i do, you have to be on your toes in a nightmare run
#doom-3
honest lynx
^ goooud goooud
versed estuary
I’ll still do nightmare with no sprint
scenic stratus
yep you can get away without sprinting on easier difficulties but not on nightmare
honest lynx
Only way I could see around that without sprint is maybe a quick grenade throw
But if you're close enough to trigger the door the grenade would probably kill you
scenic stratus
you would have to be a masochist to do nightmare without sprinting
robust rover
NM is already masochist
scenic stratus
not really, just requires a bit of concentration and practice.
honest lynx
Nightmare is a blast
scenic stratus
im enjoying it too
versed estuary
I managed to do veteran with minimal damage / imp leaps
west tiger
I just beat DOOM 3 and got the speed run achievement for it by beating it under 10 hours.
Gonna play the resurrection of evil campaign now.
scenic stratus
RoE is so much better, have fun
honest lynx
Roe malidict on nightmare is the only proper boss battle
west tiger
Nightmare is locked for me, do I have to beat a campaign to unlock nightmare?
worn bloom
hey guys
versed estuary
Yes electro
scenic stratus
nightmare is basically this game's newgame+
honest lynx
Extacly. It's how doom 3 should be played honestly
scenic stratus
im a disgrace for putting it off for so long, i got to enpro plant and dropped it. im doing it now though
honest lynx
Enpro is a slog though but delta makes up for it
scenic stratus
does anyone know if the rerelease fixed the game breaking elevator glitch that was reintroduced by the bfg edition?
It's not that frequent but happened to me once
versed estuary
I played the re release and never encountered any issues so maybe?
scenic stratus
Support gave me the ol' "it's working as intended" i crap you not
honest lynx
@scenic stratus if you're talking about the delta 1 glitch its always been around. It is not a bfg glitch. If you try to activate the elevators before restarting the generators it activates the glitch occasionally. Unfortunately you need to start over or go to your last save. Ruined my first doom 3 speed run honestly
scenic stratus
@honest lynx I heard they fixed it later on with the og Doom3 but maybe i'm wrong. First time it happened to me was on BFG and had no older save
honest lynx
It made me sad inside haha but the next morning I beat doom 3 in 4 hours for thr speed run faster than before. You got this
scenic stratus
@honest lynx don't worry it's an old memory, i bought the new rerelease anyway, it's a good port.
also nice speed run
honest lynx
@scenic stratus thanks bro. It was honestly stressful but I love doom 3 . You have a favourite area?
scenic stratus
@honest lynx I think Delta Labs sector 3 partly because of the specific gore growth that's there and also some parts of hell. Doom 3's visual design is faithful to id's spirit and yet manages to feel unique
gameplay wise i like the intricacy of the service lift area and it's pretty fun
what's your favourite area?
@honest lynx
scenic stratus
the door with all the sculpts and the black statues at the beginning are something to witness
umbral mango
I must say I really respect ID for going for something else and risking for it
I'm almost in the end of the game
Doom 3 has its flaws or things that could have been better
but,a bad game?
Nah
scenic stratus
true, it's a very good game, also something to experience if you like atmospheric games
umbral mango
Oh trust me when I say that I love atmospheric games
scenic stratus
Me too, when i play a game it's also to experience a world
umbral mango
Doom 3 is on its own league when it comes to that
Same for me, that's why I play videogames
To travel
scenic stratus
i'm replaying doom/final doom for ps1 before replaying doom 64, dark embient music, colored lights and same sounds on both
after that doom 3
umbral mango
That's the kind of atmospheres I like
scenic stratus
i imagine the sarcophagus and the stone tablets in doom3 are of the doomguy/slayer it works
umbral mango
I don't think it works that way...
Since Doom 2016 wasn't a thing until several years later
scenic stratus
eh, we never know with hugo martin, i think they want to link everything retroactively
umbral mango
One of my favorite things about Doom 3 is the Soul Cube
scenic stratus
yep, when it whispers
umbral mango
Linking the classic games to the newer ones, since Doom 3 is pretty much Doom 1
Doom 3 is practically out
scenic stratus
you could also play the card of parallel universes that are all linked to one hell
umbral mango
Meh, I don't think so
umbral mango
If the Marine of Doom 3 is the equivalent of the classic Doomguy then there's no thing as the Marine of Doom 3 and his travel around the UAC canon for Doom 2016 and Eternal
scenic stratus
i don't know if they'll do it for real i just heard that one a lot out there
umbral mango
To the classic Doom games
amber relic
The most basis I've heard for singular hell is that hell is outside time and space, which is actually not exactly what the codex said about hell, as time wasn't mentioned in that entry
scenic stratus
@umbral mango not if that was two different universes, also doom 2016 is a retell of doom 1 and eternal of doom 2 and yet here we are
scenic stratus
yes
umbral mango
Then why you say Eternal is a retelling of Doom 2 and with that 2016 a retelling of Doom1?
That doesn't make any sense
scenic stratus
because mars and earth have been invaded twice
amber relic
Those are broad plot points
umbral mango
...
Dude.
Do you think that hell only invades one single time and then they retreat?
amber relic
The chronological plotline generally goes 1, 2, 64, Eternal Flashbacks, theoretically 3 (but too loose of a theory to be taken all that much seriously), 2016, Eternal
scenic stratus
that's not the point@umbral mango
umbral mango
There's a huge problem to consider Doom 3 part of the canon
amber relic
They follow similar beats, serpent, but retelling feels like a poor word to use to me
scenic stratus
well they have the same bosses
amber relic
Similar beats
umbral mango
Doom 3 is about a marine of his first day on Mars, that btw hasn't known an invasion until everything gets wrecked up
amber relic
The icon of sin was a general for Satan in DOOM 2, at least perhaps it was
Now it's more of a reality-warping beast with a vague capacity for speech
umbral mango
Doom 1 is about a marine surviving after a demon invasion on Mars
scenic stratus
what if doom 3 was an other dude or an identity he stole?
umbral mango
the MC's btw look pretty different
amber relic
Red, do you know what happens after doom 64?
amber relic
And again, I already stat-oh, I forgot to send that
The theory doesn't rely on doom 2 guy being the same person
Doom3
scenic stratus
i think they'll integrate doom 3, i'm not sure but it smells like it
umbral mango
Okay, just one single thing
amber relic
Do you remember the city under Mars in Eternal?
Doom 3 mentions an underground sort of location that another culture built on mars before moving to earth, if I recall correctly
The people of argenta did exactly that in the reboot continuity
And while it may simply be an Easter egg, the soul cube appears in olivia's office on 2016 and the slayer has it on the fortress in eternal
scenic stratus
again the mythic tablets too
umbral mango
If they are in the same universe, then why there's no thing as protection against demons in Doom 3? why the overall aesthetic looks so different from previous games? if there's a demon invasion, why no one ever talked about a guy defending earth from the demons and killing the Icon of Sin?
