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remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:49 AM

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ngl

floral basin Apr 3, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Then you try running it and going into the creative menu

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I just tried it with only that one mod, and this is the first time using it on the twitch launcher, and it still went 🔻

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:50 AM

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still sounds like a you issue

floral basin Apr 3, 2020, 1:50 AM

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:l

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Okay what about a plugin that can make new plugins

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Why though

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:50 AM

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i don’t know

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:50 AM

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exactly

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:51 AM

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I ALR SAID I GET USELESS STUFF IN MY HEAD

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:51 AM

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If you come up with dumb ideas for plugins that dont need to exist

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but do

floral basin Apr 3, 2020, 1:51 AM

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thats literally like skript

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people diss skript

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:51 AM

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thats how you end up with a dumb plugin like CraftHolograms

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Or

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If

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I remake a spigot har

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Jar

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For pvp performance

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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remake the entire of Bukkit and spigot

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Etc

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Yes

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Remake java

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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okay have fun

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Thanks

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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remake binary

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Remake universe

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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remake atoms

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Remake my brain instead

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:52 AM

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remake electrons and neutrons

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Hm

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Remake minecraft

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Let’s just make something like better command api or smtng

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:53 AM

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and then you can remove 1.9 combat and then people would use the latest version as it has 1.8 combat ;P

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no more 1.8 developers as they'd have no reason to be in 1.8

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:54 AM

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I am

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I’ve made cannon jars etc

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It involves 1.7 and 1.8

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Not saying it went well

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But 1.8 devs isn’t ded

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:55 AM

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1.8 devs should be tho

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Alrighty you're getting muted, again.

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:55 AM

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sadpepe

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 1:55 AM

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First it's 300+ plugins now it's 1.8 dev talk.

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:55 AM

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🤡

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Okay first of all who doesn’t love 1.8 like srsly

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Just amazing

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:56 AM

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1.8 pvp is great

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everything else about 1.8 just sucks

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I mean only on 1.8 was NBT stuff throw issues yesterday. Caused me an extra couple hours of work.

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That didn't English.

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:56 AM

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No weird pvp cooldown and absolutely no elytra

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Elytras are cool as hell

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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It’s trash

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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its amazing

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Oh god

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Free fly anywhere you want? thank you sir

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Maybe we should add op for no oppd players as wel

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Like why

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Elytra is too op

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And like the crying obsidian

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Work good stuff mojang

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Jeez

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Minecraft is now turning modded

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and i honestly love it

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Yes which is horrible

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:59 AM

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I like it

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:59 AM

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It will end up being something like terraria

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:59 AM

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People keep forgetting

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Minecraft is a survival game

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Sandbox

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Survival game first

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sandbox second

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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I mean c’mon

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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PVP, Plugins, Servers are all external parts of Minecraft, Microsoft's primary concern will very much be keeping the survival aspect of the game fun and fresh, They aren't entirely bothered about anything that comes with it

compact perchBOT Apr 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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✳️ Global Multiplier Expired!

The global multiplier has ran out and has been reset!

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Why

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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sadpepe

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Would u add

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Bees

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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1.15 was a bug fixing update

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Polar bears

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Yeah ik

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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but they had to add something

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Bees add more possibilities to redstone with the honey block

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and a new food source

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Just make a patch version of 1.14 jeez

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1.14.3

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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1.14.3 is already a thing

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Okay

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But u get it

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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I don't tho

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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1.14.5

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I don’t know

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Major.Minor.Patch

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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They needed a major bug fixing update and people had wanted bees

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they might not be the most spectacular thing

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but they're something that are very useful to have

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Adding fun stuff that involves math would be nice

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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With honey blocks, with crop pollinating, with extra food source, ect

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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More red stone components

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Atoms

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Neutrons

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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more redstone components is needed

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all sciency shit can fuck off tho

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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And caves

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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minecraft is fairly complicated but it dont need to be that complicated

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MC Caves suck

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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That is like 50% minecraft

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Needs a revamp

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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1.16 is a great update so far

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Something that makes it worth going to a cave whatever the circumstances are

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It’s decent

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Other than the pigmen being renamed and retextured

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it's great

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Target block

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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thats useless

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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They should fix nether portal connections as well

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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nether portal connections seem fine to me?

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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U srs

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:05 AM

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yep

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never messed with nether portal connections so I cant judge them

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Creating portal a

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Then creating portal b

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Then c

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It will fuck up

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U will end up in same in the nether

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:05 AM

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You mean you dont like the fact you need to do actual maths to figure out the real connections?

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the one thing that you just said you wanted more of? Maths?

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Yes

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I mean make it so each portal connects to nether seperatly

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Well gn

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:07 AM

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You make no sense sometimes

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 2:07 AM

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It makes total sense my man

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:08 AM

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@prisma wave ??

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no

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Ooo. Been working on potion support for DeluxeMenus but I might scrap it. It apparently doesn't work on all versions.

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Actually we dropped support for 1.8.8 so I might as well finish it.

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:11 AM

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fuck anything lower than 1.13

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 2:12 AM

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😛

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:12 AM

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More like anything lower than latest

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:13 AM

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can we take a moment to say how good the soul particle is

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(Stealing this gif from Esophose) https://gyazo.com/f3ad03fe3ef7a97a53dae522d38d5bad

Gyazo

▶ Play video

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:16 AM

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@remote goblet you should do that with the bubble particle

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its very good for creating "wires"

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:16 AM

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You do it

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PlayerParticles is free on spigot :)

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I've used it to create mercy's beam

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https://streamable.com/ew6hk

Streamable

Beam Mechanic - Streamable

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also ew...

