off-topic

[magic summit]

Yeah?

[cobalt pendant]

lol why you so rude at him

[magic summit]

Is it nowadays illegal to say my opinion?

[cobalt pendant]

no

also why the skripts exists i am asking...

[fallow crow]

Welp

[fringe sigil]

Lolol

[agile robin]

The first sentence from him didnt make sense so thats a great start

[woven prairie]

That's not "constructive criticism" though... That's being a complete douche..

• Essentials has been developed since 2010/2011, of course it has more features
• Complaining that it's a Skript offers no value. The dev wanted to use Skript, so what?
• The last point is eh, especially the bracketed points

I'm all for stating opinions, and we're all entitled to our own, but, still. This isn't a valuable review

[mental lichen]

Now he's covering his tracks because he's being criticized for not being able to take criticism lol

[magic summit]

Just to be clear: About who do we talk?
@woven prairie And yeah I know, but it's still my opinion

[fringe sigil]

There’s been times when I’ve overreeacted

I should have just given a refund

It’s weird how you realise that you were a dick at some times

[fallow crow]

[magic summit]

My expansion is unverified again 😠

[fallow crow]

🆒

[fringe sigil]

I think I’m gonna do some work on HolographicExtension update

[boreal escarp]

[magic summit]

Making it OS would be a decent idea imo

[fringe sigil]

I would love to

[sterile parrot]

FOSS ftw

[fringe sigil]

But I can imagine people taking advantage of open sourced

The animation features are quite unique

[sterile parrot]

@magic summit what is your expansion

I can verify it

[magic summit]

FOSS? What's that?

[fringe sigil]

Free and open source

[magic summit]

Also Math-expansion

[fringe sigil]

Or something

[sterile parrot]

alright will have a look

[fringe sigil]

The animation feature was quite hard to make

I literally sat down with a piece of paper

Wrote how I want it to look in config

And how it should appear in The scoreboard

[magic summit]

I personally love to make configs 😄

[fringe sigil]

Hardest part was learning regexs

Anyway I’m gonna rewrite HEXT a bit

Just that main class mess

[magic summit]

This is my config for HelpGUI... Kinda proud of it 😄
https://hastebin.com/zuvexedeqa.yaml

[fringe sigil]

Yeah that’s neat

[magic summit]

I just love doing such configs

[fringe sigil]

Yeah lol

[sterile parrot]

@magic summit cool thing man

verified it

[magic summit]

I once made one for a plugin that (probably) never will be possible

thx

[fringe sigil]

Oh lol

[magic summit]

I guess that's an intentional feature, that the expansion gets unverified, when you update it (And aren't a verified person yourself)

[boreal escarp]

That's good

[fallow crow]

Does anyone know the plugin name, that lets you place blocks like these on the ground? Which also allows chestplates, swords, etc.

If you can help, please @fallow crow me. 😄

As well as these particles around this NPC.

Small blocks.

[magic summit]

Pretty sure that are just invisible armor stands

[fallow crow]

Yes, they are.

But what is the plugin name to make them? :/

[fringe sigil]

Is it not a heads plugin?

[magic summit]

There are plenty of plugins to manipulate ArmorStands

I personally use ArmorStand tools

[fallow crow]

Can I put down chestplates and stuff with that?

@magic summit

Like, helmets and stuff down

[fringe sigil]

Also is this server for any plugin help

In general

Or mainly papi-orientated stuff

[fallow crow]

I can't post pictures in #general-plugins

[magic summit]

You can use sites like imgur for that

[fallow crow]

?

Oh true.

[magic summit]

To show images

And honestly: Google it.

That is imo basic knowledge about what you can and can not do with Armor Stands

[fringe sigil]

I dont currently use gradle/maven

Should I consider using it?

[regal juniper]

Yes

Makes life easier

[fringe sigil]

Okay

[regal juniper]

And you will make dev life easier for others if you open source sutff

[fringe sigil]

Okay

Il give it ago

[fringe sigil]

Hmm how do I add a dependency

Oh wow

Wait a min...

[sterile parrot]

you add it in the pom

depending on the dependency you’ll need to shade (or shadow for gradle) it in.

otherwise the uber jar won’t run due to not having access to it’s dependencies

[mental lichen]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/59aaa48abb29ae33ea4b0a438d301183/tenor.gif?itemid=3562985

[fringe sigil]

I was so suprised

Its so wasy

Except intellij is taking a while "processing indicies"

[mental lichen]

Did you go like
https://media.giphy.com/media/JKfAk6hieK4uY/giphy.gif

[fringe sigil]

yeAh

[regal juniper]

Yeah it takes awhie the first time to setup the maven repo

[fringe sigil]

Okay how long about?

Just wondering If i need to invalidate chaches

also could someone give some advice on my post in #development

[magic summit]

I see what he tries...

Constantly making a new review, to annoy me with notifications

[young temple]

oof

[magic summit]

He made 5 responses so far

[boreal escarp]

Remove the review :))

[magic summit]

nah

[fallow crow]

Haha rip shouldn’t have reviewed

[jagged pollen]

looks like he has alot for free time to do that 😛

[dapper fox]

Sooo petty

[fallow crow]

Yup

[dapper fox]

all he's doing is making himself look unprofessional

[young temple]

Why not just say "Thanks for your review, i'll take that into consideration"

[fallow crow]

Yeah that works

[young temple]

I wish I had people criticizing my server

Cause if players don't like my server they just leave

it's rare that someone says "Oh hey, your server is crap because the chat is spammy"

Usually, it's just the first part if they even get around to saying it

kthxbai

[magic summit]

That's what I told him too in discussion @young temple

[mental lichen]

People just join my server then say "bb" and leave

[young temple]

Rip

[magic summit]

😂

At least they're honest

@steady creek
1. You need to privide a valid budget in #449114052233265152
2. What exactly do you mean with "interconnection to minecraft"? Perhaps there's already something that can do that.

[boreal escarp]

^

[steady creek]

connect the VIPs

More info is that

[magic summit]

How "connect"?

I mean there's DiscordSRV that provides chat and role-linking with the Discord

Clip goes for the world-record

[boreal escarp]

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/95929-longest-videogame-marathon-on-minecraft

[fallow crow]

Do you know an application to convert MAC music to Windows?

