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pseudo sigil
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Ohh that, I left home like literally 5 minutes after I made it, If I had the time I probably would've fixed it with a pull request

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But hey now I'm the first issue 🙃

arctic olive
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Hello @pseudo sigil

pseudo sigil
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Uhh hi? @arctic olive

arctic olive
pseudo sigil
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Why the ping??

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Depending on the question-

arctic olive
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Nvm, your about says unavailable for any questions.

pseudo sigil
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No no go ahead

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You were polite enough

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Just don't expect me to give essay answers lmao

arctic olive
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Can I ask in dm?

pseudo sigil
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Uhh sure

sullen sorrel
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🤔

arctic olive
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@idle galleon that's really nice

idle galleon
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thanks 🙂

woven prairie
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Just a quick one. What would you guys expect a 350 player server with Survival and SkyBlock that's somewhat P2W (but not crazy) to make monthly?

trim raft
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2-3k?

vague walrus
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I like talking to so I'll toss my 2c, but you should probably ignore it because it's not based on anything tangible.

I would anticipate that about 20% of the playerbase would spend money per month (consider it a general average)
So about 70 players -- Which I would expect your cart probably averages out to $15-20 a person (again general average)
So ~$1,050-1200 Is about what I would imagine on the lower end.

woven prairie
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Interesting 😭

idle galleon
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some servers have mentally insane playerbases that dump their entire life savings into them, which could drastically inflate the numbers. I think purple prisons has that.

idle galleon
trim raft
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

unreal venture
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bruh hypixel over a mil per month? that sounds insane 💀

trim raft
blazing oar
arctic olive
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Hypixel didn't really get $1m tho.

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These people are too sick to know about that instead making their own opinion.

hearty wren
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hypixel pays devs starting at like 80k too

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(i forgot where my source is for that but heard a while ago)

long summit
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I have some doubts that the pay starts at 80k, maybe for Hytale but doubt for Hypixel

boreal escarp
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Damn, 80k$/month?

dusky summit
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year

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lmfao

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a month 💀 bros be jeff bezos

arctic olive
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That's a year not a month lmao

boreal escarp
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Ah ok lmao

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Welp, that's 6.6k/mo, I should've done the math xD

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I did not slept enough, ok? kekW

arctic olive
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How about paying the administrator? Sys Admins? Managements? & etc?

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"Thinking outside of the box"

proper jungle
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@idle galleon that's so cool. Is it gonna be a startup or something

proper jungle
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like 25$/h?

long summit
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That would be almost $40/h

boreal escarp
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Yeah

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6600$/160h

stark rapids
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Yo any of you guys own any companies?

unreal venture
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did yall see the photoshop ai?

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its been all over tiktok and its craaaazy

vagrant pike
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AI this AI that

fallow crow
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but still, adobe firefly is still my #1 favorite tho

frank pasture
fallow crow
frank pasture
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Oh wow

blazing oar
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which isn't that far away of 80k lol

vagrant pike
twin dune
vagrant pike
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no

trim raft
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omg he looks so happy aww peepoHappyLove

fallow crow
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Someone in the server requested me to re-create a hangman game using deluxemenus.

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Tho I'm good at finding idea to write config but

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oh brother, I'm not on that level of knowledge to create that...

blazing oar
long summit
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That make more sense, my sentence still stands, doubt the salaries start at that amount

blazing oar
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yeah

idle galleon
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Planning on adding Google ads and advertising it to make some profit to pay for school and other related expenses

tacit nova
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Btw, ads won't cut it

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Especially if you want a useful income without having millions of MV

storm hornet
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@limpid estuary Your dms are closed (:

limpid estuary
storm hornet
tacit nova
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Lol

fallow crow
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lol

storm hornet
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@limpid estuary

limpid estuary
storm hornet
frank pasture
storm hornet
naive agate
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Ay w

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@normal sable

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Look LMAOOO

stark rapids
idle galleon
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Still working on that

unreal venture
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do you guys know how to disable this thing in spigot.yml?

vagrant pike
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unknown-command: ''?

boreal escarp
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Looking nice riches

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I assume you are running a custom software?

idle galleon
tacit nova
idle galleon
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as I said I am still working on that

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and I can just to like amazon and do the referral thing, or just go to a supplement company and join their referral program

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I havent even made a AdSense account

tacit nova
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If you can sustain without ads, or little ads, it would be the best

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since afaik ads are a major downturn for non adblock users

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subscriptions are the best way to gain MRR from my experience, although you have to provide value which isn't always easy to do

boreal escarp
tacit nova
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yeah

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and the slick website i saw in the vid is beautiful

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i wouldnt want it cluttered with ads

boreal escarp
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I would place them on the sides tbf, the content is already focused on the center

tacit nova
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and thats where it should be

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but with ads there would be too many focus points

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although ads may need to be placed as the website states that its free

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which i think isnt ideal for a side hustle making a little money

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but as long as its fun

boreal escarp
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a subscription for such thing would be hard to promote tbh

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the competition is pretty big for sure, and you need something solid

naive agate
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EZ

pseudo sigil
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Scam

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I want that

naive agate
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I applied over a year ago

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bruh originally I was suppose to get like 300

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to many fuckers joined

boreal escarp
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what happened?

naive agate
boreal escarp
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ah welp xD

naive agate
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lol

magic summit
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Every sane country (So everyone except USA) considers guns dangerous and only something adults should have access to.

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Like I seriously only know the USA who is legit fine with 6 years olds holding and using weapons that can kill someone...

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And they consider it "freedom"

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Like sometimes I feel like the actual reason people discovered america was by accident after europe tried to throw out everyone with room temperature IQs...

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||It's a joke... Chill. Tho I also consider it kinda the truth||

blazing oar
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it's simply facts, USA's freedom is just an ilusion

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it all is

magic summit
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Someone linked a "game" in the replies... topia

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Looks and smells like a MC rip-off wanna-be

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And at a first glance does it seem to encourage and have NFTs.... So off to a good start already

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Tho not sure on the last one

vague walrus
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Weird that mojang feels a need to control content so strictly

magic summit
magic summit
vague walrus
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Gun safety and removing guns in game are two different things.
Conflating the two is silly

magic summit
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Idk.

