#minecraft
1 messages · Page 79 of 1
Creeper
aww man
So we back in the mine
Got our pickaxe swinging from side to side,
side side to side
This task a grueling one, hope to find some diamonds tonight
What’s the name of that partner server something like craft... it’s like a server to help unicef or something like that
craftathon?
Ye thx
gugu, gaga
is that baby language
No it is the language of the gods
isn’t that the same thung
nvm I got it
If you need help with plugins go to #general-plugins, or #general-plugins-2, if it has to do anything with placeholderapi use #placeholder-api.
If it has something to do with a premium plugin of Clip's you'll have to verify it through #spigot-linking.
Sorry, my auto clicker was accidentally enabled.
Hello humans
creeper
Is creeping
oof
Hype
@shy robin
The community these days, legit think shit's free
community
what community
MCM
welcome to MCM/Spigot
the whole MC community..
^
how is it that shit lol
wew sorry
that was the first run
Done (81.430s)! For help, type "help"
the same tho
@wet oasis If you want me to do that deluxemenus thing for you I could, but you'd have to configure the server expansion for each server
1.14.4
ya...
Who still uses normal Spigot 😮
lol
When you hear the name "Clustercraft". What is your first impression of the name?
Does it sound like a community or Server hosting provider for Minecraft servers?
lets all tag him
types in chat, but doesn't respond to question
:kappa:
Currently working on a custom spigot for 1.14.4 as I can't deal with the default one.
@wet oasis big nerd
@wet oasis hEy NuB
o
still doesn't respond
lol
will 6gb be enough for a server to hold 60-100 players ON THE SAME MAP ? server has 42 plugins
What version?
1.12.1
gamemode?
Why not .2?
But, yes, you should be able to. After 1.8, 1.12 is the best version for performance
there's no glitches lol
.2 Paper can do it easily
dont tell me "lol"
there are glitches
u dont know anything about pvp if u say there;'s no glitches
or u havent tried it
@wet oasis thanks btw
Sure
lmao
Will someone please appraise my server:
no
Thanks but I just need someone to help me sell my server
Thanks
what is your server?
i cba make an account
Well its a skyblock server with a logo,domain and established discord server
how many players?
That logo isn't worth $50
^
What are those weird red lines on the logo supposed to be?
If you want my honest appraisal..
Logo: $25 - It seems like it was just a static, already existing image with some 3d text drawn on it and a helmet
Builds: $20 - It seems extremely basic and a lot of it is very flat, and not detailed
Domain: Whatever .club domains go for - It's not OG, nor a word. Any reason the .com, .net and/or .org weren't chosen?
Can't really appraise the gameplay/setup since no server to join. But, it seems generic, so, $40
Bringing my total to... $95 + a .club domain
And, that's being nice xD
seems fair honestly ^
Yeah, logo seems weird
The logo looks off centered with the whole image alone, and the Viking boat.
ye
the logo bothers me w/ the off-centerness of it
What logo
they said it was $50

Ik kitto
personally I'd have put the name etched in the boat/ on the sail or on a flag/ on the boat, like the crew
saw better logos
¯_(ツ)_/¯
The red lines are so bad
whats the pex node adding perm to a spefic tag to a user, using deluxe chat
linked
🔗
What everything i need to start earn money for making setups ? on mc market
a non broke community
😭
Make a setup, buy mcm premium to be able to sell it, upload it and ure done 😄
aBoo, go check out what I sent (it's an image) in this channel
Reworded some things, aswell as mentioned (briefly) about the unlimited args
hub? i just changed few markdown things and something i dont remeber
Hi
I was wondering if someone knows like an online website/program that is like a MC GUI builder, it lets you make your GUI and then it gives you the code... I saw some people using some kind of thing like this but never found it
GUICreationTool on Spigot?
