off-topic

[velvet crescent]

I mean that's true, but still I'd preffer an actual course (not mineacademy shit) over some indian guy explaining random things..

[sterile parrot]

yeah and I hate courses

[jagged pollen]

Buying a course isnt bad tho imo

[sterile parrot]

so I prefer docs and source code over a course

[jagged pollen]

if u can

And i u want

[vague walrus]

I literally had no knowledge and i now am able to work with maps, arrays, collections, lambada, custom data (sponge), it's just a matter of doing it

[velvet crescent]

You gotta learn how to do it first tho

[sterile parrot]

it isn’t about working with maps though

it is logical thinking

[jagged pollen]

^^

[sterile parrot]

following principles, knowing what you are doing

[vague walrus]

It's not that hard honestly

Just look at code

[jagged pollen]

Yea

[sterile parrot]

it takes time

and work

[jagged pollen]

Ive learnt basic java from nothing but googling

[velvet crescent]

I'm not going to respond as I'd probably say something not so nice..

[boreal escarp]

Tbh you need to look at someone's code that isnt advanced :))

[vague walrus]

I literally had no background in progprogramming I'm aware of the time it takes.

[boreal escarp]

Eg I understand nothing from lemmo's code

[velvet crescent]

Gaby, kek

[boreal escarp]

And he keep telling me to look at it for X smh

xD

[sterile parrot]

:p

[vague walrus]

annotations still scare me

[velvet crescent]

Buying the course, will let you all know if it has tought me anything

[jagged pollen]

Gl 😁

[sterile parrot]

what is scary about annotations

[boreal escarp]

Hf xD

[velvet crescent]

Also Zoddiak, you should look at Niall's code if you're scared of annotations

[echo badge]

I still see lemmo's profile picture and think it's fiona from shrek.. idk why

[boreal escarp]

Everything

[velvet crescent]

@Bean

[sterile parrot]

lmao

[velvet crescent]

[sterile parrot]

acf is scarier then

[vague walrus]

Just not knowing what they do for the most part.

I use them in my code for my config

Configurate ftw

[sterile parrot]

but yes spring uses a lot of annotations

[vague walrus]

Tf is spring

[velvet crescent]

Summer is better

[boreal escarp]

A season

[sterile parrot]

mvc framework for java

[velvet crescent]

h3r3 w3 g0

[vague walrus]

I dont touch it directly then lol

[fringe sigil]

This is how I ranked my self:
2014-2015 basic knowledge, putting stuff together with trial and error

2015-2016 getting the hang of it nicely

[velvet crescent]

2019 using an alien language

[fringe sigil]

2018- getting the hang of it better

2019- following principles and all that basically applying logical thinking to anything I want with what I know

Basically I can make whatever I want

Even then I still ask about a lot of stuff

Mainly design and structure

(written, not Ui)

[vague walrus]

Just design it with the hindenburg in mind

[fringe sigil]

@velvet crescent @Bean

[velvet crescent]

@Bean

[vague walrus]

Bean there done that

[sterile parrot]

lmao

[fallow crow]

@velvet crescent frozenspoof

[velvet crescent]

@kindred inlet Just a quick note, for the things you listed I don't think $50 is anywhere near the value of it

[kindred inlet]

ill edit then

thanks for the heads up, idk, a few lines on a paper, seems hardly that expensive, but what can i say, cant even draw stick figures properly xD

what would be a decent price? 😮

xD

[vague walrus]

It's a lot more you're paying for tbh

Consider this: Why don't you do it

[kindred inlet]

that is correct, because my skillset doesnt include drawing 🙂

[vague walrus]

It's the time they put into being talented enough to offer those services. 😉

[kindred inlet]

you are right about that 🙂

noticed i had put plural "s" on everything, i am looking for 1 of each, so corrected that too 🙂

thanks for the heads up, its much appreciated

[elfin minnow]

@fallow crow friday is almost here

[vague walrus]

but it was Friday just last week!

[elfin minnow]

dont care

i want this friday

the 20tg

[fallow crow]

@elfin minnow so is saturday bro!!!

[fair island]

when you press every button to try and open up a menu but you find out it was a command to open it. Yeah, I'm dumb.

[fringe sigil]

Whew, renewed my jetbrains license

[vague walrus]

Imagine paying for anything

Imagine having money 😢

[fallow crow]

imagine owning capes

[magic summit]

Imagine having a custom LabyMod cape, but for some reason is it no longer available for you....

[fallow crow]

HAHA

[magic summit]

I also had a custom 5Zig mod cape, but the dev stoped updating it ;-;

Also, this doesn't work either ;-;

Well.... Now it does

[fallow crow]

Woah you can light up your keyboard using it!

[magic summit]

5zig had a lot more

It afaik was even before LabyMod

Many claim that Laby even copied their stuff

no idea tho

Since 5zig is gone I have to wait for Laby to update for 1.14

@sinful fiber Seems like LabyMod uses your Feedbacky :D
https://www.labymod.net/ideas

At least I assume this is feedbacky

[velvet crescent]

Andre, I have a ur bad cape <o/

[magic summit]

Probably not tho

There we go @fallow crow

Just needed to reset my account xP

[fallow crow]

Wow

[jagged pollen]

ive bought an optifine cape twice and got scammed in both

[magic summit]

And I of course also spend money on HiveMC

[sinful fiber]

um no it's not even my design or literally anything that looks similar to https://feedbacky.net

but anyway

[magic summit]

I may think about using it when I finally make a website for my network.... I already have a domain, so....

I use .games

Because why not xP

Also, I like that spawn, even tho it still looks a bit empty

I'm currently wondering if it is possible to make a plugin that posts stats on a database and generate a link to then see those stats on a site....
Would probs be difficult af so nothing I could do xP

[fallow crow]

Oo good idea 😮

[magic summit]

yeah

Make a plugin and sell it xP

I would by

But should support multiple games already

And have an API to add some...

But yeah... Would be a system like it is on HiveMC and Hypixel iirc

[trim raft]

like hypixel skywars...

cool!

[magic summit]

I suck at coding so badly... Especially at website and database stuff

So I won't be able to make it xP

[fallow crow]

Would be cool as fuck, though leaderheads basically does that

[boreal escarp]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/leaderheads-web-add-on.16276/

[magic summit]

Yeah but I don't think it would only show the stats of the game you played...
Like you go to https://yourdomain.com/mygame/:id and it would show the stats of game :id

[woven prairie]

Display PAPI placeholders on a site 😮

[arctic raptor]

oo

[fading orbit]

I mean, stuff like that ain't really too hard, tbh

The hardest part is really in the design, tbh

[magic summit]

true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/275054291360940032/623279703662264336/43c6a04e0f3337eb11fbe5ac168ddaacc53c1644b5f8d4531f5992b106a3fa6e_1.jpg2.jpg

This honestly made me feel kinda better

[boreal escarp]

😻

[fading orbit]

One thing I wanna do for my server is record deaths and stuff into a db, some intent to create a page for those kinda stats, especially as I'll also be shoving rp cards there too; hmm

[fallow crow]

Could look into the stats into a database system with a link potentially, just need to know what to support.

