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distant sun Jan 20, 2023, 4:14 PM

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Sealed means only certain classes can extend it iirc

old wyvern Jan 20, 2023, 4:14 PM

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15- preview and 17- released for sealed in java

pastel imp Jan 20, 2023, 4:15 PM

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distant sun Sealed means only certain classes can extend it iirc

that wouldn't fix the issue of having to have several classes for several games

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instead of a single class

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hence why I asked if this would work

agile galleon Jan 20, 2023, 4:16 PM

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that's what we were suggesting?

pastel imp Jan 20, 2023, 4:16 PM

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oh

old wyvern Jan 20, 2023, 4:16 PM

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pastel imp that wouldn't fix the issue of having to have several classes for several games

Yes, but it will allow the compiler to make sure you handle all "game" classes

ocean quartz Jan 20, 2023, 4:17 PM

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It's the best way to handle that

old wyvern Jan 20, 2023, 4:17 PM

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^

pastel imp Jan 20, 2023, 4:17 PM

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I am so confused ngl

ocean quartz Jan 20, 2023, 4:17 PM

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You don't want a single class that does half of things half the time

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Single responsibility principle

pastel imp Jan 20, 2023, 4:19 PM

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will have to research those

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Okay, so just to confirm if I understood correctly, create a sealed class (like GameItem or whatever) with all the common stuff everything has, then create a class for each game which has more detailed/uncommon proprieties?

prisma wave Jan 20, 2023, 4:23 PM

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the only difference between sealed and abstract is that sealed can't be extended by anyone

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only you can extend a sealed class

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which means you get some nice safety benefits but other than that it's the exact same

pastel imp Jan 20, 2023, 4:24 PM

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okay but like. is the logic correct that I sent?

prisma wave Jan 20, 2023, 4:24 PM

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and switch expression exhaustiveness relieved

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yeah ig

crude cloud Jan 20, 2023, 4:25 PM

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there is little benefit from sealed types in a project that isn't meant to be consumed as a library/framework

prisma wave Jan 20, 2023, 4:25 PM

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true

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except the aformentioned switch niceness

ocean quartz Jan 20, 2023, 4:27 PM

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Yeah mostly nice for switch

prisma wave Jan 20, 2023, 4:31 PM

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although...

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you could argue that even needing switch on subtypes in an OO context is bad design

crude cloud Jan 20, 2023, 4:32 PM

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yes

pastel imp Jan 20, 2023, 4:32 PM

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I am shit at making good coding designs lol

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chances are, even with what you guys told me, I probably will fk up somewhere and do a bad design

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lol

old wyvern Jan 20, 2023, 5:46 PM

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prisma wave you could argue that even needing switch on subtypes in an OO context is bad des...

OOP Bad?

prisma wave Jan 20, 2023, 5:46 PM

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obviously

old wyvern Jan 20, 2023, 5:46 PM

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Haskell moment : relieved :

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sneaky_simon

oblique heath Jan 20, 2023, 5:50 PM

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prolog moment

prisma wave Jan 20, 2023, 5:54 PM

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prolog relieved

pastel imp Jan 20, 2023, 7:34 PM

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now that I think about it, is all this really needed for a discord bot?

crude cloud Jan 20, 2023, 7:47 PM

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"a discord bot" doesn't really mean anything, it doesn't have any measures or limits

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it's like saying "a minecraft server"

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what you decide to include or exclude in it is up to you

pastel imp Jan 20, 2023, 7:47 PM

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gonna be real, I am a bit lost on how to properly execute this, I understood the theory you guys gave, but executing it is a bit different, but we will see

ocean quartz Jan 20, 2023, 8:10 PM

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interface Item {
  val name: String

  fun printItem()
}

class ColoredItem(color: String, override val name: String) : Item {
  override fun printItem() {
    println("$color-$name")
  }
}

class ShapedItem(shape: Shape, override val name: String) : Item {
  override fun printItem() {
    println("$shape-$name")
  }
}

fun doSomethingToItem(item: Item) {
  item.printItem()
}

fun main() {
  doSomethingToItem(ColoredItem("#fff", "bob")) // prints -> #fff-bob
  doSomethingToItem(ShapedItem(Shape.ROUND, "no-bob")) // prints -> ROUND-no-bob 
}

@pastel imp Still confused?

pastel imp Jan 20, 2023, 8:13 PM

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ocean quartz ```kt interface Item { val name: String fun printItem() } class ColoredIte...

kotlin, so yes, but suppose I can figure it out

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thanks

ocean quartz Jan 20, 2023, 8:14 PM

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Yes cuz java would be bigger and I aint typing more than that

pastel imp Jan 20, 2023, 8:14 PM

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fair

rotund egret Jan 20, 2023, 10:21 PM

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kotlin makes great shorthand for java

solemn laurel Jan 21, 2023, 11:10 AM

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kotlin is just skript 😎

cinder flare Jan 21, 2023, 11:13 AM

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someone should recreate Skript on the JVM platform

ocean quartz Jan 21, 2023, 11:20 AM

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That's already a project actually

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https://github.com/Moderocky/ByteSkript

GitHub

GitHub - Moderocky/ByteSkript: A compiled JVM language based on 'Sk...

A compiled JVM language based on 'Skript'. Contribute to Moderocky/ByteSkript development by creating an account on GitHub.

cinder flare Jan 21, 2023, 11:25 AM

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oh shit that's actually kinda cool

manic vector Jan 21, 2023, 12:29 PM

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Yo guys, is there a way to prevent player from using crafting table to fix tools? Like merging 2 swords/pickaxes/whatever toghether?

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Like setting the result to null?

solemn laurel Jan 21, 2023, 12:39 PM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/crafting-recipe-with-blank-result.404234/
in this post, ForbiddenSoul's last comment uses a PrepareItemCraftEvent

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

Solved - Crafting Recipe With Blank Result.

Hi,
We have a custom ItemStack made from Material.Diamond.
We needed the results of making, for example, the shape of a chest plate out of the custom...

manic vector Jan 21, 2023, 1:29 PM

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solemn laurel https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/crafting-recipe-with-blank-result.404234/ in th...

Isn't there a event?

solemn laurel Jan 21, 2023, 1:30 PM

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yes... PrepareItemCraftEvent

manic vector Jan 21, 2023, 1:31 PM

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I mean a event called when player fix tools by merging them

solemn laurel Jan 21, 2023, 1:32 PM

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hmm, maybe. im not sure if there is

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it seems a little specific to deserve an event

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oh

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found this on another thread

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call PrepareItemCraftEvent
check if event.isRepair() and then remove the result

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apparently PrepareItemCraftEvent has an isRepair method xD

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simple enough

manic vector Jan 21, 2023, 1:40 PM

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Yeah

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Perfect

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Tysm ❤️

ruby dew Jan 21, 2023, 3:04 PM

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solemn laurel kotlin is just skript 😎

nah bro the whole java thing is a skript

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JVM itself is already a running plugin for all the platforms

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and java bytecode is essentially skript

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so java is basically a scripting language lmao

prisma wave Jan 21, 2023, 3:37 PM

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theres no such thing as a scripting language

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it's a completely arbitrary term that doesnt actually tell you anything

ruby dew Jan 21, 2023, 4:08 PM

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it suffices as long as it tells me something lol

cinder flare Jan 21, 2023, 4:15 PM

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yeah scripting language is pretty unhelpful

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a better (though still critically flawed) distinction that people often correlate with "scripting language" is interpreted language

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which primarily applies to languages like Python, JS, PHP, Ruby, etc. that aren't compiled

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but I mean, technically languages like Java and Kotlin and C# are interpreted by the JVM, though they go through a compilation step first

ocean quartz Jan 21, 2023, 4:20 PM

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Well, the languages are compiled, the bytecode is interpreted

cinder flare Jan 21, 2023, 4:20 PM

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yeah bam i stand by my point lol

potent nest Jan 21, 2023, 4:27 PM

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https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2023/compiled_and_interpreted_languages_two_ways_of_saying_tomato.html I'll just leave this here

rotund egret Jan 21, 2023, 4:42 PM

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My favorite part of programmer culture is designing terms and systems and then disregarding terms and systems later

hard dagger Jan 21, 2023, 6:47 PM

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cinder flare a better (though still critically flawed) distinction that people often correlat...

I'm pretty sure scripting language refers to languages that don't have an explicit compilation step

prisma wave Jan 21, 2023, 6:49 PM

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that's interpreted languages

potent nest Jan 21, 2023, 7:01 PM

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rotund egret My favorite part of programmer culture is designing terms and systems and then d...

Sometimes it turns out that terms and systems weren't as good as thought

gusty fulcrum Jan 21, 2023, 8:25 PM

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Is mcm down?

humble prism Jan 21, 2023, 8:58 PM

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gusty fulcrum Is mcm down?

bbb?

cursive jolt Jan 21, 2023, 9:11 PM

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unfortunately it's still up for me

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I got excited when I saw "goodbyte MC-Market..." as an announcement

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but also unfortunately that was just the renaming announcement

hard dagger Jan 21, 2023, 10:28 PM

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prisma wave that's interpreted languages

Well with cypthon, python source code is not interpreted but it's still a scripting language

prisma wave Jan 21, 2023, 10:32 PM

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what is a scripting language?

