That was back when I only used/trusted spigotmc
#off-topic
twin dune
magic summit
I think that's the most true answer
But seriously... It's obvious that this is just her trying to make it look like she's the victim among bad guys
sturdy bobcat
thats not the entire convo but sure
magic summit
Two things:
1.) Where is prove that this was a real convo with paypal (or whoever)
2.) From the beginning does it already sounds choppy.... In 2020... Sure believable
sturdy bobcat
well im off to sleep because im in a really good mood so 
boreal escarp
Why does she say there's a general problem with validating the purchase of ALL minecraft mods?
That's just .. not true?
Xenforo works just fine on mcm even without a business account.
magic summit
I have those nice bits of a convo I had with her
Right when she started asking stuff like "How it works" did my alarm ring and I smelled her looking if she could get the server/domain
long summit
I have done something
Reading an image and pasting it into chat in minecraft
magic summit
Neato
With 1.16, all those MOTD chat plugins depicting a user's face should be much better
long summit
idk tbh i'll flip it
magic summit
No longer shall my skin be shown as gray
long summit
Oh i think i know why it's flipped
mellow zinc
put it in showcase !!!
frozen escarp
Damn that’s sick
Someone should make a chat thing using RGB that prints a players HEAD when they donate
Or when they do something In general
Command based
normal sable
^ I see a good idea
tawdry apex
long summit
@mellow zinc Done, enjoy
long summit
The chat height is at it's max there, unfortunately you can't do more than 20 lines
trim raft
@long summit I hate that but at the same time I love it
long summit
It's a beautiful work of art okay
trim raft
Picasso would be proud.
elfin minnow
Ok so, i'd like to debunk this whole Songonda thing
Its a fucking exit scam
The reason I know is because PayPal states no changes regarding "Game Modifications' for purchase reasonings as well THEIR PHONE SUPPORT is down.
They have disabled the United States Phone line and most likely others due to Covid-19
sharp sky
@long summit i see what you did there 🗡️
magic summit
What? It's fake?! I never thought Songoda would do this! /s
trim raft
Ad is still on MCM lol
naive agate
xD
frozen escarp
oops
sharp sky
That is everyday for me if you don't check if the sender is a bot
trim raft
vague walrus
We'll it's not wrong
trim raft
sharp sky
That's hilarious from the way Felix talked in the game Tuber Simulator already
It's so weird and cringe too
regal juniper
I've been Admin for about a year now.
trim raft
eternal apex
glare was added a few months after me iirc, merely to balance out the aus-american ratio. Clip was worried about the server becoming too aus
trim raft
velvet crescent
Why am I not in that discord..
ebon shadow
Cos ur an EVIL Java user
velvet crescent
Send me an invite
ebon shadow
Fine
finite falcon
Anybody has ideas on how to make a site with designs similar to this: https://nexttrain.feli.page/#/
winged portal
at first glance it looked like one of those domain expired sites
velvet crescent
That's not reall btw Niall
velvet crescent
Go check spigot, they had a thread regarding this, and considering it's from them, it's 100% fake so :kek:
Don't bypass it smh
drowsy canyon
some big devs do not think so, and have already withdrawn from Songonda - I have no real comment or idea what is going on
fringe sigil
I already removed my plugin
velvet crescent
As you should, anyhow read up on the spigot thread posted yesterday regarding it, no need to discuss further 😉
fringe sigil
I already did
jade oasis
fringe sigil
It deleted the payment history as well
velvet crescent
@ebon shadow How much of the lib actually functions?
fringe sigil
the heck
velvet crescent
Why, just move them to spigot
muted fern
Most likely won't be permanent, but it's to avoid a few things.
Rather we stay out of any drama at the moment
fringe sigil
Just spent 30 mins wondering why this database wasnt working
I had commented out stmt.execute();
muted fern
Oh noes
Done some stuff like that before, recently deleted the actually code and left the debug stuff in
that was fun
velvet crescent
kek
woven prairie
o
velvet crescent
Niall, those animations seem choppy af
fallow crow
^
fringe sigil
Lol
That's what I get for running spigot/minecraft and jprofiler at the same time on a 2.7Ghz cpu
Give me a sec I will re-record it
eternal apex
yourkit >
woven prairie
Essentials kit >
velvet crescent
So Piggy, did you finish the thingy?
woven prairie
DeluxeMenus 1.16 when
muted fern
iirc theres a beta build somewhere
muted fern
¯_(ツ)_/¯
velvet crescent
Spigot
😂
woven prairie
hmmmm
velvet crescent
I know the paper team was talking to mojang about it, so we'll see (iirc it's an issue with them not spigot itself)
fringe sigil
NEW YORK
woven prairie
You can name them in Vanilla, it's an issue with legacy parcing
fringe sigil
use §x§F§F§F§F§F§F
velvet crescent
@mellow zinc Slight issue, ItemJoin has like 300 different things it does, and it wouldn't really make sense to have that all in FJ, so just gonna have it as being able to set inventories for right now
frozen escarp
hi
lofty void
@Matt#7079 I love what you posted in #showcase . That’s too funny! 😂.