Or, DeluxeMenuMaker (https://placeholderapi.github.io/DeluxeMenuMaker/)
Like not deluxemenu
Like real bukkit code
I saw some GUI creators
But they just like an api
I was searching for like that deluxemenumaker
But instead of giving me the dm code
It gives me bukkit code
Or the class
Someone ^^
Doubt that'd be a public thing
Quick question, how much would a custom 1.14.4 jar cost?
Depends on what you mean by "custom"
in general fixing some performance issues, (similar to paper, but all of them)
That's more hiring and paying a dev team to work on the server software and forgoing vanilla behavior in a loooot of cases
Tho if paper can’t fix it, then I don’t see a single dev doing it
ye that's true
The problem is that 1.14.4 is so intense on the cpu it's hard to have a server working perfectly with it
Well I have been working on a custom spigot for 1.14.4
I sent Charlie a sample run test time with 0 plugins and the default three worlds randomly generated
Did you know that enderman used to have green eyes?
It’s on Minecraft’s newest video
That’s why the eye of ender is green
And the endermans eyes were changed due to the nether portal color even though it’s not the same dimension
ASD, have you been able to improve performance even more than paper did or?
Haven’t worked on today and haven’t even looked at Papers
My custom 1.14.4 launches up in around 10 seconds
Without plugins for testing purposes at this moment
paper launces in about the same time, (with plugins)
will test it without plugins later
like 10 times to see how consistant it is, and let you know
Creeper
Aww man
So we back in the mine
Got our pickaxe swinging from side to side
Side, side to side
This task, a grueling one
hope to find some diamonds tonight,
night night diamonds tonight
Heads up
You hear a sound, turn around and look up
total shock fills your body,
oh no its you again
I can never forget those eyes,
eyes eyes eyes
eyes eyes
'Cause baby tonight,
the creeper's tryin' to steal all our stuff again
'Cause baby tonight,
you grab your pick shovel and bolt again,
And run, run until it's done,
done, until The sun comes up in the morn'
'Cause baby tonight,
the creeper's tryin' to steal all our stuff again,
Just when you think you're safe,
overhear some hissing from right behind,
Right, right behind
That's a nice life you have,
shame it's gotta end at this time, time, time,
Time-time-time-time
Blows up, then your health bar drops,
** its time to stop **
ikr
@cedar bramble you’re such a hard worker honestly
Hm?
WHY ARE YOU ALL RUINING THIS
WHY ARE YOU USING CAPS I THOUGHT WE WERE A CHILD FRIENDLY SERVER
AHHHHHHHHHH
Lmao
Creeper
Panda
creeper
aw man
So we back in the mine
Got our pickaxe swinging from side to side
Side side side
🦀
this task a grueling one?
hope to find some diamonds tonight
night night
diamonds tonight
Heads up
You know 1.14 is shit when ever Hermicraft's server is struggling
LMAO IS IT
1.14.4 isn't that bad
after the server reaches 30 players the tps is just hammered
[16:27:43 INFO]: TPS from last 1m, 5m, 15m: 20.0, 20.0, 20.0
hackerman
1.14 isn't too bad so long as you can keep it happy
It's just figuring out how to keep it happy and avoiding some of the common traps can keep tps reasonable
Not at 1.12.2 player counts yet, iffy around 1.13, but overall it's pretty o.O
Just gotta balance load between servers and use cross server chat to simulate 1 server kappa
What most people have been finding bad on 1.14 for lag is the pillager outposts, they are over spawning a lot, can be fixed though.
lol
Issue is chunks in general, tbh
Villagers just suck in general for performance due to their AI, and 1.14s butchering of chunk performance is just... ouch...
@wet oasis No way that's legit.. the cpu strain in 1.14 is so intense you can't get that, you running a custom jar or?
Also are all those players on 1 server or all they spread out, and what kind of a server is it
i used always deluxemenu 1.11.6 and now i upgrade to 1.12.0 is the menus not working i can only open the menus
can someone plz help
Why ask in 3 channels?
