#doom-2016

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calm cave
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Just looking for help with a issue. I am in the middle of a ultra nightmare run and just beat destroyed argent facility. When I got back on today I practiced a bit in arcade for the next level but when I went to my campaign slot it got switched to nightmare mode any help?

noble moat
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I mean there’s not much you can do to fix that

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Start a new UN

bitter summit
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So here's a question; is Civvie's cyberdemon strat cheating? The one where you fire a BFG blast then slow time with the weapon wheel so the bfg's damage lasts longer. I just did it and it felt like cheating lmao

violet hinge
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the bfg weapon wheel strat is slower than bfg double tap

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and bfg double tap looks cooler

exotic cave
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I wouldnt call it cheating

elder meadow
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It's an exploit

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If you had to say what is Doom 2016's social commentary?

worldly magnet
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Make fun fps games with no reloading

elder meadow
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Hmm that's more mechanics of it

west dagger
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theres is a reloading mechain in doom

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always has been, always will be

hushed vault
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yeah, the SSG

rare ice
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there's a sort of reload mechanism in the doom 2016 weapons that is more apparent than with classic doom due to the weapon switching

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each of the burst damage weapons has a cooldown, though i would say that the rocket and gauss have a pronounced cooldown

hushed vault
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fun fact: there's hidden reload animations

rare ice
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enough that it feels like there's something missing if you only use one weapon at a time

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meanwhile swapping weapons is lightning quick

hushed vault
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and if you have Double Trouble for the SSG, then it "reloads" if you swap to another weapon and swap back

rare ice
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which naturally leads into juggling your weapons to get some ridiculous burst damage

west dagger
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also the pistol kinda has a "reload" with its charged shot. its more of a cooling system, releasing the heat, but still, you cant use it while it does

elder meadow
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To be or not to be.. That is the question.. As in if your dead or not dead.

cinder python
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VEGA core is the hardest level in the game imo

silk fulcrum
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i actually agree with that, my nightmare run halted for a few days at that last fight in the mission.

sinful canyon
cinder python
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that fight is balls hard on PC
but in console I genuinely don't think that level is beatable

tribal rivet
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BFG double tap isn’t necessarily faster

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Can’t remember exactly though it is fast, we talked about it in the speedrun discord. Though any% doesn’t have weapon upgrades

normal quarry
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ngl VEGA core is my fav level in the way it's designed

open nebula
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snowy levels!

normal quarry
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Lots of cover but there's also a lot of room to move around

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lol yeah that too

sullen pagoda
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who thinks Vega was well written than Olivia?

open nebula
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In what way?

sullen pagoda
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like everything lol

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maybe it was his performance

open nebula
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Idk what you mean by "written" though

sullen pagoda
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olivia seemed like one dimensional character,omg she’s evil,gotta kill her

open nebula
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I mean. Theres no other way to put it for Doom slayer

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Evil, KILL IT

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Story isn't deep, but I think its fine and a bit funny too. "Join the Revenant program and become better than you could have ever imagine!" literally turning people into demons as advertisment

violet hinge
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comparing vega to olivia in terms of writing is not a fair comparison imo

open nebula
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Thats probably true as well

violet hinge
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they are very different characters. olivia exists purely to match a face with bad things

cinder python
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lemme explain how Doom 2016 is a commentary on mega coporations messing with the environment

violet hinge
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and she's not supposed to be a super deep character

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VEGA is a character that they knew would be reoccurring, so he obviously would get more lines and story.

open nebula
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Dr Betruger 2.0. Except she dies sorta

cinder python
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because you see the UAC is EXPLOITING the poor WORKING class demons for there hard earned ARGENT energy.
and now its up to the oppressor's whip Doomslayer to beat the working class demons back into submission

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think about it
notice how doomslayer is mostly confronted by the lower classes of demons in the hell hierarchy.

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@violet hinge

open nebula
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someones gone deep

sullen pagoda
violet hinge
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no need to @ me

sullen pagoda
cinder python
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think about it
what are the demons we kill the most
the barons
pahhhh
its the imps the possessed soldiers
the working class of hell.

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so yeah
DOOM 2016 is secretly a commentary on mega coporations exploiting working class demons

harsh oar
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FML. Nightmare is kicking my ass

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Maybe it's because I'm dirty controller scum

silk fulcrum
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Just takes practice.

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You'll beat it eventually. Like how I thought. Took me a week to beat one fight.

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Or I'm just really bad XD

harsh oar
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Yeah I'm still in the uac. Getting it handed to me

silk fulcrum
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Never stop moving, and just shoot any gun at moving things. My moto exactly

harsh oar
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I hear the beginning of nightmare is actually hardest

violet hinge
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yep

silk fulcrum
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Really?

violet hinge
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yes

silk fulcrum
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Huh.

violet hinge
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it's significantly easier after argent tower

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or more specifically, halfway through kadingir

silk fulcrum
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Argent tower is my fav lvl of the game.

violet hinge
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at that point, you've encountered every enemy, and you have every weapon. but mainly you have siege gauss

silk fulcrum
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To me vega core was my worst nightmare in the run.

harsh oar
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Ammo is a concern at first

silk fulcrum
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I guess I just knew the first lvl too well?

violet hinge
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doesn't matter much about how well you know UAC, it's a 3 minute level. the RNG is what kills you

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once RNG is slightly less of a factor (being the midpoint of the game), it's significantly easier.

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and then once you have the BFG plus ammo boost mastered, it's extremely easy.

silk fulcrum
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Oh god I remembered something. In the room to destroy the coolant cells, I remember going in bfg blazing and I shot it like 5 times in a row and killed everything really fast XD. Once the last fight happened before vega himself, is were I couldn't spam it, main reason I failed that last fight so much was because of pinkies. You have no clue how much I hate pinkies in 2016.

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Oh am I allowed to post a 30 second video about doom 2016 here?

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I made it

bitter summit
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Welp, I just beat 2016 on nightmare. Didn't 100% it, got cucked out of it by 2 fuckin summoners. But I think I'm ready for eternal regardless

open orchid
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go for UN

bitter summit
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Nah

open orchid
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Y

bitter summit
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With how many times I died? It'd be it's own hell. Besides, not a fan of "one life no respawn" type challenges

open orchid
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ok

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The first 3 levels are the hardest on UN

light birch
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play arcade on nightmare and get the slayer medal, on every level ripped

fossil knot
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That is a no.

harsh oar
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Who all is using the dynamic res mod?

west dagger
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Is it just me or did the cyberdemon battle seem easier in Nightmare than it did in Ultra Violence or Hurt Me Plenty?

crystal orbit
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Probably because you’d already beaten it previously and knew its tricks

west dagger
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That could be it

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I didn't really pay much attention though when i played it last time

halcyon dove
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Cool to see id’s devmaps look somewhat pretty coolcaco

severe moth
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so people still play 2016 online?

rare lagoon
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yes

severe moth
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I've always loved 2016's online on the xbox so was pretty excited to hear the PC community still cares lol

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the xbox servers were like a ghost town last I checked

west dagger
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I never really got into the 2016 mp, it was okay, just not really for me. I think i was expecting a kind of similarity to a quake mp, but got something very different

severe moth
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funny you say that, it's kinda the other way round for me

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quake wasn't as good as I expected but I found doom, classic and 2016's online, to be just what I had expected/wanted

west dagger
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That's cool, each to their own (oh when i say quake i don't mean champions, that want the best, but like arena and 3 were great)

severe moth
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yeah lol

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idk I think it's the weapons, I never really got into them in quake which I think is what put me off most, but like you said each to their own

coarse sparrow
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I'd have preferred swarm rockets or direct hit charge over the ones we got...

halcyon dove
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I think people who organize achievement/trophy hunt are the ones you’ll likely to meet

severe moth
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I've just made a server for multiplayer if anyone would like to join

severe moth
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idk if plugging channels is allowed or not but I'll give it a shot

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lol thought so

rare lagoon
fossil island
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i rly dont know if i love it or hate it... @rare lagoon

elder meadow
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@rare lagoon that video is a masterpiece and should be preserved for future generations.

