Oh yeah, I share the same feeling. Currently trying to upgrade computer so I can play there since it's easier on the wrists for me. So close yet still feels so far.
#doom-2016
marble quest
noble moat
I feel ya. I’m just happy eternal will be on the switch at all
But still I’m sad I have to wait the 4+ whatever months it is
Everyone else already will have half a year playing and probably first dlc by then
marble quest
Oh yea, that's a long while to wait. If anything, by then all guides one could ever need will be up and ready to use when stuck lol
noble moat
I’m still doing my first run on nightmare
On the plus side. At least I’ll know what all the next like 10 series will be. So I can know which series I want to try harder on etc
marble quest
Oh yea
marble socket
Whenever i go back to 2016 its for kadingir sanctum. Its one of the best levels in any videogame ive ever played and ill never get bored of it
ornate basin
I hate that level because cacos are introduced
ornate basin
It still looked the same as mars
errant bloom
Titans realm was awesome
ornate basin
That was
errant bloom
The only unique looking hell part i think
marble quest
The emptiness of hell made it really uncanny and hellish for me. When the more detailed zones came mmm so nice and spooky.
little sandal
my favourite levels are easily titans realm and argent d' nur
ornate basin
Too bad the boss sucked
little sandal
did u just call spider mastermind a bad boss
noble moat
It’s definitely a garbage fight, spider master mind was stupidly easy.
ornate basin
And the hell gaurds were bullshit
autumn prism
I dunno, i liked em
little sandal
i liked hell guards
ornate basin
Cyberdemon is pretty fun
little sandal
wait for the green orb
shoot it to stun the hell guards
use one hell guard as a meat shield
ornate basin
That should’ve been in it makes the fight pathetic
autumn prism
Siege mode em, ssg em, chaingun em
ornate basin
But doom has always had bad bosses so I don’t fault 2016 for it
noble moat
I liked he’ll guard
ornate basin
The the eternal bosses are pretty good though
autumn prism
Bad bosses? More like underwhelming bosses
ornate basin
Worst doom boss is icon from doom 2
little sandal
'its a wall its a fucking wall'
autumn prism
They are by no means terribly designed and i think doom 2016 has the best bosses in the series still even after eternal
ornate basin
Then spider mastermind from doom 1
@autumn prism well of course
The competition isn’t that steep once you take eternal out of the question
ornate basin
It’s like saying this shit sandwich is worse then this ok sandwich
Doom 3 has the worst bosses
autumn prism
Yeah
ornate basin
Roe has some good bosses though
raven patio
The Vagrant boss didn't even feel like a boss
Thought it was a new demon in my first time playing
ornate basin
What is that again
raven patio
Spider tiddy lady
ornate basin
Oh
little sandal
the imp was the first boss introduced
ornate basin
That should have been an enemy
autumn prism
Does that mean naked doom guy is a boss?
late scroll
I had major problems defeating Spider Mastermind and the Hell Guards. Cyberdemon was easy for me.
noble moat
Easy to dodge with artificial gauss dashing
errant bloom
I dont rate bosses by their difficulty. Rather if they are fun. And most are fairly challenging so id say the worst bosses by that account in the both reboots its Hellguards and Khan respectively
And even as worst they are still fun to do.
ornate basin
The khan makyr was disappointing and hacky
noble moat
Hmm terms of fun
Guards rank #1 for me then
Once you learn all their stuff it’s like a dance
errant bloom
Its just underwhelming. Thats all i expected an epic fight with massive choir as it is a fight between gods
But atleast IOS was climactic af
Hellguards seemed like bosses that come back later as regular enemies like Marauder tbh. Thats why i hope they come back as regular enemies in eternals dlc
errant bloom
Together with hellrazers and Harvester
noble moat
Bro guards would fit perfect in eternal, especially the projectile one and melee one
ornate basin
When I saw prowlers I really hoped we be fighting the haverster in eternal
noble moat
I can almost guarantee Harvester returns, be a shame it was only added to the multiplayer of 2016
errant bloom
Harvester has those 3 projectile attacks that would fit in in this bullet hell game already lmao
ornate basin
The biggest shame was the fact that the dlcs for this game were multiplayer dlcs
noble moat
Heck prowlers returned, which means they certainly have looked at the MP demons for 2016
errant bloom
Maybe bring back summoners as revivers
noble moat
Revivers don’t work in eternal no bodies
Which is why Archie spawns demons. And we don’t need 2 spawners
errant bloom
Hmmm
ornate basin
Summoners could buff demons
errant bloom
I mean the game can detect where the enemies died
noble moat
Too much work
errant bloom
Ig
noble moat
Especially when spawning/ reviving is pretty much the same thing
errant bloom
Nah i mean summoners have no reason to be in eternal with archie around unless they make them different. But its called a "Summoner"... so they wont come back
But i hope for hellguards, harvester and hellrazers tho
noble moat
^
ornate basin
I just want hell razers and harvesters back
Did I mess up your agreeing triangle bob
ornate basin
Imagine the glory kills on hell razers with the doom blade
paper escarp
chop chop
noble moat
Through the lazer arm
errant bloom
I liked the 2016 mp only glory kills on mancubi with it shooting itself lmao
paper escarp
Summoner glory kills we're sort of lacking a bit of gore if you ask me
errant bloom
The head twist is awesome tho
paper escarp
Other than when you snap its neck off, but yeah still, needs more rip n' tear
noble moat
Damn I just want eternal already
ornate basin
A glory kill could have the hell razer firing them you use their laser to cut their head off
paper escarp
"lazer"
errant bloom
They prob just gonna copy n past soldiers GKs
ornate basin
Didn’t they already do that with them in 2016
errant bloom
Harvester and Hellguards definitely get new ones
paper escarp
i like it when the soldier looks at you spooped then you just punch their face back to Oblivion gates
noble moat
Yeah they did fluffy
ornate basin
Lame
paper escarp
Glory kills are glory kills, if it bleeds when i decapitate it, im satisfied
errant bloom
Yes but its ok imo. I just want these lazers that change my movement
ornate basin
Lazer is an incorrect spelling
paper escarp
if we'd have the dash option in 2016 it would prob be easier to fight the Dootdemon
errant bloom
Who gives a shit
noble moat
Revenant is stupidly easy in 2016
ornate basin
I can not stand for this bucthery of basic grammar
errant bloom
Tankier than in eternal tho afaik
paper escarp
I meant Cyberdemon instead of Revenants but ye
noble moat
Actually the Hell Razer shoots a Lazer is confirmed in the lore
ornate basin
How did dootdemon mean the cyberdemon
paper escarp
replacing cyber with doot
errant bloom
Doot
ornate basin
When the only demon related with doot is the spooky boi
ornate basin
He is the spookiest of spooksters
errant bloom
Is it me or are the graphics on revenant quite weird in etrrnal?
