#doom-2016

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ornate basin
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Ultra violence
Combat shotgun with charge burst
Plasma rifle with heat blast
Assult rifle with micro missiles
No weapon upgrades
Grenades allowed
Nothing else

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Oh and no preator suit upgrades

steady lion
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Guys whats the best rune related to richer get richer

noble moat
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Equipment rune

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And GK gives armor

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Equipment rune with siphon grenades give you armor.

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Since you always want armor for rich get richer to stay in effect

sacred mantle
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RGR legit feels like cheating lmao

noble moat
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It is, I’m not a fan of it

sacred mantle
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Agreed

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Is there a consensus on what the rankings of best guns in 2016 is?

red flume
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gauss > a regular 9mm handgun > everything else

noble moat
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My list is
Gauss
Rpg
Chain
Combat
Plasma
har
Ssg

halcyon bear
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Heavy assult rifle with the heavy rounds is just my go to. It feels amazing

mint mesa
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love the gauss cannon

elder meadow
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BFG > Gauss > Chaingun > Rocket > SSG > Plasma > Shotgun > HAR > Pistol

fading oxide
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i like all guns equally :)

flint dune
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Even the pistol?

fading oxide
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yes.

ornate basin
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The pistol makes me want to kill my self and others

fading oxide
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luckily thats what its designed for :)

rigid grove
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Does the collectors edition come with a physical copy or digital copy

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Is it just me that I hate the charge burst but I love the explosive shots more than the charge burst mod for the combat shotgunoldcaco

halcyon bear
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Physical

rigid grove
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Ok I just got a keyboard for this game and mouse I was playing for several hours and a few of my keys are gone

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The physical copy of DOOM Eternal?

elder meadow
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skinny mancubus

halcyon bear
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@rigid grove yes

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Skinny mancubus lives forever .. he can not be stopped ... he can not be bargained with

modest zealot
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Oh yes he can

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loads SSG

ornate basin
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Cheese bob and gouragu wack off to it I’m sure

gritty shale
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i think im getting a little better at 2016, i havent died to the hell knights as much as before

noble moat
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Good. It’s all about practice

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The hardest part of 2016 is learning the flow

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Once you learn the flow. The game starts to get a little easier. And your skill improves

modest zealot
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Because in Eternal you got like 3 panic buttons

noble moat
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Crucible BFG chainsaw?

modest zealot
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Oh and Meathook

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And Dash

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And the Rocket and Ballista

noble moat
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And ice bomb

modest zealot
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And grenades

noble moat
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I’m starting to think this is more than 3

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I wonder

modest zealot
noble moat
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If the idea of the crucible came from a fully ammo upgraded chainsaw

modest zealot
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And Sticky Bombs

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And PB

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And Shield Chaingun...

noble moat
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You know how in 2016 they only ever used chainsaw for free cyber manc or Baron kill?

modest zealot
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no

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I comboed those fuckers to death

noble moat
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Well I mean most people

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Since chainsaw was useless with maxed ammo

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People would get a free huge demon kill

modest zealot
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Frankly the Chainsaw in 2016 in general is sus

steady lion
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guys Seek and Destroy vs Savagery

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which is more useful

noble moat
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Hmmm

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Savagery just makes the GK faster

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Technically. That’s bad. Means less time invincible

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Seek and destroy let’s you GK from further away. Let’s you Launch into Invincibility

modest zealot
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Well pair it with Blood-Fueled and then you don't NEED the invincibility

noble moat
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Savagery with blood fueled however is good

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XD

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savagery combined with blood fueled is great

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You want to always be in blood fueled speed, so fast savagery is great

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Plus savagery affects chainsaw

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So for someone like me who doesn’t upgrade ammo. I always use chainsaw

brazen dawn
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ngl that looks like the hell from doom 2016

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minus the humans

halcyon bear
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Those old art pieces of hell always have that creepy but intense look

brazen dawn
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yeepers

ornate grove
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Anyone still play DOOM 2016 multiplayer on the switch?

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I'm looking for people to play DOOM 2016 multiplayer

wheat sandal
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DOOM 2016? I need a friend

abstract isle
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For mp?

elder meadow
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Damn doom on ultra nightmare is so good

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Hurt me plenty was easy after learning how to play on I'm too young to die

abstract isle
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I skipped Itytd

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hmp is easy enough if you know the basics of fps

rigid grove
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I wish i had doom eternal

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I don't like the runes in doom 2016

soft crest
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why not?

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DE runes tend to be way over the top tbh. There are only like 4 that arent that much powerful

halcyon bear
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Ruin challenges and getting the ruins was a really great add on in my opinion. Like mini games that made you more powerful in the main game. What's not to like

ornate basin
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The runes in 2016 were bullshit

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What were they thinking making them this strong

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They’re like
Oh hi you want to have infinite ammo on your already game breaking ssg or gauss here you go just keep you armor up Did I mention this mastery is so easy to get it’s ridiculous

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Oh hi there want a seemly infinity supply of bfg shots just take this rune

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Oh hi there want to stagger demons so quickly it’s almost impossible to die here you go

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And rune challenges were awful
There you are having fun
Killing demons
Getting secrets
Then you have stop and shoot 30 barrels with a pistol

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The challenges aren’t hard
They just waste you time

halcyon bear
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That's just your opinion

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I have my own

red flume
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way to cherry pick one of the 2 trials that don't involve killing things

ornate basin
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Only two that don’t have killing?

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You also have to jump back and forth getting d20s for about 10 seconds

red flume
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Pretty sure in air mobility and the barrel one are the only 2 "pacifist" trials.

ornate basin
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Kill 15 imps with the shotgun
That only takes like a minute
Plus 2 long load screens because this game has awful loading
Again just wasting your time

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Here’s a big one
Kill 30 zombies with the ssg
That is fucking piss easy
You know what you get
The most broken rune
The ammo boost with the infinite bfg ammo

halcyon bear
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I have to admit that ruin is busted. I like the challenges as a good break between the action though.

red flume
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My load times are maybe 2-3 seconds longer than Eternal.
I'm not super peeved that they got rid of the trials but I did enjoy them.

ornate basin
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And you get that rune so early in the game it’s impossible to not have the mastery when you have the bfg unless you weren’t using it

noble moat
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I didn’t like the rune trials for how random half of them were

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Were you enjoying the game?
Now shoot 30 barrels with a pistol

ornate basin
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Stagger 3 hell knights with the heavy assault rifle and glory kill them from above
You have a not upgraded micro missile but this still takes way longer then it has then it has any right to be
And you can miss the glory kill because they death from above hit detection is garbage

halcyon bear
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Hmmm had that doom 2 feel huh? Some of them I really liked. I'm also a completionist so I enjoyed the feeling of completing all of them

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I need to redo it for ps4 soon

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We ll see how I feel

noble moat
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A few were interesting.

Death from above 3 hellknight with an unupgraded Har Was bad

ornate basin
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Yay argent tower

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The worst level in the game

noble moat
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That level gives me anxiety

ornate basin
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I love platforming levels where falling is death

noble moat
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Nothing sucks more in doom 2016,
Not dying from lack of skill
But death from falling =/

halcyon bear
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Games with teleporting when you fall always felt weird to me

noble moat
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True, but in 2016 it feels so off because it’s just 1 level

ornate basin
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My list of complaints from 2016
Rune trials waste time and the runes are game breaking
The weapons are game breaking
The game is too easy
The most dangerous enemy is the imp
Falling is death
Argent tower and facility levels
Shield guys are annoying
Red and more red

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And most importantly of all

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The crouch button what we do without

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Melee and glory kill hit detection

halcyon bear
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I didnt think it was to easy on nightmare. That felt just right. I'll have to replay ruins but some of them were a good time. Maybe some ruins are broken but the concept of upgrading is neat... maybe another type of mini game would have been better.

noble moat
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Melee GK hit detection?
I never noticed any issue with those

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Shield guys true are annoying. Only easy once you get gauss

halcyon bear
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Shield guys are eternally annoying in every game haha

noble moat
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Game too easy. Only imps do damage is exactly how I feel about the game. Imps are the most dangerous enemy for sure

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Weapons game breaking I kinda don’t agree with, besides gauss siege mode. And BFG.
Everything else is supposed to feel powerful as part of the power fantasy

