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frank pasture
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I wanted to add holos to my lib but didn’t know any good single classes to do it

primal pecan
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I'm done most of my libs.

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such as holograms, scoreboard (not a single class)

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you can't expect everything to be written good in a singular class.

frank pasture
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For holograms I’ve seen some single class ones

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But outdated

primal pecan
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I've got a singular hologram class one.

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I'm talking about scoreboards tho

frank pasture
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Ohh

primal pecan
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if you want animations etc

frank pasture
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Yeah ofc

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Not disclosing full feature set yet, but working on one of the coolest chat plugins

primal pecan
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ChitChat?

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that thing?

frank pasture
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Eh kinda but not fully, I took another shot at it today but started from scratch

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Prob will either be called CIFYChat or Chat

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I’m not sure yet, as I do want to prefix my plugins

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It has the tooltip stuff, click commands like normal

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But you can create unlimited sections, channel support and much more

elfin minnow
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imagine using a straw

primal pecan
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imagine having a life

elfin minnow
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i somewhat got that

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🙈

primal pecan
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A bunch of my pc parts are coming tomorrow.

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Atm got my motherboard, ssd, and power supply.

fringe sigil
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Ok so we gonna test this

regal juniper
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Morning

velvet crescent
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G'morning lad

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Almost 8pm here in the lands of EU

regal juniper
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I like how you all went and reviewed TestPlugins. It's only there cause I was testing the API route changes.

boreal escarp
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Anytime Glare.

velvet crescent
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It is a worthy server! A neat IP you can use is frosty.testplugins.com

boreal escarp
velvet crescent
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I gotta put on a spawn and actually organise it, just never bothered since I keep changing versions meaning I gotta change the world

boreal escarp
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same here

velvet crescent
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I wish I could have server profiles

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Just load the one I want and it would load the correct world as well as plugins

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Would make my life so much easier

boreal escarp
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Like premade severs or?

velvet crescent
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No, different profiles within one server

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ie.

> 1.8
> 1.12.2
> 1.14.4
> 1.15.1

Depending on what profile you choose it would load the correct world
ie.

> world_1.8
> world_nether_1.8
> world_the_end_1.8

And plugins
ie.

> plugins_1.8
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Basically different folders

boreal escarp
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ah

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you can move them manually though

viscid kraken
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too much work to do it manually though

jagged pollen
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Its clip!

fallow crow
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good morning babe @regal juniper

honest thistleBOT
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@fallow crow

Hey!

Please respect the rules, be patient and don't ping staff members!

fallow crow
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sorry Barry Bear

regal juniper
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You're up early

fallow crow
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Or did I sleep

regal juniper
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Probabaly not

primal pecan
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hi

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How's everyone's day going.

regal juniper
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Good. Getting a lot of cleaning done. Then I got more VP work to do.

fringe sigil
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Dumb program I wrotes data is trashed

fallow crow
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wow, i was kinda dumb

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gateway handles auth for mcbanners, but i was checking auth in the downstream service (which is only forwarded to if gateway auths successfully)

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all i had to do on the downstream is read the token (as I already know it's authed properly) and pull out some of the claims

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good shit

primal pecan
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Well who wants to hear some good monitor refresh rate news.

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360hz 🤟 @untold hearth u prob gonna be like I need dis.

mellow zinc
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no i need this

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asus rog swift 360 :)

regal juniper
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So all the work last night for was nothing?

frank pasture
primal pecan
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nice.

boreal escarp
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@fallow crow do you guys plan adding banners for BStats too?

trim raft
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🅱️stat 🅱️anners

boreal escarp
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BB

velvet crescent
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BBC

boreal escarp
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the tv channel

fallow crow
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we could

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we're at the point that new banners are just making a new layout and adding a route

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just need content for the banner

boreal escarp
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o

fallow crow
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im working on user accounts now tho, to stop the paramspam.gif

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all banners will be given a mnemonic; if you're logged in, congrats. you can edit the banner later. otherwise git fukd, you still get a mnemonic but its not editable, you'd have to make another banner later for modifications

boreal escarp
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That sounds cool

primal pecan
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A suggestion is to check if a server exists before launching the api in a new window.

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and potentially change the create button to a error button.

fallow crow
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oh on the quick creator

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yeah that's probably a good idea :p

primal pecan
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as I could put e

fallow crow
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yea

primal pecan
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and it launches a page without thinking it's a server.

fallow crow
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yea it just plugs in to the url and opens a new tab

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the actual generator won't let you do that

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but good catch, ty

primal pecan
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Another suggestion is.

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Using the default spigot resource icon

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if there isn't one for a resource.

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atm example if I put 9999 which is a resource without a icon

boreal escarp
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or make your own r_cooldoge

fallow crow
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something is broken then

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its supposed to put the default logo

primal pecan
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By the way why'd you make the site so thin?

fallow crow
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?

primal pecan
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like you have a lot of room for making it potentially where you don't need to scroll.

fallow crow
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we're still in alpha, i whipped that site up following chazza's mockup

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there will be changes at some point

primal pecan
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Ah.

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I'm atm busy trying to figure out cloudflare so I can test my UI for my site.

fallow crow
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albeit, title is too long so need a name override

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but

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yea, i must've diddled the wrong text in the nasty mess the frontend is rn

primal pecan
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ah makes sense.

regal juniper
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Easy fix

fallow crow
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it doesnt seem to be broken on the frontend for me

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nice

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anyway, barry deleted my message. i called the gateway a tard

regal juniper
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I get the default one too

fallow crow
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yea

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i think the gateway just pooped for a second

regal juniper
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Maybe

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But yeah good catch Kyle on the homepage thing.