Would have to be a free plugin ofc as premium plugins require the ability to work without a internet connection.

[vague walrus]

Pretty sure that already exists Andre

https://ore.spongepowered.org/Rsl1122/Plan
Exists on spigot as well

Not quite other games, but for something that like you'd probably just have your games dump info into a db, and have your website pull the data and do stuff with it, rather than the plugin.

[fallow crow]

For it to support placeholders api you'd likely need to make the calls to the server and back to the website for it to update when the site is loading.

Issue would be that it wouldn't be accessible for offline players I don't think with papi.

[vague walrus]

I don't see the point in a stats plugin supporting Papi tbh, if you're using papi, you're displaying those stats ingame from other plugins providing them.

[fading orbit]

For placeholder support, you'd be better off just pooping the converted strings into the db, otherwise it's not really going to work given that plugins don't expect to parse strings for offline players

[vague walrus]

Does spigot not use an offline player cache?

Simple uuid -> name mapping

err

name -> uuid

[fallow crow]

Yeah just make a placeholder cache table,

ID | UUID | PLACEHOLDER | VARIABLE | LAST UPDATED

[vague walrus]

ID?

[fallow crow]

And it does, Bukkit.getOfflinePlayer

[vague walrus]

What's ID for?

[fallow crow]

Yeah the auto id

Where it increments

[vague walrus]

I'm confused as to why it needs incrementing I guess?

[magic summit]

I just found something (maybe) useful.
Starting a message with /shrug, /tableflip or /unflip adds the emoticon at the end of the message

Whew (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[vague walrus]

That's crazy ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

[magic summit]

and stupid I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal apex]

you used to be able to put it anywhere (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

sometimes at least

was a bit glitchy

[vague walrus]

Why can't I @someone anymore

[elfin minnow]

shush ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vague walrus]

😦

[fallow crow]

I thought it always went at end

test /shrug

Yeah

(As in it would add the emoticon thing to end of your message after command)

[agile moss]

you do /shrug test

test ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[opaque thistle]

yoo @fringe sigil pls accept friend request so i can dm

[arctic raptor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[velvet crescent]

[boreal escarp]

Is spotify down or smth?

[velvet crescent]

@boreal escarp Gotta say, this dude actually explains everything

[sinful fiber]

@magic summit looking forward it :) just DM me once you decide to get a project for feedbacky

[magic summit]

@velvet crescent From where is that?

[velvet crescent]

#ecloud-updates

@EventHandler
public void onLeave(PlayerLeaveEvent e) {
  e.setCancelled(true);
}

@fallow crow Best way to keep players :p

[magic summit]

Oh god....

[velvet crescent]

Andre you should sue this

@EventHandler
public void onDDoS(DDoSEvent event) {
    if (event.getDDoS().isActive()) {
        event.setCancelled(true);
    }
}

[magic summit]

Also, plugin is called AutoSaveWorld, but placeholder is %autosaver%.
Songoda realy can't follow common naming

[boreal escarp]

What frosty?

[velvet crescent]

the course

[boreal escarp]

Nice

[fringe sigil]

Would you say it’s recommended to put your GitHub on a CV?

Also would open sourcing my high quality projects such as KiteBoard enrich my GitHub Profile

[velvet crescent]

I like the word selection there 😏 "high quality"

[fringe sigil]

state of the art, unmatched, (2nd)best on the market

[velvet crescent]

Indeed

wdym 2nd smh

[fringe sigil]

Featherboard is more advanced overall, KiteBoard advances in certain areas

[velvet crescent]

kiteboard still better ❤

[jade oasis]

kiteboard is better due to it not requiring mvdw's placeholder shit

[fallow crow]

Since I started cancelling the PlayerQuitEvent if they aren’t a donator

I’m winning

[velvet crescent]

lol

Why do you think hypixel has this many players, they're just canceling the leave event .p

:p*

[fallow crow]

^^

If not VIP => you ain’t leaving my turf, kid

[boreal escarp]

Imagine if that was a thing lol xD

[fallow crow]

Hahaha would defo be funny

[river trench]

Anyone on Songoda's discord and saw what happened lol

[eternal apex]

one of their bots got hacked

gave everyone admin

they were trying to keep it quiet, then some wise guy tagged everyone

[river trench]

damn

[velvet crescent]

Was gonna say something but I'm not cuz there's some songoda fans in here

[jade oasis]

doubt it

[velvet crescent]

I'm confused by spigot rn..

Scholtes go download FJ and tell me what jar it downloads

[sterile parrot]

asking for downloads hmm

[velvet crescent]

No... Spigot is trash and it downloads the wrong jar for me, hence I'm asking what jar it downloads for other people

[sterile parrot]

it is a joke

but odd

[woven prairie]

@tired garden Did you get your voting thing sorted?

[tired garden]

Maybe. I’ll let you know if I don’t.

[fallow crow]

[woven prairie]

Am I a pro web dev? https://skyblock.dev/

[eternal apex]

is it gonna be os tho

because if it's not os, it doesn't quite match the dream you assumed I have

[velvet crescent]

It's dreamt of

[woven prairie]

shh

It'll be semi OS

[eternal apex]

semi?

[velvet crescent]

just trynna help

[woven prairie]

Dreamed and dreamt each form the past tense and past participle of the verb dream. They are both correct, but dreamed is more common in both British and American English.

Like, it's based on Providers.

So, the actual plugin/core will be Premium. But, it won't work without a Provider, and the official Providers will be OS

So, you can essentially do whatever tf you want with the plugin - But, at very least, it'll be like https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/island-world-⚡-1-14-support-⚡-best-skyblock-plugin-⚡.63803/

[eternal apex]

ie a license system with the licensing portion removed from the os code, or did I misinterpret that entirely?

[velvet crescent]

will it be on MCP?

