Hellknights you gotta weave around them well, also a few ssg shots gets them down fast
#doom-2016
harsh oar
triple blast shotgun for me
native grove
Grenade shot for me, gives the shotgun range
elder meadow
i want to own doom 2016 for steam
native grove
Also the satisfaction of hitting a demon with a shotgun grenade from far away 
harsh oar
anyone using HRFT?
elder meadow
i like the shotgun mod for smaller groups of demons and i like the triple shot burst to take care of bigger demons
I think I'm on the 3rd or 4th mission on campaign where I get introduced to hellknights
native grove
Nice, you're just gettin into the meat of it
harsh oar
native grove
Huh is that a toggable option? I never noticed that
harsh oar
yeah i already played through in 2016 now im playing again
no, @native grove its external
native grove
triple shot feels too slow for me, you need to keep your aim on one demon for too long
I see, no wonder I haven't used it before
elder meadow
playing on pc or console? @harsh oar
elder meadow
dang
harsh oar
which is why i am playing again
elder meadow
in the future im going to own doom 2016 for steam so i can play though it on ultra nightmare
native grove
gonna have to be quick, eternals soon 
elder meadow
i hope so but i dunno if i can scrape up money for it in time
I love the music though especially when u destroy those nests
elder meadow
ok
harsh oar
i just feel like the default spatial mixing is REALLY REALY bad and it makes me sad
every enemy sounds like its on your shoulders
elder meadow
whats your thingy @native grove
native grove
Should be connected to my discord, if not just search for sokysergent147
(Notice it's spelled wrong)
elder meadow
i dunno steam said your account doesnt exist 🤷♂️
native grove
You need to have used at least 5 bucks on steam to be able to add people as friends
Whats your handle?
native grove
think I found ya
elder meadow
yup i got your thing
notice tho cuz i only have like a handful of online games i can play with you
i got csgo and destiny 2 and some other random games
native grove
We can also play doom together now :)
elder meadow
soky you are way too nice ;-;
native grove
<3
elder meadow
now we have another multiplayer game we can play together 
native grove
Hell ye
First though, you gotta play that campaign
The mp doesn't stand up to it at all
native grove
Good luck with all that
elder meadow
well i guess i got something to look forward to when i do finish
elder meadow
yes you are a real slayer soky 
native grove
We all are
harsh oar
the game has been patched 6 times, how is this still a thing
im trying to find a vulkan benchark to see if its a vulkan issue
im sure vulkan would run much better on my system rx570
first result for "vulkan crash" brings up doom
native grove
harsh oar
do you have "vulkan runtime libraries" a heading in installed programs
native grove
Me?
harsh oar
Please note: Once you remove it from your computer, you’ll have a tough time reinstalling it. You may need to buy a new graphics card if you decide that you want to get it again.
I cant imagine this being true, but i do NOT have the runtiume
yes
native grove
I have no idea
harsh oar
go to add remove programs and check lol
harsh oar
winmdows key, "programs"
native grove
Huh I got nothing with vulkan in the name
native grove
Could be, gotta look into it later
Opengl works well enough for me at least ¯_(ツ)_/¯
crystal orbit
just realised I accidentally put my praetor tokens into area scanning instead of environmental resistance (UN)
native grove
Ufff
The amount of times I've just clicked enter thinking it would select the first thing in the menu and then upgraded the wrong thing is ungodly
crystal orbit
well, I only did it with the first one at least
As cool as the room with the first argent cell is mr Hayden takes his sweet time explaining what’s going on
hoary badger
excuse me thats Doctor Hayden to you
he didn't spend all those years working on his phd to be a Mr
signal wagon
I basically exclusively use the combat shotgun, the SSG, and Gauss rifle
Everything I rarely use unless I'm low on ammo
crystal orbit
Sorry Doctor Hayden aka tall cyborg daddy
hoary badger
yes "tall cyborg daddy" is his prefered title
crystal orbit
...that’s the worst way to end your ultra nightmare run. I blew myself up with a barrel because I was one praetor token shirt of immunity to barrels due to accidentally using one on scanning technology
signal wagon
tall cyborg daddy is 😳
crystal orbit
Alright place your bets what level will I die on (I doubt I’ll finish the run)
native grove
Glory kill glitching you through the floor, bet
crystal orbit
I forgot to grab the bobble head on the first level rip
native grove
Welp it can be a 99% run
crystal orbit
Not worried about % just those WUPs early game
native grove
hmhm true
long hazel
the bobblehead?
isn't there two in every map?
crystal orbit
Not in the first one
native grove
Huh never thought about the fact that they're just one there
long hazel
wait a sec
there are two in that level
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Site_03#Collectibles
I found only one
so it turns out you missed two
long hazel
Vulkan works perfectly fine for me
hallow prawn
Vulkan is pretty stable. Probably you have some GPU issues
elder meadow
Woah Doom 2016 has it's own Razer Chroma lighting effects OwO
That's pretty awesome ngl
elder meadow
razer chroma sucks it gave me micro stuttering >:c
lavish junco
I'm playing DOOM 2016 on Xbox One if anyone wants to join AshleyBazSivorn
elder meadow
man after playing Doom 2016 on pc for 2 hours
its just amazing
aiming is so much less awkward for me and im destroying ultra-violence difficulty
crystal orbit
Oh yeah @long hazel my bad I dont think of the first one because I automatically get it jumping over from getting the keycard as opposed to the second one where you have to leave the area of combat through the tunnel
crystal orbit
Yeah I have it this time
Missed one or two secrets though unfortunately. I can never remember where they all are in the foundry
Yeah I missed the rocket launcher and one of the guards
cobalt dune
Is plugging a stream against the rules? 🤔
native grove
If it's doom, you can plug it in #showroom-archive
Same I wish there was like 10
I've already finished nightmare on all 3 too many times to count
shrewd shale
imagine playing a game as a giant spider demon thingy and the one boss you can't ever beat is a tiny guy with a double barrel shotgun
candid eagle
Considering on buying Doom Eternal, but have never played a SINGLE Doom Game.
I'm guessing I should at least get Doom 2016 and play it so I know what I'm getting myself into. I DON'T want to end up like Dean Takahashi...
elder meadow
@candid eagle
I reccomend you rather go through the whole franchise.
candid eagle
I don't have that kind of money.
At best, I might get 2 games this year, if at all.