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People complain about swords also being a weapon, yet it's included by Mojang

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But there is a difference between using a heavy sheet of metal irl vs a literal point-and-click weapon.

vague walrus
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Just feels reactionary, I'd like to see some consideration for real world solutions.
Overall idc, I don't even play mc, but it does feel silly.

magic summit
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Also, this may have been a thing for a while, but it just took a while to get properly reported.

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It's a legally dangerous area for mojang to step in and request changes for servers

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Also, also, just consider parents for a moment. Their child plays MC and all of a sudden they see them on that server, using a gun to shoot and kill others... Not every parent is as rational and says "Yeah. It's a game, they won't start doing this irl". Parents (sadly) still have the mindset that games can influence us badly. Especially when they have guns.

boreal escarp
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❄️

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In the meantime they play csgo, valorant, COD, gta, any other fucking game that has guns lmao

magic summit
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Who knows

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I for my part can't look at other families and see what their literal 13 year olds do

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It's not my job after all

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I just state the fact that there are still parents thinking games turn children into killers

vague walrus
magic summit
vague walrus
blazing oar
# magic summit I mean... the past years became a lot more sensitive in various ways. Namely ide...

USA's shootings will never be solved, their own rights allow people to have guns, even if they have stricter background checks and whatsoever, guess what, doesn't matter, the USA already has more guns in the streets than it's own population lmao, making it harder to buy one won't simply make the other millions already purchased vanish. It's a good step for the very long term, but not a solution for now.

magic summit
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I understood your first sentence as it not being as bad as when it would be a official server, which makes sense.
But it wouldn't make it less of a problem.

These servers - no matter if official or not - represent Minecraft and by extension Mojang. And as we know already do news these days not care if something is official or not. They will drag the company through the mud no matter what.

Like, just imagine someone telling about this server to the news... They would be like "BREAKING! Mojang supports Servers that encourage gun violence!!!"

magic summit
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it would be top-tier comedy if it wasn't so true

blazing oar
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tbh, imo, the whole USA's system is completely delusional and americans sadly get manipulated by the governement at an high level lol. I can only remember of that video of a guy asking what he thinks about the USA being #1 and the answer is it isn't, in any category, besides shootings and some others lol

boreal escarp
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yeah they really think america is great lmao

magic summit
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The fact that a person like Trump can spit out war-level BS and the people still believe it and cause disasters like January 6th speaks volumes...
Like those people talked about Freedom and rights while basically breaking into the home where this "american freedom" was founded.

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I saw the recordings and man.... Even as a european did it hurt to see that.

trim raft
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January 6th MODS

magic summit
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Especially considering that people like police officers got injured there and almost killed because they did their duty.

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One guy had to scream out that he was a father to get those people stop kicking him on the ground...

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And people say America is great

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Just look at healthcare as another example.
Here in switzerland, I by law have a bare-level health insurance. No health insurance company can refuse me as a customer, even if I had the worst health issues imaginable.
Meanwhile in the USA, people have to pretty much take a morgage to pay for a health insurance.

As one of my teachers once said: "It's a prime example of how to not run a country"

vague walrus
vague walrus
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America is far from great, to be clear as to my stance as an American.

magic summit
vague walrus
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That needs an edit, sec

vague walrus
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BBB

magic summit
magic summit
full atlas
magic summit
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I mean, half the world thinks Trump is a lunatic and should never have been president at all.

naive agate
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sadly

full atlas
# magic summit I mean, half the world thinks Trump is a lunatic and should never have been pres...

Key word "thinks" alot of people don't do their own research and just rely on the biased opinions of others and social media as well as news outlets that literally mimic each other over and over.

Why do you think Trump keeps wining all these law suits and was never impeached. (I'm not gonna provide reasoning because then you would say my views are biased.)

Since you brought it up, someone who never should have been allowed in the white house is Joe Biden. He has proven his mental instability time and time again. He has shown lack of coordination simply walking or riding a bike. I didn't vote for him and I feel disgusted for the people that did.

Just to point out I did not vote for either party so I see both sides of the situation.

vague walrus
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Can't we criticize one person without assuming the other is immune to said criticism?

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Oh you're a centrist, nvm, I don't even care to discuss with you lmao.

magic summit
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He got a multi-million fine in the most recent court decision... But I can see the place you are, so I leave you in your little bubble. It will burst eventually making you fall to reality... really hard.

Like... Pretty much every country that isn't the USA agrees that January 6th was an event caused by Trump and that he constantly spits out lies about a lot of stuff. But whatever. Your opinion. I won't stay here and fight, because that would be a losing battle for me, since not everyone can be argued with.

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There are countless recordings made by the people on that event that proofs this btw.

full atlas
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It's almost like the fbi is being ridiculed for withholding hundreds (if not thousands) of videos of the event. But based on your last message you aren't willing to conversate on this topic. You just assume it will turn to an argument so that's up to you.

magic summit
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I won't argue here because I know you will come with whatever arguments people on Trump's side come up with.
Like you say the FBI witholds videos... Where is the undeniable truth made by multiple sources? Like all the claims I saw against trump being at fault here usually had no actual sources to back it up.
But whatever. As I said is this not a fight I'm willing to do because I save my energy for other things.

full atlas
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I know you will come up with whatever arguments people on Trump's side come up with.

