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fallow crow
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but more laggy

boreal escarp
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lmao

fair island
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why you guys spoiling the suprise

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i promise it's nothing stupid @fallow crow knows what i'm making (pls dont tell them charlie)

tired garden
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Don't suppose anyone knows of a XenForo plugin that displays staff members?

fair island
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Online staff members on the forums or??

tired garden
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I'm aware of XenForo's built in staff list, though I've seen other forums display their staff members on a hierarchal list.

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Like that

fair island
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that's probably custom made

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unless i'm wrong. I might be I don't know

tired garden
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I've seen lots of forums have the same type of thing, so thought it could be a resource I don't know about.

fair island
tired garden
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I'm running XF 2.1.

fair island
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my bad

tired garden
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It's ok, thanks anyway.

fair island
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that supports 2.1

tired garden
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That's essentially XF's built-in staff list.

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I'm looking for a tab on the "members" page which displays all staff regardless of online status.

fair island
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my apologies

tired garden
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It's alright lol. Thanks anyway.

fair island
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i've never been rich enough to own XenForo so i never really touched addons

tired garden
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Haha, that's understandable.

boreal escarp
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Any way to get a new name on spigot for free? 😹

fair island
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yes

boreal escarp
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Dont feel like paying 5$ only for that.

fair island
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there is a way

boreal escarp
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Dont say "create a new account".

fair island
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let me pay for it

boreal escarp
fair island
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boreal escarp
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Deal

fair island
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5 bux is like 30 mins mins of my job

boreal escarp
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You rich boy

fair island
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not yet.

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monday is payday

boreal escarp
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Idk what I was doing when I have created the account and I ended with GabTM as username ...

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But fr, if anybody knows a way lmk pls xD

fair island
boreal escarp
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Stop being a meme haha

fringe sigil
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he

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lp

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I put spigot in my plugins folder is no work.

fair island
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I no joke actually want to buy that domain now 😂

boreal escarp
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lol

fair island
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I WANT PAYDAY. NOW

boreal escarp
fair island
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wait you made those converter plugins? 😮

boreal escarp
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ye

fair island
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you're that legend?

boreal escarp
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haha ❤

fair island
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You've saved so much time for so many people you probs won't believe it

rough river
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@tired garden man use NAMELESS

tired garden
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What?

boreal escarp
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wait, you have used it?

rough river
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nameless is like xenforo but for free and its better for mc community then xenforo

fair island
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"free"

tired garden
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That's very opinionated.

fringe sigil
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Oh that actually looks quite nice

fair island
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oh. I just looked up "nameless" and there's a company in my city what has that name

rough river
boreal escarp
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:))

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that looks bad tho shitty internet lol

fair island
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does it?

rough river
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yeah because he probably working on adminteam page

fair island
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where's the css omfg...

rough river
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probably underwork

fair island
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never give public acess until it's completed...

fallow crow
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oof

boreal escarp
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Excellent. Although the latest version doesn't support 1.8x servers. The older versions do. I highly recommend DeluxeMenus to make GUI creation easier. Chestcommands looked highly easier and compatible with 1.8x compared to this but both plugins are incredibly rated and needed.

rough river
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its not mine

boreal escarp
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Comparing dm with chestcommands 🤢

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it works for me charlie

fair island
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Busy Mode?!

boreal escarp
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Wish spigot had an option so users can answer to reviews from other users resources ....

fallow crow
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it was down for a while

boreal escarp
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But have like See x more comments... and under show author's comment

fallow crow
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@boreal escarp it would require rework of the xenforo resource manager

boreal escarp
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cant anyone else edit it?

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Spigot it's already so basic imo

fallow crow
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addons aren't easy to modify

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esp if its like xenforos own one

boreal escarp
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ught

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@sinful fiber dark theme pls xD

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Also, what's the link?

sinful fiber
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hard

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ill update it in a while with new theme, just need to prepare bit more content for an update

long summit
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@boreal escarp Also an option to report a review would be nice too, i feel like just posting an error as a review shouldn't be considered a review and we should be able to report it

eternal apex
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report the user themselves, and link the review

boreal escarp
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It was removed because spigot staff couldnt bother with such a thing

long summit
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Is that a thing?

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I didn't know

boreal escarp
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Tried to report the resource and mention why and it was denied

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multiple times

ebon storm
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hi

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would've push the fix sooner but i wasn't near computer lol

boreal escarp
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xD

sinful fiber
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@boreal escarp how do you like the project if i can ask you thinking_derp

boreal escarp
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Looks dope

sinful fiber
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ok thanks

boreal escarp
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btw update the papi hook robi 😛

ebon storm
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aaa

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on it

fallow crow
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debating walking to costa thonk

rough river
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idk here in my country i cant afford to go drink there

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but like in usa or other countries no problem

velvet crescent
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What's the best way to decompile a plugin

eternal apex
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a mix of cfr and procyon

velvet crescent
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No clue what you just said

eternal apex
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cfr is a fucking awesome decompiler

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procyon is pretty cool, cfr is better tho

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cfr isn't perfect though, and sometimes u need to use procyon

velvet crescent
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I'll google, thank you

eternal apex
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procyon isn't your traditional decompiler. It doesn't necessarily decompile, but rather attempts to reconstruct, but unfortunately sometimes getting critical logic muddled in the process. i.e, you use cfr, and anything cfr can't decompile, you use procyon on

boreal escarp
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Watch out for ppl that will take the fact that you decompile their plugin too far

fallow crow
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Eh I’m against it

eternal apex
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the gpl is against your opinion on the matter

jagged pollen
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Yea GPL, and few license

