You also have to kill the same guy again if you want the pda achievement.
Hes got it rough
#doom-3
honest lynx
scenic stratus
I mean the game gave me the option how am I not going to kill him
I mean if the game gives me an option to kill an innocent person I will take that option immediately
scenic stratus
I mean earlier in the game after talking to that technician in the vents I wanted to test if I could kill NPC's that weren't enemies I backed up fired my shotgun and blew his head off I couldn't stop laughing for 5 minutes
it was just so funny to me that they would allow you to kill friendly NPCs with no repercussions
honest lynx
They actually reward you for it .. only way to get the pda achievement is to execute some of them
scenic stratus
like I don't think they let you kill friendly NPCs in the newer game's
versed estuary
Lmfao moose
That’s like the most real video game thing I’ve ever read
If they give you the option to kill an NPCs with no repercussions imma do it
scenic stratus
isn't that how everyone plays video games
like if Animal Crossing gave me the option I would Slaughter the whole town
I don't actually play that game I'm just using it as an example by the way
and I don't know what you mean when they say Doom 3 doesn't feel like Doom when I get surrounded by enemies I turn on Sprint and start running around like a Maniac spring my shotgun at everything that moves
and I don't know if it's just me but Doom 3 is not scary at all
apart from when it spawns three pinky demons behind you
scenic stratus
the revenants in Doom 3 are the bane of my existence
if you play it on nightmare it is quite scary
also if you play the Doom 3 port on any of the modern consoles the Xbox One version is the darkest
honest lynx
@scenic stratus gooud gooud..
scenic stratus
who pinged me?
steep inlet
the guy directly above you
scenic stratus
it wasnt even there when i posted that
what
@scenic stratus i could have sworn it was
awesome
lol
scenic stratus
I recently played the non-bfg doom 3 client you get through bethesda on their site, and its pretty solid
scenic stratus
cool
dawn jetty
So quick question, not sure if this was a glitch but in my recently completed playthrough which was my first on pc and the first in a long time since my console days but the first or second Tentacle Commando I fought said "You will not escape" but no other lines like that happened afterwards.
Has this happened to anyone else? I just read online that Commandos were supposed to have lines back when Trent Reznor was doing the sound design for the game.
This is on the "recent" Doom 3 pc port that Bethesda has on their launcher. (Not the standard BFG edition but the one you buy to get the Doom Eternal skin)
honest lynx
Very strange . I've done a bunch of playthroughs over the years and I've only ever heard " diee" and the such @dawn jetty
dawn jetty
Indeed, when the line was said I was surprised since I didn't remember any of the normal enemies being able to say lines besides the radio effect from Z-Sec
I was actually running away from the Commando to put better distance for shooting them when it happened.
honest lynx
I'm guessing this was right out of the train when you are in maintenance to open the airlock ?
sinful marlin
I think for vanilla they’re basically mute besides saying die
But most any gameplay mod re-adds their original lines and they say a lot
Can’t recall them all exactly but basically they call you a weak mortal that deserves death
Gives them a lot of character like you’re fighting a marine that knows what he became and likes it
frozen nova
Doom 3 is better than Eternal
you can fire the bfg more than two times before running out of ammo
scenic stratus
not if you fully charge it
you know how much it pisses me off though when i see a youtube video talking about doom games and they bash doom 3's flashlight, atmosphere, and everything about it? makes me so mad.
"i wont be including doom 3 in the list because its much slower paced and feels completely different than the other games to the point it isnt really doom"
frozen nova
thats very dur hur of them
scenic stratus
agreed
doom 3 isnt even canonical either.
if you played eternal you know what i mean, there is no way it can fit
no love for doom 3
charred fox
We are the doom 3 fam in this doom 3less world
It’s also funny when they say 3 was a historical failure when it’s actually one of id’s most sold games of all time
stable fox
Doom 3 was actually my first exposure to Doom. It really left an impression on me when I was like 12
anyone remember this fucker from the RoE expansion pack?
restive delta
Indeed
acoustic kayakBOT
Indeed!
restive delta
Hits like a Mancubus, but is faster
scenic stratus
and takes more hits
charred fox
Took me a while to realize the teeth move on the monitor
honest lynx
Always seemed really weird to me though with the tv teeth
charred fox
He’s got some clean chompers ngl
I think maybe they should’ve made them less human lol
honest lynx
I think it was supposed to be some sort of baron replacement to be honest
scenic stratus
if it wasnt for doom 3, doom 2016 would not be here. it took the developement hell of doom 4 to warrant 2016. and doom 4 wouldnt have been in developement if doom 3 flopped.