[eternal apex]

please stop using that abbreviation oof

[woven prairie]

Not really xD

Think of it like PAPI - You'll buy PAPI, but PAPI is rather useless without the expansions

[eternal apex]

ah ok

[woven prairie]

So, you're buying a classic SkyBlock plugin, and then using either the official Providers, or making your own

The official ones offer all the basic stuff every sb plugin and most servers have

[eternal apex]

How do you plan to execute the providers, and how are you going to add them to the classpath?

just curious, because my own jar loader library runs URLClassLoader#invoke via reflection, then scans the jar with a JarInputStream, testing each class via Class.forName() till it finds a match, something tells me that isn't exactly great for performance though.

just curious, because my own jar loader library runs URLClassLoader#invoke via reflection, then scans the jar with a JarInputStream, testing each class via Class.forName() till it finds a match, something tells me that isn't exactly great for performance though.

[velvet crescent]

mAgIc

[eternal apex]

just curious, because my own jar loader library runs URLClassLoader#addURL via reflection, then scans the jar with a JarInputStream, testing each class via Class.forName() till it finds a match. Something tells me that isn't exactly great for performance though.

Could probably do that a lot more efficiently with an embedded file like spigot's plugin.yml, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fallow crow]

hopefully he adds to MCP

[muted fern]

@fallow crow don't abuse the report system

[fallow crow]

@muted fern okey😂❤️

[fallow crow]

It's not funny tho

[velvet crescent]

Holy shit, adam's alive

[split basalt]

Wait fuck back to the shadows

[velvet crescent]

y u leave me

[boreal escarp]

art

[velvet crescent]

Indeed

[split basalt]

Thx

I heavily dislike the new activity tab

Vat iz dish

[velvet crescent]

Gaby, what u think of this new design 😏 https://mcplugins.io/resources/frozen-join.25/

[boreal escarp]

are you on canary adam?

Because it looks the same for me for a few months

[split basalt]

Nope but my old laptop was on canary

Haven't been arsed to get canary (((yet)))

[velvet crescent]

so gaby

[split basalt]

Yours is different b

Mine has suggested servers for some reason

[velvet crescent]

cuz gaby doesn't watch hentai and you do?

[boreal escarp]

not but but those lines are pixeled

[split basalt]

Hol up

[boreal escarp]

here adam https://i.imgur.com/8FtdFkl.png

@velvet crescent win activated ✅

[velvet crescent]

Mine still isn't :p

Also clear ur notifications or mute the server

[boreal escarp]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

It's just that white semicircle, I dont get any notifications from those server

[split basalt]

I have that too at the bottom of my server list

[velvet crescent]

That's annoying :p atleast for me

[split basalt]

So weird lmfao

[velvet crescent]

clean af

[split basalt]

Win7 gang

[velvet crescent]

yup

[split basalt]

[velvet crescent]

Phisically can't upgrade to win 10

or however you spell that shit

[split basalt]

Feels bad

Psychology

Physiotherapy

[velvet crescent]

I'm a lazy person, so I don't ever need that word

[split basalt]

whimsical

[velvet crescent]

stfuical

[fallow crow]

Getting mad subscribers now on spoof

And I have no clue who any of them are

[jagged pollen]

ok that's good? :P

[velvet crescent]

aBoo, wanna give me a hand?

[fallow crow]

Yeah it’s good

It’s nice to have some

[velvet crescent]

It's nice to pay for your trash phone innit

[fallow crow]

Shh good phone you mean

I mean 5 subs a month pays for it

[velvet crescent]

Wanna order me a phone? ktnx bb

[jagged pollen]

What do u want?

[velvet crescent]

Could you try downloading FJ from spigot and tell me what version it downloads

[fallow crow]

He wants the FrozenPhone

[velvet crescent]

fuck no Charlie

Even if you bought it for me I wouldn't use that shit lol

[fair island]

Hi

Spoof when

[jagged pollen]

@velvet crescent FrozenJoin.1.0.jar

[velvet crescent]

I sometimes hate spigot..

[fallow crow]

@velvet crescent I’m sure you would use it

If you got one xd

[velvet crescent]

I actually wouldn't

I'd just sell it and buy myself a different phone

[fallow crow]

Geez why

[jagged pollen]

oof

[fallow crow]

If I got given a brand new iPhone I’d be like fuck yeah

[jagged pollen]

^^

[fallow crow]

And from what you told me you said your current phone is slow or whatever, surely you’d just keep it as a huge upgrade knowing you’ve got a flagship phone

[jagged pollen]

Try updating the plugin without adding change log and then delete the current version frosty

[rose bloom]

can someone help me in #general-plugins

?

[fallow crow]

@leaden sandal NOTE: If you want your public ban system featured and added as a dependency on this plugin

bans.io soon™

[naive barn]

issue with public bans is that people can abuse them

you either have a really smart anti false ban system or you ban real players

thus, if you for example use bans.io and some competitor wants you down, he creates a fake server and bans everyone on your server

[fallow crow]

ye my idea for my site (when I do it) is to only give access to a few trusted friends

in order to populate the db

[fringe sigil]

Or maybe it could require multiple people to “flag” a user and if there are a certain amount of flags = global ban

E.g if multiple servers are banning the same player individually then global ban

I guess even then that could be fooled

[fallow crow]

ye

if you just give access to certain people

you could be gucci

[tired garden]

@leaden sandal you should add images to your resource page.

[fringe sigil]

fuck sake

connecting train was cancelled

[fallow crow]

Is that a train you take(

?

[fringe sigil]

yes

and I could of stayed on the one I was on and taken one the opposite direction

Would have saved me 30mins

And I checked that earlier so why didn’t I

Bruh

SWR ARE GONNA PAYVOF RTHIS

literally, I will get a refund

[boreal escarp]

just hack into their system as you said last year ez

[fringe sigil]

Nah

It’s not their fault people ain’t turning up for work

• I’m no black hat

[leaden sandal]

@fallow crow 👀 dm me once it releases ❤️ @tired garden I will be buying a thread design for the plugin soon once it fully releases with at least 2-3 dependencies!

[fallow crow]

@leaden sandal hype 👀 welcome to add your plugins (if they are high quality) to this new site

[boreal escarp]

ik, jk niall

[fallow crow]

Mcplugins.io I heard it’s fire

[leaden sandal]

Bet ty

[fringe sigil]

Yeah, like that site as well

[fallow crow]

^

[jagged pollen]

Its da best

[leaden sandal]

I like the website. 10/10

[sterile parrot]

https://haveibeenpwned.com/PwnedWebsites#Minehut

minehut is absolute garbage

and this proves my point once more.

[boreal escarp]

f

[fallow crow]

@leaden sandal cheers bro

[jagged pollen]

Lemon did u see my dm?

[boreal escarp]

😹

[fringe sigil]

Oof

[leaden sandal]

Charlie you own it?

