Its 75 ? I always see 70
#doom-2016
blissful imp
blissful imp
I think zombies does 40/50 when hitting
noble moat
60
blissful imp
Classic level is so hard in 2016
No
I think its intentional
Like in the level 3 ?
noble moat
It won’t spawn hell knights if you back track no
willow orbit
You I just got doom 2016 is it good
noble moat
If you just got it, play it and find out
blissful imp
In level 3 Tho, its a bug ? Because when i'm backtraning it spawn 1/2 hell knight
willow orbit
Its downloding
blissful imp
Yeah, don't come here now its very spoily
noble moat
I think there is some sort of hell knight spawn bug. Because sometimes yeah it appears when I’m about to enter the Fans
willow orbit
Ok thx bye
blissful imp
Bye
noble moat
It actually comes from the area with the Second Collectible
blissful imp
Yeah me it happen when you go at the Yellow Door
blissful imp
There is some level that backtracing is impossible
some
Yeah
I love the lore behind power-up
Like the Argent Mega-health, the demonic quad damage etc etc
blissful imp
Worst level in doom 2016 is the last
buoyant elbow
as a 25 year doom veteran.. doom 2016 > eternal
eternal was good, but 2016 way better
anyone else feel me?
steel crystal
Why am I only now noticing the exposed intestines of the Revenant?
unborn tapir
The Revenant is honestly a joke in the campaign in Doom 2016
He’s not very threatening
empty fern
Yeah, he doesn't do anything lol
ruby mango
@buoyant elbow I'm not a doom vet or anything but yeah, I enjoy 2016 more. I wasn't sure if it was just nostalgia but I can say for certain after replaying a couple of 2016 levels that I had more fun there
Also Necropolis is one of my favorite levels. The arenas are smaller but given the relatively low health of the demons in this game it never felt too small for me
empty fern
Doom 2016 used to be my favorite game, but Eternal just blew it out of the water for me.
@ruby mango Do you know what it is you prefer about 2016? I'm curious.
ruby mango
Yeah there are a few things. Your DPS in 2016 is much higher, so demons don't stay on the screen more than a few seconds each. I prefer that to having to deal with stuff like marauder, doom hunter, etc.
The movement flows super well, and while dashing is a fun mechanic I actually prefer the simplicity of 2016's elegant movement without a dashing mechanic
There are less hitches in the combat (getting stagger-locked by demons in Eternal is super common). I don't have to spend time searching the entire arena for the token enemy that costs 1 chainsaw ammo every 30 seconds
There is more but this is already getting kinda long
@empty fern
clever geyser
unrelated, but i just bought doom 2016 again on digital after loosing the physical copy with pre-order bonuses almost three years ago
empty fern
Interesting.
I'm kinda opposite.
I hated the fact that I could pretty much instantly delete most demons in 2016. The more I played the more boring it became as I kept defaulting to the same couple guns and cookie cutter combos.
Yes, I could have played in a more fun way, I suppose, but not really viable on UN lol.
Although I do agree the marauder specifically kills pacing. Love the Doom Hunter tho.
While I appreciate the simplicity of 2016's movement, I just can't go back after getting dash and meathook tbh.
While I do agree that you can get stagger locked in Eternal, it's usually the player's fault (in my experience), and I think it's more a result of the fact that most demons actually present a threat in Eternal, and actively pursue the player, while in 2016 half the roster felt like punching bags.
And the chainsaw thing never bothered me, as I'm constantly glory killing stuff anyways, and it completely solved my issues of repetitive weapon usage with the last game.
I just thought it would be interesting to hear another perspective. Thanks for sharing! @ruby mango
(Sorry for text wall)
ruby mango
Ah np about text wall. Yea I do miss the meathook ngl. Not dash though. The stagger lock is the player's fault but it's still not a fun mechanic to me. Eternal is way harder no question. Sometimes I prefer the added challenge, sometimes I just like to cakewalk through demons. I have 500 hours in 2016 so I did a lot of cakewalking lol.
The things about 2 weapons is something that I never found myself falling into since the most efficient way to kill most heavy demons typically involved 4 guns
Weapon switching in 2016 was faster than Eternal and that's something I definitely appreciate when it comes to those quick swaps mid-demon. Made the combat a lot more enjoyable for me whereas in Eternal it can feel slightly clunky and notably delayed
empty fern
Is the switching in Eternal slower? I didn't really notice tbh.
And yeah the constant weapon combos in 2016 got really stale for me, of course I got 238 hours in before I really got sick of it lol. There's still plenty of that in Eternal (which is good, I don't want it gone completely), but I feel like there's more options than using these exact few buttons to delete this exact demon every time.
I can say the only things I really miss from 2016 was the faster base movement speed and the bosses (although the Eternal bosses are growing on me).
Also 2016 had balance issues across the board that made me feel like I had to handicap myself to have fun or any challenge at all.
ruby mango
I can't not notice how much slower it is in Eternal. Sometimes I'm trying to weapon shuffle and I'm going at my 2016 speed from muscle memory. It literally just stops taking out the guns at some point because it's so far behind.
Balance issues like weapon balance? They did a much better job with Eternal there for sure
clever geyser
I’ve never understood the “weapon balance” thing they did, like I thought the point of DOOM was to kill demons in any way you saw fit?
empty fern
Balance of everything tbh.
Half the weapon mods were useless.
Campaign continually got easier and easier starting at the first level in hell.
Half the roster of enemies is a joke (lookin' at you, Revenant). One of the most dangerous enemies is imps
A couple runes bordered on being game breaking.
Chainsaw was just a win button that I use on barons so I don't have to pump all my ammo into them. (Also summoners cuz fuck summoners they can die in a fire.)
BFG ammo was handed out like candy on Halloween.
ruby mango
None of that really diminished my fun though
Especially the runes, assuming you mean Rich Get Richer and Equipment Power. Those are hella fun
empty fern
I never used em cuz it felt like a free win (except on my successful UN run cuz I was literally rushing to beat it the night before Eternal came out lmao)
ruby mango
I do wish In-Flight Mobility and its equivalent in Eternal Air Control were just the default aerial control option but oh well
Tbh nothing more fun than a RGR run for me lol but yeah I get where you're coming from
The real game breaking mechanic for me was the DKSMS, even I won't use that. Too strong
empty fern
You know what I love about Eternal more than anything tho?
It has cutscenes (which I love btw), but you can skip 'em.
Ya know what ya can't skip in 2016?
Samuel fucking Hayden locking you into a room to talk about argent energy and hell and shit for two straight minutes
ruby mango
Oh yeah I don't replay those missions
I don't like that some cutscenes in Eternal are unskippable even if short and there are a lot of them, but it's such a minor gripe I honestly don't really care that much
My preference for 2016 comes from the combat loop and that's about it
The music too but it's like comparing my favorite soundtrack ever to one in my top 5... splitting hairs
empty fern
I prefer Eternal's combat, but I really do see what sticks with some people about the simplicity of 2016.
Music tho? I think Eternal kicks 2016's ass. Imo, 2016 had a few standout tracks (which everyone knows the name of lol), but in Eternal it feels like the entire game is the standout track.
ruby mango
Eh I can't really see the argument for Eternal's music being better than 2016's. The whole 2016 OST kicks ass and BFG Division and Rip & Tear sit so far above anything in Eternal. It's subjective though so I don't really need to in order to understand that you prefer Eternal's -- and yeah Eternal has a fantastic OST
It'll be easier to compare when Mick releases the official OST
empty fern
Yeah, I can't wait to get my hands on that sweet soundtrack.