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public plugins

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cant relate

rotund egret Apr 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Imagine hating plugins because they're publicly available and no other reason :^)

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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You see

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public plugins are fine

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Imagine thinking thats the reason

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Not all of them

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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if they're Esophose plugins weSmart

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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A large majority are trash

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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A large majority are trash ye

rotund egret Apr 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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No surprise there

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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esophose plugins are greattho

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I feel like I know that name, and I do not agree

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:19 AM

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and im not only saying that because she's lowkey mom

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:19 AM

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skyblock?

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Ex developer of Songoda 😅

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that was a sad time in life

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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/playerparticles.40261/ 🤷

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

PlayerParticles

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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I'm already looking at the git repo lol

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Its not bad

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/538338706608881674.png?v=1

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https://github.com/Rosewood-Development/RoseStacker that's their most recent plugin

GitHub

Rosewood-Development/RoseStacker

A stacker plugin created with performance in mind. Contribute to Rosewood-Development/RoseStacker development by creating an account on GitHub.

rotund egret Apr 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Kinda want to port this to sponge for personal use

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Although I do hate the mixture of braced and non braced statements

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Kinda bad

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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🤷‍♂️

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they also made Songoda's UltimateTimber all by themself

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I love her honestly, she encourages me to quit making that Skyblock plugin

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:21 AM

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How does this not throw exceptions on missing plugins?

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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couldn't tell you honestly

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lul

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it's apparently not entirely stable yet

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Oh, its their own classes nvm

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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it's completely async

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Is that supposed to be an achievement? xD

rotund egret Apr 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Async particles 🤢

floral basin Apr 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Found the issue

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Vic's MW doesn't like any forge version above 2769

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interesting

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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idk

floral basin Apr 3, 2020, 2:24 AM

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I guess forge updated their renderer or something and it broke

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:24 AM

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it can handle 1m mobs stacked into one and doesn't save all the data inside nametags unlike some people Cough UltimateStacker Cough

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Thats...

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?

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:25 AM

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🤷‍♂️

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UltimateStacker saves all its stack data inside the nametags soo

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:25 AM

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holy shit omg

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wait Im so lost

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:25 AM

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?

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:25 AM

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It saves EACH entity serialized?!?!?

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for WHAT!??

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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I DONT KNOW HONESTLY

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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I'm talking about this one thats supposedly better?

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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http://gitlab.com/Songoda/UltimateStacker/

GitLab

Songoda / UltimateStacker

GitLab.com

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Figure it out yourself

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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https://github.com/Rosewood-Development/RoseStacker/blob/35c39f668d51424e59f68ce665abefc091caa79e/Plugin/src/main/java/dev/esophose/rosestacker/stack/StackedEntity.java

GitHub

Rosewood-Development/RoseStacker

A stacker plugin created with performance in mind. Contribute to Rosewood-Development/RoseStacker development by creating an account on GitHub.

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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RoseStacker stores everything in sqllite

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generally

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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This literally keeps every serialized entity in a list in memory

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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wait lemme find what nicole saida about it

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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which doesnt make sense at all

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If they are being stacked, they should be the same entity, you could just clone the current one and call it a day

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:27 AM

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🤷‍♂️

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:27 AM

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That means nothing to me

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:27 AM

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neither does it to me

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Anyway its 3:30am

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:27 AM

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I would say its even more cancer to store literal copies of the entity in serialized form

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Thats like storing copies of an itemstack inside of itself for however much the amount of that itemstack is

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Instead of just storing the number

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:28 AM

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I don't know honestly lol

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I support any plugin or developer that dont support Songoda kekW

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:29 AM

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yikes...

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thats..... not good

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:29 AM

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~~i don't know if I could support someone who endorses child predators~~

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but that's personal preferences

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I'm not speaking on whatever the hell that is specifically

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Just the thought of support out of opposition, kinda yikes

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:31 AM

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their plugins are mostly good concepts but not entirely executed well as they're usually made within a day or two and then released with 40 updates following the initial release

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Sounds like.... all the plugins on spigot

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And the whole in a day thing is not really bad per se

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I can do quite a bit in a day

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xD

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:31 AM

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When you throw that factor with them being terrible people

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it's like

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eh

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:32 AM

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LOL

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 2:32 AM

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most developers on spigot are half terrible

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but songoda are on a next level

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and they're not even on spigot kekW

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 2:35 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wicked shadow Apr 3, 2020, 3:11 AM

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how do i get tokenenchat to work with deluxe menus on a 1.12.2 server

quick flume Apr 3, 2020, 3:13 AM

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ohhh new channel

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If you want support, I think use #development @wicked shadow ?

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more people will probably see it

wicked shadow Apr 3, 2020, 3:14 AM

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ok

ocean quartz Apr 3, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Oh didn't see this was made

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 3:29 AM

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If your config is this long, I will personally make sure you get smited the next time I see you in MC.

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rotund egret Apr 3, 2020, 3:34 AM

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👀

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That has to be storage of some kind

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 3:35 AM

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It's actually a debug command I made.

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Wanted to test limits.

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ocean quartz Apr 3, 2020, 3:37 AM

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How big is the file?