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so hang on

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if i wrote a compiler for python, is it still a scripting language?

crude cloud Jan 21, 2023, 10:36 PM

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From that perspective then java is also a scripting language, since you can simply do java Whatever.java, passing a source file rather than a compiled classfile

prisma wave Jan 21, 2023, 10:36 PM

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true!

hard dagger Jan 21, 2023, 10:38 PM

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prisma wave if i wrote a compiler for python, is it still a scripting language?

Thats why i said with cpython because it depends on the implementation

hard dagger Jan 21, 2023, 10:38 PM

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crude cloud From that perspective then java is also a scripting language, since you can simp...

Yes lol

crude cloud Jan 21, 2023, 10:39 PM

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so java is then an interpreted language, a compiled language and a scripting language

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all in a single runtime

hard dagger Jan 21, 2023, 10:40 PM

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How is it interpreted

crude cloud Jan 21, 2023, 10:40 PM

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I can just pass and run from a source file

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without compiling anything

hard dagger Jan 21, 2023, 10:41 PM

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Im pretty sure that compiles it in the bg

crude cloud Jan 21, 2023, 10:41 PM

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it sure does but does that mean if i'm using V8 then javascript is no longer an interpreted language?

hard dagger Jan 21, 2023, 10:42 PM

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This is gonna get a bit confusing woth definitions

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java launcher automatically invoking the compiler and storing the compiled code in-memory

half harness Jan 21, 2023, 10:42 PM

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crude cloud From that perspective then java is also a scripting language, since you can simp...

wait you can?

hard dagger Jan 21, 2023, 10:42 PM

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Ig thats interpreted then (java not tallin abt js)

crude cloud Jan 21, 2023, 10:43 PM

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exactly

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it would be incredibly stupid if an "actual interpreted language" runtime didn't compile it to any form of ast before processing it

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and parse every single thing every time lol

near crown Jan 21, 2023, 10:43 PM

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can someone help #general-plugins ??

crude cloud Jan 21, 2023, 10:43 PM

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no

near crown Jan 21, 2023, 10:43 PM

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k

hard dagger Jan 21, 2023, 10:48 PM

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crude cloud it would be incredibly stupid if an "actual interpreted language" runtime didn't...

I wouldnt call bytecode a form of ast

crude cloud Jan 21, 2023, 10:55 PM

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no, but it certainly is the first step before getting to bytecode

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my comment was more about a runtime that does not perform any kind of compilation and does absolutely every single thing on the fly every time

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even an ast would be helpful to have cached for that

pastel imp Jan 21, 2023, 11:02 PM

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uhm random question, taking into account that there are several stuff in this object, would you prefer something like object.getName() (aka a method for each data) or should I store the data in a hashmap and get it via object.get(Type.NAME)? (PS: technically not all data needs to be present, if it isn't, it should return --) What could be the better practice/design?

prisma wave Jan 21, 2023, 11:05 PM

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hard dagger Thats why i said with cpython because it depends on the implementation

and my point is that the terms are utterly meaningless because there are so many different implementations

near crown Jan 21, 2023, 11:05 PM

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hey

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Brister mitten can ya help at #general-plugins

prisma wave Jan 21, 2023, 11:06 PM

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absolutely not

near crown Jan 21, 2023, 11:06 PM

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absolutely bruh

half harness Jan 21, 2023, 11:17 PM

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lol

crude cloud Jan 21, 2023, 11:29 PM

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lol

hard dagger Jan 21, 2023, 11:41 PM

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pastel imp uhm random question, taking into account that there are several stuff in this ob...

getName so the compiler and ur pther statoc analysis tools (like ur ide) can help u out more

half harness Jan 21, 2023, 11:44 PM

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I personally prefer getX rather than get(Type)

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for ex in Spigot, not all Attributes are supported on every entity, whereas with getX, you could just have an interface for that method (and IJ gives a warning for getting attributes because it is nullable which might get annoying to do Objects.requireNonNull)

distant sun Jan 22, 2023, 11:15 AM

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cinder flare Jan 22, 2023, 11:26 AM

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gimme that postgres hand sanitizer

static zealot Jan 22, 2023, 11:37 AM

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cinder flare gimme that postgres hand sanitizer

You are welcome

cinder flare Jan 22, 2023, 11:38 AM

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awe sweet

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excellent turnaround on that

manic vector Jan 22, 2023, 5:24 PM

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Is it just me or PrepareGrindstoneEvent is not working?

wind patio Jan 22, 2023, 5:37 PM

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what is not working exactly

crude cloud Jan 22, 2023, 5:40 PM

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the PrepareGrindstoneEvent

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duh

wind patio Jan 22, 2023, 5:43 PM

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fr?

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didn't realise

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not like there can be some event-related methods that he's trying to call and it's not working

half harness Jan 23, 2023, 8:16 PM

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BlockExplodeEvent#getBlock returns air

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great

dense dew Jan 23, 2023, 8:20 PM

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thepig

pastel imp Jan 23, 2023, 8:24 PM

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dense dew <:thepig:656735105318125579>

Oh I have received that email a while ago

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although their tracking site doesn't work

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Also, will probs have to pay 20 bucks of fees according to the email

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:-:

static zealot Jan 23, 2023, 8:27 PM

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dense dew <:thepig:656735105318125579>

oh. no mail for me yet 😭

pastel imp Jan 23, 2023, 8:28 PM

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I received my email the 12/01

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shouldn't take much time for you

dense dew Jan 23, 2023, 8:36 PM

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pastel imp Also, will probs have to pay 20 bucks of fees according to the email

im kinda confused whqt on the invoice is the fees?

pastel imp Jan 23, 2023, 8:40 PM

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dense dew im kinda confused whqt on the invoice is the fees?

no idea, I am also confused

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I assume that's what you have to pay for delivery

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etc

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no idea

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first time that participated in Hacktoberfest

static zealot Jan 23, 2023, 8:43 PM

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delivery is supposed to be free but there could be import taxes.

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I believe those are what can end up costing you money.

pastel imp Jan 23, 2023, 8:45 PM

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how am I even supposed to pay for this 👀

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oh I am blind

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there's an invoice number and reference

humble prism Jan 23, 2023, 9:04 PM

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pastel imp

thats cheaper

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cheap**

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(for the tshirt itself) not shipping

dense dew Jan 23, 2023, 9:15 PM

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my tshirt weights 0.00 lbs 😏

queen saffron Jan 23, 2023, 9:27 PM

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Congrats you've bought air

pastel imp Jan 23, 2023, 9:37 PM

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humble prism (for the tshirt itself) not shipping

still surprised since it was literally "free"

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but welp

half harness Jan 23, 2023, 9:42 PM

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aww I want a shirt :(

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I didn't know what to PR to though

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rip

pastel imp Jan 23, 2023, 10:53 PM

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half harness I didn't know what to PR to though

I was an "admin" on a project for hacktoberfest, could've asked me xD

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we were hosting a UI-UX web project

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basically several css/html components

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etc

half harness Jan 23, 2023, 11:16 PM

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pastel imp I was an "admin" on a project for hacktoberfest, could've asked me xD

oh

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😭

forest pecan Jan 24, 2023, 3:02 AM

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Intellij be trippin 💀

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I invalided caches, deleted all of gradle caches, and when i import my gradle project and build it with the gradle command it's successful but in Intellij its just syntax errors everywhere for some reason

half harness Jan 24, 2023, 3:04 AM

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forest pecan I invalided caches, deleted all of gradle caches, and when i import my gradle pr...

Try File -> Repair IDE button

🤷

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worth a try

forest pecan Jan 24, 2023, 3:34 AM

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idk what i did

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but it fixed it

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lol

ruby dew Jan 24, 2023, 5:45 AM

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so when is the gatekeeper gonna open up the gate?

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like it keeps asking you for the proof, but can you control the gate opening condition tho?

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does that involve messing with chatgpt? like beta character ai or something?

