there is always 2
#doom-2016
devout ibex
tribal rivet
each level has 2, I wondered if it was the doll since you hadn’t gotten the cell yet
dusky raptor
Yeah right at the end when you speak to Vega & Samuel
There's a pair of crates
and a vent
fossil island
devout ibex
room with the Argent Cell, to the left of it
fossil island
in that area?
dusky raptor
Yep see that platform that's alone
tribal rivet
facing the argent cell door from the entrance, go left. Climb boxes into a vent
fossil island
yeah
dusky raptor
To the left of the yellow marker?
fossil island
Awesome! Thanks guys! <3
fossil island
trying to do a 100% savegame :D
tribal rivet
Codices too?
tribal rivet
you’ll want 11 weapon points before GKing the spider with everything maxed
Like 16? If you load a file to go back
dusky raptor
Why 11?
fossil island
can u go back and do stuff u forgot later?
dusky raptor
Yeah
dusky raptor
Yep, you can go back to previous levels
tribal rivet
11 weapon points is how many you have left over if you do everything in game and spend them all on weapons @dusky raptor , pre spider (is when UN 100% checks since it can’t load the file after the GK), though she gives another 5-6 upon death
So if you go back, you have more
tribal rivet
Depends. I like a mix of health and ammo. Also note later on if you decide to save ammo cells, they also refill your BFG
tribal rivet
welcome! Though it’s nice early on to have ammo too
dusky raptor
Oh nice nice
Is it worth the 100% run? I've been trying to but I find myself in super risky situations when grabbing quests like "To Be Knighted"
For UN this is
fossil island
i rly want to try 100% UN before eternal comes out ^^
dusky raptor
It's a lot easier said than done, I'm just trying to finish UN normally and I can't get passed Argent Tower
dusky raptor
tribal rivet
Woot!
I’d say do regular UN first. And yeah to be knighted can be troll when you have the short stagger knight bug.
But what’s nice is the rune glitch where you can wear any slot whenever 👀
old onyx
Ahhh yeah, this is the shit. Falling right back into the groove.
Also you wanna talk about short stagger knight? How about Drop Dead Stagger Knight?
I had to happen while working on that challenge. One of the staggered HK's just dropped dead for no reason.
Awww shied, Equipment Power rune.
Oh here we go bois.
tribal rivet
Yeah I’d say do a more pure run first
coarse sparrow
You can make one in theory with snap maps
weary vault
I hope they add an endless mode in eternal
exotic cave
Have I got news for you
elder turret
ocean flicker
Hey guys! Nice seeing this community! Just got the game on PS4, it is nice but I heard of the glitches and bugs related to the trophies and I'm kinda bummed. It is possible to get the Platinum?
I believe I found a glitch in the 2nd mission where I had all the secrets completed but I didn't find them all
fossil island
you can do platinum
only the multiplayer part can be tricky if you live in a area where not many players are playing the MP
elder meadow
where can i post vids about doom 2016
ebon ridge
showroom @elder meadow
elder meadow
ty
ebon ridge
no problem
elder meadow
ok i posted what i found funny
sonic rune
is it normal to play doom eternal music while playing doom 2016
fair sinew
yes cuz all of mick gordons music sounds the same
stark lintel
Paddlefruit#5339 yeah the demon prison in the fortress of doom is an endless mode from what I can tell
fair sinew
would prefer something else myself
like a horde mode where you can upgrade between waves
noble moat
I want that
@stark lintel it’s not endless sadly. Unless it has an extra endless feature it does end
gentle panther
We need massive endless killrooms in Eternal
The gameplay footage seen so far makes it look like an ideal fit
stark lintel
@noble moat oh ok that sucks
sonic rune
i like to do no highlight on glory kills
unborn tapir
Doom 2016 was great but the glory kills got more and more repetitive
open nebula
gotta aim at the body part for glory kills
noble moat
Half the glory kills were the same but directional
Punch punch in front
Punch punch on side
Punch punch diagonal
Punch punch behind etc
Granted sum were cool
Eternal, on the other hand like 90% of these look
open nebula
legs tho
id say double what you said, and then include the top down one
there might be two top down ones for back and front
noble moat
Anyone notice the scrapped Doom 4 game
The shotgun is the same as the stock shotgun in 2016?
open nebula
mhm. Ye supershotgun actually surprised me from the original concept
long hazel
yup, I noticed that
those are just the only weapon models we know of that were reused
I suspect all of them are
the plasma gun looks similar to Doom 3's, after all
there's also the reload animations
which in the case of the gauss cannon, indicate that it was a rifle at first
gentle panther
Oof yeah based on the video trailer I saw I am glad Doom 4 got canceled
It looked like it would be a generic COD type game
Thankfully they turned it into a god-tier game
open orchid
Indeed
scarlet gorgeBOT
Indeed!
gentle panther
Indeed
scarlet gorgeBOT
Indeed!
long hazel
yeah it would probably have ended up similar to Wolfenstein 2009 mechanically
hushed vault
a few, yeah
in fact, there's other homages in other tracks
one of them even has Doom 3's theme in it
gentle panther
I never played the original Doom games (yet) but I know the iconic one...I'll try and find a video
hushed vault
IMO PSX Doom's theme works way better as a main theme
gentle panther
The first song that plays here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cixW6rogZ48
long hazel
if you mean the E1M1 theme (At Doom's Gate), then yes
hushed vault
At Doom's Gate is meant to get you pumped up, but I feel PSX Doom's theme represents Doom as a whole rather than just the action part
gentle panther
Oh great :D
hushed vault
long hazel
it even has the same name: https://youtu.be/j05hzwQf8pA
runic sigil
That grinds my gears, I'm kinda triggered now
dreamy trout
@stone matrix In the game’s options
dusty hollow
I’ve heard it be called New Doom. Never have I heard it be called Doom 1.
woven nova
I was born 2003 before i even knew about the other 3 DOOMs and even I know to call it doom 2016 it's just commen sense doom 1 like are you crazy my man
sterile furnace
Wait how do you not know about doom 1993 it’s like one of the most popular games ever
It’s like super famous and there’s a ton of memes about it
sterile furnace
Um achtually Wolfenstein was first
harsh relic
Wasn't that just a reskin of DOOM?
Like it had the same things as doom but you fought a robo hitler at the end
sage patio
Wolfenstein came out before doom i believe
harsh relic
Yep, by 1 year
Or less
But they were both by ID
Wolfensteins og release was 1992, but didnt come out on arcade until 93
It was only on DOS
elder meadow
@harsh relic wolfenstein wasn't a reskin
it used early idtech 1
it had no support for vertical stuff
or shadows
or stairs
or slopes
etc
harsh relic
Then it went through consoles and even gameboy until 2016 when it was released on android
@elder meadow it's not a reskin reskin, but very similar.
