btw where you want me to make this?
#off-topic
velvet crescent
eternal apex
anywhere frosty
so long I can understand it
I can give you access to the repo if you're willing to nicely format it into an issue
velvet crescent
I'll just make a plugin with some commands and I'll just give you access to the repo so you can copy paste them in, and fix/improve any code/styling
boreal escarp
What does the papi ecloud placeholders command use?
eternal apex
cached data from the ecloud
boreal escarp
Right.
What if instead of doing that you add a method on the expansions class that will be used instead? Maybe that will fix the command, idk
eternal apex
ah so are you talking about trying to avoid outdated data?
boreal escarp
As I have said the cmd is broken atm and I think thats because some placeholders require extra arguments which arent provided
eternal apex
I don't see how a specific expansion could break the list command. It just displays metadata?
eternal apex
I don't know off the top of my head
oh are you talking about a command that lists all the placeholders in an expansion?
velvet crescent
Jesus this new format is weird
eternal apex
ok frosty, perhaps I should have been a bit more strict on the requirements
I don't want you to waste your time
so let's keep it to non ugly colours
boreal escarp
My bad, I was talking about that but using wrong words 
I think the command is /papi placeholders (expansion) which also try to parse them
velvet crescent
kek, blue ish theme gucci?
eternal apex
which blue?
velvet crescent
b and 9
boreal escarp
Aqua
eternal apex
perfect
velvet crescent
😉
eternal apex
just mix it with something else
don't make the entire thing blue
&7/&8 usually work with the ligher colours
velvet crescent
Yea ik
eternal apex
yeah anyway gaby, all data will be fetched from the ecloud now
regal juniper
Alrighty I can try and start on the commands. I'll start with the ones that are already in the plugin although we'll probably refractor some and change how they work etc but I'll try to do some empty layouts.
eternal apex
and we're removing the chance of human error, by simply removing all input fields on the expansion upload page
except for the jar upload
metadata will then be inferred from the expansion itself
for example, version, authors, dependencies, placeholders, etc
fallow crow
I can make a GUI of ecloud list 🤷
eternal apex
no gui's lol
velvet crescent
thien that would be horrendous
eternal apex
you're welcome to make a third party plugin
boreal escarp
O
regal juniper
EveRytHing iS beTteR whEn thEreS guIs
fallow crow
👀
eternal apex
well in the case of expansion uploads, we're removing all components of the gui except the jar upload
somehow
will figure it out later
regal juniper
Do you want /papi to be kinda like it is currently or should we just go full in with /papi and show commands.
eternal apex
ask frosty, he's the ui dude now
lone ruin
guys what does autosell include?
velvet crescent
Sec Glare
boreal escarp
&8• &b/papi help &7- &fdescription here```Jesus Gaby
fallow crow
@lone ruin what u mean
velvet crescent
Imagine using -
eternal apex
current ui I implemented uses -
regal juniper
I don't care really on the colors right now
boreal escarp
Can someone test that in game pls?
eternal apex
here's the format I made for the list command. it ended up looking like shit though
list:
header: "&7-------- &bPlaceholderAPI &7--------"
format:
line: "&suggest_command=</papi ecloud download %1$s>&show_text=<&b%1$s &7by &e%3$s&7, latest version: &b%4$s>%5$s%1$s &8- &7%2$s"
installed: "&a"
outdated: "&6"
uninstalled: "&b"
footer: "&7------------------------------"
/papi should show all the available commands should it not?
eternal apex
I honestly don't mind
boreal escarp
Will messages be configurable or what is that for pig?
eternal apex
all messages will be configurable
regal juniper
Do you want something fancy like what I have for VP?
eternal apex
I don't know what you have for vp, so sure
velvet crescent
ie.
PlaceholderAPI ♠ {version}
Commands:
» Command
» Command
Time for {server name}PlaceholderAPI
velvet crescent
And then json for description and permission?
regal juniper
velvet crescent
like
List all installed expansions
permission.permission
%#$s is that the placeholder format?
eternal apex
yea
you can also use %s as an incremental placeholder
%#$s accesses the specific placeholder index
it's ugly, but it's also a lang file
boreal escarp
o
lone ruin
@fallow crow like what features does it have
does it like include autosmelt or something
eternal apex
it uses String.format gaby
boreal escarp
Ughly is the right word, yes
eternal apex
@regal juniper yes
if you use the list command rn, you can see it's already sorta like that
boreal escarp
What happens if you try to access an index that doesnt exist?
velvet crescent
test server down, can't see it <o/
eternal apex
@velvet crescent that looks good, not sure about the spade symbol tho
velvet crescent
Yea just a random one rn kek, probably gonna use an arrow or something
eternal apex
@boreal escarp error
eternal apex
what's js's?
eternal apex
oh right
I actually looked into implementing that via fancy reflection and some stack trace scanning
seemed a tad impossible
still on my todo list regardless
velvet crescent
kek
regal juniper
Do you have something in framework for json stuff or can I just use Text?
boreal escarp
^
eternal apex
text as in text component?
boreal escarp
Can you make it a separated project so we can use it too?