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@inner umbra i actually did the thing you tried to accomplish using simpler alternatives,
just by replacing the packet listener in the pipeline by my custom packet listener
theres no need for messing with low level socket tho (too hard for me lolz)

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also tried to bait for downvotes in the mean time

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also i could mess with the player counts and stuffs lmao

hard dagger Jan 24, 2023, 6:56 AM

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literally every time i use copilot it writes incorrect tests that i dont notice and spend 500 mins debugging my code when the test is wrong not the code

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and then i disable it cuz bad but then i have to write so boilerplate so i turn it back on and cycle repeats

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😭

ruby dew Jan 24, 2023, 7:17 AM

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chatgpt

glass vine Jan 24, 2023, 7:41 AM

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ruby dew so when is the gatekeeper gonna open up the gate?

working on it, he wil actually open or do anything interactable soon. still wip

wind patio Jan 24, 2023, 8:25 AM

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hard dagger and then i disable it cuz bad but then i have to write so boilerplate so i turn ...

if you don't validate the code it provides then it's your own fault

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it's like blindly copying from stack overflow, plopping it in without adjusting it and expecting it to work out of the box

hard dagger Jan 24, 2023, 8:34 AM

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wind patio if you don't validate the code it provides then it's your own fault

ik its my fault

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but the reason i use gh copilot is when im lazy

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cuz tests are boring af

crude cloud Jan 24, 2023, 10:12 AM

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distant sun Jan 24, 2023, 10:12 AM

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:)))

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Could not resolve io.papermc.paper:paper-api:1.19.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.
I hate when this happens p.p

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ah great, I had java 8 sdk for some reason

potent nest Jan 24, 2023, 10:41 AM

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crude cloud

please write unit tests

crude cloud Jan 24, 2023, 10:44 AM

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nah

hard dagger Jan 24, 2023, 11:28 AM

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crude cloud

Very real

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But my conclusion is yes because i like big numbers (like coverage)

inner umbra Jan 24, 2023, 12:39 PM

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ruby dew also i could mess with the player counts and stuffs lmao

Yeah with my code everything can be modified. And I'm making my packet system super simple, atleast by my standards. And it's all my own code so no injection, no minecraft code, currently no apis/libs.

ruby dew Jan 24, 2023, 1:04 PM

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inner umbra Yeah with my code everything can be modified. And I'm making my packet system su...

so that was purely a socket server that responds to ping packets?
thats super nice!

inner umbra Jan 24, 2023, 1:06 PM

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ruby dew so that was purely a socket server that responds to ping packets? thats super n...

Yeap

ruby dew Jan 24, 2023, 1:08 PM

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cpp or java?

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if its made in cpp i will give it a 10000 / 10

inner umbra Jan 24, 2023, 1:09 PM

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java

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But with how simplistic it is I'm sure the code can be ported to any language. (or at least most lol)

prisma wave Jan 24, 2023, 3:45 PM

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sneaky_simon

oblique heath Jan 24, 2023, 4:04 PM

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quiet sierra Jan 24, 2023, 5:42 PM

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inner umbra Yeah with my code everything can be modified. And I'm making my packet system su...

Doesn't seem that hard

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The real fun is the login process

crude cloud Jan 24, 2023, 5:57 PM

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encryption and compression yay

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dynamically added during login 😃

inner umbra Jan 24, 2023, 9:17 PM

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quiet sierra The real fun is the login process

That's next yes. And yeah after I got the hang of it, it doesn't seem hard but for never making a server software before it was pretty annoying to get a handle on packets.

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:03 PM

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I am being forced to learn packets 😢

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fking OSI and TCP

crude cloud Jan 24, 2023, 10:23 PM

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lol i remember having to study that in hs

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then i went ahead and never used any of that knowledge and it vanished from my mind, crazy

wind patio Jan 24, 2023, 10:26 PM

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Packets in high school what the fuck

crude cloud Jan 24, 2023, 10:27 PM

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communication systems

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studied for electronics technician in hs

wind patio Jan 24, 2023, 10:32 PM

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Yeah well I wasnt aware schools around the world have that kind of stuff in hs

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:36 PM

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ye

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in luxembourg you can choose a so called "section"

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for the last 4 years of hs

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(total is 7 years in hs)

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I studied 2 years engineering

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and now on my first of informatics

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(you have to do engineering to be able to go to informatics, don't ask me why)

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but yeah, like emily said, communication systems. We are literally just learning how protocols work like OSI and TCP... Overall networks, the types (LAN, PAN, MAN, WAN and GAN), circuit- & packet switching, etc.

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Now we are going a bit deeper into the layers of OSI & TCP respectively

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anyways enough speaking 💀

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:42 PM

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yeah we have middle and highschool combined into one and you can choose between 3 "directions" in the highschool part of the time spent there

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:42 PM

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wind patio Yeah well I wasnt aware schools around the world have that kind of stuff in hs

I had AP Computer Science in my US high school

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:42 PM

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that's quite limited ngl

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only 3 options xD I am not used to that

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:43 PM

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yeah what do you have

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:43 PM

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Here you have at least 8 directions you can follow for the last 4 years in hs

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:43 PM

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shesh

crude cloud Jan 24, 2023, 10:43 PM

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agile galleon yeah we have middle and highschool combined into one and you can choose between ...

that's not the norm where i live but to the school i went it is (the 3 "careers", high school is 6/7 years here)

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:44 PM

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yeah i get confuselled with different school systems and I don't exactly remember my time there

crude cloud Jan 24, 2023, 10:44 PM

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same

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:44 PM

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yeah no not here lol, you just take high school and get like, total of 8 electives over 3 years

crude cloud Jan 24, 2023, 10:44 PM

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every time brits or people from the us talk about this or that grade i'm like

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uh

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:44 PM

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well at least we don't have sixth form

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in most of the US, it's: 1-5th grade Elementary, 6-8th grade Middle School/Junior High, 9-12th High School

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:45 PM

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agile galleon yeah what do you have

I mean, it's in french (one of the main langs in luxembourg) but you can see the amount of sections

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For context, you go from 1st to 6th in primary school and then in highschool it's from 7th to 1st grade

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confusing, ik.

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:46 PM

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i see

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we have schools based on such topics

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:47 PM

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But for the first 2 years you have 8 options, and then you have for the last 2 years, 15 options lol

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:47 PM

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damn

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all in one school?

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:48 PM

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agile galleon we have schools based on such topics

this isn't a school based thing though, only some specific options are only available in some schools

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but ye pretty much yes

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:48 PM

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lulz

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:48 PM

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in my hs I have 12 from those 15

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11*

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Although my hs is specialized and known for being the best in informatics

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:48 PM

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pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:48 PM

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agile galleon

UwU german

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:49 PM

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KEKW_laugh

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:49 PM

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(totally hate it, but I understand it sadly)

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:49 PM

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same goes with french here lmao

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:49 PM

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fair

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although I also hate french

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sus

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:49 PM

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lmao

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:49 PM

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you saw nothing

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:49 PM

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what language you speaking then?

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:50 PM

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I am portuguese

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so at home portuguese

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but like

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speak with friends etc?

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:50 PM

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yeah

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:50 PM

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there's no specific language 💀

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:50 PM

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or with your teacher idk

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:50 PM

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everyone pretty much knows 5 languages

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so we do a big mix

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if we don't know a word in luxembourgish, we say it in english

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some convos legit start in portuguese, go to french, then to english, back to portuguese, then luxembourgish, then french, then german, then english, then french again and end with portuguese again

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😂

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:51 PM

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Ech Léift waarm Bunnen!

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:51 PM

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the power of speaking 5+ languages be like

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:51 PM

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lmao

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:52 PM

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agile galleon Ech Léift waarm Bunnen!

ech och

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:52 PM

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and I can't deal with 4 languages lmao

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:52 PM

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xD

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You kinda get used to it in luxembourg

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since you are forced to know at least 4

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AKA the 3 main ones french, german and luxembourgish... and english although it isn't main

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your own language, since most people here come from the outside and know another language

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like me with portuguese

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:54 PM

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nice nice

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:54 PM

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in theory, if we count the languages I can only speak a tiny bit

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I know 9 languages

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💀

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:54 PM

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mr language god

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:55 PM

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nha

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my cousin wins

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she knows 16 languages

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:55 PM

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no shut up

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:55 PM

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excluding dialects lol

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:55 PM

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i give up

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:55 PM

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She LOVES languages

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lol

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she has traveled the world

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good life ngl

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:56 PM

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pastel imp I mean, it's in french (one of the main langs in luxembourg) but you can see the...

this is an extremely confusing chart

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:56 PM

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cinder flare this is an extremely confusing chart

look it from bottom to top

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:56 PM

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that helps less

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like left to right?

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why are there two headers for the columns?

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:56 PM

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exactly the point

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uh

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1s

#

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red is from 4th to 3rd (hs)

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blue is from 2nd to 1st (hs)

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the numbers represent the grade

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:57 PM

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why are there two rows

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and why do they not go down

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:58 PM

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the letters behind is just the acronym for that section

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:58 PM

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like what do the numbers mean

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:58 PM

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pastel imp the numbers represent the grade

.

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:58 PM

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so there's multiple 3 and 4 grade?

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:58 PM

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besides in A3D, that's just arts and 3d stuff

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:58 PM

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cinder flare so there's multiple 3 and 4 grade?

yes

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:58 PM

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what the jesus

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:58 PM

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pastel imp For context, you go from 1st to 6th in primary school and then in highschool it'...

although don't forget to take this into account

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:58 PM

#

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look at that bad boy

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so hard to grasp

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:59 PM

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cinder flare

americans ☕

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:59 PM

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you read it top to bottom lol

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:59 PM

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yeah like the mcdonalds menu

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:59 PM

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like any well formatted data visualization

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 10:59 PM

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how many students does a high school in america even has?

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or in germany?