Don't mix easter eggs with canon btw
umbral mango
Still doesn't make sense
amber relic
I'm starting to think you dont know what happens after doom 64 if you're still hooked on that bit
umbral mango
Doomguy being in hell by his own choice?
amber relic
There's more to it than just that
umbral mango
And that is?
scenic stratus
@umbral mango a change in art style would not be that huge of an issue if they want to make things cannon
umbral mango
Answer the rest
amber relic
||he hopped timelines/dimensions/universes. the earth and UAC in 2016 and eternal is very different from 1, 2, and 64||
scenic stratus
that was mostly my point
amber relic
ID is vague about how it happened, but its the unanimous takeaway of the entire community that this is what happened
umbral mango
But because time and space in hell are different from what we know
amber relic
Where in particular do you get that specific information from
I'm not refuting it, but I keep hearing people say that hell operates differently in time without much backing
umbral mango
It's more than just art style @scenic stratus they ID would have to explain how Doom 3 is canon if they took Doom 1 as canon
Lore entries from Doom Eternal
amber relic
The codex entry states they are displaced in space, outside of the regular universe
That entry makes no mention towards time
scenic stratus
@umbral mango as i said doom3 guy could be a false identity doomguy used just to enter security without violence, a parallel doomslayer crossing the other slayer's sarcophagus ...
amber relic
I don't know if outside of the regular universe was correct wording on my part
umbral mango
Doomguy after Doom 64 the first thing he did was killing demons, no sleeping, no eating, no drinking anything, accordin to the lore it was 100 years or eons
amber relic
I don't recall what the exact terminology they used was, but it seems to lead people to believe there's a single hell and a single urdak for all the many Mortal timelines/universes/whatever
umbral mango
and Slayer looks 31 at best
umbral mango
@scenic stratus That's just absurd, why would the Doom 3 Marine do that in the first place? there isn't any clues about that
scenic stratus
@umbral mango what do you mean?
umbral mango
the false identity thing
amber relic
Wasn't it stated somewhere in one of the codex's that argent energy had immense healing capabilities
There is the Praetor Suit, supposedly crafted by a demon, which consumes argent energy to sustain the slayer
scenic stratus
@umbral mango Because i'm searching how id would retroactively fit doom 3, not saying it was their plan all along
nah doom 3 is definitely a standalone reboot kinda thing
amber relic
So time fuckery isn't the only option if he got that suit within a few years of entry
scenic stratus
maybe another dimension who knows
@scenic stratus until id would change that, we had similar exchanges about classic doom being canon
amber relic
The biggest discrepancy between 3 and 2016 is actually just how normal the UAC people act like in 3 compared to 2016's cult
umbral mango
But FFS, they even showed the classic helmet
scenic stratus
@amber relic huehuehue
umbral mango
Maybe because is another universe?
scenic stratus
@umbral mango that was when doom 2016 got out, nobody argues that eternal made classic canon
yet id, made it canon
scenic stratus
sry
amber relic
That wasn't what I was meaning
scenic stratus
hard to follow 2 convo
amber relic
I'm saying theres fewer bars between 3 and 2016 than you'd think
Other than argent
Anyways, ID's become really loose with their plot by now anyways, by tying skins and battlemode into canon when they really didn't need to
umbral mango
...
amber relic
You don't know about that?
umbral mango
Even wikipedia says that Doom 3 is Doom 1
amber relic
The floor is made of ceiling
scenic stratus
for now
amber relic
It's perfectly viable as another alternate timeline
scenic stratus
yep
amber relic
The years are fine, the biggest possible issue is argent
amber relic
3 is several years before Hayden even finds the slayer's sarcophagus
amber relic
2016 is 8 months prior to eternal
umbral mango
It simply doesn't add up
amber relic
That's 4 years to clean up your base and institute some nice technophile Satanism :p
amber relic
I would assume its quite obvious that I'm fucking not serious
robust rover
ROE is not...2/3 years after doom 3 ?
umbral mango
Then why you are discussing that Doom 3 is part of the official canon?
amber relic
It can still be another timeline
robust rover
Because
amber relic
It can still be "official" without being even relevant
umbral mango
in another universe but don't mix it or try to connect it to 2016
Because it doesn't make any sense
robust rover
Yeah
Doom 3 Look like a demo
umbral mango
Maybe because both games were made by ID?
robust rover
Of 2016
amber relic
You're not that stupid to think that's what I mean red
umbral mango
maybe because they are part of the same franchise despite not being in the same universe?
Idk, I've seen many people talking about stuff they don't understand
and if you are memeing, Why?
No, seriously, why?
robust rover
we talk about similarities
umbral mango
You find it funny to just say random stuff that doesn't add up? I don't get it man
amber relic
Doom 3 mentions a martian underground city that the inhabitants left for earth
The hell priests left Hebeth, an underground Martian city, to resurrect the Agaddon Hunters on Earth
Those are similarities
Not a whole lot of doom canon takes place in just one universe, there's at least 2, implied to be far more with the unfortunate canonization of skins, and therefore 3 is a reasonable for as an alternate yet very similar timeline, main divergence being how the UAC acts
umbral mango
Do you remember that in Doom 3 you need enough oxygen to be outside, in Mars,right?
umbral mango
That's already a big difference
amber relic
Not sure what you mean
I have a praetor suit probably made by a demon that converts argent energy into health and has impact compensation, to name some interesting functions it has
I also happen to be basically a god
Why would oxygen be an issue?
scenic stratus
Doom 3 as bad as they say
versed estuary
Doom 3 isn’t canon
It’s ancient alien race on mars is different than any of the ones from doom 2016/eternal
Any similarities from 2016/ eternal is purely because id took some ideas and such from 3
3 takes place in some alternate universe/ timeline, that means not canon to the main story
Also you are incredibly wrong about the years
Doom 3 takes place in the year 2145
Doom 2016 project Lazarus manned expedition to hell to retrieve the slayer also takes place 2145
scenic stratus
Hmm so if it was its own game it would've been recievied better
coral solstice
@scenic stratus did you mean "is Doom 3 as bad as they say?" or "Doom 3 is as bad as they-
oh wait, just answered it
versed estuary
Doom 3 wouldn’t have been reviewed well anyway, people were too hell bent on their pixel classics to appreciate doom 3 for what it was
robust rover
And, best hell is doom 3
scenic stratus
A fairly unique take from what I've seen
coral solstice
90% of the Doom fandom has this wild misconception that Doom never had any horror elements in the first place and shouldn't have them at all after that
versed estuary
Oh yeah doom 3 has best looking hell No questions asked
Guaranteed 90% of the people shitting on doom 3 now haven’t even played it
They just want to join the
Doom 3 bad doom 93 good train
scenic stratus
I've always been interested in it
coral solstice
either that or they played BFG Edition/the 2019 port
versed estuary
🤷♂️ rerelease is great
If anything the rerelease is what would make more people enjoy doom 3
robust rover
I enjoyed doom 3 rerelease
versed estuary
1: re release is on every platform. Wayyy more people have access to this than the original
2: $10 and both expansions, massive deal right there
scenic stratus
I've heard that it has the worse shotgun
coral solstice
ROE's SSG makes up for it
versed estuary
The shotgun is hit or miss
robust rover
And very random
scenic stratus
Yeah the bullets are little random with their shots
versed estuary
Also the fact that the rerelease is brighter actually would be better for most people. Some people just don’t like super dark ass games
coral solstice
BFG Edition/the 2019 port had the balls to cut out some really good areas
versed estuary
Look at doom 64. Man try watching any gameplay of it it’s dark as shit. Not even horror dark just can’t see shit dark.
robust rover
This is why i'm Playing Doom 64 with SMAA with better luminosity
versed estuary
Re release has a brightness slider =3
coral solstice
all in all tho I'm glad 2016 and Eternal didn't try to make fun of 3
probably would've made me dislike 2016 even more if they did
versed estuary
Making fun of 3 woulda been pointless. They spent a shitload of time and money On both 3 and scrapped 4. Why would they make fun of themselves
robust rover
And even Doom 2016 has a Easter egg of doom 3
little raven
Isn’t the soul cube in olivia’s office
coral solstice
yeah
little raven
And it’s in the fortress of doom so the slayer must have taken it
versed estuary
It’s only a Easter egg, nothing more nothing less. Just a cool callback to doom 3
Because for 1, the cube goes back to where it came from at the end of doom 3
little raven
I was really set on the soul cube being in eternal I had no ideas about the unmakyr or doom 64 even existing
versed estuary
I pretty much figured out the doom guy connection as soon as I found out doom 64 leaves him in hell
64 leaves him in hell
2016 brings him from helll
Coincidence I think not
robust rover
Even in Doom 2016 you can see it
little raven
He was ripping and tearing then the sentinels picked him up I’m really glad the slayer is doomguy
robust rover
Why there are demonic threat lmao, even if the game say "this is the first time"
And like nobody know Doom Guy, only hell inscription
scenic stratus
yeah modern doom doesnt make fun of 3, hell you can unlock the doom 3 theme in eternal
little raven
It’s one of the best next to bfg division and rip and tear
scenic stratus
a remaster of the theme would make me go nuts
the audio quality kinda sucks, hard to make out instruments
little raven
Too bad doom 3 didn’t have a soundtrack
A cool ambiant horror soundtrack like quake or doom 64 would’ve been amazing
scenic stratus
i love harbinger but it doesnt really have the same feel if you get what i mean.