I need to get the music on the Mac and open it on the windows

[late schooner]

It doesn’t need to be converted

You can use iTunes to connect the computers

[fallow crow]

I need songs from a DJ but it uses MAC and I use windows.

the songs are in his PC, I can not open them on the windows

[boreal escarp]

If you don't have money for a haircut, call these guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYf8Nol-BC4

only $0,70

[fringe sigil]

Hopefully HEXT will be open sourced very soon

[mental lichen]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6wrAF4thunQH7o3K/giphy.gif

[sterile parrot]

that isn’t from maven tho

[fringe sigil]

Lol

[young temple]

Budget: to combine

@jagged pollen Why not Apple Music?

[jagged pollen]

i dont have $$ for that 😊

[young temple]

oof

[jagged pollen]

im happy with spotify tho

[young temple]

i c

[fringe sigil]

Good evening

[regal juniper]

@fallow crow Based on your offer, you're claiming that you think The Pit is worth ~$50.80?

I mean that's $2/10kb

No one is going to buy based on the size of the file.

[agile robin]

Btw the websites abit broke on mobile 👍

[magic summit]

I personally wouldn't waste any money for plugins from an dev that sells per KB

[untold hearth]

@fallow crow Uppercase in package names

tsk tsk

[regal juniper]

@agile robin It will be

It was in the works of a rewrite but halted

[agile robin]

Glare which website u talking about?

[regal juniper]

The ecloud one?

[agile robin]

Oh no i was talking about this guys one he put in #archived-role-request lol

[regal juniper]

Ohh

[agile robin]

I havnt been on the ecloud site in probably year or so 😂

[regal juniper]

Ahh

[magic summit]

I hope it soon gets continued on the rework...

Who did it btw?

[regal juniper]

Nathan was working on it

It isn't the easiest to work on because it's Django

[agile robin]

Anyone here done any react? Ive started doing a bit of it at work but not rlly found good explanations for most things

[regal juniper]

I've dabbed in it a bit, not too much though.

I've been playing around with scraping lately

Seeing what all can be done with that

[agile robin]

As in getting information from sites orr?,

[regal juniper]

Yeah. I made something today which allows you to enter a XenForo forum url and the amount of members registered on it, and it will try to go out and grab all their profile pictures.

[agile robin]

Ahh

Howd it go

[regal juniper]

Good, it's done and working, at least for the ones not on CloudFlare.

I have to make a small change for the cloudflare protected forums

[fringe sigil]

Pictures taken moments before disaster

[agile robin]

Do you remember that little paper clip

[fringe sigil]

Do I

Yes

Clippy

[agile robin]

Little shit would pop up constantly

[magic summit]

@agile robin I know a discord, where some people use react (you talk about that web-stuff right?

[agile robin]

Idk what windows it was on maybe xp, but there was some random program that had a bunch of singing dancing hamsters that i remember vividly. However i cant find anything on it 😂

[fringe sigil]

??

Lol

@magic summit ye ReactJS?

[magic summit]

@fringe sigil btw. forgot to ask: Can you show me a example of the (maybe) new animation-thing?
(preferebly with the glow one 😂)

[agile robin]

Mind dming me a link?

[fringe sigil]

The <scramble> one?

[magic summit]

I made an example in #development and you responded, that it would probably be slightly different

But in what way?

[fringe sigil]

Oh json

I haven’t completely decided yet. I think json is going to over complicate the configuration for people.

[magic summit]

true

[fringe sigil]

If I were to do it it would be something like this:

{animation:scroll, width:32, space:33, text:Scroller}

[magic summit]

Would the , even be needed?

[fringe sigil]

Not necessarily

It would make the final “text” part easier

If each arg is separated by a comma

[magic summit]

Also the text should be in " since you can have more than one word 😉

[fringe sigil]

Yeah it could be

[magic summit]

I mean you make a really good job tho

I could never do that....

[fringe sigil]

If each args separated with a comma, the text: Text here can be split by :

which would return 1 text and Text here

[magic summit]

And still try to find out, how I could make something like:

chatrooms:
  vip:
    style: '&6VIP &7%player_name%'

And it would work with any text other than vip

[fringe sigil]

You mean so the “vip” section can be changed?

To work with different groups

[magic summit]

Also that comma-split could be dangerous, since what, if the text has a comma?

and yes

[fringe sigil]

yeah that’s a good point

Hopefully people would escape them

[magic summit]

Maybe use ;

Not that much used in text afaik

[fringe sigil]

I would recommend looping each section in chatrooms as a ConfigurationSection

eg

System.out.println(section);
}```

(I’m on mobile lol)

Would print vip

Anyway it’s rather late here so il be back tomorrow morning

Good luck

[fallow crow]

can anyone tell me if my serves scoreboard looks good

[boreal escarp]

Soo me

Lmao

[fallow crow]

anyone on

[regal juniper]

no

[young temple]

o

[woven prairie]

$1/10kb - shades everything 😂😂😂

[regal juniper]

@keen summit #449114116938792962 is not for plugin help

[young temple]

o

[keen summit]

its not plugin help

its not something technical

i need help with creating something

[regal juniper]

creating something for a plugin

Which is plugin help.

[keen summit]

not creating something for a plugin

creating something with the plugin

😁

[regal juniper]

That's plugin help.

[keen summit]

🙃

but its still not an issue with a plugin so why do i nedd to write it in plugin help

[fallow crow]

@warped light i have optimized my server a lot can u please check it out chat is optimized its not too much color anymore

[warped light]

Ok

Please change the scoerboard

And why do you have a portal with hub

if you have only one server

Vote message is default

[fallow crow]

... what should i change the scoreboard too

[warped light]

colors lol

[fallow crow]

ok

so only vote message scoreboard and the hub

[fringe sigil]

React to this if you want HolographicExtension open sourced

[mental lichen]

:(

[fringe sigil]

?

[mental lichen]

My message got delet from voice context

I'm a sinner

[fringe sigil]

hmm

[fallow crow]

Nullkite rip

[fringe sigil]

haha

[fallow crow]

That’s pretty amazing tho

[fringe sigil]

weird error though

oh

I missed a default arg....