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 10:59 PM

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800

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 10:59 PM

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agile galleon yeah like the mcdonalds menu

and honestly, you kinda read that left to right depending

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 11:00 PM

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pastel imp how many students does a high school in america even has?

a largely varying amount

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:00 PM

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agile galleon 800

oh that's near us

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:00 PM

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they be getting less and less

cinder flare Jan 24, 2023, 11:00 PM

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my high school had 3000 students and we were only grades 10-12, some people i know went to schools with 400 people from 9-12

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:00 PM

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we have ~1k

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:00 PM

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nice

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and I still have no idea how 800 people fit in the building

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:00 PM

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now I am going to google german schools

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I am curious

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:00 PM

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dont

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:01 PM

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agile galleon dont

can't be that bad

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you are near me

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so I assume it's similar

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:01 PM

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i am what

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:02 PM

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agile galleon i am what

near me in the sense of germany is literally a few kms away from me

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the country

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not you

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this looks nice

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:03 PM

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xD

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:03 PM

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kinda similar to a school we have here too

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:03 PM

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i mean yeah

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:03 PM

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do you also have like swimming pools and football fields?

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integrated to the highschool

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:04 PM

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we don't usually have swimming pools

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:04 PM

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oh k

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:04 PM

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although there is usually one near

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:04 PM

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fair enough

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:04 PM

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luckily for me my swimming pool was like 10 meters away xD

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:05 PM

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agile galleon luckily for me my swimming pool was like 10 meters away xD

xD

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WHEN I had swimming

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mine was legit in the same building at my old high school

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agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:05 PM

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that looks clean

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:06 PM

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ye my old hs was quite new

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and modern

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it had like pretty much everything you can imagine

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:06 PM

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like half of the schools I went to are >50 years old

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:06 PM

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agile galleon like half of the schools I went to are >50 years old

oof rip

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also at my old hs

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:06 PM

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wasn't that bad tbh

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:06 PM

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I believe that

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I switched schools specifically because of sections

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they didn't had GIN (informatics) where I was

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this one is older

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although with the renovations it looks basically new

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:07 PM

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but we're really behind in it here KEKW_laugh

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not in my school particulary but in germany

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:07 PM

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oof

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different countries

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different management

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:08 PM

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def

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:08 PM

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luxembourg is also technically "rich"

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:08 PM

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shitty politics currently here

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:08 PM

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everyone says I am in a private school

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jokes on them, it's a public school

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:08 PM

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pain

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:09 PM

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I am rlly glad government here prioritizes education a lot

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:09 PM

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i can see

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:09 PM

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we are also the first country in europe (even world?) to have 100% free public transports

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:09 PM

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gimme

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:09 PM

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you might get it soon

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:10 PM

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i mean I have free cause school but

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:10 PM

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I recall hearing that several countries in the EU loved the idea

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:10 PM

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that not gonna work out here in Germany though

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cause Deutsche Bahn

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is shit

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:10 PM

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agile galleon i mean I have free cause school but

ye, but I had too, but it became free for everyone xD, it's even funnier, cause if you come from germany to europe, you have to pay

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but then you come here and it's everything free

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then to go back is also free lmao

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you only pay in germany

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in that case

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:11 PM

#

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:11 PM

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it's quite confusing

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:11 PM

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germany is in europe afaik, iirc

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:11 PM

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bruh brain fart

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meant germany to luxembourg

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😂

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:12 PM

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KEKW_laugh

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yeah go shit on DB

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we hate it too

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:12 PM

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xD

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welp should probably go to sleep

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:12 PM

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but it's like state stuff that's half privatized that didn't work out correctly, has expensive tickets and is ALWAYS late

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:12 PM

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gotta wake up at 6am 💀

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:12 PM

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same

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:13 PM

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so we only sleeping like 5h30mins

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lmao

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:13 PM

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although if I sleep now, I'll be tired in the morning

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:13 PM

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ye.. happens to me too..

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If I sleep more than 3 hours, I wake up dead

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I either sleep less than 3h or more than 8h lmao

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:13 PM

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same

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:13 PM

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in between and I am dead

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:14 PM

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stupid but true

pastel imp Jan 24, 2023, 11:14 PM

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but I am tired so will just... sleep 💀

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bye, gn, nice talk

agile galleon Jan 24, 2023, 11:14 PM

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gn

wind patio Jan 25, 2023, 7:17 AM

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pastel imp I mean, it's in french (one of the main langs in luxembourg) but you can see the...

From what I have read my country has a similar teaching system to France

distant sun Jan 25, 2023, 9:10 AM

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😭 why are my colleagues always like this

hard dagger Jan 25, 2023, 9:46 AM

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w indentation
w naming conventions
w java 8
w DRY

sly sonnet Jan 25, 2023, 10:28 AM

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why cant the property be just put inside the switch?

distant sun Jan 25, 2023, 10:33 AM

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Why can't he use Enum#valueOf 💀

remote goblet Jan 25, 2023, 10:36 AM

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that makes me break down emotionally

hard dagger Jan 25, 2023, 10:52 AM

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distant sun Why can't he use `Enum#valueOf` 💀

i thought they were constants cuz of the highlighting but thats even worse lmao

potent nest Jan 25, 2023, 10:56 AM

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switch might be faster

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They probably benchmarked it PepeLa

hard dagger Jan 25, 2023, 10:58 AM

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potent nest switch might be faster

it is faster lol cuz if its not cached it might have to allocate an array of all the constants and a hashmap so a second array

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but its a premature optimization

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"Premature optimization is the root of all evil"

potent nest Jan 25, 2023, 11:00 AM

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hard dagger it is faster lol cuz if its not cached it might have to allocate an array of all...

Did you benchmark it?

hard dagger Jan 25, 2023, 11:00 AM

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lol

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actually i have a proj with jmh open rn

agile galleon Jan 25, 2023, 9:16 PM

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i asked in JDA but got no response, is there a way to make the selection persist? https://upload.skyslycer.de/Discord_FxPxhmEQdb.mp4

▶ Play video

crude cloud Jan 25, 2023, 9:34 PM

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I've had that happen before, I think it's updating the message that does that on the client

agile galleon Jan 25, 2023, 9:45 PM

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yeah

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fixed it

pastel imp Jan 25, 2023, 11:00 PM

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doesn't it go away on client restart?

forest pecan Jan 26, 2023, 1:09 AM

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all those modifiers 💀

Screen_Shot_2023-01-25_at_8.08.37_PM.png

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public abstract static sealed

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i wonder what else you can add

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:11 AM

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strictfp

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redundant cuz its always strictfp now but u can

forest pecan Jan 26, 2023, 1:13 AM

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Ngl tho strictfp can be useful at times

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Like yeah its a joke cause you never have to touch it 99.9% of times

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but sometimes in like for ex a multiplayer game you don't want calculations to be different

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:15 AM

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forest pecan Ngl tho strictfp can be useful at times

no it cant

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as of java 17 it is literally useless

forest pecan Jan 26, 2023, 1:15 AM

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Wait yeah lmao i just checked

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:15 AM

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also non-sealed is slightly longer than sealed if ur going for longest modifiers

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im still not over the hyphenated keyword

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where is strict-fp!

forest pecan Jan 26, 2023, 1:17 AM

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!sealed 🤓

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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real

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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prisma wave also `non-sealed` is slightly longer than `sealed` if ur going for longest modif...

wait why is there even non-sealed

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surely that's just the default

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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no

forest pecan Jan 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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its to allow already sealed classes to be unsealed

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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^

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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oh I see

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how does that work

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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sealed class subtypes are sealed by default

forest pecan Jan 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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^

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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ah

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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so you have to explicitly mark them as non-sealed

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:19 AM

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that does indeed make sense

forest pecan Jan 26, 2023, 1:19 AM

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you can seal certain part of the hierarchy while also unsealing others

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:19 AM

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imagine knowing things about java

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im a python dev now

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all i know is self and **kwargs

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:19 AM

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i hope you die in a horrific and tragic fashion

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:20 AM

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kwargs makes for nice to use interfaces

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java is also kind of nice

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languages without function overloading are not nice

forest pecan Jan 26, 2023, 1:20 AM

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php is also kind of nice

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:20 AM

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what

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no

forest pecan Jan 26, 2023, 1:20 AM

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lol

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:21 AM

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bro tried sneaking php in there

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:21 AM

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im ngl, my dream api is one function that takes like up to 20 kwargs and has every option you'd want as a kwarg

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:21 AM

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thought we wouldnt notice

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:21 AM

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java and especially rust like separate classes/objects just for configuration are the bane of my existence

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:22 AM

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what the hell

#

that's a terrible take

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:22 AM

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nah bro

#

i want one like database.connect() that takes every connection parameter i might want

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you can split it up yourself like in the implementation if you want

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:23 AM

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terrible

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:23 AM

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but constructing 5 configuration objects just to make one thing makes me want to stab someone

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:24 AM

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grow up

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all i can say

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:24 AM

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what lol

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what benefits does that even apply

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it just makes more objects in memory

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:24 AM

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who cares

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:24 AM

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me and the lines of code it takes to create them

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like they're literally just data classes

#

just pass the params straight in what's the point

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:25 AM

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cinder flare what benefits does that even apply

easy deserialisation, copying is easier (eg "use all of these settings but with a different host"), better code organisation in that it's easier to split up the config loading and usage

#

and you dont need to write functions with 30 parameters

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and yes i know you said kwargs

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:25 AM

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yeah you only use the ones you want

#

that's the point

#

like 3 required params and the rest optinoal

#

cause most people won't use like any

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:26 AM

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you could say the same about config objects

#

look at like hikari

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you make a single config wrapper, set the normal attributes and then never touch it again

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:26 AM

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yeah but config objects take a line to instantiate then a line per setting

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instead of just inline params

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:26 AM

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.let {} 🤓

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:27 AM

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they have that in java?