It's not about sides. Their is fact and opinion. The facts show what actually happen. The opinion of others mask the facts until you actually research it for yourself. Which is hard to do with federal facility's also masking the facts. There are people that are working to provide the facts publicly so it will eventually come out. Unfortunately until then people like you will take sides. Unfortunate but that's what the world comes to 🤷

magic summit
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You would be surprised how many switch up those two and claim opinions as facts...
I have my side, you have yours. Lets leave it at that.

vague walrus
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Andre, just research "fbi is a bunch of liars believe me" and you'll have the truth!

twin dune
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Y'all should just have Count Binface as President.

full atlas
# twin dune

There was "shoe on head" or what ever his name was xD

vague walrus
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Vermin supreme

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Who made some really good points

twin dune
full atlas
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Even kanye said he was gonna run lmfao.

vague walrus
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I hope he doesnt

twin dune
vague walrus
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Last thing we need is more antisemitic propaganda

magic summit
# twin dune

The only person who can talk trash while being honest

twin dune
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They actually tried to become mayor of London recently and came like 4th.

magic summit
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One village iirc has a dog as major

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Like lol...

twin dune
trim raft
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I had no idea BitWarden had an option for 2FA keys inside of it, thats really fking cool

sullen sorrel
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i just use authy since it also has an android widget which is neat

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

trim raft
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sullen sorrel
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oh

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$1/month

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

trim raft
sullen sorrel
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oh

trim raft
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🙂

sullen sorrel
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💀

trim raft
sullen sorrel
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ok but

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what happens if you cancel the subscription

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🥲

trim raft
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idk i never have

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u could try it tho

sullen sorrel
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rip all 2fa codes 🥴

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oh

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it prob keeps

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but u cant add more

trim raft
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i would assume yes

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otherwise that'd be fucked

sullen sorrel
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lol

idle galleon
idle galleon
# tacit nova and the slick website i saw in the vid is beautiful

thanks, I am awful at UI design, spent countless hours perfecting it (to the best of my ability). I still feel like it is a little bland. Currently it does like a "your own pace" type documentation, and I want to make it dynamic, so if you are someone who already knows the basics and is looking to improve your efficiency or learn how to train with a different goal, it gives you a specific course for that, outside of the regular document. I dont want to generate plans for the people, as each person is unique and their body responds differently to exercises, but I think providing an easy to understand course that walks you through everything is a good idea. This would be under the paid tier, which would be like $5-10/month.

idle galleon
idle galleon
# boreal escarp the competition is pretty big for sure, and you need something solid

I agree, I am trying to build up a large database of information, and make it in an easy to understand format with no bullshit. That is something that there isnt much of. A lot of places can tell you what you need to do, just not how to apply it. They also try and sell you "6 pack in 1 week" type bullshit that just doesnt work. I aim for my website to be science and evidence based information, backed by modern day research that makes sense. I hope that every person walks away with the knowledge of exactly why what they are doing works, and how to use that information to make educated inferences on how to progress. Idk if this is all a rant, just trying to explain my idea and get some feedback.

maiden grove
magic summit
muted fern
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@maiden grove 🎉

vague walrus
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Multi-Spin time

stark rapids
magic summit
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It's a android app... so I assume yes? xD

storm hornet
magic summit
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Afaik no

young mortar
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three-factor 😌

frank pasture
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Hardware keys >>

young mortar
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yeah i've been meaning to get a Yubikey, but I didn't like either of the options

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the one that has a fingerprint scanner as well lacks a bunch of protocols and stuff

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and the other main one has all the protocols but doesn't have a fingerprint scanner

frank pasture
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Yeah I tried that, returned it, pretty terrible you can't do fuck all with it

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I have the USB C one

young mortar
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yeah the 5C NFC I think is the one I was planning on getting

frank pasture
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Recommend!! Get a backup tho ofc

young mortar
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but to be honest, having TOTP two factor is plenty for me right now, i don't really have any reason to go this overboard

frank pasture
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You can do TOTP on the yubi

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I prefer it as I don't trust app ones

young mortar
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yeah but I'm saying I don't need to spend $200 on hardware keys and carry them on me when my phone is already on me at all times

frank pasture
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Yeah I get you, i just struggle to trust those phone apps

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Esp shit like Authy where its saved in the cloud

young mortar
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I'm surprised you haven't made your own!

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The TOTP standard is actually pretty simple to implement iirc

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i read a whole whitepaper on it at one point

frank pasture
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Really?! Omg hahah

young mortar
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yeah you just need to scan a QR code and get the deets, then it stays synced based on time and everything

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no internet or anything required, super easy

frank pasture
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woah

young mortar
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here's an impl in 30 lines apparently

storm hornet
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if you have ICloud passwords

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that can do all the same

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Hardware keys, passwords, 2FA

young mortar
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huh?

storm hornet
# young mortar huh?

what is the purpose to use external software for passwords while you can use the built in

young mortar
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Authy isn't passwords, it's a separate two factor

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if you have it all in one place, that's not two factors

storm hornet
young mortar
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because I want to secure my other stuff?

storm hornet
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ICloud passwords has 2FA feature for your apps/sites

young mortar
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yeah but I use computers that aren't macs

storm hornet
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ah

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that is why

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makes sense

young mortar
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iCloud passwords isn't great for Windows or my university computers lmao

vague walrus
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Sacrilege

young mortar
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or Linux, even

vague walrus
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Apple isn't great for not Apple in general

boreal escarp
young mortar
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oh I mean trust me I quite like Apple, have an iPhone, Apple Watch, M1 Macbook Air, iPad, etc.

vague walrus
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I know, you're actually too much of a fan sometimes.

young mortar
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and regardless, I use 1Password for my actual password storage

young mortar
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keeping your factors as separate as possible is a smart thing to do

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cause you can do TOTP in 1Password

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but that kinda defeats the point if they're just both in the same place

storm hornet
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I mean, if someone serious will want to hack you they will do that anyway kekw

light scaffold
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thats a little reductive

vague walrus
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It's illegal for them to do that so I don't worry about it

storm hornet
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The most powerful hacking is when they put a gun to your head and ask for your passwords

young mortar
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you're much more likely to hack the service I'm signed into than physically steal my phone and hack your fingerprint into my touchID

vague walrus
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Not much of a hack

young mortar
boreal escarp
storm hornet
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I remember my root password which is 20 random characters

vague walrus
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Mistake you made

young mortar
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yeah but you need multiple other things to login to my 1Password

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moral of the story, anyone who wants to hack me would need to be in physical proximity to me

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which drastically, drastically, drastically reduces that ever happening