honest lynx
It didnt flop. It was just overshadowed by some heavy hitters. 2004 was an insane year for games
scenic stratus
thats why we have 2016
fans like to pretend this game doesnt exist yet if it werent for this game we wouldnt have 2016 and eternal
charred fox
Yeah, a lot of the art direction kinda comes from 3 as well I think
In terms of uac environments maybe
sinful marlin
Best way to describe doom 3 is an attempt at a reboot and story wise an alternate timeline
At least we didn’t get the original planned doom 2016 where it was going to be a cinematic heavy cod style shooter as a boring human resistance fighter
Where enemies appeared to do way more scripted movement than actual AI
scenic stratus
yikes doom 4 looks horrible
sinful marlin
By the looks of it, it was slated for a late 360 or early one x gen release
Most likely cross generation releases
scenic stratus
doom 4 could have been cool if they went for a less cod feel
but doom 2016 kicks ass and im glad we got that instead
signal plover
so i had a stupid thought after seeing an email for getting 25K points on Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3
sinful marlin
Not sure if true but it was gonna have a 2 weapon limit
signal plover
how did the hr department know about me breaking the highscore
scenic stratus
maybe its internet connected?
signal plover
on that note why have it there if you going to dock vacation time
sinful marlin
kinda like how bioshock killed itself with infinite by going for "gun play" over a coherent story
2 weapon memes with upgrades that are useless if you don't have the gun or ammo
doom eternal did gun play right, sure ammo is tight but you have the chainsaw reload button
honest lynx
People actually wanted the campaign DLCs to be something like what doom 4 was going to be
scenic stratus
I wouldnt be against something like doom3 style or even a more military esque shooter like cod. but doom 4 just looks boring
spring fog
Hey guys, anyone know if the doom 3 on PS4 is BFG edition and comes with doom 1 and 2?
final plover
spring fog
@final plover checked on Wikipedia and it says July 26, 2019 the bfg was released for PS4, Xbox one and switch. Also @scenic stratus says it is as well.
So not sure what to believe haha
spring fog
Seen some reddit posts that it is. Almost finished downloading so will see
Doesn’t come with it but they definitely released an update to add it in
It’s the BFG version but doom 1 and 2 need to be bought seperately.
But if you get the physical game called Doom Slayers Collection you get doom 1, 2, 3 and 2016 for $15
honest lynx
Just get classic doom for everything like me. I have it on my pc my phone and my playstation. Might install it on my fridge later
scenic stratus
they should make a doom os, where you go around shooting icons to start various doom ports/games
honest lynx
Right now I'm playing the doom vr phone game while I'm stuck at home. Shooting demons on my toilet and shit
honest lynx
It's a crazy world. Need to move around a bit 
sinful marlin
Just circle strafe in your bedroom
scenic stratus
imagine playing games like doom vfr or doom 3 bfg edition vr in a huge gymnasium.
rocky ore
What's with the DOOM 3 Guns and just being so ugly
scenic stratus
2004
tight valve
What's with the doom 3 guns and not being fun to use
versed estuary
Besides shotgun the rest are fun
sinful marlin
What’s with he chain gun only holding 60 round belts and having the fastest reload in the game?
The pistol is ironically the slowest reload
We can argue shotgun is the slowest but you can still fire partially loaded
honest lynx
The rifle is probably the most fun for me to use for some reason.