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:27 AM

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cinder flare instead of just inline params

i bet there are many other things that you cant do inline in python

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:28 AM

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cinder flare they have that in java?

 public static <T> T also(T t, Consumer<T> consumer) {
        consumer.accept(t);
        return t;
    }

 return also(vehicleFactory.createVehicle(vehicleConfig),
                curry(flip(this::spawnVehicle)).apply(location)
        );
``` 😁

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worst thing ive ever written

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:28 AM

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bro yeah what lol

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just gimme kwargs

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:28 AM

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no

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:29 AM

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prisma wave easy deserialisation, copying is easier (eg "use all of these settings but with ...

you have conveniently ignored all of these points

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:29 AM

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what do i want to deserialize, i'm putting arguments into a function

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:29 AM

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well for example, database credentials

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from a config

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:29 AM

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i rarely need to copy and if i want to, i can make a python dict and then spread keyword it out

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:29 AM

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prisma wave well for example, database credentials

os.getenv()

crude cloud Jan 26, 2023, 1:30 AM

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imagine if you could do

ConnectionFactory cf = ConnectionFactories.get(args[0]);

and took something like r2dbc:driver://user:password@host:port/database?prop1=val1&prop2=val2 and realised what driver to use from it too
damn if only there was a database connection library that did it

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:30 AM

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what lol

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:30 AM

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cinder flare `os.getenv()`

🤓

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:30 AM

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i don't want connection strings

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i want type safe parameters

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named parameters, even

#

very easy to read

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:30 AM

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bro talking about type safety in python 😭 😭

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:30 AM

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well theoretical type safety lol

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:30 AM

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barking up the wrong tree mate

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:30 AM

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unenforced type hints 😌

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:32 AM

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So useful

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:32 AM

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yeah they're good for my ide

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:32 AM

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Actual static typing is way better

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:32 AM

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to be fair I did just recently get bitten by doing a refactor of a form and trying to access old data

#

i agree

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:32 AM

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hard dagger Actual static typing is way better

TRUE

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:32 AM

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i would love a statically typed language with a kwargs style

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:33 AM

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Builder pattern 🙄

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:33 AM

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OOP 🤣

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:33 AM

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builder pattern is certainly an improvement over making 15 data objects

#

but still kinda yucky

sweet cipher Jan 26, 2023, 1:33 AM

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cinder flare i would love a statically typed language with a kwargs style

Isn't kwargs just basically a dictionary as parameters?

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:33 AM

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sweet cipher Isn't kwargs just basically a dictionary as parameters?

Yes

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:33 AM

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yeah that's literally just a record type lmao

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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i've recently noticed kotlin's like "builder" init block thingy where you like pass in this and set stuff

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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like the exact same thing

sweet cipher Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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So then how would you make that statically typed

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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it's pretty sweet

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

#

sweet cipher So then how would you make that statically typed

record type

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in other words

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a data class

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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yeah less so the actual mechanics of it and more the style

#

i guess you can do that with just optional unordered named arguments

sweet cipher Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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But don't you not have to pass all the possible values?

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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yeah so default values

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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Why not just use a map

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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easy in kotlin

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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hard dagger Why not just use a map

you wouldnt get name and type safety

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:35 AM

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yeah what lol

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:35 AM

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cinder flare i guess you can do that with just optional unordered named arguments

this is the summary of the dream

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just nobody in other languages ends up doing that

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:35 AM

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prisma wave you wouldnt get name and type safety

Ooh i thought he was tallin abt **

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:35 AM

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and some languages don't even have function overloading so it gets even worse

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:36 AM

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hard dagger Ooh i thought he was tallin abt **

well we are, but in a hypothetical static language

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:36 AM

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what is the 2 stars for? python? lmao

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:36 AM

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Yes

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:37 AM

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i mean the primary reason i use python now is Django

sweet cipher Jan 26, 2023, 1:37 AM

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Because Python is 2 stars out of 10

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:37 AM

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no other web framework has come close

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:37 AM

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sweet cipher Because Python is 2 stars out of 10

Real

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:38 AM

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cinder flare i mean the primary reason i use python now is Django

Django feels so messy

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:38 AM

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messy? it's one of the most structured, that's why I love it so much

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it's batteries included and has an awesome structure for everything

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excellent conventions for where every type of file goes, configuration in the programming language instead of like xml files, awe man it's great

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:39 AM

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@cinder flare gimme a good example of what you want

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im not trying to argue

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just experimenting

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:39 AM

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prisma wave <@186255788212355073> gimme a good example of what you want

https://ldap3.readthedocs.io/en/latest/connection.html

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scroll down to Connection parameters are:

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:39 AM

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ok

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oh my

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thats a lot

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:40 AM

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yeah

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but you only end up using like, 4 or 5

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        con = Connection(LDAPPool.pool, auto_bind='NO_TLS', client_strategy=SYNC,
                         user=settings.LDAP_AUTH_CONNECTION_USERNAME,
                         password=settings.LDAP_AUTH_CONNECTION_PASSWORD, check_names=True)

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:40 AM

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cinder flare excellent conventions for where every type of file goes, configuration in the pr...

only if u r using spring from like 60 years ago 😭

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:40 AM

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that's my usage

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:41 AM

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hard dagger only if u r using spring from like 60 years ago 😭

ktor has config files too, though in .conf instead of xml

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i dunno, i just really like batteries included frameworks

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:41 AM

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config files are good actually

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:41 AM

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building my own from a microframework is ass

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:41 AM

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config in code is nice and all

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but in practice

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config files are far easier to hotswap

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no need to recompile anything

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:41 AM

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the point is .env files bm

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read and validated at runtime

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:41 AM

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hows that any different to a config file

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:41 AM

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not checked into your version control

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:42 AM

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why is that required for xml??

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:42 AM

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prisma wave hows that any different to a config file

i suppose it's not really but the version control thing and the integration with docker compose

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:42 AM

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hard dagger why is that required for xml??

huh?

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:43 AM

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cinder flare huh?

no ones forcing u to add an xml config to vcs

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:43 AM

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okay

half harness Jan 26, 2023, 1:43 AM

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prisma wave hows that any different to a config file

.env = one central config

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:43 AM

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and u can use env vars in spring for everything

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:43 AM

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okay but i'm not using spring brother

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:44 AM

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half harness \.env = one central config

you can do that exact principle with any file format

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:44 AM

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the point is docker integration

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that's the biggest thing

half harness Jan 26, 2023, 1:45 AM

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prisma wave you can do that exact principle with any file format

I mean for things other than programs

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like nodejs

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besides that idk

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:45 AM

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and docker mostly lol

crude cloud Jan 26, 2023, 1:45 AM

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i'm sure spring has docker integration lol

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:45 AM

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yes but that's not what i'm talking about

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you make one .env file with your postgres user/pass/host/etc. and then import it into your web app and into the postgres docker container so that they match

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but yeah most of my opinion on web frameworks is batteries-included vs not

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there aren't many batteries included and basically all the big ones have a thing i don't like

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Spring is in Java, Rails is kind of outdated and is in Ruby, Laravel is in PHP

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and that's basically all the batteries-included frameworks i can think of

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:49 AM

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what's wrong with spring being in java?

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:50 AM

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Java is tedious to write for many reasons lol

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:50 AM

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ok so use kotlin then

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or scala

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:50 AM

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yeah i mean i feel like if i ever to swap it'll be spring with kotlin

rotund egret Jan 26, 2023, 1:50 AM

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jython

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:50 AM

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but still i dunno how much i like spring, annotation hell and all that

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:50 AM

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or jython!

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perfect

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:51 AM

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the organization feels bizarre from what i've seen

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oh I also quite like languages with map literals I've come to realize

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like that's a big part of why i like python so much

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:52 AM

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use groovy 💀

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:52 AM

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[(a, b),
 (c, d)]
``` 😌

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:52 AM

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lol

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:52 AM

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best literals

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:53 AM

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i mean the good old json-style ```python
dict = {
'pog': 3,
'gamer': 'pogchamp',
}

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what, it just makes the most sense to my brain

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maybe i've looked at too much json lol

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:54 AM

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def map = ["name":"Jerry", "age": 42, "city": "New York", "hobby":"Singing"]

close enough

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:54 AM

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oh yeah i mean that could be okay

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is that groovy though lol

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:54 AM

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yes lmao

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:54 AM

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oh no

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:54 AM

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why groovy is the best lang ever

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nothing wrong with it

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:55 AM

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you're dissing my language choices and you like groovy lol

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:55 AM

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cinder flare you're dissing my language choices and you like groovy lol

its a joke

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im not that crazy

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:55 AM

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ah

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:55 AM

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cinder flare ```python con = Connection(LDAPPool.pool, auto_bind='NO_TLS', client_str...

was gonna try make a type-safe version of this in haskell but i dont know how and cant be bothered. it's quite easy if you just throw runtime errors for unknown values though

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might try again tomorrow

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 1:56 AM

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spock alr tho

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:56 AM

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you could do it with like a type level list of all the set attributes