I mean, you could probably go further on that 👀. Imagine like a troll plugin, being like ”do /op for free OP!” And that pops up. Or when you ban someone it waits a few seconds before banning it, and plays some reaction gif in their chat
frozen escarp
im a bit mind fucked
lofty void
Matt is immune to @’s, clearly
frozen escarp
tf it says he's online
mellow zinc
basically i was thinking to just yoink its inventory thing (maybe an option to make equippable items immovable) and then make items clickable (for deluxemenus)
velvet crescent
Yea but looking from what all ItemJoin is capable of doing, that'd be hella limiting
And most people would still opt into using that instead
mellow zinc
i look at it as -1 extra plugin 🤷♂️
thats basically what most people come in here for when we say to use itemjoin so
velvet crescent
I mean yea but it's mainly aimed at hubs, so it doesn't really matter if you have 6 or 7 plugins
mellow zinc
true i guess
sturdy bobcat
Hub plugins 
velvet crescent
But I mean for things like starting kits this could work
frozen escarp
who even uses a hub smh
sturdy bobcat
I wanna go back to 2014 to relive the stampylonghead, iballisticsquid and the emerald isles server era
fringe sigil
well it aint gonna happen
stuck in this loop forever
get up- do pretty much nothing- go to bed
magic summit
@muted fern There is an area on the server where you suddenly have PvP active
velvet crescent
Not even using FJ :C
muted fern
dont want malware
sturdy bobcat
frosty, no one wants to use fj
fallow crow
^
magic summit
Why you always on testplugins anyway
@muted fern That's like my 2nd time this month, so "always" is not matching here.
fallow crow
I hope testPlugins runs Fuck1.8 cube
sturdy bobcat
Frosty, smd
muted fern
o
fallow crow
theres no reason not to run Fuck1.8
velvet crescent
dont want malware
twin dune
Someone has bumped their service in #716864120410079322
Inital: https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/716864120410079322/727234314923802737
Bumped: https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/716864120410079322/727496992733003849
mellow zinc
pretty sure TriggerStand also bumped
woven prairie
Upgraded the stu. Pls rate my cables
mellow zinc
a solid 4/10
woven prairie
Thanks. I tried
twin dune
Is that desk wall-mounted?
twin dune
He's a lazy bugger
mellow zinc
and a (coke?) bottle
twin dune
Pepzi
velvet crescent
Fuck is you smoking?
mellow zinc
bRuH
velvet crescent
Pepsi is blue lmao
woven prairie
👀
mellow zinc
pepsi got the blue 😂😂
mellow zinc
also, why the fuck is there a telephone from like the 1980s 😂😂
Mackenzie, pepsi max has a black wrapper and the original is blue
i believe coke zero is also black 🤔
velvet crescent
It is yes
But the packaging is so different you'd have to be blind to mix them up
sharp sky
Wish that product were common here
woven prairie
You see @mellow zinc I had a line in my room, so, I maximized it for free local calls
velvet crescent
sm0rt
muted fern
Someone has bumped their service in #716864120410079322
Inital: https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/716864120410079322/727234314923802737
Bumped: https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/716864120410079322/727496992733003849
@twin dune
pretty sure TriggerStand also bumped
@mellow zinc
Yeah barry's anti bump had a hiccup for the first half of this month so things didn't store correctly. Should be fine next month.
twin dune
looks like they're gonna change their ToS to "for all ages" lol
sharp sky
Is it tho 
twin dune
I mean, that side couldn't look more Universal rated you know?
I love the 3D render of nitro
https://discord.com/assets/d1f837b34217a6e22085262c73e5e9d2.webm
sharp sky
||That UI seen in welcome page is fake, don't you think?||
sturdy bobcat
wdym
boreal escarp
wary willow
thienbao ping me if we start the game
velvet crescent
Not home smh
sharp sky
F
ebon shadow
@velvet crescent school just ended, only saw ur message now. It should all work, just I dont have the system to fire events working
pure bane
So meeting at my work today. We usually get an annual raise around this time. Due to Covid no raise until October
Instead they did this:
If you have perfect attendance every month until the raise, they will give you 4 dollars an hour for every hour you work on top of your normal pay
pure bane
Catch is you have to get perfect attendance for the entire month
That’s going to be a hard one lol
That’s probably why it’s so high. They know they won’t have to pay out a lot lol
pure bane
I’m gonna try
lofty void
What the hell is that bullcrap- excuse my language.