paper escarp
More flesh i guess
ornate basin
The 2016 design of the revenant is the only design I like more then eternal’s
errant bloom
Its Overall unpleasant to look at. Im sounding weird but 2016 Revenant looks so much more detailed.
ornate basin
The soldiers in this game looked like gorillas
paper escarp
gorillas with "lazer" balls out of their arms
ornate basin
I hate their design
paper escarp
which is basically their plasma gun shoved in their arms
errant bloom
Each enemy in Eternal have personality now. But i just dislike revenant design
ornate basin
And the shield guys in this game is more dangerous then the barrons
paper escarp
Mostly bcs the dude with the shield absorbs boolets alot
also, shotgun for some reason
ornate basin
I don’t know if that’s because the shield guys are overpowered
Or because the barrons are wimps
Or both
One of those things are true
paper escarp
When you meet the Barons your armed to the freakin' teeth so their ez pz, but the shield guys are tricky to get unless you got explosives, and they come in lvl 3
even the explosive shell attachment on ur basic shotgun barely does anythin
Unless your one of those that use frag grenades
errant bloom
Oh shield dudes in 2016? Those were horror
ornate basin
Also if I ever replay 2016 (I lost my copy) then I will be distraught over the crouch
Why is there a crouch
paper escarp
the satisfaction when u GK a shield boi
ornate basin
Why would you need a crouch
paper escarp
Smol places ig, not like its important in combat
errant bloom
Dunno marty himself said "what were we thinking"
ornate basin
The only place you need to crouch can be skipped easily
paper escarp
imagine the guy that tries to play doot while crouching through every combat location
ornate basin
That will fuck me up when I eventually replay 2016
ornate basin
Pressing the button and the chainsaw equiping and not swinging
paper escarp
Pinky's
I like equiping the chainsaw and screwing around with it without killing anything
and then u just run after a poor imp and just yeet him with it
errant bloom
I get you but i did that in 2016 few times till i got bored in the same level
paper escarp
or ran out of gas
errant bloom
Anyway 2 pips need a reason in eternal
Like wtf do you need 3 for prowlers
Literally just teleporting imps
candid juniper
hey guys can anyone help me reach level 5 on doom 2016 multiplayer (PS4)
I'm trying to get the trophy, but god i've been on the matchmaking lobby for over an hour
a little late to the party i suppose...
ornate basin
You don’t have to say the same thing in 2 different chatrooms
ornate basin
You got the glitched achievement
candid juniper
it's the only one left
ornate basin
Wow
candid juniper
i got everything else
ornate basin
Huh my achievements glicthed out on me
candid juniper
i think thehy patched it up in the later updates
ornate basin
I got this game in 2018 the updates must’ve missed my copy
candid juniper
i got mine last week so i really didnt have any problems.
candid juniper
i got this cuz i saw so many good reviews on eternal! but i didnt wanna jump into it until i went through 2016
i had sucha blast playing it, i went for platinum, but now im stuck in my tracks
candid juniper
u still have your copy? of 2016?
ornate basin
I lost mine
candid juniper
damn
ornate basin
Damn indeed
errant bloom
2016 is still fun after Eternal. Its not a chore.
ornate basin
It’s hard to play when you get used to dash
errant bloom
Sure dashing is gone but thats ok. Its an older title
candid juniper
im super psyched for eternal. but i really dont wanna let this go until i get plat
im sooo oclose
errant bloom
Understandable. Rip and tear brother
ornate basin
Well razor welcome to the server
candid juniper
thanks fluffy!
ornate basin
candid juniper
i'll be messaging every now and then. see if anyone can help me out. i'll keep it to a minimum lest i be reported for spam hahahaha
ornate basin
You can talk all you want that’s not how spam works
errant bloom
Yeah man just talk about doom
ornate basin
Also have you only played 2016 or have you got any of the other doom games
errant bloom
Doom 1993 and 64 are really good
ornate basin
The old ones are classics
candid juniper
it was in their inflight entertainment system
ornate basin
Cheap classics
candid juniper
it was pretty badass but sooo difficult
soundtrack was great too
hey elvis, you still have your 2016?
ornate basin
Classic doom has some great music
ornate basin
Plutonia?
errant bloom
Oh god
ornate basin
Plutonia on nightmare
Or eternal on UN
hard herald
Just came to this discord after defeating the hell knights in doom 2016... big pain since I was in ultra-violent.
flint dune
Did you mean Hell Guards? Cause’ Hell knights are reoccurring
noble moat
Lots of hell knights. Sure u don’t mean guards?
hard herald
Yes hell guards sorry
I went back and forth dying to the first one, I was relieved when I finally killed him just to find out two more showed up.
fathom sparrow
lol
hard herald
You can stun one of them with a rocket and spray at him with the minigun but when there are two you have to just stun then attack the second. In my personal opinion the double barrel shotgun is your best friend during the boss fight with the guards
candid juniper
Assault rifle micro missle all the way
noble moat
Mastered combat grenade launcher is best
autumn prism
Nah just use the fully upgraded super shotgun on them
And siege mode em
like everything else in the game
autumn prism
Is doom 2016's multiplayer region locked?
proud eagle
Doom 2016
Gud
Doom eternal gud
Doom 64 gud
Doom gud
Doom 2 gud
Eh the vr... Ehhhhh
elder meadow
Forreal, just let me run around.
harsh smelt
Tried to play the vr, but it just flashed random textures on screen
autumn prism
Is it just me or does 2016 has tighter aim assist then eternal? Or at least it feel easier to aim
elder meadow
As I see in multiplayer there is an aim assist for some guns.