College bills man
shrewd shale
don't have the money?
the old doom games are pretty cheap
they're like $5 a pop an you can probably get a bundle on steam or something
I've just copied the .wad files from the steam install and used a third party engine
fast sleet
the old ones are like $5 each on steam, doom 2016 is only $20 i think
burnt badger
Well yeah but if Eternal is the aim, 2016 is better prep since it plays more like Eternal than any of the others
fast sleet
true, old ones are still awesome though
burnt badger
Unfortunately they just missed the sales - 2016 was pretty damn cheap over the winter Steam sale
And the other day they did a sale on the Beth store too
burnt badger
Yeah but over the winter sale it was like $10 or something
fast sleet
doom 2016 is $20 on everything except switch i think, don't know why it has to be $60 on switch
burnt badger
Probably even more, after 2016 being pretty successful, there will be a lot of Eternal preorders, more than 2016 most likely.
shrewd shale
apparently all switch ports are $60
also WAT!? Witcher 3 is on switch
how do they get all these games running on a tiny mobile processor
burnt badger
I know it's pretty crazy. Digital Foundry is a good place to watch some videos on those ports, they cover some of the changes to get them performing on there
But yeah kinda shame it's so expensive on Switch still
fast sleet
it's pretty impressive how doom 2016 runs on switch even if the graphics aren't that great
still shouldn't be $60 especially since it runs the worst
dusky raptor
@candid eagle just play 2016 my man, that's where I started. It's been my favorite game ever since I got it back in early 2018. Sure, playing the earlier ones will make you appreciate how far the franchise has come, but yeah playing 2016 will leave you off with exactly what's going on in eternal.
I'm doing an Ultra-Nightmare run right now and I'm having just as much fun as my first play through.
prisma summit
So I've been playing this game for the first time ever
I beat the Cyberdemon with 1 HP LEFT today.
My heart was beating so fast
harsh oar
anyone running on vulkan that had issues initially?
lament anvil
the only issue i have with vulkan is the game closing after i use Alt+tab to check discord while in fullscreen
so that's why I don't use it
lone dune
Never had any issues with Vulkan specifically aside from capture software not working, which is expected
harsh oar
i get heavy artifacts and crash in game . uninstalled and reinstalled doom and now i get hard crash on launch
lone dune
Might be time to switch back to OpenGL to see if it still works
You can edit the DoomConfig.local file in %userprofile%\Saved Games\id Software\DOOM\base with a text editor and change r_renderAPI to 0
nocturne basin
Yeah OpenGL works with my OBS Studio sadly
lone dune
Until OBS makes a Vulkan capture then it's OpenGL only
nocturne basin
yeah
elder meadow
what api is better on doom 2016?
open gl or vulkan?
im running it on an overclocked 1060 6gb
vulkan runs smoothly from what ive seen but open gl has like occasional micro stutter
worldly magnet
the lighting in vulkan looks better to me
lone dune
Vulkan is, in theory and practice, supposed to offer better performance due to it be a low level API that talk to the bare metal so to speak
elder meadow
oh i see
thanks for the info
im not that much of an expert on graphics apis lol 😄
burnt badger
You have to just try it
true spade
Ultra nightmare tips?
burnt badger
I have a 6700k and 1070, and vulkan actually runs very slightly worse for me
10 series is known to not make much use of vulkan, but it depends on the level of the GPU and CPU
@true spade Depends what you need, it's too complex to just write a few tips really
Main thing is to play the game on Nightmare since it's the same difficulty minus permadeath
elder meadow
isnt the game super ultra optimized?
true spade
I already do play on nightmare
burnt badger
Learn all the levels inside-out and it's possible
true spade
First few levels are a pain in the rear though
burnt badger
If you're new to the difficulty, this is a good guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krWTayKr3Rk&list=PLrJ3yEvy4d0dMJqx6x99MspuzV8u-5YzO
dusky raptor
Personally, I find following guides makes the playthrough less rewarding.
When you figure it out by yourself
burnt badger
Well yeah I enjoyed figuring the game out myself
But some people just want to play it and be done, especially to get the achievement for the first level
dusky raptor
Oh no I understand, I'm not giving guides trash.
I'm just saying personally, I find more pleasure in doing it all solo.
burnt badger
@elder meadow An Imp that's permanently staggered? Sounds like a glitch
violet hinge
yeah the perma stagger bug is pretty common, for me at least
burnt badger
And as I say, tips are kind of hard to give because it's a somewhat complex game, so I tend to link the guides if someone needs overall pointers
Are you sure you're not talking about Imps that go AFK on pillars?
violet hinge
it's probably dead, some demons die and then bug out and just stand there. I had a revenant die, but he stood there in an idle animation
burnt badger
That happens all the time, but it's not a stagger stage, since they cannot be staggered on walls or pillars
Well if that's common I don't know the parameters, I've basically never seen that
violet hinge
in my 600 hours, I've encountered endlessly staggered demons hundreds of times. It happens quite often for me
burnt badger
Most recently I saw someone with a Hell Razer walking around that appeared invincible, but it was actually dead and actually had the corpse fade whilst it was still in motion
Guess it must be something system specific, since I don't recall ever having it
I get loads of AFK demons, especially when using holograms
violet hinge
I only touched the MP enough to get the achievements. 95% of my 600 hours are SP
Usually I can still kill endlessly staggered demons, but it requires a lot of extra ammo
its like they gain a shit ton of health when it happens
no, it's a bug. they don't leave stagger state
they just get stuck in stagger state and gain a ton of HP
burnt badger
Staggers are normally more of an HP percentage
Which becomes ridiculous if you equip Intimacy is Best
That's why Imps on pillars / walls seem so tanky, since they have no stagger state, and the stagger health adds on
In fact, if anything it seems like more health is added on. I don't really know the specifics. I suspect someone has gone into the files and can explain it properly
worldly magnet
is it just me or do revenants stay staggered for an enormous amount of time
burnt badger
I've not really noticed. I never timed staggers specifically apart from bosses
worldly magnet
to bosses recover from a stagger besides the hell guards?
burnt badger
Some enemies do have glitches though - Hell Knights in particular can glitch out of staggers almost immediately sometimes
burnt badger
Yes, the Cyberdemon does, but it's around 10 seconds, so you're unlikely to experience it
worldly magnet
or more
final boss dosent recover
i sat there for 5 minutes after i killed it and nothing happened
burnt badger
Sounds like a glitch with the Rev then, 10 seconds is more like Dazed and Confused mastered territory
burnt badger
Yeah I never timed it, but I heard some people deliberately sat there and didn't get the Mastermind to come out of stagger after a long time
loud citrus
guys a little question
how to make the multiplayer smoother?
i wanna 100% the game before eternal comes out but it needs like 15 hours of multiplayer grind
worldly magnet
definitly use the bounty rune
karmic flax
Yeah revenants take forever to get unstaggered for me
loud citrus
i know about the bounty rune but it still terrible
even tho i'm usually ending with like 4th score in the game
worldly magnet
use combat shotgun with ssg and stay in close quarters
flip between those 2 guns
and use the red electric grenade thing to do more damage
and doom 2016 mp has dedicated players that are WAYYY too good at it
it will be a struggle
loud citrus
i'm already echelon 2 but it's still a long way to go
i've seen some guys with two shotguns
worldly magnet
oh yea you got a long way to go
worldly magnet
flipping between guns can cancle the reload on the ssg
also hitting the melee in doom mp can cancle the reload on the ssg too
yea
loud citrus
yea the combo with ssg+melee seems to be quite good
lone dune
Good ol' animation cancelling
loud citrus
i'll try the two shotguns
stone hill
ugh
trying do ultra-nightmare again and i absolutely hate Foundry
the hell knights scare the frick out of me
i used to remember what causes each one to spawn but it's been so long since i did my last playthrough
noble moat
I suggest doing an extra nightmare run b4 UN
stone hill
i've already beaten ultra nightmare before
the first time i beat it i pretty much memorized the entire game
just really dislike this level in particular lol
before eternal comes out i want to try and beat ultra nightmare on all 3 save files
YES i know which one you mean
this whole level is just
i think this is where i died the most by far
actually it's probably level 2
pearl gorge
Doom 2016's assets are still downloading on my Xbox since I uninstalled it because my game pass expired and I got a disc. Not all of the graphics are downloaded so it looks like mush
dusky raptor
Hey guys, if I crash during an Ultra-Nightmare run will my save file corrupt?