Like they're almost the same game
elder meadow
thanks for paraphrasing what i just said
tribal rivet
Wolfenstein wasn’t the very first (catacombs 3d etc was earlier) but it started the wave and doom exploded it
Even back then, a mere year between game releases brought a lot of upgrades
tribal rivet
Google “catacombs 3D”
I don’t even think it was the first, but it was earlier
Windows 3D maze hype 👀
humble hill
Hehe doom (2016)
tribal rivet
Earliest one traces back to 1973
https://www.geek.com/games/the-complete-history-of-first-person-shooters-1713135/
I REMEMBER THAT TANK GAME ON THE ARTICLE!
Ok I’m starting to keep off topic of doom 2016 heh
torn laurel
There's a console in DooM 2016, right?
fossil island
it even resets your FOV aggressively if u go over 130 -.-
torn laurel
I was just gonna ask if I could toggle collision but I fixed my issue the long way by replaying the level before continuing, via mission select.
ornate basin
I hadn’t played 3 so when I found super turbo turkey puncher 3 I was slightly confused
harsh relic
Super turbo turkey puncher is also in 2016 as a secrect arcade machine
ornate basin
I know that’s what i was referring too
ebon forge
so uh. how do i get good at this game 
i want to do a Nightmare run but i'm struggling with Hurt Me Plenty
harsh relic
@ebon forge for me 'keep moving' isnt that great if a strat. Know where every health, ammo, and secret is because you're going to need every upgrade point you can get. Also know what can kill an enemy the fastest and what's effective at what
elder meadow
keep moving but don't make your movement predictable
harsh relic
^
And I highly reccomend getting hazard predator upgrades max asap so you donnt get instantly game ended by your own bullets
harsh relic
Strafing is also great for enemy projectiles, melees, and environments
Pinkies and mancubus rockets are great examples
And if you're on PC keep your crosshair on am enemy at all times or in the direction of an enemy and move with your fingers more. This can be hard so dont worry about being bad
Learning the environment is needed for this^
But if your on console your best bet is to keep moving and shoot enemies when theres enough distance.
And take advantage of verticality, as some enemies cannot use or are poor at it
I know that's alot but having to restart if you die on un makes it almost impossible for me without this stuff
ebon forge
harsh relic
Theres also multiple secrets and 'tricks' to skip or quickly advance in un
ebon forge
im probably not going to grind for UN tbh i just want to do a run on Nightmare
arctic spindle
Grinding demons to paste 
ebon forge
arctic spindle
Work on your aim and reflexes
They are crucial to surviving and taking out enemies
And remember that combat only gets easier as you kill demons
arctic spindle
Don’t push yourself too hard to be good. Once you can beat the game on Ultra Violence you are playing the game on normal mode
But there’s nothing wrong with being better 
elder meadow
I thought I was steamrolling on UV but now I just beat Tower and am in Kadinger rn and it's whooo boy I am sweating
I feel myself getting better and reaction times are better so that's good
elder meadow
The Big Red Horned boi that I forgot his damn name
harsh relic
Baron
elder meadow
ahh yes Baron
harsh relic
I forgot it too 
elder meadow
xd
harsh relic
But kadinger isnt too bad once you get passed the big demons
ebon forge
oh yeah well i can beat Resource Operations on hurt me plenty 
elder meadow
Whomever wants to play on ps4 via part. Holler at me later on
valid galleon
anyone else playing online ever play with a guy named aimbot killer?
zenith pelican
Kadinger UN is hardcore... the level is plagued with arenas full of demons
noble moat
Its fun tho
zenith pelican
fav map of them all... and maybe argent d'nur
it took me like 20 attempts to get the Kadinger UN run
mostly because of crappy keyboard bindings
elder meadow
Question: is there photo mode on Playstation 4?
rare lagoon
for which game
elder meadow
Doom 2016
worldly magnet
yes
rare lagoon
on ps4?
elder meadow
There is?
elder meadow
Okay thank you very much!
rare lagoon
this is news to me
old onyx
Welp, another day, another dose of Doom 2016. Time for a-hinger-diner-kadinger sanctum
ruby crown
does anyone else constantly gauss cannon the hell razer out of spite?
noble moat
U wanna see a REAL LAZER
ruby crown
yes
noble moat
Siege point blank
ruby crown
i use siege mode every shot i take with that gun
exotic cave
a man of culture I see
old onyx
I hate the Sweep The Leg challenge. I swear half the time that I go for the leg it ends up being the back glorykill instead. The hitbox is fucked for that.
ruby crown
i have an opinion but i'm not sure i should say it
sacred coral
So much hype in your name it almost made me scream
ruby crown
you're welcome
ruby crown
eh, i rounded down
elder meadow
ik
ruby crown
just let the hype flow through you
elder meadow
oh it is
old onyx
Anyone have advice with getting the Sweep the Leg challenge?
ruby crown
i am going to say something true yet unwanted
you have been warned
ebon forge
2 weeks and 3 days 
ruby crown
since you've decided to muddy the hype with your lack of rounding, i will say it without remorse
samuel hayden is thicc and nobody is talking about it
old onyx
Why are you guys talking about this here when #doom-eternal exists : x
ruby crown
exactly
ebon forge
Hayden: i only made it clap for the good of humanity
ruby crown
^^^
old onyx
That wasn't a statement that was a question
ruby crown
that's it, i'm grabbing my sketch book
ebon forge
craggy rune
noble moat
Actually its 100 days until eternal ;-;
viscid hawk
So quick question for anyone who can answer. For some reason when I am playing now whenever I go to reload after a death or load a new level the game will freeze. This can be solved every time by ctrl + alt + del and then going back into the game. Idk why this happens and I can't find much to help. I've reinstalled twice, completely emptied the folder after uninstalling. I'm not using Vulkan cause I thought that may be a problem. I'm at a loss.
old onyx
Halp pls, I can't do leg sweep on hell razer for 'Sweep the Leg' challenge. I hate this.
old onyx
Aiming at the leg just makes him push the HR onto his back and then stomp head.
Which doesn't count.
noble moat
U aiming at the right leg?
old onyx
Yes I am aiming at the right leg. Most of the time his right leg is fucking tucked in so it's not possible to do it
eternal anvil
aim at the right leg and come at him from the right side
tribal rivet
@old onyx for the sweep the leg challenge, the best thing to do is think “is he facing right”, and if so, look at the leg and GK from his side. Any video of attempts?