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SMH where's Charlie with our fsvicon. I thought he would've just turned that svg into a mini icon

fallow crow
primal pecan
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@frank pasture ^

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quack

frank pasture
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o sorry working on CIFYChat rn

jagged pollen
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o u gonna call it that :p

magic summit
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Nice site tbh.... Even tho the generated link is way too long, even when default values are used

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@regal juniper ^

honest thistleBOT
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@magic summit

Hey!

Please respect the rules, be patient and don't ping staff members!

magic summit
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Oh shush Barry.

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You didn't complain the last times

fallow crow
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@magic summit yes we're aware, that's why we're making the mnemonic system

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configure, then generate will give a custom URL with the settings saved; if you're not logged in, then you can't edit it again. if you are, it's saved and you can edit it later

magic summit
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Where on the github org could I open suggestions?
On the website one?

fallow crow
magic summit
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Where on the github org could I open suggestions?

fallow crow
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I mean, there...

frank pasture
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@jagged pollen I'll prob call it that anyway, idk

honest thistleBOT
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@frank pasture

Hey!

Please respect the rules, be patient and don't ping staff members!

frank pasture
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u can setup shortcuts for channels, or use /channel command

jagged pollen
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cool

frank pasture
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making progress at least

fallow crow
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:p

primal pecan
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@fallow crow what's the point of the "Coming Soon" in the Server Status Service if there's no use for it at the moment.

fallow crow
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i dunno glare put it there

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you guys can yell at glare too

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i mainly fix his shit :D

primal pecan
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@regal juniper what's the point of the repositories on there btw, I understand you made em public, but without your "boot" project which seems like it does the SpringApplication you can't really tell how to improve other than the rest of the classes which I will start leaving a doc probably.

honest thistleBOT
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@primal pecan

Hey!

Please respect the rules, be patient and don't ping staff members!

primal pecan
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oi baas.

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baas about to turn into a fish.

fallow crow
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what "repositories"?

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you mean the gh ones?

primal pecan
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github ye.

fallow crow
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what do you mean what's the point

primal pecan
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Read the rest of my message.

fallow crow
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yes, i did

primal pecan
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and you'll find the point of the message.

regal juniper
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Well that coming soon was supposed to be a 24 hour placeholder for me to implement but then I don't

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Didn't

fallow crow
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that doesn't make sense, without the 'boot' project? why would that have anything to do with whether or not the repos have a point

primal pecan
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I see you open-sourced the side projects, but my point is without the boot "project" you can't really tell how to improve other than the side classes.

regal juniper
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What the hell are you smoking

fallow crow
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by side projects you mean all the repos besides banner-api and website?

regal juniper
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I want whatever he's having

frank pasture
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HAHA

fallow crow
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those aren't side, they're part of the essential architecture

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it's microservices

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but yes if you're asking for docs bc it's confusing

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i agree

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we'll do it eventually

primal pecan
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well never mind, I didn't read the main imports you were doing in the main class, I kept reading them as your own boot but it was spring.

fallow crow
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yeah, its called SpringBoot

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but they're all spring boot projects, each one of em

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not just one

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they all work together

primal pecan
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A small improvement in your ServerController for the mcapi is to remove the else.

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        ServerStatus status = serverStatusService.getStatus(host, port);
        if (status == null) {
            return new ResponseEntity<>(HttpStatus.NOT_FOUND);
        }
    return new ResponseEntity<>(status, HttpStatus.OK);
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to become above.

fallow crow
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yeah that one im putting fully on glare, he wrote it 100%. all i did was hook it into the microservices :P

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@regal juniper ur trash

boreal escarp
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I like this guy

primal pecan
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@regal juniper a potential improvement to your Author class in the banner-api repository. Even though it's not major is to add followers count (not super important and not needed)

fallow crow
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does ore and spiget both have follower counts?

primal pecan
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ore?

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what is "ore".

fallow crow
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sponge's resource manager

primal pecan
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no idea I never use Sponge.

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If it isn't then never mind about that.

fallow crow
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unfortunately it doesn't look like spiget has it, and im doubtful about ore

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yea neither do

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sorry :/

split basalt
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E

primal pecan
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What do you mean by "nodes" mate lol, you aren't giving me the full information @floral crescent.

limber scaffold
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Mmm

frank pasture
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mmM

fallow crow
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just finished fixing the paramspam on mcbanners, it'll be pushed out tomorrow probably. just need to finish saving banners and letting you see them in your user dashboard

velvet crescent
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Neat

fallow crow
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now it gets the banner defaults from the server, and diffs the changes on the website with server default and only sends the object keys that changed instead of every key possible (even when default)

velvet crescent
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Will we be able to upload our own banner design?

fallow crow
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not yet, i hadn't even though of that but i dont see why not

velvet crescent
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Would be cool

fallow crow
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shouldnt be hard

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just need disk space >.>

regal juniper
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Only thing I can think of would be that yeah

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BUT

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What if we can have it do it via Imgur or something

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They upload to imgur, provide the URL and then the API parses that as data somehow

fallow crow
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is imgur permanent though

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like, for sures

regal juniper
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Afaik yes

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I've had images up there for 4 or 5 years now.

fallow crow
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yea well, like igaf if they put a broken image link their banner

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if they didnt sign up they'll just have to make a new banner

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but yea

regal juniper
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Yeah

fallow crow
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they could just specify a background with an image link i guess

regal juniper
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I just don't want people upload innapropro content to our servers, so if we use imgur as a MITM

fallow crow
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but...err..we'd have to make sure they're not feeding us malware lmaooo

regal juniper
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Another reason I'd feel safer requiring an imgur link

fallow crow
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true

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yea i dont see why not, if we dont even store files ourselves and just use a link it shouldnt be a problem

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we do that already for sponge bc they dont embed their images

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we have to hit another url and plaster it on top of the banner

regal juniper
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I'm fine with that, saves us from storing the images, other than just in the cache.

fallow crow
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aight well that'll be down the road anyway

regal juniper
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Yurr

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Dang, it got late quick.