regal juniper
boreal escarp
here's the format I made for the list command. it ended up looking like shit though
list: header: "&7-------- &bPlaceholderAPI &7--------" format: line: "&suggest_command=</papi ecloud download %1$s>&show_text=<&b%1$s &7by &e%3$s&7, latest version: &b%4$s>%5$s%1$s &8- &7%2$s" installed: "&a" outdated: "&6" uninstalled: "&b" footer: "&7------------------------------"
eternal apex
You should be able to use text, there's an api in framework though
it's the one gaby just quoted
with the & codes
regal juniper
How in-depth is it?
velvet crescent
Didn't you say you were gonna remove that Piggy :p
eternal apex
I'm not 100% sure on what I'm gonna do yet
boreal escarp
P1g
eternal apex
if someone complains about it in whatever beta testing we do I'll change it
boreal escarp
Will you make that lib public?
boreal escarp
Where
regal juniper
I'll try it, if I have issues, I'll use text. Can always modify later.
eternal apex
boreal escarp
Can you copy text to clipboard with text @regal juniper?
boreal escarp
Theres smth like ClickEvent.Action.COPY or so
I mean, without having to download your big ass lib xd p1g
boreal escarp
or you can be a nice person and turn it into a different project/lib
eternal apex
glare I lied sorry, it doesn't implement all of the json chat features
regal juniper
Alright I'll just use text for now
eternal apex
it has all colors & styles, and these hover/click events
boreal escarp
I know but would be nice to not have to do it manually all the time, anyways.
eternal apex
it implements all the important ones glare
the remaining click events are either deprecated, or can't be used in chat
and frankly I don't know what the remaining hover events are for
boreal escarp
eternal apex
with kyori text, try converting it to json & sending it as a raw message
still through the User interface
the Player one doesn't have a send message method yet
regal juniper
Kyori has its own method to send it to a player
somber pulsar
@maiden mulch that’s not sus why you hide it, you running scam?
eternal apex
yes but kyori isn't designed to work with my interfaces
and if you get the raw player kyori can work with, it becomes platform dependent
regal juniper
Ahh
eternal apex
@boreal escarp that copy stuff uses some crazy witchcraft, it's not documented on wiki.vg
regal juniper
So what do you want me to do? Just try to use what you have?
eternal apex
I don't mind. If you use kyori, I'll just convert it later. If you use kyori though, to make it work with rpf, you'll just need to convert your text object to json and send it as a raw message
I think it's MinecraftUser#sendRawMessage
eternal apex
👍
boreal escarp
So cant be done, pig?
eternal apex
well evidently it can be done, I just don't know how
boreal escarp
Isnt it just the same as the others?
eternal apex
it's not mentioned on here https://wiki.vg/Chat so no
boreal escarp
It say that it use the event value
boreal escarp
Dont leave me alone @eternal apex
eternal apex
?
boreal escarp
Bts?
eternal apex
behind the scenes
boreal escarp
Ah lol
velvet crescent
@eternal apex
commands:
papi:
authors:
seperator: ", "
seperatorColor: "&8"
authorColor: "&7"
header:
- "&bPlaceholder&f&lAPI &8• &7{version}"
- " &9Authors&8: &7{authors}"
- ""
- " &9Commands&8:"
commandList:
- " &8» &f{command}"
footer:
- ""
- "&7&oHover to see more options."
customisable enough?
eternal apex
don't worry about the config, just do the ui
if you want to present it in a config form that's fine
velvet crescent
I mean yea gotta worry about the config atleast a bit, since I can just do 3 loops and it's gucci instead of manually
the config is to assist me :p
eternal apex
aight
regal juniper
Ugh I hate this return true return false stuff
boreal escarp
eternal apex
it's the exact same logic as bukkit's
regal juniper
I know, and I don't use that, lol.
I'll deal with it tho.
So what am I making /papi show?
boreal escarp
you just return true to not show that ugly no permission message xd
eternal apex
didn't frosty answer that earlier?
regal juniper
Idk, I was in class.
boreal escarp
All commands or no perm message
regal juniper
regal juniper
@velvet crescent ELI5 what you want /papi to show.
boreal escarp
Wish I could help on papi3 maybe one day ..
velvet crescent
commands:
papi:
header:
- "&bPlaceholder&f&lAPI &8• &7{version}"
- " &9Authors&8:"
authors:
- " &8» &7{author}"
body:
- ""
- " &9Commands&8:"
commandList:
- " &8» &f{command}"
footer:
- ""
- "&7&oHover to see more options."
commandListJSON:
- "&b&l{commandName}"
- "&f{description}"
- ""
- "&7{usage}"
- "&8{permission}"
Lemme know if you need anything explained :p
Feel free to change anything if you want to make it easier
eternal apex
glare don't actually implement that as a config ^, just look at it as a format
regal juniper
Yeah I'm going to hardcode shit for now
Frosty, have you made an in-game example of this yet?
velvet crescent
working on it rn, struggling with properly splitting the json since I don't know if I can just apply it as list.toString or if I have to loop and split
Can't test cuz test server down till tommorrow ish tho
regal juniper
Damn
velvet crescent
Here, it's shit code but you'll get the idea kek https://paste.helpch.at/porapasoge.cs
boreal escarp
stream
velvet crescent
Was trying with stream for like 5min Gaby, but gave up
regal juniper
@eternal apex Do I need to do anything special to tell RPF that this command is the root one? Cause I assume when you have the supers on the commands, it's assuming it's /papi <command>
I need to make it know that this should happen on just /papi
eternal apex
just set the super to like "main" or something
and in options, def(true)
so
public Command() {
super("main");
options.root()
.def(true);
}```Dope.