elder meadow
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Jesus approves the Doom Slayer

fossil island
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Most christian game

elder meadow
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God: dude I'm tired of hell and its bullshit
Slayer: I got u fam

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Worth every penny

dusky raptor
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Big tilt, I made it to the end of Argent Tower on UN last night, died by falling through an elevator shaft.

open nebula
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Ooof

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tbh argent tower and Kandigir Sanctum scare the shit out of me for jumps

dusky raptor
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^^ Yeahh

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Argent tower is a spooker that's for sure

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Although my reasoning behind dying wasn't a platforming error, it was me thinking the objective was down at the bottom lmao

open nebula
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Rip. Was it that one where you break down the elevator core things?

dusky raptor
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Yeah

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I saw it fall down and was like "oh I got to get back down there to get inside the elevator"

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So I picked up Gauss and jumped down

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The torment has ended

open nebula
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oof

dusky raptor
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I've heard the next level is the hardest, so

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I'm in for a ride

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Lost souls are gonna be a huge pain

open nebula
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i need to play more UN. I usually die to the first imps, otherwise I would be fine

regal idol
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Which level is the hardest?

dusky raptor
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Kadingir Sanctum

open nebula
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I'd say any of the last 3. Most likely Vega Core

dusky raptor
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Not really, once you get set up with all your powerups and runes the game is significantly easier from what I've been told

open nebula
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well I just blast the room with BFG

dusky raptor
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BFG with ammo rune = whole room dead + more bfg ammo

open nebula
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I'm saying if you handled the room without a bfg basically

dusky raptor
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Not to mention the extremely strong gaus, rocket & SSG swap combos

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Ohhh yeah, for sure!

open nebula
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Dnur might be harder in that aspect though with the tripple baron

dusky raptor
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Yeah, you can often chainsaw one of them though

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Use cluster to stun, unload a full round of micros, lock on, gaus etc...

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another dead

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Pinkies and specters though... kill me now

open nebula
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I need to get better at weapon swapping. I can do shotgun and Gauss easily, but more than that is eh

dusky raptor
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In the early I'd suggest using CSG grenade -> 6 micros -> lock on burst rockets

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That one shots any hell knight

open nebula
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Mhm

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I like how Eternal says that I will know how I die. Cause d16 ain't gud at that

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Suddenly I'm ded and my body is on fire
probably and imp but dunno where!

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or how

dusky raptor
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Lol yeahhh

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I'm starting to master 2016's UN though, I'm pretty sure my next few runs will be the completion run

open nebula
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I've done a few nightmare runs. But still havnt even gotten half way through a UN campaign

dusky raptor
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The early is ridiculous, that's all

open nebula
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Pretty much yeah

dusky raptor
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People say Kadingir Sanctum is the hardest, but I honestly think that with all the powerups it's gonna be a walk in the park

open nebula
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You also get the Gauss that level

dusky raptor
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Exactly, or at the end of Argent T

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I tend to pick it up so I have it in my first few battles during Kadingir

elder meadow
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any snap map recommendations?

harsh relic
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Theres some CoD maps redone in Snap.
Puzzle maps and escapes are pretty goo

rare lagoon
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there's a zombie styled map as well

elder meadow
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So. Anyone still playing the multiplayer on ps4?

rare lagoon
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it varies. some days it's booming and populated. Other times it's completely empty

elder meadow
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I always manage to find a fullish lobby and just stick with them

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except today

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it seems to be broken

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Damn

rare lagoon
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may just be a dead day, it happens sometimes. The match making does seem to get somewhat worse if you're in a group

elder meadow
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add me tho if u ever want to get on

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@elder meadow what's your psn?

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the same

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@elder meadow

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Got it. I'll add soon

arctic shard
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is doom server down again?

burnt badger
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Hardest level UN? Once you really know what you're doing, I'd say Resource Operations

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The more upgrades you get, the easier it gets. You can pretty much cheese the game from Lazarus on

dusky raptor
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I agree

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People say Kadingir, I'd say RO

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Unless you skip the gore nest, then it's pretty easy

devout ibex
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Foundry Personally

old onyx
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Kadingir if doing 100%, otherwise Titan's Realm for me.

noble moat
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I’d say foundry is exponentially easier if U get the secret rpg and use lock on

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IM BACK

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UN switch handheld no gyro kadingur Sacnctum I have returned!

dusky raptor
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Nice

noble moat
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In the first age. Ahh how I missed hearing this

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Apparently hellrazer can kill u from behind them too. O K

ornate basin
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What

noble moat
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I was behind it, it uses lazer to attack hologram, yet I got hit with laser

ornate basin
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That’s not fair

noble moat
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It never ceases to amaze me how almost 100 hours later I still find new glory kills

ornate basin
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Try pistol only i found a shit ton of new ones since every enemy gets staggered

ornate basin
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Me neither

worldly magnet
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its a very rare one

noble moat
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This is the other I didn’t see until recently too

worldly magnet
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the neck breakers on soldiers are probably my favorite glory kill

devout ibex
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The ones where you slam their heads into the wall are always great

elder meadow
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@elder meadow added ya just now xD

barren kindle
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anyone wanna

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hehe uhh

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gift me a steam copy of doom 2016

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i have it on xbox but it broke

elder meadow
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is the Doom(2016) multiplayer working on platforms other than playstation rn?

winter folio
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Nobody will play MP on xbox

hoary shell
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Tfw 2016 online broken again

noble moat
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It’s having a stroke knowing it could never be Battlemode

safe matrix
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Is battle mode gonna be good?

noble moat
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Oh yeah 100%

safe matrix
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And story?

waxen root
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100% as well

west wraith
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quick question

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im trying to go back through 2016 and get all the achievements before eternal

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and i gave a toe into madness a shot a few days ago (beat the first level on ultranightmare) and failed

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and i came back today to give it another go and ultranightmare is locked

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i had it 3 days ago but not today

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for some reason

open nebula
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Mmm I had this happen once before, and I don't know why. Try beating the last level again in another campaign maybe

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Though, you have to beat it in nightmare to unlock right?

west wraith
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the reason im confused is i already had it

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and lost it now

open nebula
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Yeah, I really dunno. It has to be a bug

west wraith
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is there a way to unlock it again with console commands or something?

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i really don't wanna replay the entire campaign again right now

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wtf, nevermind

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relaunched the game and it's back

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improperly loaded savefile maybe?

open nebula
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who knows. Good thing its back ¯_(ツ)_/¯

halcyon dove
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please tell me this is just a Doom RPG reference...

open nebula
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idk what that is. But when I heard about DOOM VFR having you put out fires i just laughed

ornate basin
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Vfr isnt the best

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Especially if your fucking left handed

open nebula
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i didnt hear much good about it + its not oculus compatible

halcyon dove
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it actually works on Rift S

ornate basin
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You can’t play if your left handed

halcyon dove
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kinda

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you can't turn by default and have to bind it in a console

ornate basin
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Who made vft

open nebula
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iD

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or like what do you mean?

halcyon dove
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humiliating the hellknight

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you get full loco but I imagine to most people its vomitastic

open nebula
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I dont like teleport or snapturn

ornate basin
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Plus no glory kills vr glory kills should have been the focus

open nebula
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im full immersion yeeeee.

halcyon dove
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..oh

open nebula
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i think its pretty hilarious though that you play as the guy who was used as a corpse eye scanner

elder meadow
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i was shot and killed in ultra nightmare because i stood still lol, got gunned down by a possesed soldier in foundry when my game was going well

noble moat
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Why u standing still tho

elder meadow
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tried to be accurate

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was lining up a grenade shot

noble moat
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No no no no. Your accuracy must be an extension of your body

halcyon dove
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never stop moving

old onyx
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Move and be accurate at same time.

inner goblet
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How can I play multiplayer?

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?

worldly magnet
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are multiplayer servers down again?

elder meadow
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yeah, I couldn't get into any games

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seems to be the same issue as last time

inner goblet
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Could not find a match. Try again 583 times

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Bruh

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That’s awful dude I wanna play the multiplayer

topaz dove
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Are the online servers down?