Don’t think left leg right leg. Gets confusing. Just think “he’s looking to the right”
right is right
eternal anvil
he has to be looking to your left tho
eternal anvil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UklXB8z4-H8
oh shit you can do it from either side
i dont think i've ever done it from the left
noble moat
Lol no way
fossil island
i stand in from of him and aim for the left one
tribal rivet
If it’s right leg he would need to be looking to your right
yep! That’s his right leg. Your left
fossil island
just done it a few minutes ago
tribal rivet
but I haven’t done from the front
eternal anvil
i have only ever swept the razer's left leg
tribal rivet
your left, his right
from your POV at the front it looks like left, but from his POV it’s his right
fossil island
Actually its 100 days until eternal ;-;
@noble moat
100 days? o.0
tribal rivet
for switch maybe but we don’t know yet
fossil island
ohh
ebon forge
its actually forever because doom is eternal
fossil island
Argent Facility atm :3
tribal rivet
I may run a Legacy Nightmare run if I have time before Eternal, it has some fun skips. And nice!
legacy = no major glitches. But there’s still some big skips
eternal anvil
*i meant his left
fossil island
https://i.imgur.com/DFSvTOA.jpg
Kadingir a few seconds ago :3
fossil island
yeees
eternal anvil
no what im saying is apparently you can do it from either side
tribal rivet
are you doin codices too?
And are you sure? I’ve not seen much if any footage from the other side
eternal anvil
i'm 100% certain you can do it from the razer's left
acoustic patio
How easy is it to one hundred percent doom 2016
tribal rivet
You can go back if so. And sonic just depends
UN 100% is a lot easier than 0% or PONE
acoustic patio
Aight
eternal anvil
you can see it in the quakecon eternal gameplay too, same glory kill but with the blade
tribal rivet
NM 0% and PONE is hard enough. Only one man has done those on UN. And that’s Byte
acoustic patio
I was there for Quakecon last year funny enough
tribal rivet
Bet that was fun
acoustic patio
It was
tribal rivet
I’d have to fly there
acoustic patio
I live close to it
tribal rivet
Lucky!! That’s sick
acoustic patio
Ikr
tribal rivet
Did you play DE
tribal rivet
That is really cool
acoustic patio
It was
worldly magnet
tokyopunchout hugged me at Bethesda Game Days
tribal rivet
I’d love to go to a doom based event and meet people and play stuff
worldly magnet
yea its hard
tribal rivet
And sometimes I’m sketch about flying. It’s the takeoff, depending where you leave from, that feeling yeeeeeesh
acoustic patio
The doom eternal devs where super nice
And the cosplayers where not bad apart from a 30 year old guy with a beer gut dressed in a cheerleader outfit
old onyx
Ok yeah the trick is to try for the side of the leg, not from behind like the game suggests.
tribal rivet
Side is what I’ve always done
ashen anchor
I was recently playing doom 2016 again and when you meet Samuel Haden for the first time if you stay outside of the doorway and shoot him he says something
worldly magnet
indeed
scarlet gorgeBOT
Indeed!
tribal rivet
You can get your gun back out (but can’t switch) by mantling outside. Also with photo mode you can be outside the office and skip a small part of the cutscene
old onyx
There, Kadingir Sanctum complete 100%. I am most of the way towards Double Trouble, so
south bone
can someone help me boost my xp per match in doom 2016 mp? i just need 2 achievements to 100% doom 2016
fossil island
am i just stupid or is this a dopefish rune thingy?
https://i.imgur.com/j1T1Kbg.png
Loading screen from hell btw
worldly magnet
Lmao, actually kinda does
old onyx
Muhahahaha, Doubletrouble! It begins...!
elder meadow
That really does look similar. Teeth and all!
old onyx
And there's Ultimate Cooling. The two really broken masteries are all mine.
alpine leaf
Welp I just finished playing Doom 2016 and boy was it fun
old onyx
Gr8
noble moat
You watched GmanLives latest video I see, he points out that symbol is dopefish
old onyx
Well, there's today's dose of Doom 2016. I did not exactly enjoy myself, between annoying rune trials, Kadingir Sanctum making a hard argument for being the worst level in 2016 with it's challenges and several exploration-related cheap deaths at Destroyed Argent Facility.
I am very glad Eternal is not going to force more Rune Trials on me.
elder meadow
They're definitely optional
I skip em all the time 👍
ebon forge
got my first slayer medal ayyy 
nocturne basin
I didn't know!! XD
old onyx
Yes but 100%
open nebula
nope but ive seen it elsewhere
bold trench
i only found doom 4 1.0 prototypes
this guy's the only one that made this footage public on youtube as far as i can find
open nebula
and im pretty sure its not "deleted". It wes definitely a concept save
No
I've seen it before in other videos, but not like, directly this in the title
Like development talks
bold trench
honestly i kinda wanted to play call of doom (scrapped doom 4) just to see how it plays
hushed vault
same
open nebula
probably really bad 👀
bold trench
even then
i wanted to have a taste of it
or get my hands on some developer test builds of doom 2016 heheheheh
the ones from the video i sent earlier
restive nacelle
some of those things are in the normal version?
cerulean stirrup
How much do you hate when the doors to backtrack a bit close without a warning? I've resetted Advanced Research Complex four times in a row right now, cause I need those trophies about runes and praetor suit upgrades.
open nebula
I've never had a problem hmm
cerulean stirrup
Never missed a praetor token? Or an upgrade?
elder meadow
it's pretty annoying yeah
cerulean stirrup
Oh fuck off Vega...
old onyx
Not everyone has your skill level though. You can stop flexing now.
open nebula
hmm?
old onyx
I backtrack often in doom levels to get the stuff I missed
It's a little BS imo to come in here and be like "well i never backtrack dood"
As if you're supposed to instantly just know where everything is.
open nebula
but its true. I always go forward and never look back. If I missed something, I know I missed it and thats it. But actually yes, I know where most stuff is
old onyx
That's not acceptable for some people though.
open nebula
It's not skill, its just memorization
old onyx
Alastor is one of those people too
open nebula
I'm sure it isn't, but d16 is built so that you go forwards and cant come back, thats all
old onyx
Me too, just a little.
coarse sparrow
I somehow missed like 1 battle in level 3...
old onyx
Not all the time. There's plenty of points where you can backtrack to find stuff, especially in Argent Facility(Destroyed)
coarse sparrow
Foundry let's you crawl all over it until you get to the very end
elder meadow
i think resource ops lets you explore the entire level even after hayden has talked to you and given you the argent cache
open nebula
mhm, theres like 3 levels I can think of right now that are full of just crossroads
cerulean stirrup
Yeah, Resource Ops lets you backtrack all the way back and get anything you might have missed. Adv Research does not. If you forgot it, start over.
elder meadow
should i try battle mode
open nebula
yes
cerulean stirrup
Campaign comes first.