[magic summit]

@fringe sigil When I add a frame with an animation to KiteBoard, will it first cicle through the animation, before showing the next frame?

@keen summit Please don't use #449114116938792962 for plugin-help.
Go to #general-plugins for that and remove your request.

[fringe sigil]

say you have this:

- <rainbow>TEXT</rainbow>
- Plain text```

It would do the rainbow first, then the plain text

&c TEXT
&e TEXT
&6 TEXT
etc...
Plain text

[magic summit]

👍

[keen summit]

i will remove i guess but its not a plugin help any ways....

[magic summit]

You ask for someone helping you making GUIs.

But your decition 🤷

[keen summit]

ye but its not an issue

[magic summit]

@cloud jungle Can you please one of your requests in #449114116938792962 ?
You aren't allowed to have more than one request at a time

[keen summit]

🤔

it was a request not an issue but okay

[magic summit]

#general-plugins has "help" in its name for a reason

Rule in #449114116938792962
- Services should not be for plugin help. Please post in #plugin-help

[keen summit]

well that i didnt know that there was a rule for that 😓

[boreal escarp]

check the link i have send capsulefor

[keen summit]

its not clear without the rule

[fringe sigil]

Hext update released

[magic summit]

OwO

[fringe sigil]

Il also be doing some work on this scramble effect

What I'm think of is to generate some random numbers to choose which characters to scramble

As seen in the gif you posted

So its a gradual scramble

[magic summit]

Will the order be always the same, or would it always become a different order?
Maybe have an seperate option for that? Like random:true to have each new scramble be random

[fringe sigil]

Yeah it could be, probably not in HolographicExtension, as animations are loaded at start.

like this

but il also want to add something to check that &kH&kE&kL&rLO would convert to &kHEL&rLO

[magic summit]

Maybe also add some safety thing like that it doesn't accidently resets colors or formatting

Like when I have &aKite&2Board that it doesn't remove it.

I have so many fucking issues with my plugin atm -_-

[fringe sigil]

oh

[magic summit]

Like I get an error and can't fix it

[fringe sigil]

Yeah then you end up realising it was a silly mistake

half of my errors are probably that

[magic summit]

I try to fix that issue for days now without success

And another plugin of mine also makes issues that I can't solve myself

And it already took over a month for someone to give the solution for a fix.... So yeah

And that solution was "Add <scope>provided</scope> to the dependency"

[sterile parrot]

what is the issue

[magic summit]

Depends on what plugin....

HelpGUI, where I can't open/create a GUI or PingNachricht, where it has errors with ProtoclLib

[sterile parrot]

lets stary with helpgui

start

[magic summit]

I first have to test something real quick, before talking about the error (might be fixed)

But for that I first have to build the server-jar 😅

[fringe sigil]

Okay I'm going to attempt to upload hext to github

[magic summit]

cool

[fringe sigil]

I always seem to ruin somethjng later on though :/

[magic summit]

Maybe I learn something from it 😄

[sterile parrot]

let’s see if I can comment on some things :p

[fringe sigil]

oh dear lol

[young temple]

o god

[magic summit]

I guess Spigot changed the world-generating thing in more than one way...
Like 1.13 shows more progress on world generation/loading

And I constantly get errors with PAPI (dev-build)
Glare plsfixkthx

[mental lichen]

@fringe sigil beautiful

[fringe sigil]

hmm

the random positions are repeated

[mental lichen]

Is it an intentional feature

[fringe sigil]

but i checked if there already used

not quite like that

[mental lichen]

Please make it a feature

[fringe sigil]

yeah its a feature but not quite meant to look like that

[mental lichen]

I love it already it looks like glitching text

[magic summit]

Alright.... doesn't work.
so.....
I have the issue, that the ClickEvent for my plugin gets fired, but for some reason does it not get, if the inventory is actually a ScrollerInventiory or not.

ScrollerInventory.java:
https://github.com/Andre601/HelpGUI/blob/master/src/main/java/com/andre601/helpgui/manager/ScrollerInventory.java

EventManager.java (Where the clickevent happens):
https://hastebin.com/petajoromo.java
Changed stuff which is the reason I don't have a GitHub link there

[sterile parrot]

both same code

[mental lichen]

Bro

[young temple]

bro

[mental lichen]

This is totally developery development stuff for the #development developer channel bro

[young temple]

o

[magic summit]

Sorry...

[boreal escarp]

1$ 5 lines of code
Best deal ever

[young temple]

oof

[mental lichen]

Bro is always watching 👀

[magic summit]

Here's the right one https://hastebin.com/menaxawipa.java

[sterile parrot]

why are you checking if the clicked person is a player

[boreal escarp]

^

[sterile parrot]

it is always a player?

no need to cast either

[magic summit]

Not to my knowledge....
Iirc could also any type of entity have a clickevent... Not sure tho

[sterile parrot]

no it csn’t

can’t

the method iirc returns a Player object too

[boreal escarp]

Ok my guys, go to #development

[sterile parrot]

your ide should even say this

[mental lichen]

Did I just not say that bro ✊ brofist

Remember to like subscribe and hit that notification bell to join my free giftcard giveaway

Squadfampaulers

[fringe sigil]

I need an appropriate license for hext

To be honest, I would prefer people not use significant portions of the code in proprietary software of their own.

[magic summit]

Pretty much any license on GitHub is a OS-one (I guess all of them are one...)

Just create a new file in GitHub, call it LICENSE and then click on the appearing button, to choose a license

Or just make one that says, that all copyright goes to you and that people are only allowed to use part of your code, with your permission... 🤷

[fringe sigil]

yeah

[regal juniper]

@magic summit What's the error?

[magic summit]

#development

[boreal escarp]

@fallow crow one post per user #367904196441276419

[magic summit]

Looks like dev.bukkit made some changes on their pages (again)

[boreal escarp]

still look like a 2010 website imo

it have that many registered users ? O.o
https://bukkit.org/members/91313194/

[agile robin]

I see no differences?

[magic summit]

Quick grammar question:
Is it 0.1 second or 0.1 seconds?

I guess it's second one?

👍

uhm

[agile robin]

Wait ur purple on your screen?