random pivot
Harbinger references Doom 3 with a couple similar riffs, but it's not a direct remake, no. It's different enough honestly to avoid copyright issues interestingly enough...
the audio quality kinda sucks, hard to make out instruments
@scenic stratus The version of the main theme in Eternal is full quality. FINALLY
robust rover
Icon of sin remastered
scenic stratus
really?
well there's a reason every rerelease has shitty compression. the version in eternal is the "single" version with the girl moaning
its all kinda hard to make out with the slayers fortress noises
i think they had a legal dispute iirc
looks like doom 3 made some broad damage in their contacts for whatever reason
hmm
west tiger
Though it would probably not happen, would a remake of DOOM 3 be a good idea? I’d like to see that
honest lynx
Hows the run going bro
scenic stratus
pretty good, thanks
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cZBLQuUpqrkD81esdOijsP32WBkxW4_r took a doom 3 theme midi, converted it into multiple higher quality samples using different soundfonts and this is the result. not all too great but i made it.
random pivot
That's pretty cool how there are two Helicopter sound effect notes playing back almost simultaneously which give it that comb filtering sound.
As with all MIDI guitars they sound pretty bad though 😉
scenic stratus
i tried like 20 soundfonts and thats the best i could find :(
scenic stratus
any server operators here? it seems doom 3's master servers are unavailalble. wondering if there were any new heartbeat IPs someone may know of
random pivot
i tried like 20 soundfonts and thats the best i could find :(
@scenic stratus It's not your fault. MIDI guitars, no matter the soundfont, don't sound like guitars.
scenic stratus
its just a fact
the whole thing could sound better if i dont use a guitar for the main melody
scenic stratus
doom 3 with doom 2016 track is pretty lit
tiny flume
scenic stratus
if i die of a heart attack, know that i died while playing doom 3
robust rover
The Camera Enemy Spider
echo sparrow
Why is this here. Why doom 3
coral solstice
because it's a Doom game?
scenic stratus
doom 3 is fire
if it werent for the no rudeness rule i would slaughter you where you stand RealCraft
scenic stratus
wouldnt say that personally but it is great
jovial lintel
Anyone have experience with Doom 3 on the Oculus Quest?
versed estuary
I still count doom 3 às a spin off,
Again spin off doesn’t equal bad game.
I only say spin off since it’s not the main storyline,
little raven
Roe is perfect though
robust rover
Yeah
little raven
That super shotgun is 
versed estuary
But actually funny enough, it was shorter than main campaign by like half the time. But it had like 3-4 times the action
If the main campaign had the speed and enemy count of ROE I’m sure it woulda been received better
little raven
And less imps behind doors
Which is easily the worst part about 3
It’s bullshit
Unless you memorized doom 3 it’s almost impossible to not get hit by them
It’s not scary it’s just annoying
versed estuary
You don’t even need to sprint to avoid the imps
Just go to the door diagonally and walk backwards diagonally, they hit the sides and stop
I don’t like having to stop pushing forward at every door hoping to not get hit by an imp tho
versed estuary
Ssg man I liked the look, feel, everything about it
scenic stratus
cabinet 666 was hilarious
little raven
I can’t believe I fell for it
scenic stratus
i did too
robust rover
DIY Ritual
scenic stratus
this channel is never active, its a shame really
little raven
People don’t like 3 as much
scenic stratus
because theyre heretics
scenic stratus
no problem with that, though i prefer the original, most of my bfg edition hate isnt serious
little raven
Bfg edition has vr so you gotta give it that
Which is the only thing that can’t be modded into classic doom 3
versed estuary
No I just mean there are only like 5 of us who use this channel
And odds are we are doing something rn, or just come on to state progress
Or to flock and attack idiots who join here talking shit for no reason
Ye
There is “I don’t like a game”
Then there is coming here purely to say you think the game sucks
If you don’t like it. Why waste your time being here to say that?
I was in a server for another game, this one dude like every day nonstop was talking shît about the game. And I asked him then why does he play it.
He said he hadn’t played it since launch,
It came out 2 years ago
Why waste your time like that
robust rover
Doom 3 is cool, but i don't recommand it at my friend, Because they know only the modern/Doom1/2
marble dune
I bring it up whenever the chance presents itself because Doom 3 is a disgrace to the series name and robbed me of 30 hours of play time
I don't just waltz into places and fling shit though, I'll at least wait for it to be topical.
versed estuary
Then why come back here
If you see 5 people in the street talking about how much they like minecraft. You don’t randomly walk up and say Minecraft is shit.
Better to never join the conversation
The only time you are welcome is if someone asks if doom 3 is worth buying, in which case you must give an unbiased response
🤔
Rerelease of doom 3
$10 for about (average is 9/4/4)
So 17 hours of gameplay.
Plus side, it’s on all platforms now. So accessible
It’s the BFG edition, means hella more ammo. And brighter game/ flashlight on shoulder.
The tons of ammo means you have no worries about ever running out.
Main campaign is “ok” at best, my issue was it takes too long too feel like what it should have been. It takes maybe half of the campaign b4 you have most guns and if become faster paced
marble dune
which also means more plasma rifle spam, which is easily the best part of the game
wrt the ammo count thing in BFG
versed estuary
I still haven’t played TLL so I can’t give a review on that
ROE imo fixed all issues of the main campaign, much faster paced. SSG. More enemies. More action. Only complaint. Only 4 hours. (I beat it in 3 on veteran first run)
Once doom 3 main campaign picked up the paced is when it truly became enjoyable imo.
Oh and not to mention the best hell ever
I am told however That rerelease/ BFG removed a few levels
I like slow exploration, but for a doom game the first 3-4 hours was super slow imo. Very few demons here and there
Most of them were imps behind doors
marble dune
RoE is pretty cool and much better than the base game. Fights are much more frequent and frantic, they re-added the SSG, and it's a good length for an expansion pack.
versed estuary
The biggest plus side of the is it’s $10 for 17 hours give or take. Depending how fast you are.
I did veteran first run with decent exploration.
Now I will say, it’s nowhere near what doom 2016/ eternal are
So if you really really love those and start with those, you are going backwards in terms of gameplay
BUT 3 has its own unique play and style to it that I enjoy
For a game from 2004
I say it aged incredibly well. Nothing felt clunky or out of place.
versed estuary
I’ll play it after my Campaign nightmare run.
I take it nowhere near ROE run?
Like I said, I wish 3 was sold as a spin off with a name. Instead of doom 3.
If that was the case, people would have accepted it more. And it coulda had its own line of games
robust rover
TLL fell more like Doom 3 original
versed estuary
Then again, if we base it off of what doom 4 was going to be. It woulda failed hard
marble dune
just play TLL whenever you're bored. it's only like 2 hours at most.
versed estuary
Doom 4 was going to be cod, not doom
The Lost Levels
The second expansion of doom 3
marble dune
now that he said that it's actually The Lost Mission. TLL is the new Doom 64 level pack
versed estuary
Oh you right I mixed em up
random pivot
I bought D3 when it first came out around the same time I bought Half Life 2. Still have the boxes. (wish they were big boxes though)
I still haven't played Lost Mission. Planned on playing it after I beat D3/ROE again on PS4/Switch
scenic stratus
i liked tlm
scenic stratus
This game sucks
so you have chosen, death
you know i could respect your opinion if you at least explained why you think it sucks.
scenic stratus
Worst doom game lol
robust rover
No
slim willow
People still play Doom 3?
covert frigate
Doom 3 is a masterpiece and one of the most artful and well designed games id has made.
