Yay
#doom-2016
reef kelp
worldly robin
who likes my discord nickname
vast pawn
The original one can't tell yet, the one in here, there surely is truth to it
worldly robin
look at the real discord profile name now
vast pawn
ok ig
worldly robin
bruh
reef kelp
Mostly me saying “eat shit” to imps
worldly robin
lol
elder meadow
Hmm relatable
Tho i mostly say "piss off" when you get those moments where 6 demons at once start meleeing you.
reef kelp
I am a noob though
worldly robin
oof
reef kelp
I’ve never played doom before
worldly robin
i mean a REAL nub
worldly robin
literally anyone can do hurt me plenty as soon as they start and yes
or ultra violence
stuck nebula
I thought UV was the way to go
worldly robin
it is
sharp lantern
anyone wanna do a friendly 1v1?
worldly robin
hmm
sharp lantern
hmm
I just got off too
@worldly robin if you're on tomorrow we can hook up and do 1v1
elder meadow
where are dooms 4-2015?
worldly robin
doom 4 is doom 2016
elder meadow
Doom 4 was Doom 2016 that got cancelled.
fossil island
https://youtu.be/PS6SBnccxMA?t=665
@elder meadow Timestamp 11:05 (Doom "4")
Im glad we got Doom 2016 instead of the game/concept that was shown in the noclip documentary
vast pawn
^
soft crest
Sometimes I still have to wonder what the doom 4 would be like if it didnt restart.
fossil island
I think still a pretty darn good shooter. But it wouldnt have fit in the Doom franchise
elder meadow
It would have been Rage but during the apocalypse if you get what i mean 
elder meadow
i make a dumbass joke and get corrected by 3 people, i know lmao, doom 4 concept looks like ass
ornate basin
Honestly I think it’s because no one wants to talk about doom 73
That was just horrible
soft crest
@elder meadow it looked great, but didnt play like doom. If it was a rage 2 or something I think it would be pretty grea
ornate basin
It looked bad and it should feel bad
noble moat
If every ally with you died by episode 2 and then it was you vs the horde it could have been interesting,
We just didn’t see enough to truly make a real consensus about it though.
For all we know it Could have been a 14 hour game and we only saw about 3 min of it,
Most of it trailer
elder meadow
i'd like to see a more tactical spinoff that relies less on ripping and tearing and more on stealth and ammo management.
noble moat
Doom but metro
ornate basin
Doom 3?
elder meadow
never put the slayer in it though
noble moat
Nah doom 3 is still very much rip and tear
elder meadow
doom 3 isnt that bro
fossil island
Doom 3 is awesome. And there is a Coop Mod for it. Its so much fun playing this game in coop
ornate basin
Doom 3 is a slower game which you are definitely less powerful then doomguy in any of the other games
I love doom 3 and I feel like the original model of doom 4 was leaning towards it
noble moat
You should be constantly pushing faster harder stronger. Using sprint bobbing and weaving.
Anyone who says doom 3 is a slow doom game has never played it correctly
Me from yesterday^
soft crest
I want to see a series in the sentinel age. That would be perfect imo
ornate basin
I am bad at it
noble moat
It’s obviously nowhere near doom 2016 speed. But it’s far from a slow game
ornate basin
I mean slow compared to 2016 and eternal
Doom 3 is more in pace with most other shooters
The rest of doom is so much faster
fossil island
I mean if you are scared (Like me when i was uhm.. younger 
) Doom 3 can be a very slow game 
ornate basin
Back to 2016
This game is a lot more dickish then eternal
Especially with fucking imps
noble moat
Truth
fossil island
I just hate imp's in 2016...
ornate basin
50 damage with the quick fireball
grand sun
Anyone playing multiplayer? For some reason there is more normal players now
By normal I mean not super tryhards
Its actually fun to play now
soft crest
Yeah, it was fun since around eternal launch. Had some great time
ornate basin
Are there still
Trip mines
Rocket launchers
Everyone camping the powerups spawns
Specters
Cacodemons
Terrible spawns
Get rid of those and it would be fun
soft crest
@ornate basin rocket launchers are super fun lol
ornate basin
Not to fight against
ornate basin
The haverster was pretty cool
Shame they didn’t bring him into eternal
First time playing multiplayer in a while
Let’s see how it goes
That was throughly unsatisfying
soft crest
Harvester should have been in nekroval. Would make that level much more interesting
ornate basin
Forgot how lame vega was as the announcer
grand sun
Is cacodemon powerful and should not be used?
soft crest
Mp is fun, there were some questionable notDoom choices, but when you take it for what it is, its fun
grand sun
I was scared to take demon thing even if I killed the demon because I had no idea how to play as them and didn't want to ruin game for my teammates
So who should I use for demon? Any tips?
soft crest
I found harvester to be the easiest to play, while also the most fun
@grand sun if you want you can train the demons in offline matches
ornate basin
Also screw clan arena
grand sun
You can get bots in 2016?
ornate basin
I’m not playing 9 rounds of that without demons
And there’s only one lobby so I’m instantly back in
grand sun
So I should use anyone but spectre
ornate basin
I got back on a couple minutes ago and have played mancubus and prowler
Out of those two pick mancubus
soft crest
@grand sun yup you can do offline matches with bots
grand sun
Yeah I don't understand how mancubi works yet, I was just walking by and got demolished in second
grand sun
Just wait for other lobbies to end
ornate basin
That’s what I did
I’m about to play freeze tag
It has to be better then clan arena
grand sun
You don't like it just because there is no demons, right?
grand sun
And I guess the meta there is ballista instead of shotguns?
noble moat
Gauss* is a power weapon so it doesn’t appear in clan arena
grand sun
Yeah I don't know what's the name for railgun
noble moat
Clan arena is a single life no heals team deathmatch with no powerups powerweapons health pickups or ammo pickups
It’s ok but heavily depends on a competent team and if any team is using mics they pretty much win
ornate basin
Fucking trip mines
noble moat
And those
Oh man those,
Things I will forever hate in Multiplayer games. Trip mins and claymores
No skill free kill garbage
ornate basin
Ok doom 2016 mp I give you that
Ice tag was a legitimately fun game mode
Next up is warpath
grand sun
What should we use for non toxic grenades?
noble moat
It’s fun until you face people who toss trip mines on every Ice sculpture
grand sun
I was using shock grenade lately
noble moat
Frag
ornate basin
Lets see if warpath is any good
grand sun
How much does it deal?
