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sturdy bobcat
regal juniper
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I wish I could just self host everything

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Save a lot of money lol

velvet crescent
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Just get access to your colleges system, ez claps

regal juniper
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Haha

magic hound
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@regal juniper just buy dedi machine for 34€ at hetzner
ryzen 5 3600
64 gb ram
2x 512gb nvme ssd

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34€ per month

regal juniper
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That's like $45 USD

magic hound
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yes

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but guud

regal juniper
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I also don't need that much

magic hound
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well

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true

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what specs do you need?=

regal juniper
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I literally could get by with like 6GB of RAM and 500GB disk space HDD

magic hound
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mc server or like just repo and that stuff?

regal juniper
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Tho I'm not complaining about how much I pay. I can cover that without a problem.

magic hound
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ow

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okay 🙂

boreal escarp
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What do you have for that price?

regal juniper
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I don't mind paying what I do cause OVH has given me like 99.999% uptime

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I think I have 2 game 2 clouds?

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Idk

long summit
magic hound
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whats that

long summit
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Unique IPs stats

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76 people tried the gui lib

boreal escarp
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And percent?

magic hound
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interesting

long summit
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Percentage of all the repositories i have on central

magic hound
boreal escarp
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O

magic hound
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keep in mind that stuff has like 22% VAT

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its actually 15€

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but we pay 22% VAT

boreal escarp
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Hot

long summit
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Where is that from?

magic hound
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hetzner cloud

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(vps)

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cheap and actually works not like craptabo

regal juniper
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Not bad but I do need ddos prot and ovh does that well

velvet crescent
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Imagine having to pay for a dedi sheesh

regal juniper
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Idk why but MCBanners gets weekly ddos attacks

magic hound
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eh hetzner has ddos protection 🙂

fallow crow
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@regal juniper sorry for the tag, but my friend has a small hosting company that sells vps' and dedis

magic hound
fallow crow
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if you're interested i can dm you the website

velvet crescent
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Is that an ad

magic hound
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uff

regal juniper
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Nah it's all good man, again, I'm not complaining about how much I am paying.

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I just know if I need to I can scale down.

fallow crow
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alright

regal juniper
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I also don't fully use my systems. I could totally push them way more than I currently do.

velvet crescent
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Glare, I heard you were applying for a job the other day, how'd it go?

long summit
magic hound
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i mean hetzner is kinda best stuff in EU if you ask me.

regal juniper
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I have an interview on Monday.

velvet crescent
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Gl

regal juniper
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Thanks!

long summit
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Ayy good luck Glare!

magic hound
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GL 🙂 (is it a job interview? kinda Personalk question no need to anwser :))

regal juniper
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Yeah I applied for my first real job.

velvet crescent
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Development related or nah?

magic hound
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noice!

regal juniper
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Yeah

velvet crescent
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Sheesh, hope you get it

umbral linden
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Anyone know where I could get a BedWars plugin that's almost exactly like Hypixel's? I am willing to pay some money for a plugin, but not too much or if someone needs to develop it, that would be cool too

regal juniper
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I do too, it'd help with tuition costs.

magic hound
velvet crescent
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bedwars1080 is based off of it no?

regal juniper
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Unless you have like $250+ to spend minimum, you won't be getting something as good as Hypixels.

velvet crescent
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Or whatever the numbers are

regal juniper
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250 is even super low

magic hound
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BedWars1058

velvet crescent
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Close enough, but I think it's legit the same thing? Atleast style wise

magic hound
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haha

velvet crescent
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Oof rip

magic hound
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live its version naming

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28b8a07b-20.7.1-SNAPSHOT

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love*

long summit
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Ayyy I passed Clip!

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Thien, coming for you now

mellow zinc
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👀

long summit
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I'll pass you one day Kali

mellow zinc
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well see about that thonkness

long summit
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Only 213k xp

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Pretty close

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Just about double what i have

light scaffold
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ok but have you ever heard of elara mitten

mellow zinc
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nope

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who he

light scaffold
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idk

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just sounds cool

mellow zinc
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i guess so

velvet crescent
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@light scaffold Stop gaining xp or I go an snatch ElaraMitten

sterile parrot
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@long summit gg

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🥳

long summit
light scaffold
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@velvet crescent that's quite a convincing threat ngl

velvet crescent
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:}

sturdy bobcat
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sometimes

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i forget to eat

mellow zinc
regal juniper
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THis Aphelios is TRASH

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I swear he took so much poke he was trolling

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Literally everything hit him

mellow zinc
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wot

regal juniper
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League

mellow zinc
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🙄

regal juniper
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Bad teammates

boreal escarp
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aphelios is dumb

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they tried too hard with that champion

sterile parrot
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cod is better

mellow zinc
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i agree

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league bad fingerguns

lunar anchor
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@light furnace i can't message you on dm

magic summit
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Does that mean the plugin will make a request to some db I don't know about? Or does it mean it will create and load a local db? Like this text gives me headaches

regal juniper
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Sounds like it.

