I wonder why they removed this in the BFG Edition
#doom-3
slim willow
half plank
No clue, I liked this song.
covert anchor
I thought it was pretty good, do they even have pause menus music in bfg edition.
half plank
no
honest lynx
Just play both they have their advantages and disadvantages
half plank
They are both good
charred fox
I think about this music when I sleep
brazen pawn
bfg should've used high poly models
covert anchor
Or should have just been a good remaster instead of the same game with some differences
brazen pawn
just lightning differences, i see
covert anchor
yeah but if you want to play the lost content theres a mod that allows you to play the lost mission
in regular doom 3
half plank
Yeah, thats how I played lost mission for the first time
honest lynx
Lost missions is fantastic
versed estuary
100%
Best combat best hell
Less atmosphere tho
Roe does the atmosphere much better
honest lynx
Only wish it was longer
half plank
73k in turkey puncher so far
honest lynx
Go for 200 000
half plank
82k now
faint snow
The 2nd half of Doom 3 campaign is better than the 1st. The combat is getting more intense lol
nova shale
doom3 bad
versed estuary
Got evidence to back or claim
frosty holly
may i ask you why doom 3 is horror? You have a shitton of weapons and u just kill stuff?
frosty holly
agree to disagree
versed estuary
Yeah he’s baiting
Doom,
Holding a shit ton of weapons
Going very fast
Killing a shit ton of demons
Doom 3
Holding a shit ton of weapons
Going very fast
Killing a hit ton of demons
Sounds like doom to me
frosty holly
If you had only 1-2 weapons and very little ammo for it > Then yes, it would be more horror
BUT you have tons of tools for self defense
versed estuary
Doom 3 is only scary if you scare easily
nova shale
dont you think so too? i never finished it cause of that
frosty holly
i mean... i give you the point that it has a very dense atmosphere if you refer that as as scary
versed estuary
The atmosphere is “horror” because darkness and blood
But it’s not a scary game
nova shale
im talking bout the demons
frosty holly
but bob i tell you one fucking thing aight?
nova shale
they spooky
frosty holly
When i was young, the jumpscares made me almost shit my pants 
versed estuary
You can walk around with 50 grenades and 100 rockets 🤔
Deadass the game has some good jump scares ngl
nova shale
nah
frosty holly
Deadass the game has some good jump scares ngl
@versed estuary especially when you are like idk... a little kiddo.. you play doom 3 at night when your parents are sleeping because ur not allowed to play the game
nova shale
eternal best tho
versed estuary
“I don’t like horror games”
Doom 3 too scary I didn’t finish it
Not a doom game
Jump scares not scary
For a baiter you are not a very good one
versed estuary
Idk, you find doom 3 scary.
@versed estuary especially when you are like idk... a little kiddo.. you play doom 3 at night when your parents are sleeping because ur not allowed to play the game
Playing doom 3 at night is almost the only way to play. Maximum atmosphere
nova shale
because it a scray bro and i never said any of the things you just listed
frosty holly
To make one thing clear as hell:
No one has the right to tell anyone to stay out of this channel
As long as nothing is against the rules
slim willow
Mhm
Ok then
Are you saying people can come in to a channel that clearly says "doom 3" and then shit on it cause it's "not doom"?
empty rock
@slim willow Everyone is allowed to voice their opinions in a appropiate manner. Regardless of the topic everyone should be nice.
scenic stratus
stop the doom3 hate
balmy ether
scenic stratus
doom3 doesn't deserve all this hate
brazen pawn
brazen pawn
how many scary parts are in Doom 3 anyway?
this time i got a similar red screen but this time my camera feels heavy and started sounding like a moan a little
and my HUD dissapear
half plank
yeah, that happens
chilly coral
i like the horror focus from doom 3 but it felt like they didn't push it far enough
half plank
Same
half plank
then go to bed
brazen pawn
nein
half plank
fair
brazen pawn
i just wanna see how scary is Doom 3
chilly coral
i never actually finished doom 3
brazen pawn
then i got freaked out twice
chilly coral
it feels too much like half life
brazen pawn
no jumpscare on me though
chilly coral
definitely a different vibe and gameplay style, but in terms of structure and progression it feels a lot like half life to me, but that's just my perspective
half plank
Fair, not saying you're wrong, just said that is how I feel.
brazen pawn
no wonder why i said i don't like horror games
it makes me quit game every single scary parts
chilly coral
i love horror games. it's unlikely doom will ever be "scary" again but it's nice while we had it
half plank
According to Romero, they wanted the original DOOM to give off a creepier vibe, but clearly that is not how it turned out. On a similar note, I hope Ancient Gods has more darker moments.
chilly coral
doom 3 is probably closer to what ID always intended, considering doom is basically aliens meets evil dead
the only style of horror they could go with would be lovecraftian from here on out
dire crystal
The horror element in Doom 3 works a bit like Bloodborne. At first you just constantly get spooked and ambushed, but when you memorize where the enemies spawn and they behave, you become the horror for the demons
honest lynx
Eventually the fear goes away and you push the demons. Something I loved about doom 3
half plank
Doom 3 is poorly paced in some areas, but overrall it is a fun ride. It really isn't a "Doom game" by the standards of every other game, but it still manages to feel like a Doom game.
versed estuary
Not as fast paced, but still fast paced by horror game standards. Not as horror as other horror games but still horror atmosphere like
Pacing i agree is an issue in the main campaign
They spend too much time trying to set a scary tone in the first 3 hours which can easily be done in the first 20min like ROE
dire crystal
I’d say Mars City levels were well crafted and had some good scares. Then it goes downhill with Alpha Labs and their no sense of progression and darker than dark level design and hits rock bottom with Communications. After that the game picks up the pace and is pretty solid all the way to the end. Cyberdemon sucks though
honest lynx
I believe its lost missions where the armor trap leads to an imp right behind you when you turn around
That was fantastic
patent coyote
https://youtu.be/MSf2IV8YHMs this would make some sick boss battle music
Any else agree?
half plank
uh, why'd you post this in every chat?
eternal marten
uh, why'd you post this in every chat?