I'm running a custom jar for 1.14.4 and it's not a modified Paper Spigot as didn't want to have their events and modifications, so made my own (launches a server with 5-10 plugins) in 10-15 seconds (will show proof whenever I get onto my pc)
@charred oriole Read my message.. multiple servers that are mirrored and use cross server chat
@wet oasis ya tagged wrong per xd, @polar pasture
U guys got any tips on how to grow a community for your server? Other than "use votifier" because idk how useful that REALLY is
advertisements
Social media helps
Voting sites
- .org
- mcmp
- topg
- pmc
Online communities
- pmc
- mcforums
Social media campaigns:
- Facebook ads (best)
Influencers
- YouTubers
- Streamers
- Getting reposted on Twitter
Advertising discords
seems relatable
A ton
Lol. Facebook ad will not great for me 👀 @cedar bramble. 90% of my friends doesn't know much English ._.
i didnt know about the (best) part
i mean i dont even have a fb account :p
and never had one
be glad
im lol
Facebook ads target at 13-18s across the world are quite cheap for a large reach. Non English speaking countries are all on FB, and you get a decent ROI
any good mc servers with unique "features"
I was gonna say Charlie :p
xDD
yes @drifting thistle
xD
@weak crane the plugin is just a simple one where i type /<something> and it returns something
It's dependent what you mean by unique? some unique features are likely if not mostly uncopyable.
I mean from what ive learned over the course of running a server, its having cash, to make cash.
Make many servers, spoof players, hype up your server.
Current trends, drop hella cash on advertising.
Should work 
isn’t mc specific lol, to make cash you need cash

@drifting thistle ^
I dont see why spoofing is a bad thing, as long as you do it right, spawn in npcs that move, get them to log chat, get them to respond to players, have them perform commands, some really wild ai shit, if it works, it works.
Plus, a younger person would problably join a server with 500 players over one with 30.
plus you're a bad person while doing it 
^
🤷 if it makes money it makes sense
There's really no way to express it nicely so I'm not going to say it, but you know what you're being if you do that.. you're also ruining the experience for the player
Hey I wouldnt mind you being blunt if im being blunt.
I think spoofing is fine
As long as the server is developed nicley, I dont see why spoofing a few extra players will harm anyone :p
If you do in moderation
Being someone who made the dankest spoofer, https://i.imgur.com/dLtDyyM.png
thats my view and it got 8 winners
This is charlie
i thought your chavita
I am :p
I own your spoofer
hahahaha
lmao
i dont own that spoofer anymore
tho i have a new priv one
but not selling
Everyone has a price 😉
this new 1 is BEAST
Its wild seeing the whole squad again
it actually hooks into server and same
I saw owningprod the other day
I took a 7 month break from mc
he rememebred my old servers :p
so only recently came back
Same haha
amirite
ohh yu
xddd
even tho u scammed me a while ago
your chill ❤
❤ im older now :p
xD ye we all change
i cant dig at u for past, cuz we all did shitty things we regret
I wonder what happend to raj
I tried to get into contact with him the other day
oof
lmao I know he was gay :p
hahaha ik
I remember he use to do fent, i hope hes doingfine
my spoofer made antvenom join
essentials let me /tp
i could eco set him
i could use any plugin 😉
Smartspooferboi
datboi
the new dev maintaining mcspoofer is chill
he doing a good job
Nextis getting the chat to log
i can make them say stuff
Getting em to talk
dead easy
the server sees them as a real payer
That would kill it, make em learn from users
so placeholderapi works
and even deluxechat
So they reply to players based on previous responses andw hatnot
yee
ai
i wanna have them fake vote, donate etc
😂
Im saying, see, business isbusiness
All thetop server owners would agree lowkey
i wanted to stick by that i wouldnt EVER sell, cuz it wouldn't feel right
All of em own like 2-3 servers
after selling my old spoofer
it would feel like a stab
I wouldnt sell it, kepe it private 😉
eh ig xd
maybe i need to add my cmd system to it
and show u
😛
EVERY plugin works
gonna have to man, god damn it its 5am
xdd
accept my friend req
school starts in 2 weeks and im not ready
damnn
sleeping at 2pm till 9pm lmao
HAHAHA
i basically live in the uk
thats crazy
oof
Pretty sad tbh
Spoofing is perfectly fine if done right, I read a business focused book, and it touched on something similar
In the principle that if many people are somewhere, your attention naturally gets drawn
and it makes you want to "be there"
ye but you're basically conning people into thinking you're "relevant"
Not rly
You'd spoof a tiny fraction
of your real count
@polar pasture read this: https://i.imgur.com/dLtDyyM.png
Even had 8 winners from it, i think everyone understood it more
when they saw
The way I discuss it above, is how I see it as fair
Of course if you added like 100 players, and your server only had 10
then you're not doing it right. However if you're only adding lets say 10/20% then its fine imo
optifine not letting me open it in java. It opens console then closes intantly
instantly*
Well yeah.. they only work on business days, not weekends @drifting thistle.