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Not all

fallow crow
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I’m sure if you asked any of the devs on spigot who have premium resources (that don’t do the stupid open source + paid) they will be the same

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About decompiling someone’s hard work

jagged pollen
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U gotta watch out the licensing of the plugin ure decompiling

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yea Charlie

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some kids doesn't take the "someone's work" part seriously

sterile parrot
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yet they have to provide the source

eternal apex
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^

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as I've stated before,

aBooDyyToday at 11:14 PM
U gotta watch out the licensing of the plugin ure decompiling```
No, you don't, every plugin is under gplv3.
fallow crow
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Yeah but cmon nobody is going to do that

velvet crescent
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I mean I'm decompiling Charlie's plugin so <o/

fallow crow
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Go ask AAC dev to open source it

sterile parrot
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not open source

fallow crow
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Or heck, even clip 😂

velvet crescent
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if only Charlie made it OS thonking

sterile parrot
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they have to provide it to whoever they distribute it to

fallow crow
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Imagine spoof being OS, lol never

velvet crescent
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OS PlayerTags for me

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ktnx

fallow crow
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Haha

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It’s too powerful to be OS

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😉

boreal escarp
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😛

velvet crescent
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Private repo it

eternal apex
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they don't have to provide it with the binary, they're only required to if explicitly requested by the user.

sterile parrot
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it is shit but sure

fallow crow
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What’s shit

velvet crescent
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Need the tag selecting part

fallow crow
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Spoof or PT?

sterile parrot
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i’m kidding charlie

fallow crow
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Was gonna say

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PT is more advanced and spoof is in its own ballpark

sterile parrot
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I don’t know since I do not know source

fallow crow
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Like idc to admit I’m proud as fuck making spoof and it’s one bomb plugin

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@eternal apex babe how’s that essentials module thing we all talked about

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You made progress on that?

jagged pollen
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well u guys may be right, but its kinda weird that premium plugins in spigot that has like ```TOS:

  • Its a closed source plugin``` got approved without anyone saying anything to them?
boreal escarp
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he's killing some russians rn

fallow crow
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Hahaha

eternal apex
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it's a very little known fact aboodyy

jagged pollen
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wdym? So spigot staff doesn't know about that?

eternal apex
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charlie, my framework could create the majority of the plugin in a couple of lines, all I'd need to make is an api for the modules to use

boreal escarp
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p.p

eternal apex
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aboodyy, I'm sure some of them are aware, but they're not enforcers of law, only their own guidelines

jagged pollen
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Yea thats my point, why spigot doesn't add that to their guidelines if thats a thing

fallow crow
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Like I’m all for open sourcing free plugins

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But my paid ones like spoof which I spent a ton of time on

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I wouldn’t ever give the source out

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Not free anyway

velvet crescent
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Charlie, make a private PT repo

eternal apex
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it's simply not needed aboodyy, and on a lesser degree, spigot doesn't want to deal with angry developers

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what if you were getting sued charlie?

fallow crow
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I wouldn’t though

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It’s minecrsft kiddos

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Who aren’t going to be able to afford to go to court lol

jagged pollen
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Eh, i guess they should cuz its the place where plugins gets distributed

boreal escarp
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dont be that sure charlie

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not everyone that play minecraft it's 12yo

fallow crow
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I wouldn’t even need to worry about being “sued”

woven prairie
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We were once in court over MC 😮

jagged pollen
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Well if he isnt a kid, then he understands the meaning of "its someone's work" so hell pay for it

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And respect that

eternal apex
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yeah actually, with something like spoof, it doesn't take a stretch of imagination to see a court situation taking place

fallow crow
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Why would it

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My TOS covers me for everything

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In terms of business damage

eternal apex
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lol

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your tos

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what a meme

fallow crow
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You saying spoof should be OS is a bigger meme boi

eternal apex
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lemme just see how much of this gpl invalidates

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actually not as much as I thought

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basically nulls all the stuff in 2, except for 2.a.4

fallow crow
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So it’s not a meme you should take it back 😉

jagged pollen
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Im thinking about it, its kinda unfair that if a software is based on another (and its under gpl), it should use the same license

fallow crow
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I’ve never seen someone go to court over w plugin and I’m yet to see it, so many other developers wouldn’t give the source if you asked

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Go ask AAC dev see what his response is lol

jagged pollen
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yea, cuz he spent a lot of time on it... Why would he just simply give it on a plate of gold to someone

eternal apex
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because that's the license he agreed to

jagged pollen
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Fair enough

fallow crow
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I’d stand up to it, so +1 aboo

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The same way I spent a lot of time on Spoof and would refuse to give source

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Feel free to take it further and I can guarantee nobody would spend the time and money going to court

velvet crescent
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If you ask me, most of these licenses are biggest memes I've seen in my life

jagged pollen
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Piggy's point is totally true, but we go back to the fact that why his work should have the same license of the software its based on (its based on, but most/all of it is his work)

pale grotto
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you know what

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let's not take those people to court or even leakers

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let's take people who bite ice cream straight to court instead

boreal escarp
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lol

fallow crow
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+1

eternal apex
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aboodyy, simply because, plugins are "aggregates" of bukkit, and that's the term used in gpl. They extend bukkit, and are therefore part of bukkit, and therefore under bukkit's license.

fallow crow
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Ahh I see, but nobody would follow through with it

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Nobody would say yeah I’ve spent so much time on this, have the source for free

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Because this community is too prone to leakers

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And absolute skids

jagged pollen
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Who "owns" bukkit now btw?

eternal apex
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mojang

jagged pollen
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o, so Microsoft

eternal apex
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yea

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mojang has owned bukkit for ages

