if you're getting it
#off-topic
sturdy bobcat
mellow zinc
lightning ๐ฌ
wary willow
eternal apex
@sharp sky 4
sharp sky
Wot how
eternal apex
theyโre just squares lol
thatโs level 23 tho damn
what was level 1?
1 + 1 = ?
sharp sky
No ._.
It's easy actually
Don't even need help for that lvl
Anyway, still confused about the prev pattern
Or you just simply found it by 9 x 4 = 36 ?
eternal apex
all squares of single digit numbers are on that table, except the square of 2 (4)
thereโs no pattern within the arrangement of the cells, merely their values
mellow wedge
@rigid sluice you can remove it if it's fulfilled btw
fallow crow
yo what browser do y'all use? I use Firefox personally.
viscid kraken
fallow crow
why did you switch?
fallow crow
mhm
normal sable
fallow crow
pretty sure most people dont even buy sony vegas
they just get it pirated
that's what some youtubers do as well
mellow zinc
as frosty says, if u cant afford it, u dont need it ๐๏ธ ๐ ๐๏ธ
floral umbra
wait does barry manages the roles that they give once ppl boost? or is that like automatic discord thing
@hidden gyro pretty sure its barry. if you have a high enough tier in the server, it adds the color above nitro boost when you boost or smth
trim raft
velvet crescent
@rigid sluice If your request was completed, please delete it
sharp sky
#738969311628230676 message bumping advertisement ๐
boreal escarp
=lock
honest thistleBOT
sharp sky
Sounds just like the dude from yesterday...
velvet crescent
All these fucking kids lately jesus fuck
sharp sky
Seems like the idiot both yesterday and today only ping anyone in the top online list, so I can't be pinged by him that easily
Maybe that's the same idiot from yesterday 
Easy portable regex here 
velvet crescent
It's sad that discord doesn't have counter meassures for this shit, like they could easily have an option where a server owner can disable a user being able to send a message if it contains too many pings
frozen escarp
ig, but bots can pick up on that
velvet crescent
But it still notifies the users pinged
frozen escarp
true
sharp sky
Wish if discord lib even have pre-chat event
velvet crescent
Which kinda defeats the purpouse
frozen escarp
yes but like frosty said it still pings you
fallow crow
bots cant stop people from sending messages
sharp sky
I am surprised how that feature isn't even on high priority
Most everyone wants it a lot
frozen escarp
think i remember reading a suggestion like that
velvet crescent
Because discord focuses on dumb shit, instead of important shit
velvet crescent
Like ain't nobody needs new features if all the previous ones are still shit
Read the changelogs and you'll see
solid parcel
frozen escarp
BAAS v1.4.5 coming soon Cube?
muted fern
stops mass mentions now
frozen escarp
epic
muted fern
told to be fairly aggressive
frozen escarp
๐ฎ
muted fern
aint no warning
frozen escarp
๐ฅพ
muted fern
just get auto muted
velvet crescent
5
frozen escarp
noice
there like a cooldown as well, so people can't spam messages with 4 mentions?
thats too long lol
should only be like a few seconds
probs not even necessary tbh
frozen escarp
i wouldnt do that lol
muted fern
there like a cooldown as well, so people can't spam messages with 4 mentions?
@frozen escarp we already have anti spam/dupe stuff
so i'd just get picked up by something else
frozen escarp
ah ic
muted fern
@pale grotto it has to be different users lol
pale grotto
@pale grotto @muted fern @pale grotto @muted fern @pale grotto
Why won't it mute me huh
frozen escarp
barry smart
pale grotto
I don't think cube would ever ban me
He would mute me
But not ban
=annoy @pale grotto
sharp sky
Feels like creating my own Javascript-Expansion this whole time lol
twin dune
Clip: * mentions everyone *
Barry: No sir, you can't be doing that no more - here is a special role
twin dune
I know
muted fern
checks users not roles <o/
fringe sigil
Was 1.16.2 an nms change
fringe sigil
Ok too bad
fringe sigil
@boreal escarp Can u test kiteboard on 1.16.2 for me
Its too warm and my laptop will not be able to take minecraft in this heat
modern tiger
thoughts?
ebon shadow
Knock off the generic effects then it looks ok
modern tiger
What'd you put in place?
ebon shadow
Nothing
modern tiger
The effects help grab peoples attention
ebon shadow
Just remove the awful generic fire stuff and it looks good
fringe sigil
effect looks cool
modern tiger
Especially considering there are so many other moving banners
ebon shadow
It grabs my attention and makes me realise I don't wanna touch your server with a ten foot pole, going by that. At least to me
Like its good, nice and fairly clean if you remove the fire
ebon shadow
You already did last night, then that whole thing went down
modern tiger
Oh, didn't remember you responding but no worries. How about my store?