Also I'm gonna get crucified for this but I think BFG Division is a bit overrated.
It's still fucking KILLER tho, don't get me wrong.
RIp and tear is definitely the best track from 2016 imo.
ruby mango
I don't think you'll be crucified for having an opinion on a song but well it's the internet so maybe
empty fern
It's the internet. Opinions aren't allowed lol.
Also, it has nothing to do with the actual soundtrack, but Eternal gets brownie points for being able to play music in the hub and Ripatorium.
ruby mango
I enjoyed collecting some of the standout soundtracks from older games too
empty fern
Also I never played Doom 3 so I never realized that its theme is such a banger lol
ruby mango
If you can't return to 2016 after playing Eternal, you definitely aren't missing out with Doom 3
Personally never finished 3, I get scared easy and I wasn't having fun lol
empty fern
Yeah, I don't plan on actually playing it unless I play every Doom game or something like that.
Still like the theme tho lol.
crude hinge
Doom 3 is very different to the others, it's definitely a game of it's era. It's no fast paced monster basher lol. I loved it when it came out but it's aged pretty badly.
That's the problem with a lot of 3d games from early to mid 2000s though I guess
I've found Doom 2016 to just be a more coherent 'whole' than eternal is. Its a more linear and joined up game imo.
That said, I love eternal as well, and they couldn't have done a lot of what they have done in Eternal without having made and learned from 2016
empty fern
2016 was more coherent, but Eternal also did a LOT more.
It's hard NOT to be coherent when your two settings are red and Mars base
crude hinge
True true
Presentation-wise, it felt like quake 2 / quake 4 had a lovechild with Doom 2016.
All the angular / digital style UI elements
spiral axle
Fuck assists
elder meadow
doom 2016's color palette is red, green, depression, dark red, blood, piss and green
hasty jasper
I think both games have its up and downs respectively, 2016 had a problem with platformimg being so repetitive after like the 6th mission, but eternal has some problems on its own
elder meadow
^^
hasty jasper
I feel like a lot of people can like doom eternal and the same amount can’t, which is crazy to think about
elder meadow
eternal would be damn near perfect if there was ammo in the game
hasty jasper
Trueeee
elder meadow
it's always bad when there's a heavy enemy that you can't chainsaw and that's the only enemy and you don't have ammo
like what are you supposed to do in that situation?
hasty jasper
📠
elder meadow
flame belch it to death?
hasty jasper
Dude I honestly I know what you mean, I would be running out of ammo and I have no other small enemies to chainsaw
hasty jasper
I also love how you can connect your slayer account to it, and it seems like it’s gonna add things for being part of the community which is awesome, I hope they add like levels as events or something
elder meadow
Who wants to play Doom with me? He writes m
hasty jasper
Yeah but some people thought that was a problem for that game
elder meadow
which doom?
hasty jasper
Doom 2016
elder meadow
i assume 2016
hasty jasper
Like literally you could spam super shot gun and combat shotgun in that game
elder meadow
there was no need to use any other weapon
doom eternal is easy, but unfair
but i still love it all the way to hell (pun intended)
hasty jasper
Idk if I’m bad or cuz I’m using a controller to play on my ps4 but I think it’s a lot harder 💀
I think it’s cuz I’m using controller cuz I can do a lot better with mouse and keyboard
elder meadow
controller is both easier and harder
i play with both depending on how i'm feeling
i play destiny 2 on controller exclusively, even though i don't have an xbox
or a ps4
hasty jasper
Yeah I know, I feel like mobility with controller is a lot better but my aim is wack when I wanna kill a spider boi
elder meadow
those weak point showcases make it look easy
elder meadow
in practice you're both moving at a very high speed
hasty jasper
Yeah, also I have a problem with not knowing where the hell im at when I’m at like 20 health
My screen is so red and all blurry so ligit blind
elder meadow
really doesn't help that my computer is terrible and runs the game at 20 fps
on a good day
hasty jasper
Yeah lol, I remember at the beginning of the game It was a hard transition from 2016 to eternal cuz I was expecting to beable to fight in close combat but when you do you get messed up bad
Also punching does almost nothing, when before on 2016 you just need two punches on an imp to make him stagger
hasty jasper
Yeah I know
I wish I can play it on hardcore mode(the hard mode of the game) but I’m so bad I gotta go to hurt me plenty just to play and I still dye 😭
elder meadow
"the mighty doom slayer"
running around like a headless chicken trying to find bullets while 7 pinkies are chasing the fuck out of you
hasty jasper
Facts 💀
hasty jasper
Yeah it’s so good when you actually clap cheeks in doom eternal it’s very satisfying
I just don’t like when people are really ragging on eternal from 2016 POV, when I booted up the game I instantly knew it’s not gonna be the same as the old game
elder meadow
it has changed, and mostly for the better
blissful imp
I'm addicted to doom 2016 mp since i know that i can play with other regions
With 0 lag
elder meadow
I just noticed the unwilling have two eye sockets while the possessed have only one 
Kinda odd considering the unwilling are more fucked than the possessed
blissful imp
The possessed in low poly have 2 eye
I saw this in Switch ver. I was too fast and i glory killed a Possesed and i see 2 low poly eye
elder meadow
Bruh
flint dune
Little late to the conversation, but in my opinion the main problem with Eternal is how disconnected it feels from 2016, they don’t feel or look the same to be completely honest. It’s not really a problem I have with it, but I can see where a lot of the hate for Eternal is coming from. I would have preferred it to stay a little more simple like 2016, that’s really my only suggestion.
west spade
the complexity is great tho
flint dune
I’m not saying it’s bad at all, I love the “complex” combat loop Eternal has, hell I prefer Eternal over 2016. Basically the Developers wanted to make sure the game didn’t get too repetitive so they added in a lot of undercooked ideas like the buff totems and purple sludge.
Those things aren’t needed in a game like Doom, I like that 2016 didn’t do that and I just wish Eternal didn’t either. That’s all I’m saying. Complexity is great but only to a certain degree, Eternal just adds too many ideas with not the best execution.
Including some platform puzzles and shootable buttons, I get its supposed to be sort of like Doom 2/64 with that but it just doesn’t fit imo (sorry for the block of text)
elder meadow
is there a single room where they put more than 7 enemies at you at once in 2016
noble moat
Almost every?
flint dune
Yes...like even the first arena throws about 15 imps at you lol
stiff pagoda
Its "missing 2016 mancubus design" hours rn
spiral axle
Is there a mp mode without demons
turbid ore
I don’t really like DOOM ETERNAL and I prefer DOOM especially because the Possesed are now zombies and aren’t two hits with melee you now have to shoot them with the shotgun and where is the dang pistol with infinite ammo
but the story is good so I’m going to stick it out
robust sedge
tbh i hated that you could even upgrade the pistol, i'm glad they give you a chainsaw with a recharge, i just wish they kept the siphon grenade, that thing saved my life during boss fights
turbid ore
What did the siphon grenade even do because personally I never used it I did as the game instructs and Shoot it till it dies
robust sedge
it drained health and restored your health so you could throw it at a group of enemies and get a free 50 health without risking getting close
turbid ore
Never used it
lyric fulcrum
Use Siphon and the upgraded equipment room and you also get armor
I love both games I wish they added traditional tdm on DOOM ETERNAL
elder meadow
i used mostly syphon and it helped a lot mid nightmare run
lyric fulcrum
Gonna replay 2016 when I have more space
elder meadow
it really is a big file
lyric fulcrum
I play on Playstation. But I have like 20 other games installed. Might just delete some. I miss snapmaps and mp. Those modes were highly underrated.