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I think before the dmca

jagged pollen
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Can they be nice and change that kek

eternal apex
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I doubt it

fallow crow
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Yeah they secretly owned it

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And back in like 2014 I thibk

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They revealed they owned it

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And it was shocking

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Feels old when you’ve been doing mc for many years

jagged pollen
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lol

fallow crow
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I joined spigot in late 2014 but I was into mc way before back in PE before realms

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When they used to have the crap UI with 3 buttons

eternal apex
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yep, aboodyy, looks like they can't simply change the license

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they'd have to get permission from everyone who has ever contributed to bukkit first

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Consider this situation: 1) X releases V1 of a project under the GPL. 2) Y contributes to the development of V2 with changes and new code based on V1. 3) X wants to convert V2 to a non-GPL license. Does X need Y's permission? (#Consider)
Yes. Y was required to release its version under the GNU GPL, as a consequence of basing it on X's version V1. Nothing required Y to agree to any other license for its code. Therefore, X must get Y's permission before releasing that code under another license.```
jagged pollen
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oof sounds like alot of effort

eternal apex
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it's completely unachievable

jagged pollen
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Anyway, as they would do it of they could :p

eternal apex
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I doubt it

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gplv3 isn't thattt bad

jagged pollen
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Yea, the only part i want to be changed (and every developer i guess) is the same license for all softwares that are based on it.

fallow crow
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Well this chat made me decide

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Ima sell the source code to my plugins

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as an option

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anyone watching the live 2019?

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no

woven prairie
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ofc

boreal escarp
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Nope, watching netflix :P

fallow crow
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and with all this gpl stuff

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:3

arctic raptor
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Can't people just distribute it once they buy it tgough

fallow crow
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It's not exclusive.

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tho

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^

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it's if people want to buy the source

arctic raptor
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Yeah ik but I'll just be leaked

fallow crow
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Well for $100

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I really doubt a leaker would risk it

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so your out of $100 in the end.

arctic raptor
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I never said the people of the Mc world were smart

fallow crow
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though I'd prob be picky

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who I sell to

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like it has to be someone verified at a server

arctic raptor
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Just say they must be reputable

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Do a background check or just make them send you a link to Mcm or one of those sites

dusky sorrel
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vote rn

fallow crow
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Yeah I'd be careful

sterile parrot
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I mean they can force you to give the source

fallow crow
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I wouldn't lol

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they can do 1

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Otherwise tell gian that too 😉

woven prairie
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lol

arctic raptor
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Oh. My. God

velvet crescent
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If they ask for source, just say you lost it, problem solved GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

arctic raptor
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Minecon

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Is working with elemental animation or whatever

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The village news LOL

sterile parrot
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Interested in how the process would go of legally forcing someone to give the source

velvet crescent
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lol Drew

fallow crow
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Honestly I’d say take me to court

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Cheaper to pay $100 for my source

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Than thousands in court

eternal apex
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it'd be a 100% lose for you though if you were to go to court

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so you'd also be out of money

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potentially a lot more than the person who is suing you

fallow crow
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I know I’d prob lose but

sterile parrot
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yup

fallow crow
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The person would better off paying for source

velvet crescent
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tbf you could just refund the person and remove their access to the plugin

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Problem solved.

fallow crow
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Yeah

eternal apex
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not sure what gpl's stance on that is

sterile parrot
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I’m interested if they’ve written about thst yeah

velvet crescent
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I mean they can't really do much about it, since they were refunded

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How to beat the system 101 smart

sterile parrot
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depends on if the license says something about that

velvet crescent
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Probably doesn't

eternal apex
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attempting to elude perhaps

velvet crescent
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Well no, attempting to elude would mean you don't give them their money back

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And as far as I know you're allowed to remove someones access if you so feel

eternal apex
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I'd say that refunding their money in the hope to circumvent legal action is eluding

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that's law though, and I've got no idea if that's the case

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i'm gonna look through gpl, see if I can spot anything

velvet crescent
eternal apex
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not sure if this covers it

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You may convey verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice; keep intact all notices stating that this License and any non-permissive terms added in accord with section 7 apply to the code; keep intact all notices of the absence of any warranty; and give all recipients a copy of this License along with the Program.

You may charge any price or no price for each copy that you convey, and you may offer support or warranty protection for a fee.```
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let's assume it does, in which case, even if the author has officially revoked your "access" to the software, the software is still under gpl and therefore the author is subject to it's guidelines

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such as, providing source at request

fallow crow
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I still think they wouldn’t go to thst effort

eternal apex
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ignore reality, let's focus on theory just for fun

sterile parrot
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^^^^^^

velvet crescent
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You may charge any price or no price for each copy that you convey
Does this reffer to the plugin itself or the source

eternal apex
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the product

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if the source were a standalone product, you could circumvent it, but in the event that you're attempting to sell the source separately from the product, the buyer would still be able to request the source without fear of charge.

fallow crow
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Actually actually

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Spoof could circumvent it

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Because it’s Injected

eternal apex
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gpl is loose on it's aggregation terms, regardless of whether physical references to bukkit are present in the code, if the end result is that bukkit's functionality is modified or extended in any way, shape or form, your product is also under gpl

sterile parrot
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it still is under gpl I’d assume

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yeah exactly

fallow crow
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The same as the custom spigots on mcm for sale

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I doubt any of those dudes would just give out source

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I even paid for source to one of them

eternal apex
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i love custom spigots

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I remember a guy who said he made a fully multi threaded spigot

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literally just used concurrent implementations of data structures

woven prairie
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mood

eternal apex
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didn't actually have any multi threading going on

velvet crescent
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Boutta go purchase Charlie's PT's just so I can tell em to give me source :p

jagged pollen
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How about making a new Bukkit/Spigot 😀

