The facts basing the opinion can be wrong but the opinion itself cant be
^^^^^^^
#dev-general
jovial warren
prisma wave
And the justification in this case is very strange
remote goblet
As i said, Bardy probably should of just stopped typing instead of forming the list
topaz bay
My opinion is that I am the richest person in the world
frigid badge
the justification is indeed strange, besides the points about his preference
prisma wave
thinking Java is better is fine
topaz bay
The evidence is bullshit
obtuse gale
sx the facts basing that are wrong tho
distant sun
My opinion is that I am the richest person in the world
@topaz bay the grumpiest
jovial warren
@topaz bay your opinion still isn't wrong though
prisma wave
but this justification is inherently wrong
topaz bay
Youre fucking dumb.
prisma wave
or at the very least it doesn't make sense
obtuse gale
you can believe your the richest
frigid badge
lmfao
prisma wave
ok let's not get toxic
obtuse gale
doesnt make you the richest
jovial warren
but your opinion still isn't wrong
hot hull
My opinion is that I am the richest person in the world
@topaz bay
Hit me up with 2k, ktnx
obtuse gale
because the facts basing it are wrong
jovial warren
as I said, facts can be wrong, opinions can't
remote goblet
In certain situations, you have to learn how to stfu :)
ocean quartz
He's the richest and you ask for 2k? Go for 2m at least xD
prisma wave
Ok this has gone too far
jovial warren
if you think you're the richest man in the world and you aren't, you're just delusional, doesn't mean your opinion is wrong
topaz bay
@ocean quartz JEEZ
hot hull
Matt, I only need 2k, so..
remote goblet
I only need $500
remote goblet
In some situations you do need money
obtuse gale
thats whats known as the economic problem i think
hot hull
We'll I do, but I'm not that scummy to ask for more than I need atm
remote goblet
to ya know, to eat and shit
frigid badge
well you don’t ‘need’ more
obtuse gale
Humands wants are unlimited but the resources are limited
remote goblet
Have you ever been to atrain station ?
frigid badge
since you have everything paid for you to live
hot hull
Ori, here train station toilets are free :))
remote goblet
:((
hot hull
Well, most of them
remote goblet
rich countries
frigid badge
70 cents here but on the train itself it’s free
hot hull
wdym rich countries
jovial warren
obtuse gale
wiKiPeDiA isNt RelIaBle
remote goblet
shut up bardy
frigid badge
@remote goblet don’t be toxic
prisma wave
End of story
hot hull
Y'all gotta just zip it kek
frigid badge
for real it’s just an discussion no need to be rude like that
jovial warren
about time someone got some sense around here, thank you @prisma wave
distant sun
Stop.
frigid badge
and yeah I agree with Brister’s statement.
jovial warren
let's move on shall we
frigid badge
fuck
prisma wave
Yep
frigid badge
could you not send that message a second later
prisma wave
Let's leave it here
remote goblet
I think it's time to return to this
frigid badge
now I look like a weirdo
remote goblet
click it
prisma wave
I fixed it lenmo
topaz bay
NO
prisma wave
lemmo*
remote goblet
no balls
frigid badge
lmao thanks
topaz bay
You right
jovial warren
what is this @remote goblet ?
hot hull
@remote goblet
Jesus christ get yourself together
ocean quartz
Ori make things final
remote goblet
the best thing ive ever done
remote goblet
Yes
hot hull
Yes
prisma wave
oh no
frigid badge
lmao
jovial warren
yeah try to make things that don't need updating final
topaz bay
I KNEW IT
jovial warren
you knew what?
prisma wave
lenmo lmao
topaz bay
Not talking to you.
prisma wave
mature
frigid badge
🤣
remote goblet
I want icecream
topaz bay
same
remote goblet
we have vanilla and raspberry ripple :o
frigid badge
I should organise a clash of code here one time
ocean quartz
Hmm Ori, an Island object accepting an Island object on the constructor doesn't make much sense >.<
frigid badge
just for fun
topaz bay
ew wtf
prisma wave
nothing in that class makes sense
remote goblet
that entire class doesn't make sense
remote goblet
:(
prisma wave
@frigid badge that would be cool
hot hull
Sx wow
remote goblet
You see
distant sun
Raspberry Pie
remote goblet
I want the volcano ice cream :o
hot hull
volcano icecream?
frail glade
Stop.