I swear I'm going to be so pissed if it does
stone hill
no
pearl gorge
There's no lighting as well
dusky raptor
Thank you @stone hill
stone hill
one time i ran into a glitch on Vega Core, where a demon spawned out of bounds in the cooling room and it was impossible to kill him and progress, and i just shut off my computer and when i booted up the game my save file was still there and it loaded up outside the cooling room
had to do the fight again but at least i didn't have to start over
i'm assuming the same thing will happen if it crashes
native grove
Most of the time its fine, but theres still a chance it will corrupt
elder meadow
Ive had a few glitches while playing Doom 2016 it's alright bro
prop acceleration lol
Almost killed me a few times but it was funny
Never had anything that crazy though
stone hill
apparently it's common
i've had it happen to me multiple times
and when i looked it up it happened to lots of others
something about that room specifically
pearl gorge
I now own the most painful to watch doom gameplay ever made
burnt badger
Yeah those Hell Knights in Foundry are pretty sneaky
Especially the two that spawn once you pick up the blue key
noble moat
Easy. Bum rush left after getting key and pump everything into first hell knight
By the time u see the second u should have an rpg
stone hill
it's not that they're difficult to kill it's that they legitimately scare me
does anyone else prefer remote detonator to lock on burst
noble moat
Lock on makes summoners and most enemies a joke
The remote detonator looks way better in eternal
burnt badger
Well the thing is, if you continue to the blue key room, sometimes the field drone knight comes straight in which is annoying
stone hill
remote detonator rocket launcher is probs my fave weapon in the game
burnt badger
And once I had one ninja on me - I went straight out of the blue room to the field drone, and it wasn't there. It suddenly appeared behind me
Remote det is good, with upgrades it has a nice power boost
stone hill
i havent looked at any eternal footage and i dont plan to but i'm glad to heard the remote det is even better..
the jagged shrapnel ability + the one where rockets can explode twice is so strong
burnt badger
Yeah, I used to think it didn't help when mastered unless you detonated it manually. But turns out it does, ramping up the damage even more for direct hits too.
stone hill
on boss enemies with health bars, you can see how much damage the shrapnel actually does and it's more than you would think, especially after stacking it with a bunch of rockets
stone hill
both
i like binding rocket launcher and gauss cannon to my mouse and quickly swapping between them
i think i learned it from some steam guide
burnt badger
Oh yeah, if you BFG a boss then rotate gauss / supershotgun / rocket it's pretty insane
elder meadow
I finished foundry on ultra Violence a few hours ago it wasn't that bad
burnt badger
Especially as you say with remote det mastered, and super shotgun mastered
@elder meadow Sounds like you're ready for Nightmare then 
elder meadow
I'll admit tho I did get sneak attacked by one of them in the turbine room
burnt badger
Yeah the knights are cheeky in Foundry
elder meadow
Nightmare
stone hill
yes play on nightmare
elder meadow
I dunno alot? Lol
noble moat
Ultra violence and nightmare is a HUGE gap
stone hill
after i beat the game on ultra-nightmare for the first time, it feels like playing on any other mode has no stakes
noble moat
In terms of damage taken
stone hill
is it really
elder meadow
If I had to guess there's probably like uhh 12 hell Knights in foundry
noble moat
Imps can do max 75 damage with a fireball on nightmare
elder meadow
Wtf 75?
noble moat
Ye
stone hill
imps hanging on walls are freaking snipers on ultra nightmare
elder meadow
Damn looks like I'll need to put even more hours into Doom
noble moat
Barons of hell green fireballs can basically max kill you. And most large enemy attacks don’t do less than 100 give or take
elder meadow
So it's basically dodge as much as you can or suffer
noble moat
Possessed soldiers and lost souls can easily chunk out 50 damage per hit and repeat 3-4 times in 2 seconds
Dodge and kill as fast as possible in Nightmare
elder meadow
What about the possessed soldiers and their annoying charge up shots
noble moat
Op af
elder meadow
Man those things kinda hurt and the aoe is more than you'd expect
burnt badger
10 Hell Knights on Foundry
noble moat
Not to mentioned possessed soldier charge shots have splash
The splash alone can rip you 50-60 ish hp
burnt badger
And yeah most medium and up enemies do huge damage
elder meadow
I've managed to find all the secrets and weapons so far
noble moat
It’s honestly safer to yeet a bfg or chainsaw large enemies later on
burnt badger
Pinky charge is something like 125 I think. And yeah Baron fireballs, Caco fireballs, that kinda stuff is 105 I believe
elder meadow
I imagine the hell levels are going to be a little harder to find stuff though
stone hill
don't be intimidated though it's not actually that hard
noble moat
Pinky charge like 125 followed by a like 70damage bite right away
burnt badger
Even Mancubi fireballs are 75 and they come pretty damn fast
stone hill
past level 6 i've very rarely died on ultra nightmare
one time on level 12 due to a stupid mistake
noble moat
It’s all about practice, tbh dodging stuff isn’t too hard once maxed out
burnt badger
Though the single most dangerous attack by a standard enemy is actually the Cacodemon's bite, which does a massive 200
noble moat
That bite is even more op in eternal
burnt badger
Yeah UN gets easier the longer you go, as you get more weapons and upgrades
stone hill
the infinite ammo ability with the gauss cannon is insane
noble moat
Infinite micro missiles is fun ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
burnt badger
You can pretty much cheese the final third of the game if you know all the upgrades
stone hill
cacos are high priority enemies on nightmare
noble moat
Everything is in eternal
stone hill
i'm excited for eternal ultra nightmare
noble moat
Hell knights in eternal makes 2016 hell knights look like a joke
burnt badger
And yes you shouldn't let a Caco get that close, but if you don't remember where they are, you can get trashed quick. I've seen it happen on UN before 
elder meadow
Omg I'm dumb
stone hill
is nightmare even unlocked to begin with
elder meadow
I just barely started argen energy tower and I was bunny hopping
And I jumped straight off the map
noble moat
Idk of nightmare is unlocked or not, I hope it is, I don’t wanna start eternal on UV;-;
burnt badger
Nightmare should be, it is in 2016, even though it looks like it isn't because it's red
noble moat
Criminal that had happened to me more often than I’d like to admit,
“Me jumping like an idiot. Falls off map”
stone hill
oh for some reason i thought you had to unlock it
elder meadow
stone hill
yeah i'll probably start on nightmare too
burnt badger
Well apparently one of the people that got to play said that UN was unlocked, and they actually played on it
stone hill
everything else just feels way too easy
burnt badger
But that's not to say it will be in the final game
noble moat
Well they played the Un Extra lives mode.