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Some runes truly do break the game.. but at least with this you don’t have to use them

halcyon bear
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Yee collecting things is a good time. But you're not forced to use them. Sniping imps hahaha forgot about that

noble moat
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I never had any issue with the color of 2016. Until I saw the color In eternal

halcyon bear
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Well it is mars

noble moat
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Yeah. But eternal is just so colorful is beautiful

ornate basin
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It’s not just the fact that’s red

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It the fact how each level is one color

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The first level is red

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Argent tower is shit grey

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Lazarus is blue

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Etc

halcyon bear
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Imagine a bio plant life division. Just having a random area thats like a forest or jungle where the researched plant life. I thought there would actually be an area like that.

ornate basin
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There’s like 2 big fights in argent tower

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A wire just killed me

elder meadow
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"Mastery challange stick 4 different demons in five seconds"
Does that mean I have to stick 4 different species of demons in 5 sec or just 4 demons?

ornate basin
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4 demons

elder meadow
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Kk

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Shit I need to pay more attention to my health on ultra-violence

elder meadow
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I feel like assault rifle is more powerful on ultra-violence

rigid grove
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I still haven't beaten the rich get richer rune doomguy_god_hd doomguy_pingery doomguy_wicked

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I just hate the remote detonation mod on the rocket launcherdoomguy_ping doomguy_pingery

noble moat
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Just don’t use the mod. Just hit them directly with the rockets

sacred mantle
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does the final mission have a doom classic secret thing?

noble moat
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Yes

sacred mantle
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thanks

elder meadow
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Classics maps are in every mission.

sacred mantle
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i finally found it lol

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for some reason i had a lot more trouble finding that one than i did most others

brazen dawn
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im testing my snapmap map and i placed a BFG down and picked it up then switched to my shot gun and idk how to get it back. I pressed T and that just brings up the chat

flint dune
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Open the weapon wheel and then press the equipment/ Weapon mod button (It’s one of those two). That should switch your weapon slot to the BFG.

brazen dawn
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thx

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the weapon wheel doesnt open

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you can only hold 2 weapons

elder meadow
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I was disappointed when I've seen how snapmap looks like. You can't glory kill and hold only 2 weapons.

vagrant fox
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whats the fastest way to cheesing the collect 2500 points of armor (armor offensive) rune challenge?

elder meadow
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@vagrant fox There are several armor pickups in the Necropolis starting area. You can grab it there then restart the level. Alternatively there is also a Heavy Armor at the beginning of Kandigir Sanctum, tho that one will require a bit more walking.

steady lion
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I just realized that you cant do a pacifist run on doom 2016 due to

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Demonic presence and lockdown

vagrant fox
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@elder meadow Ty sir. Noted.

elder meadow
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👍

abstract isle
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A good tip to get the RGR mastery is to use the micromissiles to damage yourself

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you can do that to quickly cheese the mastery

elder meadow
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doom 2016

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was

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good

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And in my opinion better than Doom eternal

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It just had a lot more atmosphere better characters better multiplayer

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And better Doom Slayer armor

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Being able to see the Doom Slayers face is terrible

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Oh God here comes

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I'm about to be destroyed by Doom Eternal fanboy

soft crest
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2016 had much more stuff, DE campaig was better imo, but once you finsih 2016, its only the beginning of the all other suff there is. Eternal- you finish campaign, you done with the game. Bm is fun, but gets boring after a while

elder meadow
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Oh my God

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Did you just agree with me

soft crest
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kinda?

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I dont have problem with seeing the face tho

elder meadow
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Snapmap was awesome

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The campaign was awesome

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And to be honest they kind of ruined Samuel Hayden Vega

soft crest
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mp was alright

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how did they ruin ma boy sam?

elder meadow
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In Doom eternal

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Was Samuel Hayden used to be the cool elusive figure you only met him once you try to shoot him and he brushes it off like it's nothing

soft crest
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I like he is seraphim now, and vega also. Really loved the lore and story of eternal

elder meadow
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But in Doom eternal he's a broken record pretty much useless character only used to provide background which could have just been crammed into the codexes

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And how did he even know that the final priest was hiding in Sentinel Prime that made absolutely no sense how would he know

soft crest
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I really loved how we rescue him, completelly against you on that one. Youre the one real badass, savior of humanity, the last hope, their doom... and everyone knows that

elder meadow
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Yeah I don't think humanity is too grateful for you kidnapping Samuel Hayden and taking The Crucible they're only reliable energy source

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And doom Eternal armor is not as good

soft crest
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why would he not know that? Hayden is more than he seems to be. I guess he tracked the third pries, it were vega that lost signal or something

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ehm, you mean saving Samuel

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and taking the gift he returned to him

elder meadow
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Kidnapping

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And Olivia Pierce was an awesome character and villain

soft crest
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he wouldnt have stood a chance, uac would save samuel in time

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Olivia was awful, I like how the mastermind is her twisted demonic version, but Khan is simply superior in every way

elder meadow
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Olivia Pierce you keep missing her just by that much and it fuels you to keep going with the hell priests it's practically impossible not to kill them

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Olivia was awful and that's the point

soft crest
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so its the point that she is a boring villain?

elder meadow
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She's an awesome villain

soft crest
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Like I didnt have that much problem with her, but she isnt that great of a villain. Your typical doom villain basically. Demon corrupt person into a vision of better world. Nice, havent seen that before. Awful may be too much, but she wasnt nearly as well written or interesting as the Khan Maykr

elder meadow
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Khan was practically two-dimensional it was like she was powerless to stop the Doom Slayer she never did anything and she died like a wet fart sure she turns off your power but that's just about it

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" Doom Slayer if you don't kill the final priest I'll give you back your bunny" she makes no attempt to stop you

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Oh and the bosses don't even get me started on the bosses The Marauder was perfectly fair and balanced the Doom Hunters are like great to fight but then they just start dotting them around an arena but they don't matter I mean come on they're forgettable

soft crest
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are you joking? Khan had to feed her world, she had a real proper reason to invade, she knew she was powerless to stop the Slayer, she saw the futures after all. She needed to stop Samuel, their betrayer, so she can regain the Father, the original source of their energy, before it were the argent. She has so much shit around her, and the crazy thing is DG actually left her the Vega because it belonged to them. Khan still wanted to stop Hayden and regain Crucible, which she failed to do, but risked herself for.

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Marauder wasnt a real boss, Gladiator wasnt a bad boss at all. I really enjoyed the Khan. And if you find Icon of Sin forgettable, then tf is wrong with you

elder meadow
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Okay yeah that's a pretty good reason I support that her lawyer is interesting

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Oh I'll get to the three big bosses Khan maker Gladiator and icon of sin

soft crest
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look, there still arent good fps bosses out there, but thez are top of the line, if thez arent better than the ones in 2016, they are about that level. But I will say this I will name the 16 bosses any day, with eternals I had to search my mind a bit.

elder meadow
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Don't you remember seeing the. Cyberdemon being petrified and then feeling liberated after you destroyed it only to see it get back up again don't you remember killing the hell guard and then being petrified is two more rise up don't you remember seeing the spider Mastermind breach hell's charred crust

soft crest
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tbh the second phases were bullshit, yes. That were really missing. Agree on that

elder meadow
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Yeah I remember the Gladiator yeah I remember the khan maker yeah I remember the icon of sin

soft crest
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They either werent there (Khan), or werent that different

elder meadow
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Also the second phases weren't bulshit they were awesome

soft crest
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I meant eternal second phases, not 2016, these were incredible

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I didnt mean it that way

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I meant the eternal ones werent really good

elder meadow
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and Doom 2016 atmospheres just all better completely better 100% top notch

soft crest
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ehh, I dunno about that. Preffer Eternal on that

elder meadow
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Doom eternal looks like you spilled a bunch of nail polish in the dark and then turned on a flood light

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Too bright all the time even on the darkest setting

soft crest
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atmosphere doesnt mean just darkness

elder meadow
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I know

soft crest
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take urdak, the shit was mysterious and strange

elder meadow
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true

soft crest
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Or Arc, the urgent feel of it is undeniable

elder meadow
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I was more referring to the industrial mixed with flesh environments flesh and Metal environments if you will

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So like super Gore nest

soft crest
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I agree we saw little to no space, but saying Eternal has no atmosphere is bullshit (just look at the Sentinel Prime).

elder meadow
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In Doom 2016 you wake up not knowing what's going on not only you the player but also the Slayer knew nothing of what was going on

soft crest
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One phobos level, more 2016ish and Id be golden

elder meadow
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In Doom 2016 you're put it the villains doorstep two-player not knowing what's going on what's going on but the Doom Slayer knowing pretty much everything

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Doom 2016 explained what happened and how you gotten that sarcophagus Doom Eternal says nothing whatsoever

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Hopefully the DLCs will bring more light to that

soft crest
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In Doom 2016 you wake up not knowing what's going on not only you the player but also the Slayer knew nothing of what was going on
@elder meadow thats the thing, you already know shit in eternal so you go out there and kill some demons again. You knew shit and so did the slayer. In the old Dooms you were supposed to be the DG, I dont see why it cant be in the new ones. Which it is.