scenic stratus
doom 3 is kinda awesome, just with a different title it would make a great game and possibly a franchise of its own
scenic stratus
Doom 3 is its standalone thing. Sure it shares the same name and hell they even had the balls to call it the third in the franchise. But it’s really not. It stands on its own
coral solstice
@scenic stratus as this server's resident Doom 3 fanboy, you have made a big mistake
slim willow
If Doom 3 wasn't called Doom everybody would have loved it
manic iron
Imagine saying doom 3 is the worst doom game when doom 2 and tnt exist
Not to diss doom 2 too much but its levels mostly suck
Same with tnt
Still fine games i guess
But for the weakest in the series
To be honest tho doom 3 is alot more like half life
Even to the point where in roe had a gravity gun
little raven
Anyone who says that doom 3 is the worst doom game hasn’t played tnt
honest lynx
" Doom 3 sucks" kid who played on recruit and walked through the whole game in 5 hours
Anyone who has played in nightmare will tell you it gets doom classic action real fast. But hey. The kids that hate on doom 3 are usually the ones who arent good enough
honest lynx
You can do it. Once you play through the game a few times. Die. Learn the room patterns. Its honestly amazing good time. Moving around trying to kill everything before you get one shot
little raven
Gotta finish roe in veteran then I’ll do both nightmares
scenic stratus
the thing that kills me is he never explained why he dislikes it, he just did the whole "doom thwee sux haha" and walked away.
honest lynx
We get that at least 3 times a month here
And nah . It's usually kids. Most of the classic players are pretty chill and at least appreciate it played doom 3 when it was out. It's the 2016 kids that complain about it being too slow or spooky and not a real doom game. In my experience
robust rover
I love all Doom games
Doom 2 is bad
honest lynx
Plutionia was a blast though
coral solstice
Doom 2's maps were shit, but not boring shit
little raven
Pick your problems
Doom 3 with more little problems
Or doom 2 with less but bigger problems
I personally picked 3 over 2
versed estuary
I will accept someone not liking the game for a valid reason
Me: don’t like dark soul type games because it’s spam roll and attack every now and then. Not my style of “action”
little raven
Like imp doors
versed estuary
But even then, not liking an entire game for one tiny thing like imp doors is petty
languid lodge
little raven
And I agree with the dark souls thing
Same thing with doom 2 or serious sam I might not like it that much but I respect people who do
versed estuary
I give 2 real reasons For not liking a game .
Either a ton of little things you hate that adds up.
Or one major part that makes a game bad and it’s a huge feature,
All I hate about darksouls is the combat, but thats like the entire game right there
little raven
The chasm alone makes doom 2 a slog
versed estuary
I rate doom 2 as my least favorite doom
versed estuary
I love every doom game.
Doom 2 is much larger levels of doom compared to doom 1.
But bigger isn’t always better
little raven
My rating would be from best to worst
- Eternal
- 2016
- Roe
- Plutonia
- Doom 3
- Ultimate doom
- Thy flesh consumed
- Tnt
versed estuary
I like how you split the dlc into categories of their own
Which makes sense. Since the dlc is vastly different than The main game for tons of these
little raven
And the fact of how much better roe is then base doom 3
Haven’t played lost missions
versed estuary
For me
1: 2016
2: Roe
3: Doom1
4: Doom 3
5: Double impact
6: Doom 2
64 and eternal and Final Doom and Lost missions I haven’t played yet
little raven
Double impact?
versed estuary
I’m counting double impact, because it’s a wad that was added with the re releases of doom 1
little raven
And I forgot about 64 gonna be getting that soon
versed estuary
It’s not an official doom Wad. But it’s in the re release, So I kinda count it as part of the list
Yeah I csnt play 64 until eternal comes to switch
I’m not spending $5 I don’t have just to play 64 a bit early when I get it free with pre order
little raven
Eternal blows 2016 out of the water
restive delta
Lost Missions is good, but nothing crazy. It doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of mechanics
little raven
And I thought plutonia came with the swicth versions
restive delta
But it is at least mostly action and not too much else
little raven
Roe mechanics or base doom 3 mechanics
restive delta
Base, though it does have the double barrel
little raven
That’s cool
restive delta
Well it borrows a few other things from RoE, but it doesn't really play like RoE does since you don't have the artifact
little raven
Does it have the gravity gun
restive delta
It does
versed estuary
Plutonia does come with re releases on switch
little raven
How come you haven’t played it yet
versed estuary
Civvie describes it as artificial difficulty
versed estuary
You shove 50 hitscam chaingunners in a room and an archvile behind and say it’s “ hard”
little raven
Like I said it’s a ball buster
versed estuary
I’ll do it eventually
Gotta beat doom 3 nightmare campaign and lost missions first
little raven
If you learn it’s tricks and bullshit It becomes more palpable
Never thought I use that word ever
versed estuary
I just want eternal ;-;
little raven
It will be worth the wait
versed estuary
I don’t doubt that. I’ve replayed 2016 16 times, my favorite FPS of all time
And I’m told eternal makes 2016 look lame. So I can’t wait
little raven
The first level is 2016 but more
versed estuary
The master levels alone make me happy. Replaying early levels in 2016 had no point. It was slow and not hard. But now you can replay Levels with harder enemies, and that sounds lit
versed estuary
It’d say the last 4-5 levels of 2016 are the only ones worth replaying
B4 that it’s too slow/ easy
little raven
New master level is coming out soon too
versed estuary
Well switch most likely starts as the barebones I’d imagine
Series one. On cultist base and that other master level. Etc
little raven
Master levels are pretty difficult
versed estuary
They better be
little raven
And no more rune trials
versed estuary
Love that part
And I’m running and gunning and
Lemme shoot 30 barrels with a pistol real quick
little raven
Definitely play on UV first time through
versed estuary
I’m going straight to nightmare
little raven
Nightmare is super ridiculous
versed estuary
I’ve only played 2016 on nightmare and it’s easy for the most part
little raven
Zombies do 45 damage with one hit on nightmare
versed estuary
Funny enough, when I did the no ammo upgrade nightmare run, I found it the easiest I’ve played nightmare
honest lynx
Its actually pretty easy to avoid getting hit on nightmare if you move fast enough and deal with the demons quickly
versed estuary
Imp fireballs do 75 and possessed do 60 per whack in 2016. I’ll be fine
little raven
Just warning you
versed estuary
Oh I know what I getting myself into. But I wouldn’t have it any other way
little raven
You can turn up the difficulty form UV to nightmare during the campaign
I’d get used to the dash before doing nightmare
versed estuary
Nightmare or bust, I’ll be fine
little raven
Have fun
versed estuary
Gotta send in my joycons to get replaced tho, all this time I’ve been playing with drifting cons
little raven
You might wanna get a pro controller
versed estuary
Switch
Handheld
No gyro
Drifting joycons
I bought a switch for handheld play. If I wanted to play on a tv I woulda bought an Xbox
little raven
I stupidly entered my correct age so I can’t get the re realeses on switch yet
versed estuary
LOLOL I forgot nintendo made a restriction
little raven
Kinda funny doom quickly became one of my favorite game franchises and it started from the 2005 doom movie
versed estuary
I started with 1-2
Played 2016
Then got 3
Gotta say 3 does NOT feel or look like a game that’s 16 years old
little raven
The day after I watched a review of the doom movie Which said how great the games were I went to my cousin’s house who showed me 2016
versed estuary
I still cant believe every doom is on switch
Let alone 2016 and soon eternal
versed estuary
Every “real doom”
little raven
I have heard good things about doom rpg too bad you can’t play it anymore
honest lynx
Doom 3 has just always been one of those games I just play a couple times a year.
robust rover
Yeah, Every doom on Switch, and it worked perfectly
Doom 3 on switch is pretty sure a better experience than other console
jovial lintel
any doom 3 mods worth checking out?
coral solstice
Phobos
covert frigate
https://twitter.com/bad_attitude_en/status/1242188739411140609?s=21
A few weeks ago I wrote here why I think Doom 3 is a masterpiece and was the faithful and very on-brand reinvention of classic Doom for the 2000s.