So they try to force perfect attendence? Almost forcing you to get into work if you even start feeling sick. That’s stupid
mellow zinc
👍
lofty void
But indeed, $4 would be nice
sterile parrot
that's like what
pure bane
Wel right now I think they are trying to encourage everyone to go to work
sterile parrot
800$ extra a month
pure bane
We have like 60 openings
muted fern
Yeah feels like it could encourage people that are sick to go to work wew
winged portal
wait wait wait
sterile parrot
pretty smart
winged portal
whats discord.com/new
sterile parrot
but could backfire
fringe sigil
new
muted fern
new site
winged portal
what is it for omg
fringe sigil
discord
muted fern
discord
pure bane
Nah it won’t tho
pure bane
We have an ir scanner at the door
winged portal
so its like a new landing page?
fringe sigil
📎
pure bane
Takes your temp
fringe sigil
Oh nice
muted fern
hawt
pure bane
If u have a fever they won’t even let you in
fringe sigil
Does it give it back?
mellow zinc
thats nice
sterile parrot
yeah but it can take up to 2 weeks for symptoms to show
ebon shadow
Cube you are a genius
muted fern
ty
pure bane
I mean it is what it is... I don’t have to interact with anyone at work anyways since I drive a forklift
pure bane
They have to keep 6 feet from my truck
ebon shadow
If someone tries to talk to you spear them
fringe sigil
forklifts
ebon shadow
I would pay for that footage
lofty void
You don’t have to have a fever to be sick, though
fringe sigil
dangerous things
muted fern
forklift go brr brr
lofty void
Idk, to me it just sounds like the company is asking it’s employees to ignore any symtoms they may have and just stick with it
Which, in a time like this seems 👎
pure bane
Yeah well as long as auto manufacturers are producing cars my work will be brr Brr
lofty void
Speaking of work. Deluxemenus 1.16 when? 👀
mellow zinc
i mean, if people are actually sick, i hope they wouldnt go in, for the safety of their peers and theirselves, just over some extra money
long summit
Hey @ebon storm do you have one armorstand per pixel?
ebon storm
1 armor stand per row
pure bane
Dm 1.16 as soon as glare finishes up a few little things
long summit
Ah yeah that makes more sense, nice
long summit
Imma try combining mine with yours and have the armorstands play a video 👀
ebon storm
im already working on an animated one lol
long summit
oh
mellow zinc
😮
long summit
I'll do the chat one then xD
mellow zinc
do onlyfans vids pls, not yt
ebon storm
mine's slow af
pure bane
I think we’re aiming to have dm and papi updated by Friday
long summit
Maybe, well see ;p
mellow zinc
awesome
long summit
👀
ebon shadow
Damn, a DM update! Is this because you no longer have to fret about EZBlocks?
pure bane
I have a few other updates done but I just been too lazy to get on spigot
ebon shadow
Makes more sense
boreal escarp
@pure bane look at my papi pr 😢 it should fix the problem with js expansion data not being saved on shutdown
pure bane
Lol glare updates it
woven prairie
Should add me to your plugin repos and I'll update them for you
boreal escarp
change the version != update xd
pure bane
I didn’t touch dm yet but he already has that stuff done for the most part
lofty void
I think we’re aiming to have dm and papi updated by Friday
@pure bane dope!
Reminder that i had some bug reports posted, but yeah, update first
mellow zinc
@ebon shadow ezblocks hasnt been updated in like 5 years 😂😂
muted fern
The best I can do is bump the version number
ebon shadow
@mellow zinc actually the GH repo is updated pretty frequently
lofty void
You guys are crazy with these hex colors
fringe sigil
MORE colour!
lofty void
😋
muted fern
what a nerd
fringe sigil
☹️
muted fern
Should get a better username
mellow zinc
should get a better logo
muted fern
||should get a better score||
pure bane
I actually have a diff one idk why it shows that old one
ebon shadow
🙂 hi
ebon shadow
lol
pure bane
muted fern
Oh cause that's better
fringe sigil
astranout
pure bane
Corona
mellow zinc
🤔
fringe sigil
wait
pure bane
Gotta wear a mask
fringe sigil
hazmat suit
mellow zinc
stay protected kids
muted fern
Barry's Avatar Generator when?