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that's pretty shit

noble moat
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Das ez tho

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It’s just don’t die on the first level

west wraith
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well yeah, but ultra-nightmare doh

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it wasn't actually as bad as I thought it would be

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still was moderately difficult though

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I can't imagine finishing the game on this difficulty though

noble moat
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Trust me. Any tiny mistake boom restart game. That is what makes it crazy

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Or any bug or bs like how my run ended today

west wraith
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is there a guide to get

IDKFA
Hot Swapper
Historian
Every Nook and Cranny
Argent Fiend
The Circle is Complete
Overclocked
IDDQD
What Else Ya Got?

in one run?

noble moat
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Apparently he’ll razers can shoot forward and hit u from behind if u re too closer to their rear. Smfh

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There are no cheats in 2016

west wraith
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AKA basically 100%ing the game

noble moat
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Unless those are achievements in which case no clue

west wraith
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those are achievements

noble moat
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I play doom on switch, no achievements here

west wraith
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all collectables, all runes, all rune upgrades, all argent things, all mission challenges, basically everything

open nebula
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There are console commands in doom

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Yes its possible @west wraith

west wraith
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im aware it's possible

noble moat
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Oh I gotchu I know a guy

west wraith
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is there a guide

open nebula
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O. Probably i dunno

noble moat
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Here ya go. This guy has every leveL 100% secrets codex everything

open nebula
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watch Byte

west wraith
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that doesn't include files, mission challenges, runes, etc

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oh that has codex?

noble moat
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It also has runes

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No challenges tho. Those u gotta do your self

open nebula
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Seems like servers are online now. But i got 3 people in my lobby

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o now i got some

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just....waiting for a hacker to get online

elder meadow
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I've oddly enough not run into any hackers when I've played this game recently

west wraith
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i haven't run into any (noticeable) hackers ever

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i've only been playing for a few weeks though

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trying to get all the multiplayer achievements

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also, those last two damn achievements are BS

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you can get all the other achievements in the first prestige level then it's like "oh BTW you need prestige 10 to finish this"

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for some damn armor

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kinda poorly paced

elder meadow
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@open nebula but did u get into the match

open nebula
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Yeahhhhh sooo uh. No

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Seems to be looping through searches

west wraith
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damn

open nebula
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time to play in character creator yeee

elder meadow
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how did this get fixed last time cause it has been like this all day

open nebula
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

west wraith
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servers still down?

open nebula
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mhm

west wraith
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k, ima go finish my re4 professional run while i wait then

grizzled bloom
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Just beat nightmare mode, made me realize just how bad I am at the game

whole narwhal
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The other stuff is kinda self explanatory.

west wraith
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@whole narwhal does that include where all the argent energy upgrades are?

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and runes

harsh oar
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Ok, if my monitor is set to 4k I should still be able to play 1440p full screen, right?

west wraith
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i mean, yeah

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idk why you'd want to do that, but you should still be able to

harsh oar
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Because windows it set to 4k but I was trying to check performance at 1440

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My gpu is acting weird. I have a XT flashed 5700 so I expect 4k 60 to be fine with vulkan, but I'm getting below 60 at times

pearl gorge
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Some guy in Google play made a review on the doom 2016 soundtrack and wrote "make an android game for it idk its only on consal"

harsh oar
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?

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lol

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Why is slow mode always enabled instead of periods of high activity, that shit is annoying as hell.

ornate basin
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Spammers

harsh oar
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Either way, I feel like a quitter but i think I am giving up on Nightmare. It's suppose to be fun but it is more frustrating

ornate basin
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Don’t give up it’s so satisfying to win

harsh oar
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@ornate basin I'm pretty sure you can have a bot enable it if their is too much chat activity. Slow mode should make things easier to follow, not keep a single discord user from sending a message right after sending a previous message.

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i know, but fuck my life. I am getting my ass handed to me.

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maybe its because im using a controller.

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lol

ornate basin
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Sp did i when I played nightmare but it gets easier when the game stops introducing demons

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And you get all your mods

harsh oar
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(i should not have had to wait 5 seconds to fucking write "lol"

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yeah i hear that the game is brutal at first on nightmare

ornate basin
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It gets much easier later in the game ironically

gilded hill
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anyone up for some coop maps?

tribal rivet
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@harsh oar what map ya on? Early is hardest. And do you have aim assist on

neat marsh
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Why r the servers down

noble moat
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Well u see. I got mad. And decided to eat some of the cables

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Which caused a crazy electrical surge frying all electronics

neat marsh
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Nooooooo

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😢

noble moat
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Ik ik. But a goats gotta eat ya know?

harsh oar
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@tribal rivet second level. yes, aim assist is on. I'm at the first gore nest.

noble moat
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I play doom nightmare on a switch handheld no gyro and have beaten nightmare multiple times

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So if I can do it with what is arguably one of the “worst standard controllers out there” you can do it

cerulean stirrup
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Just finished Titan's Realm, got all the runes and I've almost got all the mastery skills for the weapons, minus the scope for the Gauss Cannon, the remote detonation for the Rocket Launcher, the Charge Shot for the Combat Shotgun, and the pistol. Am I gonna be able to acquire all points even if I missed a secret area in a couple of levels and the Baron of Hell challenge in Titan's Realm? Or do I need to start all over again? Cause I wanna get dem trophies.

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Mind you, I'm playing on Nightmare.

tribal rivet
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@cerulean stirrup you can revisit levels and get what you missed. You’ll have 11 weapon points left over if you get every single point available and spend them all, so there is leeway.

@harsh oar that is nicknamed “the gore nest of truth”, it’s a rough one! There’s also a skip for it 😄

cerulean stirrup
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I can't exactly revisit levels, cause certain trophies ban that shit altogether.

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Get all mastery in one campaign, for instance.

harsh oar
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i only saw one instance of it being called that. but ill take your word. thiat shit is fucking hard

cerulean stirrup
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Skipping gore nests is like the mad skip in E4M3 with SR50 or E4M5 skipping the yellow key AND getting the BFG at the same time. It's just a way to say to the level "fuck off".

fossil island
elder meadow
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boris is great

exotic flint
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Any switch players who play online? I haven’t been able to get into a match for about a week

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I keep getting booted from the match before they even start? Anyone experiencing similar problems?

lime sphinx
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We're investigating issues with multiplayer connectivity for all platforms. Thanks for the heads up

teal otter
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Finally completed all levels on ultra nightmare on arcade with slayer ranking

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took like 2 days

hot ocean
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I'll be streaming a full playthrough of doom 2016 in about 12 hours

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took like 5 hours of setup and tinkering for obs lol

prime ridge
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Hi all quick question. I’m a new player and about to finish the last level. However I wanted to go back through prior level to 100% any secrets or challenges I missed. Is there a way to check this from a menu without having to load each mission individually? Thanks!

ornate basin
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No

restive acorn
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are mp servers back ?

noble moat
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Did u try checking?

elder meadow
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they're back on pc

dusky raptor
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@cerulean stirrup you can revisit levels within the same campaign, you don't have to start a new one. Once you finish you can reload any level of your choosing within that same campaign for the exact purpose of grabbing what you missed.

cerulean stirrup
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I did that on my first save file, 100% everything, but didn't give me the trophies.

dusky raptor
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@prime ridge I'm pretty sure when you hover over the levels when you're going to reload any of the previous, it shows how many challenges, secrets, etc... you acquired.

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That doesn't make sense, you must have to redo the final boss for it to register or something @cerulean stirrup

prime ridge
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@dusky raptor you’re correct. Haven’t gone back to replay yet and didn’t know it showed there. Thanks!

dusky raptor
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Np man coolcaco

cerulean stirrup
#

I also did that. I legit replayed every single level, got every single UAC document, all Slayer Testaments, all Argent Spheres, all Token Praetor and all mastery for the weapons.