@half plank because he is in fact the boss we must battle
I’d say Mars City levels were well crafted and had some good scares. Then it goes downhill with Alpha Labs and their no sense of progression and darker than dark level design and hits rock bottom with Communications. After that the game picks up the pace and is pretty solid all the way to the end. Cyberdemon sucks though
@dire crystal so I'm not wrong in hating life while in alpha labs?
safe drift
Honestly I'd argue that the cyberdemon in doom 3 would be the Strongest version of the cyberdemon if it weren't for the imps
Hot take, I know, but hear me out; That thing couldn't be hurt by conventional weapons. Only the soul cube, and even that took a couple shots
versed estuary
Actually that was just a forced mechanic for the game
Realistically it would certainly be damaged by normal weaponry
Not to mention the cube instakills whatever it’s sent after. It “should” also kill the Cyberdemon in one hit
safe drift
I get what you mean, lore and gameplay in doom kinda clashes a bit sometimes, but I think when it's specific as "only this weapon can hurt this boss" it is safe to assume it's the same in-lore as well. A bit like ||the Spirits and the Microwave beam mod for the plasma gun in the ancient gods||
versed estuary
So what your saying is
Doom 3 cyberdemon
Is the strongest demon in all of doom
safe drift
Nah, not the strongest in all of doom
versed estuary
Since without the cube, it would be invincible
honest lynx
That's a difficult thing to determine especially since all the weapons in your possession are weaker prototypes in a sense compared to other dooms. The bfg is a compact iteration with a smaller blast radius the rockets were used to dispose of barrels. It gets messy to determine once you go down that rabbit hole
safe drift
It would be the strongest iteration of the cyberdemon, except imps show up and kinda ruin his party
versed estuary
Idk. I’d say doom 2016 is the strongest version of the Cyberdemon.
It was alive.
Died
Brought back to life
Killed
Brought back to life again
It lived 3 times.
honest lynx
Baalgar are no joke for sure
versed estuary
Baalgar also could tank 6+ BFG shots and tons of rockets
Not weak BFG shots either, doom 2016 souped up BFG
safe drift
Aye, aye. So, here's what i'm thinking. Weakest to strongest, it's Doom 3 [with imps], Classic, tyrant, baalgar, Doom 3 [if there weren't any imps]
versed estuary
Idk swap tyrant with classic
I’m told eternals cyber demon while having tons of health isn’t really dangerous at all
Classic Cyberdemon would take off half your health ina single rocket, leave your screen red. Then hit you again
honest lynx
Take 4 bfg hits
safe drift
Yeah, I mean- It's pretty easy to deal with, I just put it over classic because it has more attacks.
Classic deals more direct damage, tyrant has more methods of dealing damage
charred fox
Eternal cyberdemon kinda just stands around like a lost child
Classic constantly pursued you and is the fastest monster in the game IIRC
But I guess baron was the one that fit the “big and aggressive” role for eternal
scenic stratus
can't wait till doom eternal is open source
charred fox
Yeh
half plank
classic archvile is faster
charred fox
Ah right
Which is even more ironic considering he also stands in one place mostly in eternal
He does teleport pretty fast though
dire crystal
In Doom 2016
scenic stratus
I am loving Doom 3
honest lynx
Gooud gooud
half plank
we will watch your career with great interest
slim willow
latent ridge
guess what
you can now play doom 3 on a phone
I am loving Doom 3
@scenic stratus doom 3 is awesome
coral finch
any payment tho?
carmine knot
coral finch
ah, okay
languid atlas
Is doom 3 canon
chilly coral
no, but i like to pretend that it happens the same time as doom 1
brazen pawn
wow really?
honest lynx
No it would make more sense if it happened alot longer before doom 1 as a prequel. First contact with hell that's covered up
chilly coral
i never thought of it like that
im still not convinced that its impossible to cram doom 3 lore in there somewhere
honest lynx
Its actually as simple as changing the date it took place really... and it would fit right in. But it takes place in the 2140s just like 2016
chilly coral
that's something that can be easily retconned
half plank
just change the date from the 2140s to lets say, the 2100s or something
chilly coral
only a couple hundred more years until doom becomes real
rigid scaffold
do any of y’all know the name of the doom3 title music?
rigid scaffold
tysm
slim willow
I've lost count of how many times i've listened to this song
eternal marten
title song always reminded me of Tool
coral solstice
Tweaker isn't the title lmao
Tweaker is the composer
or maybe it was just Chris Vrenna, who was part of Tweaker
charred fox
That name always did seem weird
fair bramble
Do the new console ports have keyboard and mouse support?
scenic stratus
the psclassic had keyboard support
brazen pawn
i'm weak at horror games.... why tf i'm playing Doom 3
versed estuary
Look in all the mirrors for cool Easter eggs
brazen pawn
dude i know that jumpscare
also i'm inside the restroom
now i'm trapped
i m d o o m e d
dire crystal
FYI the in game music is compressed AF and the Main Theme in Eternal was probably the first time it could be heard in high quality
honest lynx
Punch a z sec to death for me
dire crystal
With Flashlight
charred fox
Yes
brazen pawn
i mean i'm infront of a fecking mirror
little raven
Bonk the mirror with your flashlight
little raven
Bonk
half plank
bonk
half plank
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/757420034229272579/759245701565251634/1594528904399.png trite emote when? 
scenic stratus
Ummmmm....
delicate rock
robust rover
Yes
slim willow
Marine marine marine!
scenic stratus
i just cant fucking do it with this game
horror games are just not my thing
sucks though cause i really wanna beat this game but i cant bring myself to do so
dire crystal
No, Doom is boom and Doom 3 is boom 3
scenic stratus
How do I mod doom 3
little raven
The triter mastermind
covert anchor
So much missed opportunity with the trite
little raven
Doom 3 but only trites
dire crystal
Imagine Sergeant Kelly trite, that shoots BFG
honest lynx
Trite sarge is coming for you...