noble moat
Oh man warpath is probably my favorite
King of the hill but better,
But watch out for kinetic mines
ornate basin
Oh the memories
The horrible horrible spectre memories
Another warpath
Got a glory kill on the enemy demon so that’s cool
worldly robin
im on now bois
sharp lantern
1v1 any1? kinda bored doe
sharp lantern
ight
noble moat
Then you should have mastered shotgun and lock on rockets by now
reef kelp
I need 1 more upgrade point
noble moat
Ah you don’t 100% the 2 levels before it
reef kelp
I did
noble moat
Where did you put your points?
reef kelp
I think I spent an upgrade point somewhere else
noble moat
I suggest not touching HMG until level 4
And only give plasma 1 point
reef kelp
Ight
Yeah I used the other point for the plasma rifle
Still have 2 gore nests to take care of though
grand sun
I played multiplayer for about 3 hours and man, I hate this mines and that mage demon who use lightning at distance
And I still couldn't figure out demon for myself, all of them have their problems
ornate basin
The mines are the worst
You don’t know how many there are until you use the rune that lets you see them
They outnumber the players
It’s terrifying
Just played infernal run
Holy shit that was bad
reef kelp
Is it possible to get all the weapon upgrades in one campaign run?
ornate basin
Yeah
reef kelp
You just have to get every single upgrade point then?
ornate basin
No they give you way more
noble moat
^
ornate basin
It really bothers me
reef kelp
Oh really?
Can you master all of them in one play through as well
I think that’s an achievement as well
noble moat
You can but some stuff can get tricky if you mess up too much
noble moat
You can master all weapons in multiple play throughs yes it idk achievement wise
reef kelp
Argent facility time
noble moat
That’s embarrassing I died twice at the jump for the lever in level 2
ornate basin
Powerups, bfgs, chainsaws and gauss cannons constantly spawning in
noble moat
After 180 hours handheld nightmare joycons a real controller just feels so weird
ornate basin
And it’s not too short to have fun
noble moat
I think I found the right sensitivity
cunning otter
I really like the little moments of empathy and humanity the Slayer shows at certain points
Especially at the end of VEGA core
He's a big fucking softie at heart
uncut trout
Can you master all of them in one play through as well
@reef kelp I did that on both of my play throughs. Just use mastery tokens on some of the harder mods to master and you will get it.
noble moat
They don’t exist
reef kelp
uncut trout
Sorry. I didn’t realize this was the 2016 chat. 
worldly robin
lol
sharp lantern
big lol
lethal fulcrum
any tips on beating doom on nightmare?
abstract isle
Multiplayer is good fun, I stand by it, Demons have downsides because they're all so powerful
each one is capable of one-shotting a player or burning them down in seconds, they can't be too op
ornate basin
I spent the day playing 2016 mp in order to revaluate it
It was more fun then I remembered
But all the problems I had with it
The spetres
Mines
Spawns
Camping the powerup spawn points
Loadouts
90% of the weapons and equipment being useless
The annoying rocket launcher spam
Etc
clever dew
I done the max rank thing for Doom 2016 MP on Steam. A cheater every 5 games isn't too nice and well, at least they updated the MP to not be as "meh" as it was on release. Maybe I should do the max rank thing again on PS4 to finish 100% on trophies but I remember I have no PS+ sub anymore, oh well.
clever dew
Rocket launcher got nerfed in an update, like splash damage got reduced so much you need to do direct hits. Funny enough, grenades are still the same since launch
With high splash damage and radius so people (like me) spam those a lot
ornate basin
Forgettable but average
clever dew
The kinetic mines were the worst thing ever
It's just grenades but they home in on you and it's just why
ornate basin
every time I see a mine I want to throw myself off a cliff
clever dew
And you know now that you mentioned the spectre, now I know why I always do so well with it than other demons. The spectre is just ridiculously powerful, if not OP
You can go invisible, you run fast, you charge fast and get one hit kills, no need to bite people's heads off when you got a "press alt fire to get insta kill"
Like Doom 2016's MP is okay enough but these problems just hurt the experience and on PC these days, not many people play it. Not sure on console, maybe a little more?
ornate basin
Half the gamemodes are bad
25% are fine
Then the last 25% are genuinely fun
clever dew
Most people just play TDM and maybe some Domination. Warpath is fun and but everyone spams grenades to everyone trying to capture it that the tug of war can be frustrating
But well, it's better than something like that eyeball CTF kind game, Infernal Run I think it's called?
ornate basin
Bad: infernal run, sector, clan arena
Fine: warpath, domination, TDM
Fun: soul harvest and ice tag
clever dew
Everyone spams grenades so I join the spam too because trying to stay alive in the zone is hell (no pun intended)
ornate basin
Soul harvest is objectively the best mode
worldly robin
soul harvest i hate cuz i dont get kills there and technically 80% of the time i get wrecked by demon players
clever dew
I don't mind Soul Harvest, just kind of wish the demon players were still on a time limit so one player doesn't hog being the demon the whole time. I am thinking if who can play the demon is randomized it would be a lot more interesting so it isn't just stomping for whoever got the spectre chosen
Like me
ornate basin
In soul harvest there is a demon rune active the whole time and power weapons and powerups spawn constantly it’s the only mode that’s really chaotic and balls to the walls and I love it
abstract isle
Mines you can shoot, all demons generate demon runes so you can see them, spawn camping powerups is obviously gonna happen with set spawn locations, that's just a thing
and yeah not all the loadouts are effective
ornate basin
Oh really
abstract isle
Even then you can hear the spectre
ornate basin
The only way you can see mines to shoot them is if you have the scout thing on
If you don’t it’s basically rng wether you die or not
abstract isle
or you look, they're not invis, unless they're placed around a corner they're easy to shoot
ornate basin
They don’t put them in easy to find places and constantly looking around for mines isn’t fun
That’s the problem they make the game less fun
abstract isle
And I stick up for sector, it's a more tdm styled domination that plays around with the whole map
ornate basin
Same with spectre
It’s not fun to fight against a spectre
That’s the core problem with 2016 mp it has roadblocks that prevent you from having fun
abstract isle
well if spectre is a pain, equip demon runes and fight spectre from behind, like all fps, there are times when things aren't fun, these are balanced when it is fun
ornate basin
Let’s look at infernal run
You play for on average about a minute before someone scores
Then the game stops and resets
You can’t play like that that’s why that game mode sucks
abstract isle
It's not the best game mode, it's definitely one of my worst
ornate basin
And for the spectre thing I don’t want to be forced to use the demon tracker rune but you are or else you get fucked by them