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Doom Eternal said quite a lot actually, just gotta read the logs and pay attention

elder meadow
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I've read every single one of the logs

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Where exactly did Samuel Hayden teleport the Doom Slayer why exactly is he here what has he been doing well Earth has been taken over

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All these questions and more answered in never

soft crest
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If you also paid attention you noticed unmaykr on the Fortress ship. Who else would develop that thing other than Hayden. Makes sense thats how Samur escaped, in that case, this is the most likely place Slayer got ported to. We know conflict were 10 years already or so (since 2151). The battle was already on for quite some time. After all we already know he had to kill the first guardian before start.

elder meadow
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Yeah I did notice the unmaker

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I understand. If what you're saying but okay

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You win Doom Eternal is better

soft crest
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Nah both games are good, I preffer to treat them equal

elder meadow
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Slayer being ported to Fortress of Doom and Unmaykr being made by Samuel are still pure speculations.

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Okay well cool

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Based on only the fact that it could be true.

soft crest
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I will se the updates have been pretty shit tho. Dont just mean the bug stuff, dont like them messing with campaign

elder meadow
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I noticed that i can no longer fire a rocket after Lock Burst.

soft crest
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@elder meadow come on, who else has the knowledge of Maykr tech, escaped from a sentinel world and had a motivation to go against the Maykrs

elder meadow
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It could have literary been built by Maykr Angels back when they were still friends with the sentinels ye know.

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Which honestly sounds like a more reasonably possibility to me.

soft crest
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so maykr angels would built a thing to unmayk them

elder meadow
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As if humans do not use their own tech to create weapons to kill our own kind megalel

steady lion
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Nuclear weapons be like:

elder meadow
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Besides, Maykr = Maker. Unmaykr = Unmaker.
So that weapon "unmaking" stuff sounds about right if you ask me.

soft crest
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... maykrs are one united tho, cant go against the Kahn. Not even Samur could have resisted a direct order, he had to modify himself or something

elder meadow
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Icon of Sin be like: hippity hoppity your drones are now my property.

steady lion
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tfw when thats eternl territory

soft crest
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and then there arent any on Final Sin... tacodemon

elder meadow
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The feeling when there are more demons in Heaven than actual angels megalel

soft crest
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Besides, Maykr = Maker. Unmaykr = Unmaker.
So that weapon "unmaking" stuff sounds about right if you ask me.
@elder meadow Look, all Im saying is that given our current knowldge this is the best bet we have. Samuel can built Maykr tech stuff, he had to escape somehow from Taras Nabaad, and he had the motivation to create such weapon. For the Beast perhaps maybe.

elder meadow
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Meh, not giving any clue as to where Samuel sent the Slayer is honestly a pathetic move from id...

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Actually no wait

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We can make estimates.

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He actually could only send him somewhere within Mars megalel

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@soft crest

steady lion
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My guess is that thats how he landed up in the Fortress

elder meadow
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Doom 2016 with RTX Be Like

cinder shadow
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Random question guys. Playing Doom 2016, got to lvl 6 and picked up a field drone that would only let me select between the 2 shotgun mods (which I already had both) for some reason, so basically it utilized the drone and didn't give me a mod. If I want to get the IDKFA trophy do I have to get all the masteries on the same playthrough or when I'm done can I just start up a new game and get the 1 mod/mastery done that I didn't get?

halcyon bear
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@cinder shadow you can get IDKFA with different playthroughs. You dont have to do it all in one run

cinder shadow
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Awesome, I appreciate it

halcyon bear
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No worries

red flume
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You can do it all on one file but if the mod bot got used without giving you anything idk if that would reset with mission select.

cinder shadow
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It didn't, I ran the level again and checked 😦

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I meant like if I do the 11 masteries on my one save file, then start a new game to finish up the last one I wasn't able to get

halcyon bear
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Yeah you'll get the achievement

soft crest
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He actually could only send him somewhere within Mars megalel
@elder meadow and what leads you to believe that Aryzon? Dont get your thought process here

ornate basin
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I can’t take this anymore

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I’m not a good enough liar to convince myself I am having fun with this game

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Back to eternal I guess

crimson prairie
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i personally like 2016 more than eternal

errant bloom
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Doom 2016 is great.

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Not as good as Eternals gameplay but i cant Imagine not having fun with this game. Its easy... but i guess thats the point of this game.

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A powerfantasy given to you

gaunt willow
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what do i even do with the 20 extra weapon points

noble moat
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Enjoy the number

gaunt willow
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at least its a nice round number i guess

noble moat
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That’s pretty much it, they made it so you don’t have to 100% Everything to get max points

gaunt willow
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about that, is there a way to check if your game slot is 100%?

noble moat
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Hmmm.
A round about way

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Level select I believe will show The points / challenges.
Check number of classic maps you’ve unlocked.
Ingame check codex number
See if you have full toys

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In game again to see if all weapons and mods are mastered

gaunt willow
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same with runes too right

noble moat
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Yep

gaunt willow
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alright thanks

velvet spoke
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i think this is a glitch, but i have 24 extra weapon upgrade points

soft crest
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I dont like that there are useless points, because whats the point then. Whats the point of the effort to obtain it all, if the last 20 is useless like a powerplant without a city to charge

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a waste of time to build and then a real dissapointement to look at not serving a purpose

steady lion
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A powerfantasy given to you
@errant bloom thats the point of 2016, just kill them all with massive firepower

elder meadow
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@errant bloom Well why don't you make it hard for yourself?

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Ye know, Eternal is also easy once you figure out what to do.

soft crest
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a powerfantasy given to you? would disagree on that

velvet spoke
velvet spoke
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Nice

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how does it happen though?

elder meadow
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You keep getting weapon points when you replay levels 🤷‍♂️

velvet spoke
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Alright. I'll keep doing that

soft crest
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thats some good number

errant bloom
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@soft crest you dont have to agree. Its just what hugo martin himself said

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@elder meadow like every game. Once you know it - gets easier. Doom eternal is just harder for the casual gamers - for the first time atleast. I dont find Eternal that difficult. Both UV respectively. But you CAN make it harder for yourself. Nightmare is pretty much harder in 2016. Atleast in the first few levels. But idrc. I like both equally.

soft crest
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2016 nightmare - unfair, eternal nightmare - fair, but more skill demanding

elder meadow
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That... makes absolutely no sense.

errant bloom
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I wouldnt say unfair. Imps have just that mega fireball damage that hurt VERY much. Especially with the Starting health. Im no expert regarding Nightmare tho. I just know i had more Trouble at the beginning of D2016 than the beginning of Eternal.

flint dune
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I’m going to agree that 2016’s Nightmare has some crummy ways in killing the player. Mainly from glory kills. Since that’s one of your only sources of health, you’re sometimes forced to perform one if you want to live. Unfortunately enemies can camp behind you and wait to attack once that animation is finished. This happens in Eternal as well but you have a lot more ways to evade instant KOs after glory killing in that game.

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That’s the only time I found 2016’s Nightmare “unfair”. When glory killing led to an unavoidable death.

mint yarrow
#

alguien pa jugah el doom???