Battle Mode would essentially be Doom's equivalent of Quake Champions, thanks to the fact that the alternative skins are essentially Canon now.
sonic rune
working on a snapmap which is based on battle-mode but your just facing 2 bots with more health, but i will make a multiplayer one where its actually player vs player
tribal rivet
Nightmare Legacy is a tough category to speedrun, just tried it tonight
there’s a lot of big skips, but you basically do the run with minimal upgrades
just a couple handfuls of weapon points, 3 field drones (explosive shot, micro missiles, siege in laz), handful of praetor tokens, no runes
torn laurel
Here's the thing about 'Call of DooM'.
Even if it might've been a bad game because it had the DooM title.
There's always the chance it still would've been a good game under another.
It's like how DooM 3 isn't considered a 'good' game.
By all accounts, it is a good game, but it's not what people wanted in a DooM title.
2016 is.
elder meadow
how the hell do i pronounce "Argent D'nur"
do i say it like
Ourgehnt DehNour
or Ourgehnt Danir
or Ourgehnt Duhnerr
etc
noble moat
R-gent De Nur
elder meadow
Kadingur Sanctum is latin so it's easy to know how to pronounce it (i can speak latin)
elder meadow
I have a friend that is a huge fan of Doom (and also loves the soundtrack) yet he didn't know who Mick Gordon was until I told him about a week ago
Random but crazy imo
elder meadow
you guys think i can beat it again but on nightmare before eternal arrives?
while managing hw at the same time?
harsh relic
Maybe.
tribal rivet
just depends how much time you can put to it
elder meadow
Is beating the game again on ultra nightmare worth it?
Or is it a mode only if i truly hate myself
||I'm really glad that Doom guy backed up vega before killing him||
fossil island
||I'm really glad that Doom guy backed up vega before killing him||
@elder meadow
He is always angry but not heartless
elder meadow
Very true
halcyon dove
Doom Slayer has so much character and he didn’t even make a noise in D16
south junco
So I heard a theory for this somewhere but I have no idea if it's true
But is the Doom Marine from Doom 3 the Doom Slayer?
As in, is Doom 2016 technically a sequel to Doom 3
Despite ID software saying it's a reboot
full gull
I doubt it since the doom marine from 3 is back on Mars at the end
south junco
But what if something happened between the games
full gull
That’s a bit of a reach, you could say that for all the doom games arguably
elder meadow
But it can't be the doom marine because the slayer is over a thousand years old
rare lagoon
the marine and slayer are different i think
minor pond
The characters that show less character are the best characters
elder meadow
Question of the day who would win a fight doom slayer or kratios
rare lagoon
yes
old onyx
the marine and slayer are different i think
whistles casually
halcyon dove
DS got range advantage
harsh relic
Well kratos has his axe
rare lagoon
but, gun
fossil island
Anyone who completed the campaign on "normal" difficulty or did a casual playthrough
Go for the Nightmare 100% run. I can assure you it is a hell lot of fun! (no pun intended)
It is like a complete new game or at least experience, challenging and rewarding.
And you will be very proud of yourself for every level you completed by doing every challenge and found every secret, token etc.
And its not just that, then all the rune challenges
it just feels so good mastering all that stuff ❤️
So guys and girls if you are not sure if this is something u wanna try, i can say: Go for it! Its amazing! 
old onyx
I've tried it, and I just got angry.
I didn't feel accomplished when I cleared a level, I just felt tired.
tribal rivet
UN isn’t for everyone, I usually quicksave like crazy in classic doom so I never thought I’d try it
Once you clear NM with a low death count you think “on a good day, it could happen”, that’s what I waited on before I started
old onyx
Nightmare is never something I will clear on a low death count. Or clear period. I completed Foundry and decided it was not for me.
I'm never gonna go up to people and say "You must do Nightmare, it's fun!™️"
Because there's plenty of people who are not gonna be able to deal with NM.
rare lagoon
nightmare is fun if you enjoy that kind of thing. Personally I'll only ever go up to Ultra Violence unless a trophy says otherwise.
rare lagoon
dynamic res scaling is a nice thing
acoustic patio
Indeed
scarlet gorgeBOT
Indeed!
tribal rivet
NM gets easier after the first few levels, but it just depends what ya want outta the game
old onyx
Ok so anyone have suggestions on when to try for the Thread the Needle challenge in lazarus labs?
rare lagoon
which one is that again?
old onyx
Lazarus labs, kill 8 enemies in one shot.
rare lagoon
that's when you get the bfg right?
old onyx
This is the level after getting the BFG.
I already tried it in the first arena and somehow I didn't get the challenge even though I absolutely meatshotted a shitload of enemies
rare lagoon
oh. Wait how did i manage that challenge? I know I did it but how is another question entirely
halcyon dove
There’s a room a bit later on with an open flat space and a LOT of unwilling
coarse sparrow
Use the railgun
halcyon dove
Pinkies join the fun later on
coarse sparrow
siege mode.
rare lagoon
ah i remember now after looking it up you kite a bunch of possessed at the bottom of an elevator into the right spot and then fire a bfg shot
tribal rivet
@old onyx when you drop down the first elevator at the start of the level, I jump and shoot it down that hallway
final arena could also work with the million imps around!
old onyx
Yeah i'll have to go with the final arena
tribal rivet
Have you tried that first hallway
old onyx
Too late
tribal rivet
How far in are ya now
old onyx
Approaching the second arena I think
Where is the classic level secret in here tho?
My memory is a little bad
tribal rivet
After the cathedral
you pull the lever before riding up that elevator that requires a switch. Drop down
tribal rivet
echoes? 👀 I must have missed those
old onyx
I remember now
tribal rivet
you could try that room before the final drop down
old onyx
In the 'cathedral' the UAC employee echoes are doing hell rituals
tribal rivet
if it’s NM and final arena doesn’t work you can load checkpoint
Ohh yea that
old onyx
There we go. Thread the Needle is check.
Time to play some Demon Destruction.
I.....think I just fucked myself out of the classic map
rare lagoon
oof
old onyx
I hate backtracking blockers.
I rode the elevator and don't see a way to send it back down now that I see where the classic map is
Ah wait no there it is. Phew.
ebon forge
i accidentally did a glory kill door clip at the end of argent tower pro skills
old onyx
So ah where are the two rune trials? I only see one on the map, even with the third exploration upgrade unlocked for the automap, where it auto-fills.