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whereas if iCloud gets hacked (as they have before), it's over for you lol

storm hornet
vague walrus
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Hey star what are you doing for Christmas

young mortar
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tell that to the celebrity nudes that got leaked lol

storm hornet
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my data is encrypted with my root password

storm hornet
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and now there is a feature to encrypt it too

young mortar
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you'd hope lol

storm hornet
young mortar
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"Turn On..."

storm hornet
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Well, I do not have nudes

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on my phone

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lmao

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so I do not have sense to turn it on

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only what I care about is passwords

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which are encrypted by default

young mortar
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i mean there's no guarantees lol

storm hornet
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I mean, if to think like you, there is no guarantees in anything

young mortar
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yeah there's not

vague walrus
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That's not true

young mortar
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that's why you diversify

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single point of failure, etc.

vague walrus
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Guaranteed I will slap you if I see you.

young mortar
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lol

storm hornet
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Bro got some eggs

vague walrus
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3 of em

storm hornet
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You can either live your life being afraid of getting hacked and nothing happens

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Or do not be afraid and nothing happens too

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but yea

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who knows

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That is why you have personal laptop and laptop for work

frank pasture
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Well thats my setup done for a while, new desk, changed keyboard n mouse 😂

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my right hand was hurting from the keyboard n mouse, so hoping this helps

boreal escarp
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Who would believe that a flat keyboard sucks

frank pasture
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I loved it for a while, but it + the trackpad was hurting my wrist massively, using gestures to scroll etc annoyed me

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Gone for a mouse + mechanical keyboard now

cyan bluff
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Crop the inventory part out and make the rest bigger

wary willow
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I like the background.

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but what Aeon said is good. just remove the player inventory and leave only the player inventory

boreal escarp
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Yup, too much wasted space

mellow wedge
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@swift cloud used to mainly host modded skyblock servers

swift cloud
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mods? or mods and plugins

mellow wedge
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both

swift cloud
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crucible?

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or mc pro

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or whatever it was called

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cauldron?

mellow wedge
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Project ozone 2, sky factory 2, sky factory

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cauldron was one

swift cloud
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sponge?

mellow wedge
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thermos was one

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sponge shit

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😂

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not shit, but it's not spigot plugins

swift cloud
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😂

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only used cauldron

mellow wedge
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when it came out, sponge was bad, but because of the limited plugins

swift cloud
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rn im making a server, using bloom

mellow wedge
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now it's prob really good

swift cloud
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its like a semi vanilla with plugins

mellow wedge
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icic

swift cloud
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its in pre alpha, and now im sorting out ranks

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then permissions

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and stuff

mellow wedge
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nice nice

swift cloud
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got any tips for a starter like me?

mellow wedge
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don't listen to me 😉

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that's my tip

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😂

swift cloud
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for real?

mellow wedge
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ya, idk how to make a good server

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modpacks did 99% of the work

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most people just want a server to play the modpack on

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I provided that

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lol

swift cloud
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i made a server like that before

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cc3

mellow wedge
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cc?

swift cloud
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crazy kraft

mellow wedge
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ohhh

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ya that's wild

swift cloud
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or Krazy Kraftr

mellow wedge
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never did one of those

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felt like my server would explode maybe

swift cloud
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idk how its spelt lol

mellow wedge
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i think it's cc

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idk

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wacky

swift cloud
mellow wedge
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sick modpack tho

swift cloud
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that was an explosion server

mellow wedge
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i think infinity evolved skyblock is still my favorite modpack

swift cloud
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but sadly it's 1.8.9

mellow wedge
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i still haven't finished the modpackyet lol

swift cloud
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one of my friends is making one, to remake orespawn

swift cloud
mellow wedge
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i think my world actually got wiped that I was playing on

swift cloud
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mc creator?

mellow wedge
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curseforge

swift cloud
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or coding

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like how do you make it

mellow wedge
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heh?

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to play

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ies is my favorite modpack to play

swift cloud
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nooo to create the mod lol

mellow wedge
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haven't finished it yet

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ies is an insanely long and difficult modpack

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but so fun

swift cloud
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ohhh, to finish you mean to play it all 💀

mellow wedge
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yes

swift cloud
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my bad lol

mellow wedge
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all g

swift cloud
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there is a plugin in my server that is like a modpack

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you can do automation

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and have like different ore dusts

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like

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copper dust, iron dust, lead dust

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and you can smelt those into ingots too

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and make some op stuff

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like nether star gens

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and wither automation

mellow wedge
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love that

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i made plugins like that back in the day

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ore generators, ore crushers

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good stuff

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nowadays with resource packs that could go brazy

swift cloud
#

you should check out my server, lol

swift cloud
arctic olive
#

I have low confidence on making a server. Currently, it's a SkyBlock server but keeping thinking about Survival.

#

These years, there's so many Survival server currently running. Maybe a SkyBlock better? because less servers has SkyBlock.

full atlas
#

All gamemodes are basically saturated.

arctic olive
full atlas
#

Exactly whats written... There are hundreds of thousands of servers all with the same few gamemodes. (Factions, survival, skyblock, prison) A new one was only recently started (IDK how recent it could be years now xD) called lifsteal

arctic olive
#

Imagine making a server project for months but no players wanna join.

boreal escarp
#

No need to imagine, it happens

full atlas
#

👋

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xD

swift cloud
#

no general mods channel?

wary willow
#

no

zenith mauve
arctic olive
#

The mars look like old game version

tacit nova
#

@worn compass I don't like the dynamic of the thing:
"Journey" and "Planet Mars" shadows go from top to bottom coming at the reader
"TO" is normal
and the text below is italic

#

too much movement imo

arctic olive
#

The experts has spoken

tacit nova
#

Also the "TO" is a little squished, but thats probably preference

stark rapids
#

Average canva user

#

thats all i would say

tacit nova
#

lmao straight up insulting

arctic olive
#

Maybe yes maybe no?