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and then have calling the function like merge that list with the defaults

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somehow

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:56 AM

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moral of the story, i feel like kotlin is my best way forward in terms of modern language for web backend but there aren't any really good batteries-included frameworks

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maybe C# and ASP.NET Core? I've heard good things from one of my friends but the ecosystem is kinda cringe i feel like

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:57 AM

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F#

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😌

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:57 AM

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i mean yeah theoretically i would like to

rotund egret Jan 26, 2023, 1:57 AM

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Kotlin#

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:57 AM

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but i think im at a point where i just want a nice procedural lang yk

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 1:58 AM

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ew

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 1:58 AM

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there really aren't that many nice ones though man, it's kinda painful

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oh I also just had to do a MIPS assembly assignment

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so maybe that's why I'm pining for super high level languages lol

prisma wave Jan 26, 2023, 2:10 AM

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you know what’s even higher level than procedural?

ocean quartz Jan 26, 2023, 2:25 AM

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cinder flare but still i dunno how much i like spring, annotation hell and all that

Dude Spring is magical, I am having to learn backend dev so I've been watching our backend dev do things and it's bizzare, add a class here add annotation there, and boom you have a microservice fully functional
I'm always like "what wtf, how does that work" - "I have no idea" lmao
Jokes aside, it surprises me how much is done for you in the background and just adding a few annotations change the behaviour completely
Sometimes you add a library that you don't even have to touch and it'll change how everything behaves

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 2:42 AM

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ocean quartz Dude Spring is magical, I am having to learn backend dev so I've been watching o...

I mean that's similar to how a lot of Django works with class-based views, just less magicky and annotation-y

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though even DRF uses annotations, i dunno, the java lifestyle just feels so outdated

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maybe it's better in Kotlin?

ocean quartz Jan 26, 2023, 2:44 AM

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Probably, never really used it with Java so can't comment on the differences

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I do know it works nicely with coroutines and kotlinx.serialization

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 2:47 AM

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ocean quartz Dude Spring is magical, I am having to learn backend dev so I've been watching o...

real

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 2:47 AM

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well that doesn't sound so bad then

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maybe I should reevaluate

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 2:48 AM

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u should try micronaut its more modern and if u know spring u dont its easy to learn

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 2:48 AM

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my thing is I want batteries-included

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i don't want to find a separate orm and authentication framework and serialization library and template engine and piece em all together

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 2:49 AM

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u dont have to tho

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spring handles most config

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 2:49 AM

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isn't micronaut, as the name implies, a micro framework?

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 2:49 AM

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cinder flare isn't micronaut, as the name implies, a micro framework?

micro for microservices

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 2:50 AM

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it does not look very opinionated

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convention over configuration, etc. etc.

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 2:54 AM

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thats good

cinder flare Jan 26, 2023, 2:54 AM

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well no because that's what I like about Django

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there's one big tool for a lot of things

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there's one ORM, there's one templating language (mostly), there's one file for your views and it's called views.py, etc.

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makes it easy to scale and makes it easy to get acquainted with a new project if you are introduced to one

hard dagger Jan 26, 2023, 3:02 AM

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hard dagger thats good

Nvm i read that wrong i thought u said it doesnt look unopinionated

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 9:37 AM

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When adding ads to a website, can you somehow make google place the ads in specific places where you want them to be so it doesn't break the design??

wind patio Jan 26, 2023, 11:34 AM

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iirc yes, it is possible

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https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/9183363?hl=en
https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/9190028?hl=en
no?

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 11:38 AM

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oh so you add hat ins with class adsbygoogle, nice

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:00 PM

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FINALLY

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received my Hacktoberfest stuff

static zealot Jan 26, 2023, 4:00 PM

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damn. I didn't even receive an email yet

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:00 PM

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😦

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congrats afonso

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:01 PM

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ty

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:01 PM

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I still cant track mine ffs

ocean quartz Jan 26, 2023, 4:01 PM

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Gaby be like

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:01 PM

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also received these

rn_image_picker_lib_temp_cab4fcbf-a5e5-4ac3-8602-734e231f0e54.jpg

static zealot Jan 26, 2023, 4:01 PM

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ocean quartz Gaby be like

and also me

static zealot Jan 26, 2023, 4:02 PM

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pastel imp also received these

I still have the ones from last year. I'm not really that much into stickers

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:02 PM

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ocean quartz Gaby be like

exactly

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:02 PM

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static zealot I still have the ones from last year. I'm not really that much into stickers

yeah isnt like i will stick them anywhere xD

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:03 PM

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My beloved

rn_image_picker_lib_temp_5e18f779-ef2d-45f8-8160-14b0da1df576.jpg

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:03 PM

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PROCESSED AT LOCAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER
11:45 PM EET, ROBUHC, RO
yesterday 😮

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looks like the tracking url is broken on mobile, but works fine on desktop

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:04 PM

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had to patly 6 bucks

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god damn taxes

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:04 PM

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distant sun looks like the tracking url is broken on mobile, but works fine on desktop

wait rlly?

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I didnt think about trying it on mobile

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so I just didnt track it

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lmao

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:05 PM

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yeah it says Bad Request on mobile

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:05 PM

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came home today to find out it came today

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but it wasnt working for me either

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yo what

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I got free credits on appwrite.io

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and 100 bucks credit in digital ocean

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:07 PM

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damn what

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:08 PM

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quite a W

potent nest Jan 26, 2023, 4:08 PM

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distant sun looks like the tracking url is broken on mobile, but works fine on desktop

other way round for me, on desktop it tries to access the url via http, mobile browser seems automatically switch to https

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:09 PM

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oh .. I didn't realise it is http in email

potent nest Jan 26, 2023, 4:15 PM

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Yeah I've only seen it today too

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:18 PM

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looks like I have 200$ credits on digital ocean, is that some new user bonus?

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:21 PM

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distant sun looks like I have 200$ credits on digital ocean, is that some new user bonus?

think it is

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cause the 100$ credits I got were from a qr code

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totally different page

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:22 PM

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it expires in 60 days, I think it is

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:22 PM

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oh

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then it might be? no idea

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:23 PM

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nvm I got an email saying I've received 200$ "promotional credit"

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no

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@pastel imp did you got the code via email?

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:24 PM

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distant sun <@310721759110496257> did you got the code via email?

no qr code

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:24 PM

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wrong channel, and you need to verify your purchase and to be patient

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:24 PM

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behind this

rn_image_picker_lib_temp_1f4cf1d4-6fee-4ac5-aaa2-8b9b0292b92f.jpg

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 4:24 PM

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yeah but from where Afonso?

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ohhhhh

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lol

pastel imp Jan 26, 2023, 4:25 PM

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xd

chilly zenith Jan 26, 2023, 4:31 PM

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@hot widget Don't mass ping.

timber oak Jan 26, 2023, 10:03 PM

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Which server jar would you guys say is the most efficient in 1.19?

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As in Paper, Purpur etc

half harness Jan 26, 2023, 10:04 PM

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timber oak Which server jar would you guys say is the most efficient in 1.19?

most stable & efficient = probably Pufferfish

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there's also a newer one which is a fork of Pufferfish but I don't remember the name

timber oak Jan 26, 2023, 10:05 PM

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Oh wow dkim lvl 7, nice

#

I'll try Pufferfish then, ty

ocean quartz Jan 26, 2023, 10:12 PM

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Paper is more than enough for most people, if you want more custoizability then Purpur

half harness Jan 26, 2023, 10:14 PM

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I mean he specifically mentioned most efficient 🤷
I personally use paper since my updater script uses paper and I couldn't find a pufferfish api

timber oak Jan 26, 2023, 10:15 PM

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But going from 1.12.2 to 1.19 is a huge change in required performance, right?

ocean quartz Jan 26, 2023, 10:16 PM

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Yes, but not as bad as how 1.13 was

timber oak Jan 26, 2023, 10:25 PM

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I see, what makes the later versions require better hardware? New map generation?

#

I mean it’s a lot of things, but what are the main reasons

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From 1.12.2 to 1.19 for example

agile galleon Jan 26, 2023, 10:26 PM

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just look at the changes

agile galleon Jan 26, 2023, 10:30 PM

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half harness I mean he specifically mentioned *most efficient* 🤷 I personally use paper sin...

What Pufferfish API?

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ooh downloads

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 10:32 PM

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they use jenkins, you can get the last artifact from here https://ci.pufferfish.host/job/Pufferfish-1.19/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/libs/pufferfish-paperclip-1.19.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-reobf.jar

agile galleon Jan 26, 2023, 10:33 PM

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yeap wanted to find the link

distant sun Jan 26, 2023, 10:33 PM

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https://www.jenkins.io/doc/book/using/remote-access-api/
https://ci.pufferfish.host/job/Pufferfish-1.19/lastSuccessfulBuild/api/

ocean quartz Jan 26, 2023, 10:44 PM

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timber oak I mean it’s a lot of things, but what are the main reasons

There is just more of everything in newer versions, think of it like carrying around boxes, the more boxes you add the harder it is to carry, that's mc, the more features they add etc it gets worse

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But ofc there are optimizations they do once in a while like in 1.15

ionic gust Jan 27, 2023, 2:18 AM

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im so used to spigot's command handling that i remade it in JDA (java discord api) 😭

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my god its so scuffed

cursive jolt Jan 27, 2023, 2:21 AM

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don't use pufferfish api

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it's the same api as paper

hard dagger Jan 27, 2023, 2:44 AM

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ionic gust im so used to spigot's command handling that i remade it in JDA (java discord ap...