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el 1

rigid grove
#

Is it just me or I still haven't unlocked rich get richer yet at all doomguy_pingery doomguy_ping doomguy_god_hd

robust carbon
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2016 at the beginning is hard but eternal is super rage inducing throughout the whole thing(on nightmare anyway)

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i play on console, i guess its a different experience with mouse and keyboard

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i still love both games and the toughness makes it more fun but i had to get used to dying like 100 times but im probably just trash

halcyon bear
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Rich get richer challenge megalel

velvet spoke
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i beat the game with classic weapon pose on and i set all my keybinds to the classic doom ones

halcyon bear
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Like a true man

fading oxide
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oh yeah well I beat the game doing that AND without looking up and down

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I also rendered the game at 200p

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and disabled jumping, and replaced all the maps with doom 1 maps, and replaced the hud with the classic doom hud, and replaced the weapons with sprites, and played it with gzdoom

vagrant fox
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Ok shit... i just started the lazarus lab mission and my BFG doesnt have ammo... guess i forgot to pick it up from the last level, how the hell do i kill the 8 demons in the hall way?

EDIT: Nvm, i did it in a demon battle later on.

fleet shadow
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i cant find matches on ps4 :(

elder meadow
#

Am I the only person who thinks this would've been awesome as the cyberdemon theme in 2016? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE7RHe83KwQ

Released in celebration of the Doom BETA!!!

The original was recorded by Michael Massay on a Roland SCC1 sound card. This song was created by Bobby Prince using MIDI software for ID software on the game "DOOM". This was my remake of this original song by Bobby Prince.

Suppor...

▶ Play video
elder meadow
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@elder meadow nah

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Eh, Fair, it wouldn't fit well with the soundtrack, but its still a badass theme

cinder shadow
#

So, for Doom 2016, if you have multiple people is there a way to farm any of the triumphs in multiplayer? (PS4). Mainly getting to lvl 44 for all the runes. I saw a video that seemed pretty good but was from 2017, not sure if it's still viable. From what I've seen update 6.66 changed everything up as far as getting the trophies and such.

rigid grove
#

I know hot tell when a demon is about to die

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*how

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The More Blood The Closer They Are To Death doomguy_pingery doomguy_god doomguy_god_hd

rigid grove
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@velvet spoke did you glory kill any demons

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Cause I f you did you would actually do it again without glory kills and grenades

elder meadow
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hey

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have any of you played doom vfr?

ornate basin
#

That game is discriminatory

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It doesn’t have a left handed mode

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And no vr glory kills

winged wigeon
elder meadow
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There's mods for snapmap?

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I didn't know that

vagrant fox
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I tried to kill 2 barons of hell with a single shot with BFG but it doesnt work since the accomplishment doesnt show up?

cinder shadow
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It works, I've gotten it several times that way. Maybe list glitched for you or something

vagrant fox
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So the BFG projectile needs to touch them directly?

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Its so annoying to place around these guys in nightmare

ornate basin
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That was broken for me for a long time

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I don’t know how I got it but it kinda just happened randomly

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Siege mode quad damage might work

vagrant fox
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Ok

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Ok, the projectile needs to touch both the barons in order to work, kill via splash damage do not work

proven niche
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exactly

halcyon bear
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Yee seige mode is the way to go

elder meadow
#

I’m saying it, DOOM 2016’s multiplayer was underrated

noble moat
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It was pretty fun

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Had plenty of issues, but overall I enjoyed it

elder meadow
#

Agreed

elder meadow
#

does anyone else have trouble seeing the crosshair for the heavy ar

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Yes. It scales with FOV. Higher fov makes it smaller.

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oh thanks for the info

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cuz i turned it to max

halcyon bear
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Those beefy heavy uranium rounds

elder meadow
#

is there a way to change the cross hair color?

halcyon bear
#

Heavy round scope ? No I dont believe so

elder meadow
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i meant without the scope

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like the basic crosshair

steady yacht
#

So Doom is 80gb worth download on PS4 and 24gb to start play - do you recommend I play later or now?

elder meadow
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It's 31GB if you're using repack

steady yacht
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Wdym?

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the download progress shows 24gb to start the game

hazy aspen
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hey guys

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soemone wants to play some DOOM?

obsidian skiff
#

I wish I could play 2016 without feeling empty to the lack of dashing

elder meadow
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Just use the Gauss...

elder meadow
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ssg+gauss quick switch, close enough

elder meadow
#

Does doom 2016 have like any extra single player content dlc type things?

hazy aspen
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nop

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as u can see the only thing u can buy is the Soundtrack

elder meadow
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Alright I was just wondering because I picked it up, and I liked doom eternal so I picked the first one up

hazy aspen
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can't send the print lmao

elder meadow
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Is the multiplayer still a thing it all in doom 2016?

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I know it’s there but is it still like active it all

hazy aspen
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multiplayer is still up

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but it takes a bit to get a lobby

elder meadow
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Hmmm do people still play on it often though?

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Alright thanks

hazy aspen
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i play every single day

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i want someone to play with me 😦

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but everyone is playing DOOM Eternal and i dont have money to buy it FeelsBadMan

elder meadow
#

Hmm I know it can go for cheeper on a website like e bay

hazy aspen
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true

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and i want to play it so badly

radiant halo
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@hazy aspen on steam doom eternal was like 20$ like a week ago

hazy aspen
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i know

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i wasn't home lmao

radiant halo
#

noooo

hazy aspen
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it was my holidays frick

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i waste so many good games with good prices

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F

radiant halo
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im sorry dude

hazy aspen
elder meadow
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does anyone know the unlimited ammo cheatcode for 2016

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that actually work?
ping me when you tell me ty

abstract isle
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fun fact

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on multiplayer right now, we're stuck in a glitched game of infernal run

halcyon bear
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How many hours now ?

abstract isle
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it was about an hour and a half, ended with the server crashing

modest zealot
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Bruh momento

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I was fighting the Guardians

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After the first one got game-ended I decided to start phase 2 with BFG spam

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Instant death in about 2 minutes

abstract isle
#

Just jump and SSG

modest zealot
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No

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Maining SSG is boring

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The impact effect is sus

noble moat
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Worst ssg in doom change my mind

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You can’t, because it’s true

ornate basin
#

Actually the one in tnt is the worst
Even though it’s the doom 2 one
If your using it your playing tnt

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Tnt makes everything worse

modest zealot
#

What

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May you elaborate

fading oxide
#

if we're using big brain logic I'm gonna say the worst super shotgun is the one in any console version of doom because you're forced to control it with an analog stick

modest zealot
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yowch

elder meadow
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Can we talk about how awesome that quote was in DOOM 2016?

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So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again. Corrax Entry 7:17

elder meadow
#

Is it weird that I like console doom more than PC Doom, but I prefer PC doom(1993)

halcyon bear
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Ssg can get upgraded to god teir though... kinda broken at that point

noble moat
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Nah. Even mastered its bad

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And is no longer a doom ssg

halcyon bear
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It doesnt feel right is the main reason I never used it

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Needs to feel more meaty

noble moat
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Doesn’t feel or look meaty
And then you have to be point blank for it to do anything

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It’s only good vs fodder. And I won’t waste time whiping out the ssg for fodder

halcyon bear
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Usually only used it when I fucked my switch up megalel

noble moat
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Same XD

halcyon bear
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Classic ssg will always be my favorite

noble moat
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Classic for its power and sound for sure,
Doom 3 can one shot like 95% of demons.