Oh thats a diff server dw

Not u

[magic summit]

@fringe sigil Check GitHub.
I've made a PR to add a readme.md and a copyright.md

[arctic raptor]

I was tagged?

[jagged pollen]

yea

[magic summit]

@fringe sigil That page could also be usefull https://choosealicense.com/no-permission/

Because it states, that by default is any code without a copyright-notice under a exclusive copyright (all rights reserved)

🤷

Getting members isn't difficult

Having an active guild is more the issue

[fringe sigil]

Thanks for the commits, I’m gonna look into licenses more tommorow

[magic summit]

idk how to get members @fallow crow

I have a guild for my bot, so... that's a way I guess...

Having a support-guild for your bot 😛

[mental lichen]

Has anyone made a shift farting plugin that releases smoke particles

i need one

[late schooner]

Whoever has made this deserves nothing

[magic summit]

[fringe sigil]

Lol

[hazy fern]

This is something I would spend the time to create

I'm sure millions would use it

[magic summit]

@fringe sigil btw. Looks like you can't really set your resource under copyright, since Holographic Displays is under GPL which grants rights to the own software aswell as to all software using it (all add-ons)

[fringe sigil]

Ah that’s a good point

[magic summit]

Had a discussion with luck about that

[fringe sigil]

I forgot that add-ons need to be GPL as well

[magic summit]

rights are:

• Commercial use
• Distribution
• Modification
• Patent use
• Private use

[late schooner]

Niall, what does this do?

  group-refresh:
    enabled: true
    interval: 100
    check-world-change: true```

[gleaming scroll]

so uh

glare is drunk

but doesn't think he is

https://i.imgur.com/nk6aD3B.png https://i.imgur.com/5MSj0pg.png

[late schooner]

Tell him to walk in a straight line

[magic summit]

😕

[fringe sigil]

@late schooner interval to check board groups

[gleaming scroll]

https://i.imgur.com/vY76lb7.png

defo drunk

[fringe sigil]

Checks if permissions have been changed

[gleaming scroll]

he's now throwing snowballs

[magic summit]

I guess Imgur embeds are broken since other images work

[gleaming scroll]

yeah

think so

[fringe sigil]

Lol

[regal juniper]

Oh hey guys @fringe sigil @gleaming scroll @magic summit @late schooner

[late schooner]

Hey

[fringe sigil]

???

lol

[gleaming scroll]

dont question glare rn

[late schooner]

async-scheduling: true```And this?

[fringe sigil]

Makes tasks async

[gleaming scroll]

async in minecraft is a bad idea

[fringe sigil]

So they won’t run off main thread

It works in KiteBoard 99.9% of time

[late schooner]

Meaning?

[magic summit]

@gleaming scroll Why?

[fringe sigil]

Aka no lagg

[gleaming scroll]

minecraft's almost entirely single threaded

[magic summit]

You wish that 😂

[gleaming scroll]

client-side i mean

[fringe sigil]

Ah

[magic summit]

Still 😂

[regal juniper]

It's triple-trheadded

[gleaming scroll]

trying to throw too much at it when done async ends badly

[fringe sigil]

We talking server side

[regal juniper]

Each one of these is a thread

[fringe sigil]

Oof

[gleaming scroll]

iirc what fawe does for instance is updates all the blocks in async then sends to client at once

async without crashing the client

[regal juniper]

We have 1 ball for each gender

If you can count them up, you can figure out how many genders we have.

[gleaming scroll]

as i said

glare is currently under the influence

[regal juniper]

I just burped

[late schooner]

You're drunk, go home

[gleaming scroll]

didn't you say it's 4pm?

[regal juniper]

4:53PM

[gleaming scroll]

you're supposed to wait until 8

this is a quote from a bukkit staff member btw

[hazy fern]

Wait there's only 2 genders

[gleaming scroll]

Async events are not running as part of the minecraft thread. A good way of judging if you should be calling a method from an async event is asking yourself “does this method change or query something in-game?” If the answer is yes, you probably shouldn’t be doing it. Permission checks are not safe, as are many other methods. Pretty much, if you’re not certain, don’t.
Examples of valid ways to deal with various async features:
AsyncChat: Format the chat with your formatter. Use cached information about the player to format the chat.
AsyncPrelogin: Query an external database (async is perfect for this, the delay in reply won’t lag the server) to determine if that username or IP can join.
Async task: Update a MySQL database with new data.```

@hazy fern no there's 17

or 53

or 500

"There's more genders out there than people alive on this planet"

[hazy fern]

I was gonna say I identify as Arabian bread

Racist morons

No wait sexist

Wait no idk

[gleaming scroll]

basically glare

[late schooner]

2 sexes and 2 genders

You can't say "I am neither" unless you are genetically made neither

[gleaming scroll]

i want to identify as the colour red are you trying to stop me thats sexist youre arrested

[late schooner]

@fringe sigil You can use this for your config.yml https://paste.helpch.at/ikulepofol.bash

[regal juniper]

Thank you

[fringe sigil]

Thanks

You forgot to close a string lol

[late schooner]

Someone was looking for a commented version

[mental lichen]

so about that farting plugin

[fringe sigil]

Oh who?

[mental lichen]

let's get down to brass tacks

[fringe sigil]

lmao

[late schooner]

IDK, just some dude

[fringe sigil]

Where lol

[late schooner]

Where?

[fringe sigil]

I never see people ask except in pms

[mental lichen]

yeah where is the farting plugin

[late schooner]

Which line did I mess up?