scenic stratus
Make a mod for a giant trite please
@honest lynx damn chill out satan
scenic stratus
Any one down to play on Xbox?
little raven
Speaking of xbox
All the doom games are going on gamepass soon
Do you know if the og xbox version of 3 will be on the pass or will it be the rerelease
versed estuary
Only eternal is coming
half plank
og xbox version isnt on xbox one, i had to play on my old dusty xbox to finish it.
faint owl
So... when do pc bfg edition owners get the red og doomguy for eternal?
versed estuary
You have to buy the rerelease version of doom 3
Not the BFG edition
Rerelease of doom 3 is only in Bethesda launcher
faint owl
Ahh. Just thought because they patch doom 1 and 2 and players now have the indigo and brown skin. Thought
Maybe doom 3 bfg was next :(
versed estuary
Nah
Even in Bethesda launcher they just added Doom 3 rerelease . They didn’t update the BFG edition
Assuming they add the rerelease to steam, it would be a separate game, not update
faint owl
So what's different?
versed estuary
Doom 3 rerelease is basically just the BFG edition without the Doom 1-2
faint owl
🤣
versed estuary
Price wise it’s the exact same overall
BFG is $20
Game and doom 1-2
Rerelease is $10
Doom 1-2 $5 each
The only thing I can think of was it was easier to change the coding for the rerelease, which is why it’s on every platform including switch.
faint owl
Considering I already own it (both bfg and original doom 3) I'm going to have to skip
versed estuary
Yeah. If you really want the skin it goes on sale every now and then for $3-5 USD
Depending how badly you want the skin
faint owl
I can live with out it tbh I only asked after the patch to doom 1 and 2
versed estuary
Yeah, if they do it likely will just be them adding the game to the store not updating. I agree it sucks but it is what it is
I know plenty of people who bought dooms 1-3 numerous times and still had to rebuy for the skins
little raven
I don’t have BFG Edition
So if they put it on steam I’ll just get that
The only reason I would want bfg is just to have lm
That’s the main draw
versed estuary
Lm?
little raven
Lost missions
faint owl
I think I've bought doom 1 2 and 3 multiple time already
1 and 2 floppy disks
The Doom Collection (1 2 and final doom on disk with doom 3 preview)
Doom 1 2 and final on steam.
Doom 3 disk
Doom 3 bfg edition
Then doom 3 on steam just for mods
Lost missions hell level is epic
faint owl
@little raven yeah lol
little raven
Can you post em in showroom?
faint owl
@little raven oh no I had them I don't have them anymore sadly
little raven
Good conversation piece
faint owl
It was released before doom 3
faint owl
@little raven wait that was on floppy?
faint owl
@little raven is beyond castle wolfenstein the one before wolf3d?
little raven
Not sure
little raven
Are the 2d ones good
I’ve only played 3d and that game was really bad
It aged really poorly
faint owl
😪 I played it, it's better with proper mouse support and modern resolutions
@little raven umm the 2d ones I've never played they weren't made by ID. They're pretty archaic and mainly stealth games.
little raven
I know that
Were they any fun
faint owl
I have no idea i want to try them my self
little raven
I know there is this one exploit
About going back and forth between screens if you get caught or something
scenic stratus
I am about 7 hours into Doom 3. Love this game. If I played this when it came out originally would have been my favorite game at the time.
little raven
That’s great
honest lynx
I did and it is
faint owl
@scenic stratus how old are you if you don't mind me asking
little raven
Don’t forget to check cabinet 666
honest lynx
Yeah special goods in there
scenic stratus
I am in my 30s. When Doom 3 came out My PC wouldn't run it.
little raven
I know that feeling
honest lynx
Mine barley could as well but still looked good and full multiplayer lobbies
little raven
Doom 3 is the only game my pc can run competently
half plank
full multiplayer lobbies
faint owl
@scenic stratus oh damn yeah it was epic when it first release still is tbf
scenic stratus
I switched to consoles around that time. I think the last game I played on pc was return to castle wolfenstein
half plank
Doom 3 was on Xbox
faint owl
Return to castle wolfenstein is the best one
honest lynx
I still remember the begining shuttle that comes in in the begining looking like straight cheese and betrugers face looked worse than it does now
faint owl
honest lynx
Never hire someone with a dead eye. Moral of the story
scenic stratus
The new doom games are cool and everything but the horror elements in doom 3 are really great
little raven
Doesn’t his name mean bretayer in german
honest lynx
Yeeah
faint owl
I love it when people rag on the game and say " betruger is so cartoonish" like bruh you play as a lone marine shooting demons in the face with a shotgun. Doom has always been cartoonish
little raven
Olivia is so lame
half plank
Betruger is just comedic, it feels like they wanted a serious villain, but Carmack was too busy smoking raisins.
And I'm not mad one bit.
faint owl
I love it. Doom 3 is pretty self aware
little raven
He talked so much shit he became a tongue
honest lynx
I wish there was a doom 3 collectors edition I could add to the doom room
I'd buy that shit so fast
scenic stratus
Maybe they will come back to this style one day but I doubt it. The Fast frenatic pace of the new Doom games is what people are loving.
half plank
I wish there was a doom 3 collectors edition I could add to the doom room
@honest lynx
Xbox version
little raven
Hey scorch
half plank
I own it
little raven
What do you think of the shotgun
scenic stratus
Not a big fan of it tbh
half plank
Still, it has interviews and stuff
little raven
The shotgun is wonky
faint owl
@honest lynx make your own turkey puncher cabinet 😅
half plank
The Xbox version is something all Doom 3 obsessors should own. At least imo
little raven
It’s like a personality test of wether you like it or not
scenic stratus
I feel like it should do more damage.
honest lynx
If there was turkey puncher merch...