Haven't added temrs and considitions and privacy policy yet but thats the last step
modern tiger
store is http://shop.zesteria.com
modern tiger
They're kinda expensive, and they come with Enterprise plan if i get there
light scaffold
EULA compliance is probably a good idea
ebon shadow
u wat now
light scaffold
Cloudflare gives free ones
ebon shadow
SSL certs are free
light scaffold
So does let's encrypt
modern tiger
Oh
ebon shadow
I use LetsEncrypt, but CloufFlare gives them too yeah
modern tiger
How do i set it up with buycraft?
ebon shadow
oh god buycraft
modern tiger
nvm ill google
eternal apex
feelsbadman
I want to make a buycraft alternative one day
actually did once in the past, never got anywhere tho
project got abandoned
ebon shadow
same, its awful and expensive for stuff u shouldn't have to pay for
ebon shadow
Fair enough
modern tiger
unfortunately the only option ๐ฆ
eternal apex
yeah .-.
modern tiger
yeah
eternal apex
there's people out there that actually think tebex's price is justifiable
which is honestly just fascinating
ebon shadow
Just saying, you probably want to be EULA compliant
eternal apex
fuck the eula
modern tiger
^
ebon shadow
uh why
modern tiger
But I think im eula compliant regardless
ebon shadow
Unbans and unmutes are not compliant
modern tiger
Really?
ebon shadow
Yeah...
Anyway, Piggy even if it isn't, I don't think you should add to the problem and be non compliant just because everyone else does
modern tiger
Servers being p2w isn't even bad
velvet crescent
craftingstore good 
eternal apex
eula compliance isn't one of them
modern tiger
Every game
ebon shadow
Servers being p2w isn't even bad
HOW
ebon shadow
Its awful
ebon shadow
eh?
modern tiger
P2w isn't bad at all
as long as you allow options for the players to accomplish the same things
eternal apex
ik most people hate on p2w, but I honestly couldn't care less
velvet crescent
So long it's not completelly broken it's fine
modern tiger
^
ebon shadow
You can make money by not being p2w
eternal apex
not as much money
and server owning is all about $$$$$$ most of the time
edit: no, I retract this statement. probably not most of the time
modern tiger
That logic is so flawed @ebon shadow
Let's say I start doing that
or other servers
something has to give
ebon shadow
My friend ran a server for about a month, no ranks, no store, nothing. People donated to him and be made ยฃ30 off of donations alone
ebon shadow
How is that funny?
modern tiger
velvet crescent
<bruh sound>
ebon shadow
I gave an example of a profitable server that was EULA compliant and not p2w
velvet crescent
Not really stupid if you have morals
modern tiger
#room 1
ebon shadow
Thanks Frosty
modern tiger
It has nothing to do with morals
ebon shadow
I mean
velvet crescent
Not everyone is doing this solely for money
And yes it does have to do with morals
modern tiger
you dont have to have headphones
eternal apex
I definitely respect non p2w servers more than p2w ones
but I've got no problem with p2w
think that sums up my opinion entirely
modern tiger
p2w servers
are usually a lot better
than non
more features
more development
because more money
velvet crescent
Not the case at all
velvet crescent
Usually p2w means more money, but the people who run the server are more greedy
modern tiger
Sorry
Piglet wanna review my store?
@velvet crescent Being greedy isn't a problem. It's business.
velvet crescent
To elaborate on that, greedy as in, taking more money for yourself, than to invest in the future growth of the server
light scaffold
Business shouldn't be about greed
queen jewel
Your business is selling someone else's product which people already paid for.
modern tiger
@light scaffold You're trying to argue about morality and ethics and those don't matter. What matters is if their greed affects their business negatively.
Arguing about morality is a losing battle
eternal apex
Piglet wanna review my store?
no
light scaffold
I would argue that selling p2w items that are both against the EULA and could potentially cause problems (eg kids wanting refunds), and therefore would most likely negatively affect a business
velvet crescent
Niall, atleast he blurred out all the bad language
fringe sigil
im going to flush you like a stinky turd frosty
velvet crescent
Okay 
fringe sigil
@boreal escarp
@boreal escarp Can u test kiteboard on 1.16.2 for me
@fringe sigil
frozen escarp
i am so bored lol
velvet crescent
That diagnosing user lmao
frozen escarp
lmao
modern tiger
@light scaffold Doesn't matter if they want refunds. If terms are clearly stated it doesn't matter. Also, doens't matter if it's against the eula. They don't enforce for one, and second p2w isn't bad. Every single game has p2w*.
modern tiger
yeah
fringe sigil
I ported a C method to rust. Anyone fancy improving it?
magic summit
Doesn't matter if they want refunds. If terms are clearly stated it doesn't matter. Also, doens't matter if it's against the eula. They don't enforce for one, and second p2w isn't bad. Every single game has p2w*.
@modern tiger Those are some bullsh*t reasons to justify this.
Just because a company doesn't waste employees, time and money to check every server for if they follow the eula doesn't mean it's okay.
You can also do something that is illegal and it's "fine" because the police doesn't look at you 24/7 but it doesn't make it less illegal
frozen escarp
^
modern tiger
I'm not arguing on morality. I'm arguing based off of if it makes sense, and it doesn't.
frozen escarp
Big money if you go against it lol
modern tiger
The thing is, you guys are just gonna constantly be scoffing at people at the top for doing something you deem morally bad. It's about time you got off your high horse of i do no wrong and move on in some way shape of form.
velvet crescent
This just devaluates your entire argument about why it's "not bad" even further
modern tiger
Care to explain?
fringe sigil
๐
frozen escarp
lol
modern tiger
The harsh reality of the world is if you play by the rules is you're going to get eaten alive, or left behind. All this moral bull shit that most people love to flaunt that they abide by in the real world is complete bull shit for the majority of people. The people who make the rules that you so blindlessly follow in your everyday life break them.