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I can probably squeeze in 2 episodes of South Park b4 bed.

velvet crescent
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Time to upload my sexy Snowman banner

regal juniper
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=lvl

honest thistleBOT
regal juniper
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I like my background

fallow crow
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ok weirdo

regal juniper
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Hmm, barry has a banner generator already but like

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Maybe we v2 it for Cube

fallow crow
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im still utterly shaken to my core how bad the original banner api was

regal juniper
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LOL

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Sec

fallow crow
regal juniper
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I just realized I have the old one running. When we get ready to release v1, I'll add a small message in the bottom of all existing banners saying deletion in like 1 week

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And then link them the new one

fallow crow
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yea

regal juniper
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I also plan to write up a nice post for each platform

velvet crescent
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=lvl

honest thistleBOT
regal juniper
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and post it on the forums

fallow crow
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i expect my name to be crowned in gold and mentioned at least 300 times

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(im kidding)

regal juniper
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Oh don't worry, your name will be on there.

fallow crow
regal juniper
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I just figured I'd post it under my account because I have more followers, I'm nice, you're an asshole, etc.

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/s

fallow crow
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im not

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i mean*

regal juniper
fallow crow
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accurate

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yeah, holy fuck

velvet crescent
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A simple banner generator

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There's your name

regal juniper
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LOL

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@fallow crow I just logged in on the mcbanners github and upvoted it.

fallow crow
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LUL

regal juniper
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We're up to 7 😄

fallow crow
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it's been 24 days of pure hell

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and he hasn't deleted

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:/

regal juniper
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Oops

fallow crow
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Glare is a russian spy confirmed

regal juniper
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The Russians are talking in the guilds channel

fallow crow
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oh, im not on the buyers list

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so

regal juniper
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Other discord numbnuts

fallow crow
regal juniper
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=tier

honest thistleBOT
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Your Current Level Tier

Let's see how far along you are:

Current Tier:

Tier IV

Contains Levels:

30 - 39

regal juniper
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The shit that funnycube does with images and code is honestly amazing.

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=profile

honest thistleBOT
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regal juniper
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Yo we gotta do skins and heads and shit later down the road

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That'd be dope

fallow crow
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yeah for sure

regal juniper
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Smh

regal juniper
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It's quiet.

sterile parrot
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it is quite quiet

regal juniper
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Ya

frank pasture
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it’s quite quite quiet

regal juniper
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Ya

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You should make us a favicon

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So I can put it on tiwtter too

frank pasture
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Oke will get ya it later when on PC 😄

echo badge
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@frank pasture

regal juniper
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I swear Charlie treats Discord status like Facebook

frank pasture
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I do 😂

regal juniper
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Tbf it's all British people

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They are the only kids I know that use Facebook too

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I miss my time in London.

frank pasture
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You should come back London is nice

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I use Facebook it’s good

regal juniper
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I'm more of an in-personal social.

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I'm hardcore outrovert.

frank pasture
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Since I got a bird I’ve become more social

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She keeps me away from my laptop

regal juniper
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I go back to school in 11 days. I'll get to be more social again. Also means I won't be here that much, but yeah. By then, VP should be released.

frank pasture
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I start my job soon

regal juniper
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That'll be fun.

frank pasture
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Was meant to start it Monday but grand father died the other day, so been spending the time with my mum to keep her company

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So prob starting job Friday now

regal juniper
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Ahh. Probably for the best.

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Hope all is well.

frank pasture
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Thank you, eh sad times but know to keep strong as it won’t change anything

regal juniper
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Ya. I think that's one reason I don't let that stuff get to me is that I have just been trained to always be strong about emotional stuff.

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But some things just get to me.

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Things I would've never guessed would too

frank pasture
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Yeah exactly, we all have feelings it’s normal - just I know keep strong because it’s not like he can just come back

regal juniper
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Ya

velvet crescent
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@frank pasture My condolences

regal juniper
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I feel guilty doing Uber Eats at home when I can just drive there 🤔

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It is also 4AM

frank pasture
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I do that lmao

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@velvet crescent thank you ❤️

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Except mine is walk there

regal juniper
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Yikes

frank pasture
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😂

regal juniper
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Everything around me is closed

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Actually McDonalds opens in 3 minutes

frank pasture
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Wait for that

regal juniper
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I could also just go make an omelet

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Or go to bed

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Meh I'll just stay up tonight

frank pasture
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@regal juniper there updated my Discbook status

regal juniper
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That could be me in like an hour

frank pasture
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HAHA

regal juniper
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I don't want to get out of bed too early

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Could go for an early morning walk

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Meh

frank pasture
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Sound like Kyle

regal juniper
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Lol

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Kyle thinks people with anxiety should just stay home.

frank pasture
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HAHAHA

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rly? Tf

regal juniper
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I'm watching South Park

frank pasture
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Ooo fancy

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Just looking at one of my irl website twitter pages, starting to kill it real good

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My impressions are doing well, ~3k impressions per tweet from like 11h ago

regal juniper
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Nice.

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$14 for delivery hmm

frank pasture
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Bruh

regal juniper
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Not like the fee but total

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With food

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But like.... Omlet downstairs... For free...

nocturne fossil
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Omlet

frank pasture
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I prefer Omelets instead

woven prairie
jagged pollen
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o indeed

boreal escarp
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O

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Star

frank pasture
eternal apex
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venturechat vs cifychat

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which is superior?