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I defeated the Mastermind and the result was nothing. No "Overclocked" trophy, no "Mastery" trophy.

dusky raptor
#

Maxed all the rune trials and weapons?

worthy sun
#

time to play Doom 2016, 1-level-per-day till Eternal releases. Today was The UAC. Running at 160 fps on 4k max graphics!

elder meadow
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13 days, 13 levels

dusky raptor
#

Oo that's a great idea

elder meadow
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@cerulean stirrup are you on PS4? When I did it I had to delete my save file, uninstall/reinstall the game, and do it again

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But I'll be damned if I didn't get that platinum

cerulean stirrup
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I'm on PS4, yes. I've restarted recently the entire game on Nightmare.

elder meadow
#

Yeah that's probably what happened then, the trophies on that platform are all wacked out

winter folio
#

Do u guys have a favorite demon? Mine is the Hell Knight, pure badassery and no bullshit when attacking the Slayer, just like his higher rank

elder meadow
#

Probably the revanent

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I reeeeeally like the design in 2016

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Pinkies got a really neat overhaul too

winter folio
#

The fact that the demons are all unique instead of going single file really gets u thinking

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Pinkies are annoying but still pretty cool

cerulean stirrup
#

My fave is the Baron of Hell, simply because I've grown up with shareDoom in 2003, I had only that and basically faced those two barons every time. Yeah, 10 years after it came out I had only played Knee-deep in the Dead.

winter folio
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The Baron of Hell lives up to his name. No demon has brought me to lower health and made me shit my pants more than the Baron.

elder meadow
#

Eh, barons are neat but I still feel they don't hit nearly as often as they could

soft flint
#

doom 2016 has gyro aiming on the switch?

coarse sparrow
#

yes

exotic cave
#

(probably yes)

copper kernel
#

Say less ima beat ur score

tribal rivet
#

who made that new hell on earth snapmap? with the eternal features?

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burning earth is its name, thats it

open nebula
tribal rivet
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thats it thank ya

elder meadow
#

It's really well made although i ended up getting stuck in it

worldly magnet
#

Its good custom geo but the level progression is choppy

open nebula
#

I got stuck as well I think

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Oh yeah, collecting the slayer gate key before killing the enemies breaks it

tribal rivet
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yea i got stuck at a point i think

dusky raptor
#

How many hours have you boiz pumped into D2016?

solemn shuttle
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Around 400

tribal rivet
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500 almost since late 2018

open nebula
#

414 hours

urban acorn
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hm, don't actually know ... played the campaign 7 or 8 times and then jumped into random levels from time to time ....

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when i neede to vent 😄

tribal rivet
#

I’m kinda gonna miss it here in a couple weeks

plush barn
#

Anyone down to play multiplayer on Xbox?

elder meadow
#

374

dusky raptor
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Damn I only have 142

violet hinge
#

630 hours for me

#

Gonna try and hit 666 before Eternal and then never play 2016 again

dusky raptor
#

You're a monster

elder meadow
#

oh yeah I wanted to hit 666 hours on doom 2016 as well before playing eternal

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but I think I'll have to idle those hours at this point

young otter
#

i have a quick question

exotic cave
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I actually only have 110 lol

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A good amount of it MP

raven parrot
#

I'm playing thru Doom 4 for the first time and grabbing all the collectibles first go through. Then I'll go again through the higher difficulties

harsh oar
#

doom 4? Im calling the police. This is ILLEGAL

urban acorn
#

Doom 4 was cancelled and never released

raven parrot
#

Doom 4 is easier to say in person than 2016 when talking to co-workers who've never played any Doom game

exotic cave
#

then just DOOM....Doom 4 is blaspheme, and what OG doom lovers who poopoo on 2016 call it

urban acorn
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hmhm, know what you're saying .. i sometimes refer to it as doom two-sixteen or just "the reboot"

cinder python
#

I just call it 16

harsh oar
#

doom 4.....gives me ass cancer

elder meadow
#

the cancelled one or 2016?

harsh oar
#

thats not to say i wouldnt play if it they released a tech demo or beta

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(cancelled)

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2016 just gives me sweaty hands (on nightmare)

raven parrot
#

It's worse when you're not used to fps games

urban acorn
#

there actually was a D°°M 4 in development from ~2008-2013, but it was scrapped. Parts of it where probably recycled for 2016

ornate basin
#

That’s horrifying

urban acorn
#

well, it was 2013, and probably early development ... it might have gotten good, who knows

ornate basin
#

No it wouldn’t

elder meadow
#

disappointed that the cancelled version didn't include tactical nukes

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It would probably be mediocre, and despised by fans

ornate basin
#

Call of doom

elder meadow
#

Why does the character in the video have a pipboy on him? It looks like one

urban acorn
#

the setting does seem more like something for a spin.off though ... just some para-militaries fighting for survival on earth against the demons ... yeah

elder meadow
#

This Doom 4 doesn’t look good to me because it looks to take itself seriously. I like the more silly self-aware parts of Doom and this doesn’t look to have any of it. Thank goodness it turned to 2016.

hushed vault
#

honestly, I still like Doom to have a sense of seriousness to it

#

something more like PSX and 64

wheat void
#

holy shit i finally did this gore nest...man that took a lot of tries, but it definitely feels good to be done with it

urban acorn
#

Doom 1 & 2, while hard to grasp today due to its outdated graphics, was dead serious. there just was no humor there in any form. just gritty, armed to the teeth fighting and slaughtering Demons

#

when i first played the Shareware version of the first Episode, it was like OMG WTF, this is possible?? how ...

#

1993 ... man i was 15 then 😄

hushed vault
#

ok, granted, there was the ending of E3 and E4, but other than that the rest of it was pretty serious

elder meadow
#

Yeah a bit of seriousness, but not all of it

#

I am just saying I appreciate the silliness of it

hushed vault
#

did anyone else think that the Argent Tower with the portal and beam above it looked like how the Citadel did in Half-Life 2 Episode 1?

remote wedge
#

I like the fused zombies in the tech demo

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Also the split chest imp design is pretty neat

urban acorn
#

@hushed vault a sort of resemblance was there, yes 🙂

cerulean stirrup
#

WOOO!!! It's been a while since the game screeched to a halt and crashed! Definitely didn't miss that shit!

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Hell Guard Crash! This is why I don't replay The Necropolis!

swift cairn
cerulean stirrup
#

....

#

......

open nebula
#

wot

#

hes naked

#

Idk whats more impressive. This video alone, or doomguy beeting the shit out of barons

swift cairn
#

He can kill barons with his bare hands doomguy_grin

cerulean stirrup
#

I want to commit die right now...

noble moat
#

U died I see?

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Or quit?

cerulean stirrup
#

Didn't die, didn't quit, I crashed.

noble moat
#

OOF

cerulean stirrup
noble moat
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How far were ya

cerulean stirrup
#

The Necropolis. I legit got every mod, every rune, and basically powered the Slayer up to the very brim.

noble moat
#

Ouch that sucks

cerulean stirrup
#

And it was a Nightmare run.

noble moat
#

During a nightmare run? Shouldn’t it have kept the save tho?

cerulean stirrup
#

Is this what they call an Ultra-Nightmare?

noble moat
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Ultra nightmare yeah is the no deaths one

cerulean stirrup
#

Yeah but this was a Nightmares run, not an Ultra Nightmare

noble moat
#

Yeah that should have 100% kept the save file. Sucks that it got corrupted

cerulean stirrup
#

I almost took down one Hell Guard, the other beated me to the ground, and the game instantly crashed

flint dune
#

Awh man, that sucks :/

cerulean stirrup
#

I'm gonna hurt myself really badly by trying to get the "One Step into Madness" trophy.

flint dune
#

I’ve had to start an entirely new campaign due to a bug. Didn’t give me the damn Rune trophy

#

Gl

cerulean stirrup
#

Oh my fucking God I got killed by a possessed.

flint dune
#

Rip, been there. Rage inducing

open nebula
#

I love soul harvest so much

cerulean stirrup
#

Holy shit i did it.

copper kernel
#

Theirs no greater rage then being in the last level of doom being on ultra nightmare and dying to a possessed

cerulean stirrup
#

That... Wasn't so hard, in fact...