Which seems to disappear over time, probably to make the game easier for beginners.
pearl crescent
Yes you do
autumn prism
I dunno it just seems to me either the deadzones are different in eternal or the aim assist is weaker
obsidian iron
Wazza
elder meadow
@proud eagle no doom 3 gud?
hushed vault
Doom 3 not just Gud, Doom 3 Masterpiece
simple trail
No
hushed vault
I liked it more than 2016
elder meadow
Doom 3 ok
noble moat
3 is awesome
hushed vault
on the account of actually being able to hear the enemies
elder meadow
Btw you can hear enemies in any games since 80's
What are the best ultra nightmare arcade runes?
noble moat
Cheese or no cheese?
elder meadow
The sound appeared for a long time.
hushed vault
@elder meadow how come I have no memory of what the 2016 Baron sounds like?
oh, right, because it has no sounds
elder meadow
I don't mind either
noble moat
Then you already know the 3
Rich get richer, equipment rune. Saving throw, the I want to cheese my UN starter pack
elder meadow
I'll try it
noble moat
Once you get rich get richer it’s just spam gauss, siege gauss, and rockets till you beat the game
Lock on burst rockets
elder meadow
What the fucj rich get richer is broken why haven't I used this before
balmy urchin
LOL
elder meadow
Rich get richer is op actually
Also, catching a relic on silver means that my run is over? I'm trying to go for slayer rating
balmy urchin
he's doing arcade UN
What are the best ultra nightmare arcade runes?
@elder meadow
best UN ARCADE runes
lol
noble moat
Lol
elder meadow
Yea arcade
noble moat
Same shit same runes
elder meadow
This teleporting archvile looking shit is making me lose my temper
noble moat
Just lock on with rpg or hit them with a siege
If all 3 rockets hit they get staggered
elder meadow
I'm trying to Gauss siege them
You can easily kill summoner with RPG's lock upgrade
deft hemlock
Any1 from europe wanna do mp?
elder meadow
I forgot to ask this before, how does equipment power help me? @noble moat sorry for the ping
noble moat
If it’s maxed out, with siphon grenades it sucks armor
elder meadow
Ahh thanks so much man
noble moat
Which is why combined with Roch get richer makes it op
Armor below 75? Toss a few siphons. And they stack with the number of demons inside the orb
ornate basin
Yes my favorite rune
noble moat
So as long as you hit 2+ demons it fills hella quick
ornate basin
Roch get richer was op as hell
noble moat
I personally don’t like using rich get richer
I feel it defeats the purpose of the game, but that’s just me
ornate basin
Try roch get richer it’s more fun
noble moat
Nah I had more fun in my no ammo upgrade run
Which is the polar opposite of Rich get richer XD
ornate basin
I wish I did that instead of pistol only
noble moat
That sounds like torture
ornate basin
Which is the most horrifying experience in my life
It was the most painfuly slow slog ever
Which is why I’m so glad eternal has no pistol
noble moat
Eternal pistol looked pretty good ngl. But it would have been replaced like 5 seconds later
ornate basin
The only reason the pistol existed was for pistol starts
Whicj stopped after doom 64
So doom 3 and 2016 didn’t need one
hard herald
Looking for help on the final boss. What mods and strays should I use
Ultra-violent makes this a pain
noble moat
Stay away
Rockets
Mastered grenade launcher
Gauss
Micro missiles
Equipment rune with siphon means you pretty much can’t die during the fight
hard herald
Ok thanks
remote sundial
skyrim better
noble moat
K
proud eagle
Doom 3 very good too
hard herald
Defeating the mastermind was a pain but with bobthebobs advice I was able to do it. I mostly just used lock on rockets and the guess cannon with the occasional combat grenade when I ran out of ammo
I’m thinking about completing the game in ultra-nightmare difficulty, any heads up about the he’ll I’m going to be sent into?
noble moat
Have you tried nightmare yet
hard herald
No should I?
noble moat
Oh boy should you
flint dune
Definitely
noble moat
UV and nightmare don’t compare
flint dune
Imps do 75 damage on Nightmare lmao, you should probably try that difficulty before trying UN
hard herald
Very well I’ll try to complete it on nightmare and then I’ll think about ultra nightmare. So in ultra is it like hardcore though
As in death is death
flint dune
Ultra Nightmare is Nightmare, but with no checkpoints. You die, you start all over
noble moat
Ultra is nightmare but one death for the whole game. No saves. No pauses. No loading checkpoints
Your safety net is beat the level and save. Die and you restart the game
hard herald
So basically it’s a gamers true hell
noble moat
Most large enemies do 100+ damage per hit
It was literally added as a joke difficulty
flint dune
Imps or falling will probably cause most of your deaths 👍
flint dune
UN does skip the tutorial level though, so that’s good
Yeah everyone agrees the 2016 Imps are assholes
hard herald
Lol
red flume
adorable assholes
hard herald
Well wish me luck, I think I’m going to need it
Wait new challenge, complete ultra nightmare with only the pistol
noble moat
Do at least 10 nightmare runs before you try
Someone already did UN pistol no runes no equipment
hard herald
And how did that go for them?
ornate basin
They probably had nightmares for the rest of their life
hard herald
Probably
noble moat
And it was like a 6 hours run too
hard herald
I’m most likely going to if I do an ultra nightmare pistol run just rush it if anything
hard herald
And this is why imps will be my death.
noble moat
It’s not even their super fire ball to fear. It’s the fast one
It does like 40 damage and is super hard to dodge
hard herald
New headline: DOOM GUYS WORST NIGHTMARE: Crowds
Imagine glitching the game is that your without the doom armor
It’s been done but after loading it goes on automatically
little sandal
isnt it a speedrun strat to skip the praetor suit
hot ocean
ive done a few nightmare runs but none were deathless :(
then again most of my deaths were due to my low IQ rather than any one enemy
noble moat
I’ve done 2 deathless nightmare runs, but it is still intense
candid juniper
hey guys, we're setting up a private match on May 20 GMT for Doom 2016 on PS4
we're gonna do a trophy run to hit level 5 so we can get that platinum
let me know if you wanna rip n tear with us!
candid juniper
@fathom sparrow join us!!
errant dagger
hey i had an issue with a corrupted save
is these anyway i can skip levels in the game in order to get to where i was?