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not a fork, a new one

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MCPlugins.jar 👀

woven prairie
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Nether update 😮

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Also

fallow crow
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@velvet crescent ya ain’t getting it 😂 take me to court daddy

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Piggy yeah the one I bought has multi threading

velvet crescent
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I'm allowed to decompile ye? (personal sue)

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use*

long summit
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Finally nether biomes.

velvet crescent
fallow crow
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Nein

velvet crescent
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wdym nein

trim raft
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1.15 is nether update

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also mountains won

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@woven prairie you think there will be capes? kappa

woven prairie
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At the event? Def

trim raft
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O:

velvet crescent
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I want a cape ,-,

trim raft
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cape prices skyrocket

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i deadass want one

velvet crescent
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I'm interested in the design they're gonna go for :p

trim raft
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probs gonna be a newer mob

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maybe one of the new nether mobs

boreal escarp
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FL - Florida?

trim raft
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yea

boreal escarp
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Shit

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Not even far

trim raft
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i would go

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but i won't be able to rip

boreal escarp
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Do you live close or?

trim raft
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hell no lmao

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i'd have to fly

boreal escarp
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Lol

trim raft
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its in Orlando

velvet crescent
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shame

trim raft
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Wasn't that where the second minecon was?

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cuz 2012 was in Paris

velvet crescent
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do they give out the codes, or do they set it to your actual account?

trim raft
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What?

velvet crescent
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for the cape

trim raft
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you mean back in 2016?

velvet crescent
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talking in general

trim raft
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idk

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i think they used to do codes

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then in 2016 they switched to accounts to prevent reselling

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or something

velvet crescent
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shame

trim raft
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Why? lol

fallow crow
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When you've found your old private github that has over 500+ private projects:

velvet crescent
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Was gonna cop a code Brett

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cause I can't attend it, so buying was an option

trim raft
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just buy an account

velvet crescent
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Why would I buy an account when I have all the shit on my current one

trim raft
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to get a cape?

velvet crescent
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Ye but what's the point of having a cape on a rand ass account?

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lol

trim raft
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ask everyone on mcm who buys those accounts

velvet crescent
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Ye but they buy them to resell

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I'm looking for one to use for myself

trim raft
fallow crow
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@trim raft wrong, 2011 was account

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And every year after was codes

trim raft
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o

fallow crow
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I have 2x 2015s and one 2016

trim raft
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where was 2011?

fallow crow
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I attended 2015 and bought my 2016

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Some random place

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With notch

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Like some field

trim raft
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Nashville

fallow crow
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My 2016 code wasn’t bad price

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I got mine for $310

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They sell for up to $450

velvet crescent
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How many codes can you get per person tho?

trim raft
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one

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on each account

fallow crow
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One per ticket

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When I went with my dad I got 2 codes

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Because we had our own tickets

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But since 2015 you needed to attend to actually get the code

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Looks like ima save for Minecraft Festival

velvet crescent
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Brett you going alone or 😏

velvet crescent
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ah rip

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Hopefully codes won't be expensive af..

trim raft
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ye

fallow crow
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I’d need to fly

velvet crescent
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my pc boutta fly through the window

trim raft
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ayy the Minecraft youtube channel hit 4million subs during Minecon Live

boreal escarp
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Is there a way to view .md files on windows, without any program?

fallow crow
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Hey

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Is it worth it to get Discord Nitro? been debating to buy a year.

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I've been gone for 3 years

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Im bacl

magic summit
little kettle
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Who do I contact regarding getting my premium rank so I can get premium support? I linked my spigot account here but nothing happened.

fallow crow
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How long ago did you buy the plugin

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I think the bot takes a while

little kettle
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Like 20mins ago

magic summit
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Wasn't there a command to refresh it?

fallow crow
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Oh really

magic summit
velvet crescent
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I'm a goddamn idiot, thought it was sunday night already amd I had to wake up early tommorrow, then I looked at the clock and saw it's 6 past midnight :p

woven prairie
magic summit
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What is Piglin?

woven prairie
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New mob coming in the nether update

magic summit
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Screenshots?

boreal escarp
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some kind of weird bull

magic summit
woven prairie
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We knew that tho

fallow crow
boreal escarp
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Yea, meh

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he's md

magic summit
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Man....

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I personally would've liked that

fallow crow
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I found it silly personally

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Only because you'd get people bomb each review

tired garden
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Not sure why anyone other that the author would need to reply to a review.

pale grotto
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@woven prairie acc friend request

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ab a serious matter

woven prairie
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lol

storm eagle
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Anyone knows a plugin that hits a block a without mining it

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Like wynncraft mining system

fallow crow
arctic raptor
#

llol

fringe sigil
#

That took me a monent

fallow crow
#

LOL

fringe sigil
#

Fun fact: Jackson for json is really fast

#

Cutdown parse time from 9 seconds to 1.3

fallow crow
#

😮

muted fern
#

Barry got a tad excited

fringe sigil
#

Is blur,cannot see

fallow crow
#

Yeah I think I’ve decided

#

Ima skip iPhone and buy AirPods

fringe sigil
#

😮

sterile parrot
#

he too broke

fallow crow
#

Welp I did it 😂

#

Couldn’t be bothered to save £1300

#

So I bought AirPods

#

Eh they are compact

#

I bought them merely because small and easy to carry, I have my beats for when I’m at home