Never mind, I see it

[fringe sigil]

Ok

lol

[mental lichen]

You messed up every line that doesn't have to do with a farting plugin

[late schooner]

I think you forgot to do that on GitHub

[fringe sigil]

@late schooner where did you see that guy ask for a commented version

[late schooner]

#general-plugins

[fringe sigil]

Ah

[late schooner]

He figured it out I believe

[fringe sigil]

I should really look in there more often

[late schooner]

general:
  enable-config: true
  config-version: 4
  enable-notices: true
  enable-update-check: true
settings:
  server-time-format: hh:mm:ss
  group-refresh:
    enabled: true
    interval: 100
    check-world-change: true
  board-reinstate:
    enabled: false
    interval: 20
  scoreboard-show-delay: 20
  async-scheduling: true
  update-method: SIDEBAR_V2
features:
  show-no-board-available-message: false
  tablist:
    enabled: true
    header:
      frames:
      - \n&e&lWelcome to\n&7====== <glow start="&e&l" middle="&6&l" end="&e&l">Kite
        Network</glow> &7======\n
      - \n&e&lWelcome to\n&7====== <pulse color="yellow">&lKite Network</pulse> &7======\n
      interval: 2
    footer:
      frames:
      - '\n&7Used ram: &f%server_ram_used%\n&7Total ram: &f%server_ram_max%\n&o&7Powered
        By <rainbow>&lKiteBoard</rainbow>\n'
      interval: 4
  welcome-message:
    enabled: true
    title:
      frames:
      - <glow start="&e&l" middle="&6&l" end="&e&l">KiteBoard</glow>
      - |-
        <pulse color="yellow>&lKiteBoard</pulse>
      interval: 3
    subtitle:
      frames:
      - <rainbow>Welcome Back, {Player}</rainbow>
      interval: 10
  actionbar-welcome:
    enabled: true
    frames:
    - <glow start="&e&l" middle="&6&l" end="&e&l">Welcome</glow> &7&l&o{player}
    - '&7&lWelcome <rainbow>&l&o{player}</rainbow>'
    interval: 3```

That's the GitHub one

        <pulse color="yellow>&lKiteBoard</pulse>```

You did forget it

[fringe sigil]

Oh

[regal juniper]

@gleaming scroll How I imagine your friend

[fringe sigil]

Capri sun?

[late schooner]

I could add a bit more to the top, like the GitHub link and download page

[dapper fox]

Capri Sun is a juice pouch kids drink

it’s addicting

[magic summit]

@fringe sigil

[fringe sigil]

Yeah sure

[fringe sigil]

Lol I know what Capri sun is

[magic summit]

What do you think about my idea in #minecraft ?

[fringe sigil]

I couldn’t even say that

What idea?

The discord guilds one?

[fringe sigil]

Lol

[magic summit]

@fringe sigil ^

[fringe sigil]

My fav songs

[dapper fox]

I like the idea, Andre

[magic summit]

That way I can destroy even more hopes and dreams

[fringe sigil]

@regal juniper these are literally songs I was listening to earlier

[magic summit]

That such licenses even exist 😂 http://www.wtfpl.net/

😂

        DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE 
                    Version 2, December 2004 

 Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar <[e-mail]> 

 Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim or modified 
 copies of this license document, and changing it is allowed as long 
 as the name is changed. 

            DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE 
   TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR COPYING, DISTRIBUTION AND MODIFICATION 

  0. You just DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO.

[fringe sigil]

Lmao

Also can I refer people here for help with my plugins?

[magic summit]

Sure.

[fringe sigil]

Or is it mainly place holder api focused

Okay thanks

[magic summit]

That's a general help discord, that isn't for just one specific plugin

[late schooner]

@fringe sigil https://paste.helpch.at/oyumazewov.coffeescript YEET

[fringe sigil]

Awesome

Could you GitHub it so I don’t forget lol

[late schooner]

Done

[fringe sigil]

Thanks

[magic summit]

If I have time, I'll make a own version of that config (my style :3)

[fringe sigil]

oOo

[late schooner]

NO

I worked hard

[magic summit]

Ok. I won't do one, because my style wouldn't work with it

[mental lichen]

bb send feet pictures kthx

[fringe sigil]

lol

wrong person?

[mental lichen]

This channel is my bb

[late schooner]

LOL! Falcon upvoted his post

[fringe sigil]

Lol

[mental lichen]

Lol

[fringe sigil]

Why’s Gary always downvoting?

[mental lichen]

Yeah Gary is mean :(

[magic summit]

He also upvotes

So I guess he's neutral...?

[fringe sigil]

l

[mental lichen]

no h*cks on my christian server

[fringe sigil]

oh

Niall7459 was licked from server

*kicked

[mental lichen]

👅

[magic summit]

Stop licking the members server

[mental lichen]

👅 👅 👅

[magic summit]

Reminds me of a comment I saw.

Comment: "First lick xD"
Response: "Stop licking the screen timmy"

[fringe sigil]

Lolol

[mental lichen]

http://www.sanger.dk/

You want licking you say?

Check that out ^^

[fallow crow]

Eh so tired I had an awful sleep

[late schooner]

@fringe sigil I don't think this is good https://paste.helpch.at/ijebaguler.bash

Crashes the scoreboard

[late schooner]

Why are you @ing me?

[late schooner]

Immature

@untold socket Can you just mute this kid?

Keeps @ing me

You have done something awful

Yet

Wasd, I used the wrong /. I was supposed to use \

Why must you do this ;-;

[untold socket]

you can menu click on his name and choose ignore

[late schooner]

I have very few people blocked, but thanks

[regal juniper]

@gleaming scroll I'm actually a little drunk now

[fringe sigil]

oh

[boreal escarp]

now

[fringe sigil]

hext is open sourced

in fact, its required to be open sourced, since HolographicDisplays uses GPL

[fringe sigil]

@magic summit I have deleted copyright.md because were required to use GPL

[boreal escarp]

[sterile kiln]

anything interesting going on?

[boreal escarp]

hi vk

[sterile kiln]

hello.

i'm here just to hang around to chat 😉

wow so many people on this server.

[boreal escarp]

Yup

I wish we were accepted as discord partners

[sterile kiln]

lol

have you approached them?

[boreal escarp]

I think so

[mental lichen]

:(

[sterile kiln]

now , has many people moved to 1.13.x ?

[mental lichen]

1.13 is unstable

[sterile kiln]

or many are still sticking with 1.8?

[boreal escarp]

Personal i'm waiting for more plugins to be updated to 1.13.x

[sterile kiln]

ya, there are lots of bugs...

[boreal escarp]

1.13.1 is stable iirc

[sterile kiln]

i had to put so many workarounds in my plugins.

1.13.1??