burnt badger
I honestly can't see why someone would want to start with UN, but some people are mad I guess
noble moat
Apparently there are 2 versions of UN ,
The one with the floating lives, and one without any lives
Idk how credible that is but sounds interesting
burnt badger
Indeed
scarlet gorgeBOT
Indeed!
burnt badger
Well there was an interview that explain the extra lives thing, but the word on UN is only from someone that tried it briefly
burnt badger
I'm kinda tempted to start Eternal on NM though. Now that it seems you can switch up and down from NM (unlike in 2016), I could just bail out of it's too bad
noble moat
I want to start on Nightmare, cuz that’s what I enjoy most, but also like everyone is saying eternal is much much faster and harder than 2016
Which sounds epic af
burnt badger
Yeah. I watched a bit of NM footage with KB/M and it honestly looked mad, probably more than I want to handle on a first playthrough
noble moat
Boutta do this on switch no gyro I Can’t wait
burnt badger
But I might just try it, and if I'm dying several times in the same area early game, then I can switch down to UV
stone hill
lol i almost died because i used a health station while in a fight
i thought you would be invincible during it like a glory kill
burnt badger
yeah in my experience, never pick up items if you're still in a fight
noble moat
Glory killings during fights are dangerous too. Imps like to launch fireballs as soon as animation is over
burnt badger
I think it depends on the pick-up as to whether you get protection or not
noble moat
Man I can’t wait for DASH
stone hill
yeah i know a lot of people swear to never glory kill on ultra nightmare
burnt badger
It depends on the situation generally
Sometimes it can actually help, especially if you see an imp already charging a fireball and you've got a GK right next to you
noble moat
Knuckles eternal
stone hill
yeah i probably glory kill more than i should but i don't get in trouble for it very often
burnt badger
Early game it can also be easier to GK rather than use ammo too
It's surprising how much I use GK still actually, since I did a UN run without GK apart from bosses (I disabled my melee to be sure) and it's somewhat frustrating in the early game
Oh and of course than meant no chainsaw or beserk either
stone hill
i need chainsaw for my rocket supply in the early game
burnt badger
Yeah if you like to use rockets in Foundry it's not so fun without the chainsaw
Though you can fill with the Argent Cell
burnt badger
Interesting
I much prefer to balance
Generally I get at least one armour before Kadingir, since Kadingir has a ton of armour pick-ups but not that much health
So you can kind of waster HP there if you get lower on health but can only pick up a bit of armour. Though it's not like you'll probably be losing that much health come Kadingir anyway for it to matter
stone hill
one time on Foundry, I glory killed on the gore nest above the lava and it phased me through the railing and i fell into the lava
it was like what speedrunners do to get out of bounds
burnt badger
I also quite like to get two ammo upgrades come Kadingir as well, mostly for five fuel for Barons and Mancubi, but also some extra juice for Siege Mode
Yeah that bottom gore nest is one area I try to avoid GKs as much as possible, since it's easy to glitch.
Oh and I almost always take armour from the cell in Argent Facility, since that level has next to nothing
It only has what 3 +15 armour suits and a bunch of shards, which on NM / UN really isn't much
So it's quite nice if you lose all your armour to just bump up an instant +75 from the cell
stone hill
idk i've only ever done all health, then all ammo, then armor
burnt badger
There are plenty of health stations to refill health
stone hill
i memorized the mega health locations
is that what those things are called
mega healths
burnt badger
Well if it works for you it doesn't matter, but if you're having difficulties then I would recommend that strategy of throwing in an armour upgrade at argent facility, and an ammo upgrade or two before Kadingir as well
Yeah they're megahealth in this game
And yes if you know where they all are, you can get a real handy boost
If you're doing 100% UN, however, leaving armour cell until the end is pretty useful, since I believe they contribute to upgrading Rich Get Rich, and especially Armored Offensive
stone hill
i want to see someone who's ultra nightmare strategy involves upgrading area scanning technology first
burnt badger
@stone hill I don't think I've ever seen someone do that
But considering some people run UN without an upgrades at all, it shouldn't be too much of a problem
elder meadow
dang
true spade
Gamers quick should I go for health or armor for my un run
long hazel
I assume you mean which one you should go for first
true spade
Yeah
karmic flax
If you go for health you get a free chainsaw kill on the first hellknight in the next level when you can go for ammo
stable hound
^^^^
elder meadow
Dang I just discovered a new glory kill that I've never seen in Doom 2016 before
Nice
runic sigil
@elder meadow, which one?
quaint grail
Just played through doom 2016 twice cuz my file got corrupted at titans realm
elder meadow
If you stagger an imp and aim above it's head from behind then you'll break it's neck
runic sigil
Oh, that one
quaint grail
I love that glory kill
elder meadow
First time I've seen it lol
Im so used to seeing the one where you break the imps jaw off
quaint grail
I've been trying to pull it off for a while when I finally did a few days ago
i know right!
elder meadow
Man I feel like I'm constantly discovering new things in this game and it's freaking 4 years old
runic sigil
Funny, I get the one where you break the imp's neck more than you break it's jaw...
elder meadow
Huh weird
I'm not entirely sure then
But when I aim at it's back or something the game will do the one where you break the imps jaw but when I aimed above it's head it did the neck snap
Not entirely sure if that's correct but I think that's what I did
When u get the berserk mode and go up to an imp u will rip its head apart
runic sigil
Love that one
elder meadow
I think on Twitter I saw a glory kill from the official Doom page for eternal
It's where you like use your blade to cut the prowler open then the Slayer sticks his fingers in there but then the gif loops there 😭
native grove
That one is painful to watch 
elder meadow
Yes it is 
I don't feel anything except the need to rip & tear to Mick gordans tracks
deft swift
Yeah, Mick Gordon's music tracks for the game are awesome
hushed vault
I still prefer Aubrey Hodges
true spade
Blasphemy
hushed vault
I just prefer pants-shitting ambience over electronic metal, that’s all
tribal rivet
A list of every Megahealth and BFG cell ingame, as well as what you can and can't get in 0%
haughty bough
Gauss Cannon Siege Mode is your new best friend
elder meadow
i dont have that mod yet
cuz i chose the mobile turret for the chaingun
sad
Lmao that's useless where you are now
haughty bough
You should definitely get it, but mobile turret is another powerful mod
haughty bough
BFG + mobile turret + siege cannon
Shreds bosses
elder meadow
all i did was just run around and try to dodge his fireballs and just throw everything at him
at least hologram is on my side
haughty bough
Hologram vs siphon grenade
elder meadow
If you get Equipment Power upgdraded plus Rich Get Richer & fully upgraded Gauss Cannon Siege...
burnt badger
Yeah the holograms are pretty sweet, when fully stacked and with equipment power you can pretty much drop one as the previous one was ending. Though that depends somewhat on what was attacking it, since big enemies wear the holograms down quicker
Still you can have a situation where you're only getting attacked by a few demons at once, which is more manageable
fresh dome
finally got to the argent tower on UN
burnt badger
Nice!