Look man you can like 2016 mp but you have to admit it has problems like all mps and this one has a lot of problems
clever dew
The spectre is not balanced at all man
There's no other way to go around it, compared to other demons it's just ridiculously effective
ornate basin
It hitboxes are broken
abstract isle
Oh yeah it has problems but the whole point of demon runes is they're power ups, the spectre may be one of the most broken demons but it can be killed
clever dew
I die so quickly as demons like the Revenant and Baron even, but Spectre? Destroying
The spectre has good health and he isn't a huge target like the Baron and Mancubus, he also isn't slow so there's that too
abstract isle
Then again there is skill in how to play demons, a good demon player getting rune can be hell for the enemy team, but the game does encourage you to work together and pick runes to counter
ornate basin
I gave this game a try again
It was more fun then I remembered
But it’s still a below average experience
And I don’t think I will ever play it again
It’s bland and forgettable
Bye dudes
clever dew
Doom 2016 MP isn't very...skillful to play last time I checked
abstract isle
That's up to you but I still love it
clever dew
Then again, PC gets me dudes with super fast rapid fire single shotties
abstract isle
the skill ceiling isn't high but there is some skill involved
ornate basin
You can like it all you want
abstract isle
If it had some support and balancing changes it would be much better, I do agree with you there
ornate basin
It’s your opinion
abstract isle
relative to some demons the spectre is broken as hell
clever dew
Well it did got support for sure, just think a lot of what is here now could have been here since launch
I still can't believe there was paid DLC and it's just MP maps and cosmetics I never use or care for
ornate basin
For all of its faults and failures
The static rifle is awesome
abstract isle
It had support later but not enough to keep a large player base, it's forced me to play in other regions where there are more active players
clever dew
RIP everyone who lives in Asia
clever dew
Yeah, basically. Like US and EU is active enough, but outside of that, you basically got no one playing anywhere else
abstract isle
Yup, that's where the skill comes in, I had to play with a bit of latency, I enjoy playing mp and while parts of it are broken it holds up, at least as a casual fps experience
Personally I'd like to see it have continued support, maybe new game modes and changes to existing ones but eternal and battlemode are the main focus now
arctic shard
yeah its pretty sad that doom 2016 mp is pretty dead outside eu and us and eternal has only battlemode
however, even if we have a game in eu, there is always a high chance that there is a cheater in our game and we have no way to report them
the best thing i can do is to mesmerise some of their names and once i see them, quit immediately, no matter winning or losing. its pointless to play on
i have no idea why they just dont implement such simple things as report or commend buttons
but in eternal, they decide to go with shady stuff ring-0 denuvo
elder meadow
well, at least they removed denuvo anti-cheat in a later update
i think what would've helped is having stuff like being able to vote to kick players off a match
because when developers are unwilling to do anything about cheaters, at least players would have that option
elder meadow
Tbh... what if id could launch Doom MP as a free to play game?
It could easily gain back the popularity...
Looks great, runs great, polished and balanced.
Only thing that remains is to add an anti-cheat.
grand sun
Quake champions is free to play, but it suffers the same problems with playerbase so it won't help. And playing with the same people doesn't make it bad game, I'm having a lot of fun in it
elder meadow
Quake plays like ass tho.
On top of that it already earned a horrible reputation because of the game's launch.
fossil island
Doom 2016 MP > Quake Champions (imo)
elder meadow
^
Quake has more depth. But in it's current state it just does not feel right to play.
I cannot play more than 3 games in a row of Quake before i get bored or tired.
Where as with Unreal Tournament or Doom MP i can play like 10 in a row, despite both games being much more intense.
arctic shard
quake championship is still not polished und optimised enough for stable mp imo.
vast pawn
Is Champions meant? Was pretty meh to me
arctic shard
i meant champion
vast pawn
Ye nah, good old Q3A
fossil island
All the talk about Doom 2016 MP makes me wanna play it again 
https://i.imgur.com/tZj1fOW.png
atomic linden
@fossil island good luck shes pretty dead. and cheaters lol
fossil island
I hate cheaters. 
elder meadow
team fortress be like
kindred cradle
how good will my pc run doom i have 1050 2gb and i3 8100 and 8gb ram
fossil island
Imagine being a developer at ID. You encounter a cheater and just banhammer him out of your game
kindred cradle
how good will my pc run doom i have 1050 2gb and i3 8100 and 8gb ram ??
fossil island
kindred cradle
ty
arctic shard
@kindred cradle i think your pc can run doom pretty good
kindred cradle
oh ok
fossil island
2GB VRAM is the minimum requirement. Cant say how good but you can run it for sure.
arctic shard
not sure about max settings though
kindred cradle
medium ??
arctic shard
doom 2016 is decently optimised, so yes
fossil island
btw. even on lower settings the game does still look pretty good
fossil island
And try running the game in Vulkan Mode. Not all of the non-ti 1050's support vulkan, but maybe your lucky. Could squeeze out a little bit more FPS
With my card it gave me around +20FPS compared to OpenGL Mode
elder meadow
2016 runs like complete balls for me on Vulkan and I can play Eternal at like 200+ frames lol
elder meadow
@kindred cradle 60 FPS at 900P should be doable.
Open GL usually works slightly better than Vulkan on Pascal cards.
But ofc feel free to try them both.
velvet spoke
How good would DOOM 2016 run on my school laptop? (Intel Pentium 4 core 2.1ghz CPU w/ video on chip and 2 gb of ram)
elder meadow
@velvet spoke It will not.
elder meadow
You cannot overclock that laptop.
And it would not help if you could.
fossil island
You can run Classic Doom's or maybe Doom 3 with luck...
arctic shard
How good would DOOM 2016 run on my school laptop? (Intel Pentium 4 core 2.1ghz CPU w/ video on chip and 2 gb of ram)
@velvet spoke oh pentium 4. it has been a while 🙂
velvet spoke
yup
arctic shard
im pretty sure the game wont run smoothly. but hey what do u lose? try it and keep us up to date
velvet spoke
i tried it and it wont even run cuz the school blocked it so
velvet spoke
well, i am at home and i have it through steam but they blocked steam
arctic shard
understood what u mean
arctic shard
any chance that u can buy a gaming pc/laptop?
instead of doing ur stuff on school laptop?
elder meadow
Never buy a gaming laptop unless you are prepared to drop 3 grands on it.
noble moat
^
velvet spoke
im gonna buy a $2000 pc and im building it
noble moat
That should do it
elder meadow
The mid price options will always overheat your components and heavily limit your gaming performance.
arctic shard
well, i did buy an alienware 4 yrs ago
elder meadow
No exceptions. They will all suck.