candid juniper
watch speed runs so you can glitch through the level
elder meadow
roses are red
violets are blue
fallschirmjägergewehr 42
high raptor
wolfenstein/doom multiverse confirmed
stable vine
Spider mastermind was too easy, beat it first try, (although I nearly died a couple times)
noble moat
It is a super easy fight
stable vine
It is
The last few fights before it are the real challenge and the actual boss is super easy
willow orbit
cobalt patio
fierce temple
Oh. Oops
noble moat
And if you read the rules you would have known that answer 🤔
little sandal
uh
so i started a nightmare run of doom eternal and the game rendered it as ultra-nightmare midway
any clue how to get my progress back
maiden temple
That sucks
Pretty sure it doesnt let you change the difficulty mid game when you are in ultra nightmare
little sandal
i started a nightmare run
and it said it was ultranightmare when i died
welp im screwed
high raptor
F
maiden temple
F
stoic epoch
F
raven patio
F
south junco
F
gusty onyx
yes, that song that plays in classic DOOM
coarse nimbus
Damn you revenants
crisp nest
Pain in the ass elementals
trail narwhal
Just started doom what difficulty to play? I m good at shooting
elder meadow
Hurt me plenty
trail narwhal
Okey
Any other advice for beginner
I just dont like thing that doom is so big download but very less play time in it😢
flint dune
I’d start with Ultra Violence if you’re an experienced FPS player tbh. Also, be aggressive. Don’t play Doom like you would with any other modern shooter. That’s my advice.
flint dune
Yeah
trail narwhal
Ohk i have no idea about this game
flint dune
You want to be aggressive in this game. Glory killing rewards you with HP.
trail narwhal
Aggressive like shooting all time
flint dune
Basically yeah. This game is basically run and gun. You don’t take cover, you don’t run away.
Takes a little while to get used to but after the first mission you’ll get the jist of it.
trail narwhal
Ya it took me 15 hrs to adapt to witcher3
Witcher 3 was like dodge and attacka nd then repeat it
flint dune
Oof. Well Doom is pretty simple at its core. Pull the trigger and you’ll be fine. If this is your first doom game then yeah start with Hurt Me Plenty.
trail narwhal
Ok ultra violence sounded tough
flint dune
Ultra Violence is a good starter but if you’re not used to arena shooters, I wouldn’t advise starting with it
trail narwhal
So how many times u played it
flint dune
Me? I’ve beaten the campaign at least four or five times. Last run(s) was on Nightmare. Ultra Nightmare was too hard for me lol. It’s not as replayable as Eternal imo
chrome nova
Hurt Me Plenty is good for a first-time run, it's absolutely exhilarating for a first time play but not too punishing
noble moat
^
If you are used to fast paced shooters I suggest UV
But if you have played FPS games but not necessarily fast ones, HMP is the way to go
chrome nova
After Hurt Me Plenty I went straight to playing Nightmare and that was a pretty good difficulty boost after playing the first time.
noble moat
I started on UV. My next 16 runs were nightmare
chrome nova
samesies
noble moat
Last one was a no ammo upgrade run. Most fun I had in 2016
chrome nova
I think one of my last runs was a no upgrade run.
no weapon mods or praetor tokens or argent cells
except the one that Hayden forces you to get and I put that one in Ammo
noble moat
I don’t do “challenges” if it hinders the play of the game
The no ammo upgrade one imo enhanced gameplay. Plus it’s so I can get used to eternal when it finally launches
chrome nova
yeah, no health or armor upgrades is lowkey fun though
Makes Nightmare all that more punishing
noble moat
I prefer to play skillful. Not being afraid of getting one shotted
Which is my complaint about 2016. Until you get siphon grenades if you take damage you have to play a bit more passive since armor is hard to find
chrome nova
Makes armor feel more like a nice gift when it's found, though
noble moat
Until you keep getting 5 armor 15 armor and losing it all 2 seconds later
elder meadow
Ok so umm
Either i somehow suddenly got extremely bad at Doom.
Or Doom 2016 is way harder than i initially thought...
Anyway, if you have time, try beating Vega level on Nightmare.
Rules:
No BFG
No Siphon
No Power ups
No Ammo runes (both rich get richer and ammo boost)
Tell me if you can beat it, and how much effort it took.
chrome nova
VEGA Central Processing on nightmare is the hardest level. That's gonna be tough.
chrome nova
I'm rusty 'cause I haven't played either of the Dooms in a while ;-;
noble moat
I’ll add 2 more rules to that Aryzon.
Imma use my save file with no ammo upgrade.
I’ll only use Frags No holograms
Ok so I’m on switch handheld no gyro
Nightmare
No ammo upgrade
My runes are
Vacuum
Equipment power
In flight mobility
Plus the rules Aryzon stated, brb
noble moat
Beat it
First I want to thank you, I haven’t been replaying this level nearly enough damn it’s fun as hell
@elder meadow I did it
elder meadow
So how was it?
noble moat
Hard but fun. Deathless even with my janky joycons
The no siphon hurts tho, it made me have to play more passive than I would have liked, but still fun
elder meadow
Something honestly tells me that Switch version might be easier than PC.
Cause on Nightmare, baron can deal like 120 damage in one hit.
noble moat
Oh yeah it does for sure
Also no. It’s the exact same game.
The trick is to not get hit by a baron
Except I did almost die when a baron hit me and I had 20 hp left. That scared the shit out of me
elder meadow
My main problem was that, especially on the train level.
I was always getting sniped by Baron or Cyber Mancubus which was usually a 1 hit kill.
noble moat
Bro that train part was crazy as hell
There is a point where there is a summoner, 2 barons. 2 cyber mancubus, 2 normal. Cacos. Pinkies all around
elder meadow
Yes, definitely.
I mean sure you can cheat it by spamming BFG, but wheres the fun in that.
noble moat
I hate using Bfg Tbh, it removed the challenge. The fun
elder meadow
Anyway, i will record the level then try to see where my mistakes lie.
noble moat
U have eternal yes?
elder meadow
I do.
noble moat
elder meadow
brb
noble moat
Eternal I feel without having it.
Is that it is both harder and easier than 2016
It seems faster paced, and more demons. But also pretty much half the actions you do regain health and armor
What
Yes. It’s pretty much a remaster. Rebalance. With doom 1 and 2 bundled
2016 doesn’t need a remaster. The remaster is eternal
And we have the slayer collection
$40
Doom 1-2-3-2016
Which it should
Well I guess I’ll know when it finally releases
Not on switch
I just proved I had no “real” problem doing vega processing on switch handheld no BFG no siphon grenades no op runes nightmare.