little raven
It can one shot a revenant
faint owl
Shotgun in doom 3 is powerful and works fine for doom 3
little raven
The main problem with it is how inconsistent it is
I just wish it had an average damage
honest lynx
Yeah I don't know how you can hate on the shotgun it's your best tool
faint owl
It's constant just need to shoot them in the chest point blank
little raven
Chaingun is the best doom 3 weapon imo
faint owl
1 shot kill every time
honest lynx
Nah plasma
half plank
machine gun and plasma gun for me
faint owl
Plasma is best
honest lynx
Machine gun for the z sec
scenic stratus
The plasma gun has been my friend so far
little raven
Plasma and chaingun are the best
faint owl
My dad played the entirely of doom 3 without picking up the plasma like a true boomer
honest lynx
It ruins the fun a bit
half plank
little raven
The reload sound of the plasma is the best sound effect ever
honest lynx
I try to use it least of all except during my nightmare run
half plank
right
faint owl
Bfg is a travesty
half plank
well, off to write the BFG Edition list of sins
faint owl
Og doom 3 is better tbh
honest lynx
It does some things right but og is the best version
little raven
The best personality test question
Og or BFG Edition doom 3
scenic stratus
I am playing on my PS4 so i guess its just the bfg edition basically
faint owl
Wish there was a classic option to bfg edition
half plank
Og by 100 miles
honest lynx
Yeah I did my nightmare run on bfg ps4 it was a good time
little raven
Im fine with no bonk flashlight
It’s the extra ammo
faint owl
Ammo pick ups are too large and having the light on 247 kills the atmosphere
honest lynx
Yeah but I still had the og mentally so I kept trying to conserve ammo for no reason so it felt the same for me
little raven
Doom 3 and eternal are on opposite sides of the spectrum
Then 2016 is this weird mix of both
half plank
BFG is still a good game
faint owl
Yeah I player the whole game with out the flash. I like the imps glowing fire ball surprising me in the dark
honest lynx
You should do thr halloween challenge as well
little raven
Flashlight bonk
honest lynx
We re all doing it
faint owl
@half plank only thing it's good for is doom 1 and 2 and high res doom 3
scenic stratus
Doom 3 feels like a horror game. That is why I really like it.
little raven
Have you played roe
faint owl
It's a horror tone but it's definitely a shooter
honest lynx
Lost missions is more fast paced
little raven
It’s an horror action shooter
faint owl
Yes
little raven
Like doom 1 and 64
honest lynx
Not according to Romero 
faint owl
Doom 64 is just... bruh... terrible
little raven
What
honest lynx
He told me its survival horror lol
little raven
All credibility lost
scenic stratus
64 has some really good horror elements too.
little raven
64 is amazing what are you smoking mate
faint owl
64s level design is awful imo
honest lynx
Nooooo you were the chosen one !!!
faint owl
Lol
scenic stratus
I got 64 with Eternal and I play 64 more lolz
little raven
Im up for this
faint owl
Sorry I hate the cryptic bs in 64
versed estuary
I prefer 64 over 1-2
versed estuary
There was only 1 doom 64 map I didn’t like
I hated at least 90% of doom 2
little raven
I got lost a lot in 2
scenic stratus
Doom 2 is kinda meh
little raven
Not much in 64
honest lynx
You can borrow my map fluffy
little raven
2 is easily the worst doom game
faint owl
Cough 64 cough
versed estuary
Idk doom VFR exists
honest lynx
The wads are damn masterpieces when they are good though
little raven
Eternal
64
3
1
Plutonia
2016
2
faint owl
All vr games are trash
honest lynx
You just broke carmacks heart
faint owl
Glorified arcade games
little raven
It’s a coin toss wether eternal or 64 is better
faint owl
Glorified on rail games
scenic stratus
I need to play Eternal again. That game is hard for my old ass reflexes
little raven
I wanna try 3 in vr so badly
charred fox
I just wish eternal had better level design
64 is cryptic but it’s really explorative and immersive
And also got fun combat
faint owl
Not it's not it's just annoying and every map is a square shape after level 4
charred fox
I don’t recall a single square lol
little raven
And why no 64 skin in eternal
honest lynx
Fix betrugers face
faint owl
Half the maps became square castle shapes near the end it sucked
brazen pawn
for some reason i want carmack and romero back together
honest lynx
I dont think they like eachother
faint owl
By far the worst doom game imo
scenic stratus
The next doom game make it darker and creepier so I am afraid to play it in the dark with my headset on lol
little raven
Then world will end before the John’s come back together
honest lynx
Carmack could help out with the next doom though
charred fox
*Oh no, squares!!!!!
honest lynx
Like he wants to
charred fox
Ye
faint owl
Vr is a fad
honest lynx
Like those 3d books when I was a kid
faint owl
It's like in alpha stages atm
scenic stratus
None of the games I have seen on VR look that great.
charred fox
Superhot vr is pretty fun
little raven
My only complaints are
No ost
No ost
No ost
No ost
Not enough secrets and exportation
brazen pawn
idk why but every single comment on Doom related videos must have this "doom 3 doesn't feel like doom" and "in doom you are the horror" on and on
it's annoying
charred fox
The cold truth is that doom was always horror themed
brazen pawn
ikr
charred fox
It’s just that you also fought the horror
faint owl
Until they get holographic rooms and tiny wrist bands as controller vr for me isn't worth it
scenic stratus
Doom 3 IS DOOM
charred fox
Yes!
little raven
On a technical level final doom is doom 3
scenic stratus
Lol
little raven
Doom 64 is doom 4
brazen pawn
like since when doom has like futuristic weapons (minus bfg and plasma)
little raven
So doom 3 is doom 5
faint owl
Im not carrying clunky controller while wearing a stuipid thing on my head with a 10ft wire poking out
Doom 3 is more similar to doom 1 than you think
little raven
It’s a reboot of doom 1
honest lynx
💔
brazen pawn
don't blame me cuz i love all doom
faint owl
Rip carmack
little raven
Romero is a really cool guy
But man all his post episode 1 levels suck
faint owl
Sorry but vr aint worth it till 2045
brazen pawn
as long there is demon killing
little raven
I just want doom 3 uv+
faint owl
Bfg edition fixes it sort of
scenic stratus
I like when I start a level and body parts fall from the ceiling. That is great.