#

I wanted something I could leave in my pocket

#

And just use in the car, or going somewhere

#

Geez

#

Yeah AirPods look promising to me anyway

#

It’s just more for portability

#

My beats are too big for in the car or anything

#

I wanna be able to leave them in my pocket n shit

twin dune
#

Charlie - why not gift me nitro 😛

fallow crow
#

I had senheizzer ones @torpid shale and got them refunded

#

Didn’t like it

#

@twin dune I’m broke now lol

#

That was all the money I had

twin dune
#

oof

fallow crow
#

Love that difference

#

Because so many payments waiting to come out

#

Oh

boreal escarp
#

😮

fallow crow
#

Lucky

twin dune
#

hahaha - I've seen that before

fallow crow
#

Ok so update

#

They are really good

#

Better than I expected

fringe sigil
#

Ah darn think my hardrive might go again

fallow crow
#

hard drive

fringe sigil
#

Well hope not

twin dune
#

Any PC building experts in the house?

fringe sigil
#

Jackson is sick

#

You know what

jade oasis
fringe sigil
#

Might try building websites with it

jade oasis
#

Not for myself

fringe sigil
#

Looks pretty good

jade oasis
#

How many players should it be able to handle running a fairly large modpack

#

Currently a shared host is being used with about 16gigs of ram and it can run about 10 players with some lag

fringe sigil
#

Myself I have no idea

#

But 10 players on 16gb suprises me

boreal escarp
#

It's modded niall

fallow crow
#

ye drugs are in tap water

#

and micro plastics

boreal escarp
#

Wondered why you are so high daily

fallow crow
#

shh

#

jk lmao never

#

wouldn't EVER do that shit

eternal apex
#

anyone know what the plugin that removes the server switch screen on bungee?

#

like when you change server, it's instant

#

I can't remember what it's called

fallow crow
#

isn't it a mod

#

I swear

eternal apex
#

nah

boreal escarp
#

I think it's a mod too

eternal apex
#

it's not

#

I'm 100% sure it's a plugin

fallow crow
#

ye its a mod iirc

eternal apex
#

it's not .-.

#

hypixel does it

#

I've used it before, I just can't remember what the bungee alternative is called

boreal escarp
fallow crow
#

ye

#

i even tried searching

eternal apex
#

maybe the plugin works for bungee too, I should probably try it out

fallow crow
#

cant find anything

boreal escarp
#

Ught I hate so much when discord takes ages to update after you switch to another app

fallow crow
#

thats your best bet

eternal apex
#

ah

#

this is it

#

looks like it was removed

#

shame

fallow crow
#

damn no src on github

#

tried to find

eternal apex
#

it's like it's been completely wiped from the internet

#

can't find it anywhere

fallow crow
#

rip

vague walrus
#

Did you try the waybackmachine?

eternal apex
#

yea

#

I've found a link, problem is it's on pan.baidu

fallow crow
#

@eternal apex need your help, how would you store the following (temp cache):
UUID, ServerId, Placeholder, PlaceholderResult

eternal apex
#

in an object

fallow crow
#

i thought about that, but wasn't sure

#

idk a good name tho

#

PlayerData

#

idk

eternal apex
#

depends on what it's meant for

fallow crow
#

its a plugin that grabs placeholders from other servers

#

pretty dank

woven prairie
#

Welp

fallow crow
#

?

eternal apex
#

yeah welp is a good word

fallow crow
#

why

eternal apex
fallow crow
#

why is welp?

eternal apex
#

you need an account to download from baidu

fallow crow
#

wat

eternal apex
#

and you need a chinese phone number for an account

fallow crow
#

im talking about above

woven prairie
fallow crow
#

o thats what u meant

#

lmao

eternal apex
#

o wtf u have it

#

sort of

fallow crow
#

HAHA

eternal apex
#

who includes their git history in the binary

fallow crow
#

that man does

eternal apex
#

gian, pls send it

#

idek care if there's no code

#

i'll reconstruct it from the git stuff if I have to

fallow crow
#

ROFL

woven prairie
fallow crow
#

👀

#

gian the real mvp

woven prairie
#

lel

boreal escarp
#

we need to turn helpchat into mcforums v2 👀

#

=flex

honest thistleBOT
#
HelpChat Stats

Here are some guild wide stats for your eyeballs. :eyes:

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Level Ups:

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Pastes Created:

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Words Scrambled:

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Total Messages:

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Guild Members:

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Date Created:

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fallow crow
#

xd

#

helpchat could just advertise mcp ez

eternal apex
#

that'll never happen while you continue to use that abbreviation

boreal escarp
#

lol

fringe sigil
#

mcp?

eternal apex
#

generally known as mod coder pack

#

although charlie uses the abbreviation for his forum for some reason

long summit
#

They stopped updating MCP right?

eternal apex
#

yea pretty much

fallow crow
#

hahaha

eternal apex
#

the official version at least

fallow crow
#

MCPF

#

is mine then

boreal escarp
#

F?

eternal apex
#

forum

boreal escarp
#

Eh

fallow crow
#

actually

#

MP

#

would work

#

Minecraft Plugins

eternal apex
fallow crow
#

ah shit

#

fuck ye

eternal apex
#

u gonna put it on the ecloud?

boreal escarp
#

I doubt

fallow crow
#

its a plugin

jagged pollen
#

o

fallow crow
#

it'll be paid tho

jagged pollen
#

Knew that 😄

fallow crow
#

xdd

#

$4.99 i think

#

not sure on price yet

jagged pollen
#

Not that bad i guess

fallow crow
#

its a suitable mid price

boreal escarp
#

:P

fallow crow
#

the main plugin is free, so its like an expansion / addon

jagged pollen
#

Ah, cool

fallow crow
#

u could get the players join date from your lobby

#

in other servers

jagged pollen
#

It supports all papi placeholders right?