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also that sorta thing is what #showcase is for

frank pasture
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nah cuz people will -1 bomb it

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cuz "DeLuXecHaT Is SsUpErIoR"

primal pecan
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so what lol it's a opinion.

frank pasture
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i dont need others opinions tho 😛 publicly anyway

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ive already had lots of my customers PM saying how awesome this is, and they can't wait to buy

jagged pollen
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Well its dchat with the things that clip hasn't added yet (unless dchat 2 is actually a thing somewhere on clip's pc :p) but nice

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And venturechat's files are trash, sorry for this but yea

eternal apex
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venturechat's config is a bit shit, but feature wise it's still superior

jagged pollen
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Yea it got alot if features

eternal apex
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useful features I should mention

jagged pollen
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Oh lol

eternal apex
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I think chatcontrol pro takes the crown for most features, although iirc a lot of them are gimmicks

frank pasture
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ye I wanted dchat features honestly, but doesn't seem to be updated anymore feature wise

fallow crow
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Why tf is this on my recommendation...

frank pasture
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@eternal apex u got better luck of seeing the pope

eternal apex
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u fr reply before I can repost

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k

frank pasture
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HHA

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cuz I saw it for a sec

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then went boom

eternal apex
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surely I could go to his mansion or whatever

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whichever country that is in

frank pasture
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clips?

eternal apex
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and wait until he starts waving his hands around on his balcony

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the pope

frank pasture
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o lmfao

boreal escarp
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Vatican / Italy

boreal escarp
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Does anybody now if the anti piracy placeholders from mcm are already working?

frank pasture
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lucky day

eternal apex
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god

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why they gotta use that abbreviation

frank pasture
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HAHA

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fuck knows

boreal escarp
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😐

eternal apex
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mcp is reserved for mod coder pack

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people need to understand this

elfin minnow
eternal apex
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suppose it don't matter too much for regular mc players, only affects developers

frank pasture
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i mean even if i saw MCP in server list

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i wouldnt guess that

eternal apex
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that's the first thing I think of

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actually the only thing I think of when I see that abbreviation

velvet crescent
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Have you seen Finnsters livestream kek?

jagged pollen
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who is finnster kek

velvet crescent
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yikes

eternal apex
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never heard of them either

frank pasture
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some yter

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aka tigs alias

primal pecan
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isn't it a boy tho.

velvet crescent
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He is yes

frank pasture
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dope ive made it so if ur section is blank (e.g. u have a tag, and its disabled so blank) it wont show it

primal pecan
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imma go take a shower before I go do my 5 hours.

frank pasture
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      prefix:
        display: "&f%vault_prefix%"
        click_command: ""
        tooltip:
          - '&7This is my rank!'```
velvet crescent
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neat

frank pasture
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cuz of cifylib, already had papi support

velvet crescent
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Can we get an amount of people inside a specific channel?

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ie.
There are %channel_users_amount% in the %channel_id% channel!

frank pasture
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😮

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I'd love to add that

velvet crescent
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added it to the config so you kinda have to now 🤷

frank pasture
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lel, thats fine

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just make up new placeholders

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I can add em after

velvet crescent
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Gucci

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Also what's the command to switch a channel?

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And how are the priorities sorted high > low or low > high

frank pasture
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/channel <id>

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higher priority takes over

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as i feel its the best option

velvet crescent
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Ye makes more sense

frank pasture
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ye, otherwise too confusing

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it only shows what they have access to (sorted by priority)

velvet crescent
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Could we have OR messages? ie. If a user is in a channel/has permission, it would send them the message

Not in the channel: You have successfully switched to "channel"
In a channel: You are already in that channel!
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Would make it so we don't need JS for that kind of stuff

frank pasture
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Ye already exists kinda

velvet crescent
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Perhaps another argument:

[RELATIONAL] First Message ? Second Message
frank pasture
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if u mean that

velvet crescent
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No I mean so we could define it in our own messages, ie.

click_actions:
- '[MESSAGE] &8(&6!&8) &7You are currently in the &6%channel_id_capital% &7channel&6!'
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But that would only make sense if the user was in that channel already

frank pasture
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ohhh I see, otherwise could just make them run /channel %id%

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as it'll send them the same msg

velvet crescent
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Doesn't allow as much customizability tho

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(Just a suggestion for the future if possible)

frank pasture
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yeye, idk how I would do it even so

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so maybe a js thing for now

velvet crescent
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yuh

frank pasture
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for if u do same channel

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o the dank thing I love is the channel shortcuts

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e.g. ! at start of message to post in staff

velvet crescent
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Yea that's neat

frank pasture
velvet crescent
#

So far

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Added two new placeholders:
%channel_id_capital% - Capitalizes the first channel letter
%channel_users_amount% - Shows the concurent users in that channel
(Does not show vanished users)

frank pasture
#

Dope ideas, yeah

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I suppose channel_users_amount uses the players current channel users

#

And yeah I would need to exclude vanished

elfin minnow
#

how u doing this lol

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dchat?

velvet crescent
#

no

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His own plugin

frank pasture
#

^

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CIFYChat 😉 dropping next few days

velvet crescent
#

I'll feed you more ideas, got some things to try but not sure what the limitations would be

frank pasture
#

Yeah, and depending on features I may be able to add if needed

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I need to add PM system yet, bungee support

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Bungee support will be per channel

velvet crescent
#

Still looking for projects PeepoBeer

frank pasture
#

👀

velvet crescent
frank pasture
#

Wowza

velvet crescent
#

Meh weak

frank pasture
#

This will prob end up being $9.99, ofc 25% to every current customer

velvet crescent
#

Just throw in features, if it's good people will buy

frank pasture
#

Yeah, so far I already have a good amount, but PM feature and bungee per channel will be good

#

Like you can do donator and staff as global

velvet crescent
#

I'll take a look at LT config now

frank pasture
#

LT needs a huge recode it’s a mess

velvet crescent
#

wHy Am I nOt SuRpRiSeD

frank pasture
#

Haha it’s the oldest plugin out of them all in fairness

velvet crescent
#

Come on Charlie, I need a smaller/medium project to work on pepo_sad

frank pasture
#

Err

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Booster plugin

#

That’s been on my plugin todo list for a while

velvet crescent
#

Interesting, and what would the boosters do?

frank pasture
#

You know like Arkham network

#

You get a booster item, right click it

#

And everyone gets the boost, /booster shows GUI with the time left on which one

primal pecan
#

lel

frank pasture
#

You can have a booster object, with a onUse() onExpiry() method

primal pecan
#

Atm doing my 5 hours + some discord but won’t respond often

frank pasture
#

Wow

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If you’re unsure @velvet crescent just go on Arkham they have it, would be an awesome plugin to make

#

Then devs can hook in and add their own booster types

primal pecan
#

That’s a thing known as QuickSell that has that feature

velvet crescent
#

A few plugins have that feature, is there a standalone one?