honest lynx
So doom 3 was supposed to have some stealth options and death animations. Pretty cool
random pivot
Kind of like Wolfenstein 3D lol
scenic stratus
Yeah you can see it in the pre release gameplay very interesting
I think I’m going to do a VR only playthrough of Doom 3 eventually
scenic stratus
yeah stealth options would not have worked well with me because Doom has always been about a silent badass protagonist the DEMONS themselves hide from and not the other way around
yeah Doom 3 is different where you're just a random marine caught in the wrong place at the wrong time but still... I'm glad it wasn't in the game
i wouldnt be against having some stealth, but turning it into a huge gameplay feature is a no for me too
charred fox
Technically every classic doom game is “man gets stuck in the wrong place, is angry”. Newdoom stuff is an escalation of that
little raven
I think doom 3 guy is just midly annoyed
scenic stratus
I just like how he brushes off everything... everyone is being killed or tortured around him, organs everywhere. The only thing that got to him was the Cyberdemon where he mouths the word fuck
well the cyberdemon looks to be about 30 feet tall
I wonder if there were ever multiple Cyberdemons or just that one because didn't the tablets say he was defeated before by the Hero
or am I not remembering correctly
same, dont really remember either
little raven
He said fuck because he walked under the cyberdemon’s crotch
charred fox
Fuck
amber relic
"You upskirt the cyberdemon"
honest lynx
Are there any other bi tch ass cyberdemons that get destroyed in 5 minutes by a tired random marine .. maybe..
versed estuary
Goes through hell
Sees massive ass Cyberdemon
LETS DO THIS
And it’s not even a fight
That was probably the most disappointing part of dooom 3 tbh
marble dune
making the cyberdemon fight anything more complex than "shoot it until it dies" is unwelcome
charred fox
Shoot everything around the cyberdemon until it dies
little raven
Chuck a spiking box at the cyberdemon until it dies
honest lynx
Multiplayer was actually pretty fun and fast paced
manic iron
yeah doom 3 multiplayer was pretty fun
a shame the console rerelease doesn't include it
versed estuary
Ngl I never even knew it had multiplayer
Multiplayer on rereleases requires servers and other things, would increase the prices of the games
$10 is a steal of a price
versed estuary
Never played quake
manic iron
quake is a messy but fun series of games
quake 1 and 2 are only connected in name
and quake 3 is a multiplayer only game
quake 4 continues off of quake 2 and is more like doom 3
and then there was a weird battlefield quake game
and then quake champions
versed estuary
Lotta quakes I c
manic iron
yeah
but honestly new doom games are alot like quake
which makes scenes cause quake 1 and 2 are an evolution of doom in proper 3d
charred fox
Yeah newdoom feels super quakey with the fast weapon switching and jumping around arenas
little raven
Quake 1 is a hogwash of sprta cool things
scenic stratus
i like q1's artstyle and theme a lot, but i could never get into the gameplay, it just felt too slow in some areas and too fast in others, maybe i have to play it again its been a while.
scenic stratus
more ammo, the flashlight is always on. a lot of things to make it easier i guess
but i mean it has remastered graphics and stuff a lil bit
manic iron
Remastered graphics which doesn't change much other then fucking with the lighting and uping some textures
I don't recommend the bfg edition
If you want the flash light on your armour use a mod for og doom 3
And of course og doom 3 has mod support so that's the biggest reason its better then thr bfg edition
scenic stratus
yeah pretty much
faint snow
When you get og Doom 3, you will required a source port to get fullscreen resolution setting. Beside that, it is playable. The gameplay is more focus on survival horror theme, slower action compares to other doom game. You can't use flashlight and weapons at the same time which really annoying for me to aim and shoot enemies on dark area. You can also install a lot of mods like maps, HD graphics, new weapons, etc...
Doom 3 BFG edition can allow you to use flashlight and weapons at the same times, the action is faster than og Doom 3. Some graphic improvements can be seen like HD textures and lighting, resolution support. However, you can't install mods (or you can?)
fervent crest
I got the bfg edition and overall it feel less of a survival horror game which is what doom 3 is meant to be, you got practically enough ammo to take out an entire battalion and the game is so bright it no longer has the ominous atmosphere behind it. Being able to use the flashlight with your gun out destroys the point of the flashlight in the first place which was meant to disarm you for the sake of visibility sacrificing your ability to partake in combat and further putting you on edge in case someone or something jumps out at you that you're not ready for.
overall the BFG edition is just easier and it does have the added benefit of being more available than og doom 3 is, as well as having an increased refresh rate
coral solstice
don't fix (or try to fix) what ain't fucking broken (for the most part)
fervent crest
personally I don't consider the lost mission an added benefit since the storyline of that is literally just a portion of the campaign redone with a new character, but your objective is the exact same and even the voice lines of this new scientist are practically the exact same word for word script of the other scientist in the main campaign, as well as the final boss just being recycled from Doom 3
the only thing noteworthy from the lost mission was the 30 second or so boat ride down the lava river through hell
and also, I've said these points like a dozen times before here
manic iron
funny thing is tho
og doom 3 has plenty of ammo if you look
except chaingun ammo, not a lot of that early game
bfg edition has way more ammo then it needs
scenic stratus
yeah but you can always balance the ammo part out by playing Veteran or Nightmare... also, you can always choose not to get some pickups
but considering how hard it is to get chaingun ammo in the game maybe the extra ammo was a blessing
scenic stratus
The cool thing about og Doom 3 is that if you're smart with things by looking for pdas, reading emails and listening to audio, you can rack up a ton of ammo from lockers and cabinets. Those who don't will still have enough ammo, but there is less of it to spare. The only thing I prefer about the BFG edition is the martian buddy codes in the emails (the martian buddy website is dead sadly).
In BFG edition you can follow the normal path without ever exploring and still have plenty of ammo, it also defeats the purpose of exploring when you find ammo and all your guns are maxed out all the time.
marble dune
I have 180 shells in RoE right now 
little raven
Ssg time
scenic stratus
BFG ed had multiplayer but the netcode was kinda awful
honest lynx
I never had any issues with the multiplayer. Nothing crazy anyways. It was a pretty fun time
@scenic stratus the real original was going to have stealth as well and scavenging. Places where you run into hell knights with almost no ammo where you would basically have to escape a whole area
scenic stratus
@honest lynx i managed to find a few matches years ago and it was fun. Low ping was a bit worse than with some other games tho
it was on ps3
honest lynx
Back in 2004 when it was released it was mint... although it could have been my child imagination
@scenic stratus you need to go into the laser tunnel .. open the hatch from the building near the laser
You can only go into the tunnel when the laser shuts off for a bit.
Its dead now
versed estuary
Like the Cyberdemon
Final boss
Such a shit fight
Honestly, worst boss fight I’ve ever played, and I’ve played many games
scenic stratus
@versed estuary why spoil it to him?
versed estuary
Hmmm, won’t lie that wasn’t my Intention
The entire game has a few boss fights
Cyber is the last one of the main campaign
scenic stratus
they should have made the portal unleash multiple demons at once so you could switch from soul cube to BFG repeatedly to add to the tension
eventually you would get those 5 kills for recharge
I mean it's not like you'll ever use the BFG much in the game anyways outside of the Hell Knights
honest lynx
They should have made the final boss fight 50 commandos bum rushing you
scenic stratus
almost everyone who finishes it enjoys it, good job.
versed estuary
^
versed estuary
Hell
little raven
I like a lot of 3 but it blends together a lot except for hell
scenic stratus
on og doom 3 you cant use a flashlight in the hell level
little raven
Hell is easily the best level
honest lynx
Your soul will burn in hell forever !!!! Muhahahah
versed estuary
Forever,
Or about 15 min you take your pick
little raven
We will bring this hell to earth
prime niche
Hell on earth
versed estuary
Earth on hell 🤔
scenic stratus
hmm
umbral mango
My take for the best Doom 3 levels are Hell and Primary excavation site
proper tusk
Earth on hell 🤔
how the turn tables
hidden beacon
sup, im new here
i just join doom discord
i played doom 3 10 times. it never gets bored
little raven
You better have played roe then
hidden beacon
of course
little raven
Ok you are now officially welcomed
hidden beacon
nice 👍
little raven
It’s good to have another doom 3 fan there’s only like 7 guys in this chat
hidden beacon
wow
hidden beacon
yeah
scenic stratus
@hidden beacon Welcome to the dungeon, marine.
scenic stratus
Most unexciting place on Mars
crisp glen
im.too soft for doom 3 it looks too scary
random pivot
I remember when I first bought it eventually I had to turn on God mode when it got too scary especially during hell just so I could get through it. I was younger then...