elder meadow
me too(ps), i bought an external ssd of 1TB, it helps
all my doom games on it
snap map and mp really are underrated, they have improved so much too
i prefer 2016's mp over battlemode
lyric fulcrum
Battlemode is good in it's own right. But making snapmaps and playing them was. The cards seemed stacked against DOOM 2016. Idk why the media was biased against it.
karmic flax
It’s really sad how much undeserved hate snapmap got
Wasn’t perfect but people were absurd
lyric fulcrum
It was really fun with the maps people put out, I wish I gotten better at making maps.
karmic flax
Ye same
lyric fulcrum
ID is god tier game studio
gloomy mantle
I haven't found many good snapmaps, I keep running into ones where they disable health on glory kills, take away my chainsaw, and throw me in a room with at least 15 mancubi
I wish I was exaggerating
gloomy mantle
I'm open to suggestions of good snapmaps I just haven't found yet, haven't spent a huge amount of time looking so far
modern marsh
anyone want to run sum multiplayer I just got doom 2016
elder meadow
sure
modern marsh
ok add me at TheGodlyNoodle on steam
elder meadow
but i advise you to play the campaign before playing multuplayer
at least get to hell or sth
the campaign explains a lot
modern marsh
I played some of the campaign back when the game first came out on switch
gray mason
Anyone playing doom 2016 on switch online? Can never find a single match since the 8 months that I've got it
blissful imp
Grundy are you European ?
gray mason
Yes
gray mason
@blissful imp how change?
blissful imp
Because i see nobody on switch, as a european
gray mason
@blissful imp how can I change to USA server?
gray mason
@blissful imp thanks its the X. Looking for match now
gray mason
@blissful imp it didn't find any match
blissful imp
Hmmm
gray mason
Also I deffinetly don't have a good intrnet
blissful imp
Hah
Weird, maybe its because its the debut of the week
I can assure you, yesterday i have played with people
gray mason
Yeah I don't know. Will try again some other time or later today. Thanks though :)
limpid salmon
Anyone wanna play
modern marsh
@limpid salmon I want to add me at TheGodlyNoodle
@limpid salmon what do you play on
blissful imp
I'm Playing Nightmare like the old doom, nothing but Hud and classic aim (no reticule)
noble moat
I play on switch
If you want to get technical, obviously the game plays better on PC,
However I have no issues beating nightmare handheld at 30fps
noble moat
My only suggestion however is don’t buy it on switch
It’s $60
But for $60 you can buy eternal on switch,
Same price, but upgraded in every way, only thing is we still have to wait for eternal
blissful imp
Yeah
ashen parcel
hey guys, i have a problem with my doom savestate on steam
so i just played the first two missions and closed the game as it is supposed to be done. when i came back later and wanted to continue, the game told me that the savestate is damaged. so i started the story all over again and it happened again. anyone know how to fix this problem ? i actually dont want to always have to replay the whole thing
gloomy mantle
i found a snapmap that gave me a twinky and now i have an ability called "Deploy Twinky"
amazing
modern marsh
anyone want to play doom 2016 I am on pc same username
spiral thunder
i really want to get this game but the 80gb download i dont like
i dont even know if i can run the game, im downloading the demo now
if i can get a consistent 60fps im good
modern marsh
the game is 51gb on computer
spiral thunder
i thought it was 80gb to download on steam tho
spiral thunder
still way to much for me tho
finally installed
So uhhh
Its essentially softlocked my pc i cant do shit
I assume the main menu is in engine
And the fps is so horrendous i cant do anything
I didnt know it would be this fucking bad
blissful imp
Woah
spiral thunder
Im gonna have to fucking reboot my pc
Cool
forget lowering the settings
Cant get to the settings if the game fucking dies in the menu
how do i change the resolution outside of the game
does the game have launch options
blissful imp
NVIDIA ?
spiral thunder
no
spiral thunder
think the shittiest pc ever
thats like just a monitor
and the pc is in the monitor
basically a laptop but its also a pc
blissful imp
I see
spiral thunder
Managed to lower the resolution
Still holding my pc hostage, just gotta wait for the cursor to move
Hwo do i change the aspect ratio to 4:3
blissful imp
Idk, i'm not on Pc version, i think it is on Game or Video settings
spiral thunder
So even at the lowest resolution possible it still fucking dies
Neat
Welp guess im never playing this game because i literally cant
blissful imp
Console version ?
elder meadow
I think you should be able to change it in the resolution part of the settings app? Not too sure
blissful imp
I love the MP maps, even if you are a noob you can easily travel in
blissful imp
I hope when DE switch release, people plays more mp
noble moat
The Battlemode for sure
The issue is the cost of online, few Nintendo users will pay for online
Yes it’s “only $20”
But that’s $20 more than we’ve been spending for the last 6+ years
latent linden
I found an Easter egg while playing doom and thought It was pretty neat
gloomy mantle
FUcking thank you bob
spiral thunder
help how the fuck do i lower the quality settings without booting the game up
this is fucking ridiculous
it keeps on freezing
i cant find anything on this
how the fuck do i lower it so the main menu doesn't fucking die
elder meadow
Launch it in safe mode
celest idol
Love the feeling of OOps accidentally BFG'd you sorry
Oops accidentally got another charge sorry
Oops accidentally BFG'd again sorry
Oops another free charge sorry again
elder meadow
In the youtube videos of the music, there had been a Doot Renevant as an easter egg.
And now, in Doom Eternal, it was a skin.
elder meadow
Was the ost for E2M1 reimagined in doom 2016?
blissful imp
A lots of Original Ost is in Doom 2016, so maybe yes
copper zodiac
Yeah if you listen carefully almost every song has been remixed in
Usually in tempo beats but some or more obvious
elder meadow
So regarding PS4 trophies, can you do the Multiplayer ones in private matches? Also is that games Multiplayer active enough to ply the MP for trophy cleanup?
versed fox
I swear one of the combat songs is reminiscent of Untitled from Doom 1. (E2M9 & E3M1)
late crescent
@elder meadow I readed in someplaces that Private don't count, but today, i saw the completionist and he did it with help, which i presume, he must have done on a private game. But now, i really don't know, i know that is near impossible to do, the gold medal in a "find a match". Because is the same "green 50" and they can shoot you in the moment you show your face haha It's Xaero on Quake 3 all over again haha
elder meadow
@late crescent Danke. And what’s the green 50
Anyone confirm pvt lobby does or doesn’t count?
late crescent
@elder meadow The tag, i don't remember, i think it's call echelons
full tinsel
is it just me or does doom 2016 feel so slow now
late crescent
Yes. But i don't know for sure, i reared some people talking that they "start" another Run, and they were low lvl, lower -then me-. But away faster then some "green"'s hehe
spiral axle
Look, i get they want me to preform 15 quick switches consecutively on a baron, perfectly activate the bird surf emote 3 frames after, and spread my cheeks irl to unlock the tan weapon skin because haha plasma gun tan
spiral axle
The reaper is alive right?
meager hearth
spiral axle
If the "head" of the reaper is facing you, that makes the barrel its...
blissful imp
Wa
spark tundra
Playing Eternal for a long time now i came to the conclusion that i like 2016 better
Eternal is a solid and fun af game but i still prefer 2016
flint dune
Fair. I lean more towards Eternal, but I’m mostly torn between both. They’re both great games in their respective ways, though I think Eternal has more flaws than 2016 which is weird because I still seem to have a lot of fun with it.
empty fern
I think the thing is Eternal has more flaws because it's so much more ambitious.