velvet spoke
its gonna have a geforce RTX 2070 super (i can buy it used for $300) and a AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3rd gen processor
velvet spoke
oof
well i dont think im gonna get enough money for it this year
im 15 so i cant get a job yet
elder meadow
If you really need to have a working PC right now, i suggest finding an RX580 for 100$
Once the next gen cards arrive in September both from Nvidia and AMD, current cards will be worthless.
velvet spoke
i did save up $500, but i put it in the stock market for United Airlines
arctic shard
hmmm
velvet spoke
if i sell now i'll have $1000
im pretty sure in 6 months though it can go up even more
velvet spoke
6 months ago it was at $90, then i bought it at $21, but right now it's at $38
it went super far down because of the virus
if i wait till it gets back up to $90 though, i will have enough for my dream computer
arctic shard
hope it works out for you though
velvet spoke
thank you, i will come back here if things work out
arctic shard
robbing a bank or insurance fraud is still viable 🙂
velvet spoke
eh
arctic shard
or printing money
velvet spoke
well i mean it works but i'd prefer a more legal ways to get money
velvet spoke
oh ok, im gonna keep it doom 2016
so VEGA has 4 absolute 0 cooling systems to cool down the processor with the heat of 1.2 megakelvins
that's one hell of a computer
1.2 megakelvins = 2159540.33 degrees fahrenhiet
the surface of the sun is 10,000 degrees fahrenhiet
that means VEGA can run DOOM 2016 in 4K max settings at over 10,000 frames per second without using 1% of the cpu power
elder meadow
he overcloaks with them
velvet spoke
well yeah, VEGA has 4 absolute zero cooling systems
elder meadow
in the next doom game they should make an even more powerful vega
and call it nvidia
velvet spoke
lmao yes
arctic shard
with the lore in eternal, i think vega can run on its own without the cooling system
velvet spoke
it's gonna use an nvidia titan with the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X 64-Core 7.9 GHz cpu
arctic shard
and haydn only tries to make it more complicated in order to hide their true identities
elder meadow
yea like what the fuck is hayden?
velvet spoke
he's a scientist that built a robot for his body
velvet spoke
well he was a human first but he wanted to live forever
so he just built himself a body
elder meadow
and also if the guns the slayer uses cant do anything at alll to hayden
how did he got broken in eternal
what did it
velvet spoke
i havent played eternal yet except for the level Hell on Earth
elder meadow
vega is the father of what?
arctic shard
oh...sry
it seems someone havent played eternal yet, so i delete my comments for spoiler
elder meadow
because you said angel race?
arctic shard
the mykr race is the correct term
elder meadow
i know
velvet spoke
its ok its ok
arctic shard
how do i put spoiler in discord?
velvet spoke
are you on pc or mobile?
arctic shard
pc
noble moat
|| this before and after the message
velvet spoke
yes like that
elder meadow
oh
arctic shard
||at the end, vega asks whether hes the father (kind of supreme being of mykr race) and haydn doesnt answer. it sounds like a hint that vega is connected to mykr race||
elder meadow
||discord is stupid||
fossil island
arctic shard
||also how fast vega integrates itself to the mykr grid, its very suspicious||
elder meadow
oh yea
||at the end, vega asks whether hes the father (kind of supreme being of mykr race) and haydn doesnt answer. it sounds like a hint that vega is connected to mykr race||
@arctic shard in what level he said that?
fossil island
||It would also make sense why humans need so much cooling power to keep him on low temps but its no problem for a advanced race like the maykr||
arctic shard
||in the level before fighting the final boss||
elder meadow
ok i will try to listen more carefully
arctic shard
||it is in mykr home world||
velvet spoke
i liked Hell on Earth
arctic shard
||perhaps u were distracted by haydn when he says, the longer the icon of sins stays on earth, the stronger it becomes||
fossil island
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-M_cDAWDXyk/maxresdefault.jpg
Easter Egg when you backup VEGA in 2016
elder meadow
||perhaps u were distracted by haydn when he says, the longer the icon of sins stays on earth, the stronger it becomes||
@arctic shard yea i remember this line
arctic shard
in the entire game, that haydn's quote ends up being the most iconic for me =))
velvet spoke
i dont remember that easter egg
elder meadow
what is the last quote?
fossil island
you only see it for a splitsecond @velvet spoke
flint dune
Wouldn’t it make sense to talk about Eternal spoilers in #doom-eternal?
velvet spoke
ahh ok
arctic shard
we just accidentally talk about eternal lore
velvet spoke
i've played Doom 1993, Doom 2, Final Doom, and Doom 2016
flint dune
Ah, all good. I get off topic sometimes too. It’s just that you’re still risking to spoil something in the game for people who haven’t beaten Eternal by talking here
elder meadow
i only played 2016 and eternal
fossil island
Its still in the context of Doom 2016, but keep in mind this is still a Doom 2016 Channel :)
velvet spoke
ok ok 😄
arctic shard
i haved played doom 2 to eternal
however, i still end up liking doom 3, despite its "difference"
i still cant endure the arena style in doom 2016 and eternal
flint dune
Same here. 2016 took some of those horror elements and I think it fit pretty well
velvet spoke
doom 3 wasn't bad, it just didnt fit in for a doom game
arctic shard
on its own, doom 3 is a very good game
ornate basin
The second half of 3 was very much a doom game
arctic shard
but in doom family, its an outcast
velvet spoke
the black sheep in the family
elder meadow
tbh in doom eternal they have done so many improvements over 2016 but then they had to make it worse by limiting the amo
flint dune
Eh people disagree. Doom 1 and 2 were called “scary” back in the day and it was planned to be more horror-based. John Carmack just wanted 3 to be what he originally planned for the classic games.
