i may have to steal that command framework :)
ocean quartz
Ooh nice nice
I should be done with it soon
Gotta figure how I'll make this work with my main one first xD
remote goblet
i previously yeeted jda utilities source code in my bot
and it's such a mess to work with
Making any slight change takes forever so i might aswell just recode it all]
heady birch
Another vote:
rotund egret
Yes
pale shell
When people irl think you're good at coding and you just put on a smile knowing all the stress it brings. (:
remote goblet
Update on the command handler: I deleted it
prisma wave
a tragic loss
errant geyser
My role application hasn't been rejected yet
🤔
I just wanted to bring pain to Piggy and Glare, having to look through my awful code
remote goblet
it took a solid like
2/3 weeks for them to do it
Piggy ended up looking at the one plugin I haven't touched in a long time
rotund egret
1st one imo
prisma wave
yeah first
ocean quartz
Gonna add a 3rd option
commandManager.setPrefixes("!", "?")
@Command("test")
class TestCommand : CommandBase()
that is the best I think
ocean quartz
Easier to customize i think
obtuse gale
The last ones the best
ocean quartz
So sad to need to rewrite the bot code in Java 😢
hot hull
@ocean quartz oo that's smexy
hot hull
Yes
heady birch
I like th efirst one
obtuse gale
same
heady birch
@FunctionalInterface
interface Provider<T extends Criteria> {
/**
* Supply a new criteria instance from the provided Configuration Section.
* @param configurationSection criteria configuration section
* @return Criteria
*/
T provideInstance(ConfigurationSection configurationSection);
}
I feel I could change the name Provider
hot hull
Is that documentation on an API :oshit:
heady birch
To something more appropriate
quiet depot
what is that indentation though
heady birch
discord
heady birch
AssignmentRegistry assignmentRegistry;
//opt 1
assignmentRegistry.registerCriteria("IDENTIFIER", MyCriteria.class, MyCritiria::new);
//opt 2
assignmentRegistry.registerCriteria(new AbstractCriteriaRegistration<MyCriteria>("IDENTIFIER", MyCriteria.class, MyCriteria::new));
//opt 3
assignmentRegistry.registerCriteria(
Criteria.createRegistration("IDENTIFIER", MyCriteria.class, MyCriteria::new));
@quiet depot For my API which option do you think is best
Better to keep the registration not exposed my passing the arguments directly to registerCriteria?
hot hull
first one seems nicer imo
frigid badge
definitely not option 3
heady birch
@frigid badge Really, why not?
frigid badge
a registration is what creates a Criteria
heady birch
True
frigid badge
so you create a registration from a criteria which in turns gets created by the registration
frigid badge
AbstractCriteriaRegistration
heady birch
I kind of deleted that
heady birch
public interface AssignmentRegistration<T extends Criteria> {
/**
* Get the criteria type's unique identifier.
* @return ID
*/
String getIdentifier();
/**
* Get the criteria class
* @return class.
*/
Class<T> getCriteriaClass();
/**
* Get the supplier
* @return supplier.
*/
Criteria.Provider<T> getProvider();
}```and the registerCriteria method?
to be really honest
you are overthinking this
making it way harder than it should be
heady birch
@Override
public <T extends Criteria> void registerCriteria(String identifier, Class<T> clazz, Criteria.Provider<T> provider) {
AssignmentRegistration<T> registration =
new AssignmentRegistrationImpl<>(identifier, clazz, provider);
registeredCriteria.put(identifier, registration);
}
All the T does is make sure a user doesnt try to register the wrong types together
this way is extensible though
frigid badge
why do you need the class and the provider though
heady birch
actually good point
that was so you could get a provider from the class, but i actually removed that
so identifier and provider only would be fine
then I wouldn't need the registration class
prisma wave
not too shabby
hot hull
I'd say neat, but no clue what's going on
topaz bay
@hot hull its my language
hot hull
Yea I got that part
heady birch
pull::[Int]("Please provide a number")
topaz bay
@hot hull what do you not get then?
heady birch
😕
topaz bay
WHAT
topaz bay
I'm.... confused
heady birch
Capital P for please
ocean quartz
Isn't pull in that situation a function?
ocean quartz
Oh okok
heady birch
That is really cool though sxtanna
ocean quartz
I mean if it's a keyword it makes more sense to be lowercase
topaz bay
heady birch
bro this aint an array
one may think that is pushing to an array 😐
How are you doing it?