And that was fun as hell.
Damn bro if I hear one more person say eternal is better than2016 imma flip.
2016 is my favorite FPS of all time. And the fact that there is a BETTER version out there thst I can’t play really rustles my jimmies
What. I literally just said I hope it is better
I will gladly make That my favorite FPS if it truly is better.
The master levels alone already make me want it more than 2016
The issue with 2016 is after beating the game there is little replay value in the early levels.
Maybe the last 4 are worth replaying, the rest are too easy.
But master levels changes all of that
elder meadow
I dunno man
I KEEP getting hit by something no matter how hard i try to avoid all damage.
noble moat
The only things I can think of are
Summoner
Damn imps (it’s probably the imps)
Yeah now that I think about it it’s the imps
You gauss dashing?
To increase speed jump backwards and hit the enemy in front with gauss. Makes you fly backwards
It’s how I avoid most shots
elder meadow
Ok so i was doing perfectly fine
Was at full stack.
Got hit by Cyber Mancubus and Pinky at once. Insta death.
Anyway, i recorded some gameplay. Lemme upload it.
noble moat
Yeah pinkies are a butt
If you are still having problems I suggest cheesing with plasma stun.
noble moat
I also did it with my no ammo upgrade save so I had to constantly chainsaw
elder meadow
I was shooting at cyber mancubus while trying to run under the bridge to hide.
And then the pinky comes from behind that i could not see.
noble moat
Hit a jump pad and siege midair the summoner as soon as possible
elder meadow
Yes i am starting to think that the ammo rune is the thing that makes everything so much easierl
noble moat
I never used it
I felt 2016 gave too much ammo as is
I also pretty much don’t use the SSG
Shotgun grenade launcher mastered is much better
Range shots/ combos. Plus if you aim it right you can stagger imps from far away
elder meadow
I am uploading the video.
I have completed the Cooler level and moved to Train where i got instagibbed.
noble moat
I messed up with the train because I missed the revenant snd hit the Barons in the back so they were rushing me
A mix of grenade launcher grenades and gauss dashing was key
elder meadow
HD still being processed
anyway here is the video.
I am really starting to think that Eternal made me worse at Doom 2016
@noble moat
flint dune
Man, watching that I’m glad they removed those sound cues when doing glory kills in Eternal.
It was pretty annoying in 2016
elder meadow
Sound cues?
flint dune
Yeah watch from 0:30-0:36. When you do glory kills in 2016, there’s certain sounds played. It was cool at first but it got kind of annoying.
scarlet dove
idk i think doom being stupidly over the top is part of its charm
elder meadow
Haha yes I lose an ultra nightmare run because I forget to use the chainsaw. I pull it out and forget to hit the trigger I love my brain
noble moat
Well eternal adds hella QOL improvements, so I can see why Going back would make you worse
Yeah the seemingly out of nowhere hits are 100% imps using the fast fireball
The damage is consistent to confirm this
onyx terrace
https://twitter.com/wario64/status/1263215118646534145?s=21
if this is true? CUE THE MUSIC
hushed vault
here's the music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atdyHvLhJXo
ornate basin
Wow that’s good music
blissful imp
Because of no ammo up run, i never used so much the RL
And its a goood weapon after all
trail narwhal
Some guys have played this game 16 time dont u get bored listening same story i am newbie in game so no idea
errant bloom
Its the gameplay loop not the story.
errant bloom
You cant skip like eternal unfortunatly
trail narwhal
Ok i played this game 10 mins yesterday i will start from today so any tips i am on hmp mode and the graphics was so good
trail narwhal
Lol i will shoot all enemies
errant bloom
Rip and tear until it is DONE
trail narwhal
I dont know about enemies
errant bloom
Wont spoil the surprise. Fun is finding it out
trail narwhal
Your words look legendary kekw
Ok
I am gonna start doom today finish tomorrow then start eternal finish next day so much fun
noble moat
Considering 2016 both does and doesn’t have a story makes it great for replayability
Besides the 4-5 instances with a quick cutscene, you will almost always be running and gunning
trail narwhal
Google say max 15 for doom2016
flint dune
You can finish Doom 2016 glitchless in probably 3 hours. First time playthrough though, it’s probably gonna take you a near 8 hours
errant bloom
If you take time and explore might take over <9 ye. The more you replay it and know everythings place it gets like to 3-4
trail narwhal
Nah am gonna enjoy it slowly
errant bloom
Thats the way to go
trail narwhal
I spent all my data on both games kekw so will atlest play for month
noble moat
What, you can’t beat doom in 3 hours
flint dune
If you speed run it, I’m guessing you could.
noble moat
Assuming you skip everything and just rush nonstop. Maybe
No secrets nothing.
I know the first and second levels alone you can skip like 20 min if you don’t do any of the secrets
Same for level 3 and 4.
However for foundry you would probably still want to do the rpg secret. Cuz rpg
Dammit now I want to see how long it takes me to win by rushing.
And I started a new Nightmare save. Curiosity got the better of me
flint dune
Heh, nice. The fastest I can get through is probably 6 hours. I suck at speedrunning.
Funny, I’ve played 2016 for 4 years but for some reason I’ve only completed about 5 runs. Played Snapmap a lot 
noble moat
I’ve only had it since last year, 16 now 17 runs in
And about 10 failed UN attempts
And 2 nightmare deathless runs
flint dune
Oh lol, nice. I only attempted UN about 6 times. Farthest I got was the foundry. Much better at Eternal
noble moat
Yeah eternal looks easier
flint dune
It’s harder at first, but all the abilities allow you to regain resources so quickly. You can go from 5 HP to 70 in 3 seconds.
noble moat
Yeah 2016 may have a shit ton of ammo, but in terms of healing you are very limited
Meanwhile eternal has
Meathook
Flame belch
Ice grenade
And GK actually gives hp unlike 2016
flint dune
Yeah, even on UN, you get about 15 HP from each glory kill
At least it seems that way
Enemies can still kill you in 2 hits tho
flint dune
Good luck man. Cultist Base is the 3rd level and probably the hardest in the entire campaign
noble moat
That’s already my favorite level
The snow.