I think it's because my shots go exactly where I aim
sinful marlin
Guns are weird, you can snipe with the pistol because it’s 100% accurate
Machine gun is basically the same
honest lynx
Advanced weapon with no recoil would be cool
sinful marlin
Come to think of it basically everything but the chain gun is dead on accurate
scenic stratus
cough shotgun cough
sinful marlin
Hey it’s accurate when it’s inside the imps model
scenic stratus
true
honest lynx
Mars base that needs to avoid causing a pressure breach... let's use buckshot
sinful marlin
Never really noticed but apparently head shots do more damage as a single shotgun to the head can kill a revenant
scenic stratus
ive done that
sinful marlin
It’s science fiction all the windows except 2 are bullet proof
honest lynx
I think that might just be the rng
sinful marlin
Yeah you have to get them when they spawn in and crouch down slightly
Otherwise too tall and shooty
honest lynx
Theres a marine video I believe telling you to avoid shooting things that will cause a pressure breach
sinful marlin
I think only in the plasma compressor room with he maggots
Shooting the tubes is an immediate death
honest lynx
Some dude ordered cheap glass if I remember right
honest lynx
Hahaha oh man that was funny
sinful marlin
Makes me wonder why there was like a platoons worth of heavily armed marines to protect nerds
Like who’s gonna get into the base when it’s on another planet
honest lynx
I think they started sending more troops when people started going crazy
sinful marlin
They were sending strike teams into hell to capture demons
honest lynx
One story of a guy shooting up a machine with a plasma gun and then using it on himself. Another girl killing people at a get together. Things like that
They would have just used troops in delta then. They had troops all over the base
sinful marlin
Poor Simon garlic stuck in hell with demons toying with him
Well they were looking base wide for volunteers but the rumors spread quick of what happens when you go
Marines would come back and suffer severe mental trauma and psychosis and would eventually turn into zombies
honest lynx
Eventually they had to have forced volunteers
sinful marlin
I’m sure Betreuger was being influenced before he went through the portal
Where he then struck a deal to bring them the soul cube in exchange for power
There’s some logs where people say he just wasn’t the same after he went through the first time
Like it was his body but something else was inside it
honest lynx
He definitely was. Hell was communicating with him in his dreams
sinful marlin
When you misconstrue ancient tablets warning you not to use teleportation technology as “hey use this technology we discovered” 
There were some scientists that knew they had discovered hell
The guy you get sent to collect and the other that helps you with the first teleported prototype
honest lynx
How did they stop the demons from vaporizing when they dissected them. I'm guessing they kept them alive or instantly froze the dead ones
sinful marlin
No clue never explained
Really the disintegration was just saving polygons idk if it was ever acknowledged in the game world
honest lynx
Not in doom 3 no but 2016 it has something to do with argent
versed estuary
Doom 3 is not doom
|| April fools||
scenic stratus
ANGER
sees spoiler tab
NO ANGER
charred fox
Doom 3 Sucks!!!!!!!
proven zodiac
Yeah doom 3 doodoo!
charred fox
It’s too dark wtf
proven zodiac
Too hard
charred fox
Yea
proven zodiac
Doom isn't a horror game!
charred fox
Hardest doom game of all time
proven zodiac
^
charred fox
Where’s the rip and tears
charred fox
YEA
scenic stratus
@charred fox @proven zodiac Doom 3 happens to be one of my favourite Doom games Doom 3 is not hard it's not scary and it's not that dark well it may be hard for you but you might just be shite at the game
charred fox
Doom 3 is harder than Cuphead
scenic stratus
hard the challenge is what makes it fun
charred fox
Yea
Tbh doom 3 is probably my top 5 doom games
I take back everything I said it’s the best game ever made
scenic stratus
lol
wait there's six Doom games in total which game do you not like if Doom 3 is top five
charred fox
Oh shit lol
WELL I didn’t think of that but tbh top 5 for me is literally “everything in category is good”
scenic stratus
lol
charred fox
I’ll have to probably play plutonia and tnt though
Anyways doom 3 in the number one spot. Greatest game to face the planet
*Grace
Doom 3 will destroy the planet
scenic stratus
Guys
I have changed my mind on doom 3, it has no metal (asides the main theme), its slow. it had a shitty flashlight system and the weapons are fucking awful. sorry everyone but this game is a dump
worn nest
Agreed
scenic stratus
It has a killer metal soundtrack if you play your favorite metal album while playing
the fact that you need to do that is bullshit. fuck doom 3 smh
ok im done, april fools. doom 3 is actually great, buy it or suffer.
proven zodiac
^
faint owl
This section has the best people on this server
Also guys I need games like Doom 3 I'm getting that itch again. I only have 4 on my list; Quake 4, Prey 2005, Prey 2017 and Wolfenstein 2009. Anyone got anymore suggestions?
robust rover
Apparently Doom 3 looked like Half-life so.
scenic stratus
I think they look like early 2000's games, but Doom 3's lighting is supurb for what it was going for
Hell, very few 2000's fps games feel as refined as 3 does.
And I've played COD and MOH on GameCube/OG Xbox
I just love Doom, really, so take what I say out of context all ya want y'all
charred fox
Yeah I love this pocket of this server
I like everyone in the server but this place is comfy
scenic stratus
It's so adoring
faint owl
And there's no Eternal Zoomers
scenic stratus
Get the OG version (OG Xbox preferred, if possible.)