prisma wave
What is that
remote goblet
hot hull
How dare you even post that image
prisma wave
omg
remote goblet
the ones that are just covered in sherbert
distant sun
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360826173938204682/708337163439177768/IMG-20200508-WA0009.jpg
prisma wave
the volcano ice creams are godlike
remote goblet
they seriously are
prisma wave
ice cream vans come back 😭
remote goblet
😢
hot hull
@solemn monolith Now, add unlimited messages (if you want an example of what I mean, run =pl frozen join in #bot-commands)
remote goblet
My dad really enjoys oyster ice cream :o
hot hull
Where are you from Ori?
hot hull
Y'all people are mad
remote goblet
prisma wave
Normal oysters suck
remote goblet
Rocket and Mr Magic :oooooo
prisma wave
Ice cream oysters good
solemn monolith
@hot hull I'll have a look 🙂
obtuse gale
Btw yes, I usually fry the oyster to eat
distant sun
I have never understood why your first shit plugin, probably join messages, MUST be posted on spigot
Just .. why?
obtuse gale
Lol
prisma wave
It's tradition
obtuse gale
lol
hot hull
Gaby, why are you rude..
solemn monolith
😢
remote goblet
each plugin must have join messages
obtuse gale
oo
hot hull
||jk <3||
obtuse gale
its not a joke if its true
Btw one question
Does anyone like fried field-mice?
I do 👀
mice?
hot hull
What doodoo land are you from?
obtuse gale
Yes
remote goblet
also this is the Island.java now kek https://paste.helpch.at/urayuzivam.java
hot hull
What's next? roasted human?
remote goblet
@topaz bay
hot hull
oh god
hot hull
Is this clean enough? https://paste.helpch.at/oqonesutov.sql
distant sun
Gaby, why are you rude..
@hot hull im not
ocean quartz
Lies
hot hull
Read my next response nerd
distant sun
Shut up matt xd
ocean quartz
See rude!
hot hull
Your shit plugin (gui helper) is also posted on spigot, and here we are
@hot hull
distant sun
Your shit plugin (gui helper) is also posted on spigot, and here we are
@hot hull you wish :)
hot hull
r3kt
distant sun
Im not against join plugins but for real
You cant make a plugin without posting it on spigot?
hot hull
I get what you mean but still no need to demolish the guy :p
If only showcase was actually for showcasing purpouses :c
And not straight up advertisment
pale shell
that's the fucking second time I hit ctrl + alt + shift + k by accident 😐
hot hull
Just disable it lmao
pale shell
cba
I know i'm gonna hit it one day by accident and brister and sx will find it funny
hot hull
Then stop complaining lmao
pale shell
i'm not
remote goblet
that is exactly what i said to myself frosty
pale shell
i'm just saying it's too easy to press
remote goblet
what does it do
hot hull
What the fock are you doing that you're holding down ctrl, alt, shift and K
hot hull
What's excel got to do with IJ lmao?
pale shell
i'm just saying because excel has long keybinds
hot hull
Still doesn't explain what you're doing to be pressing all that shit..
obtuse gale
wait waht does cntrl alt shigt k do
prisma wave
converts java to kotlin
obtuse gale
So guys
o
I want to make it so when player has invincible it also hiddes the armour, anyone know a way? I have also protocollib as depency if that helps
remote goblet
I'd assume it might use the #canSee method or using packets
prisma wave
canSee would probably do
remote goblet
remote goblet
;p
prisma wave
second is better though
ocean quartz
It's a "hard" skill
pale shell
Light mode...?
obtuse gale
How to google should be tought in school
None of this Ask a teacher bs
Just Ask google
pale shell
When you've been trying to work out where the bug is all day and then you add some debug messages and find https://i.imgur.com/u4ksLYS.png :/
ocean quartz
@hot hull Like this?
ocean quartz
There you go, it's pushed for 1.2.8
jovial warren
anyone know how I can get a javadocs page on my site?
distant sun
spigot javadocs? buildtools
jovial warren
no custom javadocs
so I can put my own javadocs on there
do I just generate javadoc files and upload them?
lunar cypress
Yes
prisma wave
bonus points if you use CI
jovial warren
I want to use CI
jovial warren
I want javadocs at https://docs.prevarinite.com/java/ and CI at https://ci.prevarinite.com/
I just wanna know how I can automatically get documentation uploaded to the folder that houses the javadocs
prisma wave
what CI provider are you going to use?
prisma wave
Jenkins is cool
jovial warren
even then I don't know much about what it is or how it works
no idea how CI server's even work
prisma wave
I don't know many other self hosted options
jovial warren
also I'm assuming I can customise my javadocs page with a good old bit of CSS
prisma wave
you can
jovial warren
I get free Travis CI with GitHub Student Developer Pack
from what I read
but that's a paid service
Jenkins is free
prisma wave
Travis is free?
jovial warren
is it?
prisma wave
But normal Travis is free afaik
hot hull
@ocean quartz Did you add that to the util thingy, or the gui one as well?