[mental lichen]

i'm excited for 1.14 because they're fixing a lot of stuff

[boreal escarp]

1.13.2 is already a thing vk

[mental lichen]

especially chunk loading

[sterile kiln]

really i can crash the clients in 1.13.1 .....

ya, 13.2 is getting there

[boreal escarp]

Is annoying that before, with a bit of luck you could use old plugins on new versions, but now is almost impossible 😐

[sterile kiln]

still there are many patchy stuff in NMS

na all my plugins work on all versions.

[boreal escarp]

yours

[sterile kiln]

if i can do it, anyone can 😉

[mental lichen]

aw yea

[sterile kiln]

just java code

[mental lichen]

I like how the development of viaversion is going for 1.13

[sterile kiln]

ya, i feel sorry for them

[boreal escarp]

yeah

But they are doing a great job

[sterile kiln]

who's working on packet/protocol related issues..

ya.

[mental lichen]

probably a ton of work

[boreal escarp]

They got supported by hivemc and jetbrains iirc

[sterile kiln]

must be very frustrating when you see inconsistent implementation across different major versions.

nice.

[fallow crow]

Hm what does iirc mean?

[boreal escarp]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=iirc

[fallow crow]

Ah right ty

[mental lichen]

That was quick

[boreal escarp]

https://i.gabytm.cf/img/2018-10-27_11-22-51.png

[fallow crow]

Yup

[mental lichen]

Gaby is a bot confirmed

[boreal escarp]

[fallow crow]

Agreed

[sterile kiln]

wonder what kind of sponsership they get.

[boreal escarp]

Same

I think new computers and stuff

[fallow crow]

And probs money

[sterile kiln]

i get free copy from jetbrain, unlimited atlassian, github private repo

[mental lichen]

or just money and testing or something

[sterile kiln]

should I start mention their names???

and good deal from local OVH.

having OVH in the same city is very nice 😉

[boreal escarp]

well, some of you guys deserve to be supported

that atlassian look cool

[sterile kiln]

ya, it's local too

now many of my former students work there 😉

[boreal escarp]

students?

are you a professor irl or?

cool

[sterile kiln]

do you know the game World of Tank?

[boreal escarp]

yeah

[sterile kiln]

or very old L.A Noir?

[boreal escarp]

nope

[mental lichen]

Support me for free cake and cookies

[fallow crow]

Me too we worked hard on it

[mental lichen]

I don't provide the cake and cookies you steal them yourself

[sterile kiln]

he spends most of time flying to Russia.

[mental lichen]

sooka bleeat

[sterile kiln]

we need more young Software Engineers.

so that we can retire.

[boreal escarp]

how do you still have time to develop for minecraft

[mental lichen]

the world is running short on developers

[sterile kiln]

i do coding practice every day.

so, may as well do plugin development

[boreal escarp]

Id like to go to a school for developers, if you know what I mean

that sounds fun

[sterile kiln]

i need to be able to do things without asking Google nor StackOverflow..

[mental lichen]

Stack overflow is not friendly to new developers

You do one thing and they criticise a million other things about your code when you just want to know one thing about it

[sterile kiln]

haha

there is no quality assurance behind response you get on those platforms.

how many placeholder extentions out there now?

[fringe sigil]

Internet relay chat

[sterile kiln]

must be tons now.

[fallow crow]

Yeah there’s lots

Idek how many but eh

[fringe sigil]

Hmm I might purchase a digital ocean droplet running windows xp

I already have a small linux one

Anyone want to sponser me?

[mental lichen]

Buy Windows ME then I'll sponsor you

[fringe sigil]

Buy

www.thepiratebay.org

[mental lichen]

U WOT

[fringe sigil]

lmao jks

[mental lichen]

TRIGGERED

[fringe sigil]

it got shutdown didnt it

[mental lichen]

huh

[sterile kiln]

are viaversion and protocolsupport ready for 1.13.2?

[mental lichen]

Yeah there's an official release for 1.13.2 support on viaversion

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/viaversion.19254/update?update=249239

[fringe sigil]

Ahh digital ocean wont support windows images

[sterile kiln]

most that sort of services don't

probably because of the licensing issue.

? why my name is in purple???

[fringe sigil]

Developer

[sterile kiln]

na, i'm hanging around here to chat.. not as a developer.

[fringe sigil]

@sterile kiln Yeah it was due to licensing issues

[fallow crow]

Vk gg on dev

[sterile kiln]

no, i don't need to be on dev.

i'm here to relax.

[muted fern]

Fair enough

[fallow crow]

Hm you’re the only dev I’ve seen not request to be dev

[sterile kiln]

@fringe sigil you can get windows image on Azure, right?

[fringe sigil]

I assume so

Since its a microsoft product

But I've heard that there rather expensive

[sterile kiln]

@muted fern thanks, tho.

but i will mostly joining in the general chat in this channel.

[muted fern]

Understandable, enjoy your stay.

[sterile kiln]

tx

[fallow crow]

tbh I only use this and plugin help not a dev sadly

[sterile kiln]

anyone who's "working" on minecraft should learn to code.

[fallow crow]

Mhm I’m learning java not plugins tho

[sterile kiln]

learning java is a start.

[fallow crow]

Gonna learn java before rushing into it

Yeah

[fringe sigil]

Learn java first, I speak from experience

[sterile kiln]

just spend 30 min every day for two weeks.

then move onto start coding plugin

[fringe sigil]

Or you end up learning it after like i did :/

Lukily I picked it up rather easy

[fallow crow]

Yeah I find it a bit harder

Not gonna give up tho xd

[sterile kiln]

look, can you cook by following someone's recipe?

if your answer is "yes", then that means you can read someone's code

[fallow crow]

yep

[sterile kiln]

if you can write a recipe for someone else to cook, then

you can code.

[fallow crow]

although with cooking I make my own instead

one of my hobbies

[sterile kiln]

coding is just like cooking.

[fringe sigil]

wait

this cannot be true??

[fallow crow]

?

[boreal escarp]

129 expansions vk

[sterile kiln]

wow.

[boreal escarp]

Showing 51 to 100 of 129 entries

[fallow crow]

did you spend all that time looking xd

And woah

Scam?

[fringe sigil]

https://fxdata.cloud

[boreal escarp]

I was eating luke

[sterile kiln]

129, has anyone made auto expansion generator?