You guys are still living in fantasyland, time to wake up.
fringe sigil
DCI tony gates ๐
modern tiger
?
velvet crescent
Seems to me like you're the one living in it, but hey, I'm not here to judge
modern tiger
I think based off of your track record that's very invalid.
frozen escarp
yikes
queen jewel
What track record are you basing that on?
frozen escarp
the fact frosty roasts him a lot
velvet crescent
You mean your slandering of assumptions
frozen escarp
lmfao
modern tiger
Are there more than one that I'm not aware of?
frozen escarp
yes
queen jewel
Are there more than one that I'm not aware of?
I havent seen anything that would make his statement invalid. If you have, feel free to share
modern tiger
Roasts is not the right world it's more like him just attacking me at every opportunity to spread his animosity towards me
You mean your slandering of assumptions
@velvet crescent ? Was my assumption that you greatly dislike me and that you'll do anything to express that no matter the scenario inaccurate?
velvet crescent
Greatelly, but not about to argue about it since it's pointless, your opinion is your opinion, so
sharp sky
This convo is just getting off-track for each agression you have, dude ._.
ebon shadow
one last thing to say before this ends.
forcing people to code
Example Cosmicpvp.com
CosmicSky
Cosmicprisons
I would say these servers, especially cosmicpvp, are p2w. As for forcing people to code, you got any proof to back that up or are you slinging around accusations?
Not trying to start yet another argument guys, just want to know if you have proof of that so I can stay the hell away
modern tiger
? forcing people to code? what are you talking about, and yeah I said cosmic servers are a great example of p2w servers.
light scaffold
It's not hard to make a company that isn't scummy
Scummy tactics are just the easy way out
light scaffold
Why is that relevant
modern tiger
that's wrong
light scaffold
p2w in general is a scummy tactic. You can say that morals don't matter, but it's possible to make a successful server without p2w, so it's just laziness
Which is kinda the opposite of what capitalism stands for lol
modern tiger
It's not so easy to define that it's laziness or anything
Not everything is black and white
light scaffold
I could make a p2w set of ranks in about an hour
frozen escarp
rather not get a huge ass tax evasion fine lmao
light scaffold
It's inherently easier
frozen escarp
You need to balance your server so its equal. It's not hard imo
modern tiger
You're not understanding what im saying. No point of responding.
frozen escarp
lol
modern tiger
Not talking to you tradie
light scaffold
In what way is it not lazy?
fringe sigil
twin squirrel
modern tiger
because not everything is black and white
modern tiger
I did yes
light scaffold
You could say that about any scummy business model
modern tiger
That it's not always laziness. There could be a multitude of different reasons.
fringe sigil
FA ๐
light scaffold
such as?
modern tiger
As to why people don't just blindlessly follow the eula
It's undoubtedly better overall for everyone involved.
light scaffold
Apart from the people who can't afford a $500 rank
which is probably a majority
So no, it's not
modern tiger
how about colorblind peo- o wait gray is a color nvm
@hidden gyro its a saying
velvet crescent
As to why people don't just blindlessly follow the eula
They don't because it's not enforced enough, if it was enforced server standards would be very different these days, but since it's not, this is the mess we have
modern tiger
@light scaffold Idk if you have realized yet but no where in the world does life cater to people who can't afford things
fringe sigil
EULA cops
modern tiger
If you can't afford to put in the time
fringe sigil
benefit scheme
light scaffold
no where in the world does life cater to people who can't afford things
Firstly that's not true
sturdy bobcat
modern tiger
They don't because it's not enforced enough, if it was enforced server standards would be very different these days, but since it's not, this is the mess we have
@velvet crescent the whole reason why they even made changes to it is because it was bad. They will eventually change it
fringe sigil
light scaffold
Also, saying that doesn't give you an excuse to violate the mc eula and engage in scummy business models
modern tiger
Firstly that's not true
@light scaffold please dont argue on technicality
woven prairie
They don't because it's not enforced enough, if it was enforced server standards would be very different these days, but since it's not, this is the mess we have
Acc, it's not followed because $$$, not cause it's not enforced - There'll always be bypasses
light scaffold
??
I'm arguing on what you said being wrong
That's usually how these things work...
fringe sigil
โน๏ธ
modern tiger
It's not wrong
light scaffold
it literally is though
fringe sigil
I like to drown out arguments
velvet crescent
Gian, if they enforced it and it had actual consequences it wouldn't be the case
modern tiger
If you want a Ferrari and you can't afford the price the person telling you lays out what happens?
light scaffold
that is not an equivalent analogy
sturdy bobcat
jesus christ
woven prairie
Remember SquidHQ, we'll have a new thing like it
sturdy bobcat
what in the loving fuck is that
honest thistleBOT
modern tiger
@sturdy bobcat spam
velvet crescent
No clue what that is Gian
sturdy bobcat
Niall whatever you say wont 'drown out' the argument, Just dont read the chat move somewhere else
modern tiger
^
fringe sigil
fine
velvet crescent
I mean we're having a chill debate right now so all good
modern tiger
^
light scaffold
the whole 'nothing is free" argument doesn't work, because this is literally a video game
light scaffold
EULA compliant servers exist, therefore it's fully practical to have servers without p2w
modern tiger
That argument that real life concepts don't apply because it's a video game doesn't apply
light scaffold
Pretty sure they do?