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Not sure how that got approved.

boreal escarp
full atlas
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Does that mean the plugin will make a request to some db I don't know about? Or does it mean it will create and load a local db? Like this text gives me headaches
If I recall its not a plugin. Rather a "complete server jar in the size of a plugin." So yes it does exactly what all other server jars do.

eternal apex
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@lament ember what's the fork for?

left junco
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When I'm on the lobby server, I see the lobby's online time. And when I'm on another server I see the online time from the other server. But I want to know all about it.

sturdy bobcat
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sometimes its scary

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how bad i am at linux

sharp sky
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3 more to go

sterile parrot
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sick

fallow crow
boreal escarp
trim raft
frozen escarp
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Fords 💀

lunar anchor
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@light furnace i can't message you on dm about your offert

mellow zinc
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Whoever named frogs got it 100% right. Those things are frogs

lament ember
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@eternal apex thought you might question that lol

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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thought I'd do some "experimentation" shall we say

lunar anchor
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wtf

lament ember
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oof

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who?

lunar anchor
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@light furnace

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i'm pinging him there but XD

lament ember
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yeah he's one of the owners of Bionic's server

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he probably has his DMs off because otherwise he'd get flooded with DMs

eternal apex
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@lament ember what sort of experimenting?

lament ember
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

eternal apex
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everything is subject to change

lament ember
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I was looking in to how the modules work, since the bindings module doesn't have a build file

frozen escarp
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that it is

eternal apex
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that’s cuz bindings isn’t a module

lament ember
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and when you try to create a module in there, it gets really funny about it

eternal apex
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it’s a folder

lament ember
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ah

eternal apex
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tho I think gradle does treat it as a subproject of sorts

lament ember
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yeah

eternal apex
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although it’s not meant to be one

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it’s literally just a categorising folder

lament ember
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how did you create new modules in there? just set placeholderapi to be the parent?

eternal apex
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look in settings.gradle

lament ember
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the includes?

eternal apex
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yeah

lament ember
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ah okay

eternal apex
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that’s where you specify subprojects

lament ember
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yeah ik that part

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I just got confused by my IntelliJ treating bindings as a module

fringe sigil
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Need help
one massive struct with fields that are optional and may only be present depending on message type

multiple structs/enum variants for each different type (alot of fields shared between message types e.g)

lament ember
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context?

fringe sigil
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packet

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decode

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lib

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rust

lament ember
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struct? what language is this?

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ah okay

eternal apex
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btw, make sure to set your generated sources folder for the common subproject, otherwise ij will show errors

lament ember
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okay will do

eternal apex
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ij will show errors but it’ll compile fine*

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error prone classes are Datum & Files

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you can also simply just not open those classes

lament ember
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@fringe sigil for what?

eternal apex
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@fringe sigil second option

lament ember
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yeah looking at that, I agree with Pig

light scaffold
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@fringe sigil polymorphism is probably better

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Especially since pattern matching

eternal apex
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first is a classic violation of the interface segregation principle

lament ember
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tier 7????

light scaffold
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Yes

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Fun fact Elara has pattern matching

eternal apex
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bm is sweaty af

light scaffold
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Or it will

lament ember
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ikr

eternal apex
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what’s pattern matching?

light scaffold
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😕

fringe sigil
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yeah thats what i thought but

light scaffold
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kinda tricky to explain

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But like instanceof but matching with a specific pattern

fringe sigil
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There are sub types of messages

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and sub types of those sub types

lament ember
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interface segregation principle? just by looking at that name, I'm guessing it's got something to do with splitting bigger thingys that do many thingys in to smaller thingys that do not so many thingys

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actually no I'm wrong

fringe sigil
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and sub types A, B, E, F might share field

lament ember
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ISP means no client should be forced to depend on methods it does not use

eternal apex
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yep

fringe sigil
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We are not in OO

light scaffold
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^

fringe sigil
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Rust world

light scaffold
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However the basic concept still applies

lament ember
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I don't think SOLID only applies to the OOP world

eternal apex
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solid rules are designed around oo, but are often perfectly valid in other paradigms

light scaffold
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SOLID is for OOP primarily

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I think some of the principles still apply but are less important

eternal apex
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ISP means no client should be forced to depend on methods it does not use
@lament ember technically we’re not forcing anything here, niall’s keyword being “optional”, but I like to amend the definition to something like “if it’s not being used in every case, it shouldn’t be there”

lament ember
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also OOP better

light scaffold
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Sx mentioned that some of our Go code is too OO because I was using solid too much

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OOP has its flaws

fringe sigil
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no

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the photo was uploaded to sars

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1973

eternal apex
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wat

light scaffold
fringe sigil
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😫

light scaffold
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1973

eternal apex
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ok then

light scaffold
lament ember
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lol

eternal apex
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those pixels though bm

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very visible

lament ember
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also, good languages make OOP optional but still have it

light scaffold
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we have it in SVG

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It's just discord compression

eternal apex
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o

light scaffold
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Also clojure good Oop bad

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imagine having mutable state

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Couldn't be Clojure

lament ember
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pure OOP is annoying since it has a lot of unnecessary boilerplate, but no OOP is just no

eternal apex
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boilerplate is entirely dependent on the language, not the paradigm

light scaffold
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you're confusing OOP with Java

lament ember
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true

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and true again

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but strict OOP does introduce boilerplate in places where it is not necessarily needed

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like where everything has to be inside a type

light scaffold
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inside a class*

lament ember
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they're actually called types, because that includes interfaces

light scaffold
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Depends what you're referring to

fringe sigil
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C > * 🙂

lament ember
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I found out they were called types in probably one of the weirdest ways

fringe sigil
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AsmOO

light scaffold
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ok but have you ever seen Fortran before

lament ember
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C > * 🙂
welcome here, one is no longer

light scaffold
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Procedural masterrace

fringe sigil
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I have a fortran program somewhere

lament ember
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ok but have you ever seen Fortran before
to thy, the same applies

fringe sigil
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Ah yes "Fortest"

light scaffold
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I think Go's paradigm is probably one of the best

fringe sigil
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program fortest
    implicit none
    
    type Animal
        integer typeId
        character(len=15) name
    end type Animal

    type(Animal):: animals(5)
    type(Animal):: a

    character(len = 15):: name

    animals(0) = Animal(0, "Dog")
    animals(1) = Animal(1, "Cat")
    animals(2) = Animal(2, "Pig")

    do i = 0, 2
        a = animals(i)
        tid = a%typeId
        print *, "Animal with type: "
        print *, tid
        print *, "Is: "
        name = a%name
        print *, name
    end do

    print *, "Fortran!"
end program fortest
lament ember
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Fortran died years ago for a reason

light scaffold
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Fortran is still used in some places iirc

fringe sigil
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I never got the hang of it