Cause I'm only using mfgui for this plugin, and "my own" command thingy
ocean quartz
That is just in the itembuilder so only the gui one
hot hull
Yea just noticed :p
dry coral
@foggy pond
Does your karma plugin have an API?
I see it
Nevermind, how can I use it to access one's karma?
dry coral
what
i have the plugin in my maven
just need to figure out how to actually access karma data
Do I make a new instance of KarmaManager or
I also don't see a getKarma or getPlayerKarma method in the api
obtuse gale
@remote goblet can you send me that link
jovial warren
hey @pallid gale I thought I'd let you know if you didn't already that https://helpch.at/faq doesn't take you anywhere
errant geyser
So uh, I just bought a domain. Any ideas on how I could host a Maven repo at repo.mysite.com ?
If I don't reply within like 3 mins please ping me
prisma wave
@errant geyser vps + sonatype nexus is the way to go
errant geyser
How about a raspberry pi 2B?
jovial warren
yeah you need a hosting provider
prisma wave
You could probably run it off a raspberry pi
jovial warren
I wouldn't suggest using something on your local network
prisma wave
as long as it had ~1gb of ram
jovial warren
since that requires port-forwarding
jovial warren
^^^^
errant geyser
I'm doing it on my network for now. The pi 2b has 2? I think GB of RAM
prisma wave
Hm ok
Just bear in mind that could effectively end up ddossing your home network if it gets enough traffic
errant geyser
I'm aware
Is there some sort of quick start guide for a sonatype repo? I was following a tutorial that showed to use Tomcat and archiva
foggy pond
@dry coral It does but in the current version it is kinda under-developed
The next update will have a much better API
prisma wave
Nexus is pretty simple
There's an installation guide on the website
and then you can setup a simple nginx config to proxy a subdomain if you want
As by default it runs on hostname:8081
prisma wave
Yeah that's it
jovial warren
can I push to jenkins and nexus directly from IntelliJ IDEA? I'm curious
prisma wave
Assuming you have a bit of sysadmin knowledge
I'm not entirely sure
I think Jenkins can support GitHub webhooks
jovial warren
oh I have plenty of sysadmin knowledge
jovial warren
most of system administration is just following instructions anyway
jovial warren
knowing what commands to not copy and paste
prisma wave
That's slightly harder
jovial warren
cough curl | bash cough
errant geyser
So, what would that nginx config look like and how could I like, make it work. I'm following that guide tomorrow
jovial warren
am I the only one here who uses caddy lol
most people use Apache, and some use nginx
I use caddy due to it's simplicity and the fact that the person who helped me set it up when I didn't know what I was doing uses it
also hold on a second
is nexus oss not on a centos repository?
that's like rule #2 for linux: don't install things from tar
the first being don't install things from curl | bash
jovial warren
it's on AUR
prisma wave
never heard of caddy
prisma wave
what's wrong with a tar file
jovial warren
it needs manual updating
prisma wave
oh yeah true
jovial warren
the whole point of a package manager is that it auto-updates software for you
prisma wave
proxy_send_timeout 120;
proxy_read_timeout 300;
proxy_buffering off;
keepalive_timeout 5 5;
server {
listen 443;
server_name repo.bristermitten.me;
client_max_body_size 1G;
ssl on;
ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/repo.bristermitten.me/fullchain.pem;
ssl_certificate_key /etc/letsencrypt/live/repo.bristermitten.me/privkey.pem;
ssl_trusted_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/repo.bristermitten.me/chain.pem;
location / {
proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8081/;
proxy_set_header Host $host;
proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Proto "https";
}
}``` @errant geyser this is by no means elegant and I'm not an expert but it does the jobproxy to the subdomain + SSL
jovial warren
that in caddy is literally:
repo.bristermitten.me {
root (repo root)
}
caddy automatically handles ssl certificates
prisma wave
what about the proxy?
jovial warren
if you have certbot and certificates available
ocean quartz
BM do you know anything about docker?
jovial warren
oh wait isn't it available using docker?
prisma wave
I think so
jovial warren
that's another option for automatic updates
ocean quartz
Trying to figure how to update Java version on ptero but know nothing about it xD
errant geyser
Thanks BM, I'll modify that to what I need tomorrow. Or attempt to.