But 2016 just feels and sounds weak

halcyon bear
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A slug option for long range would have allowed it to be more versatile

red flume
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Damn. I don't love the 2016 SSG but I've never thought it felt weak. Maybe a bit high pitched sounding but still satisfying to use. I'll readily admit to preferring the combat shotgun though, even late game.

fallow creek
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Just started Doom (2016) I know I’m late to the party. Haha

hazy aspen
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i started some days ago

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dont worry

modest zealot
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I started the day before the summer sale

icy schooner
#

I've been revisiting Doom 2016 lately and I have to say say, Samuel Hayden's voice direction in 2016 was much better than it Eternal. In Eternal Samuel sounds like he's suffering from a hangover

ornate basin
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Well give him a break
The man did get cut in half

abstract isle
#

I do prefer his voice in 2016

fading oxide
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its almost like he aged 4 years or something

celest smelt
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sup guys

brisk arch
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2016 and computer able to run it have been acquired

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acquiring files from steam

waxen cipher
#

Has anyone realized how the DOOM 2016 OST has been released on Steam 5 months ago?

elder meadow
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Yes. Not uncompressed files tho. So pretty useless.

waxen cipher
#

That's a shame.

jaunty flower
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Does anyone here play the multiplayer for doom 2016 on xbox? Pretty hard to find a match and i'm looking to revive the multiplayer for achievements and such

velvet spoke
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yeah, i play on xbox and have a really hard time finding matches too

ornate grove
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Same here, on switch

halcyon bear
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You'll be hard pressed to find a match these days unfortunately

elder meadow
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Anyone wanna play on PS4?

elder meadow
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What’s it like to try and find a online game?

halcyon bear
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Takes a long time. Like a stupid long time

elder meadow
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I’ve played dead by daylight so I know about taking a long time to find games, hmmm is there a certain it’s more active?

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Free for all worked instantly

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Maybe I will just play that

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How do I spawn in?

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Oh it’s rounds

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For ps4 I noticed for me at least it's quick to find a match

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Is there no dash?

noble moat
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In 2016? No

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It was a feature added with eternal

elder meadow
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I miss it already

noble moat
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Yeah, it’s one of the biggest reasons people csnt go back to playing 2016 after eternal

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They get too used to dashing

elder meadow
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Don’t know how I feel about the multiplayer how’s the campaign? Doom 2016 or Eternal?

ornate basin
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Eternal

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Definitely 100%

halcyon bear
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@elder meadow you can add me if you like I'm on ps4 occasionally

elder meadow
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Ok! @halcyon bear I'm on pretty much every day my PSN is Verillian047 if you can add it or else I'll add you tomorrow if your PSN is your discord tag!

halcyon bear
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My names just gougaru like my username on here

elder meadow
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Ok!

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Is 2016 worth the play through @ornate basin

ornate basin
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Yeah

elder meadow
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I'm gonna try to sleep huge head ache I'll add you tomorrow have a good night

halcyon bear
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Cheers buddy

ornate basin
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It’s pretty fun

elder meadow
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@ornate basin hmmm do you think I should play 2016 first or it doesn’t matter

ornate basin
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2016 first

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It will suck if you get used to dashing before playing

noble moat
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Yeah I would suggest 2016 then eternal if possible

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Not necessarily for the story. But the drastic change in mechanics alone

elder meadow
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Well I got eternal and I’ve already played through a chunk of that

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Then I got 2016

ornate basin
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Play 2016
Then finish eternal

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2016 is so much slower
The play experience will be muc worse

elder meadow
#

You think it’s gonna be hard to come back to eternal?

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I think it’s gonna be harder not playing it

ornate basin
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I don’t think it will be that bad

elder meadow
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I don’t know I’ve been having a lot of fun with eternal

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But I will try to get through 2016

ornate basin
#

You can finish eternal if you’re in a groove
But 2016 will be rough starting out

toxic saddle
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hello

crisp path
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yoooo anyone for NA teamplay?

elder meadow
#

anyone know any effective weapon combos?

hazy aspen
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Rocket Launcher and Plasma Weapon @elder meadow

elder meadow
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which plasma weapon and what mods

hazy aspen
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forgot the name

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lmao

elder meadow
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ty

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i want something new for my ua playthrough]

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i cant stop using double shot super shotgun + gauss cannon precision shot

halcyon bear
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Use only the pistol

elder meadow
#

Melee only?

brisk arch
#

doom 2016 acquired boys, only took a day and a half

halcyon bear
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Now rip and tear until it is done

brisk arch
#

it runs, and quite well too

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i need to get some water and lube for these demons assholes im about to demolish

elder meadow
#

Can you melee a mancubus? 🤔

brisk arch
#

How do I use mic in online

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No one is playing multiplayer oof

brisk arch
#

That's what your mom said

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When I asked if she would like some financial support to be able to take care of you and the rest of your family

elder meadow
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How to glory kill in snapmap mode?

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nvm I figured it out

elder meadow
#

I did the foundry mission I finished got off and the whole mission restarted why did it do that?

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Wait a minute

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Do you go back through the level?

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Nope why did it restart me?

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Nevermind it didn’t I didn’t do this level I don’t know why I thought I did

errant bloom
#

I like some unique GKs in its MP like cmon man killing a mancubus with its own weapon and ripping out a revenants tongue. How cool is that? Why they aint in the Singleplayer tho. Idk... maybe because it was made by another team.

noble moat
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Yeah the MP specific GK were awesome

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Probably had to do with a different team who made the MP

brisk arch
#

What is the hardest common monster in 2016

ornate basin
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Imp

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Imp is the worse demon including bosses

noble moat
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^

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Honestly
In all my playthroughs
The most damage I receive from demons is imps

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And maybe summoners

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Only when they blind side me and shoot through walls or the floor

elder meadow
#

I spent so long typing that just to have “no spamming”

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aaaaaaaaa

halcyon bear
#

Snipping imps 💯

elder meadow
#

I wish people were on PS4

halcyon bear
#

Dooms more of a solo experience generally speaking but ya

elder meadow
#

Oh hi gougaru and yeah

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Just like playing games with people are more fun

halcyon bear
#

I'll be back on in a couple of days. Hurt my eye

elder meadow
#

Hope it heals!

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Also if you don't mind me asking what happened?

noble moat
#

See normal people take an arrow to the knee....

elder meadow
#

Do you know what that reference means?

sacred mantle
#

what upgrades do people suually go for first in ultra nightmare? trying it for the first time rn

noble moat
#

Marriage

sacred mantle
#

just cleared mission 1

elder meadow
#

Yes good

noble moat
#

For nightmare. I go for
Heatblast on plasma in level 2

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On level 3 I get secret rpg
Circle back and give it lock on

halcyon bear
#

Just some junk got in I'll be fine in a few days. Good luck on nightmare. Good times

sacred mantle
#

lol died to a fucking unwilling yet was at 100 health

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at the first gore nest

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i was 50/100, have a mini cutscene where i open the door, and an unwilling hits me and takes out my armor before i can even move away

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door shuts right behind me so i cant get the armor from the room before, and ofc its locked until you beat the gore nest

halcyon bear
#

Just dont give up. Bull happens.

sacred mantle
#

of course

elder meadow
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"Honestly
In all my playthroughs
The most damage I receive from demons is imps
And maybe summoners
Only when they blind side me and shoot through walls or the floor"
or through other demons

noble moat
#

Oh boy through other demons is the worse

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When they are behind a mancubus or hellknight and you can’t see them

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The a red beam hits you through the hellknight

elder meadow
#

Tbh i think i take most damage from Soldier Bombs

noble moat
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The red ones?

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Red Orbs

elder meadow
#

Yes

noble moat
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Yeah those too

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Soldier red orbs which track you through things and somehow always hit
Aimtbot imps
And summoners

Are pretty much the main damage I take in 2016

elder meadow
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"soldier red orbs which track you through things and somehow always hit" wait they do that?

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Well no, but their blast radius is pretty maasive.

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oh

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well thats annoying lol

#

i guess thats why ye gotta move

noble moat
#

Well yeah, but if you move and the orb is right there you will take damage no matter what

#

The question is how close are you/ rng enough to take less than 30-40

elder meadow
#

yeah

brisk arch
#

Is there a way to consistently get death from above glory kills

noble moat
#

More or less you would need double jump

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Or stand on a railing and jump

brisk arch
#

Ok

#

I'm trying to get the to be knighted in the argent facility

halcyon bear
#

Rocket jump

noble moat
#

Lol don’t do that

abstract isle
#

stagger them next to a crate or box

brisk arch
#

Bruh now I can't even get above on the first hell knight

abstract isle
#

jump on box, jump above knight, GC

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There's one area near the highest gore nest where there's a couple of crates, I just ran around that in circles until he staggered

brisk arch
#

Can you get death from above on same ground or no

abstract isle
#

no you need to be above them

brisk arch
#

Yeah

abstract isle
#

so you need to jump off something or double jump

brisk arch
#

Do I need to look down at them too

abstract isle
#

You need to look at them yeah

brisk arch
#

How do I double jump,

noble moat
#

You can’t

brisk arch
#

Is that later?