sturdy bobcat
Servers that are compliant with the EULA don't make as much money as p2w servers, that's just a fact
light scaffold
doesn't matter
modern tiger
It's all reality. That argument doens't make any sense fundamentally
sturdy bobcat
if the owners of the server are just doing it for money, they'll make it p2w 
light scaffold
it's literally not though
nova star
If you make your own server jar they can't ban you
frozen escarp
OMFG
light scaffold
pretty sure they can
nova star
hM
frozen escarp
WHAT THE F
nova star
At least you aren't forced to accept the EULA
light scaffold
Since the EULA is for the game itself
frozen escarp
lol
modern tiger
the whole 'nothing is free" argument doesn't work, because this is literally a video game
@light scaffold this is a stone age argument.
sturdy bobcat
nova star
I open a connection and listen to bytes lol
nova star
20x less ram usage
sturdy bobcat
dont explain it, i dont care
light scaffold
no, it's not...
frozen escarp
ori
sturdy bobcat
Tradie
modern tiger
lmfao
light scaffold
You've not made a point in ages, all you've done is just try and disregard my point
modern tiger
I don't know how to point out something that doesn't have a point
You have no logic
I don't know how to point out that
light scaffold
how?
sturdy bobcat
modern tiger
other than saying it makes no sense
light scaffold
in both the real world and Minecraft it's more than practical to make a business without resorting to scummy tactics
So don't claim that it's not
You are hiding behind the "nothing is free" argument to use as an excuse for violating the EULA and implementing p2w
sturdy bobcat
is being a whore a scummy business tactic
light scaffold
No
modern tiger
the whole 'nothing is free" argument doesn't work, because this is literally a video game
@light scaffold
frozen escarp
mass ping > EULA debate
sturdy bobcat
modern tiger
this was your point. how does that make any sense.
sturdy bobcat
Our video game
modern tiger
I was explaining before that you made that statement. That your argument that servers selling $500 dollar ranks isn't fair seems like you don't live in the same planet as me. Because in literally everything aspect of your life nothing is fair.
sturdy bobcat
all i can say is if the EULA starts getting enforced
a lot of servers
are practically fucked
velvet crescent
It will never be fully enforced, it's not really realistically posible
sturdy bobcat
I just laugh at these ranks
modern tiger
I'm making the highest rank $1000
sturdy bobcat
why
light scaffold
Nothing you said made any sense
modern tiger
Which part?
The part where i explained how you're not living on the same planet as me
sturdy bobcat
more people will buy it if its on an eXcLuSiVe sAlE tHaT mIghT eNd tOmoRroW
modern tiger
or the part where i said that I was making a rank on my server $1000?
light scaffold
What makes you think that a fair business model is so outlandish?
sturdy bobcat
The part where i explained how you're not living on the same planet as me
@modern tiger bro technology is crazy nowadays, we can now communicate through discord on different planets
modern tiger
@hidden gyro I think making stuff only achievable is fine, but players should be able to get that rank without having to pay real life money.
@sturdy bobcat Yessir he's out of this world
sturdy bobcat
he just
modern tiger
Jump off 4head
sturdy bobcat
jumped out
light scaffold
@sturdy bobcat Yessir he's out of this world
????
sturdy bobcat
light scaffold
Since when is it out of this world to say that companies should use fair business models
modern tiger
I'm saying you don't understand concepts that are followed in this world
light scaffold
Such as???
sturdy bobcat
Life isnt fair but who said we can't try to make it even more fair
modern tiger
And for some reason you expect that to change in minecraft
velvet crescent
Saying life isn't fair, is a pretty weak argument
light scaffold
^^^
sturdy bobcat
If its not a fair business model and it is like the biggest dick way of doing it however, If you're making a server purely to get money and profit from it, thats pure capitalism, and we're communists here my dude
modern tiger
If you read the context of my message
light scaffold
It's entirely practical to make a fair server, saying "life isn't fair" is just a petty excuse
modern tiger
It's a perfectly viable argument
ebon shadow
weather life is fair or not shouldn't really affect a minecraft server
light scaffold
^
velvet crescent
Just because life isn't fair, doesn't mean you're going to go robbing banks are you*
light scaffold
This is a game
It's not real life
You can make a fair server
Stop pretending it's impossible
sturdy bobcat
if you make a server that compliances with the EULA and its very wholesome
modern tiger
He was saying that servers having $500 ranks isn't fair. Please stop taking my messages out of context
light scaffold
Because it's not...
modern tiger
And I'm saying life isn't fair
sturdy bobcat
@frozen escarp you hear that? you get a cookie from me if you go with the EULA
modern tiger
It's naive of you to expect anything different
modern tiger
@sturdy bobcat you don't get a cookie either. You get a imaginary pat on the back and then reality sinks in.
modern tiger
Or it doens't
sturdy bobcat
ebon shadow
Always happens until the plant dies?
light scaffold
this is absurd
modern tiger
Or reality doesn't set in either way you're losing
light scaffold
capitalism is not reality, and capitalism isn't necessarily unfair
sturdy bobcat
Let's get this sodium 
modern tiger
@sturdy bobcat Instead you should be writing them a huge check, and then also proving them therapy
light scaffold
But that doesn't mean that capitalism is an excuse for using a scummy business model
sturdy bobcat
I don't see how that makes sense though?
light scaffold
it doesn't
modern tiger
because making a non p2w server is a waste of time
sturdy bobcat
how?
light scaffold
??
ebon shadow
eh
sturdy bobcat
Making a minecraft server for profit is like
magic summit
Why are worlds so complicated...