[magic summit]

There's legit "emojicode"

[fringe sigil]

I took a serious stance on security since being pwned

[magic summit]

@leaden sandal yes he owns mcplugins.io

[velvet crescent]

oh fuck

[leaden sandal]

That cool 😎

[velvet crescent]

why tf....

@fringe sigil

[fringe sigil]

LOL

[velvet crescent]

we boutta get yelled at

[fringe sigil]

we?

[jagged pollen]

lol

[velvet crescent]

yes we!

[jagged pollen]

@bean

[velvet crescent]

@bronze compassn

Like wtf

[fringe sigil]

Stop tagging lol

[vague walrus]

@bronze compassN

damn wtf

It always comes up with users when doing that

[fading orbit]

@Bean

ez

[vague walrus]

@bean

[fading orbit]

@bronze compassn

[velvet crescent]

@bronze compassn

[fading orbit]

lol

[velvet crescent]

They fucked it so hard..

[fading orbit]

Dumcord for ya

[fallow crow]

@leaden sandal yeah I own it aha, wanted to make my own site that features high quality products from people

Not just allow low quality shit like spigot does

[leaden sandal]

Smart

[vague walrus]

Sounds like you'd have a very minimal set of plugins

[velvet crescent]

You should go download resource 25 😉

[fringe sigil]

Spring question

Ant matcher for a path and all files / subdirectories?

[fallow crow]

@vague walrus HAHA

tbf

we would rather minimal if it means showing devs who truly care

we want the best of the best#

[vague walrus]

My point really being. Who decides, what's your criteria, and can we trust that you're not accepting bribes for publishing

[fallow crow]

Oh

We look for plugins that are presented well, professional and are documentated

[sterile parrot]

so shit code is allowed basically lol

[vague walrus]

^

[boreal escarp]

lmao

[jagged pollen]

lmao lemon

[sterile parrot]

most quality plugins are not presented well

good devs don’t care much about aesthetics

[fringe sigil]

Lemmo

Spring question
Ant matcher for a path and all files / subdirectories?

[boreal escarp]

I mean, lemmo's plugin pages looks not the best but the code it's 🔥

[sterile parrot]

@fringe sigil wdym?

[vague walrus]

Luckperms looks great 😎

[sterile parrot]

most good devs don’t do it for money or anything just for doing it lol

[boreal escarp]

haha

[naive barn]

@fallow crow don't advertise third person. Be honest that you own it and give reasons why it's better than competitors

[jagged pollen]

Aka lemmon

[sterile parrot]

and I completely agree with that ^^

no not me smh

[velvet crescent]

public void onDDoS(ServerDDoSEvent e) {
  if (e.isActive(true)) {
    e.setCancelled(true);
  }
}

Here you go some 🔥 code

[sterile parrot]

I’m not high quality

[jagged pollen]

Shh

[boreal escarp]

lemmo does it because he's cool

[jagged pollen]

Pls

[sterile parrot]

I’m not bad but not good either

[boreal escarp]

comparative to the best devs maybe not, but you are over many devs from this community and not only 😛 noob

[jagged pollen]

Maybe good but not the best, yea

[fading orbit]

I mean, this community...

Like, low bars and all

😛

[sterile parrot]

this community is like lowest of lowest

[boreal escarp]

haha see the and not only xD

[fallow crow]

@naive barn eh i would tell people if they asked, but its better to say it third person

[naive barn]

for the persuasion, yes. IT feels like you aren't biased

[fallow crow]

and code quality does come into it

[naive barn]

but it's really fishy

[sterile parrot]

it’s really sly lol

[fallow crow]

I don't feel it is, I'm giving my opinion on the situtation as a whole

[boreal escarp]

let's not bury mcp before it's opened xD

[fallow crow]

wat

its already open

[sterile parrot]

lmfao

[fallow crow]

but idm if others want to say that

[boreal escarp]

before it become known then

[fallow crow]

it doesn't affect me lol

[naive barn]

what if i say "I head many people worked with Fluent and they say it's the best out there. You should definetly check it out". Maybe even insert a link.

Would that be Ok?

[fallow crow]

knowing its a service team

id dip

[sterile parrot]

that is not the point

[fallow crow]

i mean its clever advertising

i have nothing against it

[naive barn]

it's deceiving

[fallow crow]

eh

[naive barn]

not clever in any way

i don't like lying my way into $

[fallow crow]

thats how I'm gonna roll 😛

and im not making money from MCP

nor is that my intention

[fading orbit]

You're hiding your obvious bias and admitting that that is basically your intent

[fallow crow]

I take % from sales

[naive barn]

isn't that making money?

[fallow crow]

*0%

[naive barn]

don't you get other advantages from owning it

if it becomes popular

[fallow crow]

im not in it for the money

[naive barn]

like CV, potential for sponsorships, list goes on?

[sterile parrot]

if

[fallow crow]

i dont need money rn

[velvet crescent]

You people need to chill lmao

[fallow crow]

^

[fading orbit]

FROSTY

[fallow crow]

I'm just here laughing tbh

[fading orbit]

I swear to god

I will

[velvet crescent]

dip dip skinny dip

[fading orbit]

unzips

wait

[velvet crescent]

electronic 😏

[fallow crow]

electric trying to be kinky

👀

unzips

[sterile parrot]

wtf that conversation just escalated the fuck

[velvet crescent]

boutta throw you in water, then we'll see what happens nerd

[fading orbit]

Wanna know what else escalated

[fallow crow]

well tbf i didnt wanna go over in circles over a stupid argument

[fading orbit]

looks down

[velvet crescent]

cuz u get it "electric"

[fallow crow]

now i heard there is this amazing plugin called spoof kappa

[velvet crescent]

stfu Charlie, FJ is where it's at

[fallow crow]

hahaha

u mean FrozenSpoof

on other terms

[fading orbit]

FrozenSpoof

[fallow crow]

i now have enough for my new phone on saturday

<o/

[vague walrus]

You have enough for the new phone by accepting bribes, or taking a portion of sales?

🤔

[naive barn]

also, don't see what's inherently bad about the concept of a service team.

Companies also take commissions off their employees work. Actually, they take way more. Companies like IBM take around 60-70% of the revenue made by their employees.
Don't see what's wrong when somebody takes 2 times less than that while still getting you work.

https://sfy.cx/ss/u/001e.png

[fallow crow]

@vague walrus yeye for sure dude

not gonna feed your troll lol

[vague walrus]

You pinged me 😦

[long summit]

Companies pay you a salary.

[fallow crow]

Deal w/ it

[long summit]

Service teams don't.