Like, in hindsight 2016 played it pretty safe. Kept it simple.
And 2016 definitely still has its issues.
||Why don't you step into my office so I can spew exposition about it||
elder meadow
I can't play 2016 after Eternal
I just can't, it feels wrong
Where's my tools, where's my dash?
minor talon
I get tht but the more gritty style and still extremely fun gameplay of '16 brings me back to it. Eternal is my favorite video game of all time tho
elder meadow
Heh.
laughs in very obscure game being my favorite
elder meadow
I love all the doom games, 2016 included but yeah eternal is still my fav by far
elder meadow
I thought I loved 2016 but I can't go back to it anymore. The levels seem so dull to me now, I can't pick one to play because they feel like a chore. With eternal, I can't pick one to play because I loved them all sooo much.
To be fair, maybe I played 2016 waaayyy to much and burned myself out. Eternal still feels fresh and varied
thick heart
i've been on 2016 more cause i made the mistake of getting eternal on console and i'm more comfortable playing games on laptop
blazing pivot
try playing 2016 on console lol
spark tundra
I pretty much got burnt out by Eternal at this point
noble moat
It’s been like 2 weeks
spark tundra
I played it almost everyday for 2 weeks now
Will replay it again once the outbreak is over and i get my new pc parts
cyan spire
So, I tried the Arcade Mode because i realized i was talking about it yesterday on another server and i hadn't actually played it.
elder meadow
does it feel like a NewGame+ mode or is it more than that
cyan spire
It's not NG+.
The only thing i can really say about it is playing it doesn't really feel like playing Doom. To get any decent amount of points there are a lot of times where you kinda just have to herd the demons together so you can kill them all really quickly. Also, the burst fire on the shotgun is practically mandatory
I feel like how quickly you're killing demons and getting through the level isn't really that big of a factor in this, and it really should be.
blissful imp
Its more like a "kill and run" mode
cyan spire
not really
I'd say playing Doom regularly is more like that than Arcade Mode is.
like seriously look at any world record score run on Arcade mode, they're all really slow, and i appreciate that there's effort being put into this, it just seems like a really irritating way to play the game.
noble moat
Actually most of those world records are hacked
cyan spire
I don't think the ones that actually have videos are hacked
Like this Titan's Realm run.
granted this is XB1, i think
noble moat
Ah that probably explains it
cyan spire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZdOq-zdpns here's a run that's not done on console.
at least i don't think it was.
Also, if someone could explain to me why he's shooting holograms so much in this, i'd like to know
oh no wait that's not even the run i was thinking of
same level tho
but yeah if someone can tell me why he's shooting holograms so much in this i'd like to know
cyan spire
I feel like having the multiplier go up based on damage and not actually killing things was a mistake
blissful imp
Kadingir sactum is pain
noble moat
Man your telling me
That’s the farthest I’ve gotten to on every run I’ve done so far
On switch btw
noble moat
I forgot which level I get the siphon grenades at, but that’s when My run finally becomes a victory though, since siphon grenades OP
blissful imp
The Necropolis i think
noble moat
Lazarus labs just googled it,
blissful imp
I always get in necropolis, i wonder why
Lazarus labs is just after Argent Facility (Destroyed)
Good luck for pinkies
noble moat
Dam that’s 2 levels away
Oh I’m taking no risks this time, Imma stun bomb every pink first screw that
I won’t be using rich get richer rune tho
blissful imp
Pinkies when they hit you ? Its ~90hp i think ?
noble moat
Something like that yeah, and sometimes they can bite right after for like another 50 or something
blissful imp
And Lazarus Labs is a two in one Level
I think Baron do like, ~100 per Flame balls ?
noble moat
They evillll
I’m taking no chances with them either, siege stun rocket spam all the way
blissful imp
BFG in two levels
noble moat
I don’t like using the BFG, but Imma have to accept that I need it at certain parts
blissful imp
BFG with More ammo is so cool, you can litteraly shot one time and get 2 BFG ammo
Most Stressful part is boss maybe, or do the BFG bug
Work on switch but it is very bad
spiral axle
I feel like this game is one track, and it bewnewnew bewnewnew bewnewnew wo wo wo wowowo
elder meadow
Doom Enteral ready war video fun game.
thorn whale
I just finished d2016 after doom eternal, I really liked it as well
The difference in playstyle/weapon choice is pretty fun
I especially liked the gaus cannon's siege mode, felt strong aswell
The campaign is way shorter compared to eternals' right?
thorn whale
Do you plan on playing eternal in the future?
thorn whale
Alrighty
spiral axle
Do you have any other console?
blissful imp
And the same amount of map i think
noble moat
Eternal also has the future dlc and more master levels to consider too
Yeah same maps, longer maps
thorn whale
On secondary playthroughs the ratio is even larger I think
blissful imp
Yeah, Eternal with downloadable campaign but, on nintendo switch, how we can do that lol, ththat will cost a lots of space
latent linden
Hey I’m having a weird issue with a level if someone could help me out it’d be appreciated
noble moat
You do realize plenty of switch games have dlc right?
latent linden
I figured it out lol was just a weird glitch
half talon
Never mind that Eternal is SMALLER than 2016 - which is already on Switch.
noble moat
Doom on switch is 22gb I believe
So eternal is easily 18-20gb
And each DLC can’t be more than 1-2 gb each on there
noble moat
Destroyed argent facility is a much smaller map than I remembered
noble moat
Advanced research complex.
Breathes in
Breathe out
Bullshet
That’s it I quit,
The first 5 levels of 2016 just are not fun to play
It takes too long to get fun to constantly try these UN runs
I really hope eternal starts out fun right away,
elder meadow
Is there a way I can disguise myself as a demon and get the Doomslayer to come to my house
cyan spire
If Doom Eternal gets an Arcade Mode, can the score multiplier PLEASE be based on actually killing things and not just dealing damage? Like, I feel like player speed and accuracy should’ve been factors in 2016’s Arcade Mode, but they weren’t.
I realize I’m talking about that in the 2016 chat but dammit most of my complaining about Arcade is in here already.
tawny gull
Yo doe anyone play doom on switch?
Does*
Men I see no one on the multiplayer ever ouf
blissful imp
American server in the end of the afternoon or week-end
tawny gull
Uf
thorn whale
I played d2016 after deternal, first playthrough on NM, I died twice on the last mission by clipping through the floor during berserk lol, hopefully that won't happen on UN
d2016 definitely feels a bit more unstable compared to eternal, but I really liked it as well
blissful imp
Its not just you
Yeah
Because without his armor he is weak
Pretty sure the Armor in eternal is because in 2 yeah he had changed
Technicaly, yes
mystic seal
doom 2016 does not detect any graphics card so i can't play
elder meadow
DOOM 2016 does not run on my shitty pc so i cant play
elder meadow
How do I avoid the barrage, the slicey thing on the ground and the laser beam from the cyberdemon all at once on nightmare
It was one shot away from dying three times before killing me
You know what, how do I avoid the laser beam regardless of whether there's a barrage or not
It locks on to me and I can't avoid it
flint dune
It predicts your strafe pattern. You can avoid it by changing direction right before it fires.
noble moat
Also you can do artificial Gauss dashing
Bunny hop left or right and shoot the gauss in the opposite jumping direction, will let you go far and avoid his charge and his lazer
elder meadow
Every time I try to do this with the gauss I get myself killed
marble badge
Bad mod suggestion: it's the exact same, but Doomguy headbangs in time with the music. It only affects character model, not the camera, he just. headbangs.