Man do I love snow levels
Imma replay that master level till my eyes bleed
flint dune
Yeah the environment and skyboxes are amazing
noble moat
I’m hella lucky too, it’s the Lithograph I got as well
flint dune
Nicee.
noble moat
Master levels are already my favorite, the ability to make every level a challenge sounds awesome
flint dune
Yeah they make for some real good fun. You don’t even have to finish the campaign to play one either. Hoping more come out soon.
Btw has it been announced when the Switch version for Eternal in coming yet? I can’t imagine how the wait must feel...
noble moat
Painful as hell
And no they haven’t
flint dune
Darn
noble moat
I fully expect them to announce it next month during “e3”
Or whatever that one patchwork announcement thing that is being setup
Release date Imma guess August-October
flint dune
Fingers crossed man. Wish it came out for all platforms already. Sucks that not everyone can play atm
noble moat
Yeah totally
I mean I know why it hasn’t been released yet but still hurts
Damn is this game awesome on switch tho like holy shit
Even after 170+ hours and 16+ runs Its still mind boggling to think I’m playing doom 2016 on a handheld.
noble moat
I found a glitch?
If you quick switch to gauss and instantly hold the left trigger and fire it instantly fires a siege shot
Oh god this is overpowered as shit.
This and rich get richer can instantly get you through UN with no problems
Idk if this has been a thing before (I did join this game like 3 years late)
flint dune
Woah wtf. I had no idea that glitch existed. 2016 has so much cheese lmao
noble moat
It’s broken as hell, because I just tried. And I can do it everytime
I litteraly did it by accident once like. Wtf Whoah. Then found out exactly what I just did and sure enough
flint dune
Basically an instant siege lol
noble moat
You can fire an instant siege shot without having to charge it.
Hello rich get richer
I hate you
But it’s time to experiment
Imma see how fast I can cheese spider master mind like this
Ok it is limited tho. It still has the cool down after as if you did fire a siege. So you can’t just super spam it.
But if you fire 2 rockets that’s enough time for the cool down
chrome nova
Cheesing the spider is easy
Shoot the BFG and bring up the weapon wheel to keep the projectile in the air.
elder meadow
Doom 2016: Avoid damage
Doom Eternal: Outheal damage
noble moat
Basically
plush kayak
you didn't have to avoid damage in 2016 tho
you could use the runes that gave you armor points
which technically isn't healing but
noble moat
On nightmare it gave pretty much nothing
Unless you spammed GK which you don’t do in 2016 nightmare
plush kayak
does nightmare remove that temporary invulnerability you get when glory killing?
noble moat
No. But as soon as it ends you lose 80 hp+ if hit
So that 5 armor you got is wasted
elder meadow
It seems i was right after all.
Eternal did make me worse at Doom 2016. Been practicing for a bit, slowly getting my skills back.
Yes you get abysmal armor from the rune (especially if it is now upgrade).
plush kayak
I dunno, if you can dance the dance properly with the glory killing, seems like a fun way to go down
whole narwhal
What does Eternal do to make you "worse"? I go back to 2016 & feel like I'm manhandling everything lol.
supple finch
you can do a lot of stuff in eternal that you can't do in 2016 i.e. throw grenades and shoot at the same time
also dash, that's the big one ofc
cobalt patio
harsh lagoon
@noble moat This trick is old in fact. It's been known for about a year and half!
obsidian iron
Vega is a good boy
fiery hollow
@obsidian iron yes it is
south junco
I feel like Eternal increased my situational awareness for 2016 but that's just me
elder meadow
The fact that i can take hits in Eternal and get away with it.
So i pay less attention on my position and avoiding damage.
Also i got slower with my weapon swapping because in Eternal you cannot swap weapons.
flint dune
Well you can, it’s just a bit slower than 2016’s swapping speed.
It’s really not that much slower though, especially when you upgrade it
elder meadow
It the best character of 2016 and Eternal
autumn prism
Is it just me or does eternal and 2016 feel different when it comes to aiming with a controller
2016 feels kinda smoother
In that regard
coral kiln
Sam: buncha excuses for demonic invasion and scores of dead
VEGA: hi I'm VEGA, if you do some cool shit I'll make your suit kick more ass
orchid prism
guys I accidentally opened the console
does that mean that my achievements will be disabled and I won’t be able to play online
tepid leaf
2016 seems to have more pronounced or better aim assist, in Eternal aim assist works only for alt fire
chrome nova
guys I accidentally opened the console
does that mean that my achievements will be disabled and I won’t be able to play online
No, you're fine, just don't try to do anything crazy like enter cheats and you should probably be fine.
elder meadow
Console cheats does not work in 2016 haha!
What did you expect, that this is a game from the 90's that will just let you enter any commands?
flint dune
Well, Eternal lets you iirc
idle island
doom + 2015
elder meadow
So I was playing doom 2016 and after glory killing a cybermancubus against a wall I completely skipped the part where you get the BFG and now I gotta complete ultra-nightmare without it.....so now I guess I'm doing a no BFG run
toxic oak
ok so
orchid prism
thank you @chrome nova
orchid prism
@chrome nova I DID IT AGAIN FUCK
toxic oak
man you can play multiplayer?
orchid prism
@chrome nova is there anything to worry about
all i did was hit the `~ key and it opened the thing and i accidentaly typed some stuff
would i have anything to worry about?
toxic oak
doom doesn't even start for me unless steam is in offline mode
chrome nova
Nothing to worry about.
noble moat
In that case it’s definitely a you problem
chrome nova
As far as I know, you have to enter a cheat command to get marked as a cheater.
Network play and online services are disabled. Saves and SnapMaps written will be permanently marked, re-triggering this when accessed. Restart without accessing any developer tools to restore.
orchid prism
ah ok
chrome nova
It'll get your save file tainted if you cheat, but the disabling of multiplayer is temporary I think.
orchid prism
so basically if you type a cheat command then you are a cheater but if you open it and don't type a cheat command you are fine, yes?
@chrome nova
chrome nova
Yeah
orchid prism
i can type stuff like poopy butts in the command prompt and not be marked as a cheater?
chrome nova
Seriously don't worry about it, the Doom 2016 used to be super strict about it so I understand the concern but I'd say don't worry.
orchid prism
but if i type actual codes then i am a cheater?
chrome nova
Some old sources will say that if you even open the console that it will mark you as a cheater.