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Rust > **

lament ember
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omfg Niall wtf is that

fringe sigil
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Animal

eternal apex
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vb > /*

lament ember
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never actually used Rust, heard it's basically the Kotlin of C++

fringe sigil
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Beautiful

woven prairie
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Skript >>

fringe sigil
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Im suprised you guys havnt hooked onto it yet

lament ember
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Skript >>
@woven prairie how tf did you get staff lol

eternal apex
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maybe cuz it’s low level and we’re all java developers, which is notoriously high level niall

fringe sigil
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It is low level

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But it doenst feel low level

lament ember
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show me example of code Niall

velvet crescent
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@woven prairie 😠 GWumuAngry angry_fingerguns

lament ember
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also has anyone here seen Discord's new emoji highlighting thingys?

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or am I the only one here using Canary (basically Discord Alpha)

fallow crow
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what isi t?

lament ember
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what is what?

fallow crow
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the new emoji highliting thingys

lament ember
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Canary?

fringe sigil
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pub enum Altitude {
    Feet(i32),
    Metres(i32)
}```
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Rust's enums are the best

lament ember
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pub ew

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why can't Rust just have public be the default modifier oof

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also tf is i32

fringe sigil
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32 int

lament ember
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also also, why are those thingys (enum entries)written in PascalCase

fringe sigil
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like wtf is int 32 bit, 11 bit 3 bit?

lament ember
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yeah i32 makes sense, I just wasn't sure if it was some architecture or some shit

fringe sigil
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Rust's enums are the best

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Do your research

lament ember
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pub keyword annoying though

fringe sigil
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Do your research!!!!

lament ember
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fine

fringe sigil
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There is so much information! Wake up!

eternal apex
lament ember
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no null?

fringe sigil
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I dont think Vlang will take off

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Might be like D

lament ember
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also tf is fn

eternal apex
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neither niall (I don't think it'll go anywhere)

lament ember
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anyone who complains about Kotlin's fun can go stick their complaints up their ass because it just got worse lol

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what is :=

eternal apex
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walrus operator

lament ember
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@fringe sigil let

eternal apex
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used for variable declaration

fringe sigil
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1..=4 => {

lament ember
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fn exists in Rust too?

fringe sigil
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Inclusive range match

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Yeah its fn

eternal apex
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vlang took inspiration from rust

lament ember
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@light scaffold I swear man you just combined Kotlin and Rust didn't you

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tf is a struct?

fringe sigil
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structure

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object i guess

lament ember
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is it a bit like Kotlin's data class? (it's a class used specifically for representing data)

eternal apex
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sorta

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best not to think of it like that

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don't make comparisons to oop languages

lament ember
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also how do you know what a data class is?

eternal apex
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why wouldn't I?

lament ember
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did you actually go away and learn Kotlin?

eternal apex
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no lol

lament ember
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oof

fringe sigil
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Rust enums are the best

lament ember
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in what way

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wait you use them as if you were making a reference?

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EnumName::ENUM_VALUE

fringe sigil
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enum Error {
  NotFound { file: File },
  SomeOtherError { reason: String }
}
light scaffold
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@lament ember kotlin rust clojure and f# were the main influences

lament ember
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f#?

light scaffold
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Yea

lament ember
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also what does Elara take from Clojure?

eternal apex
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is that a .net language bm?

light scaffold
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General functional style

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And yea

eternal apex
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sounded familiar

light scaffold
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Yeah it's basically functional .net

lament ember
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I'm still not sure about functional programming tbh

fringe sigil
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J#

light scaffold
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Functional programming good

lament ember
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also, I'm still kinda working on MineKraft's statistics packet

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I'm struggling to figure out how to send an array using a ByteBuf

eternal apex
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lel

lament ember
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because I'm not big brain enough for that

eternal apex
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yeah that shit is actual aids

lament ember
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and still got Adapters to work on, the first Java project I've done in months

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actually that's BS since I worked on KiteBoard deobfuscation before this, which is what this is inspired by

eternal apex
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hold up so bardy

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what were you experimenting with in papi 3?

lament ember
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I was thinking of writing a BungeeCord implementation for the common because I was that bored lol

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that's the truth

eternal apex
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ah yeah

light scaffold
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Pretty sure for an array you just write the length as a varint and then each element

eternal apex
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that's gonna be an almighty task fyi

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which will ironically involve bytebufs

lament ember
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yeah I don't mind

eternal apex
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one of the reasons why I'm not planning on including any proxy support in initial versions

lament ember
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what exactly is gonna need ByteBuf though?