brazen pawn
but the textures are ahead of it's time
little raven
Doom 3 remastered would be a gift from the heavens
faint owl
Is doom 3 bfg dx11?
brazen pawn
although the game sets in hell
faint owl
Doom 3 rtx lol
brazen pawn
doom should be horror like as i know
little raven
Doom 3 remaster would be amazing
But it will never happen
Because were the bastard child for liking it
brazen pawn
more like bastard haters
faint owl
Personal I wish doom 3 was a little more like system shock 2 where yoj can return to previous levels and open previously locked areas
honest lynx
Yeah like the freak kids locked away in the basement
little raven
What if doom 3 was open world and you explored the whole facility
brazen pawn
oh yeah
faint owl
@little raven yeah systemshock 2 lol
little raven
What’s systemshock
honest lynx
I'd just like to be a clean up janitor in the UAC
faint owl
@little raven go play systemshock 2 right now!!!
little raven
What’s it about
faint owl
One of the greatest games ever made
little raven
And you do what in it
faint owl
@little raven it's about a ai and a genetically engineered virus that's battling for control over a spaceship and you're stuck in the middle trying to escape
brazen pawn
some reason i feel like doom 3 guy is doomguy
honest lynx
Nah
faint owl
The audio logs in doom 3 are inspired by systemshock
green wren
Does anyone play doom 3 original here (360)
brazen pawn
i wish he was
little raven
He’s a marine with wide shoulders
honest lynx
Pretty sure doom marine had crippling PTSD at the end and couldn't stand anymore
faint owl
I always thought the marine in roe was the same guy and he ages and lost his hair due to stress lol
Turns out I was wrong
brazen pawn
doomguy from the comics
green wren
Hey does anyone have a d 3 Xbox disc and a 360 to play. Anyone?
brazen pawn
aaand i discovered this at my Guinness World Record Gamers Edition 2020
brazen pawn
ngl everyone said that Grimm Reaper is Doomguy
green wren
Well I’m trying to do co-op with other people do one of you want to do a campaign
little raven
John grimm
brazen pawn
yes
brazen pawn
we need a proper Doom Movie
little raven
Doom really can’t be made into a movie well
brazen pawn
all i know he is a Blazkowicks
faint owl
Doom the movie... what a travesty. But doom annihilation makes it look like a master piece by comparison
faint owl
@brazen pawn the direct to dvd movie
brazen pawn
and most importantly Doomguy
faint owl
Doesn't even have doomguy in it, it's doomgirl....
brazen pawn
aaand everyone said straight feminism
faint owl
I don't mind female main characters but stop fem-washing men roles
Don't see male directors making a larry croft movie
little raven
Female characters are good when they’re written good
Like every other type of character
brazen pawn
it's like making Obama white
faint owl
Martin Luthor king played by mel Gibson
little raven
Fucking joan dark
That is the dumbest name ever
Is written like shit
brazen pawn
even fans did it better
starting to think that doom 3 is a good game to make a movie cuz of storyline focus
faint owl
It's not hard. John wick has proven you don't need a great story for a great movie
I think it's a budget thing. Doom 2016 movie would be expensive
brazen pawn
so...just make doom same as John wick
faint owl
Well yeah pretty much action packed
brazen pawn
maybe give a little jumpscare
faint owl
Tbh I wouldn't mind it being animated
brazen pawn
yea
faint owl
As long as it's faithful
brazen pawn
cuz the animation is cartoonish?
faint owl
Well it's cheaper and more likely to get made
brazen pawn
ye..
brazen pawn
hdoom flashbacks
faint owl
Haha
HDoom eternal with first person animations lol
Vr edition
Tbh i haven't played it
brazen pawn
safe drift
Hot take, the city inside Mars in doom 3 is Hebeth from doom eternal
But like, in a different dimension
slim willow
slim willow
I don't know which has the worst ending, RoE or Lost Mission
honest lynx
Well I always felt doom marine should have been the one to kill betruger other than that I dont mind roe's ending
brittle grove
red field
Is doom 3 a story driven game
half plank
sort of, its mostly just slightly spookier action though
covert anchor
With a rng shotgun
half plank
well, if you practically make out with all the demons, you're bound to kill em in about 1-2 hits
slim willow
Any tips for a fast veteran run?
scenic stratus
don't die
scenic stratus
How do I put mods in doom 3
versed estuary
Any tips for a fast veteran run?
Sprint as soon as your stamina bar is full, and use the shotgun
Sprinting at full speed will help you catch enemies unaware, and by the time most notice you are point blank with the shotgun, which does massive damage
half plank
Doom 3 has fast monsters?
honest lynx
I did what bob said in doom 3 and beat it in about 4 and a bit hours
robust rover
Time to redownload Doom 3 for
Maybe the end of my Veteran run (and maybe a NM run)
A ROE and Lost mission Run on Veteran
Time to gaming
signal garnet
I wonder where doom 3 fits into the doom universe
little raven
It doesn’t
versed estuary
Currently the best guess is that it’s parallel universe #3
little raven
It’s a spin off
signal garnet
Maybe
signal garnet
idk but the classic universe is screwed
versed estuary
By doom law, it’s 1 Hell for every reality/ universe.