flint dune
#

@copper kernel did that happen to you? (Sorry for the ping)

copper kernel
#

Yes

cerulean stirrup
#

Soul Harvest is a trash mode, Possession is the real butt clencher.

open nebula
#

I only got team modes tbh

ripe vigil
#

#Haydendidnothingwrong

copper kernel
#

He did everything wrong

cerulean stirrup
#

#Oliviadideverythingwrong
#Haydensaviorofhumanity

harsh relic
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#Iamnotthevillianofthisstory
#Idowhatidobecauseimust

cerulean stirrup
#

#RipAndTear

harsh relic
#

#Untilitis
#DONE

ripe vigil
#

Hayden is a goat

copper kernel
#

#ifeellikeishouldapologize

harsh relic
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#Forwhathashappenedinthepast24hours

hushed vault
#

#letthemtastetheirguts
#uacgradeaaapoison

open nebula
copper kernel
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#youmaynotagreewithourresearchbutknowthis

cerulean stirrup
#

#ourinterestwasforthebettermentofmankind

hushed vault
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#youfindyourselfamidst

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#evensimpler
#hectic
#hellkeep
#absolution

#

just doing some 64 hashtags, that's all

copper kernel
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#whatyouseeinthisfacilityisthecostofresearchbutnoneofthatmattersnow

hushed vault
#

#thevoid

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(an amazing secret map, mind you)

copper kernel
#

Sorry but we are trying to do a samul hayden line

hushed vault
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#watchyourstep

noble moat
#

Lmfao speaking of game crashing @cerulean stirrup

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My game crashed during an UN run
Yet for some reason kept the save file 🤔

copper kernel
#

It does that

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If ur lucky

noble moat
#

I wouldn’t have been to upset if it reset. Was only at resource operations

copper kernel
#

Oh

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Its pretty easy for the first couple of levels

noble moat
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But it crashed at Hayden’s speech so I was already done with level =/

cerulean stirrup
#

A save corruption often occurs if you shut down a game when it autosaves.

copper kernel
#

Mhm

cerulean stirrup
#

Considering that DOOM always saves some data when you die, and my game crashed right in the moment I died...

noble moat
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Omg it saved my run at the Hayden speech. Thank u doom

#

I really didn’t feel like spending another 15-20mkn replaying the level rn

cerulean stirrup
#

Y'know what would be fun?

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That Doom Eternal doesn't give you the true ending of the game via the final level if you don't get the Unmakyr.

#

And the final level is named "Absolution".

copper kernel
#

Carnage

cerulean stirrup
#

Or even just... "DOOM".

#

After Doom Eternal, there won't be a need for a third game.

#

I'm sure of it.

noble moat
#

Hey alastor. Spoilers btw

cerulean stirrup
#

What they need to do is a 3D remake of the original Doom.

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Yeah Bob?

noble moat
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The weapon u mentioned. That’s spoilers

cerulean stirrup
#

They've shown that weapon multiple times, it's present in the Fortress of Doom. It's the reason the Slayer Gates even exist.

noble moat
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All media besides the trailers and Quakecon/e3 is spoilers

cerulean stirrup
#

Fun fact, I've never played Doom 64.

noble moat
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Most people haven’t

cerulean stirrup
#

Because NINTENDO

noble moat
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Well yeah, what are the odds you own a 64. Let alone a copy of the game

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And no I’m not counting you people lurking about to say
“Well actually bob there is that gzdoom64 thing you can download blah blah blah”

cerulean stirrup
#

I own an N64

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:(

hushed vault
#

yeah, so what's the issue then?

copper kernel
#

What are we talking about

noble moat
#

Well the game is being re released for $5 honestly cheaper than buying a n64 copy

copper kernel
#

I been playing doom

cerulean stirrup
#

I can't actually run GZDoom lol

leaden needle
#

lack of cartrige probably

cerulean stirrup
#

Yeah, a lack of cartridge

#

And like I said not too long ago, I've actually never completed Doom back in the day, and didn't own Doom 2

hushed vault
#

the way you said "because NINTENDO" implied you were one of those Nintendo haters (at least to me)

cerulean stirrup
#

I meant that Doom 64 is a Nintendo exclusive

hushed vault
#

well, it won't be anymore pretty soon

cerulean stirrup
#

Yup

leaden needle
#

yeah and nintendo doesnt often rerelease stuff too

cerulean stirrup
#

And I'm pretty glad for that, to have the entire series on one console and that it works as intended, with no weird pitch shifting or bad audio

hushed vault
#

granted, Doom 1 had pitch-shifting in the first few versions but it broke by 1.4

cerulean stirrup
#

When I got the Doom 3 BFG Edition, I regretted it badly

hushed vault
#

I think the reason why it took so long for 64 to get a proper rerelease is because Warner still owned the rights

noble moat
#

Before now the only re release woulda been on a WiiU and still Nintendo exclusive

leaden needle
#

I was real into fire emblem as a young teen, and the fact that I couldnt play the telius games was the bane of my existence

noble moat
#

The fact that they are releasing all the old dooms for all platforms is amazing.

#

The fact that I can own every doom in my switch in the palm of my hands is mind blowing

cerulean stirrup
#

Yep

noble moat
#

Not only that, but the prices are even super reasonable

hushed vault
#

I want them to rerelease the RPGs and Resurrection

cerulean stirrup
#

The only game I legit didn't want to buy was Doom 3

noble moat
#

$5 for doom 1 or 2. With tons of content, sigil, no rest, thy flesh consumed, double impact. And final doom free. And constant free updates.

#

Doom 3 at $10 was a steal. Such an amazing game with so much content

cerulean stirrup
#

I'm sorry, but Doom 3 is too focused on horror for me

noble moat
#

Have u played doom 3 before?

cerulean stirrup
#

I've played one hour into the game on the BFG Edition for PS3

hushed vault
#

PSX and 64 did the horror much better

#

also, BFG Edition is a terrible remaster

noble moat
#

Ah. The main campaign of doom 3 is super slow starting

hushed vault
#

I resent the fact that the 2019 ports of 3 are based on BFG Edition

noble moat
#

It’s not until the last 1/4 of the main story that the game gets much faster paced

cerulean stirrup
#

.... The last 1/4?

#

Are you fucking with me?

noble moat
#

The main campaign is about 8 hours, so the last 2 hours is when it truly becomes super fast paced nonstop shooting

hushed vault
#

ROE fixes up the flaws IMO, but BFG Edition cuts out one of the best parts of it

noble moat
#

Halfway is when it becomes somewhat like doom. Last 1/4 is when you say. Fuck yeah this is definitely doom

cerulean stirrup
#

Bullshit, it's like playing a Silent Hill game that slowly turns into a Duke Nukem game to the pace of a snail.

noble moat
#

The entire RoE from start to finish feels much better as a doom game in terms of speed and nonstop demons

hushed vault
#

I oughta note I liked 3 more than 2016

halcyon bear
#

That teleporter room when the revs keep coming and then a hell knight ..

cerulean stirrup
#

At least 2016 didn't take fucking forever to be entertaining....

hushed vault
#

one of 2016's biggest problems is that it didn't have enough horror IMO
64 did it perfectly

noble moat
#

I freaking love doom 3. But it ain’t hold a candle to doom 2016 I’d say. Only issue is dooom 3 always felt like u could die in 2 seconds, and 2016 you became too overpowered

#

I worded that wrong. I liked how u could die in 2 seconds in doom 3

hushed vault
#

another reason why I liked 3 more is that it allowed you to cheese some fights

#

while 2016 forces you to stay in a room until everything else is dead

#

even classic Doom let you chicken out sometimes

cerulean stirrup
#

Well, "forces"

noble moat
#

Super bouncy grenades around corners and seeing bodied rag doll into your Hallway never gets old in doom 3

cerulean stirrup
#

It's more a plot reason than being forced

#

You're the Doom SLAYER, not the Doom guy

hushed vault
#

well, it's still a stupid idea

#

and on that note, another reason why I liked 3 more is that it stuck to classic Doom's original plot idea of "you're just a man, and no more"

cerulean stirrup
#

Super bouncy grenades? What is this, Quake?