sage patio
noble moat
It’s called Nightmare for a reason
worldly magnet
vagrant cave
I mean imps can oneshot you from full health at the start of the game
flint dune
Hah, what about CyberDemon’s laser. Legit 1 shot on Nightmare with 200 HP or at least nearly
ruby stratus
ik i havent played 2016 in a long ass time
flint dune
I’ve burned myself out on it
half talon
There are a lot of attacks in Nightmare that exceed the insta-kill limit.
ruby stratus
eternal is so much forgiving
flint dune
It really is. You’ll notice when you’re super low you typically have 5 HP, I think it’s intended. In Eternal
half talon
Basically the game's equivalent of a Magic Pixel.
flint dune
2016 was like nope, you’re dead, start over
hollow warren
I enjoyed 2016. Id get it again but wish theyre was some unlocks for Eternal from it
ruby stratus
enemies one shot you hella more in 2016, mobility is really inferior, you can only find armor off pickups
and splash damage is way more noticable
but it compensates for ammo and more bfg ammo
noble moat
Imps can’t one shot you from start of game, but they can get close
ruby stratus
45 health
noble moat
A fully charged imp ball does 75
You start with 100
vagrant cave
pretty sure you can't be oneshot from high health in eternal unless the game bugs out
ruby stratus
if you do thes alot of ways to get health back not from just staggering an imp or zombie
compared to 2016
vagrant cave
also didn't know charged balls did 75, probably got clipped by something else right before those times then
ruby stratus
i thought it was 45 damn wtf
noble moat
Nah fully charged is 75
I think the tiny ones do 45
flint dune
I think you’re right. You can’t get one shot in Eternal with Full Hp, you automatically get set to 5
vagrant cave
I have seen DraQu get instantly blown up for 110 once, tho
but from experience it looks like that shouldn't happen
flint dune
Yeah, because every time I’m low in Eternal, I’m 5 Hp
2016 really had no safety bars, you screw up you’d pay for it
ruby stratus
i honestly like the gameplay better in eternal but environments n stuff goes to 2016 and the traversing
since eternal has mario like obstacles and 2016s obstacles are actually blended into the envronment
but gameplay is somewhat more challenging on a balanced level in eternal instead of the game being like ha fuck you when you make one mistake
flint dune
^ Agreed, although I think the environments are gorgeous. It’s just the interior level design that’s bland to me
ruby stratus
so i have more respect for people who beat ultra nightmare in 2016 then eternal
flint dune
Eternal seems less gritty which is what I don’t like. That’s the main problem for me
ruby stratus
eternals aesthetics are beautiful dont get me wrong but i think hell looks better in 2016 and the pickups are forced to be arcade like
although i like the throwback to classics
i just wish they combined the demon looks from every game
so 2016 mancubus you can also see a doom 2 mancubus
flint dune
That’d be interesting
ruby stratus
theres this one mod called META Doom for the classic that combines every good aspect from 1-2016
flint dune
The only demon designs I prefer in 2016 are the Revenant and Baron
ruby stratus
yeah true
flint dune
Also that’s cool, I’ll have to check that out
ruby stratus
but the barons are different lore wisse also
so with the hell knightss the gladiator bossfight is the hellknight from doom 1
flint dune
Yeah. I just wish the Fire things on the Barons for Eternal were actually used. Like what’s the point?
ruby stratus
idk i feel like im complaining too much with 2016 because of how spoiled i am with eternals polishing
like everything they did right with 2016 they made so much better and more fast paced
flint dune
I think they’re both amazing games. Eternal gameplay over 2016’s, but 2016 beats Eternal in tone, Boss fights and aesthetics
ruby stratus
but with 2016 now i feel like im just going on autopilot playing the game
bossfights are a joke in both games lol
flint dune
True lol
ruby stratus
weapon switching dksmb melts all of them
flint dune
Cyberdemon and Gladiator are really fun though, for me at least
ruby stratus
Yeah those are fun
flint dune
I wish I could weapon switch a lot but I’m on console sadly
ruby stratus
Ha imagine
lyric bloom
Is chaingun and super shotgun the deathmatch meta
noble moat
Ssg sg
harsh relic
I use sg and rifle
So I have good damage at any range
Or ssg and rifle
Either is fine
blissful imp
Me Reaper and MK.5
lyric bloom
I use ssg and either lightning gun or chaingun
I saw alot of people used chaingun so i tried it out
Turns out it was pretty good
blissful imp
Reaper is so good, it can shot 6×6 or 10×6 and a shot of 50/75
lone patio
Anyone of you lads fancy some mp? I'm searching for matches but can't find any, I'm on Europe, TDM.
lone patio
Yeah... I kinda figured that out, but thanks for the tip, much appreciated.
I only need 2 more lads, then I'm able to start a match, anyone keen for some tdm?
elder meadow
Does anyone remember that trip monitor in the train area? I can't remember which mission it was, but it was a screen with the date and time of 5 trips
The first 3 where doom 1,2,3 with the date having something similar to the actual years they were released in
And the 4th one was doom 2016, the last one didn't show the full date but it was implied that it's doom 5 (eternal)
Just wanted to see that pic again. Anyone has it?
blissful imp
Yeah, a Speedrunner said that if the game wont let you go in the second level, you wont.
I Think its Byteme
Yeah
The 5 first level is pain
stable musk
Hello?
blissful imp
Did you restart your game ? But wtf is that
Look like they tought you have cheated
Yeah
Hah, what did you use ?
Its was intended to be a mod than a "illegal"tool ?
Pretty sure there is a """Legal""" mod for that
Or Maybe its normal ? To prevent mod on MP
just like Minecraft Bedrock when you activate cheats
And To prevent easy way to get achievement
Idk
elder meadow
it's because mods require the devmode to be on, and devmode does this stuff
there was a bypass iirc, to make your campaign saves work normally
never mind, it's not a bypass it just tells you that if you want to access achievements, multiplayer, and snapmap then you have to turn off devmode and remove your mods
ruby stratus
whats the best waay to level up in mp
since im missing those 2 achivements for cosmetics
noble moat
Playing
blissful imp
In a french site i have saw a bad review (Nin.ver) because there were a red constant fog
Hah yes, the atmosphere of mars
bright bay
just from playing ultra-violence, I think my challenge of eating a spoon of asian hotsauce for every death in ultra-nightmare will be the end of me
elder meadow
Just keep pushing until you get the Gauss cannon
civic hedge
Any mods for 2016? Like new levels?
elder meadow
Then believe me you won't have hotsauce for the rest of the run
hushed vault
@civic hedge it’s called “SnapMap” unless you have the Switch version
elder meadow
In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... the Doom Slayer.
cyan sparrow
i wish doom VFR wasn't broken on the oculus rift
tiny sandal
Imagine rounding a corner and coming face-to-face with an armored Mancubus dual wielding Delta-12s
steel crystal
Just killed Nightmare Cyberdemon
gloomy mantle
Mancubus with a glock
Do guns stop existing at a certain time period after their inception?
blissful imp
Do gun exist ?
tiny sandal
ornate basin
Wow
high raptor
blissful imp
I hope Panic Buttons is doing a God and Good job for DE switch, Doom 2016 switch is so good
noble moat
And remember 2016 was never intended for such a weak console
Which is what makes that port so special
Eternal is being developed for the switch this time, so I’m expecting better graphics, better stability, etc
Not to mention id Tech 7 is much more optimized too
blissful imp
Yeah
Weird exemple but Fortnite was not intented to be that good port, they put so much work in it that apparently its the best Port now
Yeah, ID Tech7 without megatexture
Maybe no Blur in Eternal ?