But hell has its own time/ dimensions / portals etc
Doom 1-2-64 take place in one universe/ reality
Doom 2016/eternal are in the other
3 would be another reality / universe
In other words,
Welcome to the Mess Hall marine
Because this timeline and reality business is a mess
signal garnet
hell extends to every universe that has mars and portals in it
little raven
They should’ve had eternal happen on the same earth as doom 2
Just add in some dialogue about how earth has seen the demons before but there stronger this time
This makes the 64 theory work
And smooths the timeline
signal garnet
Humanity would have to build from scraps in the timeline for that to happen
because they almost went extinct in doom2
chilly coral
would that make plutonia its own dimension after 64?
signal garnet
the dimensions and stuff is confusing
but we can make it work by just killing demons
versed estuary
Yeah i stopped caring too much about connecting timelines
chilly coral
the timeline boiled down to basics: lots of demons. shoot them good
versed estuary
I just leave it as
1-2-64 same reality
3 is a separate one
2016/eternal it’s own
After that I just kill demons
signal garnet
big gun go brrr and demons die or you are playing on UN and big projectile go brrr and doom man is dead
now what reality is ours?
the first game was set in the early 21st centry
little raven
We be in the doom 3 timeline
The demons never made it to earth
chilly coral
if there are an infinite amount of realities, our reality exists out there somewhere
chilly coral
its doomguy protecting us from the demons making first contact
our government is the uac
chilly coral
is the doom movie an adaptation of doom 3?
honest lynx
Multiverses are dope you fluff ball
chilly coral
and is the doom movie its own dimension?
signal garnet
the doom movies are cursed and should be burned
as long as we dont mention them they should die out
chilly coral
isnt another one coming out?
slim willow
The 2005 Doom movie is still better than Doom Annihilation
chilly coral
a doom movie could work with the right budget and staying as far away from doom 3 as possible. doom 3 is fine but its done to death for movie adaptations
signal garnet
try and make a movie about the first, second, 64, 2016, or eternal
little raven
The problem is that doom has no talking characters
Except over the radio in eternal and 2016
slim willow
1, 2 and 64 probably wouldn't work
signal garnet
they could make an alternate universe story with the doom man
or this time with the sentinels
chilly coral
annhilation in concept is close, for doom 1, but it is so incredibly butchered in execution.
honest lynx
John wick works and the only thing he does is shoot people and say ya
chilly coral
Space John Wick
signal garnet
i want more super shotty gameplay, none of the instakill bfg nonsense
chilly coral
doom 3 has the worst story imo
signal garnet
its just doom 1 without the fast pace shooty mc gun face
chilly coral
its just half life but with demons and cartoon character villains
signal garnet
I am evil scientist man
little raven
That’s why bretugar is amazing
He’s absolutely hilarious
chilly coral
I am the evil science guy. why? because i am evil
signal garnet
yes
slim willow
I would say 2016 had the worst story, it was more focused on gameplay meanwhile Doom 3 had no idea what it wanted to be
signal garnet
I agree just a tad because all of the story was in index logs
chilly coral
i would rather have dr bertruger over olivia
little raven
Olivia is a boring bretugar
chilly coral
but 2016 has way better lore
little raven
She’s super slow and boring
signal garnet
Oliva walked like a penguin
chilly coral
olivia and doomguy only have like 2 interactionsx
little raven
Why would anyone want to watch olivia play connect 4 for ages while the doom guy could easily kill her but doesn’t because plot
signal garnet
olivia had a plot sheild
little raven
Doomguy proof glass
chilly coral
yeah in reality doomguy would throw himself through that fucking window
signal garnet
no doom guy would just materialize though the window
just appear on the other side
why am i doing this convo in the middle of English class
slim willow
I feel like if we knew more about Betruger he would have been a better antagonist
chilly coral
dont worry bro im talking about this during ethics
signal garnet
yay for not doing school work
little raven
The doom slayer the most feared thing in the universe
Is stopped by a slow walking cyborg nerd
And a window
chilly coral
we do not know much about bertruger other than his motives
signal garnet
no he is stopped by glass
honest lynx
He was basically a scientist and the demons kept invading his dreams until he became corrupt and decided to help them for power
little raven
With his evil eye
chilly coral
bertruger is like palpatine and dr breen's love child
little raven
And has name means betrayer in German
signal garnet
Ah the german language is some how always evil
little raven
There was no way if software didn’t know how funny he is
signal garnet
i personally have never played doom 3 but i know quite a bit about it
slim willow
Betruger doesn't have a single audio log
chilly coral
how rad would it be if bertruger showed up in the ancient gods dlc
little raven
He talks so much shit he becomes a tongue
signal garnet
that would be awesome
little raven
They knew
honest lynx
No audio log but they talk about how he was corrupted
slim willow
I would have liked to hear him when he was still a normal person
slim willow
Indeed
acoustic kayakBOT
Indeed!
chilly coral
there is nothing morally good about the uac in doom 3 though which doesnt allow any room really for a good dr bertruger
signal garnet
I like the uac in 2016 and eternal
little raven
They’ll have their product
honest lynx
Actually alot of the work in alpha labs is identical to argent energy applications
chilly coral
in what way?
little raven
A lot of 2016 was inspired by 3
chilly coral
good luck chin elemental
the doom 3 uac, from a visual perspective, looks kinda lame tbh
little raven
Imo it’s still the best uac
honest lynx
The fact it looks primitive is one reason why it would fit as a prequel
slim willow
Doom 3 had an amazing atmosphere
chilly coral
eternal has my favorite hell
little raven
Nekroval is pretty awesome
chilly coral
would doom 2016's hell be a desert from a biome perspective in hell?
since all hells are the same hell
and doom 3 looks much more like eternals so that would be geographically closer
little raven
In the new game lore
Hell absorbs other worlds
So 2016 hell is definitely not real hell
chilly coral
is it exultia then?
slim willow
Btw is it just me or does the BFG Edition totally take away the original Doom 3 feel?