[fallow crow]

and ye

service teams take a huge cut

and no salary ye

[naive barn]

service teams advertise for you, convince clients to work with you, etc. Isn't that the same thing as with "pay you a salary"

[fallow crow]

everyonw in the service team gets paid for your work

[naive barn]

yes, it's not a stable income since it depends on how many people you do work for

[fallow crow]

a 90/10 split would be fair

[vague walrus]

just use ads

[fallow crow]

but anymore than that is silly

[fading orbit]

Service teams are something I'd be weary of, but that's mainly because I've seen a lot of service teams where I wouldn't trust any of the devs on the team to deliver salt

[naive barn]

^

[fallow crow]

I'd rather go direct to the person

[fading orbit]

((That, and many of the teams are often stingy fucks who can't even program tryna earn a buck off other devs works)

[long summit]

Most accept anyone, so bye quality.

[fallow crow]

and DrZod its neither, its because I take on commissions and gain sales from my plugins

[naive barn]

Yeah, I get your point. Thing is there are circumstances where you may need something fast and you don't have somebody you trust to do it for you.

I have long-term business relationships with quite a few servers. But sometimes, i am busy, so in those circumstances having a place you can trust doing that work for you isn't that bad

[vague walrus]

I figured

[fallow crow]

I've never used a service team, and refuse to

but thats me

I go direct to people, and they go direct to me

[vague walrus]

Sponge doesn't have anything like that

😦

but also and 🙂

[naive barn]

I for example, invested back all the revenue i earned from fluent from when i've opened it to the public. Over 500$ spent in advertising, theme. Didn't include my 50+ hours of work working on all the features the bot has so it provides an automatic system

[fallow crow]

rn i got 2 commissions to do

[fading orbit]

I don't blame sponge for not having premium plugins

[velvet crescent]

The amount of poop y'all putting down is hilarious

[vague walrus]

I'm happy about it ngl

[fallow crow]

if sponge needs a marketplace

hmu

i can add a sponge section

this is my time to talk third person

[fading orbit]

and service sections in general, really; It basically becomes the sole job of a bunch of volounteers to deal with the disgruntled people earning the $$$ and dealing with their entitlement

[vague walrus]

I mean you could, but you wouldn't be endorced by sponge at all

[fading orbit]

nawt worth it whatsoever

[naive barn]

Here, is my 30% justified by that + the fact that i spent time recruiting, getting clients, designing the platform and bot.
https://sfy.cx/ss/u/50a4.png

[fading orbit]

Sponge wasn't nothing to do with that stuff, mainly as they've seen what a shithole spigot is

Well, I guess more in part, they have other reasons too

[vague walrus]

I mean, a lot of them were bukkit devs, are paper devs, etc... they've been in the community more than most.

[naive barn]

• paying people to do work i am not good at such as web design & graphics?

see, that's the thing with service teams. The idea is improperly implemented. But there have been projects (mainly outside minecraft) who did it succesfully without having poor quality services.

[sterile parrot]

I just work for a company lol

aint having that crap

[fallow crow]

30% yikes

couldn't do that

[naive barn]

don't you earn ~30-50% of what your company earns off your work?

[velvet crescent]

A company and a service team is two different things mister

[sterile parrot]

I mean it is a full time job

[fringe sigil]

Most service teams are pretty poor

[velvet crescent]

And are in no way comparable

[naive barn]

of course, but the difference isn't that big

[velvet crescent]

It actually is kek

[fringe sigil]

The ones that require someone to intervene to confirm a payment or something and stupid rules

Fluent works because the system is nice

[long summit]

They are quite different.

[fringe sigil]

Client can pay and the bot informs me instantly

[naive barn]

the only practical difference i see is assurance. Companies give you a fixed salary, and give you safety. A service team won't do that since the comissions come out randomly. You may earn 500 in a day, you may earn 10 in a day.

[fallow crow]

i just dont see why i should be giving u and your team 30% of the cut

for my work

[naive barn]

let me list the reasons:

[fallow crow]

10% and i'd say you know what, ok fair

[fringe sigil]

Because they get you the work

[fallow crow]

but not 30%..

thats a huge amount

[long summit]

Agreed.

[fallow crow]

$100 plugin, they take $30 out of your work

thats a huge amount

[naive barn]

- 100% money back guarantee for the comission in case you get screwed up. (aka i pay all of it if freelancer scams me and you do a dispute).
- I pay coupons for verified servers. 30$ off a 50$ comission is more than my 30% will cover. I lose on that.
- I pay money to get people on fluent. From paying 175 EUR for the website theme to working 50+ hours on the bot to manage payments automatically, provide freelancers with a panel, marketplace, etc.
- I spend time looking for quality freelancers. See, that's the thing. There's not only a shortage of clients, there's also a shortage of trained people to take their work.

[woven prairie]

Lol

[fallow crow]

I understand, but I just couldn't ever justify 30% of my work

regardless of what you provide

[naive barn]

If for example i get a comission for 300$, and it's planned by a freelancer and a false client, i lose 300$. Client asks for something, freelancer immediately gets it before somebody else, client says it's fine, 1 week in after i paid the dev "guess what, it has a bug". Freelancer doens't respond. What do i do?

[fallow crow]

I know you seemingly work hard on it, but 30% is huge

as you scale it

[naive barn]

Scam the client? Or sponge 300$?

[jagged pollen]

taking % from mc related work is always bad imo

[naive barn]

either i steal 300$, either i get 300$ stolen

[fallow crow]

See this is where someone needs a service team that takes no %

from people

[naive barn]

so in this case, i lose. That's the thing

[velvet crescent]

y'all needa stop complaining and get a job

[fallow crow]

MCP Service Team - 0% cut

[velvet crescent]

(an actual job)

[fallow crow]

amirite

[woven prairie]

Minecraft is my job 👀

[fringe sigil]

0% cut no money back guarntee lol

[fallow crow]

HAHA

[boreal escarp]

I mean, you just sit there an wait for a commission that you like.

[jagged pollen]

Im not making good cash if i get all the 100%, and now u want to take a cut?

[velvet crescent]

Gian shhh

[naive barn]

that's another thing a service team can get you

larger prices

[long summit]

What you spent on your theme etc has nothing to do with your cut.
You can go on mcm and find some commissions for free, they also payed for their website and shit and won't take the cut.

[fallow crow]

^

[naive barn]

yeah, i don't deny my freelancers from doing that

not here to scam the people that work with me. Just offering them an extra place to earn

[long summit]

Your opinion on this is bias because you're the one getting the money,

[boreal escarp]

It's ok taking a percentage but 30% ..

[naive barn]

yes, you can take it as biased

[velvet crescent]

Can you all stop kek?