#

And what was that cool game for PC... Painkiller?

hushed vault
#

2016 opted to base itself on the lower-than-average comic and dumbass fan perception of classic Doom

halcyon bear
#

Them there be fightn words... but I'm to sleepy

noble moat
#

If u hate 2016 Man U will hate eternal

fossil knot
#

That's why the Slayer is literally the man too angry to die.

hushed vault
#

I didn't say I hated 2016

#

@fossil knot meanwhile, the events of Doom 1 and 2 gave Doomguy an incurable form of PTSD

noble moat
#

Eternal does tons of stuck in a room or area kill until all dead

hushed vault
#

no, seriously, it's in 64's manual

cerulean stirrup
#

Eternal is more metal, more gore, more violent, more brutal

hushed vault
#
Your fatigue was enormous, the price for encountering pure evil. Hell was a place no mortal was meant to experience. Stupid military doctors: their tests and treatments, were of little help. In the end, what did it matter - it was all classified and sealed. The nightmares continued. Demons, so many Demons; relentless, pouring through. 
cerulean stirrup
#

But it's still no Plutonia.

hushed vault
#

I really, really, really hope Eternal has some bits of PSX and 64's soundtrack in there

fossil knot
#

Frick Plutonia, man.

hushed vault
#

especially if it goes the extra mile and samples it

cerulean stirrup
#

Doom 2016 DOES have bits of 64's soundtrack dude

hushed vault
#

in one of the Hell battle themes, right?

halcyon bear
#

Chaingunners chain gunners everywhere...

hushed vault
#

it has something vaguely resembling PSX/64's theme

cerulean stirrup
#

It's even in Samuel Hayden's theme

hushed vault
#

but anyways, I mean sampling stuff like DANNY WON and those baby cries

cerulean stirrup
#

Okay.

If Eternal gets a sequel, it must be on the same level of brutality as Plutonia.

hushed vault
#

if there's a third one it should literally just have Hectic

cerulean stirrup
#

AND it must have a Wolfenstein The New Order map as Easter Egg.

hushed vault
#

like, a full-on remake of Hectic

cerulean stirrup
#

How about a remake of Blood!

hushed vault
#

hell, go even further than Hectic

#

make a map that's like sending your balls to the sun

cerulean stirrup
#

Oh I know that.

#

Grezzo2.

hushed vault
#

haha, fuck no

#

the last thing that needs to be officially acknowledged in a Doom game is that pile of shit

#

I'd even take an H-Doom reference over that

cerulean stirrup
#

It's full of so many Italian references you guys wouldn't understand 😔

hushed vault
#

and it's racist and full of stolen assets

#

it's like Brutal Doom, except the author's views are directly reflected in the mod itself

#

hold on a second, when I said "Hectic" did you think I meant to say "Heretic"?

cerulean stirrup
#

I actually thought of Hexen

hushed vault
#

because no, I didn't mean Heretic, I meant Hectic

#

"Only the best will reap its rewards"

#

the map is the equivalent of getting your balls completely vaporized

cerulean stirrup
#

Worse than Plutonia and SIGIL combined?

hushed vault
#

well, it's a very good demonstration of 64's map scripting system
it has very, very cruel traps

#

like one involving a MegaArmor where once you get it, the camera zooms out to show you exploding into a pile of guts

#

the rewards for beating it the true way are pretty great

open nebula
#

o poop i think i just got my record in soul harvest

elfin briar
#

Dame

open nebula
#

awww ye just got a 5x kill with a single pinkie charge

cerulean stirrup
#

Pinkie pulling off a Modern Sonic by boosting through

worthy sun
#

try ti play MP again. its always lame freeze tag or that football trash

cerulean stirrup
#

Possession is the true meta

elder meadow
#

possession is fun when you're not playing against neckbeards that use weapons like the vortex rifle for the mode

rare lagoon
#

you call it vortex rifle, I call them snacks

harsh oar
#

how insanely unlikely would it be to expect an modern engine port of doom 1/2

rare lagoon
#

yes

harsh oar
#

lol

elder meadow
#

They already did that with the classic levels that you unlock.

rare lagoon
#

that's not really a great modern engine port

elder meadow
#

No way they're gonna do a full remake of both originals when these new ones are basically that

rare lagoon
#

it's nice to imagine

harsh oar
#

I really just meant someone porting it into Unreal or something

#

and the new ones dont have the whole levels do they?

rare lagoon
#

no, and the lighting doesn't work too well

harsh oar
#

yeah, so thats a nonstarter

#

with how heavily modded teh first two games are (arguably one of the largest mod scenes) im actually surprised someone hasn't ported it

red onyx
#

People have tried but like

#

Doom 1/2 feels so incredibly tight and balanced that remaking it just for the sake of pretty graphics seems kinda pointless

rare lagoon
#

and whoever may port Doom 1/2 into unreal may give it ungodly bright lighting and motion blur out the arse

hushed vault
#

I still keep thinking about how much 2016 warped the general perception of Doom as a whole

#

this may not be the last time I'll say it, but I'll say it again:
Doom was never originally about being the ultimate badass, it was about surviving and getting out of this mess
becoming the ultimate badass just happened to be a bonus

#

the point gets across better in 3

#

however, the combination of fan misconception due to older tech and mechanics, the mostly undeserving hate for 3, a bad movie, a terrible mod by a terrible person, and one super shitty comic led to what people think Doom is today: being the ultimate badass, with surviving being the bonus

#

and I think 2016 made the mistake of sticking to that misconception

#

nevermind the fact that Eternal continues that idea, altho I hope it redeems itself if the DLCs focus on a regular human being without any superpowers

flint dune
#

...I personally find the game more fun without the survival horror aspect. I miss the classic shooters where you don’t have to sneak around, and peak behind corners. Many modern shooters are like that, but Doom isn’t, and that’s what people like about it. At least imo.

hushed vault
#

I didn't say it was survival-horror, I said the point was to survive and escape

#

it sounds similar, but no, it's not the same thing as Resident Evil

#

I should also note I was talking a bit more plotwise than gamewise

#

because you were just a human, you were born human

#

you joined the space marines as a human, you beat up your CO as a human

#

you were sent to Mars as a human, and you got stuck in this awful demon invasion as a human

#

you are just a human, and nothing more

#

again, game mechanics led a lot of people to believe otherwise over the years

elder meadow
#

Tried running thru 2016 with godmode. Apparently using DevMode just corrupts the game file?

#

Can't use any of the command except GodMode

#

they updated it or patched it to where you can't according what I have read from it.

#

Wanted to speed through so I could record some stuff without UI on

fossil island
#

but i struggle so hard getting all the weapon mod challenges >.<

burnt badger
#

Yeah depending what order you do them it can be tricky

#

And some take quite a long time#

fossil island
#

i have no order spooky
Still try to memorize all the challenges and make progress on the way u know

burnt badger
#

I don't do 100% runs so I definitely can't help with the order spooky

fossil island
#

"Unlike everything else in your life, your work here matters"
Those UAC fuckz spooky kekw

harsh oar
#

@hushed vault what mod?

hushed vault
#

Brutal Doom

elder meadow
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Brutal Doom is fun as fuck, just because you don't like it doesn't make it shitty

hushed vault
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it has actual problems tho, like coding and balancing

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it has the kind of code Yanderedev would be proud of

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and it's either too easy or too hard depending on what difficulty you select

elder meadow
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Did you come to this channel just to hate on 2016?

hushed vault
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well, not exactly

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I do enjoy 2016, just not as much as 3

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and I have actual reasons for it too, like how 3 lets you cheese some fights like classic Doom

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or how I can actually hear the enemies

elder meadow
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You can still cheese fights in 2016, you know about the slow time bfg trick right?