It's more of a tactical and horror game that way.
Otherwise BFG Edition is fine for the story experience. 
scenic stratus
Doom 3 I am coming soon once I am done with 2 and 1
scenic stratus
if idtech 4 were refined slightly and optimized for modern hardware, a new game in 2020 released on it wouldnt look bad
Also, to those interested in Doom 3, don't buy it if you are looking for another Classic Doom game or Doom 2016, it is much slower than those and has a completely different tone. If you go into it expecting something new and different, then you might enjoy it more.
frozen crest
...strong words @honest lynx strong words.
scenic stratus
I hate how many zoomers in the community there are, I have no problem with Gen Z, (I am Gen Z) I mean the people who refuse to play the originals because "Doom 2016 good" (it is) and with Eternal being phenomenal their attitude toward the old games becomes more critical.
I respect that some may not like the originals and I respect that, however the amount of people I have met who disregard the original games baffles me.
honest lynx
I still play the originals religiously so it's weird to me as well. And I mean at least once a couple months. I mean they're short and epic trippy and intense fun games. Also I said this before but best games to play when you're baked
scenic stratus
I think we're all in agreeance we all love Doom 3 but the Doom movie is hot garbage
at least its better than annilhation
honest lynx
If they only made the whole movie that first person shit. I'd watch it
scenic stratus
hell yeah
coral solstice
the novels make both movies look like Citizen Kane and Casablanca
I don't think there's anything that could top that level of stupidity
honest lynx
They make a new graphic novel or short comic of doom I'd be all in though. Novel is a dumb idea
coral solstice
"genetically modified humans" isn't so bad compared to "broccoli aliens"
shadow dagger
@faint owl If you're looking for older games of a simpler time, try out Singularity. One of Raven's last good games
faint owl
@shadow dagger I've actually played that game. I was surprised, it was pretty good. I with Bethesda would re release Wolf2009 though. That game is so underrated and is better than Wolfenstein 2 imo
shadow dagger
Yeah, I remember playing Wolfenstein 2009 on the xbox 360, and having trouble acquiring it every time I've wanted to play it since. Same story with Singularity
Unfortunately hard to get on PC in Australia :/
faint owl
Well singularly is on Steam right now but Wolf09 was taken off steam by activision a long time ago. Bethesda own the rights go all ID ips even games not made by ID like Wolf09 yet they still won't re-release it
faint owl
Really? That sucks...
shadow dagger
Yup, a lot of things here are pretty silly. It's a good place over all though
faint owl
So have they lifted the ban off 18+ games yet?
shadow dagger
Huh? Don't think that's ever been in play for my whole life. Let alone ever
Sure you're not thinking about Germany?
faint owl
Ah so I just looked it up but some games are banned or were banned at somepoint like L4D2
shadow dagger
Huh, I've never heard about that
I played L4D2 on the xbone 360 as well
Must have been before I really knew about stuff
flint trout
is the Doom 3 on Bethesda, the one wich comes with the expansion??? not the BFG one
scenic stratus
it has two and is just a bfg rerelease without the classics
flint trout
i should buy both... LOL
i'm a Doom B####, what else i can say...
ohh, i got it, one is the first Doom 3 with the expnsions and the other is the BFG package...
there's some differences between both
like the Flashlight, on the first release, it needed to be held in hand, on the BFG it was mounted on the chest
scenic stratus
Do I get the expansion in the switch version?
versed estuary
^ this
scenic stratus
Sweet
flint trout
got both the classic and BFG edition
robust rover
Doom 3 on switch is pretty fun to play
scenic stratus
Definitely I'm playing it rn
flint trout
the major difference is one contains the classic games, the other don't
scenic stratus
Where do you get the classic games in the switch port?
I know the bfg ports of the games are kinda weird tho
limpid escarp
is doom 3 worth it despite all the hate
boreal adder
yeah it is. it may not be a game for everyone the way Doom 1 or 2 kinda were, but those who like it really love it
it's worth it to at least find out if you're one of those people 😉
copper cypress
Been debating on getting doom 3 recently, from what I've seen it kinda gives off a dead space vibe to me, which is one of my favorite games of all time, so was just wondering if this game is as creepy as it looks? Cause I'm totally down for a survival/tactical horror type doom game
scenic stratus
@copper cypress It starts off slower and creepier but gradually becomes faster when you acquire more weapons.
copper cypress
As was expected, thanks definitely gonna need to give it a shot then
scenic stratus
Have to say that the OG 2004 version is the way to go if you can.