#

I'll try Charlie

frank pasture
#

I’d add a booster type to my plugins too, otherwise if you don’t like the idea I’d take a shot at it. It’s been something I wanted to make for AGES

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being the guy who spent $100 on $2.50 boosters on Arkham.. eek

velvet crescent
#

Nah I'll make, but I'll give you access to it later so you can perfect it (clean up my jank code if necesary) and perhaps put it on songoda

frank pasture
#

Lel 👀

frank pasture
#

Welp my laptop decided again (tho happens rarely) to warm up in my backpack

#

And now it’s really fucking hot, hope I didn’t damage components

sterile parrot
#

why would they choose your chat plugin over a free one

#

that's a genuine question btw, what does it make stand out?

boreal escarp
#

^

frank pasture
#

wdym

sterile parrot
#

why would they choose to buy your chat plugin over a free alternative

frank pasture
#

Well no good free ones out there rn, they are confusing, featureless, they cap u at like 3 different 'sections'

sterile parrot
#

what new features do you have to over for example

frank pasture
#

prefix, name, suffix

sterile parrot
#

venturechat is free and has it all

frank pasture
#

eh couldn't use it when I tried before

#

was too confusing for someone looking for a all round plugin

sterile parrot
#

isn't too hard to use and has good support for many plugins and many plugins support venturechat

frank pasture
#

In fairness

#

this is a premium chat solution

#

it wont be cheap

boreal escarp
#

tbh if the author of venture will edit the plugin a little could be one one of the best chat plugins

frank pasture
#

because its pitched at enterprise networks

#

who have the money

sterile parrot
#

and why would the 'enterprise networks' not use something else

frank pasture
#

because they want a product that has great support, easy to use, configurable etc

boreal escarp
#

and being expensive definitely means the best

frank pasture
#

More or less it interprets that yes

sterile parrot
#

like why does your plugin stand out from the others

frank pasture
#

The same way a ferrari is deemed better than ford

#

when u see the price tag, people know it must be good

sterile parrot
#

nobody buys a ferrari for the price

boreal escarp
#

meh

sterile parrot
#

that's just nonsense

frank pasture
#

Not only for the price, but its a deciding factor

#

My products are all pitched to a higher price, and it certainly works

jade oasis
#

big networks will either use a free chat plugin or develop their own

boreal escarp
#

Agree scholtes.

frank pasture
#

Then u can count dchat out

#

so 😛

sterile parrot
#

dhcat hasn't been a good plugin for years

frank pasture
#

ROFL

sterile parrot
#

as in it doesn't stand out to any other whatsoeevr

#

it literally only has json

frank pasture
#

But this is what I mean, u can't dig at me when dchat is in a similar boat

jade oasis
#

dchat was made like 5 years ago

sterile parrot
#

dchat used to be the one which stand out

#

since it has json which no other had

jade oasis
#

all the tooltips and shit was cool 5 yeare ago

boreal escarp
#

Don't hide behind this argument "deluxechat doesn't stand out either"

frank pasture
#

I can 😛

#

Dchat still sells

jade oasis
#

barely

frank pasture
#

I've done enough research, read books etc and all my products sell well because I market them good

#

Heck, kiddos here complain about spoof yet it sells good

jade oasis
#

people who use dchat are usually the ones who bought it when it was big

sterile parrot
#

nobody said you couldn't market

#

but we/I was interested in why it's 'better'

frank pasture
#

I mean it doesn't fuss me what people want to use, I know my plugin will sell

jade oasis
#

what will the price be chazza?

frank pasture
#

$9.99

#

It's not meant to be some cheap shitty product

#

I know on launch I can expect a good volume of sales

jade oasis
#

only issue is most people that would buy a premium chat plugin bought deluxechat for that price

#

so i dont see them spending another $10 to switch to something else

frank pasture
#

I have customers of my other plugins who did message to say they'd want to buy and switch

#

because they see how dchat lacks features

sterile parrot
#

All I wanted to know if it had something special which it doesn't. Which isn't wrong or anything.

frank pasture
#

which mine does

#

it does, but wont be going into full length

sterile parrot
#

I mean dchat lacks a lot of features and isn't a top chat plugin

frank pasture
#

until its actually a end thing

sterile parrot
#

anymore

pure bane
#

But u did basically copy the config to an unfinished dchat2

sterile parrot
#

it used to be very good

jade oasis
#

lol

frank pasture
#

idk even about dchat2

#

so how can I "copy"

#

lol..

jade oasis
#

clip update dchat and add features

pure bane
#

Mhmm I posted the config style here in this discord many times

frank pasture
#

Didn't even think u cared about the plugin anymore

jade oasis
#

just cos

#

dchat update 2020?

frank pasture
#

genuinely never seen the config lol, so don't go at me

#

because I genuinely interpreted it was a dead project

velvet crescent
#

Howdy Scholtes

jade oasis
#

hey frosty

boreal escarp
#

hopefully scholtes xd

jade oasis
#

ezblocks update 2020?