@nova star Because Minecraftโข๏ธ
ebon shadow
Are you insane man
sturdy bobcat
the scummiest shit in the world
light scaffold
since when??
modern tiger
And you're wanting to give them a pat on the back for their wasted efforts.
light scaffold
aw man, look how much effort Hypixel wasted!
ebon shadow
^
nova star
Hypixel doesn't get that much of a profit
modern tiger
@sturdy bobcat yeah how dare people make money on a server that they enjoy working on.
sturdy bobcat
Despite the fact they're making millions a year 
nova star
They pay their staff good
ebon shadow
Thats good though
light scaffold
@sturdy bobcat yeah how dare people make money on a server that they enjoy working on
That's not what for-profit is
ebon shadow
They don't need profit
sturdy bobcat
no one said they dont have to get money from it ?
velvet crescent
Illusion, because they invest into the growth of their server
modern tiger
@sturdy bobcat How dare people fall out of the social norms and dont work shitty 9 5 jobs that they hate
nova star
Simon doesn't make much money
velvet crescent
As oppose to most p2w server owners which bag most of the profits
light scaffold
making money from something you enjoy is inherently different to making something specifically for profit
sturdy bobcat
If you think the entire point of the server is to create money and not to provide a place of entertainment for players, you deserve your dick chopped off
nova star
They pay devs 60k/yr iirc
ebon shadow
Oh no, I made a server that gives everyone equal opportunity and gives my community a place to go. Oh but its not P2W so its a waste of time Mr4Skinz?
modern tiger
@light scaffold That doens't make any sense
light scaffold
Yes it does
modern tiger
You guys are so out of touch with reality
nova star
Don't violate the EULA
ebon shadow
Uh
sturdy bobcat
4Skins is saying to break the eula
modern tiger
Fuck yeah i am
light scaffold
Minecraft. Isn't. Reality.
nova star
If you're gonna make a server then follow the game rules
ebon shadow
You guys are so out of touch with reality
If you're the one thats saying that to a group of people, you're probably the one out of touch with reality.
Also as BM said, minecraft isn't reality, its a video game
modern tiger
@light scaffold Of course it is. Then there would be an absense of your life gone when you play. that is the most basic way to explain it to you.
fringe sigil
๐ sassy
๐ moody
๐ nasty
nova star
They invest the money, not pocket it
They care about user experience and not ripping them off
sturdy bobcat
The servers I make now are purely for entertainment and not for the money from it, Not everyone wants to make minecraft servers to profit off them
ebon shadow
^
nova star
If hypixel was a P2W server it wouldn't be as large as it is
modern tiger
@ebon shadow No i just have to been in a group of people that are out of touch of reality. That's entirely circumstance. If you changed the setting and put the conversation with people who are living with their head stuck in sand then you'd be receiving a different response. It all depends on who the audience is.
sturdy bobcat
Am i out of touch with reality for simply making a server that doesnt require you to pay for everything ?
light scaffold
Of course it is. Then there would be an absense of your life gone when you play.
That doesn't make something reality...
nova star
Yet they make as much revenue as one
sturdy bobcat
They make more revenue
magic summit
You guys are so out of touch with reality
@modern tiger I mean... yeah sure. I follow the laws in my country each day, but right... I'm out of touch with the reality I live in.
Dude listen. Maybe reality looks different for you, but it doesn't mean we are all wrong. People can follow rules, laws, etc and still be happy and successfull, while others aren't.
Your argument that to be successfull (with an MC server) you have to break rules is so utter bull shit, that I can only laugh about it.
light scaffold
It's kind of depressing how this guy thinks that wanting fair business is out of touch with reality
sturdy bobcat
lmao no other server is making millions a year and none of them have enough money to create their own game
light scaffold
It's not an unreasonable thing to ask
light scaffold
lmao
velvet crescent
Okay y'all tone it down a bit before Hexahedron gets mad
modern tiger
@magic summit Do you follow every single law? Every single one? Do you think the people that make your laws follow reality?
You know why surveys and studys dont just have one set of people
Is cause it's biased
and it's innacurate
nova star
So don't ask just andre
modern tiger
and doesn't represent
nova star
Ask everyone here
sturdy bobcat
Frosty's 'harassment' towards 4skin is starting to get deserved
modern tiger
the actual truth
light scaffold
If you genuinely think that not wanting unfair business is out of touch with reality, you're deluded
It is more than possible
modern tiger
@light scaffold Reword please so waht you said makes sense
magic summit
@magic summit Do you follow every single law? Every single one? Do you think the people that make your laws follow reality?
@modern tiger Yes I do.
I don't break the laws my country has as doing so would get me into trouble... Like best case would be paying a high amount of money and worse case would be getting into Jail for several years
fringe sigil
Post it in showcase where people can vote
light scaffold
It made perfect sense
sturdy bobcat
I don't see the problem with making a minecraft server purely for people to enjoy without needing to pay for everything
modern tiger
@magic summit What country do you live in lets see if theres ever been a case of corruption
sturdy bobcat
it made sense but requires 3 active braincells to comprehend, bm
light scaffold
Clearly
sturdy bobcat
All countries have corruption
modern tiger
@sturdy bobcat There isn't a problem
sturdy bobcat
What's your point then
light scaffold
@magic summit What country do you live in lets see if theres ever been a case of corruption
What does that have to do with anything??
magic summit
Post it in showcase where people can vote
@fringe sigil We shouldn't publicly shame/blame him more. He already lost our trust a long time ago.
modern tiger
@sturdy bobcat What are you talking about
sturdy bobcat
fringe sigil
?
modern tiger
I'm confused on what argument you're arguing over
fringe sigil
why have we lost trust?
modern tiger
@fringe sigil Not losing trust it's a just a reality
sturdy bobcat
i wanna know how many times mrskins has mentioned people
magic summit
The country I live in doesn't matter. Corruption exists pretty much everywhere and isn't a key factor of if you follow their law or not.