versed estuary
@scenic stratus the doom 3 rerelease does not contain doom 1 and 2
Only the original BFG edition does
copper cypress
@scenic stratus what's the difference between the og and bfg edition?
scenic stratus
Ah i see thank you
robust rover
OG=More Hard because
Not so much ammo, and flashlight as a item
BFG=50% more of ammo, more ammo capacity, flashlight duct-tape on your armor
But the two version are the same
charred fox
Doom 3 good game
real seal
Doom 3= looking at enemies with peripheral vision cus flashlight is super fucked
boreal adder
...well I never found myself doing that
but I've also learned how to night vision
didn't need the flashlight for most of the game
versed estuary
OG is also a much darker game if I recall
scenic stratus
Bfg ed is so weak. I miss customizable controls and smashing fools heads in with the flashlight.
If the switch version at least had motion controls it'd be a hell of a lot better
versed estuary
I don’t understand all this love for motion controls, I personally find them incredibly unbearable
robust rover
Good for aiming, (like all fps with aiming) but terrible with camera
scenic stratus
It's ridiculously accurate having my controller act as a mouse+keyboard while also having a full thumbstick to aim
boreal adder
OG is also a much darker game if I recall
@versed estuary Kind of a weird decision too, 'cause BFG's the one that encourages you to have your flashlight on all the time.
versed estuary
Ikr? They made it brighter but also made it so you could always have flashlight on
boreal adder
except the few places where you actually need it. then the battery life is too short and you have to kill you own game's pacing to wait and keep looking around
versed estuary
Personally I’m not complaining, I hate games that think super darkness = horror
boreal adder
there was no real reason to give it a battery
I dunno, to me super darkness = super fun, not horror
that's why I like OG Doom 3 to begin with
but I also seem to have better night vision than a lot of people if the comments they sometimes make are any indication
versed estuary
Like I tried watching doom 3 OG and doom 64, but man the darkness is annoying
If I can’t see what’s going on that’s garbage to me.
boreal adder
it's like being a hunting panther. you're still the predator
versed estuary
Like B4 Bedrock Minecraft. Nighttime was pitch black. Caves pitch black. Can’t see ANYTHING
boreal adder
but like I said I don't really have much problem seeing what's going on, and the game gives me another sense besides
versed estuary
Panthers can see in the dark tho..."
charred fox
People say they had the lights off when working on 64 which was why it was so damn dark but idk how true that is
Just was kinda funny
boreal adder
like I said, I suspect part of the reason Doom 3 was so fun to me is that my night vision is above average. Doom is not the only thing in my life that gives me that impression. not by far
and I like how the game has you rely on your sense of hearing as well
the directional sound is done really well and all the enemies have their own particular footsteps
charred fox
Dude ikr
There’s a lot of instinct that goes into play
3 is more of a reflex game than what people think
scenic stratus
3 is a lot more complicated than the zoomers like to say
charred fox
Hell ye
scenic stratus
and still won
honest lynx
I teleported to him just when I fell so yeah. Didnt know that would happen cool
boreal adder
honestly never used rockets on him. but I haven't played more than a level or two on nightmare
oh oooooooh yeah, because the game puts you in the center of the arena next to the BFG once he dies!
charred fox
Hot damn
scenic stratus
I think I missed the plasma rifle rip
boreal adder
you'll find another
they leave the weapons lying around throughout the game and if you already have them you just take their ammo
scenic stratus
Thank god
boreal adder
plus there's a couple spots where some of your weapons get taken away and you get to hunt them down again
just keep an eye out, basically. it's old-school, the game won't hand them to you but it will make them easier and easier to find
you still have to do the finding
scenic stratus
Ty
versed estuary
Nice
honest lynx
Maledict is going to be fun 
faint owl
https://youtu.be/v4C9w-uWV64 still gives me chills 
scenic stratus
How easy is it to make mods and maps for doom 3?
not
Damn
@scenic stratus jk idk but given the low count i think it's pretty hard
I wanna see more doom3 mod love
don't we all
i think even the doom 3 haters would like to play an action twist on this game
Is that what perfected doom 3 is
idk, i never tried doom 3 mods
my only gripe with doom 3 was always the limited mobility
but it adds tension
Mine is the screenshake when you get hit
And the shotgun
shotgun range is a bit angering
I just hate the shotgun in general
doesn't look great compared to its counterparts i agree
The damage is random and its severely underpowered
true
you have to be in the imp's face
The supershotgun in doom3 looks cool tho
am a bit sad it's only in the expansion but it's a remake of doom 1 so...