I guess. that’s what I’ve heard at least
tbh in doom eternal they have done so many improvements over 2016 but then they had to make it worse by limiting the amo
@elder meadow Meh. I think the ammo caps are fine. They could be a little larger I agree.
arctic shard
i dont think doom 1 and 2 scary. but perhaps doom 3 went with the flow at that time.
tbh, doom 3 graphics was revolutionary for me
it was 2005 and when i saw doom 3, i loved the game immediately
i dont like many changes in eternal, esp. the chainsaw and dash mechanics
elder meadow
yea but from 60 shotgun shells to 24 it kinda sucks
flint dune
Doom 2016 came out not too long after I got into the franchise. Perfect timing tbh
elder meadow
and rune savagery does not speed up chainsaw which is very anoying
velvet spoke
doom 2016 and doom eternal have really different ways of using the chainsaw
flint dune
@elder meadow I’ll agree there. Chainsaw animations should be sped up with that rune
elder meadow
yea it just takes so long
noble moat
Then there is me who purposefully doesn’t upgrade ammo in 2016 because I feel its too much
arctic shard
and what do they think when they constantly put tutorial in eternal
it breaks the game flow 😐
elder meadow
yea
flint dune
Yes. I went back to 2016 after beating Eternal multiple times. I forgot that I had to manually take out the chainsaw and press R2 to use it instead of Square
velvet spoke
in the beginning of doom 16 i upgrade my ammo but after the second upgrade im good
elder meadow
the oposite
flint dune
I disagree. He has a lot of emotion conveyed through small cutscenes
elder meadow
he at least shows a little bit of his face in eternal
arctic shard
yeah "face"
velvet spoke
lmao
arctic shard
=)) logik
velvet spoke
during the cutscenes
elder meadow
doctor hayden:you need to remove each lens individually, carefully relese the hinches
doomguy:fuck it lets punch this shit!
fossil island
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWfEBO4DfF4
How the chainsaw in 2016 felt like with all the ammo upgrades...
arctic shard
||in eternal, besides haydn quotes, the scene when doom guy launches himself from mars is another mesmerisign scene||
its just so funny when he does that
elder meadow
you mean the button spam?
noble moat
I never knew chainsaw got sped up with savagery and it’s amazing
arctic shard
||no i mean the one he catapults himself from space, during the space level||
elder meadow
oh that thing
flint dune
His character is the same way in Eternal, but there’s less character moments because the story is so focused on spitting exposition at you. Not to say the story is bad. It’s just a bit convoluted and overbearing at times
velvet spoke
i went so fast in doom 16 when i had Haste and the blood fueled rune
i was like sonic
arctic shard
i still prefer my theory: he has sex
velvet spoke
lmao
velvet spoke
yeah, if theres a haste nearby, then i would glory kill a demon with the Blood Fueled rune, and you go really fast
its really fun
i also have savegry so i could glory kill faster
my rune setup is savegry, blood fueled, and the one where you can glory kill from further away
i gtg for 20 minutes bye
errant bloom
So him decaptating someone becoming a weapon or shooting hole in mars is not rage
Ok buddy
elder meadow
he didn't shoot a hole into mars out of rage, it was just the most convenient method to get inside the core of mars
errant bloom
Observe
arctic shard
hi buddy, i already observe. what should i do now?
velvet spoke
h
im trying to max out achievements for DOOM 2016, and the rest are all in multiplayer, but the only time i can play is at night so all the servers are empty
arctic shard
where are u?
in asia, there is no1 playing doom anymore
in eu or us there are still many ppl playing it
velvet spoke
im in the us, but at night the servers are empty
another thing to consider is that im on xbox, not pc for it
arctic shard
as far as i know there is no cross platform mp
if u play on pc, its more likely that u can find a match
velvet spoke
on xbox, nobody really plays though
fossil island
https://i.imgur.com/auSdrmY.png
Those are the numbers on PC atleast. Dunno how much of them actually playing the multiplayer part
velvet spoke
the multiplayer on pc is doing okay, but xbox live it's empty
halcyon flume
Multiplayer on switch is bad. Latency is an issue. There's like maybe one game looking for players at a time and there is no room for newbies
IE, you gonna die alot
noble moat
?
It’s definitely your internet, doom on switch is famous for how buttery smooth the online play is
(Assuming you find a match)
halcyon flume
I'd assume my latency is because I'm west coast and there's like one worldwide game available
It is almost a shame I can't uninstall the multiplayer mode to save on memory space...
noble moat
Probably, I only managed to play for roughly 2 weeks with online trials and it was beyond smooth for me.
Also I agree would have been nice if it was a separate download
Since I only played it twice it’s easily at least 5gb of memory for the multiplayer
halcyon flume
I guess. Idk. I want to like the multiplayer because it reminds me of Unreal tournament but the maps are all too crowded and everyone is too beefy
Also not a big fan of the progression system
Everything else is cool. I guess
soft crest
personally I liked how you were constantly getting stuff
halcyon flume
You... should just have all the stuff.
soft crest
not a fan of shops
I think if you had all what would really be the point of it, I like the progression
soft crest
yeah that was annoying but you get them pretty fast
Im not a fan of the different control scheme (pc) and crosshairs
noble moat
Yeah you level up absurdly fast
halcyon flume
Not if you don't kill anyone lol
soft crest
I liked it, dont want to grind 10 games for a piece of armor I dont even want
noble moat
Gotta get gud (again I mean this in the literal sense)
uncut trout
How long does it take to get all multiplayer stuff from scratch?
noble moat
Idk, I only played it for like 2 weeks maybe less than 10 hours total and I was “prestige” 3
Out of 10
soft crest
Im somewhere around half, but cant tell how much I played. I think about 15-20 hours
noble moat
You can use a rune that gives a bonus 100exp per kill which is nice
soft crest
but I didnt pay attention much to time and my stats cant help cuz snapmap, sp and all that
uncut trout
Do you get new items even while being prestige 9 or is progressing to that point useless?
soft crest
you constantly get new items
elder meadow
@uncut trout You get all gameplay items by level 50.
soft crest
^^
halcyon flume
Yup. I bought doom 64 and 2016 and.. I actually think I like 64 more.
elder meadow
I still do not get how people can like Doom 64.
halcyon flume
2016 is great but the damn soundtrack from 64 is just creepy
elder meadow
For me the game got unbearable after like level 6
Because it is the same shit... for 32 levels.
Search for buttons then search for the doors that the buttons open.
For 32 fucking levels.
halcyon flume
Lol fair enough
Sometimes you had to find the button for the secret key to hidden levels and I enjoy going for the secrets I guess
Mind, the retro 2016 levels are fantastic
I was so shocked when I found one @.@
noble moat
Doom 2016> 3> 1> 2
noble moat
When I think classic doom I think 6min tops a level.
Doom 2 says nah here’s 15min ones
I have yet to play final, 64, or eternal so can’t rate them
elder meadow
2016 > Eternal > 3 > 1 > 2 > 64
soft crest
you preffer 3 to the classics?
uncut trout
I don’t have much of an interest in classic doom bc keycard hunting sounds kinda boring
noble moat
3 is a master piece
halcyon flume
I actually liked doom 3 too
elder meadow
Yes, mainly because of technological improvements which i do count in when judging.
halcyon flume
Even without the duct tape mod
noble moat
However 2016 is the speed power fantasy I crave
soft crest
I want to try it, but I have yet to finish doom 1 and 2
elder meadow
Yes i agree that Doom 3 was too different from general gameplay approach, but it did improve on almost every other aspect.
noble moat
I hate how doom 2016 and 3 take a while to get good
elder meadow
As much as the classics were groundbreaking at the time, they are just way too outdated to compete with any more modern game.
soft crest
if I will try it I think ill go for the original release
noble moat
Doom 3 takes maybe 2hours to start to get super good.