ebon shadow
muted fern
nailed it
wary willow
don't wear a mask when you drink it
ebon shadow
I don't have nitro so my workaround is downloading peoples emojis and uploading them to discord as a picture
wary willow
well I'm sorry for you if you drink with a mask on your face xD
I don't have nitro so my workaround is downloading peoples emojis and uploading them to discord as a picture
@ebon shadow :))))))
ebon shadow
it works tho
muted fern
i'll just disable uploads
mellow zinc
nitro boost instead 😉
muted fern
ez
mellow zinc
need that xp
ebon shadow
Kaliber I've already said numerous times, I'll nitro boost if cube gifts me nitro for some reason
muted fern
technically speaking you'd probs get xp for links rather then uploading directly
pure bane
So some dude from a hosting company just dm me. Let’s bet on what he wants
ebon shadow
Ok time to start an image server cube thx
ebon shadow
damn
wary willow
So some dude from a hosting company just dm me. Let’s bet on what he wants
He want's your money
pure bane
I bet he wants some plugins
pure bane
Let’s see
mellow zinc
😮
wary willow
I bet he wants to host a party for you
pure bane
Lol he gets nothing
fringe sigil
I got a question for you guys
ebon shadow
Ok kids this is just a template/starter thingy I made but thoughts? https://katsumag.me/portfolio/
mellow zinc
fringe sigil
You know a color code cancels the &l (bold), would you prefer it stay on until you cancel it with &r?
mellow zinc
🤔🤔🤔🤔
fringe sigil
24 Data Ltd.
muted fern
clip clear ur notifications please
mellow zinc
704
ebon shadow
Boutta be 705 🙂
pure bane
Who cares just don’t look at it
mellow zinc
speaking of notifications, why did u remove me as a friend funnycube 😭😭😭
wary willow
just put the photo in paint and draw a line above it
wary willow
@mellow zinc because he didn't have room for 1 more so the only way to add me was to remove you
muted fern
f
ebon shadow
Don't abuse my kaliber 😦
pure bane
We should do a team project
muted fern
Have you not seen #cubes-pings
fringe sigil
Caliber
muted fern
what a team project
mellow zinc
😮
ebon shadow
Clip there's like 6 of us rewriting EZBlocks together, is that not already a team project
wary willow
xD
mellow zinc
kotlin 😏
muted fern
Let's start a marketplace /s
mellow zinc
LMAO
wary willow
lets make a new crypto currency
mellow zinc
i cant say song
pure bane
Where we all collectively make a plugin together. You can only commit 1 line of code and 5 others have to commit a new line before you can commit again
mellow zinc
🤔🤔
fringe sigil
Sonjoda pay
ebon shadow
KatKoin™️
muted fern
Where we all collectively make a plugin together. You can only commit 1 line of code and 5 others have to commit a new line before you can commit again
Oh no
pure bane
Clipcoin
mellow zinc
that would take quite the while, but very team based
fringe sigil
song
muted fern
ur code was shit
fringe sigil
Oh
pure bane
Lol
fringe sigil
I thought that word was banned
ebon shadow
Tempted to make a site so we can do Clip's idea
muted fern
ah yes
wary willow
I want to join. I know how to code 😦
pure bane
Maybe 1 line is not enough tho
ebon shadow
Ok, lets make it 2
mellow zinc
might make the cooldown js into an expansion too
ebon shadow
haha
muted fern
Bet have no end goal for the plugin/project
wary willow
do it do it do it !
muted fern
just let it turn into whatever it is
pure bane
Ya
ebon shadow
Ight this is actually tempting
fallow crow
lol
pure bane
Maybe a character limit per commit
pure bane
If you break the plugin and it doesn’t compile under your commit, you lose and can’t commit any more
sterile parrot
then how are you supposed to make a one line commit
sterile parrot
without making literal shit code
ebon shadow
Theres actually a tutorial on how to host a Git repo on GitWeb (your own version of GH, kinda), we could just limit the commit to like not have \n's in it or smth
pure bane
We’re past the 1 line
ebon shadow
Lemmo thats the point
pure bane
Tbh I think it would be fun
ebon shadow
We know Skoppy
wary willow
did anyone even pay attention to the fact that after 2 weeks of mostly no admins on there are 4 of them online rn?
ebon shadow
Niall didn't you abandon your lib?
mellow zinc
Like niall lib 😦
@fringe sigil funding ran over 😦
muted fern
"HelpChat Community Code Experiment v1"
fringe sigil
@fringe sigil funding ran over 😦
@mellow zinc ☹️
muted fern
HCCCE
pure bane
We would have to at least go with a theme
fringe sigil
dont tag me
ebon shadow
Ok ima set up this GitWeb thing @lament ember u wanna get in on this and help me?