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and also, we talking about ByteBuf (netty) or ByteBuffer (Java IO)

eternal apex
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netty

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you'd need to implement the missing packets into bungee (for each protocol version mind you :D, 1.7 - 1.16.3)

lament ember
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ah a familiar project

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may or may not be exactly what I'm having to do with MineKraft anyway (MineKraft is a Minecraft protocol implementation from scratch in Kotlin)

eternal apex
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problem is bungee's api is no where near expansive enough to implement the core placeholders in

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so we have no choice but to implement the packets ourselves

lament ember
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unless we split the common or something, meaning you can have say Bukkit, Nukkit and Sponge depend on the common that has all the backend stuff in it, and then Bungee, Waterfall, etc. can depend on the common that has the core stuff in it

eternal apex
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well, yeah, we'd undoubtedly do that as velocity and bungee can share the packet implementations

lament ember
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because the Bungee part will only have access to proxy stuff anyway

eternal apex
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but you still have to make those impls anyway

fringe sigil
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So for my earlier question Ill do a spread sheet

eternal apex
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nukkit's actually being a little shit rn

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cuz it doesn't share the same version names as java

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damn people say cross version is hard

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cross platform is a whole nother fucking galaxy

lament ember
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is Nukkit an entire protocol from scratch or is it just like a Spigot from scratch

eternal apex
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that sentence leads me to believe you don't know what you're talking about

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neither spigot or nukkit, or any mc server software define their own protocol

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java edition has a protocol, and bedrock has a protocol

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nms is the ONLY full implementation of the java protocol

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spigot patches nms with api and performance and other pieces of shit

lament ember
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I mean, afaik it isn't, but okay

woven prairie
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Sometimes, when I’m sad, I remember that I don’t need to play with the Minecraft protocol, and then I get happy

lament ember
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spigot patches nms with api and performance and other pieces of shit
Spigot patches NMS and Bukkit, which also patches NMS

eternal apex
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yep

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well

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bukkit is an api

lament ember
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does Nukkit patch Spigot then or what?

eternal apex
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no

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the bedrock mc server software is made in c++ iirc

lament ember
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bukkit is an api
yeah ik

eternal apex
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nukkit is java

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nukkit implements the bedrock protocol directly

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it doesn't wrap or patch anything

lament ember
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ah okay Nukkit is the bedrock one

woven prairie
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It’s 2020, we rock the PHP software

eternal apex
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lol yeah pocketmine is a thing too

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php impl of the bedrock protocol

woven prairie
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😂

velvet crescent
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Could you make a plugin in php thonking

eternal apex
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no one knows why it exists

lament ember
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PHP impl?

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who tf wants to write that sort of shit in PHP?

eternal apex
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no clue

woven prairie
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Some guys are psychos

eternal apex
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it's not even a joke

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it's legit software

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although I think it's abandoned

sharp sky
velvet crescent
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Have you done the thing yet Gian :((

lament ember
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also, net.minecraft.network is the actual package for network thingys, net.minecraft.server is just what the Bukkit team made it

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fun facts

velvet crescent
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NMN sounds less cool than NMS

lament ember
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true

eternal apex
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erm

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nms doesn't have an official package afaik

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the binary distributed by mojang is obfuscated

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nms is a package defined by community made mappings

lament ember
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you realise in 1.14 they released the official ProGuard mappings right?

eternal apex
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o right

lament ember
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they're in client.json I think

eternal apex
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idk was just assuming

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just decompiled the jar

lament ember
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or, there's info about them in client.json

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the reason why NMS class names are so bad is because the Bukkit team did that so they didn't conflict with their own shit

eternal apex
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I mean, afaik it isn't, but okay
going back to this, it definitely is

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keyword full

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other standalone implementations exist, the most popular being glowstone & cuberite

lament ember
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yeah

eternal apex
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but these are outdated, and not complete anyway

lament ember
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Elytra exists also

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I aim for MineKraft to have as much as humanly possible in it

woven prairie
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Cuberite 😤

eternal apex
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cuberite is interesting

muted fern
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cube u rite

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yeah i know

woven prairie
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Lol

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Comek

frozen escarp
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look at this guy

fringe sigil
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So considering rust

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I think I may have to use one big struct

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So many shared fields between messages

eternal apex
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ew elytra bad code yucky yucky

fringe sigil
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It makes more sense to have

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struct Message {
possible_type_1: Option<e.g>
possible_type_2: Option<e.g>
}

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And then the possible_type would be properly subclassed

sturdy bobcat
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i just clicked on a video about bo5

lament ember
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@eternal apex is that a Kotlin insult

sturdy bobcat
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first comment there

eternal apex
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no

lament ember
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or are you genuinely saying it's shit code

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(which it kinda is tbh)

sturdy bobcat
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'The 10s teaser for this is better than bo4 zombies'

woven prairie
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💀💀

sturdy bobcat
lament ember
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also anyone know what NMS' equivalent of the spawn weather entity packet is?

fringe sigil
eternal apex
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organization

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what a great name

fringe sigil
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That is root types only

lament ember
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@fringe sigil tf is that

fringe sigil
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Without sub types

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And the sub type data

lament ember
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that makes literally 0 sense whatsoever

fringe sigil
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Left (message types)

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Top (fields present in message types)

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x = present

lament ember
#

so that's a spreadsheet showing all the fields present in message types

fringe sigil
#

no

#

thats only the fields shared

#

Ive excluded things exclusive to each message type

lament ember
#

first, what kind of message types?
second, what kind of field types?
third, what do each of those mean?