I only say I live in europe which is fairly normal with corruption imo.
why have we lost trust?
@fringe sigil With that I mean we won't believe the stuff he says
magic summit
Agree
modern tiger
It has to do with his response
magic summit
Not really
sturdy bobcat
Skin is literally just going completely offtopic at this point
modern tiger
You guys keep taking shit i say out of context
sturdy bobcat
I counted atleast like
modern tiger
Me speaking with like 7 difrerent people
sturdy bobcat
42 mentions from checking a few people
magic summit
Me following rules has 0 influence from corruption
modern tiger
about a topic
sturdy bobcat
Stop speaking then
sturdy bobcat
I think all we can take from this is the fact that you need to stop speaking here that's not been mean or whatever but everyday there's some issue
Okay then take this to a dm conversation
nova star
Stop trying to prove and condone that breaking the EULA (and potentially the law) is perfectly fine
magic summit
Your points you made where debunked by at least 3 different people, so any further arguments only destroys your reputation any further (if you even had any to begin with)
modern tiger
I'm not saying it's fine
mellow zinc
hey whats this argument debate about
modern tiger
I'm saying it happens
sturdy bobcat
The EULA
light scaffold
That's not an excuse
sturdy bobcat
my dude 4skin is saying that wanting a fair business model is out of touch with reality
sturdy bobcat
and they're condoning breaking the eula
light scaffold
It happens, but isn't unreasonable
mellow zinc
what does that even mean what
light scaffold
that's different to "it's reality"
sturdy bobcat
ex fucking actly
light scaffold
Unfair business happens, but it's not unreasonable or unrealistic to make a fair business
nova star
Thanks for the XP bois but I'm loosing braincells
light scaffold
Saying "it's reality" is a poor excuse
sturdy bobcat
I have gained xp but at what cost
magic summit
Let's keep going so I get img perms
@nova star I already have them
fringe sigil
Who has some music
sturdy bobcat
i have a lot of garbage music
modern tiger
In that statement I was condoning breaking the eula, the previous ones I'm saying its a reality that happens all the time. This all stemmed from Cloure not udnerstanding that life isn't fair and was crying about how it's unfair shows that he doesn't have a grasp on every day concepts.
nova star
You condone breaking the EULA
sturdy bobcat
At times like this i wish we had Sxtanna here
sturdy bobcat
cus he's just throw 4Skinz into the next fucking plane of reality
light scaffold
I am fully aware that life isn't fair, my point is that it's possible to make things that are fair
fringe sigil
Lmao
mellow zinc
he got beaned
frozen escarp
Why did sx leave anyway
sturdy bobcat
yeah beaned
ebon shadow
Beaned
frozen escarp
wait what
sturdy bobcat
it was Sx
fallow crow
beaned
sturdy bobcat
it was coming eventually lmao
frozen escarp
F
mellow zinc
ik why 
modern tiger
frozen escarp
UR shit dev
sharp sky
Erm.. excuse me? https://prnt.sc/tycn57
ebon shadow
I've been sworn to secrecy by Piggy, sorry
sturdy bobcat
ah yes
fallow crow
same
sharp sky
The weird "text" in the right tho
nova star
ew prntsc
sturdy bobcat
Piggy secrecy is sacred
sturdy bobcat
fringe sigil
I didnt see what happened
nova star
Skinz here is deleting half his msges because they make him look bad
sturdy bobcat
i wanted to know 
fringe sigil
But they were disagreeing or something
modern tiger
its true that servers breaks eulas and its true that some servers do, but just bc alot of ppl do it dosent mean that u should make it p2w
@hidden gyro It's not my fault that the system has put forth rules that don't make sense, and the fact that the majority of the people that should be following the eula aren't is an indicator that there should be systematic reform.
mellow zinc
lets just say it shouldnt be mentioned niall
mellow zinc
he aint do nothing wrong!
modern tiger
I'm literally having a conversation with 10 people it's hard to be able to think clearly when reading so many different peoples opinions. If i was given the time to respond to each one individually without the rat race of ideas playing a toll then this would be a lot easier.
fringe sigil
in mr skinz defence
sturdy bobcat
there aint any defence about it
fringe sigil
It must be hard being a small compliant server seeing everyone else breaking all the rules making big bucks
nova star
Pretty funny saying "life isn't fair" and chasing money from someone that forced me to refund after making a plugin due to some clientside particles
sturdy bobcat
Yeah but going back to my point
If you're making a server for the profit and money off it
you're a dick in short
nova star
You're a small dick in large
sturdy bobcat
but if you're making it purely for people to have fun and not for any/little profit
modern tiger
yea the first step of reforming it is to not do it
@hidden gyro No the first step of reform is to start the process of reform. Spread awareness. What we're seeing today is rioting by people protesting. The servers protest is by not following it, because it doesn't make any sense should be the most appropriate protest out.