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 3:39 AM

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31MB

kindred hatch Apr 3, 2020, 4:10 AM

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omg

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Lol

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I got it up to 3GB

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File corrupteed

obtuse gale Apr 3, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Is this the channel where everyones gonna argue why intellij is better lol

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And why kotlin is better

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Both of those are true btw ^

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Prepare to get dunked on by sx

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Lol, can this channel be moved above #minecraft its kinda triggering me cos im so used to seeing it with minecraft next to off topic lol

quiet depot Apr 3, 2020, 4:59 AM

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yay

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awesome channel

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 8:29 AM

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yey

distant sun Apr 3, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Wew is still here

hallow tide Apr 3, 2020, 9:47 AM

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oooo

foggy pond Apr 3, 2020, 10:40 AM

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I was so scared that the channel would be removed within 12 hours

glad copper Apr 3, 2020, 10:44 AM

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o new dev channel

steel heart Apr 3, 2020, 11:14 AM

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@Override
public void onEnable(this::onDisable) {

}

@Overide
public void onDisable() {

}```

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Imagine this

prisma wave Apr 3, 2020, 11:21 AM

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that is physically sickening

distant sun Apr 3, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Lmao

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 11:38 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

hot hull Apr 3, 2020, 11:42 AM

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📎 IMG_20200103_165236.jpg

heady birch Apr 3, 2020, 11:44 AM

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Someone tell me what it means 😦

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 11:45 AM

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what does what mean

heady birch Apr 3, 2020, 11:50 AM

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onEnable(this::onDisable)

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Is it like inheritance of ondisble

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 12:04 PM

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@pallid gale which language is @quick lava monkaS

pallid gale Apr 3, 2020, 12:04 PM

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still nodejs

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 12:04 PM

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burn it

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sadpepe

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:o

pallid gale Apr 3, 2020, 12:05 PM

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@quick lava's sole purpose is just to aid barry with spigot linking

compact perchBOT Apr 3, 2020, 12:05 PM

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@pallid gale, Sorry, could you say that again?

pallid gale Apr 3, 2020, 12:05 PM

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shush

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 12:06 PM

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lol

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then where has development barry gone monkaS

pallid gale Apr 3, 2020, 12:06 PM

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hes locally hosted

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so he only shows up when we need him running to test stuff

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 12:08 PM

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he's my favourite barry :o

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but then in the screenshot it shows the webhook that the bots create dedicated to that specific system monkaChrist

heady birch Apr 3, 2020, 12:26 PM

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I'd do it for 20

pallid gale Apr 3, 2020, 12:41 PM

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psshttt

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Its really not hard

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I'll even show you how ours works

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=notify

compact perchBOT Apr 3, 2020, 12:41 PM

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@pallid gale

Notify Command | Invalid format!

=notify <alert/info/warn/reload> <title>|<message>
• Alert - Unscheduled maintenance/disruption
• Warn - Scheduled/upcoming maintenance
• Reload - Service Restored/Updates
• Info - General Announcement

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 12:42 PM

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Id do it for free

hot hull Apr 3, 2020, 12:42 PM

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I'd do it for 500

pallid gale Apr 3, 2020, 12:42 PM

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499 and ill do it

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 12:43 PM

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I'd do it purely for the fun of doing it

pallid gale Apr 3, 2020, 12:43 PM

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But yeah its super basic

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loads the webhook, posts to it

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 12:43 PM

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I'd even spice it up a bit and add reactions 🤷‍♂️

pallid gale Apr 3, 2020, 12:43 PM

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wew

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 12:44 PM

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wewww

pallid gale Apr 3, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Anyone happen to know off the top of their head how to join to mysql tables

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and lining up the data based on a column

heady birch Apr 3, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Yes you absolutely need spring framework

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 1:55 PM

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I dont understand how some antiswear plugins have players bypass it with spaces thonking

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Yeah it's f u c k I n g stupid

distant sun Apr 3, 2020, 2:06 PM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

rotund egret Apr 3, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Chat filters in general are hard to make work properly

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Swear filters*

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View the Scunthorpe problem
Legitimate name, would get blocked by a regular filter.

runic flume Apr 3, 2020, 2:37 PM

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And when would someone say that in game? x)

desert horizon Apr 3, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I guess this counts as development in a way...
I like this nice workflow to automatically publish my docs to gh-pages once I commit to master branch
https://github.com/purrbot-site/Docs/blob/master/.github/workflows/deploy.yml

rotund egret Apr 3, 2020, 2:39 PM

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It's an example, not a literal "find a way around this one word"

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You could take my minecraft name for example

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Something that would be said ingame
"AsexualDinosaur"

ocean quartz Apr 3, 2020, 2:58 PM

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One example, when people block political words like you know, Trump, you can no longer say Trumpet

frigid badge Apr 3, 2020, 2:59 PM

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that name longg

rotund egret Apr 3, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Yeah, tab completion Is a nice feature

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I just hate that /give doesn't automatically target the user running the command if no user is specified
Feelsbadman

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 3:14 PM

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For what, essentials?

rotund egret Apr 3, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Just regular minecraft
Sponges essentials plugin doesnt overwrite that command

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Ahh

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Oh you're Sponge

rotund egret Apr 3, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Yeah, probably the only sponge guy in here lol

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I assume you get commissioned for plugins?

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Ah fair enough

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I do the same

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Cant say I blame you.
Youd probably be underpaid if you did

hot hull Apr 3, 2020, 3:33 PM

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People too broke to commission you

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oof

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Make an api for autosell

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Clip is mia

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full isolation mode

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cuz vk's shit is broken

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glad copper Apr 3, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Js, Autosell already has an api

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o

hot hull Apr 3, 2020, 3:35 PM

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https://paste.helpch.at/tifetuwavo.xml

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Why does the TE one work then?

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:oshit:

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❤️

distant sun Apr 3, 2020, 3:44 PM

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you can also get it from spigot btw frosty

hot hull Apr 3, 2020, 3:47 PM

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I can't I tried like 4 times, it doesn't compile when I import it with a jar

hot hull Apr 3, 2020, 4:14 PM

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If it requires 64bit I can't

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smh

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gotta say tho, either I'm blind or the Autosell's Multiplier objects class is not gonna help me either

prisma wave Apr 3, 2020, 4:35 PM

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bc java generics bad

frail glade Apr 3, 2020, 4:36 PM

#

So with RC being out, does that mean it should be fully out within a week or so?