ocean quartz
pterodactyl panel
jovial warren
oh that's a pain
prisma wave
i'm not overly familiar with how docker works
jovial warren
neither am I to be honest
prisma wave
I know the basic concepts and commands but nothing like that lol
jovial warren
I just need something that I can use for auto updates
I'm not installing from a tar file
ocean quartz
I wish they'd use a more recent Java by default
prisma wave
that would be nice
I guess you could go into the container's filesystem and just change the files yourself
but that's probably an awful idea
jovial warren
actually since it's latest-unix.tar.gz I could probably create my own thingy
let's see this
prisma wave
fancy
distant sun
lemmo does @ocean quartz
ocean quartz
Ooh I should message him then
jovial warren
yeah according to my mate there actually isn't a way to have nexus auto update with yum
distant sun
Ooh I should message him then
@ocean quartz ye
topaz bay
@ocean quartz
tupppllleeessss
And it supports nested tuples
Which is probably a terrible idea, but we're rolling with it for now
real ether
How can I add the Player's name here? https://prnt.sc/sdkvxw (New to coding)
real ether
Sorry forgot to add the link
obtuse gale
might just be me
real ether
The link is working for me fine
obtuse gale
probably just me
real ether
Do you want me to upload it to some where else?
hot hull
@ocean quartz with the ItemBuilder, if something doesn't exist (ie. a specific path - in this case lore (isn't set)), will that throw an npe, or does it handel it properly?
steel heart
Why would it throw NPE?
An ItemStack only needs a Material to make a new instance of it.
hot hull
config path throws an npe if not present
steel heart
In his fw?
hot hull
Not sure, hence my question
hot hull
ye we are
steel heart
I only see a method and a static method
But when I think of an ItemBuilder I thought you meant something which takes different args in methods and return itself so you can just keep using the methods and then a method to make a it an ItemStack. If we skip generics with something like a supplier. We would make a list null and then redeclare it on #setLore then on #toItemStack we first check if it’s not null then set the lore. That shouldn’t give NPE idk how Matt did it but I don’t think it should give NPE.
heady birch
@hot hull IColor.colorize 🤨
hot hull
wut
Naming it just Color is annoying cause IJ sometimes suggests ChatColor as the first line
heady birch
Icolor tells me its an interface
hot hull
errant geyser
Looks like i'm going to have to use a VM for the sonatype repo
My raspberry pi has 1GB of RAM lol
@prisma wave what variant of Linux would you say is best for this?
prisma wave
Ubuntu is always a good option
I've never tried CentOS but some people seem to prefer it for website things
errant geyser
VirtualBox doesn't have an option for CentOS
Can't decide on Debian vs Ubuntu, any thoughts?
quiet depot
ubuntu is user friendly debian
anyway
1gb won't be enough for nexus
it's hungry boy
errant geyser
Im aware. Its needs 2.7GB min, thats why I'm setting up a VM for it
errant geyser
alright
quiet depot
also
virtualblox shouldn't need an "option for centos"
doesn't it accept the image?
quiet depot
ubuntu
errant geyser
ok
errant geyser
When I went to start it, it said it required 2.7GB, and obviously since the Pi 2B has 1GB, it couldn't allocate it
quiet depot
ah, ic
errant geyser
I could've altered it, but eh
proper patio
Java or C++?
heady birch
Depends on the application and requirements?
distant sun
Skript ftw
hot hull
@distant sun leave
distant sun
=ban @hot hull
pallid gale
wew
pliant badger
how often should a database data be updated? what interval is too much?
errant geyser
On player logout?
jovial warren
#705633782086107209 I feel like a dick now lol
feels like by offering a free service I'm undercutting other's business
distant sun
then dont lol
jovial warren
don't what? undercut other's business?
distant sun
ye
pallid gale
smh
jovial warren
didn't seem like it did anything though
pallid gale
just ignore it
jovial warren
xD
ocean quartz
@hot hull Well if you're getting from the config null then Spigot will throw NPE, but if you set the lore to null it shouldn't
hot hull
pale shell
Anyone friends with PCPSells...?
signal tinsel
Do yall answer private calls or not?
hot hull
ew no
obtuse gale
hi guys
when i change slots on my server from 100 to 80 will it impact performance?
i heard about something like ram for 1 player
frail glade
I mean unless you can fill the slots, you can set it to anything.
frail glade
Damn Brister sniping me.
obtuse gale
yikes
prisma wave
sorry lol
gilded breach
Is PaperMC always the goto for plugin development?
frail glade
55% is on Paper now
prisma wave
We have hope
frail glade
Since I have to support spigot tho I just compile against that
prisma wave
yeah the paper api isn't that much different
gilded breach
So would it be advantageous to develop plugins to run with paper instead of spigot?