Written like a parser in kotlin?
remote goblet
sx ur gay
topaz bay
Theres a lexer that tokenizes the raw string
Then a typer (parser) that transforms the tokens into commands
the commands run linearly pushing and pulling values through a stack
with references to a context that stores properties, functions, traits and classes
remote goblet
sounds scary
topaz bay
Its not
Heres how properties work
It gets defined, then the expression to the right of the = is evaluated (in this case its just a single value, so the parser just makes it a literal), then the property gets assigned that value
Since the type isnt defined on the property, its none at first, but after the value is evaluated, the type is defined to Int
specifying the type gives it a value immediatly
which allows for strict typing
:D
heady birch
how you going to implement.. if/else when and all that though?
I wouldn't know how to start but sounds like an awesome challenge
topaz bay
All you have to do is think about it logically
if (condition)
if, (, bit, )
Here, I'll do it rn actually
Actually, I think I'm going to replace if with when as the condition keyword
because why not
heady birch
😕
topaz bay
heady birch
true
topaz bay
All I have to do is define more constants in the word enum
and then implement the branch of parsing for it
heady birch
I might have ago at this 🙂
prisma wave
@topaz bay when would this be thrown?
topaz bay
If the value that gets pulled from the stack is anything other than Value
Its just a piece of data that contains its type
heady birch
void restartScoreboard();
void restartTablist();
void resetScoreboardGroup();
void resetTablistGroup();
//opt 2 GroupType.TABLIST or GroupType.SCOREBOARD
void restart(GroupType groupType);
void resetGroup(GroupType groupType);
As a developer which api would you prefer to use
I dont plan to add any more GroupType values.. but..
@topaz bay @prisma wave
heady birch
bro which one
prisma wave
@heady birch the second
Open closed principle
@topaz bay so that exception would essentially never happen?
topaz bay
@prisma wave No
It happened before I fixed the command for pull
This was originally stack.push(data)
prisma wave
ah ok
hot hull
Already prepared for 1.16 eeee
distant sun
deprecated?
hot hull
yes
sullen storm
@frail glade how to make this ? https://prnt.sc/sfghn8
distant sun
nice job glare boy
frail glade
Except for the fact that I have to rewrite it again
heady birch
Sorry beta- did not mean to tag you
sullen storm
the spigot too?
distant sun
but that means we will have access to hex colors on chat? 😮
It's a plugin for IIJ, Chryster
it already has the other options, except papi
sullen storm
what is this plugin ?
distant sun
Minecraft Development
frail glade
distant sun
what
sullen storm
@distant sun he not found https://prnt.sc/sfgjag
distant sun
maybe without space, but type just Minecraft and it should show up
sullen storm
i dl it on the jetbrain website
prisma wave
nice
pale shell
ok, i'm at the point of being hella bored due to lockdown. I made myself a joke api with one event only:
private void onCrash(AntiCrashServer crashServer) {
crashServer.setCancelled(true);
}
Would it work 🤔
prisma wave
@topaz bay how did you do the syntax highlighting?
@pale shell setCancelled(false)
?
topaz bay
@prisma wave you can create custom languages in IntelliJ
pale shell
o
pale shell
better alex?
prisma wave
With a plugin?
topaz bay
No... its built in
pale shell
idk how on earth you even make the custom languages..
topaz bay
topaz bay
and parsing
onyx loom
Odin Programming Language @pale shell
pale shell
lexing
onyx loom
why didnt u tell us?
prisma wave
You start with lexing tho
pale shell
?
topaz bay
I think I might add a transpiler
prisma wave
to what?
topaz bay
Make it transpile to kotlin
topaz bay
ABSOLUTELY fucking not
prisma wave
why not
pale shell
I mean, to be i'm fucking amazing AF that sx made that language. i always see it as a super complex thing to make lol
prisma wave
It's not simple
topaz bay
Its not like its my first time making a language
prisma wave
but it's not as hard as you might imagine
prisma wave
lex, parse, run
pale shell
i always see it as something real hard
prisma wave
have you ever tried?