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 4:42 PM

#

HA

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A week

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 5:46 PM

#

i should work on my plugin but I feel sick so i'd rather not

#

and no it's not corona :P it's just physically sick

topaz bay Apr 3, 2020, 6:05 PM

#

@remote goblet "not corona"

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ok

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 8:09 PM

#

Yes

floral basin Apr 3, 2020, 8:44 PM

#

Anyone know some good wiki site templates

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Specifically for stuff like a modded server

remote goblet Apr 3, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

Enjin kekW

dusk parrot Apr 3, 2020, 11:52 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/644635648485097481/695781798197723156/unknown.png

#

Because sinning = winning

floral basin Apr 4, 2020, 12:42 AM

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god no not enjin

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 2:54 AM

#

@topaz bay

#

I have some cancer code for you

#

that i didnt write

#

and it isn't Island.java this time

#

https://hasteb.in/adamogeh.java kekW

#

uppercase packages

#

excessive else

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 2:56 AM

#

@remote goblet ...

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 2:56 AM

#

LMAOOO

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 2:56 AM

#

@pallid gale add an arrow code command to barry with a link to this

pallid gale Apr 4, 2020, 2:57 AM

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tooo?

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 2:57 AM

#

jesus christ

#

The more I look at it the worse it gets

#

@pallid gale https://hasteb.in/adamogeh.java this link

pallid gale Apr 4, 2020, 2:57 AM

#

o thats an arrow

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 2:58 AM

#

I...

#

It hurts

compact perchBOT Apr 4, 2020, 2:58 AM

#

FAQ Answer:

» Give the helpers some details
» Ask suitable questions
» Be polite
» Wait

Source

pallid gale Apr 4, 2020, 2:58 AM

#

=faq

compact perchBOT Apr 4, 2020, 2:58 AM

#

@pallid gale

FAQ • Invalid Usage

=faq <key>
=faq <add/edit> <key> <message>
=faq delete <key>
=faq raw <key>
=faq list
?<faq key>

pallid gale Apr 4, 2020, 2:58 AM

#

=faq add plsnoarrowcode https://hasteb.in/adamogeh.java

compact perchBOT Apr 4, 2020, 2:58 AM

#

@pallid gale, Added plsnoarrowcode to the faq.

#

FAQ Answer:

https://hasteb.in/adamogeh.java

#

FAQ Answer:

https://hasteb.in/adamogeh.java

pallid gale Apr 4, 2020, 3:00 AM

#

Sx when you gonna join the spigot discord

#

and get mad at everyone

frail glade Apr 4, 2020, 3:01 AM

#

We've improved the code https://hasteb.in/yoyagata.java

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 3:01 AM

#

@pallid gale I would rather die

#

Like... honestly...

pallid gale Apr 4, 2020, 3:02 AM

#

lol

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2020, 3:10 AM

#

That arrow

outer token Apr 4, 2020, 3:10 AM

#

i need help with deluxetags

#

i changed the config to be essentials chat

#

and now i just shows {deluxetags_tag}

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 3:12 AM

#

#general-plugins

#

You also need ChatInjector i believe

#

cause Essentials sucks

distant sun Apr 4, 2020, 8:33 AM

#

I would rather die
@topaz bay hf

foggy pond Apr 4, 2020, 11:49 AM

#

Why doesnt everyone use Paper instead of Spigot

#

Jesus

#

There is no reason to use Spigot over Paper

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 11:54 AM

#

I'm using Paper

foggy pond Apr 4, 2020, 12:01 PM

#

yeah, you bEtter

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 12:03 PM

#

Weird saying, but whatever

foggy pond Apr 4, 2020, 12:30 PM

#

What

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

#

I dont think I will ever understand how to do tab complete

hot hull Apr 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

#

It's easy

#

Want me to teach you?

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

#

thonking sure

hot hull Apr 4, 2020, 12:55 PM

#

firstly, make a TabComplete class, (or whatever the fuck you wanna call it)

#

then make it implement TabCompleter

#

then add the tabcompleter method

#

and just check the shit you wanna check, return the shit you wanna return and register it

#

easy as that

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 12:56 PM

#

bongo okeh

hot hull Apr 4, 2020, 12:56 PM

#

want an example?

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 12:56 PM

#

i'll figure it out

hot hull Apr 4, 2020, 12:56 PM

#

k, cuz I got shit code

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 1:01 PM

#

😂

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 1:08 PM

#

I really should fix this skyblock plugin 😩

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 1:38 PM

#

@distant sun ????

frail lark Apr 4, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

Good morning, sir,

I have a problem, when I put %pinger_online_testplugins.com:25565% and replace with my server's ip it doesn't work in the menu

Can you help me?

Thank you

hot hull Apr 4, 2020, 2:04 PM

#

#placeholder-api

frail lark Apr 4, 2020, 2:06 PM

#

Ah, okay Excuse me

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 4:31 PM

#

Did you know that VisualStudio19 includes a gradle project creator if you installed C++ development on the installer

quiet depot Apr 4, 2020, 4:31 PM

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people use gradle for c++?

#

TIL

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

#

i mean java.

quiet depot Apr 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

#

ah

#

well, who on earth uses visual studio for java

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

#

C++ was makefile

#

idk.

#

people who create gradle init.

quiet depot Apr 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

#

gradle init isn't coupled whatsoever to vs

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

#

i mean you can create a gradle compiler thing.

quiet depot Apr 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

#

you can do that in any competent java ide

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

#

ok....