Imagine brutal doom 3
I'm not fan of brutal doom in general but why not
I understand why
it's cool in multi tho
Brutal doom 3 has to have been done before surely
in doom 2
What's that called?
faint owl
I want to play a more hardcore survival horror version of Doom 3 honestly
With a near to no HUD like dead space
https://youtu.be/OQAd-HHdf1c Doom 3 is one sexy beast
I'm not sure if it's true but was Doom 3 made by under 40 people? If so that is a achievement of the highest standard in gaming history
faint owl
That's beyond impressive tbh
fervent crest
I'd believe it
scenic stratus
Doom 3 is history
the other games are more historic
but this one also contributed a lot to the gaming industry
scenic stratus
Doom tried many things and some could argue sometimes confusing directions but there's only very good games and we should be thankful
fervent crest
Doom 3 was quite a revolutionary game
it's just been overshadowed by Half Life 2 and Halo 2 which came out the same year
when people think back to 2004 those are the 2 games most people think of in terms of the fps games
but Doom 3 had better graphical advances, especially in terms of animation and character design
thorn hawk
Doom 3 was the first doom game I ever saw (I never played it myself) and I only remembered the part in the first mission a bit after you find the scientist
But because of that I thought doom games were supposed to be survivor horror games and so I was very confused when I saw doom 2016
boreal adder
hehe
the first two doom games did have elements of that sort of thing too
Doom 1 had more of it than 2
hollow parrot
i had nightmares of doom when i was younger
boreal adder
but even with the horror bits I wouldn't call Doom 3 "survival". combat is still as much in your control as you want it to be
the game just sometimes tries to fool you into thinking it isn't
hollow parrot
I think its more action/horror up until the 3rd act of the game. Then it becomes action.
boreal adder
yeah
the difference between that and something like Dead Space is that in DS the action revolves around the level design and the enemy placement
In Doom 3 the action still revolves around you, and even when the enemies teleport in and pick the fight they still end up reacting to what you choose to do
which makes them, ultimately, the ones trying to survive. not you
:spoiler alert: they fail
😄
carmine sonnet
Lol, never thought of it that way, kind of true though.
boreal adder
I think it's part of the reason the game was divisive
In order for it to really "click" you have to figure out not only that it's trying to trick you but that it wants you to figure that out
If you only figure out the first part it just becomes a horror game that isn't very scary
honest lynx
I'm pretty happy they cut back the jump scares in roe. They got annoying pretty fast. And not to mention literally knowing that a long hallway to a door meant something was hiding behind it.
boreal adder
That never bothered me so much because it meant I'd get to kill another demon :)
versed estuary
If you walk at door diagonally to the left or right imp gets stuck on the sides mid jump then stands up
It was pretty annoying / got old healing then opening a door, lost 20hp. Go back to heal again
honest lynx
Well on nightmare it bothers you because it's an insta death unless you know what to do like what bob mentioned or if you react fast enough.
boreal adder
Fairish I guess
I've only tried a few maps on Nightmare, and didn't enjoy it very much
honest lynx
@boreal adder you should give it another shot. It was the most fun I've had. Its brutal and really makes you feel like you're just a marine way over his head
boreal adder
Eternal's got a little more Doom 3 in its DNA than 2016 did, I think... but that's still not saying much
it's a very different game and I wouldn't say that I like it for the same reasons as I like Doom 3, but I do really like it nevertheless
bitter pebble
languid mauve
reload
faint owl
Interesting. I think there are thing that Eternal do better than 2016 but things it does way worse. Here's my issues.
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The platforming, the problem I have is not that it's there but because it's way too easy and not satisfying when it's near impossible to fail at it.
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Lack of ammo, the lower ammo count is a good thing compared to 2016 but it's a little too low. To the point where I have to use my chainsaw and watch a cutscene every minute or I think this could have been solved by just speeding up the chainsaw kills or by having a lot more animations so it's not as repetitive.
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The crucible, now the crucible is awesome but feels redundant since you get it super late in the campaign and it makes some fights a breeze when you can kill a tyrant and it only takes 1 bar of the 3. Also makes it more complicated than it needs to be. I would have just replaced the chainsaw the the crucible then my issues with both the chainsaw and the crucible would have been solve. Have the crucible give you ammo just like the saw. Faster animations. Then after you finish the game replace all the gas cans with crucible pickups.