topaz bay
I wouldnt say its particularly hard
pale shell
I guess once you made one it's easier for the second, then third etc.
topaz bay
Its just tedious
prisma wave
Precisely
topaz bay
Once you know what youre doing
prisma wave
Lexing and parsing are not particularly difficult tasks, just annoying
topaz bay
I'd say its difficult to do it right
prisma wave
Probably
topaz bay
But it in itself, isnt
prisma wave
The base idea is simple
topaz bay
You could say the same about everything
prisma wave
True
but splitting text into different symbols isn't particularly complex
or rather complicated
With that said I've never properly made a language before
tried antlr once and got bored so gave up
heady birch
Well I mean
you can make a language parsed
Making your own compiled language, well 😬
heady birch
Lol
heady birch
Why aren't you using . for concatenation?
topaz bay
topaz bay
Why would I use a period?
heady birch
how do I reading your code know your not adding "Hello" + 5 together?
You should adopt the superior approach using a period (seen in some extremely mature programming languages, for example, PHP)
prisma wave
But does it have string interp?
prisma wave
That should be priority number 1
topaz bay
Absolutely
heady birch
Lol, I was messing with you
ocean quartz
Can't think of a good way to implement the prefix and the command in the manager ugh
solemn monolith
If I want to create custom mob loot tables using .json files, would I then use gson to import it? Or what would I do to import that json information?
prisma wave
probably gson would do
you could either make a DTO, or deserialize & serialize the nms objects directly (could be error prone)
solemn monolith
okay, I've seen a video on deserialization and serialization, cool! Thanks!
Would you use gson though?
solemn monolith
okay awesome
ocean quartz
Hmm, should the @Prefix annotation take a char or a string?
Do people that make bots go with prefixes like: !!?
heady birch
String
Your turning into me
Have fun
Finish your last project before its too late
hot hull
You're*
ocean quartz
Now a fun situation, prefixes ! and !! using message.startsWith(prefix) will trigger only the first one, so it'll ignore if the characters are the same
Gotta think of something else
Eh i'll leave it like that xD
prisma wave
Regex?
ocean quartz
It'd still always trigger the first one no? As !! starts with !
ocean quartz
No :/
prisma wave
I mean with the startsWith
hot hull
Get the first string, get each char, iterrate, get ! amount, ez claps
prisma wave
@ocean quartz I guess since you know it will be !!commandName you could try !{1}\w+ or something similar
but it's a bit of a hack
heady birch
You should think for two months about how you will design the solution
prisma wave
or possibly a lookahead
heady birch
then implement it and find out it misses something and repeat
ocean quartz
Got a work around it
signal tinsel
https://i.imgur.com/jm5nyZj.png
https://i.imgur.com/xSeeUoS.png The difference
LOL
pale shell
@signal tinsel i see no difference?
signal tinsel
@pale shell you ferry drunk
signal tinsel
Can't say I'm surprised
pale shell
i'm attempting to code drunk too
;D
i somehow have photoshop now idfk how that happened lmfao
signal tinsel
....
pale shell
i also have photoshop now so i can make drunk photo edits >:)
signal tinsel
Bhad idea
floral basin
@signal tinsel some people could get confused by the left and right click, you should add a confirmation before it actually performs the action
And what's the difference of removing the punishment and unbanning? Unban will keep it on their record while removing will unban and clear it from their record?
floral basin
Right
So I'd suggest adding another gui
When you try to unban or remove
"Are you sure you want to unban/remove?"
"yes / no"
Cause if you think about it, when people get familiar with things they tend to just speed through it
And left and right clicking are very similar since they're right next to each other on the mouse and they both just require a click, so I'd imagine some people (like me) would get hella confused sometimes and accidentally remove the punishment when I just wanted to unban them lol
floral basin
Yeah
signal tinsel
I have a settings GUI in the main GUI
signal tinsel
Mostly
floral basin
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 from me already then
signal tinsel
Only the GUI isn't configurable
floral basin
Do you plan in adding that
floral basin
Idk if it's just me but when I have a plugin I like to fully customize it
signal tinsel
Yeah I get the point
floral basin
Because no offense to devs but some developers choose the most horrid color scheme in the world
I like the red but for my instance I'd want it to be blue to match server colors
You know?