#

VS19 has makefile for C++

quiet depot Apr 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

#

and intellij has gradle for java

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

#

🅱️s 19

#

Hahaha funny me

quiet depot Apr 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

#

intellij 2020 soon™️

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 4:34 PM

#

ree

quiet depot Apr 4, 2020, 4:34 PM

#

or maybe not, considering the date

📎 unknown.png

obtuse gale Apr 4, 2020, 4:34 PM

#

lmao.

jovial axle Apr 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

#

Hi there, I am trying to learn how to create custom entities in spigot 1.15.2 and I cant find a decent guide or example. could anyone maybe recommend one?

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 5:05 PM

#

@jovial axle #development

rose dirge Apr 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

#

I need some opinions on something.

Here is a rank system I made and I linked it to a GUI. It has taken me about an hour to code and I would like some opinions. Each wool block is a different rank and the enchanted wool is my current rank
https://i.imgur.com/6afz4CV.png

pale shell Apr 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

#

Anyone know how to speed up building in intellij? I just want it to refresh the changed classes not all of them

distant sun Apr 4, 2020, 7:06 PM

#

gradle

frail glade Apr 4, 2020, 7:07 PM

#

Gradle has a caching option for that

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 7:09 PM

#

pretty sure incremental compilation is already enabled

frail glade Apr 4, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Should be

#

So much nicer than maven 😂

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:12 PM

#

📎 21c492e.jpg

#

I felt this

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:21 PM

#

yikes

#

same

heady birch Apr 4, 2020, 9:21 PM

#

That is far too accurate

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:21 PM

#

shut up you

heady birch Apr 4, 2020, 9:22 PM

#

😋 var uh.. let me just guess they type

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:22 PM

#

Java has var too

heady birch Apr 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

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😐 Since when

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

destroyed with facts and logic

#

10

heady birch Apr 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

Eh I still use 7, 8 if I have to

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

Thats unfortunate...

#

For you...

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

Well we all use version n if we have to use version n

#

That doesn't really say anything lmao

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

does var work with custom classes too?

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

yes

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

oo

#

but its better to be typed right?

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

It has some interesting and unique effects

#

It is typed

#

It's just so-called type inference

#

You need to initialise it immediately

heady birch Apr 4, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

🥺

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

its like auto in c++

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

exactly

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:25 PM

#

im trying to imagine how its being done..

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:25 PM

#

?

#

you tell it the type right there on the right side of the operand

#

its just a copy paste lol

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

oh

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

var foo = new Object() {
    void bar() {
      System.out.println("Hello!");
    }
};
foo.bar();

#

This is one of the new var behaviour

#

wasn't possible before

#

I think it's quite interesting

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

i was about to say it will return an error

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

You can't actually capture the type without var

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

wdym

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

the type would have to be Object

#

which doesnt define bar

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

yeah

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:28 PM

#

oh

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:28 PM

#

I mean, this is rather useless, but still it's interesting

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:28 PM

#

ok my replica of https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/furniturelib-in-gui.53704/ for 1.15.2 is done ayy

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

FurnitureLib in GUI!

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:28 PM

#

You can also capture intersection types without generic methods now

#

is it open source @hallow tide ?

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

mine or them?

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

yours

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

its a private plugin

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

ah i see

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

i could show you code if you want

#

its easy

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

Let's be honest var sucks compared to val

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

facts

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

val?

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

Dont even start me on final var

#

🤢

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

eww

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

I remember when var was first announced

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

Johnny but i dont know if my paging system works though , cause i only tested it on 1 page and cba to add more furniture just to test XD

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

val is is kotlin goodness

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

I was BEYOND disappointed they didnt include val with the same semantics

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

it writes itself

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

what is val...

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

kotlin

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

final var is ugly

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

the same as var but final

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

Like var but final

#

val is is kotlin goodness
@prisma wave

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

is is

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

shut up

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

D;

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

mobile typing is hard

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

MY FEELINGS

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

but the thing is I don't really have the need for such a type tbh

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

FACTS DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

I don't usually change local variables anyway

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

#

var is just a time saver

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

#

Intersection types?

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

#

Nah, val

#

In kotlin i use it because it's idiomatic there but

#

like I don't miss it in java

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

#

everything should be final

#

always

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

#

it's idiomatic in Java too now

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

#

unless it needs to be non final

#

needs

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:34 PM

#

it doesn't really make a difference whether you make a local variable final or not

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:34 PM

#

what if it asks nicely

#

it could do

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:34 PM

#

It does for maintainability

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:34 PM

#

well in the main class of a plugin nothing can be final except the getters and setters and other methods

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:34 PM

#

I think that's an overstatement

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:34 PM

#

I think "doesnt really make a difference" is an overstatement

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:34 PM

#

that's another annoying part of spigot

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:35 PM

#

It may not make a difference

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:35 PM

#

main class fields usually have to be non final

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:35 PM

#

yeah

#

i hate that

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:35 PM

#

But if its the way you code start to finish, maintenance and extensibility is astronomically easier

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:35 PM

#

I disagree

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:35 PM

#

In regard to what?

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:36 PM

#

I agree in that immutability is good

#

But I don't think final local variables make a significant difference

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:36 PM

#

Depends on the kind of programmer you are IG

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:37 PM

#

They are captured within a temporary scope

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:37 PM

#

Its not about runtime though

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:37 PM

#

I know

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:37 PM

#

maintenance and extension dont happen at runtime

#

If you want to extract a part of a function into another one, things being final makes lifetime tracking infinitely easier

#

oops, you forgot to take out the part 20 lines down that mutates the value of this field

#

that cascaded into another function that takes this value

#

oops, the entire codebase is fucked now

#

LOL

#

Hyperbole ofc, but still

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:38 PM

#

hmm

#

such a thing never happened to me

#

I'd use a val if it existed

#

But I don't need to make everything final now

#

manually

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:39 PM

#

I mean... it just makes sense to mark non mutative references as non mutative

heady birch Apr 4, 2020, 9:39 PM

#

Imagine if the string class was not final

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:39 PM

#

Just from a logic standpoint

heady birch Apr 4, 2020, 9:39 PM

#

Hehe

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:39 PM

#

Enforce the implicit contract you have

#

I make intellij generate everything as final

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:40 PM

#

Generate what exactly?

hot hull Apr 4, 2020, 9:40 PM

#

Ever since someone yelled at me for not using final, I use it

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:40 PM

#

class and variable definitions

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:41 PM

#

i remember sxtanna yelling at me to final everything

#

someone asked me why do you final your methods its useless

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:41 PM

#

It is useless if your class is final

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:41 PM

#

it's not entirely useless

#

^^

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:41 PM

#

and it hurts if you want to mock

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:41 PM

#

wait you can make classes final?