Do you think Eternal Before Summer ?
blissful imp
Look pretty Accurate
flint dune
I can see why you think that. Eternal gets better the more you play in my opinion but had a lot more issues with it than 2016.
Eternal was overhyped though, 2016 was sort of an underdog, so less expectation
sour plover
Imps on nightmare are bruuuutal lol
tiny sandal
If I ever get back to 2016, the relative lack of mobility will piss me off
noble moat
To prepare for eternal I’m doing a “eternal run” in 2016
gloomy mantle
eternal makes you realize how unfun the platforming in 2016 is
noble moat
By “eternal run” I mean I’m not upgrading ammo at all so I have no ammo
Also no ammo buffing runes,
No rich get richer of course
And no saving throw
soft crest
platforming in 2016 was such a different time, but I think its not that hard to get back in it. The biggest annoynce to me is the F-E melee change. Completelly confuses me in both games
noble moat
No shit?- to amnesia
soft crest
there is a competition like this
noble moat
1: From what I’ve seen eternal Gives you still HP and shield upgrades
2: eternal gives you tons of new ways and more ways to gain hp and shields back that 2016 doesn’t
soft crest
UN no upgrade
noble moat
3: I only play Nightmare
soft crest
well you can,
noble moat
I’m not going for a challenge, I’m going to prepare for eternal,
soft crest
@noble moat but you should do UN to keep yourself busy while waiting for the Switch port
noble moat
I have been trying UN runs,
My issue is the first 5 levels of 2016 are not fun
I’ve had to restart a few times now, but it’s not fun playing the first half of 2016
soft crest
I always die the first level, the only thing I wanna do is the UAC for the achievemnt and then just see how long can I get
noble moat
The latter half of 2016 is when it gets fun, tons of demons everywhere, huge groups, hordes, interesting environments, all weapons fun times
The imps and their speedy fireball is bullshet imo
It does like 45-50 on nightmare, and is super hard to dodge, now try dodging like 5 of those at once,
I’ve lost 4 runs in Kadinger sanctum purely due to those stupid Instaballs
I am 100% fine dying to demons, usually means I made bad mistakes or didn’t kill fast enough, but I hate being cheesed by imps
tiny sandal
I rebound the keys in Eternal so they were closer to 2016
noble moat
Siege if used properly kills pretty much most enemies in one hit
Can kill multiple enemies at once,
And 2-3 shots the biggest of enemies,
It’s the fact that if you line it up correctly with 2-3 shots you can clear an entire arena worth of demons including barons mancubus etc
noble moat
It’s pretty easy to line shit up if you know what you are doing
Quick thinking, fast calculations,
If I double jump at this angle by jumping off of etc I can have a fully charged siege to kill xyz
I remember someone in a video mentioned that doom 2016 is just mindless shooting but that couldn’t be further than the truth
If you want to be a good doom player, you have to be thinking about everything at once,
Ammo check
Speaking of ammo only 2 chainsaw can’t kill big guys ok
Grenade 50% charged no safety net,
Shotgun grenade launcher reloading I should switch to plasma to stagger this imp to my right and heat blast the 4 to my left,
Caco coming in better lock on rpg him while I have a moment to breath,
Whoops hellknight too close lemme artificial gauss dash and shoot him with it at same time
Grenade ready lemmme toss on wall to hit knight and soldier
And all that thinking only occurs in maybe 10-20 seconds of gameplay
The good thing is the game has lower difficulties
I never bash anyone for lower difficulty play. They were added for a reason
If people enjoy the game, that’s all that matters, because games are meant for fun.
Like sure I personally only play Nightmare, but that’s only because I find it the most fun, not to 1- up anyone
If I wanted to try to 1-up people I’d just say I play Doom on a switch nightmare and no gyro handheld ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
lyric bloom
cyberdemon
elder meadow
raises hand Doom is the first ever fps game I’ve willed myself to play I’m playing the easiest difficulty
noble moat
^
Gotta say Onyx picking doom As your first Fps is quite a feat
But that also means if you master it other fps games should become easier, (albeit most will feel much slower)
lyric bloom
Slayer power strides
elder meadow
One of my friends is super into doom and he explained the entire story to me over two solid hours so I got pretty interested
I’ve never been able to play fps games in the past because I scare very easily but doom is a very different story
lyric bloom
Scare?
noble moat
Doom didn’t scare you!?!
elder meadow
Zombies are less terrifying when you can curb stomp them after a single shot to the head
noble moat
I’d think if fps games scared you Doom is probably the “most scary fps” you could play
gloomy mantle
now i remember why i never did the rune trials
lyric bloom
laughs in alien isolation
lyric bloom
Then no true fps is scary
elder meadow
Granted the last time I tried to play an fps I was like ten or so
gloomy mantle
fucking saving throw trial
lyric bloom
Its all action
elder meadow
Not being able to see what’s shooting you was terrifying for me
lyric bloom
How so
noble moat
I’d say the “best scary atmosphere” fps is Zombie army trilogy
Single player, set to 4 player zombie spawns
gloomy mantle
fuck the saving throw trial so much
lyric bloom
What do you mean by scared tho
elder meadow
it’s hard to explain ig?
noble moat
Well fps games don’t “scare me” but I refer to it as a “feeling”
lyric bloom
Adrenaline?
noble moat
In zombie army trilogy it’s the atmosphere,e you are alone, millions of zombies everywhere, constant screaming, slight fog, Etc
elder meadow
Ye that’s adrenaline
noble moat
^ mind u ive never played zombie army, I can only say from what I’ve watched, but it gave me that feeling and it felt great
lyric bloom
The only fps that creeped me out was void bastards
noble moat
Oh I know a good example of “fear”
I just started Rage 1
So I was maybe 1 hour in, just started sewer level “knowing I had no ammo and terribly unarmed”
And you see no enemies
noble moat
All of a sudden these deformed mutants run from all sides With dual knives making weird noises and sheet
And the best part is
Oh they look dumb
Fires shotgun,
Mutant dodges
Now there are 6 of them and more coming
elder meadow
Yeah too much for me
noble moat
It’s funny, I used to be terrified of blood
lyric bloom
what games do you play then?
elder meadow
Who? Me?
lyric bloom
Yea
elder meadow
Depends tbh. Recently it’s either been doom or animal crossing. I was playing a lot of minecraft for a bit but not much aside from that. I’ve been more of a reader lately
lyric bloom
Ah
noble moat
Finally another person that reads
elder meadow
I’m also limited to my Switch so games that I’m actually interested in are either way out of my price range or not on Switch
lyric bloom
Well gun go pew pew is fun and thats all doom is really :|
noble moat
A dying art I’m afraid, but a good book does wonders
elder meadow
Doom is a whole bucket of fun and Hayden radiates the biggest disappointed dad energy
noble moat
Doom is my favorite franchise, I’m so happy the switch will have every doom on it
elder meadow
I’ll definitely be getting eternal the moment it comes out for Switch
noble moat
Favorite fps franchise*
Favorite rpg franchise is Monster hunter
elder meadow
Monhun is great
noble moat
I’m also only limited to a switch, so I was lucky that dooms came to it
elder meadow
For the longest time I was deciding if I wanted to get doom, cursed dice or commission an art piece
lyric bloom
What
elder meadow
The need for a new game mostly lol
noble moat
Need me a new game too =/ out of all the disappointments this year, I think my biggest has to be that Pokemon mystery dungeon got remastered
^needs a bit of an explanation
elder meadow
Yeah I got that one too. Haven’t progressed very far
noble moat
So here’s me being all sad doom eternal not coming nov 22nd. Dam gotta wait for switch release.