#

For me average photoshop user

naive agate
#

to many fonts were used in my opinion

arctic olive
#

Somehow I will send a fun trailer in #showcase soon. Might be funny af

tacit nova
stark rapids
#

Yo the ending of the trailer has dvd icon

arctic olive
#

"Fun"

naive agate
#

DVD

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😮

boreal escarp
#

is the quality very low only for me?

stark rapids
#

Next video end with the dvd logo loop

arctic olive
#

Epic

stark rapids
#

But it touches the corner

arctic olive
#

@stark rapids How about now?

#

Kinda funny for me

chilly brook
#

i dont really know nothing about your server, but the trailer looks kind of troll

pseudo sigil
#

@arctic olive Jesus christ my ears

unreal venture
#

what trailer where

pseudo sigil
unreal venture
#

i kinda like it tbh

#

but there is nothing creepy

#

so its meh

fallow crow
#

i dont see the trailer

unreal venture
#

it got removed 💀

arctic olive
fallow crow
#

why

hallow fable
#

@worn compass

Too many fonts and the spacing of "journey to planet wars" is off"

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Other than that i think its good

blazing oar
#

which would fit more?

tacit nova
#

for?

blazing oar
#

autocompletion for Hangar browsing bot

#

(fan made)

sullen sorrel
#

I'd say the third one

tacit nova
#

I'd say the last one

sullen sorrel
#

:))

#

lol

tacit nova
#

lul

magic summit
#

@worn compass Maybe add some highlights to the planet to make it look like there being explosions under the atmosphere... Would add to the "war" part a bit

blazing oar
#

ty

#

Also, any thoughts on this offer:
350$ per month, fixed, for 3 plugins per month (difficulty varies)

#

got offered this an I am a bit skeptical

idle galleon
#

depends on the plugin complexity. I would almost never do a flat rate though. I would always ask for pay based off projects individually so you dont get caught if it takes a ton of time.

#

I would also aim to get paid by hour

sullen sorrel
#

if it's like 3 whole minigames, then some more, but if it's really simple, then 350 would be overpricing, wouldn't it? And if it's like medium sized - medium-large sized plugins, then I'd be happy with it 🤷

idle galleon
#

Sometimes the flat rates are good, other times they can really bite you in the back.

blazing oar
#

Well, according to the person, it would only be plugins for events mostly, and difficulty level of a bounties plugin.

#

It can be bad, but at the end, if they are really simple, 350$ at the end of the month are confirmed lol

#

so yeah

#

idk, what do you guys think?

woven prairie
#

Agree with a scope

3 plugins for $350, but, if the requirements exceed the threshold, a single $/plugin or $/hr on top

sullen sorrel
#

wait by $350/month do you mean like $700 if it takes 2 months?

#

👀

#

or do you mean $350 budget with a one-month deadline?

blazing oar
#

no, I mean it's a constant contract, 350 per month, I do 1-3 plugins per month, 3 plugins being the threshold

sullen sorrel
#

oh ok

sturdy bobcat
#

personally i do $350 per plugin

#

you wanted a join message plugin? $400

blazing oar
#

💀

#

who are your customers

#

I need them

sturdy bobcat
#

jeff bezos, he is very into minecraft

blazing oar
#

oh pog

sturdy bobcat
#

[i dont even make $350 every 6 months]

blazing oar
#

xD

sturdy bobcat
#

which is large part because i infact

#

just flat out ignore commissions from everyone

#

regardless of simplicity or pay

blazing oar
#

lol

#

your own mistake then

sturdy bobcat
#

always

#

i'm always so much better in environments where i work consistently for a single person than spreading work across multiple random people

#

however finding those environments is not easy, especially when i do not try to find them

blazing oar
#

well that's exactly what this offer would be

#

xD

#

I would be in a fixed environment

fallow crow
#

@lone otter, you should make the text a bit bigger

#

True but you want it to be easily read

#

When it’s smaller on builtbybit or polymart

arctic olive
#

@lone otter where the hell is the tiers menu?

lofty void
#

Oh boy, people still look at my showcases from 3 years ago? 😂

#

That one was more of a proof of concept than actually practical. It was also abusing a bug in deluxemenus that I imagine has since then been fixed.
If I remember correctly, I ran success commands on view requirements, and then refreshed it as well after that. So I could get it to fire off on every tick if I wanted to

#

It wasn't good, it bugged it out a ton if you did that. So it would eat all your clicks and stuff

worn compass
chilly brook
#

Sure you did

wary willow
#

@lone otter that's not what we meant. we meant just the bottom part of the inventory where the actual player inventory is

#

omg. @lofty void. I am a big fan.

lofty void
wary willow
#

with a lot of lag. lol

#

that menu was literally unusable for users

#

but it looked nice

lofty void
#

It was a real flex 🤣. And it was fun

#

But nothing else

#

Nice to see that few still don’t come close to the PlusOne I got for my battleship deluxemenu 😆.
Although it was so far from completed, disappointed I never did

vague walrus
#

Pfft it's not that impressive
(It's very impressive)

wary willow
#

yeah I know. have you seen the most disliked one tho?

lofty void
#

Some self promoting one? 🤣

vague walrus
#

UndieCraft?

lofty void
wary willow
#

you haven't heard about undiecraft?

#

damn

lofty void
#

Ew 🤣

long summit
#

That's almost as many dislikes as the post with the most likes lmao

lofty void
#

That is so wrong on so many levels. Especially since it’s a kid’s game

wary willow
vague walrus
#

Kids should wear underwear wym

lofty void
#

Facts

wary willow
#

95*

long summit
#

Oh shit it went over 90, last time I saw it had like 80

stark rapids
#

holy pig who pinged me thrice

#

bad bad

tacit nova
wary willow
stark rapids
#

my art

#

atleast i have 11 plus

tacit nova
#

Yeah

#

Resources packs are some serious fuckery

trim raft
#

Resource packs MODS

tacit nova
#

just made this abomination yesterday

young mortar
#

do re mi?

#

lol

#

still have all those memorized from those years of choir

wary willow
#

@frank pasture, this dropdown should probably contain "all time" as well?