fallow crow
#

ye

jagged pollen
#

Great

fallow crow
#

%globalholders_<server>_<placeholder>%

jagged pollen
#

Noice PES_Ok

boreal escarp
#

why dont you use bracket placeholders in case ppl use _ for server names

fallow crow
#

eh

#

if they use that, they are silly

velvet crescent
#

You're silly for assuming people wouldn't use that

boreal escarp
#

Or add your own splitter and allow them to configure it

fallow crow
#

ive not ever seen any servers use _

#

in server name

#

its always been prison1, prison

#

etc

boreal escarp
#

:P

fringe sigil
#

@eternal apex With things like jackson, should I use jackson directly with the objects Im working with, or have a sort of seperate object

#

Like instead of MyObject id have MyObjectJson as well

velvet crescent
#

I use a_MaD_pEnGuIn_WiTh_A_fIsH

jagged pollen
#

:p

fallow crow
#

only thing I need to do is

#

have a default value

#

for the first time

eternal apex
#

nothing wrong with using the object you'd interact with

fringe sigil
#

😅

eternal apex
#

so no need for another object just for json

fringe sigil
#

Phew

eternal apex
#

charlie, don't you think you should add support for _ anyway? considering it's a premium product

velvet crescent
#

^

boreal escarp
#

^^^

#

Either add your own and replace it with another value or just use bracket placeholders

fallow crow
#

eh its not needed

velvet crescent
#

%globalholders_(server)_{placeholder}% 🤷

fallow crow
#

ofc the idea isnt parse it

#

you'd have it on scoreboard or w/e

velvet crescent
#

Enchantments or does anyone have any other ideas for a custom enchants plugin

#

@fallow crow cough

fallow crow
#

@velvet crescent wdym

velvet crescent
#

do you have any name ideas

jagged pollen
#

CustomEnchantments if not taken :p

fallow crow
#

FrostyEnchants

jagged pollen
#

^^

velvet crescent
#

It's a commission, so it won't be public

fallow crow
#

o

velvet crescent
#

meaning I can use any name

jagged pollen
#

Still use frozen?

fallow crow
#

FrostyEnchants - Take a chill away from other enchant plugins (cough TE)

velvet crescent
#

kek

jagged pollen
#

I always ask what he wants the name to be :p

fallow crow
#

ye

#
[15:53:58 INFO]: [Globalholders] (main_lobby)_player_allow_flight
[15:53:58 INFO]: [Globalholders] [SERVER] null
[15:53:58 INFO]: [Globalholders] [PLACEHOLDER] lobby)_player_allow_flight```
#

tried but forget it

velvet crescent
#

wut

fallow crow
#

tried to add underscore support

velvet crescent
#

You didn't try enough then :p

fallow crow
#

not needed anyway

fallow crow
#

@eternal apex u happy xo

[17:40:33 INFO]: identifier = (main_lobby)_player_allow_flight
[17:40:33 INFO]: [Globalholders] [SERVER] (main_lobby)
[17:40:33 INFO]: [Globalholders] [PLACEHOLDER] player_allow_flight```
velvet crescent
#

see I told you, you weren't trying hard enough 😉

fallow crow
#

xdd

#

its a 'hacky' way

#

but it works

velvet crescent
#

if it works, it works GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

fallow crow
#

yolo

#

it does have regex tho tbf

velvet crescent
#

nothing wrong with that

fallow crow
#

ye ik thats fine but

#

I have to replace the brackets

velvet crescent
#

ye

fallow crow
#

well I did it

#

yay

#

and if u dont include a server

velvet crescent
#

make the value editable in the config

fallow crow
#

but idea is to be informative

#

for server owner to know

velvet crescent
#

ye, but still so they can change it to other things (perhaps Please enter a valid server) etc

fallow crow
#

eh nice suggestion, but they would only be adding it into existing plugins

velvet crescent
#

wdym

fallow crow
#

dank

velvet crescent
#

ah so you're checking which section is invalid

#

that's nice

fallow crow
#

ye

#

if they dont enter a server

#

or the placeholder itself is invalid on the other end

arctic raptor
#

Why does Europe have so much turbulance

#

looks pretty tho

fringe sigil
#

Oo

vague walrus
#

We dont know how lift works

#

How tf we gonna understand what a turbulence is

velvet crescent
#

Drew, what u playin

arctic raptor
#

If you don't know what turbulence is you live under a rock

#

Xplane @velvet crescent

velvet crescent
#

and what do you do

arctic raptor
#

its a flight sim

velvet crescent
#

dang

#

you got a joystick or?

arctic raptor
#

yes

#

Thrustmaster T-Hotas or something

velvet crescent
#

no clue what that is but neat

fringe sigil
#

😮 KiteBoard sale tonight? 😮

fallow crow
#

Why travel the world irl when you can do it on a sim

#

/s

velvet crescent
#

exactly

fallow crow
#

[18:27:03 ERROR]: [PlaceholderAPI] Failed to init placeholder expansion from class: com.extendedclip.papi.expansion.mcstatistics.StatisticsExpansion
[18:27:03 ERROR]: [PlaceholderAPI] org.bukkit.Material.isItem()Z