little raven
I haven’t played bfg
honest lynx
Bfg is fine. Just fine. Original is better
slim willow
BFG Edition awkwardly tried to turn Doom 3 into fast action (atleast with the lost mission)
little raven
Lm is the only reason why I would buy bfg
honest lynx
Lost missions is fantastic honestly
slim willow
Lm really isn't that good even though i prefer it over RoE for some reason lol
little raven
Roe is really great
honest lynx
Sorry you feel that way its definitely my favorite and my favorite dlc for nightmare mode
versed estuary
Lost Mission is perfect imo
1 hour 10 min of nonstop hardcore action, while still keeping that all alone feel
little raven
Isn’t the lm guy the roe dude
slim willow
Nope
versed estuary
3 different people
little raven
Doom marine
Other doom marine
Other other doom marine
little raven
I think lm has a boat ride
honest lynx
Yeah its bravo team
You're the lone survivor
You do on the river styx
Its pretty cool
versed estuary
Lost mission has the best hell out of every doom
No contest
slim willow
Btw i've noticed that in the bethesda.net version of Doom 3 with 100 FOV, the shotgun has a weird bug that makes the back of the shotgun dissappear
versed estuary
It’s Hell is so good. They even created a concept art for eternal that HEAVILY looks like a lost mission level
honest lynx
I usually do 90 fov 100 is to much
slim willow
80 FOV feels weird
versed estuary
For me depends on the game
honest lynx
I thought that concept was lost missions hahaha
versed estuary
I hate when the game warps and stretches when you increase FOV.
Like doom 64 stretches
Earthfall fov just lets you see more. No stretching or warping
slim willow
I'm still mad that i lost my PS3 version BFG Edition copy
chilly coral
i have it on xbox 360 only so i could play the doom 1 and 2 co op with a friend
dire crystal
That’s because fov is calculated differently. 100 Fov of Doom 3 BFG is ~85 FOV of vanilla Doom 3
honest lynx
Doom 3 multiplayer still exists? Cool
brazen pawn
i checked there is no servers
scenic stratus
this game is pretty good
honest lynx
No I think that one dude was just having a stroke
spare olive
lol
it pisses me off that i can’t get the multiplayer achievements on doom 3 bfg edition
spare olive
ps3
theres some achievements for stuff like “kill someone while invisible” or something
honest lynx
Ahh yeah there's on multiplayer achievement for ps4
spare olive
bfg edition isnt for ps4
oh did you know that they actually remastered doom 3 for ps4?
versed estuary
The rerelease
It’s not a remaster. It’s just the BFG edition without the doom 1-2
spare olive
im still stuck on ROE
i have finished the main campaign and i also finished the Lost Mission
narrow mantle
As soon as you find the minigun the game is no longer a horror game
brazen pawn
more like BFG
latent ridge
As soon as you find the minigun the game is no longer a horror game
@narrow mantle minigun?
oh the chaingun
i guess yea
signal plover
How does the game compare to the classics/ newer games?
latent ridge
but the rest of the game is still a horror game
How does the game compare to the classics/ newer games?
@signal plover the same
signal plover
Ayy bet, i've never played doom 3
latent ridge
the diferences are:
its dark and you need to pull out that shitty flashlight (if you didnt get the bfg edition)
not as fast paced but still good
mods mods mods mods mods mods mods and more mods
GRAPHICS!!!!!
thats about it
Lost mission has the best hell out of every doom
No contest
wasnt lost mission based off that iphone game from ~2007?
narrow mantle
@narrow mantle minigun?
@latent ridge chain gun sorry
bold mason
@latent ridge You seem to have some experience with Doom 3. I just started playing and I'm only about 14 hours in and I'm almost to Hell on Nightmare, is this game considered too easy among the rest of the fan base?
14 hours in = First playthrough took me about 8 on Normal, 4hrs into my current playthrough on Nightmare
versed estuary
Doom 3 isn’t an exceptionally hard game, but it will have parts that definitely try to kill you hard
latent ridge
the parts that do are usually when you're on low health and theres that imp that you're about to kill but the rng isn't in your favor
and some parts where doors shut behind you and 3 demons pop up ready to eat you alive
versed estuary
Most of my deaths are from my grenades bouncing back
latent ridge
doom 3 is pretty harsh on ammo but on easier difficulties it isnt a problem
versed estuary
latent ridge
doom 3 moment
versed estuary
I have the rerelease so ammo is no issue
I can pretty much walk around with 100 rockets and 50 grenades at all times
But I pretty much just use the shotgun and smg
latent ridge
go for the original if you know how to fiddle with config files
buy the bfg rerelease if you want a more user friendly experience
thats usually what i say if anyone wants a doom 3 buying guide
versed estuary
All I have is switch
latent ridge
switch is bfg
versed estuary
Yes I know
Tbh I much prefer the rerelease
I’ve seen gameplay of OG doom 3 and imo it’s a bit too dark
I’m fine with darkness, but that was too dark
latent ridge
if its pc this could help you with finishing the game https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=17oxNEVj6Uv8hsE4oyvoYgqFD8NkICTNj
half plank
"too dark"
chilly coral
the shotgun bullet spread is so wide you are bound to hit something in the dark
little raven
The shotgun is weird
Most of the time it one shots everything
But sometimes it doesn’t
chilly coral
you have to be really up close to hit anything though
half plank
Sometimes it just shrugs and does no damage whatsoever.
chilly coral
yeah but you have to stick it up a demons rump to do effective damage
half plank
Shotguns have spread, but you can still do damage from at least 10 or more feet away
little raven
There’s a balance
half plank
the spread of 3's shotgun is stupidly unrealistic
little raven
You don’t want the doom 3 shotgun
But you don’t want the sniper rifle that is the doom 1 shotgun
half plank
Yeah, a good balance of the 2.
chilly coral
doom eternal has my favorite doom shotgun
little raven
Eternal nailed the combat shotty
chilly coral
doom 3's shotgun would have been better if it had some sort of mod attachment like 2016 and eternal
half plank
I disagree, it would've been better if it had less spread.
little raven
Imagine if 3 had mods
chilly coral
well, obiously. it would still be a boring shotgun even with good spread
little raven
Doom 3 has the best plasma par etero
half plank
The beta shotgun had a cooler design, the final version is ugly as shit.
chilly coral
the doom 3 plasma rifle is op
honest lynx
I think its op in a good way. It's what commandos deserve
chilly coral
doesnt it destroy projectiles?
honest lynx
Yeah cacos revs... it's very useful for that purpose
bold mason
Most of my deaths are from my grenades bouncing back
@versed estuary Every damn time
buy the bfg rerelease if you want a more user friendly experience
@latent ridge Wish I'd known that. I've had Doom 3 for a minute, but never played it out of lack of interest.
half plank
No, buy the original you swine.
honest lynx
Grenades are pretty insanely good if you know how to use them
half plank
you mean rubber balls?
honest lynx
No ones beaten my vagary time yet ;)
honest lynx
chilly coral
wow, you make doom 3 look fun
bold mason
No, buy the original you swine.