mellow zinc
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sturdy bobcat
jesus fucking christ
nova star
This is next-level wrong
fallow crow
sturdy bobcat
What is with people and bringing up BLM on irrelevant topics
nova star
I'll make sure to publicly shame you on other servers
mellow zinc
this comparison doesnt even make sense
light scaffold
this is going on a huge tangent
sturdy bobcat
my dude seriously out here comparing BLM with a fucking video game EULA
mellow zinc
i wouldnt even call breaking the eula a prottest
light scaffold
lmao
mellow zinc
its just breaking the rules
sturdy bobcat
I dont agree with the EULA but I follow it because its the rules
modern tiger
What is with people and bringing up BLM on irrelevant topics
@sturdy bobcat I wasn't bringing up blm specifically but the more so the people protesting what they believe.
sturdy bobcat
why bring it up in the first place
mellow zinc
off topic is great i love it
light scaffold
It's totally irrelevant
velvet crescent
Okay y'all tone it down a bit before Hexahedron gets mad
sturdy bobcat
Breaking game rules != Protesting for beliefs
light scaffold
This is getting ridiculous
fallow crow
mellow zinc
hexahedron LMAO
magic summit
beaned for what lo
@hidden gyro (Not sure if already answered. Can't bother reading the trainwreck of a chat) He was banned for general bad behaviour. Constantly picking fights and argued about stuff.
Generally gave negative/insulting responses to people that searched for dev help with stuff and didn't understand the solutions he gave.
Broke PAPI in hundreds of ways that would make a Major version change (2.10.x -> 2.11.0) but only made a minor patch version out of it.
And finally made clip leave this server and almost consider abandoning PAPI because of his a-hole like behaviour.
tl;dr he acted like a d*ck
modern tiger
why bring it up in the first place :CBUWot:
@sturdy bobcat I didn't bring up blm. You guys brought up blm. I brought up the art of protesting.
frozen escarp
light scaffold
Pretty sure you did...
sturdy bobcat
I dont see how protesting is an art
light scaffold
rioting by people protesting
That sounds pretty familiar...
nova star
I don't see how the EULA makes everyone go bankrupt and needs to be stopped
ebon shadow
neither
sturdy bobcat
here comes skins posting an excessive amount of gifs because they realise they don't have any actual points
light scaffold
People just want more money with less effort
fallow crow
Guys.... Its a kids blocky game chill out
light scaffold
^
sturdy bobcat
yes it is
nova star
Mojang is being nice and letting people charge money for stuff and these guys say "fuck you, too many restrictions"
magic summit
The EULA is pretty much "Don't sell our stuff or sell unfair advantages for real money"
So - in most basic terms - could you sell kits, as long as those can be gathered through normal gameplay on the server ๐คท
modern tiger
I don't see how the EULA makes everyone go bankrupt and needs to be stopped
@nova star In a business you need to have a net positive cash flow. If that doesn't occur businesses shut down.
ebon shadow
As I've already said, my friend made a successful server off of donations alone with no store, and nothing to buy. There was no advantage to being a donator, people just wanted to help pay hosting costs and help the server
No p2w there
light scaffold
exactly
modern tiger
@nova star Based on past experiences with you specifically, I don't believe you do.
sturdy bobcat
thats exactly what im planning on doing katsu
light scaffold
it's not "out of touch with reality" to say that p2w bad
nova star
Yes, I do my work, you complain and bitch at me over some clientside particles and demand a refund
queen jewel
@nova star Based on past experiences with you specifically, I don't believe you do.
@modern tiger
mate, is that your reply to everything?
magic summit
In a business you need to have a net positive cash flow. If that doesn't occur businesses shut down.
@modern tiger Yeah... Let's completely forget non-profit organisations that technically don't make a profit as that is instantly donated or used for other stuff....
ebon shadow
ooo nice one Ori
light scaffold
if you need p2w to make money, that's a problem with your server, not the eula
sturdy bobcat
i dont particularly like the EULA but i wouldn't go out to say break it
ebon shadow
Exactly what BM said
nova star
Unless it's a creative gamemode
light scaffold
yeah
mellow zinc
Yes, I do my work, you complain and bitch at me over some clientside particles and demand a refund
@nova star those particles couldve been sold on the store without it breaking the eula tho
modern tiger
@nova star You didn't complete the transaction, and provide the service you promised you'd complete. Instead I had to open a report on you to recoop my money because you wouldn't do it willingly
ebon shadow
Yeah, they freed a lot of stuff but kept unbans/unmutes, gamemodes, soft currency, etc iirc Ori
nova star
Thanks for the xp
queen jewel
Ey I need some too
sturdy bobcat
queen jewel
kotlin good java bad
Nah
queen jewel
Lets not start this
ebon shadow
Sorry Yugi, you came a bit late
mellow zinc
new topic
light scaffold
kotlin
modern tiger
If anyone actually wants to debate this further send me a pm
light scaffold
i only got 2k xp from this ๐ฆ
nova star
PM doesn't give xp
light scaffold
kinda sucks
nova star
keep this here
sturdy bobcat
soundsl ike a lot of effort
modern tiger
Not really interested in a gang bang
queen jewel
Lets contine this debate here
sharp sky
No ._.