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It makes bosses trivial

hushed vault
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no, I mean as in "chicken out of a room and leave some enemies alive"

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you could do that in classic Doom, y'know

elder meadow
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I see what you mean, you don't like how it took aspects from Quake's arena style

hushed vault
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also, again, in 3 I can actually hear the enemies

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I don't think the Barons in 2016 even have footstep sounds

elder meadow
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Eh, the hearing is only an issue with imps I've noticed since they actively try to find sneaky spots to hit you

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Barons definitely have heavy af footsteps

hushed vault
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otherwise the whole train station section in VEGA central processing would've been a lot easier

fossil island
elder meadow
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Again I only see it as an issue with imps, and in that spot there's 2 extra shots for the bfg

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So use them and that section isn't a problem

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Worldwide: VEGA
Japan: BALROG

fossil island
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wtf spooky

elder meadow
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I will say I do miss the speed of classic doom, that was a very important aspect that made it fun

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Tournament mode: BISON

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2016 is still fast, but not nearly on the same level

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Change the FOV and you get sp33d

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I have mine set at 115

hushed vault
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@elder meadow the SSG is stupidly quiet

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I found that out when I turned off the music to record a video

elder meadow
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Aren't all sounds set at 50% by default?

hushed vault
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I thought it was 100%

elder meadow
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That's probably just my settings now that I think about it

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I only have music at 100%

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I'm 666% on everything

hushed vault
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And on the topic of that video, PSX Doom’s music works with 2016 better than I thought

elder meadow
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It does, and it's great

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But I can't believe Mick Gordon's new album comes with a free game

exotic flint
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Finally MP is back

fossil island
exotic flint
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Best FPS on the switch still, can’t wait for my PC build to be finished

burnt badger
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@fossil island No you're not, and good spot. Since I played the game many times without seeing it, until someone mentioned it on one of my videos

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So I made a video of it after that

elder meadow
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OwO
Slayer was so happy that he could save his AI buddy that he had a huge ass grin on his face

bronze grove
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@elder meadow is VEGA actually called BALROG in Japan omg

elder meadow
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in the Japanese localization of Street Fighter yes
Vega is M.Bison
And M.Bison is Balrog

halcyon bear
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Mike Tyson

fossil island
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Done :3

burnt badger
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Now time for UN doomguy_grin

fossil island
halcyon bear
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Good shit bro

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Should have enough time for a ultra nightmare run before eternal

elder meadow
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i'm doing that rn, except it's one level per day

dusky raptor
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@hushed vault you can actually leave some enemies alive or skip rooms alltogether in 2016

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There are multiple parkour routes which skip fights as a whole

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UAC you can skip every single fight except the first, Resource OPS you can skip them all except for the room just before chainsaw

halcyon bear
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Who would want to leave demons alive......

dusky raptor
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Not me, RIP and tear brother

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Just saying since Nate was inquiring about it

halcyon bear
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Ahhh I see bro

exotic flint
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Eternal on switch 12/20/2020 lol

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Thank the lord the CPU comes tomorrow and the build process begins right in time for eternal. Fingers crossed everything works right away lol

elder meadow
halcyon bear
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Oooffff

elder meadow
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I can wait 'til 2030

burnt badger
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By then we might have DOOM Eternally Eternal spooky

elder meadow
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or
Various mods that can run on Eternal

ripe bronze
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Is there anything significantly worse about 2016 on the switch vs other platforms

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I haven't played 2016 yet and want to before eternal comes out

soft crest
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doesnt have snapmap

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and if you buy on cartridge you have to install the multiplayer

dusky raptor
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I don't play either tbh, multiplayer is neat and the snapmaps are cool; but I've pumped 145+ hours into the campaign and it still doesn't feel stale

soft crest
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not sure if Arcade is there, but Im fairly sure there are framerate issues in tougher moments

ripe bronze
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What is snapmap

soft crest
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Personally, I bought Doom-2016 because of the snap map,just wanted to make my own levels for others to play. 2016 was the first Doom Ive played

ripe bronze
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Ohh level editor

soft crest
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None of the maps are that fleshed out and for some reason they used the multiplayer layout which I just despise, but other than that its fairly decent. Im quite a lazy creator (2 maps in total, recommend Zero: The First Encounter), but some of the stuff the community pulls out is just amazing.

rare ice
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@hushed vault I agree with what you're saying, but I also think of the other angle

the 'doomguy' isn't the only marine who is capable of these things. he's just the only one who survived the hellish onslaught. It's pretty telling when you read plutonia's prologue, that while most of the marines are probably as capable as him, none are as experienced or know of the hell that follows

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meanwhile in doom 2016, there's too much hero worship. I like the ridiculous lore and whatnot, but I don't like how it's made to seem as if the doom slayer is literally unkillable because of some otherworldly gifts and not because of the experience he would have had fighting demons for ages

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not that i hate doom 2016, because when you play on nightmare you may as well be a normal ass marine getting torn to shreds by demons

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but i miss the idea that you're not some ethereal god of death, and instead just a very pissed off marine high on berserk packs

remote wedge
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I mean

hushed vault
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sometimes I joke about how he took so many Berserk packs it permanently altered his genes

remote wedge
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That could be what you actually are, and the demons just mythologize it

rare ice
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mizar

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you have a very good point

remote wedge
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Demons are not reliable narrators

hushed vault
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yeah, that's another point too

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especially considering the Testaments were probably passed down from generation to generation, so it's not too far out there to think they kept exaggerating more and more as time went along

rare ice
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i dunno if it's canon that doom 2016 just picks up from doom 64, but i like to think that it does, and that doom guy has just been dimension hopping since the end of doom 64 and he arrived waaaaay in the past in argenta

remote wedge
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Argent D'nur would be an alternate reality

rare ice
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so he isn't really a mythological juggernaut, he's just had eons of experience killing demons and other monstrosities

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i also wish they wouldn't give him gears of war boots. it looks like there's no distinction between his ankles and his feet; he just walks on massive stilts

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weird unrelated nitpick but it's been bugging me for a little bit

hushed vault
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same

rare ice
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totally made up for with the sleeveless armor tho

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i thought i wouldn't like the doom blade as much but tbh, it looks like it makes the glory kills alot faster, and with my experiences getting killed out of a glory kill in 2016 on nightmare, i'm glad if the base glory kill time is quicker

remote wedge
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Could also use the savagery rune to speed them up

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Which makes them seem even more brutal somehow

rare ice
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but rich get richer and air mobility

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and also that one rune that gives you armor from glory kills

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time to kill the hell guardians and take the crucible

karmic flax
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I think the hero worship is there to more or less point out how much the demons fear doomslayer

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Which IS justified, however when the scientists pulled him out of this giant ass tomb, the last thing they expected was some guy in a suit

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So IMO he isn’t exactly some invincible demigod eldritch being or whatever

rare ice
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hell guardians

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terminated

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crucible

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claimed

halcyon bear
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What I always wondered was why they would pull him out if Olivia was corrupted and must have been told what he is unless he was pulled out without her knowledge or before the full corruption of the UAC

karmic flax
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Yeah I believe samuel pulled him out

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I think

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Wait yeah lol cause his hologram

halcyon bear
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But was Samuels team not corrupted at all ?