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Spoiler the ending felt cheap, so the icon I feel could have benefited by one having it in a different location since dark grey environment looked boring for a climax fight and 2 by having a 3rd act to the fight. Also the zoom out fade to black, credits left me feeling like "really? Was that it?"
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Some of the glory kills looked like they were repeated for different monsters. If you notice the zombie, imp and hellknight all had similar glory kills break their left arm punch in the face. I felt like Doom 2016 had a better variety of glory kills for each demon.
There are more and obviously these are minor gripes so take these with a pinch of salt. Also Battlemode just suck and I would have been happy if DE didn't have a competitive mp mode.
languid mauve
woH
sinful marlin
you could waste an entire rune slot to double the animation speed
faint owl
Yeah sucks what's the point of that
What would be awesome is if they put a slider in the options for animation speed because it essentially pauses the game anyway so it doesn't matter what speed it is as long as it fits the player
It wouldn't break the game if it was included
faint owl
@bitter pebble true if you look at the Doom 3 Aesthetic video I post it really shows of the atmosphere and terrific lighting. Also I'm sure every room had its own atmospheric sounds.
charred fox
I agree with the ending and also the crucible
For a close ranged game we don’t actually have a melee weapon
Not a huge deal but could’ve been fun to swing a sword around for real
The platforming though I think is legitimately fun. Doomguy vaults off walls extremely quickly and you can kinda sequence break with just how much momentum he gains
Also inflight rune +ballista jumping is fun
scenic stratus
I like to laugh when people call the Marauder super hard and unbalanced. It's a matter of SSG + Ballista + Another SSG if you're quick for like 3 times and he is dead.
thorn hawk
The only time I really dislike the marauder is when there are heavy demons around him ||or more specifically that one time a archvile spawns around the same time ||
Besides that I actually enjoy fighting and beating him
upbeat light
Does anyone still play the multiplayer for the bfg edition on doom 3 for either PS3 or Xbox 360?
charred fox
People will defend dark souls to death for being intentionally bullshit but will whine about a fast but weak character that requires timing to kill
faint owl
I don't like the marauders because they force you to wait which goes against the feeling of Doom. Doomslayer doesn't wait for eyes to go green. He smashes head on.
charred fox
You have to bait his running animation cause otherwise he’ll start starin’ at you
To do this I usually just distance from him and he’ll get impatient
He always attacks after doing his goofy run
Otherwise you can also remote detonate a rocket behind him and it’ll actually soften him a bit
fervent crest
Dark Souls is not my kinda game, I just don't like those kinda of games which is a shame cause I really wanted to like Jedi Fallen Order
scenic stratus
The final mission in the lost missions is so good.
sinful marlin
Except a guardian you shoot to death is somehow more boring than the cyber demon gimmick of soul cube and only
If you save the bfg ammo you can kill it in under 20 seconds
fervent crest
the only thing notable to me from the entire lost mission is the boat and the lava lake
everything else is just reused from the campaign
and I swear some of Meyers lines are taken directly from the script of that other scientist from delta complex
in fact those whole 2 missions are just a repeat from the delta complex missions in the main campaign
with getting the plasma inducer
he even gives you his video log before you enter the teleporter
I mean I get not introducing new weapons or mechanics but I kinda hoped the actual story of the lost missions would at least feel fresh and not in itself just a campaign repeat
I don't have too many gripes with the final boss, I mean boring yeah can die under 20 seconds to the bfg yeah but remember in Doom 1 you could 3 shot the spider mastermind with the bfg so
I guess my only bossfight complaint is that it just feels boring
fervent crest
it's vastly different from 2016 in the way it plays but it still shares many similar elements to 2016
faint owl
@red island isn't push forward combat literally doom though?
Even Doom 3 was push forward combat. The shotgun encouraged it with its spread
scenic stratus
@red island it isnt the exact same, its tougher and does require movement yes, but it is less "shoot this" and more "conserver your ammo, aim for weakpoints, chainsaw an imp for ammo, and then shoot this." It is a good progression. Not saying that you will like it or that you should buy it, but as someone who doesn't see 2016 as the best game, I was blown away by Eternal.
much more methodical
2016's gameplay is fun at first but the same thing over and over gets boring for me
eternal has more variety with harder enemies, less ammo but also has refined mechanics and weapons feel better
versed estuary
You have to remember doom 3 is it’s own spin off game / own universe / own story
scenic stratus
You don't have to like it, Doom is eternal and every game will last forever
charred fox
I liked 16’s plasma but it had all the same qualities and sounds of a squirt gun
versed estuary
Oh I doubt we will ever see anything like doom 3 again
The majority of players hate 3 remember,
Saying it’s “not doom”
charred fox
Aww I love eternal’s
I hope we get a skin for a doom 64 plasma tho
That’s kinda what I love about it
Big chunky space gun that is probably dangerous to even hold
Oh dude I gotta finish stalker
Yes
Really scares the shit outta me too!