Watch out for those summoners, and the cubi
Oh and the bridge, but that goes without saying
Indeed
scarlet gorgeBOT
Indeed!
elder meadow
If you see a summoner and there's fuel around
Chainsaw 'em
If there ain't
Siege 'em
Really ez to do with Seek & Destroy
buoyant marlin
Any tips for Arcade mode?
worldly magnet
to get high score?
ether stun bomb + headshots with the HAR or try and go for stun + headshot + triple shot, to get the max ammount of trophies
stun and then aim for the head with the shotgun and fire off a triple shot
its very hard to hit consistently tho
crystal orbit
What he said. It’s easy enough to get Slayer rating on every level UN playing normally though
I recommend taking out the relics and collecting them as soon as you see them otherwise they’re likely to get activated by imps or something else hitting them while you’re not looking and then you end up with the lowest bonus
exotic cave
Just an FYI, the latest Nvidia driver that came out just now has fixes for Doom, with certain GPUs - [Doom (2016)]: The game crashes when launched on GeForce 600/700 series (Kepler) GPUs [2791124]
cobalt dune
Looking to play some snap maps on PS4! Hit me up if you're ever down to do so.
tender shadow
Guys
I'll stream doom 2016 right now
I think so
Does anyone want to watch?
In voice chat
Although... Nevermind
I want to sleep
Goodnight everyone
karmic flax
Goodnight bro : (
dusky raptor
Which level from Doom 2016 do you think is the hardest to run on UN?
worldly magnet
one of the last 2 levels
dusky raptor
I just finished Foundry with ease and I'm pretty sure once I get all the upgrade I'ma be streamlining
Oh really?
Even with siege mode and infinite ammo?
worldly magnet
if you dont have your runes, it could get annoying
better to go with ammo boost and bfg
especially in the last vega arena
dusky raptor
Trueee
One last thing too, what do you think the best upgrades on argent cells are
I've been rocking HP & Armor
Seems to have worked the best
dusky raptor
Sweet ty
zenith jasper
Ammo then HP then Armor
noble moat
Rich get richer unlimited siege works
If you wanna cheese it
Mid air movement rune is a personal love of mine
Mid air movement rune lets you dodge so much shit it’s amazing
dapper trail
I like blood fueled myself combined with Mid air movement.
noble moat
Plus gauss as a movement booster is fun
Maxed out super shotgun is op VS liek everything
Worse case scenario just chainsaw a baron or something
I just want to get to the halfway point in UN so i can beat it ;-;
tribal rivet
Later levels are easier than early with upgrades
In flight mobility is beast. Just unfortunate it takes up a rune slot
Also my friend wants doom 2016 for the switch, anyone know any used copies out there? It’s still $60 new
noble moat
Tell him if he honestly wants doom on switch just wait for eternal
Same price for way more content
Or wait for eshop sales. Whenever doom goes on sale it drops to $30 eshop
Or wait for eternal to drop anyway, doom 2016 will then go on sale
tribal rivet
he hasn’t played 2016 but I told him he could still be fine
vast fable
I wonder why they never added 6.66 stuff to snapmap
feral fulcrum
so after lil break I get back to the work. Almost flawless mission, i couldn't manage to get those glory kills to work most of the time. http://prntscr.com/qx4xed
feral fulcrum
another almsot flawless http://prntscr.com/qx5get
missed a secret lvl lever, just checked it on youtube where it is
crystal orbit
Those are Kadingir and Destroyed Argent yeah?
feral fulcrum
yes
fallow salmon
Yoyo what's up
I'm playing through 2016 again on my switch to hype me up for eternal
After that I'm gonna go play d3bfg
proven hound
noble moat
Manucbouis, just shoot as much as you can
elder meadow
How is everyone?
noble moat
And stay far away,
noble moat
Siege mode and rocket lock on
elder meadow
Thx
elder meadow
That's crazy
Good, hey I am making a character for a couple of short stories in the Doom Universe. I have her use like a sword made of hell energy. Should the sword be like a conduit hence protecting her from the hell energy?
Yes or u should make a gun with hell energy
How will that work?
Will it be glowly?
Or fleshy
elder meadow
U could make the gun out of pinky skin that shoots hell bullets
Should she or he be partially corrupted? Like horns, or even wings?
elder meadow
Man Doom 2016 is such an incredibly optimized game it's crazy
I just ran it on my cousins old PC that he left behind and it ran pretty much 30-60 fps
AMD FX 6300 and a GTX 660
vast fable
Ok
elder meadow
There were some bad stutters but overall a very playable experience
vast fable
First of all what the F*ck did Discord just do
Second of all i just tried Ultra-Nightmare
Straight off of Hurt Me Plenty and whew mate
I see why people like this game on higher difficulties
But who's bright idea was it to put the trophy on Ultra-Nightmare instead of just Nightmare
noble moat
Why would u go from hurt me plenty to hella hard permadeath mode?
vast fable
Because I figured I might as well go for the "Complete UAC on Ultra-Nightmare difficulty" and go for platinum
I thought the first level couldn't be too hard
violet hinge
The UN achievement isn't really bad at all, it's only one level, and an extremely short level at that
they should have made an achievement for beating UN 
violet hinge
honestly, it doesn't seem that bad in Eternal but I guess we'll see
noble moat
Eternal is 10 times faster and harder than 2016
elder meadow
^
noble moat
But harder is a relative term tho
violet hinge
Honestly I disagree with them saying it's going to be significantly harder. They made a lot of changes that makes Nightmare easier.
noble moat
It is harder, but how much harder is all dependent on skill
It surely is a much much faster game tho, that is undeniable
elder meadow
There's so many different demons compared to 2016 and there's a larger emphasis on mobility this time
violet hinge
For one, you can't die to imps/soldiers/zombies when you're low on health as long as you're moving. Imp shots will only do 2/3/4/5 damage if you're low
vast fable
Being able to aim helps in games like these, which isn't my strong suit
violet hinge
No more one shot kills from imps
And another, you gain the same amount of health from pickups as the other difficulties
noble moat
I play doom on a switch with no gyro, I don’t see how aiming can be an issue.
noble moat
Sensitivity tweaking should always be done level 1
noble moat
Once you find your sensitivity the rest is practice
vast fable
Aiming is relative, considering I only started playing FPS games like late 2018
elder meadow
Oh
fair sinew
optimized my ass, i meet the minimum requirements but I cant run the game stable without making the game ugly
elder meadow
I just started playing Doom 2016 on PC yesterday
violet hinge
lol, if you meet minimum requirements, that means minimum
don't expect to have a good looking game if you meet the minimum requirements.
noble moat
Ugly is a relative term
elder meadow
Bro Doom is pretty god damn well optimized compared to most other games
violet hinge
minimum just means it'll run, but with very low settings/lowered resolution etc.