[vague walrus]

If you don't like his offer, don't use his service 🤔

[fallow crow]

preach if we go back, stef and lemmo said I'm bias being third person, but you're also being the same

30% is a huge cut

[sterile parrot]

I mean imho, you shouldn’t decide on one price but on a set of hours // a price per hour

[fallow crow]

the thing is

not everyone can be fully sure

on how many hours

[sterile parrot]

hence why you log hours

[boreal escarp]

I mean, if anyone would pay per hour

[naive barn]

Before i started fluent i worked as a solo freelancer. Got my own deals, etc. People rarely pay per hour. They believe it's less trustworthy

[fallow crow]

i dont think people would pay per hour

because suddenly your bill would rocket

if say u found a bug

[naive barn]

In a company it's fine. You have the employee there and you see him in the office.

[fallow crow]

ye

[naive barn]

On the internet, the good dev he is eats a hamburger at mc-donalds off your pay/hour

[woven prairie]

Cute

[vague walrus]

Stream your work

[naive barn]

doesn't happen that often, but it does scare people

[vague walrus]

[fallow crow]

and they steal your code

[vague walrus]

or record it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Record, and give after

[naive barn]

I work with clients on chat on discord if they want

[vague walrus]

then they already have the code

[sterile parrot]

I mean that is why I think mc shouldn’t be for the money or anything

[vague walrus]

and the proof

[naive barn]

but that's what they say when i ask about payment / hour

[sterile parrot]

do it for the fun and if you need money get an actual job

[naive barn]

You're partially right Lemmo. In my country though, i'm earning more than actual devs with degrees

i'm a 16 year old kid who for that matter would be moving construction materials 7 hours a day for 300$ a month

[fallow crow]

eh i disagree, u should earn money from something if u work hard

even if its mc

[naive barn]

yet i'm earning 25EUR a month working with minecraft servers that provide a place for kids to play for a living

Average salary in my country is 500 EUR.

For a dev, average salary is around 700 EUR

let's not mention that nobody would hire me for 700 EUR without a degree.

[jagged pollen]

Per month?

[naive barn]

yeah

[woven prairie]

I have no degree 👀

[sterile parrot]

here it is around 80 euro’s an hour

[jagged pollen]

Thats too low rip

[naive barn]

Romania

Yeah, that's why minecraft is fine in my area

[fallow crow]

You’re from Romania???

[naive barn]

and so you know it's not just me rambling

yes

[fallow crow]

My step mum is from there

[boreal escarp]

Lmao

[fallow crow]

Near the castle

[boreal escarp]

Bran.

[fallow crow]

Ye

Tho I don’t like her

So I hope Dracula takes her

[naive barn]

we literally had defence teachers plagiate on their doctorate degrees.

[boreal escarp]

Lol

[naive barn]

and trust me i know more than that which is not public and which i'd rather not talk about

[velvet crescent]

fam Dracula real, you boutta get eaten

[naive barn]

My country mainly exports services. That in itself mainly focuses in IT

[velvet crescent]

heck out with that smh..

[naive barn]

Bitdefender started in Romania. Employees are literally taken, burn out and then get fired

most popular antivirus

[vague walrus]

Never heard of it

[boreal escarp]

Because we are underrated Stefa.

[naive barn]

https://www.itproportal.com/guides/the-best-antivirus-software/

first site on the internet

https://www.techradar.com/best/best-antivirus

second site

[long summit]

Antivirus software lol

[fallow crow]

awkward I don’t have any on my new laptop

[naive barn]

me neither

[sterile parrot]

I mean it is anti virus software

ehh

[fallow crow]

I’m picky with what I download

[velvet crescent]

It says beef on there

[naive barn]

i personally don't think an antivirus is really necesarry

[fallow crow]

Only if it has big br- I mean megabytes

Nah jk

[naive barn]

but bitdefender did help with some investigations

[fallow crow]

I mean it’s rumoured that anti virus companies make viruses

Which makes sense

[boreal escarp]

Lmao

Imagine

[naive barn]

iirc correctly they helped FBI catch quite a bit of deep web drug dealers

[fallow crow]

It’s true

Google and you’ll see articles

Idk if it’s legit but it makes sense

[naive barn]

Considering the US government did, wouldn't surprise me

[fallow crow]

If it stopped every virus they wouldn’t make money

[boreal escarp]

Imagine getting a trojan when you install the antivirus

[fallow crow]

HAHA

[fringe sigil]

I remember planning to build bots to bypass my own bot protection and then sell upgrades

[woven prairie]

I like how the convo came here

[fringe sigil]

(for agario)

[boreal escarp]

Lmao

[naive barn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

doubt they need to do any viruses really because there are enough people from third / second world countries making viruses

why bother working on something when the work is done free of charge.

One thing i'm going to tell you though. Doubt any antivirus company is goingto want a univeral patch to malware being created

[fallow crow]

Imagine being an anti virus company and creating your own virus to target other anti viruses

It would be like Pac-Man and the ghosts

[sterile parrot]

lmao

[jagged pollen]

Lol

[fringe sigil]

nconnect

[naive barn]

yeah that's the thing, there's no need for the companies to do that themselves

so much that can go wrong if they fail and the word gets out

[jagged pollen]

I always hear about antivirus gets u the virus but meh

[naive barn]

but if you just leave the russians and chinese to do whatever they want, eventually it'll happen

i haven't touched any antivirus except temporarily disabling w10 antivirus whenever it breaks my pentesting tools

[velvet crescent]

"russians and chinese" you scared for your nudes?

[sterile parrot]

LOL

[naive barn]

nah, not really special

[jagged pollen]

lol

[velvet crescent]

Jhalt wants to know your location

[naive barn]

there are so many naked people photos

doubt mine would be of any importance

especially since i don't care so it can't be used as leverage

[elfin minnow]

[jagged pollen]

I mean who has his nudes on his pc/phone :p

[fallow crow]

Err

HAHA

[velvet crescent]

hides

[fallow crow]

oops

[naive barn]

atechnological internet sexting people?