boreal escarp
player.sendMessage(String.join("\n", header).replace("{version}", version)) won't this work?
regal juniper
Does it handle colors by default?
eternal apex
yeah user.sendMessage will do basic & codes
anything ChatColor.translateAlternate can do
boreal escarp
is that a custom thing or?
eternal apex
user.sendRawMessage will accept json, or my & code format
boreal escarp
ah
eternal apex
yes gaby
boreal escarp
your framework
velvet crescent
Does designing count as contributing 😏
eternal apex
yes
gaby, asking me to extract certain libs from my framework
you could just use my framework
ez fix
regal juniper
Piggy, do you have anything special in the common binding for getting server stuff? Like the authors from the plugin.yml
eternal apex
No sorry
velvet crescent
Glare, show me how it looks in game once you have this sorted so I know if the theme is good or not
regal juniper
I guess I could go look, but do you have anything that lets me loop through all the commands that are registered?
eternal apex
yes, 2 secs
@Inject private CommandHandlers commandHandlers;
commandHandlers.getCommands("minecraft");
regal juniper
It auto registers the commands, right?
eternal apex
yes
regal juniper
Dope
@velvet crescent
Doing old-school string replacement right now until I set it up as a lang stuff.
boreal escarp
why bold on "API"
velvet crescent
hmm,
&bPlaceholder&fAPI &8circle &f{version}
leave the commands and authors, just change the lists to &7 instead of &f
Gaby, I didn't think it would stand out that much
velvet crescent
Not sure if the b and 9 work together that well
regal juniper
boreal escarp
try 3 instead of b
and maybe remove the gray :?
btw glare, why dont you use the ess custom command thing or even deluxecommands for testing the messages?
regal juniper
Cause I'm dumb and don't know how to.
boreal escarp
use deluxecommands then
regal juniper
velvet crescent
I feel like the 9 should be change instead of b
eternal apex
yikes
velvet crescent
ffs annoyed cause can't test
eternal apex
never heard of hotswap glare?
eternal apex
default jvm should be able to handle strings
untold hearth
boreal escarp
Also, the > may be too much frosty, since it's way bigger than usually (normal text)
velvet crescent
&bPlaceholder&fAPI &8» &f{version}
&3Authors
&8• &7Glare
&3Commands
&8• &7ecloud list
&8• &7unload
&8• &7main
&7&oHover to see more options.
How bout this Gaby?
boreal escarp
sec
regal juniper
velvet crescent
Fix the spacing smh
regal juniper
velvet crescent
Only thing I'd change is the last line now imo
regal juniper
I really don't think we need to list all the damn authors tho, I mean idk how many people we have but if we're counting the smallest things as contributions, that list going to be way too long.
Might as well just set the author as HelpChat & Friends
velvet crescent
that's smart yea
eternal apex
I'd actually just move the author thing into a hover for PlaceholderAPI title
boreal escarp
^
eternal apex
and still make it helpchat & friends
regal juniper
Alrighty, I can do that.
velvet crescent
don't cuck the capitalization tho :p
regal juniper
So for the time being piggy, how do I get the version of the plugin? Just inject the main class in?
boreal escarp
ok deluxecommands is bs
velvet crescent
oof Gaby
regal juniper
And also how am I supposed to send this json thing to them again?
eternal apex
try user.sendRawMessage
eternal apex
wym?
velvet crescent
Aren't you using the lib papi uses Piggy?
eternal apex
with your kyori text object, convert it to json with gson
regal juniper
Oh I was trying to use the text in your framework.
eternal apex
oh
regal juniper
I'll use TExt
eternal apex
if you want to do that, you gotta use the & code stuff
regal juniper
Yikes
eternal apex
yeah sorry, I'll add support for kyori too in the future
regal juniper
Is compileOnly set to actually compile into the jar for your gradle setup?
regal juniper
common it is
eternal apex
common is included in each of the bindings
regal juniper
Dope
velvet crescent
What's the current expansion list look like? (/papi list)
eternal apex
header: "&7-------- &bPlaceholderAPI &7--------"
format:
line: "&suggest_command=</papi ecloud download %1$s>&show_text=<&b%1$s &7by &e%3$s&7, latest version: &b%4$s>%5$s%1$s &8- &7%2$s"
installed: "&a"
outdated: "&6"
uninstalled: "&b"
footer: "&7------------------------------"
in game ,-,
eternal apex
2 secs
can't check sorry, don't have 1.15.2 installed, and internet is too slow to download it atm
velvet crescent
no worries, @boreal escarp Can ya whitelist me on your server for 10min 😉
or is yours down too kek
boreal escarp
localhost
regal juniper
That's hot. @eternal apex
velvet crescent
oof
regal juniper
Text will serialize it to a string. Idk if there's an inbetween of component and string.