#

Also, it is very confusing how that dropdown switches functionality when you move to the Campaigns tabs. A better way to handle campaigns would be to have checkboxes and be able to mix and match not be limited to just 1 campaign.

young mortar
#

@frank pasture why does this have a negative margin?

#

oh shit lol

#

me and blitz both going in on the design

wary willow
#

nah

#

more functionality on my side

frank pasture
#

Nice feedback folks, will add it to my list

young mortar
#

oh while we're at it, the little download icon at the top should at least have a hover that says like "Download latest plugin version" or something, cause I was very confused on what it was and I didn't want to click on it cause I thought it might just download like, a csv of the stats or something lol

frank pasture
#

Ah yeah, should it say "Download" then instead of just an icon?

young mortar
#

"Download latest plugin" or something

#

cause it's not the stats, as you would think it would be on an analytics dashboard

wary willow
wary willow
young mortar
#

yea ^

frank pasture
#

Will add this

#

I can see why its confusing

young mortar
#

damn maybe I should be a QA tester

frank pasture
#

Hahaha

young mortar
#

i love nitpicking designs

wary willow
frank pasture
#

I'm all ears to feedback if theres other things 😄

#

User experience is >>

wary willow
#

Umm. When I select a part of the "Online Players" graph, there's no way to zoom out anymore. I have to refresh the page.

#

Am I doing something wrong?

young mortar
#

on the Players subpage, I feel like it would make sense to be able to sort by inverted Sessions as well as just normal Sessions (as you might want to target people who have low session numbers for advertising or something)

frank pasture
#

Ahh yeah, I like that

frank pasture
sullen sorrel
#

@frank pasture mobile has a bug:

#

😛

young mortar
#

oh and the dateFilter url query param is fixed - changing the little selector in the top right doesn't actually do anythign on the Players subpage

pseudo sigil
#

Everyone fuckin destroying this man's work right now.

frank pasture
#

Wow, what browser are you on

long summit
#

Free bugtesting strategy

frank pasture
sullen sorrel
wary willow
frank pasture
#

It's good to hear feedback from others

#

I'm always eager to fix stuff 😂

wary willow
#

You can tell me and star have nothing better to do tho. We were instantly on that shit 🤣

frank pasture
#

you both were so quick, I only just posted it!! 😂

wary willow
#

Is there no way to change passwords?

#

From the Profile page I mean

sullen sorrel
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

frank pasture
wary willow
#

👍

frank pasture
#

Noted stuff so far, will peep the firefox issue

frank pasture
#

Yeah I see, maybe I'd just add an icon beside it or something

#

Like date icon vs money or something

sullen sorrel
frank pasture
#

How small is your screen

sullen sorrel
#

Uhh

young mortar
#

yeah it's actually kind of an interesting context shift, cause like Dashbaord Events and Players are all focused on an overall date filter, whereas Campaigns is apparently not? it's just like an overview of how the campaigns are going

frank pasture
#

Yeah, I added it as a tab as I felt like it would fit in with the flow, but seems like it may look out

#

I do plan to redo the dashboard design (to be clearer) with sidebar design, so happy to hear how you'd envision it

young mortar
#

maybe even just a simple vertical line separating them would do wonders for making the context shift apparent

#

oh yeah or a vertical sidebar with category labels, bam

frank pasture
#

Yeah I like that, I have been thinking the sidebar approach could look less busy too

#

Like similar to tebex style

sullen sorrel
young mortar
#

is that in... inches?

wary willow
wary willow
sullen sorrel
#

Mhm

wary willow
#

pixels

sullen sorrel
wary willow
#

please

sullen sorrel
#

Pixels is not what the browser shows

#

Bc it would be too small then

wary willow
# frank pasture You mean like, a comparison?

So in your campaign tab, instead of being able to just select 1 campaign, you should be able to aggregate data from multiple campaigns and then maybe even add built in comparison I guess

sullen sorrel
#

Could prob fond on google

young mortar
#

all right chazza, it's time to give up a custom analyse frontend and just offer hosted Grafana with prebuilt dashboards lmao

wary willow
#

what's wrong with Grafana?

young mortar
#

hey I really like Grafana for all my analytics needs!

#

UnifiedMetrics & InfluxDB & Grafana is my open-source Analyse alternative 😌

frank pasture
#

It has its gains, I see that, just I believe in nicer user experience especially for the less tech savvy

frank pasture
#

xo

young mortar
#

lmao

#

the value proposition of it being part of Tebex is actually really smart

wary willow
#

analayse ain't OS (from what I know). If I want to add a new comparison like what I suggested, I have to wait for you to add it.

young mortar
#

cause I would never pay for analyse on my own as someone who knows anything about sysadmin stuff

young mortar
#

but if you're already doing tebex for your payments, it's an easy thing to setup

frank pasture
#

Analyse is technically free for everyone rn

young mortar
#

luckily (or sadly depending on how you look at it), my stuff uses Stripe for our payments

#

so no Tebex vendor lockin 😌

wary willow
#

aren't stripe fees better?

young mortar
#

yea

#

and we do a lot more than just sell Minecraft stuff with it

#

plus custom frontend, etc. etc.

frank pasture
#

I see some guys using shopify too

#

Interesting mix

wary willow
#

Oh. Does tebex limit you to minecraft? I thought they offer like a full payment suite just like stripe

frank pasture
#

They don't

#

They have a standalone

young mortar
#

yea we looked at shopify, just had higher fees + a subscription for really not much more so meh

frank pasture
#

What BuiltByBit are using is Tebex Checkout

#

Which is the payment side of tebex

magic summit
frank pasture
#

Right now everyone can use it though

pseudo sigil
#

I'm just eating my first meal.

#

Total not at 7pm but whatever

frank pasture
#

I'm eating once delivery man gets here 😂

tacit nova
#

@frank pasture whats that mockup site?