Doom 2016 takes about 4-5 levels until Kadingir sanctum
elder meadow
I think Doom 2016 gets good at Argent Tower.
soft crest
to me 2016 became good on foundry
noble moat
After beating 2016 16 times on nightmare anything under Kadingir feels so slow and easy
uncut trout
Xbox does not have og doom 3 so I would be stuck with BFG
elder meadow
It has at least one challenging fight where you do not have BFG nor Gauss. Which arguably makes it the hardest fight in the game since you have absolutely no way of cheating out of it.
noble moat
BFG is perfectly fine
soft crest
I can agree on that @noble moat
noble moat
Just set your brightness to zero first. Fov to 100 and don’t use flashlight with any gun out except pistol
soft crest
bfg lets you cheat on so many encounters and the munition is so often given that there isnt a reason not to
ahh you meant bfg edition
uncut trout
Does BFG edition change demon placement or level layout at all? Are the only changes with the flashlight, brightness, and ammo count?
elder meadow
Yes, but i believe only in Resurrection of Evil.
Some content in RoE gets cut. And Maledict fight is made even easier.
noble moat
Fight is still decently hard
At least it feels like a proper boss fight as opposed to every other boss fight
elder meadow
Tbh no, it is pathetically easy. Even without the Artifact.
The best fight is the Invulnerability Hunter.
That fight is great. It is challenging and dynamic.
noble moat
With the 4 glowing piller things?
elder meadow
Yes.
noble moat
Idk, that just felt like run in a circle and shoot the pillars
elder meadow
While avoiding all the shit that he throws at you..
Imo all the Hunter boss fights were much better than all others.
Maledict in vanilla Doom 3 shoots lost souls.
Maledict in BFG Edition shoots regular fireballs.
soft crest
why would they do such sinnery
elder meadow
The arena where you fight him is also heavily downgraded in BFG Edition.
noble moat
Still a better fight than spider master mind =/
soft crest
which one? 1 or 2016
elder meadow
2016 MM can be easily fixed tbh.
Remove her brain channel attack and remove the ammo and health drops from her during the fight.
soft crest
I liked that boss, how you slowly decimate it is such a great feeling. And that troll with no second faze... I loved it
hell guards were better tho, my least favorite prolly was cyberdemon
noble moat
Hellguards were great
noble moat
I just wish it was a tiny bit less pronounced thst it was going to be a boss fight
elder meadow
shame we didn't hear more about these slugs
noble moat
Cyberdemon was still pretty easy
soft crest
I think hellguards were set up well enough, but that cant be said about spider mastermind
noble moat
Spider was like. BOOM spider
Guards were, well, guarding the crucible
I liked the call back of the cyberdemon and spider, cyberdemon was set up better tho
soft crest
spider was just thrown in there, you dont defeat olivia for a purpose
blissful imp
I need to redownload this game
soft crest
yeah, I didnt know anything about Doom before playing 2016 so cant speak for that, but the second phase was a nice twist too
that was the moment I realized how much I love the game
blissful imp
Doom2=>Doom1=>Doom3=>Doom2016=>Doom64
The buying order is Fucked up
elder meadow
its not fucked up for one reason
in doom you should screw the story and slay demons
blissful imp
Yeah
But Doom 3 was originaly my first doom
And then no money so Doom 2
My Favorite one is 2016
elder meadow
me to
soft crest
I agree, Doom is best when you ignore everything else and just slay
elder meadow
yea its a very relaxing game
blissful imp
I mean you can play doom 1/2/64 without the context
soft crest
you can play any doom without context
elder meadow
yea
blissful imp
2016 yes
But Eternal no
soft crest
why not
soft crest
I love the story in eternal ngl
elder meadow
btw why if you hover the mouse over a window of doom 2016 it says DOOMx64?
soft crest
64bit maybe?
elder meadow
maybe
its kinda funny because there is doom 64
and this one also says the number 64
howdy fellow slayers
arctic shard
pretty well, and u fellow slayer?
halcyon flume
Well they are both referring to 64 bit
64 bit operating system, and 64 bit console
worldly robin
who here plays snapmap
soft crest
snapmap is great, but I got so frustrated with my second map Idont think I ever want to see it again
worldly robin
can i try it
soft crest
nah its not online. But my only map I published, Zero: The First Encounter was pretty well received
worldly robin
hmm
dm me the code and i have a map for people to try out
its the full version of my previous map, so all the plays and votes are 0
soft crest
you want the code? Okay, Ill send it later today. But you can search by words too no?
worldly robin
yeah
soft crest
surprisingly it got quite popular for how little effort I made to advertise it
worldly robin
lol
soft crest
like I shared it only once on this discord and that was pretty much it, got very lucky
worldly robin
dm me the name / code
soft crest
Zero: The First Encounter, thats how its called. And its by LugyD1xd_ONE (me)
worldly robin
ok
soft crest
dm me any of yours maps, Im curious to see what you got
lethal fulcrum
QUICK which one do i upgrade?! health, armor, or ammo? im on nightmare btw
elder meadow
that depends
velvet spoke
which level are you on
elder meadow
how good you are?
noble moat
^
lethal fulcrum
i just got the double jump boots
velvet spoke
health
elder meadow
i personally very good so i always max ammo then health then armoor
noble moat
Personally I get ammo there
velvet spoke
are you going for all secrets?
lethal fulcrum
cause i got three in ammo, two in health and armor
noble moat
If you are really good you would benefit more from the higher ammo count vs health
velvet spoke
get another in health
lethal fulcrum
ok thanks!
velvet spoke
np
elder meadow
also getting more ammo can avoid dangerous trips to resupply so it can equal health in a way
but i guess it's easier for first playthrough to have more health to have a wider error marging to play in
blissful imp
I'm redownloading the game
iron osprey
2016 gives you so much ammo that I never found a need to upgrade it
Armor is pretty rare so usually go all health -> armor -> ammo
velvet spoke
i didn't like how 2016 gave me so much ammo because i just stuck to the super shotgun and the rocket launcher. i never used any other weapon
noble moat
You using more than 2 guns?