I also haven't figured out how to first convert it to handle color codes and then to gson.
private void showMenu(MinecraftUser user) {
TextComponent menu = TextComponent
.of("&bPlaceholder&fAPI &8» &f{version}")
.hoverEvent(HoverEvent.showText(TextComponent.of("&3Author: &7HelpChat & Friends")))
.append(TextComponent.newline())
.append(TextComponent.of(" &3Commands"));
commandHandlers.getCommands("minecraft").forEach(command -> {
menu.append(TextComponent.of(" &8• &7{command}".replace("{command}", command.getCommand())));
menu.append(TextComponent.newline());
});
menu.append(TextComponent.of("&7&oHover to see more options."));
String json = GsonComponentSerializer.INSTANCE.serialize(menu);
user.sendRawMessage(json);
}```
magic summit
I still try to make this json lib....
eternal apex
damn ok
temp solution, follow my instructions exactly
make a new package, me.piggypiglet.framework.minecraft.user
inside, a class called MinecraftUser
regal juniper
Alright
toxic vapor
.
eternal apex
.
regal juniper
Getting somewhere.
toxic vapor
Am I supposed to be given a role for autosell support once Ive linked my account?
regal juniper
I just asked in their discord is there's a way I can first run it through the color and then into json.
velvet crescent
When did you purchase it Slipest
toxic vapor
Like ~30m ago
magic summit
I assume you're partially done with a platform independant user system?
toxic vapor
Linked my acc 5m ago
velvet crescent
run =spigot check
velvet crescent
Give it a few more min, it takes a bit to update
regal juniper
If it was within the last 30 minutes, the APIs take some time.
toxic vapor
alright
eternal apex
@magic summit functional, but not done.
magic summit
Cool
eternal apex
user api in my framework isn't specifically for minecraft though, unlike Player for example
magic summit
I should try finding a way for my JSON thing to work...
toxic vapor
are you able to help me with an error with autosell or do you have to wait for me to get the role
eternal apex
User is used for any type of user, for example a person interacting with the program on the cli
@regal juniper just check how their player util works
velvet crescent
Slipest give it like 15 more min
toxic vapor
kk
elfin minnow
boreal escarp
🤣
fluid gorge
Or can show me how to fix
regal juniper
@eternal apex
eternal apex
I can convert that to rpf format if u want to see what it'll look like with colour too
regal juniper
Alrighty. Apparently I'm dumb and I should be using json text color formatting but honestly if we can rig it to work with colors in RPF, that'd be amazing.
It's also pretty messy but it's just a draft. Will definitely be cleaned up.
Do you want me to push this to another branch?
eternal apex
yep
eternal apex
header:
&show_text=<&3Author: &7HelpChat & Friends>&bPlaceholder&fAPI &8>> &f{version}\n```
command lines:
&8• &show_text=<&b&l{command}\n&f{description}\n\n&7{usage}>&7{command}
footer:
&7&oHover to see more options.```
try that
make sure to uncomment the stuff in MinecraftUser
velvet crescent
Glare dont forget to include the permission if it has one
regal juniper
Will add that later, it was throwing erorrs and I didnt feel like putting perms on them all
I'll do that later Piggy, getting tired. We're off to a good start 😄
velvet crescent
ah okay
What if that was the page I was looking for 
@boreal escarp 
list:
- "&bPlaceholder&fAPI &8• &fExpansions"
- " &3Installed&8: &a♦"
- " &3Outdated&8: &c♦"
- " &3Uninstalled&8: &7♦"
- ""
- " &8• &<color>{expansion}"
- ""
what is that for
velvet crescent
/papi list
boreal escarp
and the bottom line?
velvet crescent
the expansions, but listed not just one line
boreal escarp
@eternal apex can we show multiple expansions per page and use the worldguard flags format? (&cExpansion, &7Expansion, &cExpansion...)
velvet crescent
Wouldn't that look odd tho? Since it would be random lengths
velvet crescent
so like listing them like plugins
velvet crescent
3*
boreal escarp
I thought about doing the thing thing they are doing to be easier to read them, but yea, papi already have multiple colors and that would be odd
velvet crescent
list:
- "&bPlaceholder&fAPI &8• &fExpansions"
- " &3Installed&8: &a♦"
- " &3Outdated&8: &c♦"
- " &3Uninstalled&8: &7♦"
- ""
- " &8• &7Expansion"
- " &<color>{expansion}&8, &<color>{expansion}"
- ""
Then keep the current colors (maybe replace 6 with e) but change the page format
though the header (first 4 lines) should be shown only on the first page
velvet crescent
Yea
boreal escarp
list:
header:
- "&bPlaceholder&fAPI &8• &fExpansions"
- " &3Installed&8: &a♦"
- " &3Outdated&8: &e♦"
- " &3Disabled&8: &c♦"
- ""
- " &8• &7Expansion"
list:
installed: '&a'
outdated: '&e'
disabled: '&c'
splitter: '&8, '```perhaps rename Uninstalled to Disabled if the expansions will still be in but not loaded
velvet crescent
Glare is hardcoding it rn, so don't worry about config side
boreal escarp
ik
velvet crescent
also status instead of list 😉
boreal escarp
the 2nd list is for actual list
lone ruin
can someone esend me link for autosel
velvet crescent
=pl autosell
honest thistleBOT
lone ruin
ty
fallow crow
fallow crow
Help my life pls :(
naive agate
anyone know how to appraise domains?
fallow crow
Wtf is that #673059415552688128 @tribal shore
tribal shore
Wdym
naive agate
@tribal shore please put a valid budget if not move it to #673059416634818591
tribal shore
done
slow ruin
@naive agate You referring to how to get a value of a domain?
slow ruin
Would more describe that domain as godlike than decent 😄
slow ruin
You can in no possible way sell that domain. That needs to be put on your resume "Proud owner of the Pussy.reviews domain"
slow ruin
😄
naive agate
It was a cat site
slow ruin
Only "Educational" content I would hope
naive agate
It was a cat image site
slow ruin
Would never had guessed. Would have opened incognito mode.