#

ezprestige??

boreal escarp
primal pecan
#

lol

jade oasis
#

im waiting for clip's kids to pick up his plugins

elfin minnow
primal pecan
#

You’ll be waiting awhile lol

frank pasture
#

HAHA

jade oasis
#

u know that meme MATH IS MATH

frank pasture
#

might drop cifychat soon, and work on other features as a future release

primal pecan
#

I could recode EZBlocks if Clip wanted someone too in my spare time

velvet crescent
frank pasture
#

its -SNAPSHOT

pure bane
velvet crescent
#

ah

frank pasture
#

well I wouldn't call that similar

jade oasis
#

u know that meme MATH IS MATH
i can imagine 60yo clip shouting at his kids CODING IS CODING

frank pasture
#

or a "copy"

sterile parrot
#

in all fairness a chat plugin's config is hard to be 'unique' since it all comes down to channels and json lol.

frank pasture
#

rofl

pure bane
#

It’s all good get your money dude

velvet crescent
frank pasture
#

I mean I guess I can consider it positive feedback

primal pecan
#

hola senorita clip

pure bane
#

Guess this should motivate me to finish a rewrite

frank pasture
#

@velvet crescent do u have jitpack repo?

velvet crescent
#

ye

frank pasture
#

odd

velvet crescent
jade oasis
#

EZRanks release when? @pure bane

primal pecan
#

Wym

sterile parrot
#

clip can't even come online to talk casually smh

primal pecan
#

There’s Pro already

elfin minnow
#

CIFYChat sounds stupid

primal pecan
#

It does lol

velvet crescent
#

Agreed, should change it to Chat

primal pecan
#

The first part sounds trash to Deluxe version

frank pasture
#

It's done because of branding and SEO

jade oasis
#

ezranks -> ezrankslite -> ezrankspro

#

thats how it evolved

sterile parrot
#

Chat by Cify

frank pasture
#

CIFY = CodeItForYou

sterile parrot
#

`Chat by dr dre

boreal escarp
#

"Strategy"

pure bane
frank pasture
#

It's done for SEO reasons

jade oasis
#

and EZRanks was a good plugin

primal pecan
#

Mario’s castle

frank pasture
#

so we appear unique on search

#

meaning less results

sterile parrot
#

that's one way to take this too seriously lol

frank pasture
#

so easier for someone to find the product

jade oasis
#

Call it "EZChat"

frank pasture
#

nah sticking with CIFYChat

long summit
#

Code it for you sounds better for like libs and other things like that, for people that "code"
You should choose a different name when it comes to products for server owners

frank pasture
#

cify is a brand

#

thats why

jade oasis
#

cify sounds odd

boreal escarp
#

What chat plugin are you using?
Cif ... cfy .. chatcif .. CRAP I FORGOT

frank pasture
#

its my desired name

elfin minnow
#

find another way to advertise it

#

like most of clips stuff is "DELUXE"

frank pasture
#

I say it as "S-iffy" Chat

elfin minnow
#

or "EZ"

hallow sage
#

its your desired name after you couldnt get codeitall

frank pasture
#

ye

jade oasis
#

EZKid and DeluxeBaby

boreal escarp
#

lmao

frank pasture
#

I'm happy with the name, its staying as is

pure bane
#

The plugin money really isn’t shit to me anymore though. It’s nice for a McDouble or dinner on a Friday night. Maybe I just need to dominate the plugin game and do everything free

elfin minnow
#

but calling it "CIFYChat" honestly sounds stupid long

frank pasture
#

stupid long

#

its shorter than deluxechat

#

😂

#

so no logic there

jade oasis
#

deluxechat has a good ring to it

elfin minnow
#

yea you should buy Code It For You Chat plugin

frank pasture
#

yes because its a branded product

jade oasis
#

deluxechat comes off more as one word

pure bane
#

Just call it chat

boreal escarp
#

Acting like you sell microsoft products

jade oasis
#

Chatty

frank pasture
#

Nah it’s staying as it is

#

I won’t be swaye

pure bane
#

And don’t hate cuz dchat still sells

boreal escarp
#

CIFY®️ Chat©️™️

frank pasture
#

It’s so everything stays the same

jade oasis
#

lemme go buy some CIFYChat

pure bane
elfin minnow
#

yea imma buy some sci-fi chat confusedsmudge

sterile parrot
#

lmfao

jade oasis
#

the spelling is what puts it off

#

if it was like

#

CifyChat or SiffyChat

sterile parrot
#

y'all flamming too much on poor chazza man

boreal escarp
#

lmao lemmo

frank pasture
#

dude I don’t mind lol, I just laugh

arctic raptor
#

Yahoo 🤮

elfin minnow
#

tHe prooo charlie

frank pasture
#

I make some money as a side project with my plugins so I don’t mind

elfin minnow
#

and his promise ring after 3 months confusedsmudge

boreal escarp
#

pro
I was like "wtf is wrong with lemmo" @sterile parrot

pure bane
#

Next chaz will have an autosell being released

frank pasture
#

Nah

#

Auto sell is actually good

jade oasis
#

If you like Chat, you'll love CIFYChat

long summit
#

CIFYAutoSell

boreal escarp
#

Clip, listen to use for fuck sake

elfin minnow
#

he remade DeluxeTags to PlayerTags

boreal escarp
#

@pure bane

frank pasture
#

If dchat was good and feature full

boreal escarp
#

OS

#

that's it

#

OS

frank pasture
#

We would be sticking with it

jade oasis
#

EZPrestige next?

elfin minnow
#

idk the difference is tbh

pure bane
#

Yeah he’s on my dick

boreal escarp
#

Do it bro

pure bane
#

All love tho

elfin minnow
#

Ptags vs Dtags

#

whats the difference confusedsmudge

#

mysql difference i bet

boreal escarp
#

lol tig

#

xd

jade oasis
#

makes this

boreal escarp
#

??