muted fern
"A minecraft plugin"
lament ember
GitWeb?
sterile parrot
gittea better
ebon shadow
I'll dm u 1 sec
pure bane
The plugin has to have a purpose
muted fern
to exist
fringe sigil
enterprise clear chat?
ebon shadow
ok we're (idk if Bardy's in yet) gonna try set this up
muted fern
We'd probs do it inside the helpchat org
fringe sigil
ebon shadow
I was thinking I use a git repo on my VPS and run GitWeb on it for yall to access, then limit commits
pure bane
So what’s the limit on the commit. Only allow x amount of changes per commit sound good
ebon shadow
Ok I need some concrete rules kids
mellow zinc
~50 characters
ebon shadow
I'll brb, ping me in the message with those ^
pure bane
Rules
50 to 100 chars per commit
Can only push a new commit after 3 new commits have been pushed
If your commit breaks the plugin and it no longer compiles, you are out
No useless additions such as printing a message in console
lament ember
x amount of changes per commit? what?
muted fern
characters
lament ember
x amount of characters per commit is easy
just need a git server
which I can set up if you guys need
also yeah why not I'm in
fringe sigil
Enough to fit some enterprise logic
lament ember
usually I end up pushing small changes like that as full commits anyway lol
when I fuck something up and have to bodge in a fix
also, all well and good us making plugins, but I have no idea where to start with this lol
can the plugin literally do anything?
pure bane
Yes
lament ember
also, what about all the stuff IJ sets up for you initially? gotta delete all of it?
pure bane
As long as it “does something”
mellow zinc
ima add a /dadi command 😏
pure bane
No we wil use the Minecraft dev plugin to create a base project and go from there
lament ember
so the initial commit with all the build files doesn't count
pure bane
Nah
lament ember
okay
mellow zinc
gradle
pure bane
Ok
mellow zinc
😁
lament ember
oh we all working on the same thing?
mellow zinc
helpchat plugin
pure bane
K
lament ember
also can we revert and force push if we fuck something up or does that count as out lol
if the answer is no then I'm fucked haha
mellow zinc
true
pure bane
Instead of time how about you have to wait x commits
mellow zinc
everyone fails = plugin dead 😔
lament ember
if you fuck up you gotta wait 5 commits to commit again? or 10 commits maybe?
nothing stupidly ridiculous lol
mellow zinc
a cooldown instead of waiting for others to commit?
lament ember
yeah but you have no idea how many people are actually gonna commit lol
pure bane
I’m sure enough will to keep it going
lament ember
I'd be surprised if you got 10 collaborators actively committing at the same time
mellow zinc
+not everyone will be as active as each other
im making a /dadi command and thats it
muted fern
everything should count
velvet crescent
What's going on
lament ember
https://img.bardy.me/intellij-meme.png this @hidden gyro
mellow zinc
intellij is 1000000x better in every aspect
muted fern
I want the readme to take 20 commits
pure bane
What group and artifact I’d
lament ember
like someone does x, another person does y, another person z
pure bane
at.helpch
lament ember
please make a gradle project as well lol
lament ember
it'll help massively with keeping the chars down, especially in build commits
mellow zinc
altho, maven would be more of a challenge haha
velvet crescent
What y'all working on
mellow zinc
but f maven
eternal apex
wew, just snagged https://github.com/HelpChat (used to be help-chat)
mellow zinc
oh nice pig!
velvet crescent
Nice
lament ember
nice
velvet crescent
I should probably snatch Frosty
lament ember
also guessing indents and line breaks count or nah? sounds a bit ridiculous
frosty is taken @velvet crescent
velvet crescent
Active user?
lament ember
no idea
mellow zinc
check kaliber for me
pure bane
Also no rules on what you change
lament ember
also guessing indents and line breaks count or nah? sounds a bit ridiculous
what about this clip
velvet crescent
If it's not active then I can request a change
pure bane
U can do whatever with your 100 chars aside from change the main package name or main class name
velvet crescent
Seems to be inactive
lament ember
do indents and line breaks count?
velvet crescent
Wait clip what you on about?
lament ember
if so code ugliness level's gonna have to go up to 11/10
mellow zinc
do line breaks count as chars already?
lament ember
yeah ofc they do
lament ember
in a character array it's stored as the character \n
sterile parrot
I said gitea is better than gitweb
lament ember
just setup your own git server
lament ember
no limits
pure bane
Should probably make a channel for this so we can get a web hook
eternal apex
wtf
mellow zinc
lol
eternal apex
idk how I misread that lemmo
sharp sky
sterile parrot
you even made me question myself
eternal apex
I just installed gitea on my nuc a couple of days ago, after wanting to for ages
doubt i'll ever use it, but at least it's there
maybe i'll setup some sort of push to gitea, gitea pushes to gh sort of thing
lament ember
is gitea self-hosted?