Yeah there's the saving throw trial
.....I didn't miss my chance to get Rich get Richer did I.....oh fuck...
I did. 
elder turret
old onyx
That's going to be a replay.
elder meadow
!Vega
tribal rivet
You can go back and grab it @old onyx , then just dip outta the map I believe
so just play up to that point
you can even skip the first arena with a gauss boost
old onyx
Eugh no, much much too late.
Time to break the game over my knee now tho
There it is. Now to do the final step, so I can break the rest of this game over my knee.
rare lagoon
it will break you back
old onyx
Got it. Rich get Richer 2.
rare lagoon
electric chainsaw boogaloo
old onyx
Electric Chaingun Boogalo, more like.
tribal rivet
Very nice. What way did you master it? There’s a cool trick in the slime pits of TR to do it
tribal rivet
Yea you can use siphon and the acid pools to quickly top it off
old onyx
Naw, I just went back into Lazarus labs and did the ol' cheesy Micromissile self-harm.
The first arena has more than enough armor shards to do the job.
tribal sorrel
I was 2 short of the goal for powerup, then I noticed the one at the end of Argent tower and wasn't fast enough to kill 2 and finish it 
harsh relic
😔
regal idol
What's everyone's favorite level?
old onyx
Advanced Research Facility.
karmic flax
Foundry feels really dynamic
hushed vault
yeah
elder meadow
VEGA Centeral Processing.
It's down and dirty combat with a gorgeous backdrop
old onyx
ARF is my favorite. VEGA Complex is great, but this thing has a solid structured plot, and culminates in you acquiring the BFG, which is excellent.
karmic flax
I love that one too
burnt badger
Kadingir for me, I like the desolate style, the music, and the Cacos and Barons appearing for the first time
karmic flax
Too bad I don’t know how to clip out of samuels lecture
old onyx
Somehow I know someone was gonna bring up Kadingir. I hate Kadingir.
It's fine if you're not trying to 100%.
burnt badger
But in terms of gameplay, probably Argent Facility and Foundry a bit more, since you have some flexibility in objective orders
Makes it feel a bit more like a classic level where you have to backtrack sometimes
My least favourite is probably Lazarus, too tight with so many damned Imps
And very linear
karmic flax
That damn imp room
burnt badger
The actual layout of the whole level is really cool when you look at it, but it's just arena connected by hallway in terms of gameplay
karmic flax
Yeah
burnt badger
So like a design point of view it looks cool, I just don't like the way it plays as much
karmic flax
And the unskippable cruicible cutscene that screams in your ear
old onyx
I like the crucible cutscene. What I did not like, was the cutscene when you are going from upper Lazarus to lower Lazarus.
burnt badger
That one never bothered me, but only because I have a decent PC so loading times are good
hushed vault
I fucking hated the area after the train in VCP
burnt badger
When I see it on console, it's annoying though since it repeats like three times
hushed vault
it'd probably what I'd go to for an example on 2016's bad sound mixing
elder meadow
Cutscenese are just extra time to grab some food
hushed vault
how the fuck was I supposed to know a Baron was coming up behind me?
karmic flax
Oh yeah the elevator scene is even worse for lazarus
Dude the train part is honestly a great example of why eternal mechanics were so needed lol
hushed vault
I don't think Barons even have footstep sounds
karmic flax
Demons warping in spontaneously would make it so that all of your positioning was bad no matter what
A lot of the fight relies on you using BFG instead of just good movement
And yeah the barons are strangely quiet
elder meadow
the only sounds I know from the barons are the loud thumps when a fireball hits something/they pounce and hit the ground
grim heron
Foundry is my favorite layout
but VEGA or D'Nur has my favorite fights
regal idol
I hate the layout of foundry
karmic flax
Their fireballs sound like giant rubber balls it’s actually kinda comical
tribal rivet
VEGA train has rhyme and reason to it
kill 2 barons, 2 cyber manc spawn in, when the 2nd is staggered, summoner comes in, when she’s dead, the final trail mix assortment comes in
tribal rivet
It’s a cereal box of “Oops! All Demons” cause it’s Variety is the Spice of Death out there.
forest geyser
Just redownloading doom 2016, so hyped to play it again in the lead up to eternal!!!
elder meadow
I've been playing the MP a lot recently, actually kind of like it tbh
I'm mostly doing it to get the two achievements I have left at this point though
regal idol
I've been wanting to play the MP on stream
stone matrix
Why would you uninstall doom in the first place
coarse sparrow
Increases screen tearing tho
red onyx
I keep Doom 2016 uninstalled because even though I love the game, it’s like 90gbs
And I almost never play MP or SnapMaps
noble moat
On pc and consoles except switch. It’s a level editor creation tool
violet hinge
player made creations, using tools made by id
noble moat
You can make and play player created MPs
violet hinge
allows people to make whole new gamemodes and game logic
shrewd canyon
eternal anvil
this has happened to me twice
1st time the mastermind glitched out and did a 180 after it was on like one health so i couldnt do any damage, second time an imp charge shotted me from behind on the last arena out of nowhere
burnt badger
Damn not seen that glitch before. It does have a weird invulnerability stage just before it becomes fully crippled, but after that I never saw such a thing 
eternal anvil
i'd literally never seen it turn around on the final stage like that, it caught me completely off guard and then i died in all those random undodgeable lasers from its ass
burnt badger
Yeah they can be pretty hard to dodge since it spins around, but usually it doesn't spin that crazy
cinder python
I basically take the cutscenes as time to do my taxes
thanks ID for not getting me in trouble with the IRS
tribal rivet
The spider glitch? Where if you kill the pillar as she picks it up or somethin
elder meadow
doomguy (2016) is a simp
change my mind
eternal anvil
if he were a simp he wouldn't have killed olivia
elder meadow
true true
old onyx
This is coming from a generic halflife 1 player spawn token
elder meadow
maybe sam is a simp
cinder python
Doomslayer literally spent billions of years in hell murdering demons
he is the biggest thing AWAY from a simp
eternal anvil
he's only a simp when compared to doom eternal slayer
rustic swan
but they're the same guy
tribal rivet
doom 2016 on a controller without aim assist is tough! With it on it’s such a crazy difference.