That used to be true but not anymore, that got changed.
Don't cheat and you won't be marked as a cheater.
orchid prism
alright cool
thank you, i was reading old sources and getting anxious because sim the type of person to try to get 100% of achievements
toxic oak
ok but can someone help me
toxic oak
yes ik
orchid prism
verify integrity of game files
toxic oak
i did that
toxic oak
i searched it on youtube
i even removed the local file
and went in offline mode
the only thing i couldn't find was how to get past the "loading profile"
screen
orchid prism
uninstall and reinstall?
orchid prism
yeah but how long have you been having issues?
toxic oak
uh
I tried fixing it for like 12 hours
i even went as far as rolling back my drivers
orchid prism
yeah but what's one hour opposed to twelve
toxic oak
true
toxic oak
or ima just play terraria
orchid prism
👉
👉
toxic oak
if it doesn't work I have a gamer idea
orchid prism
what's your gamer idea
orchid prism
yes but make sure you are able to do that
because you don't wanna fuck up a game file and then have it be broken for eternity
toxic oak
well funny thing is i tried it and then the game broke
it literally crashed before loading profile
funny right
orchid prism
lmao i wouldn't go that far but ok
i'd maybe uninstall and reinstall drivers
or go to control panel and then update them there
toxic oak
i mean there's no risk
orchid prism
because i don't think it would be a driver issue
toxic oak
if I roll them back i can just update them again
but it's gonna be really annoying if I have to do it everytime i wanna play doom
orchid prism
i wouldn't go through all that i would just completely uninstall and reinstall
toxic oak
ok
orchid prism
how do i kill shield guys
ornate basin
Plasma stun
orchid prism
im at the part where dr. samuel hayden is telling me to go to the vega facility
noble moat
So I assume you don’t have gauss yet
noble moat
Are u new to the game?
orchid prism
yes
noble moat
First.
Welcome to the greatest FPS of all time imo
ornate basin
2nd greatest eternal is better
noble moat
I’ll see when I get it
toxic oak
eternal bad ngl
ornate basin
3rd place is super noah ark 3d
noble moat
There are a few ways to kill Shield guys
Plasma gun stun them
Toss a grenade behind them
Grenade launcher them at the side
Chainsaw them
Rpg near them
toxic oak
1st place is lego batman 2
noble moat
Once you get gauss cannon they become a joke
ornate basin
The guass cannon is an elevator btw
elder meadow
no it’s the one with the I AM VEGA intro. res ops i think?
ornate basin
I am vega is the vega core mission
toxic oak
he is vegan
elder meadow
vegan demons
ornate basin
What was that auto correct
orchid prism
sam hayden said that like 81% people dead or something
toxic oak
man
orchid prism
the level i am in is meltdown
noble moat
Foundry is easy wym hardest level
toxic oak
ok this wasn't as bad as i thought
noble moat
Hardest is Vega Central Processing
elder meadow
Getting the hang of the multiplayer
Especially when it comes to using the Cacodemon to turn my enemies into fried chicken
toxic oak
man i kinda want a refund now
elder meadow
Man I love that Genade Launcher.
stable vine
Hardest is Vega Central Processing
@noble moat for me hardest level is the final one
except for boss fight part that was easy
cunning trout
What is the best strategy for killing the loud charging demons?
Their butts are a weak point.. so freeze them with the plasma gun and scoot around and cap their asses?
ornate basin
You mean pinkies?
errant bloom
Jump over them or let them run into a wall
elder meadow
Vega is hardest if you do no BFG and no Powerup
Lazarus is hardest if you do use BFG and Powerups
marsh zealot
elder meadow
Pretty much.
orchid prism
@toxic oak there should be a way to refund it through steam I believe
latent plover
you know what i love about the cyberdemon, Tyrant debate
The term "Cyberdemon" does not refer to a particular species of demon. It is simply a term used to describe synthetic demons, and especially those that are nameless.
errant bloom
Doom 2016 had crouching.
Doom Eternal sucks. No crouching.
elder meadow
I accidentally killed myself a few times in DE trying to crouch
little sandal
why would u ever crouch
little sandal
when do you ever need to crouch in the middle of combat
errant bloom
I crouch to assert dominance
errant bloom
Yeah death sentence for the demons. Because chad crouch
Ngl im checking out the mp maps in 2016 and its quite interesting
There are unexplained statues and those weird demon skeletons
Also spaceships. We never see spaceships in both campaigns
little sandal
red flume
Crouching and uncrouching in mid-air with in-flight mobility is the Chaddest way to dodge projectiles
elder meadow
Crouch jump is no longer a thing since 2005
trail narwhal
i m new to doom my platime is now 4hrs i cant pickup some things why?
i cant pickup some green colour rolled thing]
trail narwhal
i can understand how to use somethings i pick up
toxic oak
oh well
i spent so much time trying to fix it that I can't refund it anymore
sad moment
cursive knot
Stuck on Kadingir Sanctum
Won't let me send a screenshot of the level, but its the one where there's a million of the hell knight and the flying angels
Must've died 20 times
harsh lagoon
@cursive knot If you are interested I have a full ultimate level by level tutorial on my youtube channel for 2016. It was designed especially for people who wants to do Ultra Nightmare so the tricks and tips are applicable to any lower difficulty as well. You can check the kadingir Sanctum one and look for the part where you scruggle. I always give a good description of how to approach each fight with which weapon, where to move etc. According to a lot of comments I received, it helps a lot of runners completing their first UN run. It is the deepest tutorial for 2016 around.
elder meadow
my compooter can't handle the beauty of DOOM 2016((
open elm
Yo
elder meadow
@elder meadow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFQIbD1FZHc&feature=emb_title
@elder meadow thanks bro
BUT
my PC wasn't updated inside since 2008
elder meadow
Nah,i was able to run it on Intel HD Graphics
elder meadow
Dear. God.
elder meadow
Possibly gonna go back to Multiplayer to blow up my enemies XD
versed fox
You got an office PC?