it is extremely well optimized
elder meadow
^
noble moat
That’s why it’s called “minimum” requirements
fair sinew
even on the lowest settings I get stutter and bad texture streaming
elder meadow
Do you use Razer products with rgb?
vast fable
I mean some moron in my dms earlier was trying to tell me I could freaking run Destiny 2 on my 2011 HP WORK COMPUTER so it can't be that bad
violet hinge
that's because you meet the minimum requirements. Lower the resolution too.
fair sinew
texture quality in general is pretty low in this game, it relies on a lot of post processing for detail
elder meadow
If you do then turn of Razer Chroma for the game because Razer fucks everything up
vast fable
Honestly texture pop-in happens on the console versions too
elder meadow
^
violet hinge
the Chroma stuttering happens to people who don't even use Razer products too
I don't use Razer products, and when they put out that update, the stuttering hit me too
elder meadow
I've played Doom 2016 on PS4 and now on PC
elder meadow
Honestly Razer is pretty shit I'm only putting up with them because they had a Christmas bundle that met my budget needs
vast fable
For snapmap and I presume multiplayer
fair sinew
PS4 is just a shit console overall
vast fable
And Xbox isn't?
fair sinew
I sold mine a while back because it did nothing but load, update, and install shit
for like 12 hours straight sometimes
violet hinge
the PS4 sounds like it runs the game better than your pc so
elder meadow
What you mean PS4 is pretty good
fair sinew
loading times on my pc for Doom are actually really fast
elder meadow
Bruh that's probably just network issues on your end because my PS4 has never taken that long just for updates
fair sinew
and even on highest settings I dont get below 45 fps
it just doesnt maintain stable framerate
which is annoying
vast fable
SamVision my download speed is literally somewhere around the 300 - 500 KBPS range so you don't know what bad download speeds are compared to me lmao
elder meadow
My PC has everything maxed and I get 140fps average
violet hinge
The game has really good optimization, my game is basically always at 200fps on max
elder meadow
Depending on the complexity of the level design it may drop to like 100 fps but overall it's perfectly fine and load times are like 4 seconds tops
That's fairly slow download speeds :( @vast fable
vast fable
Fairly Slow
Just be honest and say i'd get better download speeds if I literally lived in an active warzone, and trust me, there's nothing that I can do about it is the worst part
fresh hearth
Anybody know how that pinky demon with the yellow key card died in the destroyed argent facility? It’s been bugging me how he’s perfectly fine but he’s dead
crystal orbit
If you think Doom 2016 is poorly optimised you must not have played any ubisoft titles
fresh hearth
Oh we talking optimism? Playing rn haven’t dropped from 200 on Vulkan
crystal orbit
Probably choked on the human body while trying to swallow it whole @fresh hearth lol
fair sinew
hey so does anyone else have the issue I have?
the game locks up at the main menu if I install the new nvidia driver
I have to revert to the October 1, 2019 driver for it to work
elder meadow
Bruh
Doom 2016 one of the most optimized games of last decade change my mind
And this March Id software bout to do it again this decade bet
vast fable
Just finished this game and had precisely 666 trophys when I was done
This is the way
But serious this is kinda freaking me out lol
ocean spruce
@vast fable my is 800kb too
elder meadow
Eternal better be EVEN MORE optimized than 2016 because of its far larger monster count
Compare that first arena in Eternal to the imp arena in 2016
cursive furnace
@vast fable nice
clever dew
Mod support would be nice, I just hope real stuff comes, not visual edit crud or bad jokes
vast fable
I mean considering something about idTech 7 having "one million less lines of code"
I hope that either reduces loading times or gives better preformance
native grove
It was one million actually
It'll probably have really good loading times, as long as you got a good enough pc
vast fable
that makes more sense, 1,000 less isn't a lot
elder meadow
Is it possible to resize the crosshair? It becomes extra small when you have a high FOV
hallow prawn
Stick chewed gum at your monitor as kids did it in 90-x in games with disabled crosshair
elder meadow
pseudo spindle
the hell is this?
hallow prawn
@pseudo spindle that's graham. And you are in wrong chat
pseudo spindle
Your mom
shadow hinge
@pseudo spindle G'day
elder meadow
afraid of a fuckin rainbow?
feral fulcrum
again almost 100%, I missed the lever and 3rd secret in the open area
I thought 2 was enough lol
long hazel
the levers man
I can never see them
they blend in too much with everything else (which I guess is intentional)
I keep having to look up where the lever is
feral fulcrum
I think I only found 2 so far
without checking guides
it was early levels like 2nd,3rd or 3rd, 4th
fresh hearth
Imagine doing one of the best plays you’ve ever done in doom. You demolish all the demons in the room before the cyber demon with style. And you get stuck inside one of those crates
welp nvm, Thank goodness I got a checkpoint. time for ol cybie to die
update. he died
4 minates aint bad.
sinful flax
Does Doom 2016 have keyboard and mouse support for PS4?
vast fable
Does anybody still play this games's multiplayer?
I tried another match on the beginner's lobby (I only have like 1 or 2 matches left before i'm booted out) and can't find anybody
open shell
if you join the one with like 10 modes (team play i think?) you can get a game much easier
i would reccomend getting the multiplayer achievements before 3/20 as it will be much harder to get them after that day
vast fable
I doubt everyone will leave though for battlemode b/c doom 2016's will be the last traditional multiplayer
also I had no idea snapmap co-op and matches were a thing
makes my life like 20% more complete
noble moat
Hello Argent Energy Tower UN, we meet again
fresh hearth
Is it just me, or do demons speed up the faster you move/play?
They seem to catch up with me even if I play with Blood Fueled and In-flight mobility enabled. With those two I can move way faster in air and around than average yet the demons seem to keep up. I think it’s awesome but idk if it’s just more intended AI mechanic
noble moat
I think it’s just your perception of them
Since you are going faster you think they are too
noble moat
Maybe
Holy shit forgot there was a revenant right at the start of argent energy tower
fresh hearth
Now that I think about it... it’s probably just me. Hugo said that when they added meathook, dashing, and monkey bars against the demons tuned to the speed of 2016 nobody could touch you. If they did speed up they wouldn’t need to upgrade the demons for eternal
noble moat
Fucking hell. I know it’s been awhile since I’ve chainsawed one
But I see Summoners require more than 3 fuel
Dammit. There goes my run
Had no ammo, so was gunna chainsaw it for the easy removal. And chainsaw didn’t go through like =b
Pumps shotgun try again
fresh hearth
Completely demolished vega core’s last room
Why doesn’t vega’s shut down scene run properly?
There’s no animations on the screen when I shut him down
This always happens and I’ve never seen Vega’s screen work properly on PC
Also this happens with Olivia in the foundry
harsh oar
Can saves be transfered
I think I have to do a reinstall of Windows and at this point the only thing I care about is my doom save
violet hinge
if you're on steam, it should be cloud saved @harsh oar check the steam save settings
fringe horizon
Should be under your user profile https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/357286663685577431/
But if installed by steam you will need to find the Steam folder in your profile first iirc
The problem I am having is my saves are being corrupted😩
I am using Geforce as my laptop is old and God mode cause I am crap
native grove
Your doom saves are saved on the cloud so you should be fine
When you reset your windows just remember if steam prompts you to upload local files or download cloud, download from cloud
when you start trying to upload files that don't exist to a cloud, thats when you start getting corruptions
london, you mean geforce now?