#

basically, I'm asking you for context

sharp sky
#

Why can't i upload img tho

fringe sigil
#

it is complex

#

too complex to explain

lament ember
#

give it a try anyway

frozen escarp
lament ember
#

or just point me in a direction where I can figure it out for myself

fringe sigil
#

the logic of how to do everything is fine

sturdy bobcat
#

they dont deserve pizza

frozen escarp
#

ok fair enough

fringe sigil
#

just structuring it as an api

lament ember
#

oh no

sturdy bobcat
fringe sigil
#

this C program has one massive struct that represents all types

lament ember
#

not C

fringe sigil
#

but to be honest its not a crazy idea

frozen escarp
#

ic

fringe sigil
#

else you have 50 different structs

#

about 3 nested types in a message

sharp sky
#

What devices do you guys use for playing Among Us though?

lament ember
#

PC

sharp sky
#

On phone, it's absolutely free

lament ember
#

Arch Linux 5.8.7-arch1-1 to be exact

woven prairie
#

Nintendo Wii

velvet crescent
#

Samsung Smart Fridge

frozen escarp
#

What you have against the Wii Gian

eternal apex
#

toaster

frozen escarp
#

o.O

lament ember
#

because it works on Linux since it's a very, very badly ported mobile game

woven prairie
#

Gucci Smart Toilet

sharp sky
#

Also, is paypal supported on steam for you guys?

frozen escarp
#

yes

sharp sky
#

Because I can't pay with it here

frozen escarp
#

rip

lament ember
#

why wouldn't PayPal be supported on Steam?

frozen escarp
#

ring them up and abuse whoever answers the call

#

always works

#

💀

sharp sky
#

Lol

eternal apex
#

among us trash

lament ember
#

the only big thingy that doesn't support it is Amazon, because 1. they like being weird, and 2. PayPal's probably too shady for them

frozen escarp
#

agreed Pig

#

hypixl remake

sharp sky
#

Let me try to get over it with vpn thonking

frozen escarp
#

💀

eternal apex
#

amazon doesn't use paypal because they're a direct competitor

#

amazon wants you to use amazon pay

#

paypal also has close ties with ebay, which once again, is a competitor of amazon

lament ember
#

among us trash
it's alright, the PC version is literally just the result of taking the mobile version and making it work on PC, but it's a bit of fun

sharp sky
#

Why do you guys forgot Mafia ._.

velvet crescent
#

The fuck is Mafia?

frozen escarp
#

bruh

sharp sky
#

Er..

frozen escarp
#

frosty

#

smh

velvet crescent
#

I'm legit asking, I probably played it just can't remember

woven prairie
#

Y’all forgetting Hypixel Party Games

sharp sky
#

Mafia (aka werewolf)

frozen escarp
#

Do they still have them Gian?

magic summit
sharp sky
#

Werewolf will attack while people in group closing the eyes at night, then at the day, people will decide who will get lynched

velvet crescent
#

So TTT

sharp sky
#

Now i don't know what TTT is 😂

woven prairie
#

Trouble in terrorist town

velvet crescent
#

yessir

frozen escarp
#

o

velvet crescent
#

Murder mystery was first right?

lament ember
#

murder mystery itself is a fun minigame, the way some games implement it is questionable though

sturdy bobcat
#

contacting twitch support for the second time cus their 2fa suck and i don't get a single text when trying to log in rooDab1

velvet crescent
#

inb4 you see you're a 4head and entered the wrong number

sturdy bobcat
#

I didn't tho mmSitStareMocha

#

mmSitStareMocha same number

frozen escarp
#

omggg i know ur number!!!

sturdy bobcat
#

yes

frozen escarp
#

44 789 1

lament ember
#

that's an oof

eternal apex
#

have you tried turning it off and on again?

frozen escarp
#

no

lament ember
#

@frozen escarp in the UK, we substitute +44 for 0

frozen escarp
#

its on and off again

lament ember
#

and mobile numbers start with 7

frozen escarp
#

yeah same

#

wait no

#

lmao

lament ember
#

so 07 means a UK mobile number, and then the rest of those mean other thingys

eternal apex
#

87% sure every country substitutes their country code for 0

lament ember
#

07xxx xxxxxx

frozen escarp
#

ye

#

ours is 04

lament ember
#

we have area codes as well

#

e.g. my area code is 01727 (house numbers)

eternal apex
#

not always tradie

prime gale
#

+90 in turkey

lament ember
#

I dare someone to tell me what area has that code

frozen escarp
#

mobile is?

#

landline is 97 isnt it

eternal apex
#

who gives a fuck about landline lol

frozen escarp
#

facts

eternal apex
#

my brother had a 08 iirc

frozen escarp
#

we dont even have one

#

oof08

prime gale
#

mobile

#

yeah

lament ember
#

01 is usually a home phone

#

we have a load of reserved codes as well

#

0800 for example is a free phone

#

meaning no matter where in the UK you ring from, it's always free to ring 0800 numbers

frozen escarp
#

yep

#

toll free

fallow crow
#

youre weird if its not 04

frozen escarp
#

^

eternal apex
#

idk I might be remembering incorrectly

lament ember
#

then anything starting with 03xx is usually a private number, meaning the recipient pays rather than the caller I believe

sharp sky
#

Mine is 02 on a landline

frozen escarp
#

cant say ive heard of an 08 mobile

fallow crow
#

02 is landline normally i think

velvet crescent
#

I've got 069 fingerguns

lament ember
#

if you get rung from a private number, it'll usually cost you

frozen escarp
#

wowww

#

frosty with mad flex

fringe sigil
frozen escarp
#

tf

velvet crescent
#

"STD codes"

frozen escarp
#

std codes

mellow zinc
#

0121 fingerguns

fringe sigil
#

lol

frozen escarp
#

lmfao

fringe sigil
#

Burning ham

mellow zinc
#

🌝

lament ember
#

also first one to tell me what area the code 01727 corresponds to gets a virtual cookie

fringe sigil
#

st albans

lament ember
#

my guy

#

🍪

mellow zinc
fringe sigil
#

😋

sharp sky
#

Let me change the vpn to see if I can pay with paypal here

mellow zinc
#

damn

lament ember
#

that's where I live

frozen escarp
#

he googled that

#

surely

fringe sigil
#

Bro they got an airport and everything

lament ember
#

no they don't

#

Luton has an airport, St. Albans doesn't

fringe sigil
#

Its a city

#

Sounded like a small village lol

lament ember
#

city doesn't mean airport

#

city just means it has a cathedral

fallow crow
#

bro wtf are these maths questions

#
Seal of Approval Insurance is updating its insurance premiums. Last year a total of 
50
males and 
25
 females were insured against seal attacks. In that time, 
31
 males and 
3
females were were attacked by a seal.```
fringe sigil
#