[fallow crow]

ahhh right

[boreal escarp]

no .. ?

[sterile kiln]

someone should 😉

[boreal escarp]

Be my guest 🙃

[sterile kiln]

scan a plugin, and auto generate a new expansion

[boreal escarp]

Vk, where do you live?

[fallow crow]

Niall that can’t be real

[sterile kiln]

sydney.

[boreal escarp]

o

[sterile kiln]

i will be driving around Europe early next year.

taking 6 weeks vacation.

[boreal escarp]

6 weeks, damn

[sterile kiln]

ya, i accumulated so many annual leaves.

i'm pretty much forced to take annual leave.

[fringe sigil]

😦

[boreal escarp]

haha lol vk

[fringe sigil]

Rip frank

[sterile kiln]

i also have 6months long service leave to be used as well.

[boreal escarp]

niall, you can buy a OVH SSD VPS for 15$

[sterile kiln]

am planning to combine it with my sabbatical leave to make 1year leave 😉

[boreal escarp]

8GB RAM and 80GB Disk

[fringe sigil]

do they do cheaper

[boreal escarp]

damn

[fringe sigil]

I just wanna host a windows for fun

[fallow crow]

Niall told you it’s a scam

[sterile kiln]

ovh is good

i got all mine when they had 50% discount.

[boreal escarp]

oo

[fringe sigil]

OVH will they have good uptime?

as in, 100%

[sterile kiln]

ya pretty much

never had any issue with them.

[boreal escarp]

https://www.ovh.com/world/vps/vps-ssd.xml

[fringe sigil]

They have a cheaper plan, but it doesnt let me select Windows 😦

[boreal escarp]

RIP

https://www.ovh.com/world/vps/operating-system.xml

[fringe sigil]

I want windows Nt

lol

[sterile kiln]

why do you need windows?

[boreal escarp]

ah https://www.ovh.com/world/vps/vps-cloud.xml

@fringe sigil

[fallow crow]

Anyone heard of thing new gaming thing, you pay a certain fee a month and you can play games on like high settings and get super high FPS by playing on the company’s servers

Forgot what it’s called

[boreal escarp]

WIN is expensive than LINUX but yea

[fringe sigil]

@fallow crow ye i have it

Nvidia GeForce NOW

[fallow crow]

is it any good?

[fringe sigil]

Its alright yes, But you will need good internet

90% of the time its fine

but it can glitch sometimes

[boreal escarp]

how does this work lul

[fallow crow]

You play on their servers

Through le internet

[boreal escarp]

I do have an intel integrated GPU, I guess it wont work for me, right?

[fringe sigil]

itl work fine

[fallow crow]

It works for any pc pretty sure

[fringe sigil]

i have an intel 2.7ghz HD graphics 3000

I dont know if thats great or not, but it couldnt run fortnite

as long as the IDEs work im okay.

[boreal escarp]

I can't run fortknife too

[fringe sigil]

forkknife

[mental lichen]

fork knife is bad

[boreal escarp]

I may be, but Id like to play it once

[fringe sigil]

Do OVH accept paypal payment?

[sterile kiln]

ofc

[boreal escarp]

is your website down vk?

[sterile kiln]

my website?

[fringe sigil]

@sterile kiln what plan and operating system do you have with them?

[sterile kiln]

i dont' have a website.

i always run Debian.

[boreal escarp]

vk2gpz.com

[fringe sigil]

hmm Digital Ocean vs OVH then?

[sterile kiln]

i don't have web server running for it.

[boreal escarp]

ah

[sterile kiln]

i thought about running it but could not think of what to run on it...

i could run software shop and programming tutorial site.

[fringe sigil]

I once thought about making my plugins configurable through webpanels etc...

[mental lichen]

Ew

[fringe sigil]

But just security would probably be a problem

[mental lichen]

What do you mean live editing

[sterile kiln]

well, minecraft/spigot itself is not secure anyway.

[fringe sigil]

Sort of thing

[mental lichen]

So as you edit it updates?

[fringe sigil]

Ye

[mental lichen]

What if you did it like luckperms

That's not live but allows editing of permissions

[fringe sigil]

I havnt used luckperms yet

ok

[boreal escarp]

you may

[mental lichen]

So like you make your changes on the web gui, click save and it gives you a command to apply edits

[sterile kiln]

ya, i'm thinking about doing that for my TokenEnchant

[mental lichen]

Don't do live editing

[sterile kiln]

so that people can pick which custom enchants to install on their server and auto install/configure them.

[mental lichen]

What if you did something like papi ecloud for that vk2

[fringe sigil]

Yeah I was thinking more, the web interface is hosted at my server

Which reduces the configuration etc of having a local interface

[boreal escarp]

some of his enchantments are premium

[fringe sigil]

PocketMine-MP plugins

lol

[mental lichen]

Premium enchantments 🤔

[sterile kiln]

ya, i would need to integrate shop function.

[fringe sigil]

Its actually active

[sterile kiln]

i introduced that addon framework so that other developers can start selling their custom enchants...

but spigot did not like that model and introduced the new rule.

killing all future premium custom enchants

[boreal escarp]

wattt

for what reason ..?

[mental lichen]

u wot

[sterile kiln]

any new model I attempt to use, they come up with a new rule to prevent it. 😭

[boreal escarp]

You can't make new premium enchantments or?

[sterile kiln]

some of you might have noticed that I haven't released premium resources for ages.

[boreal escarp]

You can try sell them on your website

[fringe sigil]

@sterile kiln whats the new rule?

[sterile kiln]

no more premium enchants.

are allowed.

[mental lichen]

hang about are you qualified to get developer role on here

[sterile kiln]

ya, we're selling on different sites.

[boreal escarp]

he can get the dev role if he plan to stay around

[sterile kiln]

the most annoying thing is not allowing a decent anti leak system.

[boreal escarp]

^^

[fringe sigil]

Yeah i used to think that

[boreal escarp]

I don't think that your system was their biggest problem atm

[fringe sigil]

But then I just came to think theres no point

[sterile kiln]

but as long as we release them on spigot, we have to go along with their rule.

[fringe sigil]

Where else do you sell through?