frank pasture
#

Eh I don’t need to fight and explain myself it sells

jade oasis
#

but high quality

frank pasture
#

Clip does nice products, I make nice ones

jade oasis
#

who removed EZRanks

frank pasture
#

I wouldn’t go remake autosell it has the features it needs

frank pasture
#

Dchat I bought in 2014, didn’t get updated much anymore

#

And I didn’t like other competitors

jade oasis
#

clip u remove ezranks jar?

frank pasture
#

That are out there

#

I wanted a plugin I could use for my irl servers that had certain features

pure bane
#

I like your style tho. You hopped on a wave and I see it. Find the features clip is too lazy to implement and sell

frank pasture
#

So I took it on myself to make one

pure bane
#

All love

frank pasture
#

❤️

#

I mean I’ve supported you since 2014

elfin minnow
#

clip its january 7th confusedsmudge

frank pasture
#

Bought every single one of your stuff

elfin minnow
#

new pfp

frank pasture
#

And tig it’s not a “promise ring”

#

That’s American rubbish

jade oasis
#

chazza im gonna send u the ezranks jar cos for some reason i cant send it here?

frank pasture
#

Why tho

#

I have it bought

jade oasis
#

u should remake it

frank pasture
#

I bought all of his stuff lol...

jade oasis
#

its an old one

frank pasture
#

I don’t want to

jade oasis
#

from 2013 i think

boreal escarp
#

ezrankslite

jade oasis
#

its way different thank ezrankslite or pro

frank pasture
#

The plugin works as it should

jade oasis
#

no its something els

#

else

#

its very different

frank pasture
#

Nah I don’t care

#

Not of interest

#

EZRanks works as it should nicely

jade oasis
#

what are u on about have u listened to a word i said

frank pasture
#

I make products that meet my demand

#

That o need for my server

#

E.g. I want channels, Bungeecord n stuff

jade oasis
#

whatever

frank pasture
#

And venture chat last I tried was rubbish

fringe sigil
#

Eventually when I no longer have time or energy to properly maintain KiteBoard I would make it free and possibly open source it

sterile parrot
#

my shit is opensource yet nobody contributes

fringe sigil
#

Exactly

sterile parrot
#

but it's shit code anyway lol

fringe sigil
#

That’s what everyone said about HolographicExtension

#

“I would update it but it’s not open source”

frank pasture
#

@fringe sigil I would do the same tho, I’d open source when I leave

fringe sigil
#

Open sources it

#

And 1 guy contributes over 1 year or something

sterile parrot
#

what is holographicextension tho

frank pasture
#

Once my irl job gets to a nice pay, I’ll more than likely drop most of my stuff

sterile parrot
#

how did you accept a job without nice pay

frank pasture
#

Well you start low

#

And go@up

fringe sigil
#

^

frank pasture
#

Because a junior

sterile parrot
#

I know but you still start decent lol

fringe sigil
#

You don’t expect him to straight get into big bucks do you?

sterile parrot
#

My irl job is software engineer too lol

frank pasture
#

£18k I’m on starting salary, top guy is £100k

#

You don’t just go in get top money lol

#

You have to get experience and work your way up

fringe sigil
#

Oo what language?

sterile parrot
#

not big bucks but not that you have to sell minecraft plugins

#

@fringe sigil who u talking to

fringe sigil
#

Both I guess

frank pasture
#

Err I’m not sure, I haven’t started yet, but when my job scales up I’ll prob open source my stuff

fringe sigil
#

Well actually Lemmo you were working with Laravel weren’t you

sterile parrot
#

I work with a load of languages

#

which does include frameworks like laravel yea

frank pasture
#

I’m learning that

#

Bit by bot

elfin minnow
#

imagine coding a plugin in spaghetti language

sterile parrot
#

I made an complete abstraction framework for laravel

boreal escarp
#

laravel is a framework for what lemmo?

frank pasture
#

PHP

sterile parrot
#

mvc in php

eternal apex
#

php

fringe sigil
#

Web n stuff

boreal escarp
#

k

eternal apex
#

example close to home, dragon bird panel uses it

sterile parrot
#

songoda too

boreal escarp
#

how can you tell

eternal apex
#

wappalyzer for songoda I’d assume

sterile parrot
#

easy to notice laravel has it's quirks

eternal apex
#

you just look at the code for ptero

sterile parrot
#

what is wappalyzer?

boreal escarp
#

talking about songoda's website

eternal apex
#

chrome ploogin

sterile parrot
#

ah

jade oasis
#

not me fyi but my friends

frank pasture
#

Ptero panel is on laravel too

jade oasis
#

red = 1st motor
blue = 2nd motor
green = both motors

eternal apex
#

that’s what I just said¿ chaz

boreal escarp
#

El piggy

#

¿?

sterile parrot
#

@fringe sigil only language I haven't done anything in for work is Java xD

boreal escarp
#

a big lose for them

fringe sigil
#

Yeah you can tell it’s Laravel if it’s broken

magic summit
#

I thought about a site who would be useful in analyzing stacktraces... Thing is: How to recognize Stacktraces? xD

boreal escarp
#

show them that LMC spicy code

fringe sigil
#

Jks

eternal apex
#

that sounds useless andre

sterile parrot
#

lmc isn't good code tho lol

fringe sigil
#

Probably extract the plugin names @magic summit

eternal apex
#

stack traces are fine as is

fringe sigil
#

If you could accurately get the actual plugin causing the issue

#

And not the say KiteBoard because someone’s Papi expansion is broken which is the real issue

magic summit
#

@eternal apex Not for server owners who have no freaking idea how to read them and what the issue is

sterile parrot
#

anyway I gtg I kinda wanna finish this before the meeting of tomorrow

#

cya

eternal apex
#

bye

pure bane
#

Don’t blame the expansion @fringe sigil

#

Blame the end user

magic summit
#

Like 99% of all "LP has issues with database" problems is caused by the user not understanding the stacktrace