I play with no ammo upgrades and I never truly run out of ammo
velvet spoke
there's always the chainsaw
noble moat
*on nightmare as well
velvet spoke
i play on ultra violence
noble moat
That is perfectly fine. If you ever do get the time to get better
Being really good at UV+ feels very satisfying
pliant mauve
I'm running through doom 16 on UV
Its a lil bit easier than UN
Still a bit of a challenge though
noble moat
Yeah UV is the “intended” way to play doom
Meaning it’s hard, but gives you a few breathers if you make mistakes. Once you master the doom dance it will feel super satisfying
pliant mauve
Yep. Then its just UN to contend
noble moat
Yeah I feel you
To do UN you have to constantly practice Nightmare with no major breaks
pliant mauve
Yeah
And get used to the struggle
Rn i should practice until UV Gets too essy
Easy
Ive done hmp play through
noble moat
Once you can do nightmare Vega processing Core 5+ times in a row without a single death Is probably when you are more or less prepared
Without using BFG, or powerups in that level
noble moat
In terms of difficulty
Too young to die -> hurt me plenty is a small jump
From HMP-> UV is a decent sized jump
And UV-> nightmare is a massive jump
In terms of damage you take, and how aggressive the enemies get
noble moat
I suggest on UV you replay
Kadingir Sanctum
Necropolis
Vega Central Processing
Those are I’d say the 3 major types of levels to help you prepare
Once you beat the campaign of course
pliant mauve
Ok
noble moat
Vega being definitely the hardest of the 3
pliant mauve
So its basically just training and preparing yourself
noble moat
Necropolis is a very good one because it’s tons of mini closed up arena fights
It helps you learn to quickly prioritize certain demons
Kadingir is also tons of arena fights but much more open
And then Vega is huge arena fights, but much much more demons and much stronger ones
What runes do you normally play with?/ equipment
noble moat
If dying a lot is a problem I suggest Saving throw
Once you get good enough to not die a lot replacing it with a different rune is better
Also Equipment rune + siphon grenades gives you armor
pliant mauve
On easier difficulties i ran an infinite ammo build
But ik that only works if i have shield
I might've grabbed mobility too
Allows me to move around better then temporary speed boost helps as well
I guess its an rng build
noble moat
I highly suggest not using infinite ammo
It may have just been me, but I didn’t realize how little I actually swapped weapons when I had a high ammo count
pliant mauve
I see
noble moat
And weapon swapping constantly is actually super important
Certain guns especially when swapping do wonders. And after that you need to perfect Artificial Gauss Dash
gusty onyx
I just infinite ammo'd the strongest guns in the game (mainly gauss canon).
never touched saving throw (considered it useless, with how little it gives) or anything
pliant mauve
Between gauss and bfg cannons you csn take down the biggest npcs in moments i think
Seen it done in roughly 60 to 120 seconds
Mostly when fighting mastermind or the other 2 bosses before them
noble moat
If you want to cheese you could easily beat the game with pretty much just gauss rpg and BFG
But I don’t find that satisfying at all
noble moat
I do
nightmare
Switch
No BFG
No certain runes
No double ssg
No siege
No powerups
No holo
No ammo upgrade
This is how I play
pliant mauve
Nice
noble moat
Specifically for runes I use
Savagery
Air mobility
Equipment rune
noble moat
Savegry speeds up GK but also speeds up chainsaw
pliant mauve
True
noble moat
Since I don’t upgrade ammo I actually need to chainsaw so the faster the better
Equipment rune mastered makes siphon grenades give me armor and health
And air mobility is amazing with gauss dashing
noble moat
Tbh it’s fine fuel wise, ammo is more than abundant on the floors but also once you designate certain weapons for certain demons running out is pretty hard
Also most arena fights have fuel in or after them
noble moat
Yeah, good thing is cyber drops ammo itself
noble moat
Yeah, pretty much don’t get hit by cyberdemon tho. Most of its attacks are easy to avoid
pliant mauve
True
noble moat
Especially with gauss dashing
pliant mauve
But they do make close calls
halcyon flume
Every switch multiplayer match is the same six players lol
I'm done with this
The burst rifle also seems like trash
noble moat
Use HAR and RPG
soft crest
I just do plasma and rocket
halcyon flume
I'm over multiplayer honestly
The same guys that were playing this morning are playing tonight and I'm tired of losing
flint dune
It’s not something to really be playing in 2020. Very few players play it. Takes an hour to get in a match or you just ^, end up with the same players
halcyon flume
Silly me thinking a sale and the upcoming Eternal would have people playing.
soft crest
it was very much active around eternal launch
noble moat
I know exactly who he is talking about too
soft crest
but not free for all modes, team modes
noble moat
It’s a group of slayer rank users with mics
I fought them like 8 times during my online trials. A real pain when I’m stuck with other switch users =/
flint dune
So they just dominate the MP? That sucks
noble moat
No disrespect to switch users ( since I am one) but they are bad at online fps games
I mean I was good enough to beat them basically solo a few times, but man switch players are bad
halcyon flume
Well, they should feel accomplished for... pushing people out of multiplayer
But I'm done. I've tried to play this.
soft crest
pretty much a Quake Champions situation, they want new players but they are the reason new players get turned off
flint dune
Just stick with the campaign when it comes to Doom games. Unless they can somehow turn around Battlemode...
soft crest
I dunno on pc I had a good time in recent time and Im by no means a great player
noble moat
Hey I actually found the MP enjoyable
flint dune
Yeah 2016’s MP was fun for me, despite being a little generic. I never found it something to really focus on though. Campaign is where it’s at
soft crest
some of the maps are gorgeous thos
noble moat
Man I loved the map designes
halcyon flume
I got about halfway through the campaign, got bored, jumped to multiplayer, got stomped and uninstalled
flint dune
Yeah sorry I was one of those Specter mains xd
noble moat
I was a Rev main. Minimum 10 kills per transformation
soft crest
I mained harvester
flint dune
@halcyon flume Doom 2016’s campaign does get a bit stale near the end of the game. By then you’ve seen everything the game has to offer. Too bad all the bosses were smushed near the end. Eternal is so much more replayable imo
noble moat
I almost have my pro controller sensitivity down, I can’t wait to return to my formal glory
Funny enough I’m having a harder time with a real controller vs the joycons
halcyon flume
Joysticks as a whole feel not so great compared to keyboard
noble moat
No I’m damn good at fps games with joysticks
I beat doom nightmare 16 times with joycons
Twice deathless
flint dune
Very nice
noble moat
It’s just joycons are a much different feel and different stick and button sizes
Compared to a real controller
Not to mention buttons are above the right stick and below the left stick
On a real controller buttons are diagonal to the sticks
flint dune
Yeah. I tried to play on switch once when my cousin let me borrow it. Felt really weird to me. Takes adjustment for any new set of controls.
noble moat
Oh for sure.