slow ruin
you're missing the pussy.reviews. U got graphics for that one as well? 😇
slow ruin
And here I thought I would end the night making a deal 😒
naive agate
offer
slow ruin
$8. If you think about it, it's more than $15
slow ruin
primal pecan
naive agate
woven prairie
checkmate
velvet crescent
woops Gian, randomly clicked kek
woven prairie
smh
fallow crow
how can I use all the GBs for the server
woven prairie
Set the Parma’s
slow ruin
I might be brain dead, but seems like GitHub linkup is bugged
mellow zinc
i really wanna call u brain dead for no reason at all - ur brain dead
muted fern
"bio": "Eivind#7839\r\n", @slow ruin You got a new line or some wack thing
slow ruin
@muted fern I would never had thought twice about the new line. Cheers 😄
I keep seeing people with ranks such as DeluxeMenus etc. Is that people who has contributed to the plugin or something?
muted fern
DeluxeMenus isnt a role?
The premium ones are roles, cause users can link their spigot
and it gives them roles to the ones they bought
which then gives them access to various premium support channels
slow ruin
Ohh, my mistake. Meant to say DeluxeChat. Also that answers my question, thanks 🙂
elfin minnow
If the emojis were gone the side when I hovered a message and the stupid background for the message is gone I'd like it a bit better
elfin minnow
also i personally dont like channels start at the bottom now
however its not a big deal
fallow crow
I noticed that days ago
elfin minnow
i've used the new UI for a while
primal pecan
how big of a hdd @untold hearth as some companies increase the speed as you go higher in space.
primal pecan
took awhile to get a nvme ssd's time remaining to be similar to your hdd time.
slow ruin
vague walrus
Anyone know of a bedwars plugin that's open source?
Wanting to make one for Sponge, but I wanted to get an idea of what all I'd need/practices to follow
primal pecan
potentially @vague walrus ? it isn't small, but never used but saw this and it's open sourced.
vague walrus
About the best one I've seen so far actually
I can work with that
Why did I level up :(
I didnt even want to be on that tracker, i went so long!
vague walrus
I dont think that'd be it.
I unless level 1 takes a solid 2 months to get
I used to talk a lot in here
primal pecan
nah likely as #development
it isn't tracked.
and the amount of xp you earn is random usually.
I've probably leveled up around 15 times since December.
vague walrus
Truly the worst
woven prairie
Give me a reason to donate it
velvet crescent
I need a new pc, ktnx @woven prairie
woven prairie
Then deal with my aids replies whilst I try commission
velvet crescent
How am I suppost to respond if you just leave on read smh
blazing oar
@woven prairie need it to pay my host
woven prairie
lol
woven prairie
I guess take a backup before
blazing oar
yes
that's not the problem
the problem is that like
currently all my plugins will shutdown
because they have a key linked to it
this means
everyone that uses my plugins
they won't work
blazing oar
ye srry.. forgot that
woven prairie
How do you have guys paying for your plugins (I assume cause they have a key), and not be able to cover, welp
blazing oar
lots of things to pay.. irl problems and also paid last week for a new website.. then I forgot to check my paypal and now I saw that I am poor .-.
mellow zinc
lul
primal pecan
i like the ow pfp @light scaffold.
light scaffold
azure egret
gang gang rank #69.
magic summit
elfin minnow
gang gang
muted fern
Thanks @slow ruin for the boost ❤️
elfin minnow
im curious why anticheats want specific ports
eternal apex
to contact with the developer's shitty drm server
fallow crow
trim raft
Use this to block those: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/networkinterceptor.53351/
elfin minnow
the plugin wont start unless it can make that connection lmao
unless that bypasses it
trim raft
works for me 🤷
eternal apex
@warped meteor you know you spelt hippos wrong right? https://www.hipopotofobia.xyz/hungryhipos/
warped meteor
Intentional
eternal apex
why?
warped meteor
Hipos is the first 4 letters of my username
My username I had to shorten into an MC name
Short for hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia
eternal apex
k then
warped meteor
I get that a lot. I dont blame you. May make an info section now 0.0
naive agate
@warped meteor If you wanna add more things add download button next to all of the emojis
warped meteor
Good idea :P. I'll look into it tomorrow :P
fallow crow
Someone help me in #chat-reaction ...
elfin minnow
dealt with
fallow crow
@elfin minnow and he just being toxic in aternos discord too after that :P
I gave him 2 weeks ban
velvet crescent
Yea it's odd some times
arctic raptor
Ur odd sometimes
velvet crescent
@wooden dagger Please use a valid budget
wooden dagger
velvet crescent
If only it was readable
pale grotto
what language is this in
woven prairie
oo
elfin minnow
boreal escarp
warped meteor
I can't get the z-index for the hearts on my site to work 0.0
Every other z-index works perfectly fine. Just the hearts don't want to follow it
mellow zinc
@elfin minnow i take offense
primal pecan
Welp, just bought my new car.