My dad us3d to laugh at me for that haha
hidden beacon
i hate the tridents, aka those big spiders. their so annoying
scenic stratus
try dealing with them on nightmare
marble dune
I hate them because of arachnophobia. scariest part of the entire game for me. especially when ||that one jumps out at you after looking at a monitor or w/e it is in (I think) one of the central processing levels||
robust rover
[I hate this spider]
honest lynx
I always thought the spiders were called trites?
marble dune
you're both correct
little raven
They both suck
little raven
Being swarmed by endless amounts of tiny enemies that never stop spawning is the worst part about doom 3
scenic stratus
one of my favorite parts of Doom 3 I've seen nobody really talk about is how there's like a wave attack of multiple Imps and if you kill them all, you get a bunch of ammo (Alpha Labs sector 4)
it's like right about where the choice of the bridge or ER is
gives it a little extra charm to the game
little raven
You can do that without opening the bridge?
scenic stratus
...you need to extend the bridge to drop down the pipes, otherwise you'll die from fall
if you try to jump without it
honest lynx
Apparently doom marine has very weak knees. Basically any height will kill you
versed estuary
To be fair is a normal human carrying like 9 guns and like 18 grenades and so much rocket ammo
honest lynx
I always pictured the weapons as being foldable or something like that hahahah well I guess you can fold or shrink a chainsaw
dire crystal
Anyone wish Doom 3 had a turbo monster mode, when everyone is hyper aggressive like in classic Doom?
scenic stratus
A Doom game with classic gameplay and doom 3 looks would be bananas
coral solstice
I'd like to see a Doom spinoff or something with truly disturbing designs like I've seen on DA before
versed estuary
Hyper aggressive and classic doom doesn’t exactly mix
scenic stratus
It's subjective tho, to some it's super aggressive
versed estuary
Wel yeah subjective.
I find classic doom to be rather tame
dire crystal
Even on nightmare difficulty? That’s when the monsters go to their turbo mode
dire crystal
Not exactly, in the original doom they also moved faster and shot more frequently, this was removed from bfg edition versions of doom and doom 2
charred fox
Original doom is pretty much as fast as you want to play it
I’ve seen someone play the entire game by just walking
Then again I think 2 definitely puts more pressure on you
robust rover
The sewer level is so bad that i don't remember it
little raven
No it was awesome
In roe
With all the mancubus and babies
And the sound was all cool
little raven
Dude roe is amazing
robust rover
Yeah
little raven
They had a battle on the surface that didn’t suck
robust rover
Roe is definitly better
little raven
And a lot of chaingun ammo
Yaaaaaay
Note
Don’t take on a guy with a wrench in a fist fight
little raven
Is the chainsaw in roe
robust rover
Apparently the Grab gun was made Before grav gun
No
honest lynx
Did you just correct yourself? Hahah
honest lynx
Oh yeah on nightmare a light breeze shatters your legs
hidden beacon
Yes! True
scenic stratus
a light poke from an imp and you'll be loading your save file again
paper ermine
Should we start a petition to get a Doom 3 Marine skin for Battlemode in Doom Eternal?
scenic stratus
we should, doubt it would get far though
paper ermine
There's only one way to find out
scenic stratus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516124384050544641/707094692289970216/20200504_220043.jpg also dont think i shared this, my favorite game thing even though its not in the greatest condition.
random pivot
Doom 3 skin would be sweet. We also need Doom 3 Revenant and Mancubus Skins
scenic stratus
Sadly, since Doom 3 is the most hated of the franchise, I doubt we'll see them.
boreal adder
Doom 3's not that hated. The haters that there were just made sure to give it a reputation
there're plenty of doom 3 lovers around here
scenic stratus
no, a lot of people hate this game wether you want to believe it or not, a lot of people love it too, im one of those who loves it and it hurts me to see the amount of people say that its not a doom game.
boreal adder
well, maybe it's luck... I feel like I've found more people who liked it or at least found the fun in it, and a loud group of people who hate it... that group's still large but not as large
I think I said once before what I think the problem is, is that it's an action game tricking you into thinking it wants you to think it's a horror game
like double reverse psychology
enjoying it hinges on figuring out that it wants you to figure it out
otherwise it's a horror game that's not particularly scary
scenic stratus
I feel like most of the hate came from classic Doom puritists that don't like change
Going for a more horror-like atmosphere? Bad.
Having everything slow paced to build up the tension? Bad.
and the "Doom 3 isn't a Doom game" claim is just annoying to hear all the time
We have Doom Marine, the UAC, hordes of demons, arsenal of amazing weapons, Hell... how is it not Doom
it was a darker reboot that was trying to take a more horror approach and play similar to the classic games
it never deserved the hate it got and it still doesn't
boreal adder
Doom 1 has plenty of dark spaces and jumpscares
but honestly, I love Doom 3, and whether it's Doom or not is irrelevant. So they can go ahead and say that if they wanna
scenic stratus
exactly the funny thing is when people complain Doom 3 is too dark but in Doom 1/2 there were dark halls in almost every level with NO light source
boreal adder
I mean, I like the game for the same reasons that others complain, so I can't say much there
lately I've got the impression that my R/L low-light vision might be better than average though. Don't know enough to say exactly how that would translate to a game but it might explain how I can enjoy the dark
scenic stratus
it had monsters, it had guns, and it was metal... just not as much as the installments before it. Remember, it was going for a more horror-like (and almost realistic) take on the Doom formula
can't be fast paced and OP when you're trying to build up a creepy atmosphere
boreal adder
oh I think Doom 3 still has you pretty overpowered...
scenic stratus
I felt the classic games were really fast paced... OP was the wrong choice of words considering he's still just a normal guy
yeah we need a new Doom game in the style Doom 3 had... sad part is we almost got it with Nekravol levels
too bad both levels were short and it wasn't really all out there like Doom 3 and RoE's Hell
it was great but it just didn't click the way that game did it
boreal adder
anyhoo I think I've really got to go sleep now
scenic stratus
gn
boreal adder
goodnight darkbeings
scenic stratus
everything is a lot faster than 2016, playing the game will make every Doom game feel a lot slower
which is bad for me because Doom 3 was already slow to start with XD
I've played all the games on PS4, I love all of them and respect what each one was going for
I'm still trying to complete 64
I don't have one :(
a mix of 3's atmosphere and eternal's gameplay wod make me happy.
that would literally be a perfect Doom game
I mean you make it fast paced and powerful like the modern games BUT the level design and the atmosphere is creepy and insane to fight in... regardless of how powerful the character is, the game can still be terrifying if done in the 3/Eternal balance
just like how Doom 3 did great with that horror/action balance... you just have to focus
no it was good because of the horror atmosphere and how well they set up the encounters with how dark the hallways were, the crying baby demons, even Hell itself
I don't think pacing would have changed it that drastically
but the slow pacing in that game made it better
I mean it could have happened and still COULD happen but the way people bashed iD for making it slow paced horror, I wouldn't fault them for never wanting to trying that again
boreal adder
I did play a game a bit like that with a dark atmosphere and a faster pace to the action a few years ago
wasn't a groundpounder though
coral solstice
I'm glad neither 2016 nor Eternal made snarky jabs against Doom 3 like some franchises tended to do towards their not so well received entries
boreal adder
yeah that woulda been painful to see
scenic stratus
that would have genuinely ruined some of the love I had for Eternal, people just need to learn every installment is special in some way and need to respect that there are actual people that worked hard on the game they constantly shit on
honest lynx
Eternal with commandos. That would be dope. I'd love to see those turds get glory killed
Just grab their rubber dick arms and swing them around
scenic stratus
You see, I can respect people who dislike Doom 3, it is quite different. What I cannot respect are people who either play 30 minutes and say "it sucks" and the people who hate it and don't give a reason why, I can respect someone who can give a logical reason, I even accept the "it's too slow for me" statement because everyone has a right to an opinion. It's the ignorance that really gets to me.
little raven
I love the commanders they give you that beautiful chaingun ammo
scenic stratus
chaingun commandos do
little raven
This game has easily my favorite chaingun
scenic stratus
The only weapons from 3 that suck are the rocket launcher and the shotgun, the rest of the arsenel is really good.