eternal apex
yeah
lament ember
if so I heard gitolite is really good as well
mellow zinc
too many gits
lament ember
ebon shadow
So what we going for kids
fringe sigil
Piggy
velvet crescent
Gitno
lament ember
gitolite is mostly CLI though
fringe sigil
I got RPF question
fringe sigil
Do you do anything with Logger
sterile parrot
Fun fact: git was made by the creator of Linux
lament ember
I knew that
eternal apex
no, I don't actually use white theme, just turned darkreader off so you guys could see the real theme
lament ember
Linus Torvalds
mellow zinc
Rules
50 to 100 chars per commit
Can only push a new commit after 3 new commits have been pushed
If your commit breaks the plugin and it no longer compiles, you are out
No useless additions such as printing a message in console
@ebon shadow
eternal apex
Do you do anything with Logger
@fringe sigil ye, slf4j tho
sterile parrot
smh
velvet crescent
I still don't know what this is about, can you elaborate Kali
fringe sigil
I see
lament ember
use logback-classic as an impl
fringe sigil
I can't change the impl
eternal apex
that is indeed what I use
ebon shadow
Ok so have we decided on a Git server? GitWeb, GitTe or whatever its called or what?
lament ember
logback > log4j imo
eternal apex
or just github?
pure bane
eternal apex
why do you need your own server
ebon shadow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lament ember
yeah GitHub is unlimited for public projects
eternal apex
yeah logback is probably the nicest impl bardy
ebon shadow
Ok so Clip how are we doing this?
lament ember
u stupid @sterile parrot
mellow zinc
wheres the kotlin source 🙁
ebon shadow
^
lament ember
old school out here writing his logs down on a piece of paper
lament ember
okay who wants to go first?
mellow zinc
do i have to add it as part as my characters in build.gradle 🙁
ebon shadow
I'll do the readme I guess
fringe sigil
What even is the plugin?
eternal apex
clearchat
fringe sigil
clear hcat?
sterile parrot
I'm just gonna leave this shit show
fringe sigil
LOL
ebon shadow
Are we just gonna fork it and PR or how we doin it?
sterile parrot
👋
mellow zinc
yea think so
pure bane
ya that way we can verify the commit meets the char length rule
lament ember
do we all get added to the project or we gotta do the old fork -> commit & push -> PR
velvet crescent
Second one probs
eternal apex
someone make a github bot to enforce the rules
velvet crescent
Still clueless as to what y'all cooking up in here
muted fern
erh how hard is making a github bot
eternal apex
idk
velvet crescent
Easy
lament ember
github bot can't be hard
mellow zinc
github bot must be made within the rules
eternal apex
might not even be viable, probably requires some sort of verification
fringe sigil
😦
velvet crescent
Does using dependencies count?
mellow zinc
yes
lament ember
I think github will probably be able to give you the commit content raw from its API if it's public, which it is
I'll do some googling
velvet crescent
Cause then you can just make a seperate project and just use that to bypass limits <:)
pure bane
lol
velvet crescent
Big broin
ebon shadow
Created a PR kids
eternal apex
yo
lament ember
clip do it lol
ebon shadow
Should be about 99 chars
eternal apex
under any circumstances
eternal apex
well if it's broken and doesn't work, it wouldn't have gotten accepted
ebon shadow
Come on bois step it up
eternal apex
idea is, instead of simply removing their code and replacing it with urs
u gotta build around it
pure bane
so were all basically making our own plugin in a plugin
ebon shadow
Still like half the readme still needs doing
pure bane
lol
eternal apex
even if your building around it is just disabling their feature, at runtime
fringe sigil
@eternal apex How would you recommend I provide an API through Guice?
eternal apex
an api to what
pure bane
haha we need to get some concrete rules down
eternal apex
what would use this api
muted fern
Petition to make the rules in the readme
mellow zinc
i probably wont be able to do anything anytime soon anyway, im moving house this friday so ive gotta pack shit up
eternal apex
plugins of your project?
pure bane
yes
fringe sigil
Currently I bind a interface and register it in services manager
KiteBoard api
so any plugins
velvet crescent
Petition for cube to be the supervisor
pure bane
ok so before we actually begin
mellow zinc
@light scaffold u can catch up on xp during my downtime 😔
pure bane
were going to allow this one commit to add all the rules to the readme
lament ember
who's project lead?