I just saw plane icon on the map

lament ember
#

that's literally the only criteria for cities in the UK: does it have a cathedral? if so, it's a city, if not, it's a town

fringe sigil
#

me when I make "niall cathedral"

lament ember
#

lol

#

@fallow crow wat

fallow crow
#

why are so many seals attacking people :((

lament ember
#

@fringe sigil what country do you live in btw? I'm just curious since I've never been able to figure it out for sure lol

fringe sigil
#

uk

lament ember
#

nice

#

where abouts?

fringe sigil
#

south east

lament ember
#

nice

#

I think that includes London, Essex, Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire if I'm not mistaken

#

wow it's weirder than I thought

sharp sky
#

Damn it ._.

lament ember
sharp sky
#

Didn't work with vpn on steam

lament ember
#

that's an oof

#

apparently Hertfordshire is in the "East of England" region, which is Geographically in the South East

#

wtf

#

I don't understand borders lol

light scaffold
#

9 gang

lament ember
#

9?

light scaffold
#

9

lament ember
#

you live in the Isle of Wight?

light scaffold
#

Mhm

lament ember
#

nice

#

I live in St. Albans (Hertfordshire)

light scaffold
#

No idea where that is

lament ember
#

Hertfordshire ( (listen); often abbreviated Herts) is one of the home counties in southern England. It is bordered by Bedfordshire and Cambridgeshire to the north, Essex to the east, Greater London to the south, and Buckinghamshire to the west. For government statistical purpo...

light scaffold
#

My UK geography apart from London sucks

#

h

#

Ah*

lament ember
#

one of my Grandad's brothers lives in the Isle of Wight lol

light scaffold
#

Whereabouts?

lament ember
#

not sure

#

I only used to see him like once or twice a year when we used to meet up at the crematorium where my Grandad's parents and his oldest brother are buried

#

well, not buried, scattered, since it's a crematorium, they got burned to ashes (after they were already dead)

light scaffold
#

👀

lament ember
#

because yes, that's a thing that you can choose to happen to you when you die

#

most people think of burials in graveyards with coffins and gravestones, but you can also be cremated (burned to ashes)

light scaffold
#

I am aware of the process of cremation lol

lament ember
#

just had to make sure xD

light scaffold
#

It just seems an odd place to meet

#

Like having a picnic in a graveyard

lament ember
#

we didn't have a picnic lol

#

we went there for the same reason everyone else meets up with their family in graveyards

#

wow this got a bit weird

#

I swear me being involved in conversations always seems to turn them to the dark side

light scaffold
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

wary willow
#

oh no. Advanced Achievements became premium 😦

#

10 Euro

velvet crescent
#

Is it OS?

wary willow
#

not anymore

velvet crescent
#

Disgusting

wary willow
#

it used to be

#

I mean I do understand that decision but still 😦

#

also it was updated for 1.16.x and some bugs got fixed but the free version won't get updates anymore

velvet crescent
#

Well I mean if it offers all you need buy it I guess, still disgusting it's not freemium

wary willow
#

wait I might be wrong. Seems like the source is still public on github

#

not sad anymore xD

sharp sky
#

Dumb them thonking

wary willow
#

?

sharp sky
#

Is that source differ compared to the premium one tho?

wary willow
#

no idea. xD

elfin minnow
#

@light snow yikes

velvet crescent
#

@elfin minnow no

sterile parrot
#

discord keeps logging me out on mobile and it's so annoying

mellow zinc
#

i dont think ive ever been logged out of discord

velvet crescent
#

Neither

elfin minnow
#

@sterile parrot does it to me as well

sterile parrot
#

it happens like daily to me on my phone

#

and it's so annoying since I use a password manager with 2fa as well as 2fa on discord

#

might be due to testflight or smth

#

@elfin minnow you on the ios version right

elfin minnow
#

yea

long summit
#

If i could understand what is being said kek

mellow zinc
#

smh matt get with the times kapp

sturdy bobcat
#

that literally

#

sounds so fucking british

#

like dear god

mellow zinc
#

@light scaffold is this how people sound off of the mainland too 🌝

velvet crescent
#

Bruh they seized almost a ton of pure cocaine today worth around 40mil

#

Like damn, what idiot would smuggle a ton of cocaine on a single litle barge

light scaffold
#

@mellow zinc I am proud to admit I've never spoken like that before

fringe sigil
#

ok lads were using rust innit. yes cargo all that my G. no not up for discussion mate. tuff

mellow zinc
#

:clojuremoon:

#

:elaramoon:

#

🌚

fringe sigil
#

he said what about rust? mad lad rust peng ting innit goat

#

bare symbols

light scaffold
#

clapped language bruv

mellow zinc
#

😂 😂 🤣

light scaffold
#

yeah man elara lang is bare ting you get me

mellow zinc
#

peng init

sterile parrot
#

can I use elara instead of js

#

then I'll make vue run on it

#

vue.el

light scaffold
#

ok

#

Sure

#

we can add compilation to js

sterile parrot
#

@fringe sigil go finish that damn draft pr

#

I thought you were so good with spring

#

I aint seen nothing from that

fringe sigil
#

burn

#

good at spring

#

not crank

sterile parrot
#

😛

fringe sigil
#

cant we use our own endpoints

#

relying on this crank thing

sterile parrot
#

I mean using a libary like that improves it so much

fringe sigil
#

it is good except for actions

#

things like uploading a new version

#

like they make this nice spec

#

and miss half the things a normal web site would need to do

#

Oh! but we must follow the spec!

sterile parrot
#

no you don't understand what it's purpose is then

#

uploading a file isn't part of REST

fringe sigil
#

I probably dont

#

Ok

#

But how else you going to upload the file? seperatley?