frail glade
It's a lot easier if you run your own server on paper cause then you only have to worry about your server
Well it depends if you're developing publically or for single server
gilded breach
Ah yeah that makes sense
prisma wave
basically - if you want to appeal to the mass market (public plugins), compile against spigot. If you are making a private plugin compile against paper
frail glade
Paper includes a lot of optimized events / logistics such as async teleporting, async chunk loading, custom GameProfile stuff
gilded breach
if I built it for spigot would it automatically have compatibility with paper servers?
gilded breach
Alright that's great, thank you
frail glade
Yup!
pale shell
Paper is best though
@prisma wave how much of my code would i have to change to run paper
pale shell
Fr?
prisma wave
paper isn't vastly different in terms of its api
pale shell
Interesting, might have to put it on the dedi
prisma wave
there's absolutely no reason not to use it
pale shell
Didn't know if I had to change stuff that's all
pale shell
Btw i did a big oopsie today
limpid sun
anyone here know how to update what plugins you got?
limpid sun
I purchased something ages ago before linking and I purchased more plugins since and I need extra roles on this discord
prisma wave
deprecation doesn't cause errors
it makes warnings
you just have to wait for spigot + the db to be updated @limpid sun
pale shell
All the same thing
limpid sun
does it do it automatically?
prisma wave
iirc they have to do it manually because spigot api sucks
pale shell
Wait
pale shell
Isn't there =check or =checkroles?
prisma wave
I think so
limpid sun
=checkroles
frail glade
It's =spigot check in #bot-commands
prisma wave
but as far as I've seen it still takes time to update
obtuse gale
Guys, I need to connect a second currency independent of the currency essentials to my server, do you have a proven plugin?
I apologize for my English
😄
obtuse gale
I'm looking for a plugin
pale shell
@prisma wave up to 12hrs iirc
obtuse gale
I do not trust the developers, because they can write something bad in the code
pale shell
Who?
obtuse gale
but I can’t verify the code myself
pale shell
I do not trust the developers, because they can write something bad in the code
What developers
obtuse gale
which make custom plugins
pale shell
Why not..?
Not everyone makes scumbag code. If they do they'd be called out by everyone..
prisma wave
if you want a reputable developer then go for someone with lots of previous experience and vouches
and this should really be in #705633781070954517 , #705633782811590666 or #off-topic
pale shell
I mean, this is a development subject...?
obtuse gale
and find a ready-made plugin is not an option?
just because of the exchange rate the price will not be very good for me
prisma wave
If you're looking for one try asking in #general-plugins
obtuse gale
well thank you very much, sorry if I wrote the wrong way, I'm new here)
prisma wave
no problem
sullen mesa
prisma wave
I have absolutely no idea but I doubt it
wheat cedar
No you dont
obtuse gale
What do you guys think of my new tutorial https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/custom-entityplayer-class-with-skins-that-take-damage.437594/
dry sage
https://github.com/latham7/HelloWorld
Hello! Dev student who is practicing java plugins. I made (followed tutorial) this hello world plugin but does not work. It does not show up in /pl on the server
any help would be great!
hot hull
If it doesn't show up on the plugin list at all, are you sure it's on the servers plugin folder? Also make sure you compiled it properly
dry sage
Im pretty sure it is. Im using eclipse
and yes it is in the plugins folder
Also not sure if this is the correct chat channel. Since im looking for help and it says "relaxed area"
hot hull
Switch to IJ :))
errant geyser
^ though you can still work with Eclipse, it's just like, harder. And no visible option to use Maven/Gradle
There should be an error in console about your plugin, what is it?
dry sage
I have no errors
what is IJ?
Nevermind, lol I used to use PyCharm so I like the look of this IDE
actually there in an error
compact perchBOT
dry sage
sorry ill remember that for next time ^^^
obtuse gale
Indentation is wrong in plugin.yml
http://www.yamllint.com/ run your plugin.yml through this
And get help from the spigot website or official discord, people on this server will only say to use IntelliJDEA
dry sage
I just downloaded it lol
frail glade
I mean he can still get help but people do tend to prefer IJ
dry sage
how do i export to jar from IJ
frail glade
If you do use IJ, check out a plugin called MinecraftDev
obtuse gale
Doesnt matter which one he likes, the plugin.yml was the issue
dry sage
yes thank you for that
obtuse gale
Should be 2 spaces under command if you know what Im saying
dry sage
no..? should i ?
obtuse gale
commands:
Hi:
usage:
description:
dry sage
ohhh yes yes I know sorry. Like I said, Im new and learning so sorry about my silly confusion
hot hull
It's not tho..