I shouldnt have boughti t on a friday afternoon
😭
Techno might win mcmonday again
need some help with deluxe menu's
https://gyazo.com/e1ba28e19b17cdee3a483469ade02fa4
thats the setup of the deluxemenu gui but when clicked on in game it does nothing
Wrong sound 100%, also #general-plugins
So... How do I import a mahoosive schematic into a 1.14.4 world when fawe only supports up to 1.13
How could i do that? I can't paste it in to split it up into pieces
Try on a lower mc version
Use the other AsyncWorldEdit
Or that
1.14 version is premium though if I'm reading correctly
nvm I just have to compile it myself
✅ problem solved
ty
https://hatebin.com/kdstkplzmq I am getting this error, which points to me calling a custom event when a player sends a message in chat
(I changed the various class and method names so its easier to understand)
Oh
"Revenge, Minecraft" by Johnny Dee (saw this due to YT's recommend system)
Johnny Dee is amazing
Lmao
?hidden-roles
How to get hidden roles (categories) in discord
Create a new role with the name you want and set the role's color to #2f3136 (Discord's background color)
ty
😃
don't spoil it, I didn't watch it till the end cuz internet died
@drifting thistle I wish it was otherwise 😂
Someone should make minecraft esports
Techno could pay off his student debt
@drifting thistle Who won mcmonday btw?
did they not fix the points?
nope
the one week Lakee isn't there :p
haha
ye ik
@shell basin Head over to #spigot-linking
Imagine Skeppy and Technoblade on the same team on Mc Monday
I try not to imagine such things
anyone know how to make an unuseable sword? like a broken sword with the red text?
I don't get it
is there a way to turn a chunk into a slime chunk
either by worldedit or something else
nope
Weird ass questions
lol
haha google is your friend!
I tried google. But using google for a question that linear results in very little
Youwant to search something like how to turn a normal chunk into a slme chunk
I have setup my server and it seems that even though the Hub abd Proxy is op, no one can hjjoin the hub, why is this"
It says nos fallbaclk
Is anyone able to help me with messageannouncer?
or just general support
please
Its supposed to play a sound when it broadcasts but it doesnt
I think sounds on my server are just broken but idk why
like if you place an anvil it will make a sound but the commands dont work and other plugins with sound dont work
im on 1.13.2
hi everyone
good morning
@eager ginkgo 😉
thanks
what host?