eternal apex
I wouldn't recommend using guice to prove api instances to external sources
pure bane
we all are
fallow crow
I should hope whatever you are doing depends on Fuck1.8
lament ember
lol
eternal apex
guice for apis only works for things like plugins, e.g. papi expansions
velvet crescent
Aj
ebon shadow
Nah Clip, let even the readme be a clusterfuck
velvet crescent
Be gone
fallow crow
no
fringe sigil
I thought so
fallow crow
Theres no reason to not use my plugin
mellow zinc
aj 🙄
fringe sigil
Also the conversion to Guice went pretty well
Everythings converted
I had 1 circular dependency and after resolving that it worked fine
lament ember
wait we're doing DI in this?
fringe sigil
🙄
lament ember
yeah true
literally you'd have to commit the class init, then add the constructor, then add the variable, then add the @Inject pretty much
lament ember
field injection? I use Kotlin, I'm used to constructor autowiring lol
mellow zinc
kekw
eternal apex
spring's autowire might not even work on fields
that's what you get when you don't use a proper di library like guice
😉
fringe sigil
Because constructor's make way more sense
lament ember
^^^^
pure bane
alright
rules:
1: Commits must be no more than 100 chars
2: You can not modify any code you did not push
3: You can only commit after 3 other commits have been pushed by other people
4: Don't commit plugin breaking code
5: No useless commits such as printing a message to console etc
eternal apex
well, that is most certainly not the case with guice
pure bane
what else
eternal apex
yes
lament ember
yep
pure bane
if it doesnt break the plugin yes
mellow zinc
make a new channel for the commits and stuff then pin that message @pure bane
eternal apex
clip, change 4 to "Don't commit plugin breaking code"
lament ember
this is going to be a long day
velvet crescent
Also no useless commits
eternal apex
oh also
lament ember
if your code breaks the project can you just not have your PR accepted, would make our lives a bit easier
velvet crescent
Should probably write down the order of commits
eternal apex
So I can commit stuff and it can't be removed?
@fringe sigil just to be clear, you can modify your own code, just not others
muted fern
eternal apex
cube using fancy icons even though markdown exists
muted fern
its just in notepad atm
lament ember
cube making commits that are more than 100 chars smh
pure bane
you must comment your code with your name so we know who authored everything (comments shouldnt be counted towards the char limit)
eternal apex
yeah cube not cool dude
lament ember
actually wasn't the README commit already more than a hundred chars?
velvet crescent
Just like paper does it
pure bane
cuz im not going through the commit history
mellow zinc
comments count... ouch.
velvet crescent
Start and stop
lament ember
and clip decided to accept the PR smh
eternal apex
clip, amendment to that statement
that authoring comment shouldn't be counted
any other comments will be counted
pure bane
ok ya
velvet crescent
Piggy
muted fern
comments should count for the lols
lament ember
okay so:
/**
* @author Callum Seabrook
*/
```doesn't countBoutta throw you on the fucking grill
pure bane
ya bom that wont count
muted fern
Might as well make everything count otherwise it just becomes complicated
lament ember
okay good
pure bane
but any other comments will
lament ember
does whitespace and indentation count as well?
pure bane
eh im really not trying to read commit history to see who pushed what
velvet crescent
This would make more sense btw
// Frosty - Start
// Frosty - Finish
So you know from where to where
lament ember
the @author tag will resolve to proper javadocs though
mellow zinc
or just have the start frosty
velvet crescent
Or that
mellow zinc
as then the next person would have start, making the finish nit needed
muted fern
I say either all comments count or no comments count
lament ember
no comments count I vote
velvet crescent
No comments count - unless the comment is code
pure bane
ya no comments count
lament ember
if it's code just remove the commented code
pure bane
also no code in the comments
fringe sigil
Where the repo at
muted fern
"Comments don't count towards the limit, but comments mustn't have code in them"
lament ember
velvet crescent
What's the goal of the plugin?
muted fern
to work
fringe sigil
Uh
lament ember
yeah that works cube
pure bane
Yeah we’re about to fuck my test server up with this
fringe sigil
isnt it meant to be at.helpch?
mellow zinc
wheres the discord bot notifications 🙁
fringe sigil
not helpch
lament ember
1.16.1 Paper API 😎
muted fern
dw i added • No malicious code, duh.
velvet crescent
No but seriously, what's the goal for the plugin
muted fern
whatever you want
velvet crescent
Just random methods which do shit or what?
pure bane
Make the best plugin we can together
fringe sigil
I will make a services manager
light scaffold
apply plugin smh
fringe sigil
IObjectProviderFactoryResolver
lament ember
also every time someone authors for the first time can we add our names to the authors tag in the plugin.yml?