#

Oh ok

abstract isle
#

if you haven't got double jump yet then you need to climb onto a box and jump from that

noble moat
#

Yes later in another level

brisk arch
#

How many levels until double

#

Cause so far besides that challenge I am 100%

abstract isle
#

I think it's in the next one, but the challenge is doable without

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I did it first time on nightmare, just run around a box and you can do it

brisk arch
#

It's my first time playing so I'm doing too you ng

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Obviously

abstract isle
#

I skipped that one and went for hmp but fair enough if you're not used to fps it's a good starting point

#

just keep shooting the guy, run around a box and you should be fine

brisk arch
#

I've never had a good computer lol

noble moat
#

They mean fps as in first person shooters

abstract isle
#

^ indeed

brisk arch
#

Ik

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And I mean that I've never had a good computer to run any decent fps games

noble moat
#

Neither have I?

brisk arch
#

So, I'm new to the genre

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That's all I was saying

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Well anyway, I'm either going to fall asleep now listening to David Attenborough or go back to ripping and tearing

brisk arch
#

I did it with the first two hell knights on my first try back

halcyon bear
#

You never forget your first 2 hellknights

elder meadow
#

Hey what’s the red things near the bottom of my gun

flint dune
#

Not sure what you mean

elder meadow
#

Hmm like the gun icon right below there’s a couple of red line things

soft crest
#

@elder meadow thats the blood

elder meadow
#

Blood of what?

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I just lost one

soft crest
#

of your friend at the laser tag, youre gonna have to run now. the cops are after you. Fly to Alaska, and hide there. Say hello to Hitler for me.

elder meadow
#

I will send a picture

soft crest
#

please dont

elder meadow
#

@flint dune I send you picture

flint dune
#

Alright

soft crest
#

gage, dont you hear the sirens? RUN

red flume
#

@elder meadow the red lines are your chainsaw ammo

soft crest
#

ohh, that thíjng

frosty valley
#

i can not express more of the fact that olivia pierce looks like a crippled elderly woman combined with an after photo of what happens when you smoke for a long period of time

halcyon bear
#

Deals with hell.... not even once ...

round otter
#

D e m o n i c p r e s e n c e a t u n s a f e l e v e l s

#

L o c k d o w n i n e f f e c t

elder meadow
#

i can hear this

elder meadow
#

(x) S ame

strong bluff
#

Me too, it's Cursed

noble moat
#

Ha that sounds great

soft crest
#

Dimension magik

elder meadow
#

@elder meadow Had a Baron clip through the ground entirely and fall through the map.
Was hilarious.

#

"That Baron had better things to do."

halcyon bear
#

Wheelchair baron ?

red flume
#

say less, bro

elder meadow
#

People didn’t like this games multiplayer? Seems fun to me

#

Also how do you do a glory kill online?

brisk arch
#

okay so im super new to 2016 like i havent finsihed my first campaign

#

should i run it nightmare on stream?

noble moat
#

Glory kill the same as you would in campaign

leaden condor
#

Just noticed that the guy who had the doom 2016 soundtrack on YouTube got their channel terminated

#

CapitalCorn I think it was

#

Keep in mind their upload of bfg division was the one with like 20 million views

flint dune
#

Oh yeah I had a playlist with some of those songs from his channel and saw that they were taken down about a month ago.

cinder shadow
#

Do they EVER do 2x Multiplayer exp for this game anymore? 🤔 Or are they pretty much done doing things in this one

noble moat
#

Games been done for quite some time now

cinder shadow
#

It's only 4 years old... That's too bad. Especially considering the grind to get a piece of robot / cyber demon armor for the trophies ;/

noble moat
#

Level grinding is actually incredibly fast compared to most games

#

Don’t forget to use the bounty rune as well

#

100 bonus exp every Kill

cinder shadow
#

It is fast, I was more than happy to get to lvl 44 for the "get all runes" trophy... But the other ones are like 10x that lol JUST for those achievements. My own fault for being late to the party I guess

modest zealot
#

Did anyone ever notice most of the weapons are modernized Doom 3 weps?

noble moat
#

Most of the models were also from doom 4

#

If u look the ssg is almost identical

elder meadow
#

same with the normal shotty

stark rapids
#

whats up

steady yacht
#

how hard is the plat on this one guys?

elder meadow
#

plat as in platinum or platforming?

steady yacht
#

ahh sorry platinum

elder meadow
#

Multiplayer will be hard considering that not many people play it.

#

But if you do manage to find lobbies, it is not the worst grind imaginable.

#

There are 550 levels. You will get 2-4 levels per match depending on how you perform.

stark rapids
#

interesting

steady yacht
#

You need to complete all 550 levels?

#

Also can't the trophies be boosted? I mean have someone guinea pig me while I kill them and get wins

elder meadow
#

Aryzon is right; lobbies are hard to find. My reason for joining this server was because I could not find anyone to play with online. I thought, maybe, I could ask around here.

worn hawk
#

same

#

only in team fight

#

but team fight is boring in my opionion

elder meadow
#

I can agree, yes.
At this point, I don't care what mode I play. I just wanted to try out the multiplayer.

#

I have managed to find one match a few days ago, but it was the bear minimum of players.

#

Unrelated, but I do not own Doom Eternal yet. That's why I'm playing 2016. I started with 2016 on Nintendo Switch, then picked it up on PS4 when it was on a crazy sale. Been having a blast, despite multiplayer being stagnant.

#

MP on PC in Europe is pretty alive.

#

Ah. I unfortunately don't own a PC anymore. Thanks for letting me know, though.

steady yacht
#

For Glory Kill challenges in missions, does rinse and repeat by loading checkpoint count as multiple kills?

elder meadow
#

Only if you die.

steady yacht
#

Thanks

halcyon bear
#

Ps4 multiplayer trophies are doable. But it ll be a grind

steady yacht
#

Definitely, which MP trophy isn't?

halcyon bear
#

The ones without dead servers

soft crest
#

?

#

@halcyon bear just do offline matches with bots

halcyon bear
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Sounds boring

noble moat
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Does that actually level you up@.

soft crest
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It works with achievements and the challenges or whatever they called I remember

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So likely also with levels

odd ridge
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Hey what's the name of the snapmap that's sort of like call of duty?(buyable weapons and stuff)

worn hawk
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what is the snap map never went too it

elder meadow
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Bots do not give you levels.

halcyon bear
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Thought so. People would exploit and farm the shit out of it if it did

elder meadow
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Considering how dead the multiplayer is, i think it is about time id had allowed to get levels from bot matches.

halcyon bear
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It's dead af bro...

soft crest
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Team modes are still very much alive

halcyon bear
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Now that would be soild if the game was cross platform

soft crest
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@halcyon bear it is cross platform. It is not cross play. People should finally learn the terms

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Also, doom 2016 snapmap is cross play. Whuch is nice

opal eagle
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Man replaying 2016 after eternal is so weird at first

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Keep trying to dash and double jump lmao

halcyon bear
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@soft crest dont be an ass you knew what I meant

soft crest
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@halcyon bear i did know what you meant, im just angry people still dont know the terms. Also again snap is crossplay, multiplayer isnt because then people would complain its unfair pc vs console

halcyon bear
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That's a huge argument I see often. I play both pc and ps4 and I can tell you I can straight destroy a pc player with dumb sticks but will get pounded if I use a keyboard. Everyone has their strengths

elder meadow
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MP should he free to play.
That is my final verdict.

soft crest
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That wouldnt solve anything. Making stuff f2p doesnt make it popular. @elder meadow

elder meadow
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(looks at CSGO)

soft crest
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It would actually more hurt the game

halcyon bear
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I dislike the free to play model on so many levels

elder meadow
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Dude there will be no model.

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The game will just be free. That's it.

halcyon bear
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Aryzon. I get what you're saying but game companies abuse free to play so hard these days

noble moat
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Don’t forget to take this to #general
But F2P is incredibly smart

halcyon bear
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Wait I'm not on general... damn to many beers

elder meadow
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The only new thing that will have to be added to the MP is some form of anti cheat.