#

Then how do you link it

sterile parrot
#

all that crnk is for is for making easy resource based endpoints

#

which reduces your development time by a lot

#

it reduces boilerplate code

#

honestly

fringe sigil
#

Makes sense

#

So

sterile parrot
#

and for uploading a file you make a different endpoint?

fringe sigil
#

We would leave the posting a new version out of crunk

#

Ok yeah

sterile parrot
#

crnk doesn't limit you from only using cnrk endpoints

#

is what I mean

fringe sigil
#

Isn't that already?

#

Cant remember if i removed them

sterile parrot
#

I mean I'm no expert in spring so you are incredibly helpful

#

I am a fan of it though lol

#

currently it just has the crnk endpoints and nothing else

#

was fiddling with the authentication but needed to do more reading into the configuration of spring

fringe sigil
#

Oh yes

#

I was stuck on switching to the draft PR in intelliJ

sterile parrot
#

make sure you have no local changes

#

and then switch to the feature/x-blabal branch

#

idk it's name

#

you can do that either in cli or using VCS -> Branches and then switching the branch

#

make sure you pull beforehand

light scaffold
#

Elara will have a spring replica

#

We plan to call it Ding

#

It rolls of the tongue

sterile parrot
#

I like the name

light scaffold
#

Me too

#

Our engineers had many sleepless nights thinking of that one

mellow zinc
#

Ding dong

#

🔔

light scaffold
#

Oh please

#

We're not that tacky

#

It's named after popular artist Ding Crosby

#

And also spring

wary willow
#

loaDING

mellow zinc
#

who the frick is that

light scaffold
#

THE Ding Crosby

#

He is famous

mellow zinc
wary willow
#

you mean Bing Crosby?

light scaffold
#

No

#

It's definitely Ding

mellow zinc
#

apparently not

#

🌚

wary willow
#

xD

mellow zinc
fringe sigil
#

Awesome switche branch

mellow zinc
#

this MUST be him right?

light scaffold
#

Yep

#

He's very famous

#

Anyway

wary willow
#

:)))

light scaffold
#

We figured he was a good inspiration for our framework

mellow zinc
#

swiftly moving on

fringe sigil
#

Come on man

#

Change that package structure

#

I aint wanna see this no more

mellow zinc
#

get that pepper off

light scaffold
#

namespace elara/ding

fringe sigil
#

entity and repository packages

light scaffold
#
import elara/ding
let ding = ding.ding
#

Fully functional backend in 2 lines

fringe sigil
#

WHERES that service layer gone

#

PUT that service layer BACK

light scaffold
#

there is no service layer

fringe sigil
#

Come on man

light scaffold
#

There is the ding layer and that's it

#

it does everything in 1 layer

fringe sigil
#

@sterile parrot

light scaffold
#

Ding

fringe sigil
#

Bout to rebase the repo with a rust/rocket project

light scaffold
#

rust/elara-compiler

#

?

sterile parrot
#

@fringe sigil sure

#

if we have a crnk variant of it

regal juniper
#

👋

sterile parrot
#

@fringe sigil also that package structure is 10x better and what I see in every good spring project

#

and crnk doesn't need a service layer

#

we might only need it for the user stuff

#

but I first want to do authentication etc

#

before doing the other stuff

fringe sigil
#

@fringe sigil also that package structure is 10x better and what I see in every good spring project
Absolutley not

sterile parrot
#

yes.

fringe sigil
#

Never

#

but I first want to do authentication etc

woven prairie
jade oasis
#

what is cringy

woven prairie
#

The lowercase

haughty topaz
#

t

magic summit
#

@woven prairie I know right?

#

Probs because velocity uses the id of a plugin for the folder name, which is usually the name just lowercase... I think

woven prairie
#

Lol

magic summit
#

Would it be reasonable to change the category of the plugin to "universal" when it runs on bungee and velocity?

woven prairie
#

Doubt. Isn’t universal for software standalone

magic summit
magic summit
#

Where did the bot even get it from?
I don't use it for years now

jade oasis
#

good job me

#

i usually avg around under 3m

#

occasionally get the 2m

#

but 1m 33s is just damnn

sharp sky
#

Gonna need your brain thonking

#

It's been 30 minutes and I can't solve the extreme mode

velvet crescent
#

@woven prairie "Chocolate"

woven prairie
#

What's wrong with the name 😮

velvet crescent
#

Just peculiar

#

Can't wait till you name everything after a sweet

woven prairie
#

😮

#
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  "lobby-servers": [
    {
      "name": "lobby1",
      "lowest-protocol-version": 47
    },
    {
      "name": "lobby2",
      "lowest-protocol-version": 751
    }
  ],
  