I don't know why people hate on these weapons, I agree the chaingun is super fun.
marble dune
The chaingun is...fine, it never really stood out to me (good or bad). The plasma rifle is awesome from top to bottom and I like the sound of the machine gun a lot. Everything else I really dislike.
little raven
The only argument against the chaingun is the lack of ammo
honest lynx
Yeah the plasma gun is definitely the best weapon... just melts demons and it's a must in nightmare mode
little raven
And roe has one of the best ssgs
dire crystal
Doom 3 Plasma is probably the most OP of all id games plasmaguns. Not only does it deal more damage that Chaingun, but also it easily blocks Revenant’s and Mancubus’ projectiles, making them mostly harmless
little raven
The fact you can shoot down projectiles makes a lot of demons a joke
honest lynx
Well the plasma gun is definitely over powered in the bfg edition because there is ammo all over the place. But in og... the ammo is scarce for it and you bust it out in dire situations which balances it out pretty well
scenic stratus
Good, it's finally balanced after the first half
little raven
Ammo is scarce for the plasma in og doom 3?
@honest lynx did you even play the game
I was drowning in plasma cells
versed estuary
Not scarce, but in BFG you can almost legit use plasma gun until U beat the game and never switch guns
amber relic
i somehow ran out of ammo for my plasma gun at the first mancubi
fluid seal
Man, the impact is TOTALLY there on the Doom 3 shotgun, but that spread is unfortunate
And it's incredibly sad when it has ALL the punch
honest lynx
@little raven exactly. And yes I have . Probably more than you ever have
You cant just walk around blasting the plasma rifle like you can in the bfg edition
You still need to conserve
versed estuary
^
fluid seal
I'm fine with not using the Plasma Gun all the time
I just wish I didn't have to use the shotgun all the time
Edited spread on that thing fixes most of Doom 3's issues IMO
honest lynx
Yeah unless you're a z sec with a sniper shotgun with auto fire option
silent zephyr
I like the Cyber Ugly Monster-like Look of D3's Pinky Demon
scenic stratus
i like the idea, i dont like the demon they chose to use that idea with
scenic stratus
its not even pink
versed estuary
I call it fugly
scenic stratus
its like a success story the doctors had with a genetically messed up bear
"when we found this poor creature, we just had to help him. he now has bionic legs, his skin no longer gets damaged, although he wont grow an hair, and we grafted thermal sensors so that it can get along without eyes, ears or nose. To make sure it wouldnt get picked on by the other bears, we replaced its mouth with one of our own design."
dire crystal
Pinky is cool, he was terrifying in alpha and in retail Doom 3 he is just a misunderstood cutie, who struggles to walk. I want a plushie pinky toy
scenic stratus
tidal radish
who knows super turbo turkey puncher 3
scenic stratus
everyone.gif
faint snow
https://imgur.com/a/r6W6GLY Most of Doom games has their own art box except this. When will it received an official full cover one?
https://imgur.com/a/1UWHjp3 The background and logo can be simple like this
random pivot
You can replace the image with your own scan of the actual box.
honest lynx
That demon dragon talks alot of shit
warm dew
Do someone in the world still play at multiplayer in Doom 3 ?
honest lynx
No one knows for sure... but I intend to find out !
warm dew
Cuz i got it and i like to play it in solo but it might be fun in multi
honest lynx
The multiplayer is basically dead
warm dew
Oh sad...
little raven
I saw something on the steam page about downloading bots
warm dew
I don't get it on steam... 
little raven
Well you could still download bots from the russians
warm dew
scenic stratus
me when american bots
me when russian bots 
hidden beacon
What’s the best mods to use on doom 3 on pc?
scenic stratus
Sikkmod, options to tweak gameplay (believe there is an alpha sounds option, havent used it in a while though). And new high quality lighting effects.
Classic Doom 3, this ones just good.
Lost Mission mod, adds BFG Edition's exclusive campaign to vanilla Doom 3.
Not much of a mod user so this is all I got.
honest lynx
Theres a mod that makes all the imps AI based on cheeses actually play skill
It's called super nightmare
hidden beacon
I got classic doom 3 mod. I also got perfected doom 3 mod, the problem in having with that is that my flashlight won’t turn on
honest lynx
Let the imps be your flashlight
dire crystal
Speaking of mods:
Last man standing
Open Coop
Classic Doom 3
In Hell
Fragging Free
Phobos
neat latch
Is doom 3 worth the pay? I know it’s like 9 dollars and rn it’s on sale for 6 in PS4 but I was thinking g of buying it because I’m bored and because I want the extra doom eternal skins too and the border and icon
regal dune
What platform do you use
neat latch
PS4
little raven
Don’t get it on ps4 the bfg edition is bad
dire crystal
Doom 3 is much closer to Dead Space, Alien Isolation and recent Prey, than to Doom Eternal. If you like these games, you’ll like Doom 3.
Also Doom 3 ps4 is best to experience with minimal in-game brightness, max FoV, and in the dark.
hidden beacon
The 2004 port is much better than the crappy BFG Edition port
Plus you can wack zombies with your flashlight which is awesome!
If you have a pc, get it on steam, you can get doom 3 for 4.99
Plus ROE is 2.99
scenic stratus
@neat latch if you are able to buy the original pc version, do it. if not, buy the ps4 version.
random pivot
Original PC version is still on Steam right now
scenic stratus
yeah what everyone else said, I only got BFG edition because I'm a PS4 player
if it wasn't for that, I definitely would have gotten the original... they literally cut the Hell arena from RoE like... why that looked amazing to battle in
scenic stratus
no it was part of the single player campaign near the end of the Hell level for RoE, it was a green misty island and it kept spamming Mancubi and Hell Knights
they couldve fixed the bfg edition for the rerelease buuuut they didnt
versed estuary
Why would they, easy money
scenic stratus
yep, but it still makes me mad
I enjoy it but it would have been a lot better no doubt... but it is what it is
hidden beacon
The best graphics for doom3 is perfected doom 3
It’s darker and brighter the same time
It’s a must own mod
scenic stratus
i just like the original lighting
dire crystal
Doom 3 lighting is weird withour hdr/tone mapping, everything is pitch black, but then one light is shiny and all the textures go to overbright
random pivot
Best they could do in 2004. I was just freaking out that there could be dynamic lights like that.
scenic stratus
you know it was ahead of it's time when 16 years later, it looks pretty great
honest lynx
Bethesda released doom 3 main theme cover... which means the hidden doom 3 theme got some love ..