Or match the entire theme of the server where all staff things have the prefix Staff>
signal tinsel
Yeah
floral basin
I'm sure it's probably Hella work for you, but you could definitely make that plugin premium and make people love it if you have all that
signal tinsel
Red matches the best with the plugins purpose
So I just chose red
But I might add it
Also its already a premium plugin and released into the wild
Someone removed it from #showcase
Idk who or why
floral basin
I agree with that it's just people like to match things because when everything matches and follows a theme
It makes everything feel more clean, organised, and professional
Oh sweet
signal tinsel
Yeah
remote goblet
because it's on Songoda marketplace
signal tinsel
@remote goblet so because mods don't like songoda they remove it?
That's kinda odd
ocean quartz
No
remote goblet
it should be if its on there tho :)
remote goblet
Songoda is worse
ocean quartz
It was removed for now because showcase is getting very advertisy
signal tinsel
Ah
floral basin
Idk anything about songoda but I despise spigot
signal tinsel
Btw I actually have better experiences with Songoda than Spigot rn
remote goblet
I can't say the same
floral basin
@ocean quartz its only advertisy if you view it that way
signal tinsel
@ocean quartz I might make an imgur album for it sometime
I can post that right?
As long as its not the direct link
floral basin
People post plugins there hoping to get reviews on how the presentation is, the idea, and the entire plugin in general
signal tinsel
@remote goblet explain ur songoda hate
ocean quartz
I know i know, was just explaining why it was removed
floral basin
Because to be honest with you nobody really gets any benefit of gain from posting their spigot link in showcase lol
signal tinsel
Ori, matt doesn't care if you say why you dislike songoda
floral basin
Half the people just click the +1 and -1 because they see a bunch of others who did
ocean quartz
Nah, you can say whatever
signal tinsel
If you can't explain why you hate songoda, don't say you hate it
@floral basin lol ye
I never do that bullshit
remote goblet
Want me to show you why i hate songoda lmao
floral basin
Ya
remote goblet
Admins won't like it and i might get murdered but if you're consistent
old wyvern
O.o
floral basin
Lol the second you said that clip went offline
remote goblet
I already explained to matt some of the reasons why but sure lets throw in the rest
ocean quartz
No need to post images like that wtf
floral basin
Yikes
old wyvern
what the
remote goblet
owner of songoda
frail glade
I'd say this is pretty off-topic.
remote goblet
they asked for it sooo
frail glade
We don't need to discuss stuff like that here.
remote goblet
don't blame me lmao
floral basin
Anyways I still just despise spigot cause of MD5
signal tinsel
What'd md5 do
signal tinsel
What'd he do
floral basin
He just has a shitty attitude
He's in it for the money and nothing else
Also the spigot jar is just so far off from optimized but that's another thing
remote goblet
Make your own then
old wyvern
wdym hes in it for the money?
eager fern
remote goblet
in other news
dry sage
@hot hull ive been using IJ for a few days now, I like this a lot better
remote goblet
lemme load up Island.java
harsh spear
how do i see all the spigot plugins on one page\
signal tinsel
not
harsh spear
Not what
old wyvern
cannot
harsh spear
do u no how to make a sentence
so your saying that there is no way i can see a list of plugins on there website
old wyvern
You can, but its paginated
harsh spear
What that mean
signal tinsel
I no no how to make a sentence
It means there's multiple pages
Long story short if they put all plugins onto 1 page the server and your computer would crash
signal tinsel
Its at the bottom of the plugins page
ocean quartz
Took me longer than I'd like to admit
Time for the most wonderful part, the arguments
obtuse gale
oooo
ocean quartz
Keep find unnecessary code in my framework as I look at it to make this one lol
Literally a block of 20 lines that could probably be removed
signal tinsel
lul
pale shell
@signal tinsel you need plugin idea?
ocean quartz
I solved that dumb code block i had with 3 lines..
obtuse gale
lol I just realised I cant even use paypal webhooks since I dont have a business account
distant sun
F
pale shell
How do people make "basic" coding languages? I wanna make a basic one so I can just learn how people do it
obtuse gale
Woahhh, how the hell did you guys add that like hint thing for when someone joins!?