I can invite you to their discord and they can answer your questions
dont use the basic packages for a production server (imo the premium ones are way better but more expensive)
we cant see your cart
5 GB RAM
• 5 GB RAM
• Premium Hardware
• Unlimited Slots
• Unmetered SSD Storage
• Up to 120 Gbps DDoS Protection
• 10 MySQL Databases
• Intuitive Pterodactyl Panel
• Auto/Pre-Installed jars
• 99.99% Uptime SLA
• Auto-Backups
• One month of Unlimited Web Hosting FREE
@polar pasture We do $1.50 p/GB
I sent you an invite to their discord, it'll be best if they tell you what you need etc
What are the specs though
5 GB RAM
• 5 GB RAM
• Premium Hardware
• Unlimited Slots
• Unmetered SSD Storage
• Up to 120 Gbps DDoS Protection
• 10 MySQL Databases
• Intuitive Pterodactyl Panel
• Auto/Pre-Installed jars
• 99.99% Uptime SLA
• Auto-Backups
• One month of Unlimited Web Hosting FREE
so would that be good
@smoky leaf ever happened for the folders to stay opened for too much and the server to lag (dunno how to explain this, it happen on sparked for me)
I've never even heard of that
Yes thats where our server is colocated
wish you had a node closer to EU xD
You should get a node in WI
@drifting thistle For 5GB of Ram, 12 Databases, unmetered SSD and CPU Usage, Pterodactyl Panel, Unlimited Slots, Hosted out of Dallas, TX on a dual Intel Xeon CPU is $8.50
what host
what are the specs drew? Interesting into buying a server from there 
Once I finish getting my new sneaker server I bought set up and send it off and get it set up with the Virginia Beach data center I will look into it, cause it would be nice to have another location that is over seas
sneaker server what is that
sadly
A bot that displays when the new sneakers are out I am guessing?
A sneaker server is a server with really good specs thats hosted out of Virginia Beach (where all the big shoe companies host)
Used to be in those kind of discords from getting early notifications of when new Supreme stuff came out.
Ah
They run a bot that scans websites for price drops and rare items then it auto buys it
buy a bunch then sell them or?
nice
If you join my Discord we have a sneaker-success channel you can see some of their successes
For example
Shouldn't this be in #off-topic not mc anyways.
how much are they?
Oh god I don't know but theyre expensive shoes
Plus its not like theyre buying to wear em, they just sell em after a week
I bed my grand grand father had one of these for work 😹
lol
Arent they expensive just because of the seller / people that wear (or have made) them?
Yeah me too
Oh and @slow imp its a Dual Xeon x5670
@smoky leaf got a discord server? If do, invite me ❤
👍
wow smh
They have only two letters in common I don't think so
using default 1.13.2 mc. I can change spawners with a spawn egg. What permission is this?
Finding builder that can build 30 Mines (for Prison server). I'm willing to pay, affordable price.
@muted coral I recommend #606650908880666628
Which setup u think i could create ? ( example survial ? skyblock )
Hi I have BungeeTablistPlus and LuckPerms but when i put ${player luckperms_primary_group} for ''Rank : (rank)'' on the tablist nothing apen
I was pinged?
the pic in #off-topic
@smoky leaf Yes
I'm hoping Mc Monday #8 won't be as broken as last week, Techno and Dan could be a good team
honestly i stopped watching the other week, became boring to me
who were you watching?
err idk forget name
What's the first letter
Is ban animations going to be updated to 1.13.2? It is an amazing plugin that I am very sad to see not updated.
Well that's the author decision 🤷
They ruined Mc Monday when they started inviting randoms 
what is mc monday

Where do I go for support regarding quicksell
@polar pasture there is in addition of someone actually caught the moment when Skeppy accidentally reveal the Mc-Monday ip during his stream 😂
lmao
We have 24g ram on our server is that too much. Would it be causing issues
We have 22 plugins and max around 25 players
Pretty sure that 24GB ram on a server it's overkill
Its not like it would cause issues
Not an expert but 24 sounds a bit too much.
over allocation causes more work for java as it's handling more memory
With aikars flags, that's technically not an issue assuming that gc can keep up with young/mixed collections, however it you can't, that is going to huuuuuuuurt
can someone look at my server and tell me why we are getting issues?