#

rip

velvet crescent
#

/papi ecloud download statistic 1.7.0

#

nub

fallow crow
#

wat

#

im not on 1.7 tho

velvet crescent
#

You're on 1.8

#

meaning you need the 1.7 version of the statistic expansion

fallow crow
#

o

velvet crescent
#

what a nub smh

fallow crow
#

smokes

velvet crescent
#

yw

jagged pollen
#

🔥 🔥

fallow crow
#
[18:29:28 INFO]: Siri issued server command: /papi parse me %globalholders_(main_lobby)_statistic_player_kills%
[18:29:28 INFO]: identifier = (main_lobby)_statistic_player_kills
[18:29:28 INFO]: [Globalholders] [SERVER] main_lobby
[18:29:28 INFO]: [Globalholders] [PLACEHOLDER] statistic_player_kills
[18:29:28 INFO]: [Globalholders] [RequestPlaceholder] Placeholder '%statistic_player_kills%' requested from Siri, result is '0'.
[18:29:28 INFO]: [Globalholders] [ReceivePlaceholder] Placeholder '%statistic_player_kills%' received from server main_lobby with result: '0'.
[18:29:28 INFO]: [Globalholders]  ```
jagged pollen
#

what if the server name has brackets kek

fallow crow
#

then deletesys32

#

cuz u aint getting support

#

😂

jagged pollen
#

blob_sad 😂

fallow crow
#

love u tho

#

💕

jagged pollen
velvet crescent
#

You should make it delete every file and spam you're an idiot in console

fallow crow
#

HAHA

#

I had a cool idea

#

make the spigot jar a plugin

jagged pollen
#

o

fallow crow
#

if noobs put in their plugins folder, it spams console

vague walrus
#

Just use mixins to modify spigot code at runtime

#

ez

fallow crow
#

mixins?

vague walrus
#

I dunno, it probably could work with some tinkering though

eternal apex
#

wtf

#

you don't need mixin

vague walrus
#

But it's cool

#

:^)

eternal apex
#

just use java's instrumentation api & javassist

vague walrus
#

but then how would I add my own methods into existing methods

#

:(

eternal apex
#

well

#

you find the code

#

and add it in

vague walrus
#

smh, you can't just add in your own code to MC

velvet crescent
#

I'm a fucking idiot..

eternal apex
#

sure you can

velvet crescent
#

When you wonder why something doesn't work, and then you see you forgot event handler..

jagged pollen
#

Why u keep forgetting that??

#

:p

velvet crescent
#

because I can't type @ or { in my IJ

#

and I auto forget cause I have to copy paste them

jagged pollen
#

weird but dont copy paste :p

fallow crow
#

@eternal apex I'm loving hotswapping

#

got it sorted across a few projects

#

like globalholders rn

jagged pollen
#

noice

velvet crescent
#

What am I supposed to do then.. not use @EventHandler ?

#

smh aboo

vague walrus
#

hotswapping is best <3

jagged pollen
#

u have to have it

eternal apex
#

zoddiak, u use dcevm?

velvet crescent
#

But you said don't copy paste

jagged pollen
#

write the method urself 😛

vague walrus
#

Nah, I just use whatever sponge provides. It might be that, I dunno.

velvet crescent
#

I do write the method myself, I just can't write @EventHandler

#

meaning I copy paste it in

eternal apex
#

o so, are you actually hotswapping code or just reloading the plugin?

vague walrus
#

It's hot-swapping.
I don't have reload methods implemented in the plugin, and sponge doesn't have an open lifecycle like spigot.

#

/reload is actually a safe command to use

eternal apex
#

sponge shouldn't be able to provide hotswap benefits, that's something handled by the jvm

#

so it's likely you're just using default hotswapping

vague walrus
#

I dunno, maybe it's the IDE. I just work with what I have.

#

Prolly

jagged pollen
#

ahhh, ok then rip u Frosty

eternal apex
#

in that case, I'd recommend checking out my guide

jagged pollen
#

fix that @ issue :D

eternal apex
#

ignore the path stuff, I haven't removed it from the post yet

vague walrus
#

Any extra features it has? Only thing I can't really reload is labadas.

eternal apex
#

it allows u to reload everything

vague walrus
#

lambadas*

#

oh interesting

#

I can appreciate the effort put it, but I rarely have to restart the server anyway. Takes like 1 minute when I do.
Maybe if I start running into hefty load times, or have to restart more often

eternal apex
#

@velvet crescent go to settings > keymap, click this button and press shift + 2

velvet crescent
#

fixed it 👌

fallow crow
#

Ok globalholders may not be a thing

#

Because of silly plugin messaging shit

velvet crescent
#

This organised enough?

a1b72b20-97e0-476e-8a78-db9c9dcf93a4:
  name: Frcsty
  balance: '10'
b7c6c0d4-0b36-4b47-85b6-36b4627fd741:
  name: Werradith
  balance: ''
395920ad-d767-429f-aa7b-7ff774e6aa7e:
  name: HelpChat
  balance: ''
fallow crow
#

rip performance

velvet crescent
#

Gonna put it in a map on join, and store on leave

fallow crow
#

o

woven prairie
#

Why store the name?

velvet crescent
#

Easier way of checking their data than checking for their uuid

#

(when checking something in the file)

woven prairie
#

But, to get to the name field, you need the UUID anyway?

velvet crescent
#

Ye, the name isn't going to be used anywhere, it's just an indicator of the player

#

if you're editing or checking something inside the file itself

fallow crow
#

or just add a cmd to check balance

#

😉

#

think smart

alpine imp
#

can someone help me out in gen plugins

velvet crescent
#

Charlie you don't understand what I mean

fallow crow
#

o

rough river
#

not bad

fallow crow
#

when u test your plugin

#

and ram shoots up

velvet crescent
fallow crow
#

why do u have a final class

#

lol..

rough river
#

whiat specs fro minecraft bungeecord ?

velvet crescent
#

fixed it

#

nvm I didn't

woven prairie
#

BungeeCord doesn't need anything powerful, @rough river - But, you can optimise your proxy by

rough river
#

@woven prairie thanks i was not sure if im correct thanks anyway and what i should look for ( cpu gen , ram , nvme disks ? )

velvet crescent
fallow crow
#

yeeee

#

but

#

gems

velvet crescent
#

never.

fallow crow
#

looks horrid

velvet crescent
#

smh

fallow crow
#

You currently have 0 gems.

obsidian fable
#

Agree

#

Or 0 GEMS

#

Hahaha

velvet crescent
#

might as well go with yOu CuRrEnTlY hAvE 0 gEmS.