When I joined it gave me a list of things I can check out
deft ivy
how would someone go about creating an image uploading server (like funnycube uses) or the custom hastebin upload server type deal?
(ping me if answer)
pallid gale
I use sharex
deft ivy
oh?
do you use the screencapture from them as well? i'm trying to use snagit for that as well
so same server but using different capturer
pallid gale
ShareX does all the capturing and uploading
obtuse gale
Hey Funnycube how'd you make it so when someone joins a screen pops up and has like a list of what you can join and stuff
never seen that before, its crazy
obtuse gale
Public server? bruhh, thats so cool
Do you have to have like x amount of members for it or?
pallid gale
Verified/Partnered/Discord Dev have access to it
obtuse gale
Ahhh, I was thinking about buying Discord Dev as well, needed some of their freedom to make my bots & server more official
pale shell
@obtuse gale buy discord dev? You mean to sell games?
@pallid gale how did you setup your sharex?
dry sage
@deft ivy https://chevereto.com/
pale shell
Idk how everyone does it
I bought a domain and a Web server and I can't work out how to do it. Also how do you host your server @pallid gale
pallid gale
its just a ubuntu server
dry sage
what are you trying to do untouched?
dry sage
you mean for a minecraft server?
deft ivy
@dry sage would that work with snagit do you think?
dry sage
@pale shell so you want to have your own self-hosted version of what ShareX does by quick access links? sorry for my confusion lol
pale shell
Like funny has i.funnycube.com or something
dry sage
@deft ivy Sorry im confused mate, you want to have a server that you can upload pictures to? like a pastebin but for pictures?
deft ivy
server i can upload pictures to using TechSmith's Snagit tool
dry sage
So you want a domain name? GoDaddy.com @pale shell
dry sage
Well VPS's are cheap. $3.50 (USD) ish on OVH.com
so you just need a website to host pictures?
pale shell
That's a portal not a website
pale shell
Maybe
dry sage
So you want to run pterodactyl and a website on the same VPS?
deft ivy
sure?
dry sage
pterodactyl and your image site
deft ivy
website was coming later on but i wanted to get the image site setup first
dry sage
Bear with me, I don't have a linux VM open in front of me so im going off of memory
okay so inside of your NGINX www-sites-enabled config.... you should be able to open a different port and have that port link to a different website. I can look for a piece of software that can host your image server but I'm not to sure about the config for your NGINX or Apache on your VPS
https://chevereto.com/ + docker looks like your best bet
deft ivy
i can probably handle the config, all i need is the software to hold the server so i can ftp transfer it to it
deft ivy
docker is already in use by pterodactyl so should be fine
dry sage
okay so try chevereto but bind a different port for your image svr
deft ivy
would you prefer chevereto over sharex?
i notice that sharex is the favorite around here lol
deft ivy
yeah?
dry sage
this is a little out of my league though. So i'm not too sure exactly
deft ivy
hmm alright
topaz bay
Wow look at that, a fully functioning program
@prisma wave
And now for the transpiler
hot hull
Imagine having to be 21 to drink :kek:
tame jolt
^ xD
topaz bay
You have to be 21 to drink in public
Your parents are able to give you permission to drink in your home at any age.
hot hull
Here it's 18
lunar cypress
16 here lol
floral basin
yeah in america its 21 or on private property with parental supervision
quiet depot
i swear to god if some poor little misinformed developer posts saying “gradle confusing” im gon rage
hot hull
And I quote PiggyPiglet - "gradle confusing"
heady birch
piggy fancy helping me a little?