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what are beers, i drink blood

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For everything else, the game is practically as polished as it can be, and has enough content for people to stick for a while.

soft crest
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F2p alone is not smart. Its simply a different way to sell the game.

noble moat
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General

soft crest
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Ok bob, lets go there

elder meadow
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@noble moat We are talking about Doom 2016 tho?

elder meadow
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@steady yacht I tried playing in the European regions on PS4. Way more players there than North America and others. Try that, buddy. 🤘

noble moat
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2016 definitely worth the full price

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But of course a sale is always good

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I would say wait for Quakecon. Might be a sale around then.
If not, definitely by Black Friday I would think

elder meadow
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@elder meadow I bought it on Switch a while back and loved it. Then, it went on a crazy sale on PS4, and so I bought it and played that version. I jump between versions. If you're hurting on money, do wait for a sale. But if you got the money to spare, its definitely worth your money.

noble moat
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It’s in 6 days

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Special event where they talk about doom stuff quake stuff Bethesda stuff etc

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Key doom stuff would be the opening keynote. And the panel with Hugo and Marty
You don’t want to miss those 2 moments

red flume
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Key as in "important." All the details you'll want to know/see.

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were you thinking of buying it on steam?

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Np dude.

elder meadow
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Anyone wants to play doom snap map?

noble moat
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Ayyy Good Guy Zirtonic hooking up a fellow slayer with more doom

red flume
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If there is a god he put me on Earth to spread the Word of the Slayer.

elder meadow
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Is there like a doom slayer skin you could use online I saw someone with one

noble moat
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I believe you unlock it at the final level

abstract isle
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At the final level of the mp you unlock the praetor yes

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But the custom armours are fun, you can recognise people base on their armour

steady yacht
abstract isle
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^ I think it's max tier

obsidian smelt
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Is the multiplayer still alive? Like how long does it take to find match ? On ps4

modest zealot
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Oh uh

flint dune
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About an hour

floral wraith
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pc guy here, takes me about 30 mins to find a game

halcyon bear
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Ps4 multiplayer is pretty ded

elder meadow
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Has anyone had any difficulty after receiving the BFG?

noble moat
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Wym

elder meadow
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Shortly after receiving the BFG, I found it hard to advance in the game because it became a lot more difficult.

noble moat
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Ah

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That portion of the game specifically wants you to use the BFG

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That’s why there are BFG cells lying around

elder meadow
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Yeah, I've noticed. Thanks for the help!

noble moat
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Think of it as a
“Tutorial”

elder meadow
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I think that will definitely come in handy!

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Yeah, that makes sense to me.

noble moat
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Here’s a huge op weapon. Now see what it can do
That’s why the first encounter is tons of possessed
Looks cool but they are weak

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That’s why the next encounter is tons of medium and heavy demons

elder meadow
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Yeah, that's the encounter I've been stuck on. I've rage quit a couple of times.

noble moat
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It’s definitely tough without using the BFG

elder meadow
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Yeah, I've noticed 🤣

hazy aspen
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I just finished kill Cyberdemon, what a fun boss

elder meadow
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How far into the game is that?

hazy aspen
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next to BFG

elder meadow
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Awesome! I've got a lot to look forward to 🤣

hazy aspen
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i'm passing the game in normal, but i want to play it in ULTRA NIGHTMARE

noble moat
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Oh boy you might want to play nightmare a few dozen times first

hazy aspen
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LUL

noble moat
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On nightmare the majority of demons do 100+ damage

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Even a simple imp can do 75

elder meadow
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Tbh that last Advanced Research Complex fight was quite hard indeed.

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Ofc, asuming you don't BFG your way out of it.

noble moat
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Yea without BFG it’s a really hard challenge.

elder meadow
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At one point there are like 3 Cyber Mancubi, 2 Caco Demons and bunch of fodder all at once after your sorry ass.

noble moat
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It’s arguably one of the hardest fights in 2016

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If you don’t use BFG of course

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Followed by Vega Central Processing

elder meadow
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I still consider the train room to be the hardest

noble moat
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Central processing is a super hard Level. Assuming you don’t touch BFG or powerups

elder meadow
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But that one can definitely take second place.

noble moat
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Train doom definitely hard. Tons of cyber mancs summoners. Barons. Etc

hazy aspen
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What i love about DOOM is the soundtrack

weak kayak
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sup,im new here

hazy aspen
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welcome dude

weak kayak
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thanks

ornate basin
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The nicest thing id software ever did
Was skipping the imp room on ultra nightmare

noble moat
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Agreed. 2016 start is slow enough. Imagine having to start even slower

flint dune
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Eternal makes you do the tutorial section on UN...it sucks

ornate basin
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I would’ve never made it out of the imp room
No mods
Your shitty shotgun

noble moat
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Yes. But eternals level isnt slow and much faster paced and you get a mod

ornate basin
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At least in eternal you have a mod
The shotgun doesn’t suck
The first fight is actually a fight
Not just fucking imps

noble moat
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Heck the first level or eternal gives you 2 guns and 2 mods

ornate basin
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Imps are scary in this game

noble moat
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I hate how slow 2016 is to get good

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I understand the need to smooth people back into the franchise after the reboot
But man

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5 slow levels to start

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I’ve watched the first 3 levels of eternal.
The first level alone is already at a very acceptable speed

hazy aspen
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That Berserker thing is not funny lol

elder meadow
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I recently purchased DOOM Eternal and I’ve put about 10 minutes into it so far. Do you all think DOOM 2016 was better or do you prefer DOOM Eternal?

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I actually really enjoyed the presentation of DOOM 2016 too. I was a little disappointed in the presentation of DOOM Eternal.

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I have to admit, although I only have a few minutes of gameplay in DOOM Eternal, it does have much better gameplay.

red flume
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I think the combat feels more refined in Eternal and I like the dash/blood punch a lot, but overall I prefer 2016's approach. Especially with regards to the narrative.

elder meadow
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How many hours into the game do you get the blood punch?

red flume
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30 minutes maybe? Depends on how fast you can beat the first level.

elder meadow
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That’s something to look forward too!

red flume
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Actually I'd say 20. 30 is around the end of Exultia for me.

elder meadow
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2016 for me.

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Eternal is great, but i do not think it tops Doom 2016.

weak kayak
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I hate how slow 2016 is to get good
I honestly agree, in my opinion 2016 feels more like a mix of the classic dooms and doom 3, while eternal feels way more accurate to the original games.

ornate basin
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Imo
I really cannot think of a single thing 2016 does better then eternal

red flume
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Better level design seems like the most obvious one without getting into opinion-based narrative stuff

elder meadow
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Graphics
Sound
Weapon Switching
Not relying on cheap escape mechanics
Getting hit actually hurts, and you cannot heal back that health and armor by killing 2 Possessed.

ornate basin
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Weapon switching is funny
2016 encourages you to not do that since most of the weapons are completely op

weak kayak
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Yeah, Eternal improved lots of stuff from 2016 and the original games too, the pain elemental kinda looked goofy in doom 2, while in Eternal he looks way more badass lol.

elder meadow
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It does not encourage but does not prevent it either.

ornate basin
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You can use 1 weapon in every level without problems

red flume
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That's another good point: There are no Pain Elementals in 2016, so it's instantly better.

elder meadow
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Doom Eternal encourages and prevents it at the same time.
You cannot use your entire arsenal in 6 seconds to take down a single demon.

Which is something you can do in Doom 2016.

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Oh yes. Doom 2016 also has much better animation.

I at this point lost track of how many times a Pinky charged me sideways in Doom Eternal, a Dread Knight clipped through 3 walls and other animation bugs that lead to completely hilarious moments.

ornate basin
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Why bother doing that though
Double ssg blast or siege mode is always faster

elder meadow
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No it's not faster.

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Easier and more practical? Yes.
Choice is yours which approach to take.

ornate basin
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And this game has the worst ssg in the doom games

elder meadow
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Why double Siege when you can shoot a BFG and get that BFG ammo back with the mastered Ammo Rune megalel

ornate basin
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I never used the bfg in this game because It’s basically cheating
Instantly wins all fights

elder meadow
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Using your entire arsenal to take down a Mancubus is way more fun to me, and as such, that is the approach i take.