Bad api + bad api

ionic gust Jan 27, 2023, 2:48 AM

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hard dagger Bad api + bad api

pro gamer + pro gamer = srnyx

#

rekt

#

no argument

half harness Jan 27, 2023, 3:04 AM

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ionic gust im so used to spigot's command handling that i remade it in JDA (java discord ap...

thonking

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like this?

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I hope you didn't

#

💀

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it's fine for minecraft but not so much for discord

ionic gust Jan 27, 2023, 3:21 AM

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half harness

oh lmao no not like that that

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just like how commands r created/managed by the plugin (in this case, the bot)

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public abstract class CoCommand {
    @NotNull protected final Cobalt cobalt;

    protected CoCommand(@NotNull Cobalt cobalt) {
        this.cobalt = cobalt;
    }

    public abstract void onCommand(@NotNull SlashCommandInteractionEvent event);

    @Nullable
    public Collection<Command.Choice> onAutoComplete(@NotNull CommandAutoCompleteInteractionEvent event) {
        return null;
    }
}

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then i just extend the abstract class when making new cmds ^

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here's simple one without autocomplete:

public class Invite extends CoCommand {
    public Invite(@NotNull Cobalt cobalt) {
        super(cobalt);
    }

    @Override
    public void onCommand(@NotNull SlashCommandInteractionEvent event) {
        if (isOwner(event)) event.replyEmbeds(new CoEmbed(CoEmbedType.SUCCESS)
                .setTitle("Bot invite")
                .setDescription(cobalt.jda.getInviteUrl(Permission.ADMINISTRATOR))
                .build()).setEphemeral(true).queue();
    }
}```

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matt is typing im going to get bullied now 😭

ocean quartz Jan 27, 2023, 3:23 AM

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Oh dw nothing to do with your problem, it's actually me that have a problem

ionic gust Jan 27, 2023, 3:23 AM

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what happened to spongebob's teeth :( https://tenor.com/yiL5.gif

Tenor

Sigh of Relief

▶ Play video

cinder flare Jan 27, 2023, 3:26 AM

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ionic gust just like how commands r created/managed by the plugin (in this case, the bot)

pov: user discovers basic interfaces and object oriented programming

ionic gust Jan 27, 2023, 3:29 AM

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cinder flare pov: user discovers basic interfaces and object oriented programming

shhhhhhhhhhhh, its actually "user discovers java exists outside of spigot"

ocean quartz Jan 27, 2023, 3:29 AM

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I need a math expert, given 2 points in a grid, how would you count how many points are available inside?
Under you'll see an example of an it on an inventory, the top stone is at min position which is 2, 2 (starting from 0 ofc), the second stone is at max position which is 4, 4, the area would be 9 slots, I can get to it using 2 fors, like:

for (row in min.second..max.second) for (col in min.first..max.first) {
    counter++
}

Counter would be 9, but I'd like this to be done with math instead, any big brains?
I know (min.second..max.second).count().times((min.first..max.first).count()) gives the same result which I could turn into some funky math but idk if there is something better and it's too late for my brain to think

ionic gust Jan 27, 2023, 3:30 AM

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ocean quartz I need a math expert, given 2 points in a grid, how would you count how many poi...

isnt it just something using A = lw

cursive jolt Jan 27, 2023, 3:30 AM

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(4 - 2 + 1) * (4 - 2 + 1)

ocean quartz Jan 27, 2023, 3:32 AM

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Yeah that one I had gotten, was expecting to need to type less kek

ocean quartz Jan 27, 2023, 3:33 AM

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ionic gust isnt it just something using A = lw

Sir, it's 3am, what is A, l, and w?

cinder flare Jan 27, 2023, 3:33 AM

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area = length * width is what i'm guessing

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which is true for rectangles lol

ocean quartz Jan 27, 2023, 3:34 AM

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Ah, well it'd all turn back into the range count above, aka what define sent

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I'll just go with it, too tired

ionic gust Jan 27, 2023, 3:35 AM

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cinder flare area = length * width is what i'm guessing

yeah lmao

cinder flare Jan 27, 2023, 3:35 AM

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is that range count just subtraction?

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because you can do that with just subtraction

ocean quartz Jan 27, 2023, 3:35 AM

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Yeah it is

cinder flare Jan 27, 2023, 3:35 AM

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ah okay good

half harness Jan 27, 2023, 4:02 AM

#

🤔

fair latch Jan 27, 2023, 3:25 PM

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With DeluxeMenus , is it possible to add a custom item game in menus ?

distant sun Jan 27, 2023, 3:25 PM

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ask in multiple channels, see if anyone knows LOL

static zealot Jan 27, 2023, 3:26 PM

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distant sun ask in multiple channels, see if anyone knows LOL

that is sarcasm just to make sure.

fervent tinsel Jan 27, 2023, 4:40 PM

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ocean quartz I need a math expert, given 2 points in a grid, how would you count how many poi...

convert into single point (2,2 (would be 11, if start from 1, not zero), 4, 4 (31) -> (row - 1) * 9 + slot, might be reduced) -> subtract (p2 - p1) (31 - 11 = 20 (can simply do -1, and that's it, 19), size between 2 points)

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smth like that

wind patio Jan 27, 2023, 4:47 PM

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(abs(x2-x1)+1) * (abs(y2-y1)+1), no?

#

given your example
(abs(5-3)+1) * (abs(5-3)+1) = (2+1) * (2+1) = 3*3 = 9

fair latch Jan 27, 2023, 5:53 PM

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Who knows how to disable possibility to Push other players

#

I can move a player from spawnpoint to warzone . How to disable it

wind patio Jan 27, 2023, 5:59 PM

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Some .yml server config does that, I think. paper or spigot one, idrm

fair latch Jan 27, 2023, 6:34 PM

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I have configs

#

But where :-'(

agile galleon Jan 27, 2023, 6:34 PM

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google it

wind patio Jan 27, 2023, 6:39 PM

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https://docs.papermc.io/paper/reference/global-configuration#enable-player-collisions

Paper Global Config | PaperMC Documentation

Global configuration options exposed by Paper will affect all worlds on a server, or the server

#

there, I did googling for you

fair latch Jan 27, 2023, 7:06 PM

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I have spigot

#

wait

#

I found solutions

#

I have to download some specific plugins

#

Thanks

wind patio Jan 27, 2023, 7:53 PM

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well, don't

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use paper

#

fingerguns

sly blaze Jan 27, 2023, 9:12 PM

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How can I get the name of everyone within the Guilds category, I tried that but it's returning []


        List<String> guildc = ylc.getStringList("Guilds.");

I want to get the "TKBOGAESFOLADO" and the "gate" etc, everything inside "Guilds"

  TKBOGAESFOLADO:
    Owner: YTDragon00100
    Name: TKBOGAESFOLADO
    Level: 0
    Members:
    - YTDragon00100
  gate:
    Owner: YTDragon00100
    Name: TKBOGAESFOLADO
    Level: 0
    Members:
    - YTDragon00100

mental trench Jan 27, 2023, 9:14 PM

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Set<String> names = ylc.getKeys(false);```

sly blaze Jan 27, 2023, 9:15 PM

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would this get only the guild names?

mental trench Jan 27, 2023, 9:15 PM

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i have no clue what are the guild names

sly blaze Jan 27, 2023, 9:15 PM

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TKBOGAESFOLADO and gate?

mental trench Jan 27, 2023, 9:15 PM

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but it will return

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RKBOGAetc

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gate

sly blaze Jan 27, 2023, 9:15 PM

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ah ok

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that's exactly what I wanted I'll be here

mental trench Jan 27, 2023, 9:16 PM

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fingerguns

sly blaze Jan 27, 2023, 9:21 PM

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in case I'm going to need a List<> and the way you sent me didn't work very well

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I need a List<> for me to use in the hashmap I created

half harness Jan 27, 2023, 9:25 PM

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mental trench RKBOGAetc

it'll return Guilds

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(if you do it on the ylc variable)

sly sonnet Jan 27, 2023, 9:38 PM

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sly blaze How can I get the name of everyone within the Guilds category, I tried that but ...

matt's config lib >>>

rotund egret Jan 27, 2023, 9:38 PM

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Configurate is pretty hot

half harness Jan 27, 2023, 9:39 PM

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sly sonnet matt's config lib >>>

it's no longer being updated btw

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for a couple reasons

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🥲

sly sonnet Jan 27, 2023, 9:40 PM

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i mean it still works

half harness Jan 27, 2023, 9:40 PM

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ye

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but kotlinx >>

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😌

sly sonnet Jan 27, 2023, 9:40 PM

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what's that

half harness Jan 27, 2023, 9:40 PM

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configuration library for kotlin