distant sun
ManaDrop sounds cool 😮
lunar cypress
Gradle is complex and confusing
99% of its users copy their build configurations from somewhere and have a hard time doing own stuff independently
Including myself
distant sun
for real haha
hot hull
Gaby
distant sun
Frosty
hot hull
You got plans on adding those delays already or am I seriously gonna have to put a lil effort into it
rotund egret
I started using blossom with gradle, and it's been so nice
distant sun
I will look into it this weekend, I want to make it not create a new runnable every time and such
rotund egret
I don't have to specify versions in two spots anymore
distant sun
I might as well change everything xd
hot hull
I mean yea just have on runnable starting from startup
distant sun
what
prisma wave
@topaz bay what is Maper
quiet depot
99% of its users copy their build configurations from somewhere and have a hard time doing own stuff independently
@lunar cypress this applies to literally everything lmao. People copy and paste, or they learn the system, and once you learn the system, I promise gradle will seem less confusing than maven. Side note, you say 99% of gradle users copy and paste. 100% of maven users copy and paste. I’d be extremely surprised if people actually wrote their poms from start to finish by hand.
Prove me wrong, type out the xml header thing for a pom that you’d see at the top from memory
lunar cypress
@lunar cypress this applies to literally everything lmao. People copy and paste, or they learn the system, and once you learn the system, I promise gradle will seem less confusing than maven. Side note, you say 99% of gradle users copy and paste. 100% of maven users copy and paste. I’d be extremely surprised if people actually wrote their poms from start to finish by hand.
@quiet depot you missed the point. I am not saying that maven is any better
Yes, people copy for everything, but they also learn. And how many people actually learn the gradle dsl, not to mention know what exactly they're doing in their build scripts?
lunar cypress
Build tools are for some reason some of the most complex applications when they should not be
Yeah but this is not an argument lol. You can't just move the entire responsibility to the user. It should be designed in a simple way
quiet depot
you’re right, but in my honest opinion, gradle is fairly simple
lunar cypress
Look at some of the build tools for other languages. Cargo, Leiningen, ...
Those are simple, easy and great at their job
quiet depot
maybe I’m inexperienced, idk
That may be the problem, I don’t have experience with other build tos
tools*
lunar cypress
The problem is just that build tools are very important, they're integral to a developer's workflow
Optimally, they should be designed in a simple way so that beginners don't have a hard time getting into it and need to copy & paste everything and you still have more advanced options
hot hull
How about we all just stop using maven and gradle, problem solved :))
heady birch
intellij artifacts
lunar cypress
Well that sucks too, but for other reasons
signal tinsel
Nice, I added a debug command to my chat plugin
It generates a hastebin link
With the configuration and a list of all required placeholderapi expansions (and whether they are installed or not)
topaz bay
It was very late
frigid badge
lmao
topaz bay
Gradle is not even slightly complex
prisma wave
It's complex but not complicated
prisma wave
Can't be that hard
hot hull
This is a christian server, watch your profanity!!
topaz bay
OH YOU THINK SO?!?!?!
prisma wave
Recursion or something
topaz bay
Alex.
I know how to do it
I've done it before
That doesn't make it any less annoying
I also can't fucking see right now
I think Im dehydrated
My vision is blurry
topaz bay
choke
steel heart
no whats a line
Okay bm its ok to not like semi colons but it gives readability in my opinion
prisma wave
I don't dislike then
them*
but saying that no semicolons makes "scripting" code is stupid
prisma wave
https://img.bristermitten.me/21.52.35-2020.png how does he do it @topaz bay
topaz bay
@prisma wave ?
steel heart
but saying that no semicolons makes "scripting" code isstupid
True but thing is I am so used to it so I am mostly for it because of the personal preference and I like to go random on these types of arguments
topaz bay
semicolons are stupid.
ocean quartz
You get used to it, like in a few weeks of Kotlin i was so used that i'd forget to do it in java
remote goblet
I hate it when people don't use semicolons in JS
although it's not required, is still lowkey annoying
ocean quartz
True yeah
remote goblet
i'm jealous of people who have Webstorm
ocean quartz
OS license ;p
jovial warren
anyone here know why some YAML configurations use |- instead of | (by specification) for multilines?
prisma wave
https://img.bristermitten.me/23.36.12-2020.png this is genuinely hideous
https://img.bristermitten.me/23.36.26-2020.png works though
ocean quartz
As long as it works ;p
Also doing some nice progress
@Default
public void def(final String argument) {
System.out.println("This is being printed on the default method, arg - " + argument);
}
@SubCommand("testing")
public void testingCommand(final String argument) {
System.out.println("This is being printed on the sub command method, arg - " + argument);
}
Would it make sense to always pass down the User that typed the command? Like I do with the command sender?