Now here is March, they announced the remaster of my favorite game of all time. And it’s entire artstyle is Concept art of the old game
I can only maybe afford 1 game a year, and I was saving for eternal since 2019.
So I have to choose between the remaster of my favorite game of all time, or the latest entry in my favorite fps game of all time
elder meadow
I don’t mind the art style but the way it plays is just grossly clunky
noble moat
And doom wins =/
I played the demo, still plays pretty much like the one from 15 years ago
Some stuff was changed a bit, some stuff streamlined others not
elder meadow
imo if you’re remastering a game you need to do more than slap a fresh coat of paint on it but that’s just me
noble moat
You do realize that is pretty much what a remaster is right?
90% of a remaster is just changing or buffing the artstyle. Maybe a few new features, a little less loading screens, but that’s pretty much it
elder meadow
It really shouldn’t have the same issues as the original imo. Mystery dungeon is just clunky and not fun to play. A good remaster should improve gameplay as well but bank on nostalgia for a quick cash grab
But again I’m not a huge fan of the mystery dungeon games or anything Pokémon anymore
carmine bluff
double xp when?!?
astral marlin
Is the doomblade only in doom eternal
I cant find any information about it on the internet at all
soft crest
@noble moat youre playing Rage1? One of my best moments was when I started the MutantBashTV mission, and then realized I have like three bullets in my pistol and one in my sniper. It made the game so incredibly intense having use the environmentals to my advantage and fighting the mutants with my fists. I also had a couple wingsticks, but I completelly forgot I did. But at least I had something to kill the boss with.
I felt like a badass after finishing the mission
there is something so incredibly satisfying doing something against all odds. I think that after I finish Eternal, Ill try to do a grenade only run, or a ability only run in Rage2. Or better Ill finally finish Rage. Been stuck in the second act too long.
noble moat
It’s definitely a fun game that’s for sure,
I haven’t gone far, maybe only first 3 hours
soft crest
the story isnt that good, but I liked the atmosphere
where do you play it? Im pretty sure its not on Switch
one thing Ireally like about the game is that you just cant simply mistake a screenshot from it with some other game
tiny sandal
@peak goblet talk about a splitting headache
peak goblet
Ha
peak goblet
flint dune
noble moat
I play it on 360 @soft crest
My brother had found a Xbox one backwards compatible bundle in clearance at Walmart for $6
Included The complete fallout 3
And rage 1
red coyote
hey how often does doom 2016 go on sale?
noble moat
🤷♂️ about as often and most games I assume
I mean I’m pretty sure new it’s like $20 for all platforms except switch
noble moat
Well GL waiting for a 90% sale, I assume the steam summer sale might have something
golden cosmos
@red coyote https://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/doom-pc-cd-key-steam lets see... $5
golden cosmos
Ohhhh~ steam account wallet thing. My bad. (well if you got a separate way of paying with $5, there you go. I hope.)
bold dew
Hello! I like to do The UAC Arcade Mode on Ultra nightmare. But I do not know what load out or method is best. Please help if possible 🙇♂️
golden cosmos
Is that the first level?
You only get the Combat Shotgun. So use pop rockets and holodukes. Easy compared to non-arcade.
gentle sable
Is multiplayer dead on this game? Wanna get it on ps4
golden cosmos
It's not quite dead yet on PC?
thick heart
i did a good
i got the toe into madness achievement
i am proud of self
Not the biggest achievement ever but I'm proud nonetheless
golden cosmos
Proud of you! First two levels are the hardest IMHO.
thick heart
i've been doing a nightmare campaign run to practice
at argent tower on that one rn
kinda irritated that i didn't get the achievement for all runes when i have all runes
golden cosmos
Best tips for early game are Heat Blast+Expanded threshold and Super Heated Rounds, then master Remote Det. on level 3. (or at least as much as you can)
misty shadow
N I C E
distant acorn
Hella, got my first slayer medal in arcade
misty shadow
N O I C E
distant acorn
This game is addictive lmao
oak escarp
Was it ever awnsered how doomguy escaped being sealed back up at the end of 2016 and is free in eternal
distant acorn
He's a demon slayer he can't be trapped forever
misty shadow
Cause he‘s badass and just rip and teared that aura
oak escarp
I Just imagine him smashing it open
distant acorn
Pretty much, yea
distant acorn
I just got into doom so I wouldn't know lmao
misty shadow
Amazing seeing new fans coming to Doom
halcyon charm
Hey quick question. What are the red canisters in doom? Is it a type of ammo for a weapon I dont have?
distant acorn
I think they are barrels?
thick heart
shoot it does it explode
halcyon charm
No they dont explode
noble moat
Yeah the only red things in doom are
Gas
Barrels
Blood
thick heart
if it's a gas canister that's chainsaw
noble moat
And only one is collectible
thick heart
that no count
noble moat
Siphon grenades
thick heart
oh that's a siphon grenade pickup
soft crest
I play it on 360 @soft crest
@noble moat thats cool, completelly forgot its not this gen
noble moat
Yeah I’m stuck in the past ;-;
Except for the switch
halcyon charm
Ahhh thanks for the help guys 😄
thick heart
yeah np
noble moat
Siphon grenades + maxed out Equipment rune is op
distant acorn
You must be a champ then
thick heart
i don't feel like one but thanks lmao
noble moat
The one where you get the jump boot right?
thick heart
ye
distant acorn
Lmao, I only feel power when I play video games
noble moat
You do any secret hunting in the last 4 levels or nah?
distant acorn
N I C E
noble moat
Nice, 3 hours is about right
soft crest
I completelly missed pretty much anything in Argent Tower. Intentionally, but because of that I didnt get SSG till Nekropolis/Tiatns Realm and I didnt even know there were grenade types. I intentionally tried to ignore secret hunting since that almost made me quit when playing the 1st and 2nd level. I wanna get it all, but it ruins the experience for me
thick heart
i got all runes in UV file but no achievement
distant acorn
I played this game for 8 hours straight once.
noble moat
Takes me about 2.5-3hours when I do that too
thick heart
kinda bruh
distant acorn
Lmao Quarantine got me fucked up
thick heart
i still do online school so i don't have such time
noble moat
I once made it halfway through the game on UN in one sitting thanks to the Quarantine
thick heart
i do 5 pushups every death by routine and only did 20 like bruh
distant acorn
Graduated last year
thick heart
i need my exercise stop being good, me
distant acorn
And I work a morning shift. So I got time lmao
soft crest
wow, but cant say I didnt play for at least 6 hours in quarantine, I kind of always hope that my eyes wont be hurt by that
noble moat
Also I play doom 2016
On switch
Handheld
No gyro
Nightmare only
soft crest
Yesterday I went to sleep like 7:00 AM
distant acorn
Xbox one gang where you at? Lmao
thick heart
i have it on xbox
distant acorn
Sick.
soft crest
Also I play doom 2016
On switch
Handheld
No gyro
Nightmare only
@noble moat how can you play without gyro, thats like the only reason I ever hit something
thick heart
damn
distant acorn
yo what's your gamertag tho
@thick heart
It's Agent Biglet. Lmao
soft crest
Welll, Slayer IS SPEED
distant acorn
Gotta go fast
thick heart
i had like 100 hrs on ps4, 60 on switch, idk like 40 on xbox, and only 16 on pc
all with 2016
distant acorn
God damn
soft crest
@thick heart there are A LOT of Doom games,like it may even take you your whole quarantine to get through it
distant acorn
I mean we have nothing better to do
thick heart
the only ones i haven't played is 3 and Vr so
and i've played a few major wads
Plutonia, Evilution, you know, the works
h d o o m
soft crest
Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, Master Levels for Doom 2, Final Doom, Doom 3, Doom3 on rails shooter mobile tie in, DoomRPG, DoomRPG2, Doom 2016, DoomVFR, Doom Eternal. All those are Doom games
distant acorn
Jesus.
thick heart
i haven't gone into rpgs either ig
distant acorn
That sounds like a lot to chew.
soft crest
you could also say Wolfenstein 3D, RPG, and Spear of Destiny are Doom game since they are so similar and also connected
distant acorn
I just have doom 2016. I wanted to see if I actually would like the game..