[jagged pollen]

lol Charlie

[fallow crow]

Not all of them are ofc

But still HAHA

[jagged pollen]

Lmfao

[fallow crow]

Eh I’m not afraid to be open

[naive barn]

i put a blanket on my phone's camera when i'm changing clothes, damn paranoia

but still, if a picture got out, that's it

[fallow crow]

We live in a world where people do that shit

[naive barn]

what can you do about it

[fallow crow]

So eh

[naive barn]

whatever lol

[fallow crow]

They are legal ones anyway so idc

[fringe sigil]

Yeah security is an issue these days

[jagged pollen]

Mhm

[fallow crow]

I’m not that bothered, I’ve never been hacked

as I came from OGU community with handles

I never use text based 2fa

Because sim swapping

[naive barn]

thing is everyone has a body

[jagged pollen]

o

[fallow crow]

Rly

[naive barn]

if a nude gets out (and you don't even post it yourself), then there's nothing to worry about

not a pervert since you didn't want it on

am i going to laugh about some girl getting a photo leaked by a retarted old boyfriend tapping her phone with an app? No

I'd rather tell her to slap that guy in the face when he sees him

[fallow crow]

I mean I can understand why people get so sad and upset when their pics get leaked

You have trust in that person to open up about your insecurities

For example I’m not confident with myself

[naive barn]

i've started to stop caring about these things. Yeah, people do judge you

I've had issues with anxiety because i worried so much, but i started not really caring at all

people that i want to talk with generally don't judge people off that

[fallow crow]

It’s like why insta is full of fakes, because people cover their insecurities

With fake clouds, bum, ass etc

[split basalt]

Nice topic

[fallow crow]

IKR

And I just realised I said the same thing twice

[naive barn]

yeah, that's what society encourages

[fringe sigil]

my anxiety is bad for this sort of stuff

[naive barn]

had simmilar issues Niall. Was up to a point where i got Xanax prescribed for me.
Didn't take it, solved my issues myself

[fallow crow]

I’m not a confident person so I’d feel the same if my shit got leaked

[naive barn]

simply stopped caring about this kind of stuff

[fallow crow]

Eh i got to a point I even told my dad I wanted to kms lol

[naive barn]

today i randomly smiled and waved at a teacher. She wasn't too happy about it. Took it as a sign of disrespect. Don't care.

[velvet crescent]

A line of coke a day, keeps the doctor away

[fallow crow]

My mood changes often

[fringe sigil]

Don't think so somehow frosty

[velvet crescent]

Niall, trust me.

[fallow crow]

Days where I can be happy, other dAys I just feel like hanging myself

[fringe sigil]

when they cancel my train

[naive barn]

generally stop caring about what others think

best defense is offense. That's why people attack others

Attacking makes people believe you're strong. Often it's just showing your own insecurities but since that's the general bias, people go with it

and that's why you feel bad some days about what people judge you about

[fallow crow]

Yeah I’ve learnt it’s better to say nothing

[naive barn]

Generally it's best to mind about your own goals and don't bother about others

[velvet crescent]

@jagged pollen Make sure not to say anything hostile, cuz the dude is gonna roast you in dms lmao

[naive barn]

don't fuck others up to get to your goal though, that's not doing anybody good

[jagged pollen]

Hmm?

[naive barn]

don't screw somebody up for 50$

[fringe sigil]

Ah yes so

I got blackmailed because someone wanted MY WEBSITE's source code

[naive barn]

what did he blackmail you with, if you dont mind me asking?

[fringe sigil]

The password for an email account was in the old open-sourced files on github

[velvet crescent]

Niall, gimme ur money or I report you to FBI for your plane software

[naive barn]

why didn't you change it

[fringe sigil]

Forgot to

[fallow crow]

Niall I was expecting more “I’ll take your diamonds!!”

[fringe sigil]

It was in a different file to all other credentials

So basically changed recovery email and phone, which was stupid

[jagged pollen]

Kinda weird saying that to me @velvet crescent but okay :p

[fringe sigil]

So I have his phone number lol

[velvet crescent]

Lemme dm you something, so you understand what I mean

[fringe sigil]

• His password manager synced into the account, just.. he didnt think it through

[naive barn]

yeah, see. No need to pay ransoms, be it service or money

[velvet crescent]

If you want my shit take it, There's always ways to get it back or even remake it

[naive barn]

A couple of months ago i was receiving messages about people getting bots on their cracked servers.

[velvet crescent]

(not my money though, stay away from that)

[naive barn]

One paid a 200$ ransom to the guy botting him

guess what, he didn't stop

[sterile parrot]

I’ve known someone who had this happen in a bad way, she ended up ending her life.

[naive barn]

he paid me 80$, took me 3 hours at 2 am but we fixed it

[fringe sigil]

If you give in that just shows them your basically going to do what they say I guess

[sterile parrot]

Really sad story. Hate to see people do stuff like this

[velvet crescent]

Stefatorus, if you're ever getting ddosed, remember this

@EventHandler
public void onDDoS (DDoSEvent.Pre event) {
    if (event.getDDos().isStarting() || event.getDDos.isActive()) {
        event.setCancelled(true);
    }
}

[fallow crow]

When people threaten you, often just tell them to do it and they won’t

It’s usually a blank threat

They want you to be all sorry and stuff

[velvet crescent]

90% of crime is a blank threat lol

[jade oasis]

they're 99% of the time bluffing

[naive barn]

they aren't many times

[fringe sigil]

I have an email prepared to send to my blackmailers school

[naive barn]

fact is when you pay them you're just encouraging them

there's no honor between thieves

[fringe sigil]

I'm probably not going to send that email

But if he ever does it again I will show him a screenshot of the email in my sent folder to his school.

[velvet crescent]

Niall, hook up that AA and you're good 😏

[naive barn]

call him and give him a lesson about what a douchebag he is

[fallow crow]

When people threaten, they usually don’t want the consequences so they do a blank threat

And when you tell them to do it, they shit themselves

Because they didn’t expect that response

[naive barn]

people like that don't even pass the filter

[sterile parrot]

well my battery is degraded badly lol

[naive barn]

when you're having a factions server they kind of pass

[fringe sigil]

O

[fallow crow]

Lemme check mine

What phone you got pen

Lem

[naive barn]

that respective server received threats on a daily basis

and had his server taken down each week

[sterile parrot]

iphone 7

[naive barn]

now it's fine, we fixed it

[velvet crescent]

Rip 40$ for that battery replacement Lemmo 😂

[sterile parrot]

nah I ain’t replacing it

[fallow crow]

Geez only had mine a year

To be fair on Saturday I get my new one which I’m stoked for

[naive barn]

but generally when there's factions kids into the play and 2000$ monthly rewards people start to fight

[velvet crescent]

Send me your old one, ktnx

[fallow crow]

Frosty I have to give it in

[sterile parrot]

I have this one for 3 years

[fallow crow]

😦

[velvet crescent]

apple sucks

[naive barn]

there are minecraft factions literally doing what they do as a job

[sterile parrot]

basically on release I got it lol

[velvet crescent]

I had my LG for 2 years and it's seen better days

[fallow crow]

👀

[jagged pollen]

👀

[velvet crescent]

You mean

[fallow crow]

You know Apple told me on phone right

[naive barn]

#notworthitifyoudon'twanttospendonintegrationwithotherappledevices

[fallow crow]

The few SMALL scratches on my phone Apple charge for

[jagged pollen]

Out of stock where i live

[sterile parrot]

iphone 11 is dissapointing imho

[naive barn]

^

[fallow crow]

It’s not as good as it was hyped for

I’ll admit that

[naive barn]

last iphones are kind of disappointing

but that's what phones are in general

[fallow crow]

But the camera and the screen looks bomb

[velvet crescent]

You gonna oop Charlie?