@wooden rapids what server
I'd recommend at least about 4gb for a huge server, but 24gb is overdone 🤔
How much Hypixel is using btw 😂
Anyway, pretty sure the condition Wheresthereceipt 's server has only needed about 2gb i think
xD
Well it is not optimized then or nodecraft is using some crappy hardware
So i use the /lagg gc command and ram goes down 30% but then 5 seconds later it rises back up
the hosting ram probably not that good :/
where u bought your server and 24gb ram is overkill because u can run there like 6servers on 4 gb ram or more
he owns mineplex, thats why 😉
i run mine with 60+ plugins with 6-7 gb ram
The is definitely something wrong with my server
There*
Should I ask the server host what type if ram the server is using?
Is there any mechanism in your server that works aggressively?
Can you explain that further?
Like, plugin usage or whatsoever
I don’t know how to check plugin usage. I was looking for how to do that but none of the plugins were 1.14 compatible
@mortal aurora will that have vanish support for plugins such as VanishNoPacket, Essentials and Premium/Super Vanish? :)
Looks cool btw.
Not in the release version
But there will be some updates, and these things will be configurable
cool!
What's the best garbage collection method for spigot server?
Hey @shadow parcel Do you know if there are any spigot/paper or common plugin configuration that alters the vanilla behavior of Nether portals?
Got an issue with nether portals and overworld portals, where people are getting teleported to the same netherportal and whenever going back into the Nether portal they get teleported back to another base that originally created the nether portal.
Hope it make sense.... 😄
1.14?
yupp
Did u report this earlier?
Nope, first time mentioning it
anyone know if theres a way to disable raids in a certain worldguard region?
What do you mean disable raids? Stop the placing of blocks?
like if someone enters the area with bad omen it wont trigger a raid
@eager ginkgo
Oh 1.14
Are we talking about factions?
Your best bet would be checking the mojang page if there's a rule or something to disable it, cuz if there is there's probably a flag you can set @drifting thistle
hmm i cant seem to find something
also mr swalbert we have quite the history lol
funny to see u here
check our messages
Ah, you're from Skycade xD
yes xD
smh I know that server aswell
i used to be banned lmao
Did I unban you?
yea u unbanned me
there was a whole issue cos my brother didnt know i was banned and then he joined
@polar pasture why lol
reasons I don't want to disscuss
@drifting thistle I remember now, you're like the only guy I unbanned to PVP
Holly was sound
I think I'm unbanned cuz all the bans reset
you're helper?
Only a select few stayed banned, though most are unbanned now
I've been a mod for 12 months 😛
Nah he was gone before I joined
rip
All the old staff members that are left now are basically all SrMods or higher
I know joos ye
Carben?
nop
Space is the manager now
oof
i think carben mightve replied to one of my appeals
space abused for me
lmao ive also been banned from the discord server
but i got unbanned
i accidently put something that i meant to put in another discord server in the skycade oen
hey look who pops in to say hello again
My IGN: Itsyaboii_Zac
Offender's IGN: christianboo2
Offence: Targeted disrepect, tells me to kill myself
Evidence: Imgur
Why would I know?
Don't ping him lol
And any version should work on 1.8
no i have 1.8.3 of citizen and zcitizens cmd both red
well if citizens doesn't work citizens cmd wont either
you get a version of citizens that work and it'll
I don't know if citizens supports 1.8.3, try updating to 1.8.8.
If you use 2.0.24 use citizenscmd 2.3
I stg I added that 
Hey what would you guys recommend for editing the tab "screen"
Sweet, assuming it's compatible with papi?
yup
dope
F
join hc at least
there's a guild?
obv
Hey, KiteBoard does a lot more than I need, I unno if it's worth buying it. I just want to be able to add a header and footer to the tab menu
TAB
use TAB Reborn
(KiteBoard is worth it, it's better than fb imo)
Maybe eventually, my server's not anything too grand or whatnot, don't really have any use for the scoreboard or animations
Thanks though!