I would spend more money paying for that than I actually earn lol

[boreal escarp]

Do the rule apply only to the plugins like your (with premium addons)? Or to any premium enchantments plugin

You can try MCM I guess

or host your own shop

[mental lichen]

How have they not taken down that other spigot site that leaks plugins yet

[sterile kiln]

apply to premium addon

[boreal escarp]

Too much work I guess + spigot don't care

[sterile kiln]

not just custom enchants, any premium addons, which are addons for another premium resoruce.

[boreal escarp]

amazing ..

[sterile kiln]

md_5 used to be more helpful but i think it's getting too much for spigot.

so we have to protect our resoruce within their rule.

[boreal escarp]

That's bs

I heard that you can't make plugins that require some kind of activation 😐

[sterile kiln]

luckily leakers only managed to leak non-working version so far 😉

[mental lichen]

I hate leakers

[sterile kiln]

whatever tampering they do breaks plugins.

[mental lichen]

They add a bunch of RATs

[boreal escarp]

I'm pretty sure you can find a working version of your plugin on bsmc

[sterile kiln]

not the latest release.

[boreal escarp]

true

[mental lichen]

most leaked plugins have RATs in them

[sterile kiln]

those latest one do not work.

[boreal escarp]

I like maxim's system, /fb about

Where is typed a link to the owner of resource if isn't cracked

[sterile kiln]

i'm not doing anything special, just using the injection spigot makes.

[fallow crow]

What kind of cheapskates would use cracked plugins

[mental lichen]

desperate people

[sterile kiln]

many people do.

[boreal escarp]

People that want to make servers and don't have money lmao

[sterile kiln]

some legit user might try thing out before purchase.

[boreal escarp]

And which don't know that you can use free plugins 😐

[sterile kiln]

but that's why we provide a test server.

[boreal escarp]

QuickBoard instead Featherboard for example

[sterile kiln]

i don't run business out of plugins so i don't really care but having fun making them scratch their heads.

[mental lichen]

Did you say spigot bans plugins requiring activation? Even premium ones?

[sterile kiln]

activation system is not allowed

[boreal escarp]

They don't allow them

[fallow crow]

Why tf

[boreal escarp]

Bannerboard author is smart, and make the activation system half needed imo

[mental lichen]

But it would be so good if people could get purchase IDs that would enable usage of plugins

[sterile kiln]

they can put any rule as they wish.

[boreal escarp]

^

[sterile kiln]

they don't really need to explain why

[boreal escarp]

Would you move to a better website, vk?

[sterile kiln]

if you need to, you can come with many legit reasons.

if there is one.

[mental lichen]

Thing is tho is there any better website?

Spigot is pretty popular and dev bukkit is pretty much dead

[sterile kiln]

i'm secretly hoping maxim starts his plugin shop site 😉

[boreal escarp]

Andre had an attempt

dead?

[fallow crow]

It’s hard to beat spigot and bukkit

Because they’re so well known

[mental lichen]

Hey talking about the DMCA takedown thing by wolverness for bukkit years ago, do you think it was justified at all

[sterile kiln]

lol

[mental lichen]

gotta say i was a bit annoyed

[sterile kiln]

you just need to move on

[fringe sigil]

Hmmm maxim would ban KiteBoard lol

competitor

[sterile kiln]

lol

[mental lichen]

is it premium

[fringe sigil]

Lol featherboard is way up

[fallow crow]

Probably not ban

Fb is extremely popular

[fringe sigil]

KiteBoard is premium yes

4000 downloads

[fallow crow]

Kb is quite popular aswell

[fringe sigil]

X 15$

== lots of money

[mental lichen]

Kiteboard is $0.99 bro

[fallow crow]

Sale

[fringe sigil]

sale

[fallow crow]

took advantage of that sale

xd

[fringe sigil]

Usually £5

[fallow crow]

Got kiteboard and kitebar

[mental lichen]

o

[fringe sigil]

I mean I don’t think spigot would approve of an alternative site

[sterile kiln]

that's none of their business

[fringe sigil]

Oof

[sterile kiln]

if someone wish to start a new site.

[mental lichen]

loool Maxim

[fringe sigil]

Lol

[sterile kiln]

lol

that's we normally do

not to provide support through review.

[fringe sigil]

It’s. 5 star review lol

[mental lichen]

deleted message wy

[fringe sigil]

I’m sure you easily could

[mental lichen]

Spigot needs to make official review rules

[sterile kiln]

would love to see digitally signed plugin management system

[mental lichen]

no stack traces in reviews for example

[fringe sigil]

Would the site be xenforo/forum based or literally just a plugin store.

[mental lichen]

the heck happened to buycraft while I died

[boreal escarp]

If you can get some developers on your site then others will trust you as well

[fringe sigil]

@sterile kiln ^

Would the site be xenforo/forum based or literally just a plugin store.

[sterile kiln]

i'm thinking about making a system, which to be integrated into spigot

to manage digitally signed plugin.

[muted fern]

Would be very hard to move people away from spigot

[sterile kiln]

so if someone tempered the plugin, it will notify .

[fallow crow]

Yep

[sterile kiln]

no, absolutely no point in competing

you just need to identify "different" market

[fringe sigil]

Hmm

I recently made HolographicExtension open sourced

Now is that a good idea

[sterile kiln]

it all depends

[boreal escarp]

vk is right

[sterile kiln]

most depndable pickup is chevie?

not ram?

[fringe sigil]

I didn’t quite get that

[sterile kiln]

sorry, i was watching us tv...

when I used to live there i thought ram was more popular.

i know some developers approached mc-market to deploy a security system better than spigot one, but was not successful.

[fringe sigil]

How would you set aside a different market

[boreal escarp]

We may need something for plugins only, idk

[fringe sigil]

Hmm

[sterile kiln]

i know there are tons of minecraft servers but there are many different scales.

some are very professional making lots of money doing actual business.

some are bit more smaller scale

and many are very small scale (a few hundreds to a few thousands user base).

higher the business value the servers have, security/quality would be more important.

[boreal escarp]

very small scale (a few hundreds to a few thousands user base)

[sterile kiln]

also there could be plugin/map/design market to serve private orders but again at different professional levels.

are they too small?