actually that would kinda get ridiculous lol
muted fern
just make the plugin authors HelpChat Community or something
magic summit
Ohhh.... An event soon?™️
pure bane
I think it will be fun
lament ember
yeah it counts for boilerplate
mellow zinc
everything counts except comments
muted fern
if its not a comment it counts
lament ember
this is why we should've used Kotlin smh
eternal apex
whitespace doesn't count
lament ember
means we can get more code in one commit
velvet crescent
Fuck off with kotlin
mellow zinc
well i mean we still can
lament ember
true
pure bane
Ya no counting whitespaces
mellow zinc
shall i add it to build.gradle 🤔
eternal apex
it's 100 chars
lament ember
but if it's already in Java we just shouldn't mix the two in the same project imo @mellow zinc
eternal apex
count it by hand
muted fern
no
eternal apex
you'd have to anyway, due to the whitespace restriction
mellow zinc
less characters for us if u ask me bardy 😎
lament ember
ikr @mellow zinc
velvet crescent
Make ur own
muted fern
inb4 we make our own
velvet crescent
Abiding by the rules
mellow zinc
also idk java, so even if i get IJ to convert it, itll prob break half the shit 🙃
velvet crescent
Learn
mellow zinc
NO
lament ember
can IJ even convert from Kotlin to Java?
mellow zinc
whyd i learn java when i can use kotlin smh my head
velvet crescent
Doubt it
fringe sigil
Lol
mellow zinc
😮
muted fern
fringe sigil
I dont like that one either
velvet crescent
Oh god, 5 commits to add the hex parser lmao
fringe sigil
Find one we can agree on please
lament ember
also you guys kinda gotta agree that Kotlin would've been the better choice here since it cuts out boilerplate meaning you can get more code in one commit, though Java is probably a better idea due to about 85% of the community not knowing Kotlin
muted fern
make one nial
lament ember
not complaining just stating facts
velvet crescent
People can use other peoples code correct?
pure bane
so if you are working on something, as long as the method isnt called or the class isnt initialized thats not breaking
so u can slowly work on something big
velvet crescent
Yea that makes sense
mellow zinc
can we build the jar to test it beforw committing? or would thay defeat the purpose
lament ember
@light scaffold you should join us as well if you're not busy 🙂
mellow zinc
as long as its in syntax, ofc
light scaffold
perhaps
lament ember
can we build the jar to test it beforw committing? or would thay defeat the purpose
yeah sounds like a good idea
velvet crescent
Kali, I think that should be allowed
Since you'd get fucked if you're not careful
lament ember
what kind of an idiot wouldn't build and test their program before committing it
pure bane
so if you are working on something, as long as the method isnt called or the class isnt initialized thats not breaking
mellow zinc
well.....
pure bane
add that to the rules cube
light scaffold
I'll use all my commits for making unit tests
eternal apex
io.write("Enter your code:")
code = io.read()
i = 0
for c in code:gmatch"." do
if c ~= " " then
i = i + 1
end
end
print(i)```Clip, what about the basics of it, the command system, config system etc?
lament ember
though gl keeping that under 100 chars
eternal apex
there's ur char counter kids
light scaffold
shouldn't be that hard
pure bane
its whatever
fringe sigil
easy
pure bane
we have to make the commands and config via the rules
lament ember
also please no stupid names or abnormal shit like methods that look obfuscated or some crap that you wouldn't otherwise do if this was a normal project
velvet crescent
Can comments contain instructions on the progress?
pure bane
Sure they don’t count
light scaffold
class Test {
@Test void test()
{
assertEquals(something,other)
}
}
``` ez unit test in 62 charactersLike so people don't just start fucking up things
pure bane
They can’t fuck up anything u do
lament ember
@light scaffold spaces and indentation missing smh
pure bane
They can’t modify your code
light scaffold
gotta compress stuff @lament ember
pure bane
Now we have to specify
velvet crescent
Well they can make it harder if they modify an in progress class
pure bane
They can use methods you made right
eternal apex
brister whitespace doesn't count
light scaffold
ah
velvet crescent
Yes clip
light scaffold
excellent
lament ember
yeah seems legit
muted fern
We want people using other peoples code
eternal apex
you can't modify it at compilation* what happens at runtime is dynamic
muted fern
team work makes the dreamwork
lament ember
also as I said can we make there no bullshit code that looks like it's fucking obfuscated or some crap please
velvet crescent
Is calling the method, and then modifying the output on the call allowed?
eternal apex
yes
pure bane
Ya it has to be somewhat readable
lament ember
oh thank god lol