And thanks! TAB looks nice
no charlie
yesss
Charlie No.
titlemanager is nice
@wise crow TitleManager should suit your needs... Or another tablist plugin, I think most of them support PlaceholderAPI.
Thanks for the suggestion, TAB's has been workin just perfect though!
Does text formatting get distorted in different resolutions, or does font size scale with resolution?
hello i need help with the server placeholderAPI support
rip
I fixed that one in paper
It's basically down to loading chunks during a certain state of ticking the server thread
How did you fix it?
I need help with Place-Holders-API.
May someone please DM me and help out?
What issue do you have?
May we call?
I can’t call I’m in bed on phone, just explain the issue you’re having and either myself or anyone else here will do best to help
I don't know how to add placeholders into any config file for Place-Holder-API. I've been trying to find an answer on Google but, I'm not finding anything.
So you want to use the PAPI placeholders in other plugins?
First make sure the plugin supports PAPI (it should say on front page), if it’s right be sure that you download the right expansions
So:
/Papi ecloud download Player
/Papi reload
@drifting thistle
I'm trying to get that scoreboard to work with this.
Is there another scoreboard that works with Papi?
I didn't find any.
You could try the above commands and then reload the scoreboard plugin and see if it works
If not an alternative is KiteBoard, FeatherBoard or even use TitleManager
wdym?
@drifting thistle
@drifting thistle u need help still
ok
Why guys mc market is so empty nowadays ?
hm?
Nobody asking there for help or advice nobody is posting there ...
Overpriced garbage mostly @celest moss
ah so you're one of those
No I comissioned off someone from mc-market
Just most of the work is overpriced for the quality
Tbh.
Like those plugin devs that want to charge $100 for a custom plugin, why would I do that when I can just get a premium plugin from an actual dev that works for my minecraft version
Time costs money
Yeah but from what I've heard it doesnt take much work too make a plugin idk I'm not a dev
most of the mc community don't value the work/time invested in a project, hence why everyone beats down a person when they put a s more expensive project on there
And I'm all for quality versus quantity
You're not just shitting out code
1st, not all plugins are the same
I rather pay $20 for placeholder api
You're designing stuff and making it all work together
Then $100 for someone to make me that same thing
theres plugins that cost 10 and other that cost 100
If there is a prepaid solution that fits your needs, go for it
example, Charlie is charging 150$ for his plugin, which I honestly think is underpriced considering the amount of time/effort spent on it
Oh yeah forsure but that's what I'm saying though devs that take a time to get known and are affordable are successful for a reason
Theres why some plugins have been around for ages
Worth noting that the dev who charges $4 for a "premium" plugin earns muuuch more per hour than a dev charging you $100 for a plugin
Okay so if you feel that way how do you feel about people that charge $100 for a discord bit that takes 30 minutes to setup
And dont say people dont do that because they do
That's basically dumb
Sheer stupidity
Unless they're creating stuff like images etc, for you; That's pretty much a rip off
That's my point
Most mc market threads are
Ripoffs
They're just trying to make a quick buck
There is 1000000% a difference between charging 100 for a discord setup and 100 for a few hours of dev time
They don't care about their reputation or their plugin lasting for more than one minecraft version
That's why they charge you $100 and it doesnt come with updates to updated mc versions
gotta ask, electronic, what's your opinion on "charging for framework"; i.e. devs adding onto the price for usage of their boilerplate code.
also, setting the plugin's price isnt always based on the time the dev took to make it
no, in this case it'd make it more expensive
although, times would possibly be quicker
I'm just saying I would much rather go for a premium plugin then a shot in the dark dev on mc market
"You can use our framework of which we'd charge X, or we'd have to do it without the framework which would take longer"
Somewhat icky, but I can see people doing it
And put it into consideration that when I do comission work
Then again
I dont put a time frame
I'm just glad that most premium plugins on spogit have been around for ages
And theres a reason why their wallets are filled
Gonk, give me your honest opinion, what do you think of this price?
||https://www.mc-market.org/threads/505980/||
I dont see the price maybe I'm dumb
(mfw premium devs are often the most cancerous fuckfests on the sites)
frosty, where's the price on that post?
click the selly link
I mean, I wouldn't pay for it
And the lack of spreadsheets at least to me is pretty o.O
It says what it is
But, tbh; I find some level of fun hell in tryna deal with all that
electronic, "mfw" ?
my face when
smh
It's a configuration
It looks nice
what are you opinions on the price?