I’m over at my in laws on their Xbox, they have game pass, turns out it’s free now on game pass? It wasn’t a few weeks ago
eternal anvil
they are the same guy but two years apart
grand palm
old onyx
You're just here to shitpost ain'tcha
noble moat
Nah cuz possessed loud af
old onyx
Not you, info_player_start I mean
old onyx
Their agility makes them real nasty to deal with, for sure.
woven pecan
I was playing on nightmare with a bud on a call, i go in to play, and it feels off, turns out the difficulty went down to hurt me plenty, on the 7th level on our first go at the game. So im back at the second gore nest.
fickle dew
been playing doom 2016 on nightmare for practice before doom eternal
Im on the argent tower level, that arena in the center before you start climbing it where the mancubus is introduced is so hard holy shit
old onyx
There is an invuln artifact iirc....?
tribal rivet
In the one above it, that ones a quad arena
Don’t kill off the first manc right away, it’ll spawn in more. Stun him or just run off to the side, grab the quad his jumppad . Then a manc will spawn in beside you on that platform. wreck him and keep going
Grabbing powerups in arenas at the end or when you’ve taken hits is beneficial for the full heal, but this one is good at the start. Also to consider if you can nearly finish the arena by the time the powerup is finished, depending if you have the suit upgrade, which you basically can by then even if you fill up environment
@fickle dew hope that helps! ^^^
fickle dew
I did itttt I saved the mancubus for last
copper kernel
Been practicing on ultra nightmare for doom eternal its easy but just fuck pinkys always assholes
open nebula
They give ya da boop
silk moss
Anyone with the switch version? I've read switch doesn't get snapmap builder but can download from other creators. Can anyone confirm?
elder meadow
switch is ass. $300 to play at 30fps? no thanks especially when I got my xbox one x for 250 and it can run 4k 60fps
tribal rivet
Controller play is HARD especially without aim assist
open nebula
i mean, xbox one x was realeased at 500 no?
frigid pecan
@elder meadow It's not true 4K and it can only do 60fps on some titles, not all.
elder meadow
@frigid pecan the switch does 30fps on all titles with low-med graphics settings
frigid pecan
That's beside the point. Nintendo has never claimed to be cutting edge in terms of graphical fidelity. They have their own style and shtick that works for their branding.
cold thicket
oh hi hex
frigid pecan
Hello Aera.
cold thicket
not surprised to see you here
frigid pecan
Hahaha. 😛
cold thicket
i came to see for doom emojis
frigid pecan
Lots of classic doom ones. :3
woven pecan
When you have to grind out 5 levels in an hour on nightmare
runic sigil
I am speeeeeeed
clever nova
ez
rustic swan
i'm playing on nightmare and i keep forgetting the powerups exist
i just walk by them after i finish the arena and think "oh that would have made it a little easier"
elder meadow
I can't find a single multiplayer lobby 😦
sage patio
People dont buy switch for the graphics my guy
People play nintendo because they have better first party games
amber cairn
Anyone here play on xbox one? I can't find games and need someone to play with
@tribal rivet you play on xbox one?
west dagger
Mancubus are fairly easy to deal with, and i feel like they'll be easier to deal with in eternal
elder meadow
In what world is controller play hard?
I find it harder with aim assist than without
elder meadow
How
west dagger
I feel like joycons were mainly made for arcade experiences
normal quarry
get a switch pro controller man
elder meadow
Literally any console player will disagree with you
normal quarry
joycons are meh
halcyon dove
Right stick is at awkward position but their travel is also pretty cramped compared to DS4
west dagger
I've played with joycons and other consoles
halcyon dove
Even with a grip its still painful
elder meadow
That’s just the shitty Nintendo design
halcyon dove
I would def get the third party joycon redesigns that closely resemble 360/One or DS4
normal quarry
imo the 360 controller is the comfiest, but YMMV
elder meadow
I don’t like Xbox controllers
halcyon dove
Ha ha ha
ha
Don’t fuss about it
Its not a problem
Can’t even be a problem
Because there are no snapmaps on switch
silk moss
I thought I read one could still download maps just not make them.
halcyon dove
Considering its multiplatform but has some maps with insane amount of logic they took the safe route
That’s a weird exploit
silk moss
I'm trying to see if it's actually so.
fossil island
Any tips how to kill barons quick?
halcyon dove
Chainsaw or BFG
Okay, real answer - keep firing either rockets or gauss
And grenades
old quarry
If you can time it right 2 guass charges
worldly magnet
Stun shot them
old quarry
stun is also good and if your good enough at strafing around his attacks super shotgun works but not as quickly as the other 2
daring violet
I typically just spam super shotgun and gauss cannon, nothing that duo cant handle
west dagger
Easy way for me is to land a grenade, empty some micro rockets, another grenade then precision gauss to the head, that get a glory kill
daring violet
I also have a question, which does more damage for gauss: Precision Bolt or Siege Mode
west dagger
Precision does more damage with a higher stopping power. Siege will still do a lot of damage but will instead pierce enemies
The main reason is that it's more direct, so if you place it right, it's damage output is extremely high. And since its quicker, it has a higher dps anyway
west dagger
No problem
tribal rivet
@amber cairn I’m on pc sorry! I tried DOOM on Xbox at someone’s house
elder meadow
Just shoot it till it dies
west dagger
Yeah that typically works
harsh relic
Siege mode also has a larger area of effect. Precision is just a thin bolt while Siege has an entire tunnel
noble moat
I may have encountered a bug on switch when playing Arcade mode
Sometimes the siege mode didn’t seem to do any aoe damage
It only damaged what it hit.
old quarry
Small but annoying glitch
gilded hill
noble moat
Usually swapping to a different weapon fixed the aoe bug, but when u expect to kill a horde and kill 1 imp it hurts, literally
fossil island
im still on my 100% Nightmare run @flat pecan
Just dont have the time to finish it 
flat pecan
I an not good enough for nightmare
noble moat
If i can do nightmare on a switch handheld with no gyro. You can too. Practice makes for a good player
regal idol
Doom on the switch sounds like a nightmare ngl
sterile furnace
I’m gonna do nightmare eventually
Never ultra nightmare
I think I’m getting better though I’m breezing through ultra violence
noble moat
Yeah u need hella patience to do UN
tribal rivet
Being used to pc, I played Xbox doom demo at someone’s house and MAN is it weird without aim assist. With it on feels like cheating.
Curious how the switch feels in relation! No gyro meaning you can’t tilt the switch to aim it seems?
noble moat
Yeah. Gyro is motion aiming, I keep motion aiming off
tribal rivet
For the challenge?
noble moat
As for the aim assist. If you are playing right, you are never close enough for aim assist to do all the work. At mid to far range its only a slight assist. So you still do most of the aiming yourself
Actually I just dont like gyro. I dont like tilting my siwtch
tribal rivet
I only played UAC but it felt so much easier with it
noble moat
Difficulty?
tribal rivet
I’m not used to controllers for fps. About the tilt I gotcha
Was on NM, it was the demo I downloaded on their Xbox
I usually do UN/challenge runs on PC
tribal rivet
aim assist off was tough to get through that first arena outside the elevator. Then I replayed with it on and didn’t die.