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No one tried to stop him

open nebula
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Samuels team didn't make it, but idk what happened exactly

karmic flax
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No idea

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I know him and Olivia have an argument about it a few times

open nebula
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Either they got possessed or died in teleportation

halcyon bear
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I think oliva may have underestimated the slayers lore

open nebula
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Because slayer is "the only flesh and blood to walk between dimensions"

halcyon bear
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Maybe that's why she didnt all out try to stop it.. hell imbelishes things

karmic flax
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She does have a panic attack in the beginning but yeah idk what her counter measures were

open nebula
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they should have blew up the elevator for the slayer so he couldnt get out lol

karmic flax
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Lol

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Good thing she installed slayer proof glass during the end of foundry

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Or when she rode up the elevator in the tower

open nebula
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Cmon man couldnt she have put a big padlock or something

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he was naked!

halcyon bear
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Why not try to cut off his head when hes laying there naked

open nebula
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because he was protected by energy

karmic flax
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Supposedly his body had an Argent field

open nebula
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Demons be like. HE SUPER DANGEROUS, but lets hide and protect him anyways

karmic flax
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My favorite theory is that he’d just respawn on death

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Cause there’s no where else for his soul to go

dusky raptor
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He's pretty much unkillable

halcyon bear
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Well I know that but shes in contact with demons who can hurt you so im just wondering about that

karmic flax
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Either he had the argent field on him during the time and demons actually can’t damage him or they put the field on him so he doesn’t pull a doom 1 and respawn on death

halcyon bear
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Like that Tom cruise movie where he dies and comes back... that would explain alot

karmic flax
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Oh shit yeah lol

halcyon bear
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Think I just solved doom boys

karmic flax
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We fuckin did it

silk fulcrum
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i accidentally figured out how to cheese the mastermind with the bfg.... was finishing my nightmare run, and if you shoot the bfg and open the weapon wheel, it never slows the damage from the laser the ball makes to the enemy. so one bfg shot can basically one hit KO it...... wish i didnt do this with my nightmare run.....

sinful beacon
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you can just replay the chapter

worldly magnet
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@elder meadow this has absolutely nothing to do with doom 2016

elder meadow
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bro I was just memeing

worldly magnet
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then do so in another server, this chat is not a place to shitpost

elder meadow
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ok

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im courious when doom eternal comes out should i start on ultra violence or hurt me plenty?

worldly magnet
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Im going to start on ultra violence, but i think the best place to ask would be #doom-eternal

elder meadow
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oh fuck i messed up the chats lol

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language

weary pasture
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I'm starting on Nightmare mode 😂

woven pecan
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My friend sucks st doom, rage quit twice, at the same spot, in the same day, and is making me wait so we can do the boss togeather

remote wedge
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Is he trying to play it like halo

woven pecan
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I dont know, all we do is go on a call and explain what happens

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But that is a possibility

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After we beat this playthrough im not doing ultra nightmare with him

hot ocean
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the main thing that helped me improve at doom was learning that uh

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i need to use multiple weapons to kill a single demon

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after that everything sort of fell into place

old onyx
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Oh yeah that's absolutely the case.

woven pecan
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well, we made progress

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More me than him

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I beat boss and ultra n level 1, hes still on boss

timid citrus
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how many times do you have to get to level 50 to get the doom slayer mark on your level?

uncut cloak
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Dam u cant send memes here

long hazel
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you're not supposed to
attaching files is disabled specifically to prevent meme dumps

timid citrus
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im surprised there is no meme channel with how many memes have made it in game for eternal

open nebula
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Its not that surprising. There was a meme channel and it caused too many problems

ebon forge
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i need to talk about how cute the pinky is in this game
hes so adorable

nimble frost
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Samuel Haden be like "I only poopoo and farted for the greater of humanity"

noble moat
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Was that really necessary to type out?

nimble frost
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Yes

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Now laugh

raven parrot
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The saving throw rune trial can blow me, I hate it so much

nimble frost
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You'll get it man

raven parrot
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Why does the gauss have to have seige hooked on it!?

exotic flint
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Just beat doom 2016 for the first time

noble moat
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Welcome to the club. Now get ready to never touch it again XD

exotic flint
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Awesome game to bad I was so late to the party lol and yeah I know haha I already pre ordered my doom Eternal copy

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But will be playing doom 64 on switch a lot! I see in game stop doom eternal release date for witch is 12/20/2020 so the switch has a LONG wait !

noble moat
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That’s just a place holder

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What platform u pre order eternal for?

woven pecan
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I think imma preorder it tomorrow, yeah doom 64 is a nice bonus, but damn that doot be lookin nice

exotic flint
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PC and oh lol well it’s done but I bought the deluxe edition

noble moat
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I’m waiting for it to appear in the eshop b4 I pre order it

raven parrot
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So the options are either stop trying this rune trial and continue the game or down a beer and try for the next few hours trying to beat it

woven pecan
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Imo i wouldnt go for it on switch unless i would play it on the go. Imo the 30fps is gonna be an oddity

noble moat
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I don’t remember what that trial asks for

woven pecan
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Or i think it will be 30

exotic flint
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I just beat doom 2016 on switch and honestly i love it even tho it’s running 30fps

noble moat
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I play doom 2016 Nightmare handheld no gyro, no issues. 30fps is fine

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For me anyways, I don’t need high frames

exotic flint
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Extremely fine ! Same here !!

raven parrot
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Saving throw, gauss cannon seige mod kill 9 enemies with 1 health

woven pecan
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These 2 are too dangerous to be kept alive lol

exotic flint
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I had not problem playing the game on switch your going to be waiting awhile for the eternal to come to wagon

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Lol hater haha

noble moat
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Ah that one, use your gauss as a dash, run, get behind a pillar, siege around pillar Use as a dash’s next repeat

raven parrot
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Not bothering with it, I'm fine not having 2 runes

woven pecan
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Anyone else try to go up/across things that you cant normally by using the gauss as a boost?

noble moat
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Nah I don’t play with skips. I do kill all or nothing

exotic flint
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I kill everything as well haha

woven pecan
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I normally kill everything but for some reason level 2 ruined gore nests for me

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I avoid them at all costs

exotic flint
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WHy? Lol

woven pecan
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One word. Imp

exotic flint
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How did it ruin it for you

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Lol blast them fools

noble moat
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Yeah that gore nest is a pain in thr ass tbh

woven pecan
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I just started an ultra nightmare, got to level 2 earlier so thats gonna be fun tomorrow

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Thankfully we dont have to do the intro either

noble moat
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Ah man gl. I’m doing UN on my switch

woven pecan
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Nice, gl, dont get sniped by an imp

noble moat
woven pecan
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Imps used to piss me off instantly, i remember one time almost yelling fucking imp

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Now their just a big fuck you. Not too bad but the more there are the more it affects you

timid citrus
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god i love gauss jumping mid combat, get to the high ground without having to make my way to the boost pad

copper kernel
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For me the more emps the more fun cause its pretty accelerating on nightmare with alot of demons like that just kills my boredom instantly

forest bridge
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Is there aa steam group for people who still play doom 2016 multiplayer? I can't seem to find a match

fresh hearth
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@noble moat that Imp glory kill is my absolute favorite

noble moat
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I didn’t know it even existed until 100 hours of doom later

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Super cool looking tho

tribal rivet
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using the gauss for mobility is extremely fun! Also if you are going across a gap and you need just a little more distance, gauss straight down. It’ll help you hover, think Dusk’s crossbow

harsh relic
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Or Force of Nature from TF2

copper kernel
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So i beat doom on ultra nightmare

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Didnt get an achievement

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So this is what accomplishment feels like

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Its pretty crap

sinful beacon
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congratulations

copper kernel
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Mhm

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I hope u get something for doom eternal if u beat it on ultra nightmare

tribal rivet
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You do, per Marty. Not sure what yet though! @copper kernel great job on the UN clear

raven parrot
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Just beat 2016 at 2:20am

west remnant
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yuh yuh aye

raven parrot
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I love the Doom Guy doll fighting the Pinky in credits

obsidian mural
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Can you gauss boost on console

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I tried it once it just felt clunky

rare lagoon
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you can

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but it may just work better at higher frame rates

winged wigeon
fossil island
woven pecan
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Arcade mode messed up my first try at nightmare

winged wigeon
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Id software needs to have a serious talk with Nintendo. I was thinking of having Isabelle make a cameo appearance or an easter egg exclusive content in Eternal for the Switch. That would make both fans happy.

fossil island
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Dont upgrade your Video drivers to Radeon Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.2.2 !!!
https://i.imgur.com/4wzib8X.png

DOOM may experience an intermittent system hang or application crash during gameplay.

elder meadow
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Oh frick

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Alright then

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Good to know

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They better not auto update

tribal rivet
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@obsidian mural @rare lagoon you should be able to just fine yes, though gauss boosting isn’t frame rate dependent. Railboosts and BFG tendril damage (most notable in boss fights) are, however

rare lagoon
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neat

neat crown
fossil island
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How the fuck is it possible to get 23 MILLION points?! wtf!!

fringe quest
elder meadow
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i've heard that there's some people that used cheats to get themselves to the top of the leaderboard