It’s a whole new hand placement
Especially for a game like doom
I say it took me 3 nightmare runs before I truly got used to the cons
The biggest difference rn is sensitivity
Joycons are small sticks. So much less stick movement, so you have to crank sensitivity up especially for doom
But now with a controller sticks are much longer, much further faster travel
So I have to turn sensitivity down to reach the same speed
slim eagle
@halcyon flume lmk if you want some help in 2016 multiplayer. I am using the PC version
Add me on steam..
Oh, nm, sounds like you are on switch,, rip.
reef kelp
How far is kadingr sanctum into the campaign?
noble moat
Level 6
blissful imp
Level 5 ?
noble moat
I just said what level it is =/
Mars level 1
Level2
Foundry level 3
Level 4
Argent tower level 5
Kadingir level 6
blissful imp
Hmm
supple finch
6/13
reef kelp
Oh ok
Argent tower was fun heheh
Especially the bit near the end with the revenants and mancubi
wary thistle
So what happened to the dimensions in the DOOM 2016 Multiplayer that where not in DOOM Eternal?
blissful imp
Dead
fallen badge
How u get good on ps4?
worldly robin
by getting gud
blissful imp
Point and Click
worldly robin
ez
fallen badge
:0
fallen badge
Anyone wanna play doom 2016 ps4 snap nap?
reef kelp
I’m on Xbox 
worldly robin
im on pc
red flume
I don't want to ruin the rest of the game but Kadingir Sanctum is the best FPS level of the decade.
not even exaggerating that is my actual, literal, serious opinion.
elder meadow
In my opinion the most fun level is the one after lazarus labs
idk why i like it so much
velvet spoke
i loved the level VEGA Processesing
analog cradle
Curious to know - Does anyone even still play DOOM 2016 multiplayer?
velvet spoke
@analog cradle I do, though it's a bit hard to find matches now
analog cradle
Mm, just went back to 2016 after spamming Doom Eternal and fancying some good ol' easy gameplay.. Went to see if anyone was still playing Multiplayer and got nothing
velvet spoke
servers are dead at night
analog cradle
Excuse you
6:39am? Prime gaming hour
reef kelp
I wish doom 2016 had dashes
analog cradle
I wish it wasn't so piss-easy
You go in, get an OP shotgun and the first level is so simple ;;
I mean, I get that it's to ease you into the game
But c'monnn
Doom Eternal is like
It FEELS like Hell
reef kelp
Yeah but the explosive shot though 🥴 🍆 💦 💦
abstract isle
Your multiplayer activity depends on your region but heaps of people still play (just not in Asia-pacific 😢 )
velvet spoke
unpixelled depends on the platform and the time
elder meadow
@red flume Played Vega Central Processing yet?
red flume
many times
noble moat
That’s the level I use to practice my skill
nightmare
Switch
No BFG
No certain runes
No double ssg
No siege
No powerups
No holo
No ammo upgrades
This is how I play it, getting myself prepared for eternal
elder meadow
I doubt it will help you much.
Eternal has it's own rules. And the only way to learn them is to play that game.
noble moat
Of course
But step one to getting ready for a much harder sequel is to make the first as hard as possible
Even then I’m already ready. 2016 is quite easy =/
If anything the only thing that truly helps is the no ammo upgrade/ using chainsaw more
reef kelp
If you replay levels you can work on upgrading your runes/mastery
So yeah it’s possible to unlock them all in a campaign run
That’s not a glitch right?
noble moat
Indeed
scarlet gorgeBOT
Indeed!
red flume
What's the deal with the hologram? I don't think I've ever used it in 90 hours of play. I know it's broken as hell and (I think) does something funky with enemy AI but I've no idea what the fuss is about.
I always use regular 'nades btw. They're not amazing but I do think they're an underappreciated part of the 2016 arsenal.
noble moat
Anything that makes the enemies not attack me or makes the game easier is not fun
Imo
velvet spoke
I have been waiting in a doom 2016 multiplayer lobby for a while and I still can't find a match
velvet spoke
alright I'm gonna try that
noble moat
It’s the only way to find a lobby, it’s not like cod where it will auto connect you to a fuller lobby
velvet spoke
I don't play COD so idk
noble moat
Well it’s not like any multiplayer game that tosses you into a full lobby after awhile
noble moat
Father’s Day for one
velvet spoke
oh true
noble moat
People partying or are out. Especially around this time
velvet spoke
When doom 2016 was on Xbox gamepass though the lobbies were always full
So I think It might be that
noble moat
Well yeah more people had access to a “free game”
velvet spoke
yeah, but it's incredible how it went from always full lobbies to being the only one
noble moat
Likewise when switch had free online multiplayer was flying with lobbies, once it became paid few bought online
velvet spoke
I got a match
2 of them are max level I'm scared
And there's 4 people including me
velvet spoke
I'm teir 5 and I think max is 11
the lobby is pretty full now, idk why it was empty until now
noble moat
It’s random. Sometimes everyone quits 2-3 lobbies and join one all together
noble moat
On vega central processing I like to destroy every cooler right away for a super arena fight
velvet spoke
I play Vega processing for practice every day, and I do the same thing. I would destroy all of them at once and it would be so much fun when I can go berserk mode on all the demons
Killing a Baron or a mancubis in 1 punch is satisfying
autumn prism
This sadly wasn't the case in Australia
God damn regional locking
I really want to give 2016's multiplayer a chance but it's so dead where i live
Bots ain't gonna cut it for me
velvet spoke
@autumn prism You can change the region to North America or Europe or somewhere with high player counts. Sadly though, your ping will be very high
autumn prism
Lol I'm used to high ping
abstract isle
@velvet spoke what region and platform?
It's dead here on Australia PC so I play around midday so I can get in on the NA games, if you're up early or late enough you can get the EU games
And yeah max level is nothing to be afraid of usually, I'm max level and my gameplay is usually 50/50 but how well your team is overall is a big factor
velvet spoke
I play on xbox one and on North America servers
elder meadow
Because Australians don't need to pretend to shoot up hordes of enemies when they can shoot up hordes of spiders in their back yard
abstract isle
Well it depends on the popularity of the game mostly, but we have a tiny population compared to other regions
elder meadow
Soo i am a bit confused now