eternal apex
#

I think those sort of plugins already exist andre

fringe sigil
#

True

pure bane
#

Make a stacktrace for dummies site that breaks it down

#

Boom

#

Hey dumbass, looks like something is null in kiteboard

magic summit
#

I thought about a site where you just post your logs and the site/api checks for stacktraces and if its database knows about it and a possible solution

pure bane
#

😂😂

#

No one would use it

#

Anyone who doesn’t know or care to know will do the same things they always do

magic summit
#

No one would use it
No proof for that when you not try it

fringe sigil
#

☹️

#

People who write Papi expansions that return null instead of “”

fallow crow
#

Is there ANY way to get rid of that

velvet crescent
#

Click the cross

fallow crow
#

the wot

boreal escarp
#

try to delete the channel

#

otherwise no

primal pecan
#

No man lol

#

Unless you delete the channel and recreate then no like Gaby mentioned

fair island
#

@frank pasture fix your site, thanks

frank pasture
#

@fair island wat

timid rose
#

@fallow crow just send message then delete it

frank pasture
#

wdym tho

fallow crow
#

You can't delete it @timid rose

frank pasture
#

works for me

fair island
#

my data, it's not encrypted

timid rose
#

@fallow crow send a message as in talk in the channel, then delete your message

#

Nvm, used to work

elfin minnow
#

love the template kek

frank pasture
#

@fair island done

fair island
#

?

jade oasis
#

"Good shit." - funnycube

frank pasture
#

👍

magic summit
#

Anyone else feels pain when reading this?

mellow wedge
#

@empty sun did you add me?

#

I got a notification but it’s not there anymore

empty sun
#

I did.

mellow wedge
#

What did ye need?

fallow crow
#

Nvm

primal pecan
#

@frank pasture work on increasing the speed of the site loading.

#

takes a solid 6-7s for it to load for me.

mellow zinc
#

lol bad pc

primal pecan
#

No? lol

#

bad pc doesn't mean your site loading speed lmao

#

Kaliber's brain strength != required discord server strength.

mellow zinc
#

smh cant tell the difference between a joke

velvet crescent
#

Takes like 1 sec for me

#

Not even that

mellow zinc
#

^

primal pecan
#

probably both in the EU.

velvet crescent
#

tRaSh NeT

primal pecan
#

I'm in the US pretty much next to NY

#

well now it's 3-4s but eh just saying could always be improved.

#

I'm atm still working on improving my site loading times as my site is working from a sub domain just isn't working publicly yet for the main site.

magic summit
#

Who tagged me?

primal pecan
#

love how overwatch is struggling to keep OW running.

#

welp it crashed lol

mellow zinc
#

lol bad pc

primal pecan
#

si

#

iNtEgRaTeD gRaPhIcS wOw @mellow zinc

frank pasture
#

@primal pecan site loads fast for me

primal pecan
#

guessing it was first time load idk.

frank pasture
#

Wouldn’t be a “EU” thing, it’s on cloud flare

untold hearth
#

@frank pasture those are some huge statistics you got there

frank pasture
#

@untold hearth yep, all true

untold hearth
#

I love some good honest statistics

frank pasture
#

with the downloads, RV factors the main amount

#

with the success rate, the satisfaction with all our customers shows it all

untold hearth
#

I aspire to be as successful as you one day dad

frank pasture
#

k

#

First step; remove the toxity

#

then remove kotlin

#

and you'll be gucci

frank pasture
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no u

mellow zinc
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i think the satisfaction number may be inflated by me

untold hearth
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You should hyperlink this text

fair island
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I finally enjoy using FAWE. 🙂

frank pasture
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o ty

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@mellow zinc u love my stuff thats why

untold hearth
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ONLY THE TEXT

fair island
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charlie, can i dm you

frank pasture
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sure

mellow zinc
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ofc ❤️

untold hearth
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Oh.... also clicking the logo at the top left sends you to a 404

frank pasture
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❤️ o rly

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rip

untold hearth
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y u no contact form?

frank pasture
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dont wanna set that shit up

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its a pain

untold hearth
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How so?

frank pasture
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need to set it to send an email etc

untold hearth
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You could embed a google form

frank pasture
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o then dank

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@untold hearth also I now final all my params!!

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u proud of me

untold hearth
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Have you ever used google forms?

frank pasture
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no

untold hearth
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The backend for it is kinda slick

frank pasture
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wew

untold hearth
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And yes, I am proud

frank pasture
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    public void setActions(final List<String> actions) {
        this.actions = actions;
    }```
untold hearth
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You get a nice statistics layout, and you can export it to an excel format

frank pasture
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wow ill defo have to add that

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ty

untold hearth
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This is my favourite feature

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Pie graphs of multi choice options

boreal escarp
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looks good

plucky depot
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Just realised I'm making an API for a plugin's API that runs off of spigot's API. api-ception?

fringe sigil
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@untold hearth @eternal apex What’s a good way of not storing duplicates in mysql

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For each row I could store the same string a lot of times

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So I could make a relation ship but not sure

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Basically need to save as much space as possible

boreal escarp
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unique keys?

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like an id or idk

untold hearth
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@fringe sigil what are you storing?

fringe sigil
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Flight data

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Positions of aircraft

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As you may know I made AS1 file format

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Which is extremely efficient data storage wise

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But slow and difficult to query in future

untold hearth
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And what do you mean by not storing duplicates?

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Do you want to just like... truncate values that are the same?

fringe sigil
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kind of

elfin minnow
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any of you math majors in here

arctic raptor
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oh hell no

elfin minnow
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oH please

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this shit boring

honest thistleBOT
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FAQ Answer:
arctic raptor
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lmfao

elfin minnow
fallow crow
boreal escarp
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fair enough

mellow zinc
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@elfin minnow u literally just put the numbers in and put whatevers the answer is on ur calculator for the exact length? so all decimal places?

elfin minnow
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no