But since you need to pay for shopgui+
Then for this
Which is only a configuration or extension
50% of the main plugins price should be fair
Not what the price is based of off
The price was set through the amount of time spent
Okay how long did it take you
the price shouldnt be always set based on the time......
Let's see how long it took him first
around 30-35h (including optimisation of the economy cuz it was being tested on a live server)
Not what I'm saying..
if he charged real per-hour rates on it it would be a substatial cost
I prefer his pricing though
You can't look at price/time like that
the fact that dozens of people can purchase it makes it viable
$60-100 for a medium sized plugin
otherwise it'd be like 5$/h atleast which adds the cost quite a bit
Just a solid $10 or $20 case closed
So people actually sell plugins that take less than 40 hours to make for $175?
why not??????
tbh that's a very small amount
Why would you pay for a custom plugin when you dont know if it will work for the next version of minecraft
Most "devs" say "no updates to newer versions" so most of the times you are shafted
if you consider that some devs are payed up to 100$ (if not more) an hour
if the plugin is valuable, why not selling it for a high price even if it didnt take time to make??
Frosty, that's an insanely high amount for something that took a mere 40 hours
especially if sold to the public
^
if it was private, that's a different story
Piggy, "a mere 40 hours"
40 hours is nothing in the scheme of things, to a programmer who enjoys what they do, and/or the money they may get in return
If you want to be a big time plugin seller why not just be a plugin dev for a server
You actually get paid a fair amount
just to be specific here, 40 hours wouldn't equate to 175 for a private commission, the price would be higher
Like an actual employee
sales are long term income
they do yes
making commissions are completely different than selling copies of the same thing...
if they pay you with 5$ per hour, that's 200$ tho
I feel like it would be much better to have an actual position as a server plugin dev
Then to charge absurd amounts for plugins
more money at a time as long as the server works
Theres just some plugins that you just need and cant cheap out on
Like Anticheat
I had to spend $20 on spartan because I heard its solid
$20 for an anticheat plugin is nothing, and spartan isn't that great
well, anticheats are def not easy to make
only anti cheat I use is nocheatplus with community config
imagine how much would have cost getting a custom made one.
although, not sure that's even updated to 1.14
I haven't owned a server since 1.12, so I wouldn't really know
I just heard good things about it and asked what most server owners used
anti cheats in general are pretty shitty, tbh
And they recommended me that
They're complex to make, and honestly, devs in general in this community love to make shitty descisions
Gonk, you will still need to invest a lot of hours optimizing it for your server
"Hey, I can call that async..." being a common one...
nope
I feel like you have a lot left to learn
that's why I dont like anticheats haha xd
Well yeah
I do
But that's why I joined this discord
For feedback and opinions
Don't use an anticheat and just enslave 10 random people to watch players 
lol frosty
But we've only been open like 3 days so
That's good if you're only open for 3 days
I've tried finding legit staff tbh
^
But uts hard
Its*
Setting up perms is a goddamn pain
Would be nice to just op everyone if they couldnt destroy everything
What perms plugin?
gm 😹
if that's his answer I'm done
Here these are my plugins
permissions.yml
Oh I cant post pics in here
Gaby please no
I'll dm you
You won't be able to upload images here directly to avoid spam, so please use https://imgur.com/ to upload images/screenshots.
LuckPerms is what I use
Thank god
Lol
luckperms editor is ew