Ohhh yeah 🤘 wish you could stream it
noble moat
Yeah people keep asking if i had footage or such, but since i only play handheld there is no way to record it
Unless I like mount a go pro on my forehead or something
tribal rivet
You’d probably need a capture card
noble moat
And some special external usb-c special cables and set ups. And those are not entirely safe
tribal rivet
Not safe??
autumn cloud
@noble moat I play doom on switch do you want to play?
noble moat
I dont do onlin e
autumn cloud
Ok
noble moat
No Nintendo online
red onyx
Gyro > sticks but I dunno I’m too used to sticks for controllers
fossil island
Can someone explain me this thing and how i should master it? :x
https://i.imgur.com/EqmRyeM.png
how long is this thing active?
rare lagoon
a couple of seconds i think. Reload the save at a high difficulty. Maybe the area where 4 barons spawn?
fossil knot
So purrty much. You play DnD in doom.
rare lagoon
Demons and Doom slayers
burnt badger
@fossil island Basically you want to find an area with lots of demons, get killed / kill yourself, then use BFG to clear them out
fossil island
yeah i watched a video a moment ago, how long is the slowmo?
bcause i need this in ONE run
and i dont want to screw up :D
burnt badger
Not sure precisely, something like 5 seconds, but I think if you have vacuum on it's shorter since you absorb the health
So make sure you get the kills, then put vacuum on
compact crater
Anyone still plays MP?
fossil island
after i finished my 100% Nightmare run i will play MP again ^^
rare lagoon
MP on ps4 was pretty active last night
compact crater
Hmm, Im on PC. I can't find matchs.
rare lagoon
pc might not be as populated.
rare lagoon
idk tho. But I forgot how fun infernal run could be
you tried the teamplay playlist?
compact crater
trying it now
rare lagoon
it's normally got more people in it, mainly for soul harvest
compact crater
Hm, got it. Thanks.
fossil island
Titan Realm on Nightmare boyz and girlz...
Wish me luck :D
fossil knot
-various chanting-
fossil island
and i still have to master the saving throw rune, on that level 
fossil knot
You'll get the hang of it in about 3 tries.
Just think about being Max Payne in first person.
fossil island
rare lagoon
max payne in first person but death fears you
naive gyro
Doom 2016 multiplayer still gets my pp hard. Love killin' and taunting
fossil island
https://i.imgur.com/Ac7jKTX.jpg
ohh yeeees
elder meadow
Is anyone evan playing multiplayer?
fossil island
On PC? yes
fossil knot
Rich get Richer is Extreme dumb.
fossil island
Those where the last 3 i had to master, so thats not that dumb :D
fossil island
oh and btw. even if i use it. Its my first 100% nightmare run
old onyx
Made it to VEGA Processing. What's the best place to get Gore Pinata challenge?
dusky raptor
Which difficulty you on?
old onyx
Ultra-Violence
old onyx
Fuck. Looks like i'm not 100%-ing Vega core.
I forgot the second praetor chip
Okay so I got hit by a cacodemon's ball, and it legit tilted itself back and laughed at me.
noble moat
They do be like that sometimes
heavy sluice
rare ice
so i played a bit of the multiplayer
and good lord double shotties is nutty
with the way weapon switching/comboing works in doom 2016, i can kinda see why loadouts are a thing in the multiplayer. If you had access to the doom 2016 equivalent of the unholy trinity, SSG, Gauss, and Rockets, people would die very quick in multiplayer, faster than they already do
elder meadow
Transistor Fist is literally my fav one of them all!
old onyx
VEGA Processing, easily.
noble moat
My ultimate goal is to buy this one day and beat doom on nightmare with it
It is THE most uncomfortable controller in the planet
Only issue is
1: it’s $100
2: see reason 1
old onyx
Okay I need help. I cannot seem to get the "Hold Still" challenge, which is basically to kill the barons at the third arena in one hit
For whatever reason, the BFG seems to not be an acceptable answer to that?
This is on Argent D'Nur, obviously.
violet hinge
Yeah BFG doesn't work, use the quad with siege gauss @old onyx
bitter summit
Y'know I just realized that there's an artifact in Hayden's office that reveals the crucible as a sword
old onyx
It is DONE.
Now to take care of spoder
And there it is. Doom 2016, done and done. Now I gotta just...somehow, keep myself entertained until the 20th. Oof...
noble moat
I want to make a note that I’d prob be done with switch UN by now if my left Joycon wasn’t fucked up
violet hinge
@old onyx it actually ended one of Byte's WR pace UN 100% runs a few weeks ago lol
old onyx
RIP. I got very salty just doing it on UV. I'm never doing Nightmare.
violet hinge
nightmare is where the fun is
noble moat
I have to put my UN run on hold =/
I need to somehow send in my joycon to get it replaced
3 years and the cons are still the biggest con of the switch
old onyx
No, not fun Zexxy. """""fun™️"""""
elder meadow
the fun zone
elder meadow
pain and pleasure are the same
rare ice
nightmare is where an imp slaps you for all of your armor and half a health bar, after you just picked up a megasphere
elder meadow
nah but that's fine, play whatever difficulty you have fun with
noble moat
Nightmare is most fun imo. At least for me anyways
rare ice
even being super reckless with your ammo doesn't guarantee an imp won't just stuff his hand in your pants
the jank with enemy attacks really comes to life there
old onyx
nnnnno?
south junco
I tend to allocate specific weapons for each demon as well
old onyx
It takes more than 'just move forehead'
south junco
but I do just move forehead
rare ice
that one room with the haste and quad before the cyberdemon
i was dodging an imp projectile, and a pinky charged below me and flung me across the map
fossil knot
Ultraviolence and above for teens. Below for preadolescent growth stages.
old onyx
I try that and I die Broodles
So obviously there is more involved than 'just move forehead'
south junco
then you aren't moving fast enough
old onyx
rare ice
it's even worse when you super shotty an imp that's stuck to a wall charging a fireball
and he doesn't die. He doesn't even fall off. He just hurls the big fireball at you and kills you instantly
old onyx
I glue the movement keys all the way down, don't you tell me I ain't movin' fast enough
rare ice
it's not just moving fast enough, but knowing when and where to move
old onyx
And yes that can just eat dicc.
elder meadow
oh if you see an imp crawling on a wall either get out of sight or just instagib it
old onyx
Yes Durp, I suppose that is it.