Now I'm obsessed
soft crest
I think weve been having a discussion about this with Royal Hawks a couple weeks ago. Which ended up connecting all games ever made to Doom
And pretty much everything that exists really
thick heart
i have every one of the old doom installations except for the doom before ultimate, i just got ultimate
because i want thy flesh consumed dammit
lmao
soft crest
But if you just want to do things with DOOM on it, then also the Doom novels, comic, board game, and Rage franchise (all three) since Im 99% the mutans here have demon origin
oh right, the Slayer is also in Champions. Making that a necessity to. And since BJ is there too, do all Machine games Wolf games.
right and the Skyrim and Fallout easter egg
thick heart
i've found the eggs,
played every wolf i can find
played rage one, i think 2 is on game pass
soft crest
you own vr?
thick heart
i have a psvr
halcyon charm
Thx m8
thick heart
ight
noble moat
@soft crest it’s funny, with gyro I can’t hit a dam thing XD
distant acorn
I spent 11 bucks on soundtrack that came with a game.
sour plover
lol maybe im a baby, but doom 2016 is so much scarier than eternal lol
soft crest
@sour plover no, it is, but the devs got rid of it in Eternal since this is a powerfantasy, not a horror game. But I agree it kind of takes the really interesting confilict of scared and prepared. Like, it kind of requires you to become a fucking Doomguy to be be the Slayer demons fear. Eternal makes you the Doom Slayer no matter what.
mystic seal
why when i play doom 2016 it says no graphics card is detected
empty fern
I don't remember 2016 ever being scary tbh.
elder meadow
@soft crest i feel the opposite, 2016 allows you to power fantasy around for free while eternal forces you to earn that fantasy
austere topaz
i never noticed that there's a hint of the classic doom door sound effect in the doors of doom 2016
elder elm
did anyone know that half life was inspired by doom?
noble moat
A yeah 2016 was never meant to be scary and horror, you are a 1 man army demon killing machine, it would be weird if the game made you have a power fantasy and feel scared at the same time
Doom 3 on the other hand is supposed to remind you that you are just a random marine who was sent to find a scientist, not face the force of hell
austere topaz
imo the demons looked a bit scarier in doom 2016
while they look much cooler in eternal
misty shadow
Doom 3 WAS pantshittingly scary, in theory that is. The gameplay is too easy and you quickly realize that these Demons are your everyday weaklings.
austere topaz
doom 3 was def kinda pantshittingly scary tho. the demons look fuckin spooky as hell
misty shadow
Not at all
burnt badger
Yeah they throw a bit of classic door sound in, it's cool
misty shadow
Yea well using the flashlight made you kinda vulnerable but apart from that, you demolish these demons a way or another.
austere topaz
i never said they werent easy to kill
misty shadow
I know
austere topaz
i said by design they look literally more terrifying than every other demon in ever other doom
i mean have you seen those lost souls
misty shadow
the pinkies look retarted lmao
misty shadow
Okay I'll admit, the lost souls had my attention at first when I saw them.
austere topaz
pinkies arent ever scary imo, but one of my fav demons in terms of looks
misty shadow
Pinky T H I C C
burnt badger
I kinda like 3 pinkies. But 3 Cacodemons... what are those 
austere topaz
doom 2016 alpha cacodemons looked pretty spooky imo
doom 2016's alpha just looked like it had much less color imo
burnt badger
Also 2016 enemies aren't meant to be scary really, but I find some of them imposing, I mean the Baron is pretty big and ugly
steel crystal
The Hell Guardians were pretty easy on Nightmare mode... Maybe because I actually knew that you can stun them by shooting their powerup attack...
austere topaz
doom eternal barons look sick as hell
misty shadow
Also 2016 enemies aren't meant to be scary really, but I find some of them imposing, I mean the Baron is pretty big and ugly
@burnt badger As they should, they're literall roadblockers
austere topaz
they got that bioshock 1 upgraded plasmid effect going on around their eyes
burnt badger
And Hell Knights are pretty imposing, one of the designs I liked from 3 that got reworked
steel crystal
The two Barons of Hell at the first half of Necropolis were jerks
More than once have one landed on me from above and insta kill me.
Also does death by gravity count in Ultra Nightmare?
misty shadow
any death
austere topaz
yeah nightmare can be a total fucker lmao
misty shadow
how was that message not removed
austere topaz
im laughing so much rn lmao
steel crystal
I miss my kitty
austere topaz
is this ur cat?
steel crystal
Yeah
austere topaz
i love your kitty
misty shadow
steel crystal
Had her for about 14 years
austere topaz
fuck 2020
misty shadow
fuck 2020
@austere topaz It's gonna get worse than this. Hopefully not though
austere topaz
i'm very sorry for your kitty @steel crystal . she's resting good right now, i know it.
misty shadow
Could you imagine in the future the schools teaching the children about 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 and just skipping 2020
burnt badger
Oh damn we got a proper slayer symbol in here, I've been looking for one for ages.
austere topaz
losing a pet is the fucking worst.
elder meadow
😕
burnt badger
There's a high res one on the slayers club, but it's yellow and doesn't have the four outer symbols
soft crest
@soft crest i feel the opposite, 2016 allows you to power fantasy around for free while eternal forces you to earn that fantasy
@elder meadow depends on what you mean, setting wise not really, 2016 was much more horrorish, gameplay wise - thats a weird one since the game starts out strong , but as it progresses it requires you to adapt and become the SLayer. So its: Well yes, but actually no.
golden cosmos
You lost me.
austere topaz
lmao i love that animation when the revenant kills you in 2016
he takes your arms off then just gives you a lil slap or 2.
...with your own severed arms
so doom-y
austere topaz
holy shit possessed soldiers in 2016 on nightmare are such little fuckers.
thick heart
Yeah what I end up doing is shotgun grenade them or get close and hope for a stagger @austere topaz
austere topaz
for gauss cannon, whats better - siege or precision?
austere topaz
cant you ssg+gauss in 2016, like in eternal
thick heart
And precision is pretty decent if enemy's far off or you have an opening
Yeah, but I prefer ssg + rocket cause rocket isn't slow in 2016
austere topaz
so what would they both be best for? siege and precision
thick heart
Siege is good for yeeting heavy bois and precision is good for mid sized like caco and hell knight
That's how I use them
mystic seal
why when i play doom 2016 it says no graphics card detected'
thick heart
I'm no expert but that's how I play
mystic seal
why when i play doom 2016 it says no graphics card detected
thick heart
My steam does that with random games idk but it's irritating