naive agate
😮 congrats what car
primal pecan
Nissan 2020 Altima
vague walrus
Shouldve gotten a ford pinto
mellow zinc
noice
arctic raptor
Ford found on road dead
velvet crescent
Check dms Drew
vague walrus
wowie never heard that one before
The joke being the ford pinto was famous for blowing up if it suffered a collision of 5 mph or more
velvet crescent
Time to buy a ford pinto
vague walrus
Yeehaw
Cars from that time area really weren't too much safer tbh, this was before the advent of safety features in cars
The ford pinto was partially the reason they exist today (because of a lot of shady dealing in the company that came to light)
velvet crescent
arctic raptor
I'm not going to check dms about that stuff when I've told you and everybody else 100 times it's not me who is dealing with it, it's patrick
And we've also said 100 times we don't provide DM support
You also message in the general chat, on here, my dms, AND in your ticket about it
velvet crescent
Considering you're the company owner, you'd be familiar with the situation
arctic raptor
Me and Patrick are both the owners. He deals with the majority of the development, and I deal with marketing and finances
velvet crescent
And yea I do, saturday was yesterday, yet servers still down
woven prairie
lol
sterile parrot
who you talking to @arctic raptor
velvet crescent
Me
arctic raptor
Don't ask me. I've told him and bugged him 100 times because I'm tired of you all constantly dming me
sterile parrot
lol
velvet crescent
Considering he doesn't respond, noone else to ask lmao
sterile parrot
just not the right discord to discuss that stuff in, seems like it can get out of hand quickly
woven prairie
This why I don't use random hosts lol
velvet crescent
I mean it's not random, it's a decent host. When it doesn't have issues
magic summit
Lol?
arctic raptor
He left while drunk and never got his level role back
magic summit
I mean all the "No ..." roles xD
velvet crescent
He leaves like twice a month if not more
arctic raptor
He's hardly on his computer, hell, discord anymore
magic summit
Not our problem xP
woven prairie
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/442869083692597248/676185842926223393/unknown.png
We like events here
boreal escarp
primal pecan
nice
@woven prairie guessing working on your own skyblock plugin, and would suggest adding visitor events.
woven prairie
Elaborate
regal juniper
That's a lot of events
woven prairie
There's the Warp/Enter ones
primal pecan
IslandVisitorEnterEvent
woven prairie
They'd still visit from /island warp <owner>, so, surely the WarpEvent covers that
untold hearth
@woven prairie why not be more specific?
boreal escarp
WhenAPlayerEnterAnotherPlayerIslandEvent
untold hearth
AtTheTimeInWhichAHumanoidEntityTravelsTowardsAnotherHumanoidEntitysHabitatOfDwellingEvent
Seems good to me...
mellow zinc
👍
boreal escarp
final AtTheTimeInWhichAHumanoidEntityTravelsTowardsAnotherHumanoidEntitysHabitatOfDwellingEvent atTheTimeInWhichAHumanoidEntityTravelsTowardsAnotherHumanoidEntitysHabitatOfDwellingEvent = new AtTheTimeInWhichAHumanoidEntityTravelsTowardsAnotherHumanoidEntitysHabitatOfDwellingEvent();
Bukkit.getPluginManager().callEvent(atTheTimeInWhichAHumanoidEntityTravelsTowardsAnotherHumanoidEntitysHabitatOfDwellingEvent);
if (atTheTimeInWhichAHumanoidEntityTravelsTowardsAnotherHumanoidEntitysHabitatOfDwellingEvent.isCancelled()) {
return;
}```Absolutely beautiful
eternal apex
there’s no final
boreal escarp
@eternal apex better be happy
eternal apex
name is a bit lacklustre, try to make your variables self documenting.
boreal escarp
??
regal juniper
Oop
magic summit
@woven prairie I would put the IslandKickEvent under member, as you kick a member from an island
velvet crescent
@boreal escarp THat's beautiful
velvet crescent
primal pecan
primal pecan
It takes a lot longer now to level up and my inactivity doesn't help either.
magic summit
Not our problem xP
mellow zinc
Not our problem xP
muted fern
@boreal escarp did u crash skyblock smh
boreal escarp
Maybe 
boreal escarp
@velvet crescent 😂 😂
winged portal
why does my cpu fan sound like im in a flight
woven prairie
o
boreal escarp
lmao
nocturne fossil
Yeh ;-;
boreal escarp
contact the staff
nocturne fossil
Alr
boreal escarp
also, since when is there an ad banner at the end of resource page?
eternal apex
when you aren’t logged in
waxen wave
How much do you guys think I should charge for let's say 5 magic weapons that:
- do not require me to make textures
- will be used in a public server which may earn the owners money
- will take me a week or so to develop, depending on how complicated they are
never sold a plugin to anyone, so I am really not sure
velvet crescent
Depends on what the magic weapons do
waxen wave
Shoot particles which affect entities and sometimes blocks
velvet crescent
I'd say like 30-50, that's just my opinion tho
fallow crow
OMG WTF
primal pecan
when yo router randomly turns off and takes yo self 3 hours to fix the damn issue.
fallow crow
I just read a post on Facebook that there's already a contract from a school to shut the education until 1/3
Here goes my summer...
primal pecan
elfin minnow
@fresh carbon the mine is very representative but its cool 
fresh carbon
😉
fair island
I can't wait to get this project finished and released 😉
woven prairie
Mood
mellow zinc
ok
mossy saddle
bruh
mossy saddle
no
trim raft
interesting price Gaby
boreal escarp
naive agate
Lmao
sterile kiln
wtw, since when this become high school chat channel? @boreal escarp
boreal escarp
Become what? xd
sterile kiln
and "Fxxx school!" you should become a school so that you get "F--ed" by many.