south junco
I just move at random
rare ice
timing health and armor and powerup pickups
i usually save the powerups for when i'm below 100 health
and then grab them for a quick restore
however, i will say, i sometimes screw myself over by forgetting i can BFG or Chainsaw, or I forget I can use siege mode, or I switch to the wrong weapon and either don't fire OR i rocket myself at super close range
south junco
I generally focus on and prioritise enemies and zone out the others, making quick work of them or just unconsciously dodging them. When you're able to dodge 5 imps all firing from different places at different times without so much as even looking to see that they're there in the first place, while simultaneously duelling 3 hell knights then you're gootchi
south junco
I know but one thing I found was hard was duelling them with the artillery I didn't know was there
rare ice
what keeps getting me really tilted is the enemy that plagues us all since the og games
south junco
I had to learn to basically expect everything all at once and dodge
rare ice
damned revenants
south junco
which I found the best way was to just move at random and never stop in the first place
revenants are ez
rare ice
i burn all my ammo or chainsaw the summoner, but not before an extra hell knight shows up and divides my attention
south junco
well, they can't summon summoners but what I mean is increasing the size of the enemies numbers
I just super shotgun them and stalk them
rare ice
gauss cannon or rocket burst
south junco
they don't usually summon when they're in constant danger
rare ice
I don't risk it with super shotty
south junco
I usually go super shotty on everything
rare ice
if i'm close enough for a super shotty, there's likely another enemy getting ready to light me up
south junco
except mancubus, they soak damage too much
rare ice
imps can get the whole shotgun though
rare ice
i lane enemies and then just weave around the room to kill off stragglers
mancubi, it depends on how far away they are
if I see them spawn a good ways off, i mobile turret and burn them down
old onyx
The cybermancubus teeters on the edge of "Too tanky to be remotely fun to kill"
south junco
I make sure to take out the mancubi quickly or from a distance
elder meadow
FUCK the cyber mancubus holy shit
south junco
I can't deal with that firepower on top of everything else
rare ice
if they're too close, I use the unholy trinity on them until they die
gauss/ssg/rocket+burst
usually dies in a rep and a half
south junco
I just take out the siege gauss or the sentry gattelling gun
3 hits from siege and they're dead
noble moat
Mobile turret rips and tears
rare ice
the mancubi usually make me breathe a sigh of relief. Idk why but they're easier for me to deal with
it's the small and fast shits like imps and revenants and spectres that drive me up the wall
south junco
see I'm the opposite
noble moat
Yeah mancubus are no issue. Even cyber ones attack less often
south junco
those guys for me are real easy to deal with but I yeet out once the mancubus arrives
I'd take 5 barons over 5 mancubi any day
noble moat
If anything line up enemies and siege them towards mancubus for collat damage
old onyx
I've been fucked over by the cybermancubus's charge-up floor bile shit too many times, cannot agree.
elder meadow
i rarely have problems with the mancubus but the cyber-mancubus just fucks me idk
and it's not even the acid that covers the floors that's fucking me up
south junco
if I have quad damage or berserk, I usually target the mancubi first
get the heavy hitters out
I can brawl with the brawlers easily
and the range enemies I can dodge
rare ice
mancubi are slow enough that i can ignore them and kill the faster moving enemies before i go chew them up
elder meadow
also I don't think I've ever had problems with revenants unless I'm playing really stupidly
south junco
just those damn mancubi
rare ice
it's less of the revenants killing me
and more of them dividing my attention and opening me up to stupid enemies like imps or spectres
and the occasional hell knight that i forget to clap
cinder python
is everyone here enjoying 2016
south junco
obv
rare ice
i stopped my nightmare run at the hell guardians
cinder python
the bosses on nightmare are great
rare ice
i have an assignment that's due tomorrow and also i just have to actually dedicate a session to dealing with these goons
south junco
I think the main reason I can move around so easily and easily deal with the enemies is due to my awareness in every area
bitter summit
Trying to 100% nightmare now
rare ice
the cyberdemon was easy as expected
south junco
I am constantly listening and flicking my head around for little glimpses
so I already know the battlefield
cinder python
one thing I love about nightmare
is that your forced to constantly update your combat situation
south junco
even so I usually stick to the same stuff
cinder python
like if your not up to date on whats going on at all times your going to die.
rare ice
^
south junco
you don't need everything up to date
just make sure you have at least one thing for each situation
at all times
rare ice
this is why i have issues with imps/spectres
you look away for one second and suddenly all the imps have changed positions
elder meadow
ultra-nightmare amplifies that by like four times and that's why I enjoy it so much
rare ice
and there's like two or three pinkies or spectres looking for you
elder meadow
it's thrilling imo
south junco
I stay away from trying to complete ultra nightmare, I just play for fun since I know I can't beat it
with the amount of times I die in nightmare despite my boasting at how simple I can deal with things, ultra nightmare is practically impossible
south junco
since despite how I say these things are easy, you can safely bet the only reason I know is because I've died in those exact areas 20 times over
rare ice
ultra nightmare would be keyboard smashingly difficult
old onyx
I got as far as the end of Foundry before I gave up on Nightmare
south junco
I just got back from hell
old onyx
I died six times or so on the one section with the barrels.
And realized this was not for me.
south junco
each time I usually progress further so I always see me making progress with my deaths
rare ice
i thought plutonia was annoying but imps in this game might actually be worse than chaingunners
old onyx
When I hit a rough spot, it's always me being horribly stuck on the exact same spot over and over until I clear it. It's soul-crushing.
I either power through it entirely or I get NOWHERE. It's the kind of thing that's bound to make someone give up.
old onyx
Honestly I would say that 'watch your back' is the most important thing.
Because the thing that causes cheap deaths is the imp chargeup kame hame ha slapping you on the booty.
rare ice
i don't think i've hated imps more than the last couple of days tbh
i know i said revenants and spectres
but if i'm being honest, most of my deaths are imps
old onyx
Yup.
rare ice
i glory kill some fool, and as i'm coming out of it, who grabs my ass and asks me what's good? an imp, for all of my armor and half my health bar
when i fully upgraded the mobile turret, i did not regret wasting a roomful of them with it
old onyx
Another tip for attempting Nightmare, is to know when to, and when not to GK.
For that very reason alone.
rare ice
wat's RgR
elder meadow
rich get richer
harsh oar
noble moat
What does that even mean
I mean the game is probably harder cuz you won’t hit shit. That’s pretty much it
bitter summit
Got some forbidden doom 2016 lore
The HAR is semi-auto but fires like an automatic because that's how fast doomguy can pull the trigger
cinder python
@south junco think about this way
the game became easy because you had to essentially do the levels over and over again
you became better than the level.