obtuse gale
Try this place instead
dry sage
Okay well I can try the Spigot channel if I need some more help. Thank you for your help tonight
🙂
obtuse gale
The people on the spigot discord are generally more knowledgable
hot hull
Debatable kek
obtuse gale
Yep, It is an opinion, but I can back up my point
pallid gale
Zuhko, you really are starting to annoy me.
obtuse gale
Litteraly whenever someone asks for help, they get an arrogant response or get told to use intelijdea, even if its a simple plugin.yml error
pallid gale
They don't, but there's no point arguing that here.
obtuse gale
They just did just scroll up and read the responses
dry sage
But if IJ can help me work a little bit more productively then its moreso helping than someone trying to push a software onto me
dry sage
lol
wheat cedar
Its true
obtuse gale
And IDE should be a tool, a choice of whags easiest for you
hot hull
Agreed, however IJ offers easier usage imo
obtuse gale
If you work the best with notepad than use it, but my point is all people say on this server is use ij
hot hull
Although, I wish IJ had the project tree as eclipse does (for ease of looking at other projects code)
obtuse gale
And generally speaking, people in the spigot discord are more experienced in the industry
hot hull
Again, debatable, but not trynna start an argument, so let's just say you're right
pallid gale
Then go hang out there?
hot hull
hit reimport if it doesn't do it auto
dry sage
where is that
hot hull
Maven tab right side, the two circle arrows
dry sage
im sorry, im tryiing to use IJ but what the fucc am i doing
how the fucc do you get to the maven tab
i googled it and no help either
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dry sage
hot hull
You still gotta enable maven for the project
Is that a new project, or from existing source?
dry sage
i just made a new project with maven.
now its there
but cant make classes or packages
oh do you need to do it inside of the java folder?
hot hull
ye
dry coral
hurr durr intellij
prisma wave
intellij good eclipse bad !1!!?!
lunar cypress
dae??
hot hull
?ij
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hot hull
Yup
obtuse gale
thats what happening rn
Cos I used to like compile my code every time i like added anything and test it... and now i make like massive changes and then test
hot hull
The best feeling is when you spend like 8 hours coding without testing, and it works
remote goblet
^
the best feeling is spending 10 hours coding without testing and then it doesn't even compile, it won't load it just completely breaks and with no way of fixing ;)
wheat cedar
mh i f I have a code session of 8hrs and it works it makes me suspicous
finding at least one thing makes me have a better feeling xd
distant sun
When did that happen to anyone lol
wheat cedar
the rare occasion that it happens
hot hull
Happened to me the other day
I mean it worked, but the code was ew
(also when I say 8 hours coding session, I mean while slacking and doing other things in the meantime as well)
wheat cedar
ah yes good old yt notifications kicking in with useless videos
hot hull
yup kek
distant sun
Haha
obtuse gale
does the method name matter with matts command framework?
Or just as long as it has the annotation and commandSender param?
distant sun
no, it doesn't
obtuse gale
Anyone experienced in luckperms api?
i am trying to make like a boolean for isStaff via a track, so example getting the groups and then checking if user has the track staff
on the old api i now it was
.getAllNodes().stream()
.filter(Node::isGroupNode).anyMatch(node -> luckPermsApi.getTrackManager().getTrack(node.getGroupName()).getName().equalsIgnoreCase("donator"));``` but now i can't seem to find it how it worked.Got bored, designing a language. Thoughts? ```
factorial = num::BigInt -> BigInt {
if(num <= 0, throw[IllegalArgException("Factorial of 0 or lower")])
if(num == 1, yield[1])
yield(num * factorial(num - 1))
}
5Factorial = lazy(factorial[5])
If anyone's interested the full spec so far is here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MsqGZ-_5KCx9Fd9FSQSzqa8vrIkx5UK6G4i2lAhI9Tc/edit?usp=drivesdk
prisma wave
Idk might be 2 gs
pale shell
time to go through my whole project and remove all NPE catches 😄
pale shell
Alex, you're making a language too..?
prisma wave
Mhm
pale shell
fuck
prisma wave
Got bored at 2 am yesterday
pale shell
I am really dumb 😦
lunar cypress
what problem is the language trying to solve
heady birch
@topaz bay @prisma wave How are you guys even making languages? Are you just designing them at the moment?
heady birch
NiallLang™️ 🔜
prisma wave
I've not got any form of lexer or parser yet
pale shell
I wouldn't know how to start on making a language......