boreal escarp
You drunk vk? 😂
regal juniper
Clip and Vk drunk are basically the same.
boreal escarp
:))
woven prairie
primal pecan
vk doesn't stay in HC for that long it seems like.
regal juniper
I got an email on that.
velvet crescent
boreal escarp
😂
velvet crescent
fallow crow
Does anyone know if an ABN for a company has to be similar to a domain im tryna buy?
muted fern
abn as in Australian business number? or something totally different?
boreal escarp
A BaNana
muted fern
o
boreal escarp
¯_(ツ)_/¯
velvet crescent
Lol gaby
fallow crow
cos im tryna get a .com.au
but it needs an ABN
which i have, its just not linked to the thing im buying the domain for
fallow crow
aight
echo badge
Does anyone here use Minechat or similar apps (like PickaxeChat, ...) often?
echo badge
If you were still using it to this day, would you switch to another minecraft chat app if you could stay logged in (even if you minimized the app) and received push notifications when someone mentioned your name?
eternal apex
yep
echo badge
Okay, thanks
fallow crow
I used PickaxeChat up until now
echo badge
Alright
mellow zinc
didnt minechat have a problem where they were stealing ppls info? could be wrong
echo badge
It was a rumour. Nothing is/was proven.
woven prairie
Yep
woven prairie
Don't plan on releasing
fallow crow
If its just a throwaway can u send it to me lmao
dont have to if u wanna keep it private
all good
Can you get something from trash? XD
magic summit
You know... There are so many crate plugins out there that have things like open animations... But I still wait for one that actually allows you to create and load own ones.
boreal escarp
then make it
woven prairie
boreal escarp
damn
mellow zinc
cratesplus is decent. doesnt work on newer versions tho as no updates in a very long time
magic summit
@woven prairie I talk about a way for non-devs.
Like creating a file or editing the animation manually
boreal escarp
Imo that sounds way easier that it is
woven prairie
How'd you propose it's done?
velvet crescent
That's neat af @long summit
long summit
Thanks ;p
regal juniper
Probably not
primal pecan
@magic summit I had one of those in progress with unlimited customization just never had the time to finish it
Such as GUI Animation that sort of stuff you mean?
magic summit
I mean 3d animations
young temple
woven prairie
Soo.. S20
boreal escarp
@split basalt I thought that's a pic from your house in the right 😹
split basalt
ohshit
boreal escarp
also, if we are here
split basalt
boreal escarp
can you use custom nbt tags for textures?
boreal escarp
how 😮
split basalt
editing the language files to override local translations
boreal escarp
F
got any cool enchanted book texture that uses customModelData which I can borrow for a pic? xd @split basalt
primal pecan
lol
recently booted up mc and created a server on my dedi to see how 1.15.2 performs on it with a custom spigot.
woven prairie
What optimisations do you have on your custom spigot?
split basalt
nop not done any item textures yet @boreal escarp
mostly focused on blocks & flora -
boreal escarp
damn
primal pecan
There's a lot of optimizations, but a few are slime region format via SQL (for better world loading), sand optimization, dispenser optimization, lighting optimization, better spawner calculations, better spawner mob ai that sort of stuff.
@woven prairie
My dedicated server is i9-9900k, 128gb ddr4 memory, and 2x2tb nvme ssd.
woven prairie
Slime, for a production server? I anticipate it's a lobby or skyblock type, and not an open world?
primal pecan
I just developed the spigot for my own use awhile back for testing purposes but didn't test it thoroughly if it would be ran for a production server.
woven prairie
I see
primal pecan
Most of my worlds are a open world though as I generated it on a default world.
It's a ~5 second launch time (no plugins), but could likely improve some areas if I had the time to do it.
woven prairie
With all 3 world types?
narrow maple
Wow, this is one of the best plugins I've ever seen.
primal pecan
Yeah @woven prairie, but if I have time in the bit will likely do some more testing on first generation, not before it's being done.
@narrow maple what the crap are you talking about for a plugin?
woven prairie
That's insanely good. Would you ever share how you did it? Cause, that's good for a standard 1.12 server even
narrow maple
kylemarzen 🤦
primal pecan
Potentially in a bit if I don't find a use and do it as a repository. It's pretty much just optimization and math in some of the areas for loading.
I usually focused on areas that were along world manipulation.
regal juniper
I'd also be interested in playing with it.
woven prairie
I'm gonna be stress testing my stuff this weekend, welp
regal juniper
How do you plan to do that?
woven prairie
I have a streamer
regal juniper
Ahh
primal pecan
how many expected players from the streamer?