#

why did i not know that

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:42 PM

#

final methods on final classes is useless

#

But thats not what Im talking about

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:42 PM

#

is it important to have classes as final?

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:42 PM

#

by default, yes

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:42 PM

#

i didnt know you can do that

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:42 PM

#

you can't say that in a general way

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:43 PM

#

Yes I can

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:43 PM

#

if your class should and will never be extended, make it final

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:43 PM

#

final by default, open for extension

#

If you want to have it extendable, make it non final

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:43 PM

#

Exactly what I said

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:43 PM

#

lemme make an issue in all my plugins

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:43 PM

#

No, you said the opposite

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:43 PM

#

if your class should and will never be extended, make it final

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:43 PM

#

Youre implying final should be the modification

#

non final is the modification

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:44 PM

#

whatever

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:44 PM

#

i made a mediocre meme

📎 unknown.png

#

probably a bit late now

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:45 PM

#

I mean I'm just saying...

#

There is a difference in that

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:45 PM

#

haha field = value

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:45 PM

#

@prisma wave LOVE direct field access

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:45 PM

#

yes

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:45 PM

#

You need to change the bow tie to a kotlin logo

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:45 PM

#

good idea

#

although actually

#

kotlin is kind of direct field access...

#

or it looks like it

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

Kotlin doesn't have fields at all

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

indeed

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

it does

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

It doesnt

#

It has properties

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

of course it does. private "properties" are direct fields

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

No they arent

#

All properties are an abstraction over a field with a getter and setter

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

bruh

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

JavaPlugin.getClass(Main.class).playerHandler.map = new HashMap<Player, Boolean>()

#

ez

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

no

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

#

no setter for vals

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

#

hold on, ima boot up javap

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

#

direct field access?

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

#

yes

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

#

what is it

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

#

Class#field instead of a getter/setter

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

#

static?

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

#

not necessarily

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

#

how would you do it without static

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:48 PM

#

?

#

class A { 
  int x;

}
new A().x = 3;

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:48 PM

#

if you say not necessarily

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:48 PM

#

yes

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:48 PM

#

wait thats possible?

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:48 PM

#

yes?

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:48 PM

#

oh because its public

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:49 PM

#

it's package private

#

but yes

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:49 PM

#

ah

#

btw im going on with gradle from now on as the MANIFEST.MF doesnt have your name YESS

#

makes stuff so much easier

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:49 PM

#

wtf is my kotlinc stupid?

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:49 PM

#

probably?

#

the kotlin compiler is trash

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:49 PM

#

it just doesn't produce any class files anymore

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:49 PM

#

you're trash

#

:)

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:50 PM

#

oh... not that trash

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:50 PM

#

jk jk

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:50 PM

#

you broke it

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:50 PM

#

by contradicting properties :^)

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:51 PM

#

My favourite thing about kotlin is jvm clashes

#

What about you guys?

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:51 PM

#

ayy gg on leveling up

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:51 PM

#

how tf did you see that before me

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:52 PM

#

Johnny leveled up

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:52 PM

#

oh we both did

#

lol

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:52 PM

#

You leveled up?

#

wait what you were always cyan colour...