I've had same issue before. Clicked upload local instead of download from cloud and that messes up my saves
fringe horizon
@native grove yes
native grove
Otherwise it works just fine
fringe horizon
Hmm ok so I did an experiment and had one save as normal just to after the hanger
And one with GOD mode on at the same time
native grove
We're talking about doom 2016 here right?
native grove
Right
Never used god mode so I don't know how that impacts it
Wdym by god mode was corrupted?
fringe horizon
So you try to load the save and it says the file is corrupted
fringe horizon
Fair enough, it's just going to be slooow progress for me!
native grove
What difficulty are you playing on?
fringe horizon
Too young to die 😂
native grove
I see I see
Well always feels better to manage to do it without cheats
It's all in the practice man :)
Keep playin
fringe horizon
Ok thanks, I was hoping to get through before Doom Eternal came out but it will be all the better to play that once I have aced 2016!
elder meadow
fading whale
Doom eternal hype!!!
hallow prawn
#doom-eternal
Just in any case
desert lion
16 times the detail
heady eagle
harsh oar
@desert lion Im just hoping for 1080p 60 lol. If I get that I might talk myself out of getting a new gpu
hexed summit
harsh oar
@elder meadow 570 4gb. Should be ok. If not ultra, high most likely
I mean, unless there is a massive uptick in the engine.
I can't get vulkan to work at all
On doom. Works in cemu just fine
Yup
Tried 19.x and 20.x drivers
But either way, legit windows shouldn't matter.
I am surprised I didn't lose my licence though. Just replaced CPU/mobo
inland dune
What if DOOM and StarWars combined that would be crazy
iron frigate
That would be awesome
inland dune
Doom guy with a light saber
feral knot
please help what do I do in the BFG lab
feral knot
No i mean like in the lab with the lazers
elder meadow
Shoot the red canisters
dense sluice
Shoot at the anchors
dense sluice
Of the moving platform where the BFG is on
feral knot
Thank you :>
dense sluice
Good luck
feral knot
I now have the bfg
ornate basin
burnt badger
You got the BFG-9000! Oh, yes.
vast fable
Man, the multiplayer is boring and casual
runic sigil
At least it doesn't take away from the main attraction, the single player, to be honest I didnt know there was a multiplayer until I got the game
open shell
i remember people saying 2016 was gonna be a huge flop after the first taste of the game was the multiplayer beta, i think it was more unbalanced at the time?
fair sinew
well the beta was shit because the MP was fundamentally flawed
runic sigil
It's possible, the game was still in beta after all...
burnt badger
That and hardly anyone had played the SP before release
fair sinew
Bethesda had no faith in the game
the bigwigs were convinced that that style of FPS had no future because they are out of touch
eternal anvil
yeah there was almost no single player gameplay released
worldly magnet
wrong, doom 2016 had troubled development, bethesda had no influence on it at all
burnt badger
The initial gameplay was presented in a slow manner. And then yeah we only got properly representative gameplay in the last few weeks before release I think
worldly magnet
in 2013 Zenimax asked the ID team to do a refresh and possibly start from scratch
open shell
thank you zenimax
worldly magnet
without zenimax intervention we would have call of doomie
open shell
basically what people thought doom 2016 was gonna be after the mp beta
eternal anvil
i thought id decided on their own to restart
fair sinew
and yet they didnt lift review embargo until the release date
worldly magnet
zenimax had input too since development ran for maaany years
fair sinew
proof plz
worldly magnet
"Meanwhile, the Rage team had already started planning out Rage 2, a source said. But when the first game was released to tepid critical and commercial response, executives at ZeniMax decided to start getting more involved with Id’s development process. Over the next couple of months, ZeniMax met with Id’s leadership, cancelled Rage 2, and downsized plans for Rage’s DLC, the source said.
The new plan, as of January 2012: refocus the studio, postpone or cancel all other projects, and get everyone on the fourth Doom game."
harsh oar
@elder meadow either your license was not consumer, you didn't change out CPU and mobo, or you are lying or mistaken. That or something went wrong
worldly magnet
harsh oar
I know that from MY LICENCE
worldly magnet
@fair sinew proof
“Rage came out, and it wasn't the splash success that everyone hoped it would be,” one source said. “Eventually what kind of came down was, ZeniMax said, ‘Okay, look, we gave you guys a bunch of chances and you guys are having a lot of trouble managing multiple projects, so you guys are gonna have one project: Just do Doom 4.’”
harsh oar
fair sinew
You said that zenimax told id to refresh the development
it seems zenimax just told them to drop rage and work on Doom 4
and it was id themselves that restarted the development
worldly magnet
sorry, i meant development process
tribal rivet
I like seeing old footage of how they had the maps. Kadingir going from the start into the haste arena, having cyber and other enemies. Foundry with caco and rev. Titan’s realm pic with a bunch of enemies
noble moat
@tribal rivet to answer your question I’m an Ultra Nightmare switcher
noble moat
Not yet. I made the mistake of forgetting how much chainsaw fuel kills a summoner
tribal rivet
oh no! What map?
noble moat
the one where you get the rocket boots
noble moat
The level after destroying the filters
Yeah early game is hard, no mods, weapons, upgrades, runs, health, etc
Also no gyro. Hate gyro
Argent Energy Tower is how far I made it before dying,
My furthest run was The level first hell level. Stuck on an invisible rock and sent back to mars
tribal rivet
Nooooo ouch :/ got any gameplay footage?
I don’t see Switch ultra nightmare on YouTube / twitch
lofty pollen
Does anyone have any info on who actually designed the Praetor suit (like which artist or dev) and/or info on the process behind it? Is there a noclip or anything like that?
hallow prawn
Wait for doom eternal artbook
lofty pollen
I know the 2016 Art Book is going for like $150+ used 
hallow prawn
Wow, here it costs 15$
30$ max
Yup, Russian version in book store is ~1700 rub
Art of Doom.
Check your book stores, not Amazon, that might help. If there are still copies left
But you won't have that problem with Eternal art book, I think it will be available separately from CE and will cost around 30$
rare elk
It doesnt come with CE to begin with @hallow prawn
rare elk
We chillin
hallow prawn
Also, Art of Doom: Eternal costs 39.9$ on booksamillion
rare elk
Sweet
hallow prawn
Preorder, ofc
Dark horse did pretty well on Doom 2016
@lofty pollen also if you don't need hardcover of 2016, digital is still available for 10$ on dark horse web site
lofty pollen
Really? Every book store i see has it at $150+
Yeah i can get it digital, just not the same lol
hallow prawn
Depends on what you need. Ofc I'd buy hc too, but it seems they are not manufactured anymore, hence the price.