I knew a Arabian guy in the past in like ~2015 when he had like 700k subs and could get 600+ players for a livestream.
woven prairie
300-500, lol
woven prairie
Then, if all goes well, hopefully it becomes a weekly thing, and then I'll invest like $3-5k in slots, and try average that
Lol
primal pecan
are the players split between on servers or one server?
woven prairie
Split, of course
primal pecan
I assume you'd hit a peak if they aren't on the same server as the streamer.
woven prairie
This is mostly 1.15, haha
mellow zinc
arabs are crazy
primal pecan
The YTer is "RedFox".
mellow zinc
one of the players on my server is from qatar, next to saudi arabia and the guy legit sent me a video of a baby lion in his bedroom. so cute. one of the top donors on my server too
primal pecan
lol
Imma go spend some time messing with a 1.8.8 spigot seeing on how well slime would implement and change it in speed (assuming not a lot).
woven prairie
Why is that YTers name everywhere
primal pecan
Well he originally ran a server in the past.
had liken 400+ players (when he streamed)
and would go down to like 80+ players without that.
boreal escarp
F
woven prairie
I get messages about TSMC to this day, lmao 
woven prairie
It's decent now
mellow zinc
how many palyers?
boreal escarp
I have never understood why mineplex died
primal pecan
Hypixel
mellow zinc
^
primal pecan
and lack of gameplay.
mellow zinc
- anticheat = bad
boreal escarp
Ah welp
primal pecan
Here's a example of around a ~34k player difference.
primal pecan
I forget how many years ago when Hypixel beat Mineplex.
mellow zinc
3-4 years+
primal pecan
well wasn't it like a month ago when they hit 100k concurrent players?
mellow zinc
not sure
woven prairie
They hit close to 90k in the summer iirc
primal pecan
mellow zinc
ah
i thought it wouldve been like a site to see all the servers or atleast the big ones
mellow zinc
wouldve been cool though 😦
primal pecan
yeah but who has the time to have servers continuously track and keep data for the servers.
primal pecan
Last time I actually spent the time working on a server was 2-3 months ago.
Was finishing up a section of a custom GTA server I got bored to make.
regal juniper
It's been probably a year for me.
I keep getting offers to be a full-time Dev but my schedule doesn't allow that.
primal pecan
Most of my free time is being outside and working out to get back into a healthy stage.
mellow zinc
who needs college when java edition will allow u to be working for decent pay but the game might die in the next few years
primal pecan
I stopped doing private development whenever I got back into SpigotMC.
~2018 to see how premium plugins which go.
The time to manage a premium plugin is insane with people requests etc, while a private development is where you are either getting paid to do updates or they aren't huge.
I lost probably $15,000 due to bills over the months as I would usually be in the positive from private development vs premium plugins.
mellow zinc
thats pennies to u
regal juniper
It's actually not as bad as you think. Jut ignore the feature requests like I do.
primal pecan
Well I probably put 40 hours a week towards maintaining and improving my plugins and seeing what else I could add.
@mellow zinc most of my money goes to my plan of 5 steps due to the fact I spent 2 years of my high school classes taking a personal finance class knowing how to manage my money correctly. I still live in a set range even though I do make money due to my job.
My money is split into 5 paths:
--> 1. Bills
--> 2. Food/Water
--> 3. Gas
--> 4. Emergency Fund
--> 5. IRA
was just kidding. $15k is a lot of money no matter ur salary
IRA???????????
explain.
primal pecan
Individual Retirement Account
mellow zinc
but they basically did lots of terror attacks in the UK and northen ireland to get freedom for Ireland or some shit like that
primal pecan
Ah.
I live off ~$200/mo for groceries.
used to be a lot shitter on my food and how I spent it.
My family when growing up used to spend $200/week to feed a 6 person family (a bit much)
woven prairie
o
magic summit
Do you want to know something quite sad and funny, that makes Discord look even more stupid?
Like I found such a stupid "bug" that it is unbelievable they have it in the first place.
mellow zinc
uh huh
magic summit
The Discord Client doesn't support Gifs that have .GIF (probs the case with any not-lowercase gif) extension
Like that one doesn't play in the Client
It's so sad and funny at the same time
fallow crow
Nice xml :+1:
woven prairie
Look at this graph 🖼️
magic summit
Nope
fallow crow
Some guy off ebay sent me my package through that
and my house cant accept parcles for some reason
So it normally goes to the australia post office
but theres no "sendle" office near us
probs getting scammed so hard rn
mellow zinc
that whole thing just sounds like a bad postal service in the whole country
fallow crow
wait its an american company
but......
Im in australia 🤔
and apparently it was shipped from australia
mellow zinc
lol.
boreal escarp
😂
boreal escarp
O
velvet crescent
magic summit
I don't know how I should feel about the fact that I know the character on that body pillow
velvet crescent
oof
woven prairie
Horoscopes and Personalty Types mean absolutely nothing. What really matters is if you use Glass or Glass Panes when building a house
mellow zinc
🤔
boreal escarp
O
arctic raptor
@boreal escarp you need to check Retro Host employee announcements
elfin minnow
boreal escarp
maybe 👀
primal pecan
whatcha doing with yo laptop open @arctic raptor ?
arctic raptor
Looking at my options for another ssd
elfin minnow
put a nvme in it 
elfin minnow
it suc @untold hearth bc its WHITE background 
mellow zinc
all sites are bad if theyre not dark mode
fair island
elfin minnow
interesting
magic summit
......wat?
boreal escarp
@reef oar you really enjoy to make animations, aren't you? xd that looks amazing!
woven prairie
@reef oar What do you use to make them? Do you code them, or?
reef oar
Math
woven prairie
Well, of course, haha. I meant if there any helpers/utils lel
boreal escarp
His brain 
reef oar
@woven prairie Its only math
woven prairie
I'm impressed
woven prairie
I like your crate one
boreal escarp
One of the few moments when I wish I was paying attention to math class xd
reef oar
I do rendering 3d too without any engines in java