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:52 PM

#

the colors are ranges of levels

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:52 PM

#

class Foo {
  private var field: String? = null
    
  fun bar() {
    field = "xyz"
  }
}
```results in:```
public final void bar();
    Code:
       0: aload_0
       1: ldc           #10                 // String xyz
       3: putfield      #12                 // Field field:Ljava/lang/String;
       6: return

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:52 PM

#

I like all of the Jvm annotations

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:52 PM

#

yeah im dumb xD

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:52 PM

#

@JvmStatic, @JvmOverloads

#

tasty stuff

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:52 PM

#

johnny tiered up

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

#

no property there

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

#

you talking about bytecode?

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

#

yes

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

#

yes

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

#

@lunar cypress No setter, because theres no definition of a setter

#

Its still a property

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

#

stuff that i barely know about nice

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

#

bytecode is cool

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

#

bytecode is trash

#

bitcode is better

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

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no

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

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:)

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

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like internals of java i mean

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

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screw you

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:54 PM

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D;

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:54 PM

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just experiment @hallow tide

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poke around

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see what stuff does

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:54 PM

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The thing I was saying is that private "properties" without getter/setter become raw fields while public properties stay being properties, even without explicit getter/setter

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:54 PM

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what is the consequence if i dont have my classes final 😛

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:55 PM

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not much

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sometimes you want classes final

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:55 PM

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when?

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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non-final*

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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oh

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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@hallow tide wrote an article about bytecode some time ago if you're interested in a simple introduction https://medium.com/p/an-introduction-to-jvm-bytecode-5ef3165fae70?source=email-e6e27a602296--writer.postDistributed&sk=536caa64482bf8130da8f056f28c5700

Medium

An Introduction to JVM Bytecode

It is very likely that you were taught the same lesson as me when you first started learning Java: the benefits of using the JVM.
Usually…

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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classes should be final by default

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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by default?

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so i dont have to do it?

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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no no

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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no in java they aren't

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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medium...

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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as you should make them final by default

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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ew

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Thanks Johnny

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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write on https://blog.bristermitten.me

Brister Mitten's Blog

Adventures of a Self-Taught Kotlin Developer

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that's not advertising

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pls don't ban me

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:57 PM

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oh

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:57 PM

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medium...
@topaz bay excuse me I'll write an article for the new york times next time

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:57 PM

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medium sucks

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the amount of medium articles I click only to see a paywall

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:57 PM

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lemme put it on my todo list

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:57 PM

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The link I shared is a friend link

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:57 PM

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@lunar cypress that bytecode would be the same if it werent private btw

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:57 PM

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you sure?

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:57 PM

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ah

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 9:58 PM

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then i misremembered that, my mistake

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Medium makes me want to vomit

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And reddit programmer subs are like 90% medium links

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It makes me sad

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:58 PM

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😦

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crapdium they call it

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 9:58 PM

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shitium

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Todo List
1. YOU STUPID MUST MAKE ALL CLASSES OF YOUR PLUGINS FINAL YOU STUPID

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:59 PM

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not all

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:59 PM

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why is it bad...

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well none of my stuff are extendable

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:59 PM

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then they should be final

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:59 PM

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except when i implement api in rolesync

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 9:59 PM

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make that non-final then

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simple

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 9:59 PM

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yeah why i said except

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 9:59 PM

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i never understood what final does

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:00 PM

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depends on the context

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Get this...

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:00 PM

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its like making something constant

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immutable

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:00 PM

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It makes it final

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OMG

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Big shock

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Sx

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I will smack you

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:00 PM

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please do

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:00 PM

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👀

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:00 PM

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D;
MY FEELINGS

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:00 PM

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dont make me do it

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:00 PM

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I'll help

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I will press send

📎 unknown.png

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:01 PM

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oh god

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don't do it

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:01 PM

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:(

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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to send this message you must've deleted the link again

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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true

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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checkmate

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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hopefully that's a good sign

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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oh lol i have a different colour now

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I will:
copy the link
go back onto discord
paste it
and press send

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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why is it bad tho

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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is that a THREAT

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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YES

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:03 PM

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whats bad about it..

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:03 PM

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non final classes?

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:03 PM

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I like threats

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:)

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:03 PM

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kinky

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:03 PM

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only?

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Well

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my threats are never empty

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https://hasteb.in/uficuxer.java

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:03 PM

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/*
 * Here is just for me because I have gotten confused many times
 *
 * • You're defining the island methods
 * • So getRange() getMembers() ect
 * • Define size, players, upgrades, flags, everything.
 *
 * • This way you can use the methods across the plugin.
 * Jesus christ get yourself together
 */
```excuse me

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:03 PM

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suffer

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Ignore that

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at the first part of making that god awful file

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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can someone answer why is it bad

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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why what is bad

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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because a subclass could change vital functionality

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Anyway, back to Island.java

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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NO

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it's cursed

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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When making that file

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Why enum map?

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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i got lost in what i was doing

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and confused

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I don't know

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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can someone answer why is it bad
@hallow tide it's not as severe as they make you think unless you're really depending on security and code integrity

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Instead of enum set

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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oh

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:04 PM

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hide

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I'll switch it to EnumSet then >:(

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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if its in the enum set, that means the value is true

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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that may have been me

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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yeah

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!

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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alex youre a 4head

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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i saw an enum and didn't even look at the value type

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BAM

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"USE ENUM MAP NOW"

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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security?

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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yes

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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oh because its not final?

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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if something overrides a method that could compromise security

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indeed

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Map<Enum, Value> map = EnumMap(Enum.class)

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Why is there an instance of skyblock in this?

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Not sure

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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You dont use it...

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delete it

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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okay

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Why is there a location in this?

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Both you and alex scare me >:(

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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  private int getX;
    private int getZ;``` I hate this

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i'm not scary

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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And why is there a world instance?

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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You keep asking me

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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😦

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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You're both scary :'(

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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😔

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:06 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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WHY

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WHY

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Its literally THIS CLASS

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I DIDNT KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:07 PM

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THATS NOT AN EXCUSE

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:07 PM

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?

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:07 PM

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IF I SAY IT IS, THEN IT IS

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:07 PM

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its litereally what?

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:07 PM

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As much as I bullied that dude in #off-topic for only learning from spoonfed code

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Can you fix it for me >:(

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:07 PM

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this ternary on the nullable stuff kills me

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WAIT

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WAIIIITT

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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ah yes, the amd phenom in all its glory

📎 unknown.png

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Do you convert the uuid to string and then back to a uuid

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what the HELL

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WHY

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I probably did

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ngl

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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this.owner = island.owner == null ? null : UUID.fromString(island.owner.toString());

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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at this point im not even gonna deny it

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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See now you get bullied

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This is what you get for sending it again

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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heh

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good

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:09 PM

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declares islandsSettingsKey as a parameter
doesn't use it at all

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:09 PM

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:D

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:09 PM

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the more you look at it

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the worse it gets

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:09 PM

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yes

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I love it

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:09 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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0 / 2

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KILL ME

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PLEASE

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:09 PM

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LMAOOOOO

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:09 PM

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😹

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😂

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:09 PM

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I should teach people what to not do in java

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:09 PM

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just send them that

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they'll instantly become experts

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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indeed

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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To be fair, we've all seen far worse

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@pallid gale I am hereby requesting another entry to =faq

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Are you sure

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are you sure

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I am

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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idk

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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ah yes

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i know one thing that is worse

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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This code would be in the upper half of the spigot code tier list

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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=faq

compact perchBOT Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@remote goblet

FAQ • Invalid Usage

=faq <faq key>
=faq list
?<faq key>

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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lemme find it

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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that's definitely pretty high in the list of "worst things I've seen"

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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=faq

compact perchBOT Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@remote goblet

FAQ • Invalid Usage

=faq <faq key>
=faq list
?<faq key>

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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ree

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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wow I envy you

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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=faq plsnoarrowcode

compact perchBOT Apr 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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FAQ Answer:

https://hasteb.in/adamogeh.java

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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thats pretty bad

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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actually

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yeah I take it back

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that's worse

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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yea

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Bukkit.getOfflinePlayer(args[1]).isOnline() confuses me so much

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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ik what could prob be worse

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https://github.com/dode5656/RoleSync/tree/35ce8cb907cc86e747fa17e75c5f9b1ce4ecfcfd

GitHub

dode5656/RoleSync

Contribute to dode5656/RoleSync development by creating an account on GitHub.