#

Also, I don't see how you can make graphs for only / java bedrock to see how they compare

#

and how long is that retention? 1d,7d,1m?

frank pasture
tacit nova
#

Yeah I mean the site where you put the screenshot in

frank pasture
#

I use CleanshotX, a mac app

tacit nova
#

ah

#

thx

frank pasture
frank pasture
tacit nova
#

KEKW_laugh sorry

#

i didnt see the thing above

tacit nova
#

maybe side by side

frank pasture
naive agate
#

they are early af

vague walrus
#

Make sure you use it before it expires 😱

naive agate
#

haha depends on what movies are out

light scaffold
#

peak is releasing tomorrow so

blazing oar
#

Oppenheimer 👀

light scaffold
#

not exactly what i meant but

blazing oar
#

I gave a movie idea

#

xD

boreal escarp
naive agate
boreal escarp
leaden cove
#

@idle galleon i need ur website

idle galleon
#

Explain?

leaden cove
idle galleon
#

Yeah, wdym you need it?

tacit nova
#

Wait you're using tunnels?

idle galleon
#

For right now

#

I want to host it on my machine for the time being, and I only knew how to use tunnels

#

I didn't want to port forward anything

tacit nova
#

oh, no server?

sullen sorrel
#

Btw does anyone have 32gb+ ram
I'm thinking of possibly upgrading from 16gb to 32gb ddr4 but I'm not sure how beneficial it'll be
My memory usage maxes out a lot but apps still run without crashing and stuff so idk if it's worth it?
Anyone with 32gb+, how often does the memory usage go beyond 16gb? 🤔

tacit nova
#

very often

#

especially using Windows (switched to Linux a few months back, best decision ever (with some drawbacks so dual boot))

#

But when you run a proxy 1-2mc servers 1-2mc instances 1-2 intellijs, discord, firefox you come close to the limit

young mortar
#

yeah ^

#

with all my testing setup for minecraft/website dev, it eaily goes above 20GB

tacit nova
#

I find 64GB useless, but if you use your computer regularily, its toally worth it

#

especially since DDR4 is so cheap rn

sullen sorrel
young mortar
#

idk like 2GB or something

#

but even then with 2 of them, a proxy, like three IJs, a PyCharm, a few hundred Chrome tabs, Discord, two Minecraft instances, etc.

#

real easy to use a ton

sullen sorrel
#

few hundred Chrome tabs
👀

#

Wow

#

Ig that's what u can do when u have a lot of memory 🙃

#

Alr ty both for ur responses!

tacit nova
#

best investment

sullen sorrel
#

Oh also one more question - has anyone sold old parts (since it looks like mixing ram can be risky)?

tacit nova
#

yes me

#

xD

sullen sorrel
#

Where?

#

🙃

tacit nova
#

welp im in Germany so Kleinanzeigen, that's basically Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace

sullen sorrel
#

Oh

tacit nova
#

but that really depends on your region

sullen sorrel
#

Alr

#

Ty 👍

young mortar
#

i just save or gift most of my old parts lol

#

never know when you're gonna need an old gpu or something

tacit nova
#

Yeah well I'm not rich

sullen sorrel
#

Ya with my old pc I just kept the old memory since it was only 4gb (or 8? I don't remember) anyways

young mortar
#

i mean i have a pc i built in like 2016 lol

tacit nova
#

And I want to buy a resin printer so

young mortar
#

an old dusty 1070 isn't gonna go for much

tacit nova
#

50 bucks still

#

especially in a whole computer package

young mortar
#

50 bucks or, i have an insurance policy if my new gpu ever dies or anything and i can't boot my computer without it

#

i ain't selling the whole computer package lol

#

i upgrade part by part

frank pasture
tacit nova
#

i upgrade part by part too:
first: mobo, cpu, fans, drive, keyboard, screen, mouse, table
second: grephics

sullen sorrel
#

I've only ever upgraded ram before
Rest is prebuilt

tacit nova
#

basically everything is left from my old pc, except the case cause i didnt want to spend like 100 bucks for a new case

sullen sorrel
#

Wow custom build?

#

Isn't that difficult tho

young mortar
sullen sorrel
#

Wait star do u use Mac or pc

arctic olive
#

I watched this one video. You run msconfig in windows. Then makes your pc core into max. Does it really make the pc fast?

light scaffold
#

i love spending 4000 on a laptop

young mortar
#

PC for my desktop, macbook for my laptop

sullen sorrel
#

Ah

#

Interesting

frank pasture
#

I went with m1 max, 64gb ram and 2tb ssd 14"

arctic olive
#

Ew Mac

young mortar
#

oh man you can never have too much storage space

light scaffold
#

L

tacit nova
frank pasture
#

i only use 200gb LOL

young mortar
#

i upgraded to a 2TB Samsung 970 Evo Pro a bit ago

#

very nice

arctic olive
#

Legion laptop are better

young mortar
#

plus I have a combined like 16TB of other SSD/HDD for games

tacit nova
#

lmao i have multiple 2tb nvme drives ahahha

sullen sorrel
tacit nova
boreal escarp
#

16TB 💀

tacit nova
young mortar
# boreal escarp 16TB 💀

yeah bro, i want to have every game i ever might want to play installed so i can play it at a moments notice

tacit nova
#

i bought my 3060 used with warranty pretty cheap so that was fine

frank pasture
#

I only keep active projects, otherwise it goes back to github

sullen sorrel
#

Oh also

#

Do u guys back up

frank pasture
#

to github only

young mortar
#

i really should lol

boreal escarp
tacit nova
#

ive been wanting to buy an m1/m2 macbook for so long because literally any other laptop sucks compared to it

young mortar
#

i have a backup for actually like pretty much everything i would want to backup tbh

young mortar
frank pasture
sullen sorrel
#

Zipping takes so long if u want to back up like 100gb tho

tacit nova
young mortar
#

m1 macbook air is fucking awesome

sullen sorrel
tacit nova
young mortar
#

rsync gang

young mortar
tacit nova
#

ikr pain my current laptop (the thing i use to travel) gets hot to the point where i cant touch the keys anymore when gaming

#

although i probably wont be gaming on a mac

sullen sorrel
young mortar
#

even with a full like JetBrains IDE or two and chrome and everything i've never had a problem

light scaffold
young mortar
#

and the fanless means you can put it on a blanket or something and it won't suffocate it

tacit nova
#

how about 1-2mc instances and server?

light scaffold
#

have to manually turn fans up

young mortar
#

very useful for laying in bed or on your blanket

young mortar
light scaffold
#

?