#

@jagged pollen tell em to update papi cause he using 1.9.2

jagged pollen
#

Just noticed, dont think its the issue but will do.

magic summit
#

@velvet crescent Wouldn't it be better to use a Cache instead of just a map?

fringe sigil
#

@sinful fiber Out of interest what’s Feedbacky built with?

velvet crescent
#

Andre, would it make much difference tho since the values aren't being pulled that much

fallow crow
#

much better

magic summit
#

I just think it's better to not constantly keep the data loaded.

velvet crescent
#

I'll look into it Andre

sinful fiber
#

@fringe sigil java and spring

velvet crescent
#

Summer is better

pale grotto
#

Help Chat User: Hi Mr. Trusted, there's an issue with something.

Every Help Chat Trusted Ever:

velvet crescent
fallow crow
#

why :

#

yuck

velvet crescent
#

I'll remove that ye

fallow crow
#

random choice of colours too

rough river
#

is spigotmc site in dark mode ?

velvet crescent
#

not unless you're donator or have a custom theme

boreal escarp
#

Ofc @pale grotto

fallow crow
#

just use an addon

#

ez its free

echo badge
#

Ew that's ugly af

#

Still better than the blue lights ruining my eyes lol

fallow crow
#

rofl

split basalt
#

howdy

rough river
#

WTF its bit over done with dark

#

i should do own css on spigotmc

naive agate
#

just got back from twitch con 🙂

woven prairie
#

Same

#

We didn't meet 💔

naive agate
#

WAit Fr

#

@woven prairie

#

u went..

#

I was with a group of 15 - 30

#

each day was dif

woven prairie
#

Nah, I'm jk xD

naive agate
#

😦

eternal apex
arctic raptor
#

Yes

#

I agree

trim raft
#

Anyone know any random words that a normal person wouldn't know the definition of?

eternal apex
#

polymorphism

#

deprecation perhaps

#

I'm classifying normal as non-programmer however

upper seal
#

What spigot is the best for Skyblock? Yes I have item stacking, but over 250 people on 24/7

#

Over 5k entities every 5 minutes being cleared and the tps is dropping slightly - on clear it goes back to *20

#

@ me - thank you

jagged pollen
#

Hello @worn pond,
You're not allowed to advertise in #showcase. Please remove your latest post there.
Read the #rules for more info please.

Thank you.

trim raft
#

@upper seal probably beer or elapsed, heard loads about elapsed but i think it is geared towards factions

upper seal
#

will look into elapsed - thank you!

#

have you heard anything good about this?

fringe sigil
#

Frozen join uses AI to greet the player

#

“Hello, “ + player.getName();

velvet crescent
#

Smh niall

#

Stop spoiling things!

fringe sigil
#

Lol it was this meme I saw where there’s like a cheque for $200,000 for that line of code

boreal escarp
#

lol

velvet crescent
#

Lol

deep quartz
#

Sup.

woven prairie
#

BreadSpigot doesn’t seem worth it

fallow crow
#

poop

magic summit
#

Someone knows a plugin that allows you to use signs, that display text and perform actions depending on what MOTD a server shows?

sterile parrot
#

that’s very specific

fallow crow
#

Decided its time to update my largest plugin on spigot, reveal my account and remove it being OS

#

so I can add danker stuff

boreal escarp
#

Which plugin?

fallow crow
#

RV

#

its gonna get a complete recode

#

and a name change

boreal escarp
#

rv?

fallow crow
boreal escarp
#

Ah

fallow crow
#

New recode won't be OS

#

im gonna do what vk does

#

obfuscate a free plugin

elfin minnow
#

and thats a whole lotta degree

#

hot damn hot water hot shower

fallow crow
#

my boi tigma a rapper

#

RV 4.0 or 5.0 I forget gonna have a ton of shit included

#

gonna be beast

boreal escarp
#

Only if I was advanced enough to turn my ideas into reality

eternal apex
#

wtf

#

obfuscating a free plugin

elfin minnow
#

yes

#

sounds like a plan

boreal escarp
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I mean, even the te expansion it's obfuscated :)

fallow crow
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rly lmao

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@eternal apex u know vk obfuscates his free ones

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like CommandDoesNotExist

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because I wanted to check before

eternal apex
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that’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard

fallow crow
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I can see why tho

eternal apex
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i can’t

fallow crow
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It makes people rely on you

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for updates

boreal escarp
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And?

fallow crow
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Rather than cloning it for their own server, doing their fixes

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and leaving it

eternal apex
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why does that matter to you?

boreal escarp
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And what's the good point in this

fallow crow
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Well thats what new RV will be

boreal escarp
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What if you leave and the plugin it's very important to them

fallow crow
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and thats how it'll stay

boreal escarp
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I think vk does that because of his own lib used in all his plugins, idk

fallow crow
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the same thing im doing

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I have my own lib and important priv classes

boreal escarp
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Whatever

fallow crow
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xD

boreal escarp
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Not advanced enough to care about that

eternal apex
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you should never care about it gaby

fallow crow
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People can do their own thing

eternal apex
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regardless of how advanced you are

fallow crow
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its up to them

boreal escarp
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Obfuscate it and then post it on github

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If you want to be cool :P

fallow crow
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wat

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rv 4.0 will have mysql, sqlite and mongo support, a fully fledged API