Today's a good day
coral solstice
oh shit, link?
random pivot
Man those aren't even the best ones. Some of those were amazing. These, less so. I hope they release more
Man that's like $130 CAD with shipping. Not paying that much for these designs. Pretty cool that they're making them though.
hidden beacon
It will be cool if they have a record inside it.
little raven
Wait these aren’t vinals
random pivot
No, just art prints
little raven
Damn
hidden beacon
ikr
scenic stratus
and the figurines are like 30 dollara and are limited AND are 3 inches tall right? bethesda really dissapointed me.
little raven
I just want a good quality doom hunter toy
honest lynx
Man I just want some demons
I have like 5 slayers already
Give me a hellknight or something that isnt a duck
I'd pay for that
random pivot
A duck? lol wut
honest lynx
They released eternal demons and the slayer in the shape of rubber duckies
I have all the slayers except the duck version. But I'd kill for a baron or a hell knight.
little raven
I want that now
random pivot
I had no idea
honest lynx
I'd have to hide it from my dog. He would f that up so fast
hot cosmos
little raven
Ok so I just killed the second hunter and it said beserk in the screen with the heart icon
So do I get beserk while the heart is active
Never mind it does
Which is really cool
Man roe is so good
little raven
Only 5 more levels
scenic stratus
roe is too short. its a good length for an expansion pack but its so good i need more
little raven
Is the hell level just the boss fight or is there a level first
scenic stratus
Hell level is pretty much kinda like the one from Doom 3 in terms of length but it's a lot more chaotic and bizarre
they even had a Hell arena where you fought Hell Knights and other demons but that was cut from BFG edition for... reasons
little raven
And at the end is the boss
scenic stratus
mhm
little raven
Is it a good boss
scenic stratus
yeah it's actually a boss fight that isn't underwhelming
little raven
Yaaaay
scenic stratus
you have to use the Artifact and everything in your weaponry that's all I'm gonna say
scenic stratus
yeah RoE is a lot more fast paced and the boss fights are actually pretty great
little raven
Also the heart is more then a portable health pack
If the guy from base doom 3 is the doom marine
Then the guy from roe is the doom army man
scenic stratus
yeah I liked the soul cube from a story perspective but gameplay wise... it was just not really thought out. Also, that alien subplot was just insanely stupid... the RoE artifact made more sense
little raven
What about aliens
scenic stratus
alright so apparently there was an initial invasion the demons did on Mars and ||the aliens had to sacrifice themselves to make the soul cube and they fled to Earth since Mars was not really safe for them anymore and it's heavily implied that aliens are a descentant of humans||
scenic stratus
I kid you not... they also said ||that demons wanted Mars back because it's heavily implied they were there before aliens|| that just made me stop paying attention to the subplot
scenic stratus
doom 3 story is weird and not needed
faint snow
Tetris
coral solstice
@scenic stratus from what I remember, it's actually that the humans descended from the aliens and it was Earth that was former demon property
elder condor
Ok this is cool
slayer ducky
little raven
Roe has a good story
random pivot
Doom 3 story is great
honest lynx
With a few tweaks doom 3 could have fit into the storyline for sure. The UAC facility looks more primitive as well. Adjustments to a few things as well as the actual time period could have fit it right in
scenic stratus
true
honest tangle
Anyone knows if there is a coop mod for doom 3? To play with hamachi or something like that
scenic stratus
there is, i believe its called doom 3 open coop
boreal adder
sorry, pressed enter by mistake there
scenic stratus
XD it's fine mistakes happen
But anyways by that time, I was so bored with the alien subplot I literally stopped caring
boreal adder
from what I remember, it's actually that the humans descended from the aliens and it was Earth that was former demon property
yeah, but that's a bit ridiculous in itself... how does Doom 3 purport to explain animals like gorillas and chimps which are clearly similar to humans?
did they come from mars too?
but Doom 3's story is not a good story, or a serious story... I think it does a decent job at being a fun story, but that's about it
scenic stratus
iD probably felt obligated to try and explain why the demons wanted to invade earth so bad since it was never touched upon in the classic games
and probably just added aliens because Mars setting
all I can say about that subplot and the soul cube... there was an attempt and at least they tried
still a fun Doom game don't get me wrong
honest lynx
Very vague uac theory as well. There was an attempt though. All that you need to know is demons are coming through portals from hell and you need to shut that plan down.
boreal adder
yeah, Doom 3 is one of my favourite games... but I wouldn't really defend the story 😄
the story's not why I like it
well...
except for Betruger's maniacal laughter
I like that bit
manic iron
I mean the story is dumb
Its like Pacific rim dumb
But it could work, remember how the sentinals had a city on mars
You could connect doom 3 a bit and say the aliens where the sentinels in doom 3
random pivot
So the Sentinels sacrificed themselves into a Soul Cube?.....Which ended up on the Slayer's computer desk in the Fortress of Doom? 😆
manic iron
Well
Yeah see its a bit jank to connect doom 3 lol
But it could be possible given enough retcons to that gameb
Could be in its own timeline/dimension but thats kinda lazy
random pivot
I like the story, personally. I mean, for a Doom story it's pretty good
random pivot
It's great. Doom wasn't the first sci-fi story to surmise that human life came from Mars first.
manic iron
But i do think doom 3 takes inspiration from half life a bit too much at times
random pivot
Maybe that's why I don't have a problem with it. I love Half-Life. More than Doom
manic iron
Fair enough lol
What i mean tho is like
Some of the parts i see in doom 3 feel soooo much like half life
Like i remember a part in doom 3 where the scientists try to escape through a vent
And then their body parts come flying out
Thats the kinda shit you would see in half life 1 lol
random pivot
Yeah hehe. Actually when I first played Doom 3 when it came out I was trying to look into making a custom level myself that replicated the Resonance Cascade from HL1 but with a demon invasion instead. Unfortunately, I discovered there wasn't really any easy way to make levels for Doom 3. As opposed to Worldcraft/Hammer for HL, that is
manic iron
You might have better luck now
Since doom 3 has source port stuff
And og doom 3 has mod support
fluid seal
dhewm3 just isn't compatible with any mod, is it?
winged anvil
BFG Edition rocks!
coral solstice
the 2004 version rocks even more
versed estuary
Both versions are great for their own reasons
2004 for its authenticity and completion
BFG for its availability to more people
dire crystal
BFG is also good for VR
But the original has mods and maps. And some of them a better than the retail campaign
random pivot
Do maps made with 2004 work with BFG? Or did they literally turn everything customizable off for BFG?
restive delta
Not actually sure. But I feel like people talked about BFG not having mods, so maybe not
honest lynx
I enjoy og and bfg. I dont see why you would want to limit yourself with just one way to play doom 3
random pivot
Man, that's so unlike classic id. It's a shame.
I believe BFG was the first id game to not have its source released, correct? Last one was Rage? Was Rage SC ever released?
Oh wait no, BFG's source code IS released
Why the heck hasn't anyone taken advantage of this yet then? Does it not include everything?
Looks like Rage's was never released.
coral solstice
I don't really get the whole "it's not Doom bullshit" because 3 radically changed the standard Doom formula
I oughta note that Super Mario 64 radically changed the standard Mario formula, yet it was praised instead of loathed
"standard Mario formula" being a 2D sidescroller instead of a 3D platformer
devout pier
I oughta note that Super Mario 64 radically changed the standard Mario formula, yet it was praised instead of loathed
@coral solstice If it's done by nintendo then it's fine, if it done by anyone else is utter betrayal and heresy
@random pivot There is my source port DOOM BFA which improve various things for all games + it has support for it's own SDK (game.dll) https://www.moddb.com/mods/classic-rbdoom-3-bfg-edition
honest lynx
@coral solstice the sad thing is ID basically turned it's back on doom 3 as well.
random pivot
@devout pier Doom 3 was done by id though. Same guys. Thing is, Doom 64 was done by Midway and many people love it
Also, I did some searching since I posted and did find your source port and nabbed it. Nice work!
untold imp
@coral solstice the sad thing is ID basically turned it's back on doom 3 as well.
@honest lynx I personally think since ID isn't the same since 1993 anymore, the game is different and hence why it wasn't really praised
I like it though
Except those CHERUBS
versed estuary
Doom 3 won’t ever be brought back most likely
Unless the next doom game is super successful too and they make
(And they have to make sure they are clear)
A spin off doom game that’s like doom 3 but a little faster. Still dark af but more demons
untold imp
Aight but they gotta fix the shotgun asap or else I ain't happy
versed estuary
A horror doom could totally work, but it needs to be a tad bit faster than what we currently have, close hallways darkness works. But the game has to start out fast too.
Only real complaint about doom 3 campaign was it took wayy too long to truly feel like doom speed and action wise. Took forever to pick up the pace