#

bro spending $800 on a web browser

sullen sorrel
#

🥲

tacit nova
young mortar
#

i do all my schoolwork and actual job work on there

arctic olive
#

@frank pasture does your Analyse have income statistic? like connected to CraftingStore?

light scaffold
#

spekaing of storage

young mortar
#

yeah i wouldn't do game dev on a laptop

tacit nova
#

its connected to tebex

light scaffold
#

70 GIGABYTES for a few nix packages

#

ridiculous

tacit nova
young mortar
#

something something CoW

arctic olive
light scaffold
frank pasture
#

i now work for tebex

young mortar
#

is making mods/plugins not game dev to you guys?

light scaffold
#

not really lol

tacit nova
#

i can do it on my current laptop with an i7, it gets hot if I have it in high performance mode

light scaffold
#

it's not like you're working with an engine

arctic olive
young mortar
#

there are lots of parts of a game not directly linked to an engine

#

dialogue, art, etc.

light scaffold
#

okay you're missing the point

tacit nova
#

im a modeler

oh so youre a game dev?

young mortar
#

yeah i would say modeling is definitely part of game dev lol

light scaffold
#

if you're spending $800+ on a laptop i would expect to be able to make plugins without it exploding

#

ergo the pro is better

arctic olive
young mortar
#

sure i guess lol

#

i dunno a laptop just isn't a great choice to run a game server + two game clients on

#

of any genre of anything

light scaffold
#

sure

arctic olive
young mortar
#

or if you're doing proxy stuff, two game servers, a game server proxy, and two game clients lol

tacit nova
#

im a writer

oh so youre a game dev?
im a sysdev
oh so youre a game dev?
im a programmer
oh so youre a game dev?
im whatever the fuck insert here
oh so youre a game dev?

frank pasture
#

If you need any guidance, DMs open :)

light scaffold
#

ive actually been running the mc clients on my pc recently lmao, just to make things slightly less painful

young mortar
light scaffold
#

$1700 small indie laptop has trouble 🥲

young mortar
#

i don't get what's so hard about that

sullen sorrel
#

1700?!

frank pasture
sullen sorrel
#

I didn't know macs were so pricey

light scaffold
#

it's a pro

tacit nova
arctic olive
light scaffold
young mortar
#

got mine as part of my job from my uni bookstore, i think it was like $1100 or something for the m1 air

#

pretty sweet deal

sullen sorrel
#

U can get like a pc with the best specs for like 1700

#

Or smth

young mortar
#

not in this economy

light scaffold
#

yeah i doubt that's true lol

young mortar
#

you can get a 4070 for that alone lol

sullen sorrel
#

Wait what

light scaffold
#

but even if it was, pcs and laptops arent really comparable

young mortar
#

and it'll have a cucked memory bus width 😔

sullen sorrel
#

I thought gpu prices dropped

#

:((

arctic olive
#

You guys as programmer. Do you ever made a game? Like in Unity or such programs?

light scaffold
#

an equivalent laptop would be about the same

tacit nova
#

my current laptop config would cost double that 2,699€ as a macbook pro

sullen sorrel
#

And os

#

I got barely any experience tho so

arctic olive
young mortar
#

well yeah you don't get a macbook for the raw power

#

you get it for the M1/M2 and the amazing battery life and user experience

tacit nova
#

i mean ram and storage

light scaffold
#

star i dont think you're doing a great job of advertising here

tacit nova
#

yeah

young mortar
#

a macbook is not the best laptop for game dev lol

#

any laptop is not the best for game dev

sullen sorrel
#

Would it be better to get a Mac or regular laptop if I don't use apple devices tho

young mortar
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it depends on what you want

tacit nova
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shut up starrrrr

frank pasture
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Macs are great, but I usually only recommend them if you're a developer

arctic olive
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Why you guys still use Macbook lmao?

tacit nova
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thats exactly what macs are awesome for

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good cpu performance

young mortar
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i've had an amazing experience with my macbook, the battery life is absolutely phenomenal and it has quite a nice UI, excellent at doing school coding assignments and stuff

light scaffold
young mortar
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i couldn't ask for anything better

tacit nova
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only works with enough ram in the end

arctic olive
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Ryzen and Intel cpu are better than Macbok are

light scaffold
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you miss out on a bit of convenience but it's totally usable

light scaffold
tacit nova
young mortar
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i have my actual full tower for harder stuff like full game dev and running a ton of minecraft instances

tacit nova
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also youre comparing like wheat to croissonts

light scaffold
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interesting analogy

sullen sorrel
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Lol

arctic olive
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i am not sure thats true

young mortar
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depends on the metrics lol

arctic olive
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People on youtube also test it out for a test.

young mortar
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battery life, absolutely not

light scaffold
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^

young mortar
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the ARM chips excel in efficiency

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x86 chips are still the kings of raw clock speed, but that's quickly changing

arctic olive
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Do you guys even know that Macbook use Samsung stuff in there?

light scaffold
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bro who cares

young mortar
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i do quite like samsung

light scaffold
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we're not elitists

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thats not an own at all

young mortar
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it's the opposite lol

arctic olive
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Macbook lover I could say. Well people has their own perspective which better then.

sullen sorrel
young mortar
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this guy is a master communicator lol

light scaffold
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you can like a product without breaking down in tears when you realise that companies outsource things

arctic olive
light scaffold
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lol

arctic olive
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Lol

frank pasture
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tacit nova
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yeah

light scaffold
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it doesnt matter lmao

young mortar
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samsung foundry p cool tbh

arctic olive
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Even iPhone was made in Korea factory.

light scaffold
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so what?

young mortar
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oh korea is a pretty cool place

light scaffold
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yeah whats wrong with that

arctic olive
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okay

young mortar
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lmao

light scaffold
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maybe it is