prisma wave
Start by thinking what the language wants to achieve
heady birch
FULL CAPS SYNTAX
pale shell
you ok there niall? lol
topaz bay
@heady birch mine sort of works
prisma wave
In my case it's for personal interest and to make a simple FP language that's statically typed
topaz bay
Nothing advanced yet
just properties and referencing them
Im working on the parsing of traits atm
heady birch
FUNCTION NiallCoolFunction ARGUMENTS a AS INT32 VIA REF, b AS BOOL VIA VAL RETURNING Result AS BOOL
prisma wave
that's hideous
prisma wave
genuinely the worst thing I've ever seen
topaz bay
That is objectively untrue
prisma wave
how so
pale shell
Odin = best >:)
topaz bay
Because Odin is the all father
prisma wave
no
ocean quartz
Odin is literally the God
topaz bay
The god of the gods
pale shell
yes, i'm the god of coding too
heady birch
Niall lang
prisma wave
just rewrite @pale shell
prisma wave
yes
pale shell
hell no
prisma wave
No
heady birch
I will build Nialllang spec
prisma wave
please make it not ugly
pale shell
I'm actually terrified to find a NullPointerException catch now
i "might" have removed them all but idk
heady birch
NPE's are 10x better than something just not working and you dont know what
prisma wave
And null in the type system is 100x better
topaz bay
^
pale shell
@heady birch you must not have seen how i was using it then..
heady birch
Odin?
prisma wave
neither does Friga
heady birch
Is that your language?
pale shell
Sx, did you see how bad i was using NullPointerException?
idk why Sx made the language odin lol
heady birch
traits are actually really cool
prisma wave
gonna have to steal that
heady birch
They are like interfaces, but implemented?
prisma wave
pale shell
I'm scared to look
prisma wave
quite a nice set of guidelines actually
topaz bay
traits are like a combination of abstract class and interfaces
heady birch
I wish java had that
topaz bay
Sort of like how interfaces behave in Kotlin
pale shell
no i mean i'm scared to see how bad i've been doing it
prisma wave
it says exactly why you shouldn't catch NPE
with examples
that entire website is actually very handy
pale shell
relax alex
hot hull
oof
pale shell
It's gone
hot hull
Atleast you named it ex
prisma wave
there are so many things wrong with that
heady birch
Lol
prisma wave
what
prisma wave
just purge it all
pale shell
you guys seem to love seeing my npe catches 🙂
prisma wave
on the contrary
prisma wave
that had better be a joke
hot hull
Start catching pokemon
obtuse gale
gotta catch em all
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hot hull
😎
hot hull
What? Like catch pokemon?
prisma wave
why would you need a plugin to catch exceptions
pale shell
there's plugins out there what do it
prisma wave
like what
pale shell
give me a sec i'll try and remember it
prisma wave
I find it extremely unlikely a plugin exists entirely to catch Throwable
hot hull
ew
pale shell
=pl Console Spam Fix
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pale shell
thats it
hot hull
I mean that just removes everything tho..
obtuse gale
almost fnished my 2fa plugin
hot hull
Doesn't really catch it, just prevents you from seeing it
pale shell
i mean... why would you even make that tho
obtuse gale
I mean for non-devs i can see a purpose for it
pale shell
was that to me alex or?
prisma wave
if there is an error it should be fixed
not just ignored
that plugin represents everything I dislike about spigot development
obtuse gale
but some plugins that have shitty authors dont do that lol
pale shell
Ah the plugin not me phew.
prisma wave
then don't use the buggy plugin
pale shell
Alex, you able to give a real quick opinion on something
prisma wave
yes
pale shell
i sent you a link via dm is that a good way to do it?
heady birch
then you can handle OutOfMemoryError 😎
@prisma wave 😮
zinc warren
Any1 here good with getting so hoppers move items faster and can pickup items faster?
remote goblet
Hoppers pick up items instantly
if you want them to transfer items faster
spigot.yml
zinc warren
Yeh, but i use wildstacker and the stacks are like x5000
remote goblet
i can tell you this
prisma wave
zinc warren
Any1 mobhoppers plugin for skyblock? for 1.12.2?
prisma wave
lunar cypress
@prisma wave is there more spec for that language of yours
prisma wave
Only what's on the doc at the moment
It's in infancy, I just had an idea at 2am yesterday lol
lunar cypress
So more of a draft and a broad idea of the aesthetics
prisma wave
yeah pretty much. I've not even defined specific tokens yet
I was just planning out what it might look like
prisma wave
like what
lunar cypress
Ah. Because the more interesting question imo are the features in general and how you work with the language. Syntax and aesthetics aren't really important to begin with
prisma wave
Yeah I agree
I think the "everything is a function" idea is actually pretty interesting. pretty sure I stole it from another language though
lunar cypress
What would be the benefits of that?
prisma wave
I'm not sure yet frankly
it could be a gimmick
but I suppose it would mean you could pass direct values to functions that took a Provider for example
lunar cypress
I.e. laziness
prisma wave
indeed lol
there are probably some other benefits but I've not thought what they could be yet
lunar cypress
I'm curious, btw: that factorial example, how would you make that lazy?