true veldt
no thats to powerfull its mcdonalds internet pc
green parrot
no me got a pc that can hold other games but not doom
elder meadow
That sucks
little sandal
use a streaming service if you cant run it then
fleet torrent
Hey, planning to get Doom, but unsure if I should get this game or Eternal because I have a crappy windows laptop. Thanks!
fading trout
I believe doom 2016 can run easier, but you should check the specs of the computer and the recommend specs for the games
flint dune
Yes, start with Doom 2016. Runs easier and the learning curve isn’t as big as Eternal’s which also makes it easier to start with
fleet torrent
Thanks for the help. I'm going to get Doom 2016 tomorrow and learn to play a proper MMO.
elder meadow
It isn't an mmo
high raptor
doom 76 confirmed, were fucked
although id could probably pull that off much better than BGS
dense cliff
Pain Marauder you have peaked my curiosity
little sandal
what are your laptop specs
if its integrated graphics you'll have to play on 540p with dogshit textures
elder meadow
I'll surprise you but all laptops have integrated video cards.
elder meadow
The most expensive maybe.
little sandal
idk much
elder meadow
Intel HD graphix is great,played HL2 with 15 fps on DirectX7.
little sandal
i just saw that 1 video from low spec gamer
red flume
lots of laptops have dedicated GPUs
blazing pivot
doom demo as in playback or recording?
elder meadow
I meant launching it
blazing pivot
doom "demo?"
blazing pivot
so what's the prob?
elder meadow
FATAL ERROR: wglCreateContextAttribsARB failed
elder meadow
That won't fix it
elder meadow
Ok
red flume
that usually means you're below the minimum system reqs
or you're on linux and trying to launch it with OpenGL
elder meadow
Man my hands are aching, having to dodge and shoot while setting up traps is exhausting
lethal dew
Lowkey doom 2016 multiplayer and snapmap was criminally underrated
errant bloom
Ok
soft crest
is it worth it making large scale snap maps anymore? or has it just.. died
noble moat
It’s worth making if you want to play it
high raptor
snapmap had so much potential
warm rune
Snapmap would be good in eternal cuz the community is so friendly
toxic oak
well i kinda fixed the game
I got past the "loading profile" screen
but now my mouse isn't working
bruh
silk forge
hey so I've had this question on my mind for a long time ever since I heard this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j05hzwQf8pA where the hell does this play?
The only time I've ever heard jut a little bit of it is in the Rune Trials but that's only the first few seconds replayed over and over
other than that I haven't heard a single bit of this song ingame
high raptor
iirc it’s the menu music for the multiplayer beta
sad that it wasn’t used in the final game
it’s a banger
elder meadow
@silk forge This track plays in the elevator at the very beginning of the game.
silk forge
Nah it doesn't. That's the other "At Doom's Gate"
scarlet dove
candid cobalt
i uploaded some little gameplay of doom 2016 if u guys wanna check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJuNb_adyTQ
clear beacon
elder meadow
the game crashed like 5 times first time starting it up but the rest of the game is okay
ornate basin
I don’t know how to help but I love your profile picture
frozen frost
anyone know which song from the soundtrack is essentially a remix of the original doom song?
uncut trout
At doom's gate
misty shadow
I'll tell ya something, Harbinger has a bit of an integration from Doom 3
sick username dude
elder meadow
Harbinger sounds like a remix of Doom 3 menu ost
late scroll
It is. Very cleverly rearranged so as to not be the same theme legally speaking. But it has all the same elements as D3's theme
elder meadow
Mastermind sounds like a remix of BFG Division
Gotta admit that what they did for the Cacodemon in Multiplayer, you won’t see in the Campaign, that instant kill tongue skewer, if that were to ever happen, it’ll be difficult to kill them in Campaign
misty shadow
Hella fun time guaranteed
But that means we have to be careful with chainsawing them for ammo
elder meadow
noble moat
Assuming you can use a Caco they have to remove the instakill caco grenade too
elder meadow
Though playing as the Pinky to get metallic black armor but will main the Cacodemon again after I get that colored Armor even if it takes me all night XD, though tbh, both of the playable Pinky’s attacks are instakills a Glory Bite and the Bullrush
But I will forever favor the Cacodemon in Multiplayer, killed 10 enemies with 1 transformation with it one time
elder meadow
Though in fairness, the Pinky can’t fly and is more vulnerable if the charge misses, attacks from behind or if players are using power hunting runes, which makes them see the Pinky even when it is invisible
elder meadow
Specter is op in multiplayer
Cacodemon is more useful on vertical map
I call it Pinky since it was the original name, but yeah it’s best to have it as an ally than an enemy, the easiest one for me to kill is the Mancubus, keep my distance while shooting at it, I take advantage of the Mancubus’s terrible speed
red flume
What's the difference between Nightmare and UN arcade? Is it just an extra enemy queued into the fight (so 5 demons attacking instead of 4 or w/e the numbers are)?
elder meadow
I didn't noticed any difference in Arcade mode tho
Each version has their own way of intensity it seems
elder meadow
Though for the demons if we were to rank the demons from worst to best, where would they be ranked and why?
noble moat
Hmmm
flint dune
@red flume Nothing changes, I’m pretty sure the only difference is that you won’t earn anything at the end of the run if you die. The rankings also require more xp and multiplier is greater too
noble moat
From best to worst
HellKnights
Barons
Summoner
Revenant
Pinky
Caco
Cybermanc
Manc
Razer
Imp
Solider
Shield
Possessed
flint dune
Is that in terms of annoyance or just appearance
noble moat
In terms of combat
HellKnights feel like the perfect mix of a medium difficulty monster. Fast. Pressure. Hard hitting. Not the strongest demon. But it keeps you on your toes non stop
Baron is like a hellknight with more health and now ranged attacks. A true menace
elder meadow
I meant the Multiplayer ones XD
noble moat
Fine I’ll do those next
elder meadow
Which there are only 7
noble moat
Summoner is strong hitting, zips around. Nice visible ranged attacks
Rev ranged cool enemy
Pinky stupid cow I like it
Caco ugly hope they all die
Manc kinda fat just sits there
Cyber manc tons of hp. Ok I guess
And the fodder
Ok so for multiplayer
Worst is prowler hands down. So weak. And kinda slow attack speed
Next is baron. Massive target. Kinda slow. Easy to get free hits in
autumn prism
Ha no summoner is a wimp