  "load-balancing-method": "RANDOM",
  "send-player-to-hub-on-server-close": true,
  
  "hub-command": {
    "enabled": true,
    "aliases": [
      "lobby"
    ]
  },
  
  "messages": {
    "kickNoLobbyAvailable": "<red>There isn't a lobby available, please re-join later",
    "noLobbyAvailable": "<red>There isn't a lobby available, please try later",
    "successReload": "<green>Plugin reloaded",
    "errorReload": "<red>An error occurred while plugin reload, please check the logs"
  }
}

<red> 😦

velvet crescent
#

Json for messages, interesting

fallow crow
frozen escarp
#

o

fallow crow
#

o

mellow zinc
#

o

trim raft
#

o

regal juniper
#

o

coarse vale
#

f

#

🙃

velvet crescent
#

i

sharp sky
#

E

muted fern
#

@fallow crow ❤️ ty for the boost

fallow crow
#

Lol

#

J

frozen escarp
#

@fallow crow you have too much spare time

fallow crow
#

e gang e1

frozen escarp
fallow crow
#

its a very exciting place

frozen escarp
#

O

sterile parrot
#

not O

#

E

frozen escarp
#

Very funny

fallow crow
#

tradie.

frozen escarp
fallow crow
#

Allow me to finish the E chain.

#

Remove your emoji urgently

frozen escarp
fallow crow
sturdy bobcat
#

You all concern me

fallow crow
#

anyone know how tf i can make a graph in excel to represent this data lol

muted fern
#

What kind of graph?

fallow crow
#

line probs

muted fern
#

Basically throw the data into excel, highlight it and click the line graph button

#

Then you can copa pasta it back to word if you want

fallow crow
#

I need like three lines tho

#

one for each thingy

muted fern
#

oh ez

fallow crow
#

also...

muted fern
fallow crow
#

how would one even download excel lol ive got office 365 with my school account or whatever but everytime i try and download it it comes up with like 'buy and download' or 'try for 1 month'

muted fern
#

its on the web i believe

sterile parrot
#

open office365

fallow crow
#

ah alright ty

#

Can I add a label to like the Y axis?

#

I need to label it like amps or whatever

muted fern
#

Yeah

fallow crow
#

how would one

muted fern
fallow crow
#

dont have that on the online version

muted fern
#

Look for something that says chart elements or something

fallow crow
#

Ive got this but I couldnt find it anywhere

muted fern
fallow crow
#

what tab?

muted fern
#

Design

#

after selecting the chart

fallow crow
#

found it

#

was in chart

muted fern
#

oic

jade oasis
#

anyone down for among us in an hour

velvet crescent
#

No you weeb

#

Bruh I just caught my bus, this shit is lit, I don't gotta wait 2 hours on this heat fingerguns

sterile parrot
#

@sterile parrot oh hi
@velvet crescent hi

sturdy bobcat
#

College is boring

#

Don’t recommend

velvet crescent
#

Life is boring don't recommend

sturdy bobcat
#

I’m gonna spend the next like hour just standing around doing nothing

#

Ikr let’s all just die mmSadSitMilk

velvet crescent
#

Agreed, fuck humanity, let the dinosaurs live instead

sterile parrot
#

lol

sturdy bobcat
#

I’ve been walking in circles for so long

velvet crescent
sturdy bobcat
#

What the hell

#

Why is this photo ima send

#

15 fucking mb

velvet crescent
sturdy bobcat
#

Honestly worth it

fallow crow
velvet crescent
fallow crow
#

I have to include these images in my discord bot so its 69420, I could really have done with that 15mb file back then...

sturdy bobcat
#

Take a photo on an iPhone SE

#

Ez 20mb photos

fallow crow
#

imagine owning a new iphone

#

im still out here on the 6, its lasted be 4 and a bit years, its treated me well, almost time to get a new one i reckon, glass is all smashed up, a group of pixels has gone white, but id say thats not bad for 4 and a bit years of use

velvet crescent
#

Imagine owning an iphone

woven prairie
#

Could never be me

foggy mortar
#

hello guys
i need a suggestion
should i use intel pentium or intel xeon skylark for a hosting?
im planning to make 32gb + 32gb + 32gb all 8 cores

fallow crow
#

wanna post in any more channels?

#

cos you missed all the support channels, the update channels and the service channels

woven prairie
#

Ryzen 7 3700 vs. Intel Xeon E3 1270v6

velvet crescent
#

y u leave me on read Gian

woven prairie
#

I haven't opened it yet 😮

velvet crescent
#

I see how it is

foggy mortar
#

so

#

can anyone answer it?

#

should i use intel pentium or intel xeon skylark or amd for a hosting?

woven prairie
#

what does a hosting mean

velvet crescent
#

Some weird magic idk

foggy mortar
#

smth like dat

woven prairie
#

Just a normal server host?

magic summit
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From https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hosting

  1. a person who receives or entertains guests at home or elsewhere:
    the host at a theater party.
  2. a master of ceremonies, moderator, or interviewer for a television or radio program.
  3. a person, place, company, or the like, that provides services, resources, etc., as for a convention or sporting event:
    Our city would like to serve as host for the next Winter Olympics.
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Just a normal server host?
@woven prairie yea i guess

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@sterile parrot My business logic

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I'm reverting that commit

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Get rid of apache commons right now

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Bro that's the business logic. The business logic!

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All the business logic. gone.

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@light scaffold Get a load of this

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Absolutely ridiculous

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😫

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Im gonna whip this repository's code back into shape

light scaffold
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Carrying the team

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Lol

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Package by layer 🤢

long summit
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No jetbrains annotations cryingblob

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He named the commit "clean up"

mellow zinc
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What does re-base do?