In Eternal i have no option other than to use 1 specific weapon for each demon type.

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Or maybe 2 on rare occassions. Because switching and mod activating takes way too long.

ornate basin
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If you say so
The worst thing about this game Is it’s difficulty

elder meadow
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That is true, unfortunately.

ornate basin
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It’s piss easy unless you play on nightmare
Then it’s just sadistic bullshit

elder meadow
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Tho you can force yourself into some limitations to avoid that problem.

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Nightmare is easy as well. Especially if you abuse all the tools given

ornate basin
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The only way to make this game hard
Is to make it less fun

elder meadow
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Chad Run Ultra Nightmare tho... That will be a different story.

ornate basin
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Like pistol only

elder meadow
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I will soon start my first attempt on that.

ornate basin
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No

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Don’t do it

elder meadow
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No Siege
No Power Ups
No Equipment
No BFG
No Ammo Runes

ornate basin
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Oh

elder meadow
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Those are the Chad Run rules.

ornate basin
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I thought you said you were gonna do pistol only

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No one should be subjected to that

elder meadow
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Meh Pistol only will be testing my patience more than my skill at that point.

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Something that Wolfenstein is already killing me at.

ornate basin
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It’s the worst thing ever

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I did a pistol only run

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I took my soul

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And made me not play this game for over 3 months

halcyon bear
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I'm pretty sure I'm the ass that suggested that to you

noble moat
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nightmare
No BFG
No certain runes
No ssg
No siege
No powerups
No holo
No ammo upgrade

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Don’t forget the real chad rules

steady yacht
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Anyone wanna do MP on PS4?

brittle wedge
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ps4

elder meadow
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I, too, play on PS4. Switch, too.

halcyon bear
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Add me you fools

elder meadow
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On?

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I guess here. Sure.

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Or not.

halcyon bear
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Ps4

elder meadow
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Ah. What's your handle?

brittle wedge
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fortbattle

elder meadow
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Sent request.

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Sent a request to you as well, Gougaru.

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avid_metroid_fan is mine.

halcyon bear
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It's the same as it's on discord

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Gougaru

weak kayak
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Does anyone have some tips for Ultra Nightmare?
I barely can even get past the 1st stage, i kinda do my best to move everywhere to not get hit, trying as well to not move in a single direction but i always end up being sniped by an imp or a soldier.

noble moat
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Step 1 play the game numerous times on nightmare

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Do this until you perfect the doom dance

weak kayak
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Alright, i'll try that, i should probably keep in mind where every enemy spawns too, thanks for the tip.

elder meadow
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Doom dance? Please enlighten me. I'm interested.

abstract isle
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Are peeps complaining again about the power fantasy game being easy on the easier difficulties?

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Play nightmare with self imposed challenges then

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Or make a relentless snapmap

brittle wedge
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bfg division or the only thing they fear is you

elder meadow
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I've not listened to "The Only Thing They Fear Is You" yet. 👉👈

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I've been more or less avoiding Doom Eternal stuff till I got the game myself.

halcyon bear
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Meathook

velvet spoke
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The Super Gore Nest

red flume
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Of the given options: BFG Division.
Overall: Flesh and Metal.

ornate basin
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Of those two choices
The doom 3 theme

elder meadow
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of those 2 choices:
un36.mid

brittle wedge
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ok

elder meadow
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anyone wanna play?

elder meadow
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I might later.

pure venture
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I like the fleshyness of the demons in this game

elder meadow
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Indeed.

weak kayak
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I finally got some actual progress on Ultra Nightmare lol, i got to the foundry but i'll probably practice in nightmare before giving it a shot in ultra nightmare, mainly cause of the hell knights.

noble moat
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My tip is get the rpg on foundry and give it lock on

weak kayak
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They shouldn't be really difficult to counter i guess, especially with stun bombs.

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My tip is get the rpg on foundry and give it lock on
Yeah i should do that.

halcyon bear
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You should listen to Bob. Hes basically an ultra nightmare pro at this point

elder meadow
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Ive started to mess around with snapmap

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Its pretty cool, a bit complex tho

flint dune
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Nah. Once you get the basics down, it’s pretty simple.

weak kayak
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You should listen to Bob. Hes basically an ultra nightmare pro at this point
Yeah his tips are helping me out a lot.

soft crest
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Really get every weapon as soon as possible, there isnt a reason not to anyways

noble moat
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Doing full secrets/ early weapons adds tons of time to the overall early levels. But the sooner you get weapon/ mod combos and upgrades, the better

halcyon bear
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Or just do a pistol run like a man

noble moat
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No. Stop. You must be stopped

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That pistol is a waste of my imaginary slayer backpack

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I hate accidentally switching to it because it would be more effective to just melee a demon

ornate basin
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Smacking the demons with your pinky toe does more damage

halcyon bear
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Who's upgraded the pistol all the way?

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What's it like ?

noble moat
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Still garbage

elder meadow
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Pistol having upgrades is probably the most confusing thing in Doom to this day.

noble moat
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I like how they added upgrades to it thinking that would magically make it relevant as a weapon

ornate basin
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Calling the demons poopoo heads does more damage

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If a demon punched you
The force applied to the demon’s hand would do more damage

abstract isle
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It's alright if you use the pistol to snipe possessed or unwilling, or shoot barrels

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other than that, literally use anything else

noble moat
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Even then that’s pointless

abstract isle
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Agreed, you should never need to use it

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But I don't mind having it

noble niche
#

Coming back to doom after learning how to quick switch in doom eternal really changed the game

soft crest
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@noble moat wonder if that may have been intentional. Give a shit long range weapon and a decent close range. And its obvious what im gonna go for. If it was absent maybe we would play it more safely and further from the danger.

abstract isle
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Keep practicing and you'll get the hang of it

elder meadow
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Welcome to arena shooters.

velvet spoke
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I like using the reaper, I get so many kills with it

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rocket launchers and grenade launchers don't work too well againsed skilled players

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Yes, also I have the rocket launcher as my secondary to kill people with demon runes

abstract isle
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I used to use the reaper, I main plasma super with tesla

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Yeah dual explosives don't work in some situations

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I mainly use ranged or spectre because of my ping

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Although I've done pretty well with baron

#

Different demons are good on different maps

soft crest
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From my experience on pc its pretty shit

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Spectre

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My top 2 combos: grenade-pistol; rocket-plasma. Worked wonders.

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For demon I always take harvester

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Hes got a laser thingy. And the bfg shot is also nice

abstract isle
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From mine, spectre is good so long as you don't get stuck

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rocket plasma is pretty good, very useful on domination and warpath

soft crest
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I suppose on console spectre is better but on pc I dont see it

abstract isle
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Well if you know a bunch of dudes will be in one spot, bullrush with spectre and watch the multikill rack up

soft crest
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Tru

abstract isle
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like I said, certain demons, certain maps and modes

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Like spectre on warpath is perfect

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spectre on orbital is suicidal

soft crest
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Dont know the map layout to that point of hot zones and stuff.

abstract isle
#

Orbital just has a lot of jumps and you don't want to risk them as spectre, the campaign shouldn't take you too long for 2016, at least on UV or lower

soft crest
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@elder meadow depends on what you count as perfection. Perfecting everything can take hundreds of hours. Perfecting playstyle up to 100 you could get close.

abstract isle
#

By perfecting do you mean something like an ultra nightmare run or just achievement completion?

soft crest
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A list of things you can do: Campaign 100%, Un, Arcade Slayer ratings, Multiplayer max level, snapmap puzzles, snapmap map making, getting all snapmap items,...

abstract isle
#

Major what do you play on?

soft crest
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Theres more, just the first ones that came on mind

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Retro levels for example

abstract isle
#

if you're up for it, I'm probably about to jump on mp

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ok but what difficulty

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because hmp 100% is easy, un 100%....

soft crest
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Then go to nightmare in that case

elder meadow
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Nightmare lives up to its name.

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Haha. Good one.

soft crest
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There is for doing the first level on un.

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Unfortunately not for the whole campaign

abstract isle
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Nightmare is so much better than UV, the difference jump makes you really feel challenged

elder meadow
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Wolfenstein has an achievement for beating the game on Mein Leben.
What a fucking mistake that is.