[naive barn]

progress is slowing down

[fallow crow]

I wanna try take pics with it

[naive barn]

transistors too small now

everything is about software.

[jagged pollen]

Frosty pls

[naive barn]

"AI Enhance images"

[fallow crow]

Apparently the new phone is hella powerful tho

[naive barn]

"AI Zoom"

[velvet crescent]

aBoo ❤

[naive barn]

"AI low light"

[sterile parrot]

I don’t want 3 cameras

[fallow crow]

Slofies

[jagged pollen]

Not the first phone with 3 cameras :p

[naive barn]

"AI cpu core"

[sterile parrot]

I rarely make pics

[fallow crow]

I wanna play games on mine tbh

Clash of clans with better brightness 😏

[velvet crescent]

There is, but they don't charge 1.2k for it

[jagged pollen]

i mean there's a phone with 2 front cameras ... Like tf??

[naive barn]

mobile games don't require as much processing power

[velvet crescent]

I like this one

[jagged pollen]

wut lol

[naive barn]

CoC can run on any device released in last 5 years

[fringe sigil]

This was mine

[naive barn]

screw them

block them and solve your issues

or if they have the gun pulled and there's reppercusions if you block him

[fallow crow]

Or give us the discord name

I’ll have fun

[naive barn]

waste his time until you manage to solve it

[velvet crescent]

Charlie kek

[fallow crow]

If I end up dead tomorrow by a hitman

[naive barn]

he's not going to pull the trigger because he still wants to earn off you (he earns nothing if he shoots)

[fallow crow]

You know he wasn’t lying

😂

[velvet crescent]

lmao

[jagged pollen]

lol

[fringe sigil]

This was a month ago

[fallow crow]

Oh

[fringe sigil]

Sorted but I keep seriously close eye

[naive barn]

I always background check who i work with

not so much with people i randomly talk with

i literally have my phone number, exact address, and name on my personal website

open to the entire internet

wasn't kidnapped YET

[velvet crescent]

sexy af (and yes it has 3 cameras) ||https://www.mi.com/in/redmi-k20-pro/||

[fringe sigil]

But meh

[naive barn]

2 word response for those people

[velvet crescent]

I never take front camera pictures so no notch = gucci af boi

[naive barn]

"go ahead"

work with a pretty large network in Romania, Gamster

1000-2000 players, largest in romania by a huge margin

we get threats daily

[fringe sigil]

Yeah I’ve checked it out

[velvet crescent]

Only way I would coop with a service team is if I was guaranteed income

[naive barn]

from "we're going to grief your server" to "we're going to leak your server" to people trying to get us to ban our staff for false reasons

[velvet crescent]

And a level of professionalism ofc

[naive barn]

well, i'd be fine with that frosty but i need more clients to get that going

also since the fact that clients choose who they don't want to work with when doing the freelancer selection process, you'd be incentivized not to look serious

[velvet crescent]

I mean ye clients are hardest, but still I see kids requesting a large plugin configuration for 5$ like do you think I eat air?

[naive barn]

min for fluent is 15$. I usually convince them to either pay more or they leave.

[velvet crescent]

Kids these days don't value time at all

[naive barn]

We had clients asking for decently minor work and paying 50-100$

[fringe sigil]

Yeah haha

I’ve accepted a couple of those ones

[velvet crescent]

I mean like you have to factor in that time = money, and if a person spends several hours on something where they could be earning money elsewhere

anyways back to making FJ better

[naive barn]

yeah, true

Thing is system is automated so not too much time wasted. As a freelancer you get a comission, how much he pays, the timeframe and what he wants in a text file

he pays before you start

after you finish you can get your money.

only thing that isn't automated is payouts (since paypal's API doesn't allow them without extra checks, an LLC opened, etc)

also server coupons, since i've had people use fake player plugins to trick the bot into giving them enterprise (and as such a coupon)

[fallow crow]

It’s better not being auto

If someone got into your account

They could give themselves money

[velvet crescent]

Spoof 😏

[naive barn]

the system for fluent is pretty secure. Exception being the site which i didn't bother to solve since it required 2 discord servers & 2 docker servers to have a dev and production branch

[fallow crow]

Haha

[naive barn]

currently fluent auto-deploys to docker once i push a change to git

[velvet crescent]

all I heard was, do you even speak english?

[naive barn]

to sum it up

[velvet crescent]

(I'm kidding)

[naive barn]

oh, ok 😂

[fallow crow]

😂 I’ve got to integrate bungee support for this plugin

[naive barn]

i'm literally encrypting my config and only decrypting it with a system variable in docker

[fallow crow]

I’ve never used docker

[naive barn]

so if anybody stole my GIT, docker account, etc; he wouldn't get access to the bot's data

[velvet crescent]

also wut u think Charlie

[naive barn]

Fluent was the reason i learnt it Charlie. That's what these projects are useful for

Learned a bit of go to get fluent going too

i have a bot that automatically verifies that you own a server

and gives you ranks based on playercount

[velvet crescent]

but see that isn't failproof

[naive barn]

it can be done in such a way to make it impossible to lie

[velvet crescent]

you could use Spoof.GG and have hundreds of players meaning you'd easily get the role

[naive barn]

but it's damn hard

i could make it see the tab

and count the lines

or if not

[fallow crow]

@velvet crescent looks good

[velvet crescent]

Spoof does all that

[naive barn]

just count players for 1 week

[velvet crescent]

so still not failproof

[naive barn]

check for patterns

[velvet crescent]

Spoof also handles that

[fallow crow]

Ye ^

[velvet crescent]

So you're pretty much cucked :p

[fallow crow]

Spoof is hard asf to detect

Basically every plugin works with it

[velvet crescent]

Charlie, let's go beat hypixel :p

just load up 100k players

the server would cook, but who cares

[fallow crow]

Haha so far we got to 1k spoof, now we need 100k

[naive barn]

does spoof manage playercount for it to be natural?

[fallow crow]

Ye