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my first ever code ^

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Let's dig out old code

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:12 PM

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OOH

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I found a great one a while ago

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I made a spigot tutorial when I was like 12

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:12 PM

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that one is just 🍝

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just read it 😂

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:12 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642493533940482059/695695462484934696/unknown.png

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:12 PM

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https://hasteb.in/bulowiva.swift

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record scratch

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:12 PM

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i spent about a minute trying to figure out why that didn't work

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:12 PM

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freeze frame

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yep that's me

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:12 PM

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you gotta be kidding me

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:13 PM

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oh god

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:13 PM

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oh

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my god

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:13 PM

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my code 2 1/2 years ago

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:13 PM

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https://github.com/dode5656/RoleSync/blob/35ce8cb907cc86e747fa17e75c5f9b1ce4ecfcfd/src/io/github/dode5656/donorrole/commands/DonorCommand.java

GitHub

dode5656/RoleSync

Contribute to dode5656/RoleSync development by creating an account on GitHub.

#

amazing 🍝

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:13 PM

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very nice

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:14 PM

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lmao

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i was scrolling down thinking "this isn't that bad"

#

AND THEN

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:14 PM

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compare it with the latest

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:14 PM

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https://github.com/BenHall-1/BungeeCord-Core sx what are your thoughts on this

GitHub

BenHall-1/BungeeCord-Core

A Fully-Featured BungeeCord Management System. Contribute to BenHall-1/BungeeCord-Core development by creating an account on GitHub.

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I see Main.java

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not good

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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This is probably the first lines of code I've ever written https://hasteb.in/ujevejiv.java

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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this is the latest https://github.com/dode5656/RoleSync/blob/35ce8cb907cc86e747fa17e75c5f9b1ce4ecfcfd/src/io/github/dode5656/donorrole/commands/DonorCommand.java

GitHub

dode5656/RoleSync

Contribute to dode5656/RoleSync development by creating an account on GitHub.

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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gotta love german compsci lessons

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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surprisingly clean considering

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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looks like russian to me

#

I still hate allman

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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lmao

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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i hate it

#

cant stand it

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

#

allman isn't that bad

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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burn it

#

It is

#

I hate it

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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why

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I don't know

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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the comparison of my first and latest code XD

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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it just adds more lines

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and it gives me anxiety

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Nein, dies ist inkorrekt. Ich werde eine Strafanzeige stellen

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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oui

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

#

I find allman kinda weird but it's alright

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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this gives me anxiety

📎 unknown.png

#

like fully

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:17 PM

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ik neek spreekt doichland

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:17 PM

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anxiety attack

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:17 PM

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ew if else

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Ew who still uses if statements

#

grow up

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:17 PM

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ikr

#

kinda embarassing ngl

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:17 PM

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?

#

how is it embarassing

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:18 PM

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the imperative virgin vs the logic programming chad

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:18 PM

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anyone heard of the anti if campaign

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:18 PM

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real developers use case switch 😎

im prob gonna get bullied for saying that

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:18 PM

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i use switch...

#

i remember making a getter in switch XD

ocean quartz Apr 4, 2020, 10:18 PM

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They are being sarcastic xD

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:19 PM

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get("x")

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will return x field

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:19 PM

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imperative virgin 😢

still uses traditional for loops
thinks that if it's not a keyword it doesn't work
"oh but forEach is slower!!!"

The declarative chad 😎

could work in any language with FP libraries
doesn't care about speed, developer comfort is more important
has never heard of if
thinks that streams are the second coming of jesus

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:20 PM

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FP?

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:20 PM

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(((())))

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:20 PM

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oh you poor thing

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:20 PM

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mmmm

#

functional programming

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:21 PM

#

anyone know this in javascript ```js
(function() {
//do stuff
})();

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:21 PM

#

uh

#

haven't you just done it

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:21 PM

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ah

#

but that is weird looking for me

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:22 PM

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((yes) i (((like) functional) programming, (why (do) you (ask?)))

#

okay that's just lisp to be fair

prisma wave Apr 4, 2020, 10:22 PM

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lmao

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:22 PM

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fish is an amazing language

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:23 PM

#

dont forget about RP notation

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:23 PM

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beautiful

remote goblet Apr 4, 2020, 10:23 PM

#

https://i.gyazo.com/d8d52e4f118f3e5992a7c2b5bff9b46a.gif @topaz bay

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:23 PM

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wait wasn't it just polish notation?

hallow tide Apr 4, 2020, 10:23 PM

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this is how you do fizzbuzz in fish ```
0voa ~/?=0:
voa oooo'Buzz'~< /

1+:aa1+=?;::5%:{3%:@??/'zziF'oooo/
^oa n:~~/

lunar cypress Apr 4, 2020, 10:23 PM

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i know that one is (+ 1 2) and the other is (1 2 +)

topaz bay Apr 4, 2020, 10:24 PM

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polish is before

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and reverse polish is after