public void command(final User user, final String argument)
Or maybe the entire message? Hmm
remote goblet
I just finished my CommandHandler
ocean quartz
Nice! How does it look like?
remote goblet
these are all the settings ive got so far
I was using JDA Utilities previously
and oh boi
the difference sweat
prisma wave
@ocean quartz I think having the user would be a nice option but you shouldn't need it
Quite nice @remote goblet
You should add things like the User and the Channel to the execute method I think
remote goblet
Yeah i might make a new event that's exactly like that includes stuff in there
ocean quartz
@prisma wave Hmm, to be optional then I might do like this:
public void command(final String argument) {
getMessage();
}
That way the sent message is always available, with the channel, user, etc
prisma wave
That's an option. Are you not using reflection? You could just pass the User if there's a user parameter
ocean quartz
Yeah but for example if they want you to introduce a user as an argument, putting one user will get the current one, it'd just create a bit of confusion imo
prisma wave
Oh yeah good point
I guess you could use an annotation but that would probably get messy
ocean quartz
Yeah, I might just add it to the abstract class when ever the command is executed
heady birch
In real life you don't listen for an event
why do we call them event listeners
maybe we could call them EventAttenders
Maybe the event term is flawed?
When in real life, we visit the event, why in software does the event visit us?
ocean quartz
I guess event waiter would make the most sense? Since it's waiting for the event to trigger it
topaz bay
@heady birch youre using the wrong definition of event
**Event: **a thing that happens, especially one of importance.
Events happen around us all the time, and we are reactive to them.
topaz bay
@prisma wave
pale shell
Is that odin?
topaz bay
No, its some random other language I started working on @pale shell
ocean quartz
That is pretty cool though ;o
pale shell
Yeah! The push reminds me of github
ocean quartz
Kinda wanna join the custom programming language thing, but i shouldn't xD
ocean quartz
Seems fun yeah i kinda wanna give it a shot
hot hull
heady birch
SafetyCheck extends AbstractCheck implements Check
public SafetyCheck(SafetyCheckingStrategy strategy) {
}
hot hull
What?
heady birch
CEO of enterprise
lunar cypress
terrible
stoic sail
just found out on npmjs' website if you click the heart in the top left the little message changes - I found this xD
prisma wave
@topaz bay that's pretty cool
heady birch
It looks like newer java versions are starting to copy kotlin features
namely the enhanced switch and automatic casting
lunar cypress
automatic casting?
if you mean smart casts, java doesn't have that and won't get it
also switch expressions are not like when
lunar cypress
I was referring to niall
pattern matching and smart casts are not the same
or similar, even
hot hull
How would 1 go about compacting 3 for loops
for (int x = (int) location.getX() - 1; x < location.getX() + 1; x++) {
for (int y = (int) location.getY() - 1; y < location.getY() + 2; y++) {
for (int z = (int) location.getZ() - 1; z < location.getZ() + 1; z++) {
final Location l = new Location(location.getWorld(), x, y, z);
final Block block = location.getWorld().getBlockAt(l);
for (Material mat : blacklisted) {
if (block.getType() == mat) {
safe = false;
}
}
}
}
}
1 wouldn't really
heady birch
automatic castings just what i called it, seems like a suitable name but yeah it was Pattern matching i was refering to
lunar cypress
Although you could make the innermost for loop prettier
lunar cypress
well now that I think about it
couldn't you break; if safe = false?
the entire thing, i mean
hot hull
probably
lunar cypress
also why are you casting to int
either use getBlockX or just use double directly
btw, Location has a method getBlock()
and World has a method getBlockAt(int, int, int)
hot hull
It's not bukkit's location
heady birch
What is it
hot hull
WarpLocation, not relevant tho
hot hull
Who's plugin would it be 
pale shell
1.15 seems to be the poorly made version of spigot 😬 pure issues since trying to update to it
hot hull
Yea cause you refuse to change your shit lol
pale shell
getBukkit down? edit: found it in my cache ;D edit 2: gradle to the rescue
prisma wave
use buildtools