@half plank I bought both. Because I wanted the DLC and I was drunk, so it didn't click that BFG was going to come with DLC...
So I bought BFG, didn't see the DLC in my Library, so I bought Doom 3 and the expansions.
So what mods do you guys recommend? Especially for a better gameplay experience.
half plank
Sikk mod
brazen pawn
duct tape
half plank
half plank
yeah, why would you want that
brazen pawn
more simple?
like i don't have to switch every single time
although the lights is only for Shotgun and Rifle
brazen pawn
now if you excuse me i'm going to play HDoom
half plank
i believe it also adds some gameplay stuff
bold mason
I'm looking at it on MODDB and everything looks like lights actually work
Aaaaahhhh okay I'm watching some gameplay someone uploaded... looks better. much better than BFG like I've been grinding on
Oh God you know what I can't stand about this game? The head twitch when you get hit.
brazen pawn
ight i'm back what did i miss
robust rover
I forget how this game is beautiful
bold mason
10min is kinda fast for it being Simptember... sus
robust rover
Doom 3 lightning was fucking good
bold mason
Vanilla or BFG?
half plank
Vanilla, BFG scales back some of the effects because Carmack decided to fucking patent some of his effects.
robust rover
I'm in Alpha 4
dire crystal
Follow me
Come on, hurry
They took my baby
honest lynx
I think that's the vagary fucking with you
silk sigil
I wondered why the BFG one looked weird. They did take away some effects. Fucking sucks because it's a pain in the ass to play doom 3 without mods.
latent ridge
No, buy the original you swine.
@half plank it doesnt have to be the "original experience" if you just wanna play and enjoy the game
if you want to play a game you shouldn't care about what version you're playing on, its doom 3 bfg yes, but its still doom 3
go for the originals if you want but damn will it need a lot of fiddling to work properly
honest lynx
@latent ridge sgt swiss says that all the time hes just joking around. He actually enjoyed his bfg playthrough
signal perch
This game has 0 link to the lore of doom
honest lynx
Yes
little raven
It’s a spin off what did you think
signal perch
bruh
silver ore
I love Doom 3, its one of my favorite games of all time.
signal perch
The guns shoot so slow
little raven
I love Doom 3, its one of my favorite games of all time
Agreed
versed estuary
Same
honest lynx
Since hell is extra dimensional it could be possible it is connected but they decided not to yet
silver ore
The only thing I don't love about the gun is how RNG the shotgun is. Besides that I think it is a solid entry.
signal perch
It looks like something from aliens vs predator
little raven
what if olivia is bretugars niece
honest lynx
That would actually fit
versed estuary
Actually there is linkage if you look at the stone tablets and the cube with the prophecy of the great hero.
However it seems they will just keep that as a vague connection
honest lynx
Hahaha
Nah but yeah doom 3 could fit easily
They wouldn't even have to try that hard
versed estuary
They could literally just show a 3 second flashback of the slayer with the cube doing the Pose and it would connect easily
honest lynx
Real damn fast
little raven
Soul cube for eternal dlc
versed estuary
Eh
honest lynx
The alien race is already something we know about
silver ore
Yo what if you use the Soul Cube to kill one of the Titans?!
versed estuary
Would kinda suck ngl
silver ore
Dang...
versed estuary
I don’t wanna send a cube to kill the Titan for me
little raven
I had a theory that 3 and 64 are connected
versed estuary
That’s what makes the Cyberdemon fight suck
honest lynx
Soul cube's holding the giant breech now no way of getting it back anyways
versed estuary
Welll that assumes the doom 3 universe doesn’t take place in the future
silver ore
True. But what about something like the Icon of Sin, and then the finishing hit is the Cube? Kinda like how the Crucible was the final hit for the Icon of Sin?
little raven
So doom 3 happened and the marine was sent back to the uac base on earth
Then 64 happens
Then the 64-2016 thing goes on
This make sense of the 3 hell knights in the new games and why doomguy has black hair in eternal
honest lynx
Nah doom marine is not doom guy hes just a random unlucky lucky dude
little raven
It’s just a little headcannon of mine because episode two of doom 1 doesn’t deserve to be canon
honest lynx
Just beat it dont be a baby
honest lynx
No the rest of 1
little raven
If I remember correctly 3 is better then 2
honest lynx
And say doom 1 sucks after
spare olive
doom 3 is just a random marine
charred fox
Doom 3 guy clocked into work on a bad day
spare olive
and during the time of doom 3, doomguy was inside his coffin thing in hell so thats why you dont see him in the game
little raven
I call him the doom dude
spare olive
i call doom3guy doom marine
honest lynx
That's his technical name
little raven
Doom dude is easier to type
spare olive
what do we call the marine from RoE
little raven
Other doom marine
little raven
Lm guy is other other doom marine
charred fox
Because he molests souls
honest lynx
Greig pootah.... Georges brother ...
charred fox
Fuck
spare olive
who here has red the old doom books
charred fox
Not me but I wish I did : (
spare olive
the ones from 96
versed estuary
I just go with
Doom Marine
The Engineer
Random Marine 47
honest lynx
Third guy is bravo team marine
spare olive
i bought a og copy of the 96 doom book on ebay
little raven
Doom dude
Doom dude bro
Doom dude who has no friends
spare olive
the doom books are in alt universe
honest lynx
Bravo team!!!
versed estuary
The number of the random marine changes depending how badly I forget