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but

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I can agree that spigot config = bad

rotund egret Jan 27, 2023, 9:50 PM

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half harness configuration library for kotlin

well no
kotlinx is the namespace for extension libraries for kotlin.
Two notable libraries being serialization & coroutines.

half harness Jan 27, 2023, 9:57 PM

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ye thats what i mean

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i should've clarified tho

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thx for the clarification

distant sun Jan 27, 2023, 10:55 PM

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does IJ have that side bar thing from VSC where you can see your code and where you are currently?

crude cloud Jan 27, 2023, 11:04 PM

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there's a plugin for it

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@ocean quartz knows

ocean quartz Jan 27, 2023, 11:04 PM

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Codegleance or something like that

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Ah CodeGlance3 is the actual name

queen saffron Jan 27, 2023, 11:06 PM

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Close enough xD

distant sun Jan 27, 2023, 11:09 PM

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thanks bb

crude cloud Jan 27, 2023, 11:10 PM

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np

queen saffron Jan 27, 2023, 11:11 PM

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quaint isle Jan 28, 2023, 7:42 PM

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who needs regex when there's chat gpt 😏

rotund egret Jan 28, 2023, 7:46 PM

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Just going to make an api call to chat-gpt to format something for me instead of using a regex expression

queen saffron Jan 28, 2023, 10:57 PM

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50$ a month

agile galleon Jan 29, 2023, 9:43 AM

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Can anybody figure out what's causing these spikes? https://spark.lucko.me/jEZWXPlLBb

spark

spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.

wind patio Jan 29, 2023, 11:07 AM

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first mistake is running on windows 💀

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first thing I notice is entities, chunks and tile entities drop down at the moment when tps drops

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and you're using clearlag - dont

agile galleon Jan 29, 2023, 11:15 AM

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Not my profile, thank you very much

wind patio Jan 29, 2023, 11:41 AM

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I'm not a certified spark profile analyzer so dont take my word for it, this is just what I noticed

agile galleon Jan 29, 2023, 11:55 AM

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Yeah no it makes complete sense

timber oak Jan 29, 2023, 12:08 PM

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Is it possible to update a 1.12.2 world to 1.19? Even though the world generation is entirely different?

static zealot Jan 29, 2023, 12:20 PM

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I'm not entirely sure. I know between some versions you basically have to upgrade version by version but idk for how many versions that works

crude cloud Jan 29, 2023, 12:24 PM

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pretty sure you can upgrade just by straight up running the newer version, but of course make backups as always before performing major updates

humble prism Jan 29, 2023, 12:36 PM

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U mostly can, u can't downgrade tho, and World generation will only affect new chunks that hasn't been generated, except for the new world height

rose wharf Jan 29, 2023, 12:41 PM

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How to make in the plugin to appear behind the player particles OR resistance appeared?

timber oak Jan 29, 2023, 1:48 PM

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I see, thanks

tidal pecan Jan 29, 2023, 1:54 PM

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i have a vehicle plugin and when i try to place it says you cant place vehicle in this world

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why 😭

wind patio Jan 29, 2023, 1:56 PM

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this is not a #dev-general related question, use #minecraft or #general-plugins
check permissions
ever heard about configuration files
we are not magicians, we don't know why

tidal pecan Jan 29, 2023, 1:57 PM

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ik that i was saying why like someone who just lost a love one would say why

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lets see if someone else can help me in #minecraft

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and i wont say why just for you bbg 😉

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nvm i figured it out

pastel imp Jan 29, 2023, 2:11 PM

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me reading this: 💀

wind patio Jan 29, 2023, 2:22 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/yh-gif-25406060

Tenor

half harness Jan 29, 2023, 10:05 PM

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Is there a way to bring back the warning that occurs when you run/debug a configuration already running?
I accidentally pressed the checkbox to disable it ._.

crude cloud Jan 29, 2023, 10:20 PM

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half harness Jan 29, 2023, 10:58 PM

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missing 😖
oh well its not a huge deal

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for me that checkbox says "Store as project file" instead

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oh nvm found it

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it was below in a dropdown "Modify options"

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ty

crude cloud Jan 29, 2023, 11:09 PM

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what intellij version do you have?

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help → about

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actually i don't care

cinder flare Jan 29, 2023, 11:22 PM

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crude cloud actually i don't care

realest discord support response

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i usually just stop responding to their pings/messages

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but this is much funnier

crude cloud Jan 29, 2023, 11:41 PM

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lol

agile galleon Jan 29, 2023, 11:48 PM

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I agree

wind patio Jan 30, 2023, 3:18 PM

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recommend me an idea for a website for my bachelors degree project

hard dagger Jan 30, 2023, 4:28 PM

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wind patio recommend me an idea for a website for my bachelors degree project

ask chat gpt

static zealot Jan 30, 2023, 4:37 PM

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wind patio recommend me an idea for a website for my bachelors degree project

A website where you can upload images with metadata and then you can see all the images uploaded and also lets you get only some images by using filters on the metadata. And then you can add a theme to that website such as cat species.

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So people can add images of a cat and add metadata such as cat species, age, etc they can also use filters to get an image of a cat that is a specific species and between ages x and y

wind patio Jan 30, 2023, 4:40 PM

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so basically an image storing platform, similar to, let's say, imgur?

wind patio Jan 30, 2023, 4:40 PM

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hard dagger ask chat gpt

been there, done that

pastel imp Jan 30, 2023, 4:57 PM

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I mean, does a bachelor project need to be unique/fancy?

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lol

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doesnt it just need to prove you know what you are doing?

static zealot Jan 30, 2023, 5:02 PM

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wind patio so basically an image storing platform, similar to, let's say, imgur?

I guess? Tho I believe there isn't really a way to filter based on user inserted metadata?

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Or I guess that's what tags are for

wind patio Jan 30, 2023, 5:32 PM

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pastel imp doesnt it just need to prove you know what you are doing?

basically, yes

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but fancy - easier pass, as usual

static zealot Jan 30, 2023, 5:43 PM

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what's wrong with my idea? Are cats not fancy enough for you? :))

distant sun Jan 30, 2023, 6:00 PM

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pastel imp I mean, does a bachelor project need to be unique/fancy?

Yes, especially if you want a good grade and want to get a master's degree as well because that's the only place where the grade matters - at least that's how it works here.
But if you just want to pass, bare minimum is enough.

pastel imp Jan 30, 2023, 6:15 PM

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fair enough

distant sun Jan 30, 2023, 6:24 PM

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export declare type InferIdType<TSchema> = TSchema extends {
    _id: infer IdType;
} ? Record<any, never> extends IdType ? never : IdType : TSchema extends {
    _id?: infer IdType;
} ? unknown extends IdType ? ObjectId : IdType : ObjectId;```
This looks .. cursed

pastel imp Jan 30, 2023, 7:59 PM

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Guys

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and girls

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I have an urgent question.

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How to deal with procrastination? 💀

static zealot Jan 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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pastel imp How to deal with procrastination? 💀

I'll tell you once I feel like finding out.

pastel imp Jan 30, 2023, 8:01 PM

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pure example of procrastination be like

remote goblet Jan 30, 2023, 11:18 PM

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its been so long since ive written a kotlin plugin im kinda struggling

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ive completely abandoned all my knowledge of this language

distant sun Jan 30, 2023, 11:27 PM

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Ikr

spring yew Jan 31, 2023, 12:01 AM

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remote goblet ive completely abandoned all my knowledge of this language

thats a good thing 😁

long dagger Jan 31, 2023, 12:26 AM

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pastel imp How to deal with procrastination? 💀

just dont procrastinate

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you gotta have that alpha male top g mindset

rotund egret Jan 31, 2023, 2:33 AM

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remote goblet its been so long since ive written a kotlin plugin im kinda struggling

by lazy {}

zinc vapor Jan 31, 2023, 7:22 AM

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is it possible to edit a datapack with just the given zip?

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or would i need the source code or something

humble prism Jan 31, 2023, 7:45 AM

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The datapack/zip is the source

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Iirc

distant sun Jan 31, 2023, 7:54 AM

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Yes

rose wharf Jan 31, 2023, 8:22 AM

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NICEEE!!!!!!!

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I received all JetBrains products for free

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Yay!!!

spring yew Jan 31, 2023, 8:40 AM

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student license op

rose wharf Jan 31, 2023, 8:51 AM

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spring yew student license op

agile galleon Jan 31, 2023, 4:09 PM

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What could have caused this? https://paste.skyslycer.de/VUSdt I am very, very confused

pastes

a simple pastebin.

obtuse gale Jan 31, 2023, 4:33 PM

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hi guys

crude cloud Jan 31, 2023, 5:59 PM

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hi

wind patio Jan 31, 2023, 6:34 PM

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well, you could write some code for it

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probably

distant sun Jan 31, 2023, 10:43 PM

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https://github.blog/2023-01-30-action-needed-for-github-desktop-and-atom-users/
Tl;dr update github desktop and atom

The GitHub Blog

Alexis Wales

Action needed for GitHub Desktop and Atom users | The GitHub Blog

Update to the latest version of Desktop and previous version of Atom before February 2.

sly sonnet Jan 31, 2023, 11:06 PM

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What is the correct way to compile chat-chat?

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because i can't seem to be able to do that