sturdy bobcat
Speak for yourself
ebon shadow
I gained somewhere in the realm of 3k xp, cheers kids
sturdy bobcat
ebon shadow
LMAO
light scaffold
completely off topic, anyone got any reasonably cheap mouse recommendations? mine just died, budget between like $10 and $30
queen jewel
Not really interested in a gang bang
@modern tiger
ouch rejection sheesh
sturdy bobcat
i have like a million spare mice in my house
nova star
some corsair mice are being cheap rn
modern tiger
@light scaffold youtube
nova star
I have a 4$ mouse that works good
sturdy bobcat
thats a website 4head
light scaffold
i had a $10 silent one before and it was pretty good
modern tiger
Why take advise from a bunch of people in a minecraft discord
light scaffold
why not?
mellow zinc
completely off topic, anyone got any reasonably cheap mouse recommendations? mine just died, budget between like $10 and $30
@light scaffold logitech g203
nova star
Because they clearly know more than you @modern tiger
mellow zinc
cheapest mouse and its literally the best
ebon shadow
Have a look at Razer BM, some of their good ones get reduced a TON. I got my Viper for like ยฃ40
frozen escarp
EASY 30 kills
modern tiger
Why not get advice from someone who literally reviews mice professionally
light scaffold
i can get opinions from people who have actually used them rather than reviewers who are sponsored and only try them for about a day
mellow zinc
ive used g203
frozen escarp
lmfao
modern tiger
@nova star You clearly missed my whole point
fallow crow
ive got a razer basilisk, idk how much it is, I just like it because of how nice your hand sits in it
mellow zinc
using it rn
sturdy bobcat
fringe sigil
Heh forgot about this thank @jade oasis
sharp sky
Why not get advice from someone who literally reviews mice professionally
You already have some ๐
modern tiger
So toxic
nova star
ree
mellow zinc
fuck
nova star
lemme get a VPN for america so I can go to amazon :/
sturdy bobcat
my server fucking hates this one
sharp sky
Anyway, I am so screwed why I couldn't even migrate some of the JDA stuffs to kotlin eval
magic summit
So toxic
@modern tiger That's only the response of how you appear to us... You yourself have kind of a toxic attitude here
sharp sky
Let me just get rid of it first
ebon shadow
This is ยฃ40 BM, its the slightly smaller version of the Razer Viper that I have, I love it but eh
https://www.razer.com/gb-en/gaming-mice/razer-viper-mini
nova star
๐
mellow zinc
๐
sturdy bobcat
I love razer stuff
fringe sigil
๐
nova star
I love roccat stuff
sturdy bobcat
it takes me atleast 2 years to start breaking stuff
fringe sigil
๐
mellow zinc
never again will i buy razer
sturdy bobcat
ebon shadow
Corsair keyboards but Logitech/Razer mice are the way imo
light scaffold
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
fringe sigil
Ori
modern tiger
@magic summit ? Are you trying to make this a villain sitaution. bruh. was just saying it was so toxic that @nova star was lashing out at me
fringe sigil
Make this emoji in minecraft
mellow zinc
had 3 mouses from them which all broke in the same year ๐ญ
magic summit
This is ยฃ40 BM, its the slightly smaller version of the Razer Viper that I have, I love it but eh
https://www.razer.com/gb-en/gaming-mice/razer-viper-mini
@ebon shadow I personally have the Death adder of Razer
fringe sigil
๐
nova star
I've had my roccat mouse for like 4 years now
fringe sigil
Thank you
modern tiger
Honestly @nova star you not completing the service was a blessing in disguise
Really helped me in the long run
mellow zinc
๐
sturdy bobcat
and shut the fuck up
light scaffold
nobody cares who scammed who or whatever
mellow zinc
that last part is really important
ebon shadow
Andre my choice of mouse came down to either the Razer Viper or the Deathadder Elite, ultimately went with the Viper for higher DPI and it was slightly smaller
jade oasis
what was i pinged for
fringe sigil
Me
velvet crescent
dw Scholtes
mellow zinc
for great songs scholtes
light scaffold
ew
velvet crescent
light scaffold
talking
nova star
No one wants to talk with you
sturdy bobcat
this is the best i can do
fringe sigil
Trash
mellow zinc
omg
light scaffold
๐
mellow zinc
cursed
fringe sigil
๐
velvet crescent
Ori, "I", shouldn't it be "Nicole"
mellow zinc
delete that
fringe sigil
Ment to look like that
modern tiger
Call room 1 folks
light scaffold
nah
nova star
No one cares
sturdy bobcat
mellow zinc
we need xp
modern tiger
lol
nova star
Give me the xp
mellow zinc
so we stay in off topic
fringe sigil
No
fringe sigil
Read svg
light scaffold
svg good
mellow zinc
just export it to png then
fringe sigil
Stupid Vector Graphics
naive barn
I'm working on a weekly blog where i'd cover and solve an issue present in the Minecraft community. The project would be entirely open-sourced and funded from my personal money and donations. The plan is to come with solutions to issues such as hacking, security, analytics, etc, that are currently unavailable in the community. The idea would be to get more people in, each posting and contributing in some way to the community.
ebon shadow
Or actually convert it
nova star
Does ChatReaction even give xp
light scaffold
yes
nova star
let me rewrite my chatreaction helper
naive barn
The end goal is to create a community that's sharing solutions instead of keeping them in-house