Whatever that means in this context
prisma wave
5Factorial = lazy(factorial[5]) this bit?
lunar cypress
Yeah
prisma wave
the square brackets resolve the function call as a function itself. So it's like the equivalent of () -> factorial(5) instead of the direct value
or did you mean internally how would the lazy function be handled?
lunar cypress
What would lazy do there?
prisma wave
it's like the kotlin lazy block. It lazily initializes and stores the value returned from the function
lunar cypress
Which in many cases allows you to remove recursion from recursive algorithms, even if you don't have tail recursion
prisma wave
yeah that could be an interesting addition
lunar cypress
Something like that could be interesting as a first class feature
prisma wave
Lemme plan out what it would look like
I guess this is why everything being a function is useful. () -> Int could be just 5
I've not tested this for obvious reasons but I think this should be roughly the same ```
factorialFun = num::BigInt -> (() -> BigInt) {
if(num == 0, yield[_])
if(num == 1, yield[1])
yield(yield[num * factorialFun(num - 1)])
}
10Factorial = trampoline(factorialFun(10))
@prisma wave replace the word nothing with an underscore, and youve got my support
topaz bay
Except I dont understand the double yield
topaz bay
I also dont understand the semantics of the parentheses and brackets
prisma wave
I think they should both be () actually
quite difficult as I'm making up the rules as I go along lol
lunar cypress
I guess if everything is a function anyway that distinction doesn't need to be made
prisma wave
not exactly no
prisma wave
Like I said the [] is for resolving the function call as a function itself
topaz bay
Why does the final yield have parens, but the other ones use brackets
prisma wave
you're right they should all be parens in this case
I think
factorialFun returns a () -> Int. Which can be resolved to just an Int, so factorialFun[num - 1] would return a () -> (() -> Int))
so yeah just ()
lunar cypress
How could it not need to be made
@topaz bay I mean if everything is evaluated upon access you don't need to distinguish between values and functions in that sense
prisma wave
values are functions
lunar cypress
What you do need of course is some syntax for an anonymous function
prisma wave
I suppose technically factorialFun could just return an Int
paramName::Type -> ReturnType {
}```it's just this for any function right now
lunar cypress
I suppose technically factorialFun could just return an Int
@prisma wave yeah that's what I meant by trampoline behaviour in the language space
topaz bay
...
prisma wave
wat
fun factorialFun(num: Int): (() -> Int)
{
require(num != 0)
if (num == 1) return { 1 }
return {
num * factorialFun(num - 1)()
}
}
factorialFun(3)()
``` I think this is the closest equivalent of what is happening but that seems to defeat the point of trampoline as 1 function call calls all of them. Probably impossible to properly resolve in KotlinWhat is better than NMS development in terms of Packets detection?
Like Anticheat detection
lunar cypress
It should be possible
wait no
@prisma wave I just realised trampoline doesn't work with that implementation anyway
prisma wave
oh how come?
lunar cypress
at least not in the user space
because you have to call the function in order to multiply it with the number
prisma wave
Oh yeah
lunar cypress
so in this example you'd have to make it tail recursive
prisma wave
hmm
I wonder if I could make Int * () -> Int resolve to () -> Int
then it would work
I think
lunar cypress
the benefit of trampoline emerges when multiple functions are involved that depend on each other
but yeah I guess if you have really good analysis you might be able to optimise such things
prisma wave
honestly not sure it's worth it or not
prisma wave
yeah I expect so
cool idea though
In theory it could happen if every direct type was fully interchangable with a supplier of itself. Which I guess they already are
my plan is for a literal to resolve to a () -> Type anyway
hmm
yield(num * factorialFun[num - 1])
factorialFun[num - 1] would resolve to () -> Int, so that could establish that the multiplication should become a function rather than the result of a function call
this is getting very hectic
ornate mantle
Hi, is there an autosell bee wiki? I can't set a multiplier for a user.
pale shell
@ornate mantle What you mean by that? docs for autosell..?
heady birch
They can't handle Niall Lang```vb
FUNCTION IsEqual [Var1 BYVAL AS Int32, Var2 BYVAL Val AS Int32]
END WITH True IF Var1 = Var2
END WITH False
This example shows the default return value
prisma wave
VB sucks
heady birch
INFERRED PROCEDURE DoSomething