Don't be late to get Eternal's one while it is 40$
lofty pollen
I just ordered it for $35 on amazon.
My doom shrine is becoming super legit now
elder meadow
Bruh
carmine forge
wait since when was DOOM 2016 only 24 dollars???
carmine forge
oh, I could've sworn it was more at launch
worldly magnet
Well at launch yes
carmine forge
Hey speaking of which, I was thinking of picking up one of the first three doom games when I get my pay check, any recommendation you might have for which one I should grab?
solemn shuttle
@elder meadow #community-support
burnt badger
@carmine forge What do you have so far? Only 2016?
carmine forge
Yeah, just 2016 At the moment.
pseudo crane
@lofty pollen Late reply but the DOOM 2016 design is credited to Hugo Martin in that game's art book, but the book is also very scarce on artwork for the Slayer. It's hard to say how many revisions it went through and how many artists contributed to it before they settled on that design.
I seem to recall Hugo commenting about it before, but don't remember the source unfortunately.
burnt badger
Well if you get Ultimate DOOM / DOOM II you can either get them on Steam and then use a source port to play (well you can use DOSBox or something, but yeah...), or you can get the 25th anniversary versions on the Beth Launcher which are more limited since they run through their own port. But if you link those with your Slayers Club account you redeem classic skins for Eternal
pseudo crane
I do, got it as a Christmas gift 🙂
carmine forge
Ah, how would I link them though?
burnt badger
There's a link inside the games if you get them through the Beth Launcher. I didn't even have to sign in on mine since my Beth account is the same as my Slayers Club account... not sure if that's usually the case
carmine forge
Ah, can they still be linked from steam?
burnt badger
No, only the Beth versions unfortunately
carmine forge
Damn
burnt badger
Well I just installed the "original" Ultimate DOOM version on the Beth launcher and it does actually have the WAD
So seems like if you buy the Beth ones you get the best of both worlds
lofty pollen
Nice, does it give a lot of behind the scenes info? Lots of good art? I just ordered the Eternal one
burnt badger
Since it gave me the updated ones, and the "original" ones
@lofty pollen It has some text info, but it's a bit lacking in that regard unfortunately
pseudo crane
^ Also some characters (Slayer, Imp) are hugely lacking in art. But besides that I'd say it's worth it.
burnt badger
And certain designs (as @pseudo crane mentioned with the suit) have basically one design shown
It has a lot of designs for some things though, and it's a really nice, big quality book
lofty pollen
Ahhh i want it
May have to settle for the digital version. Its wild how different the Eternal suit looks.
It doesnt have that yellow ribbed mesh and the boots are completely different
digital stump
Anyone own’s doom 2016 ?
elder meadow
Anyone play multiplayer on switch?
shrewd ridge
Have tried to once or twice but the multiplayer isn’t exactly populated
Which is a shame cause it’s kinda neat
past pond
Even though the game doesn't run too well on my computer, I'm still having a fun time with the game.
scenic goblet
I have doom 2016, but on xbox one. I wouldn’t mind trying the multiplayer tho 
daring spade
I have the Switch version, considering getting it on Steam
serene jasper
i have it on steam. my pc can't run it so i bought it for my switch
stark lintel
I’m very curious to see how eternal runs/looks on the og Xbox one
daring spade
I haven't renewed ns online yet
stark lintel
Recent games haven’t looked so hot on it
daring spade
Remember how they had to downgrade the graphics of 2016 so the switch's mobile chipset could run it
stark lintel
Lol yeah
daring spade
I can't imagine what they're gonna have to do to Eternal
stark lintel
It’s gonna be interesting to say the least
wicked cairn
stark lintel
Facts I heard they’re helping with optimization on the other console versions but I’m not sure if that’s true
languid tide
Doom 2016 multiplayer might not be super populated but there's nearly always enough players for a game, I play quite a lot.
stark lintel
Does anyone know?
lofty pollen
Id play 2016 MP a lot more but my controller has a dead zone when i try to move forward its awful
pine flicker
elder meadow
I don’t think the Switch version of Doom 2016 was that big of a downgrade, coming from someone who played both Switch and PC version in ultra settings. But if you look at Wolfenstein Youngblood on the Switch that is a downgrade, but I’m gridding that’s because there were people doing the Doom Eternal port at the same time.
noble moat
Wolfenstein Youngblood is definitely blurry and muddy on switch for sure
But 2016, comparing it to other switch games, is actually a pretty nice looking game
elder meadow
It is, the only major difference is graphics is that reflections are not on in handheld mode, but they are on in docked.
red onyx
I view the Switch for what it is
a $300 mobile piece of hardware
the only thing close to it is like the $800 GPD WIn 2 in terms of power and spec and size
so I don't mind the downgrades at all
especially since it's just the game running at PC low settings, really
noble moat
Can’t wait for eternal on the switch, thats going to be epic
red onyx
I put like 50 hours into Youngblood on Switch
elder meadow
Probably 30 hours for me
red onyx
I'm waiting for that last patch to come over
since I practically 100%'d the game on my first save file
I uh
I think the game is a lot better than people online say it is
noble moat
As a shooter, it’s definitely a fun game. Anyone who says otherwise is hating to hate. The movement and shooting mechanics are solid. And you get hella weapons. The thing people are mad about is that this wasnt Wolf 3. Because Youngblood mentions a key component of the story skipped that woulda been in Wolf 3
solemn peak
There was a big crowd of people who didn't like it because "It's too hard, there's no cover"
red onyx
honestly YB is like 300% better than Wolf2
solemn peak
When that's the whole point of the game's mechanics
noble moat
I also got deluxe edition for $14 so thx to the haters for making the game go on hella sale
languid tide
who complained WYB is too hard? most common complaint I saw was the cringey dialogue.
noble moat
Honestly, they barely even talk
solemn peak
You gotta move, and some reviewers just didn't want to use the playstyle required
noble moat
And half the time you wont even hear them over the explosions adn gunfire
red onyx
It's really funny people say the game is too hard and grindy when
A. There's a difficulty setting
B. You become SOOOOO overpowered like 5 hours in
solemn peak
But you gotta figure out the playstyle
I know I had to, I approach most shooters with stealth 
But once I got the movement down 1-2 levels in, boi
Game comes alive
long garden
Quake 2 > Doom 4
solemn peak
I love me some Quake II, but you've created an unsafe demonic presence
long garden
Doom guy > Doomslayer
elder meadow
Meh
I did not like Quake 2 much
solemn peak
I still have my N64 copy
static wave
I wish the developers had a chat session with players. I have a lot to say about the new Doom games.
Mostly good, don't worry
elder meadow
I sure would love to talk to Hugo 
static wave
Yeah, me too. He's such a cool guy
static wave
Hugo and Marty managed to replace Romero and Carmack. Never thought that was possible
Not to downplay the other awesome people at id! I know they have tons of really talented people.
elder meadow
Never forget the id mom
NEVER.
Or the ghost of young Carmack will come hunt you down
tribal rivet
She’s still there I believe