YES
Oh god
Radiation ghosts
Dude, first time playing that I didn’t think the game would be supernatural lol
Like I thought it was all science fiction crazyness
Yea lol
Yeeepppp
There’s something to be said about being that limited in games like stalker and doom 3 and still coming out like a badass
Also yeah I gotta man up and finish it
honest lynx
@charred fox dou it !
charred fox
Aight bro
honest lynx
Also get psn
honest lynx
No idea. I have no idea what you guys are talking about
charred fox
OH lol
Basically spook ass game
Like doom 3 but without the comfyness for me
Also open world with rpg elements
Sorta
honest lynx
Ahhhh heavily underrated horror game ... sounds like my jam
faint owl
@red island well have you played Prey 2017?
God damn dude. You would love it
Yeah a mix of horror, exploration and action
Closest thing to doom 3 imo
It's a little more advanced than Doom 3 though
Tbh I wish Doom 3 was more like Prey 2017 how you can return to previous maps with keycards from other area that open up more interesting areas in the world
There's these black goo headcrab things called mimics that mimic items in the world so you're not sure what could be a mimic or a item. So that healthpack that you thought was safe BAM it turns into a monster that tries to kill you
robust rover
There were not a Prey in the 2000 ?
faint owl
@robust rover Prey 2006 yeah which was a Doom 3 engine game
faint owl
But it got rebooted in 2017
@red island yeah the design is basically a world where JFK was never assassinated and a lot of US funds went into space exploration so it the year 2030 something but the tech is feels like it should be in the 2100s.
It's actually a space station called Talos1
But I thought you would like it since it's a game you can play how ever you want slow or fast it's up to you
It not as dark in tone as Doom 3 but it's the closest thing. Sci fi, keycodes, audiologs, etc
Well it's not so much the base story more so the world. It feels like a actual place. There are many stories on the base which you can find out listening to diologs. It's mostly environmental story telling
I don't want to spoil the main story tbh since it's a actual mind fuck
But it's a genre of games called Immersive Sims. It hard to really pinpoint and explain what a immersive sim is but the games that are immersive sims are; Bioshock, System Shock, Thief, Prey 2017, Ultima Underworld (the original immersive sim) Dishonoured and Deus Ex
versed estuary
The last 2 on that list 
faint owl
Dishonoured and Deus Ex are amazing
I remember not wanting to play Dishonoured for a long time. Till I tried it last year and fell in love with it
Same with Deus Ex
I'm not sure if it's true but I remember hearing that John Carmack saying after playing Ultima Underworld that Immersive Sims are the true evolution of first person games.
@red island well it how much you kill while being noticed I think
I mean it would explain why Doom 3 was so immersive if John thought that considering it was his project
I think a immersive sim in the Doom universe would be epic my self. Or a game with a dark demonic tone
I would have loved if Doom 3 was one giant level like Prey 2017 that was fully explorible. But the Doom community would have hated it more lol
charred fox
Prey looks pretty cool man
charred fox
Yeah it’s too bad
honest lynx
It's hard for games to get recognized because of all those mainstream games like cod saturating everything
Theres like 10 big games that people talk about and that's it. The rest dont get recognized most of the time
faint owl
I also love using the environment to kill things in Prey also like shooting gas pipes that shootout flames to set aliens on fire that conservatives ammo
Playing smart in Prey 2017 is really rewarding
I still enjoy linear games but they're not my favs
honest lynx
I only ever played those 2 as well
faint owl
@red island well the base mechanics are explained like the gloo gun. You can fire glue onto walls that hardens and can be used as stairs to reach higher platforms that is explained to you just by shooting the cannon. But the gas pipes one is one I figured out on my own lol
Just use your brain and Prey becomes super amazing and you feel amazing using unconventional ways to solve problems
I think linear games are good when they throw curve balls at the player. Every level and environment has to be unique or it's just repetitive and boring
honest lynx
I just try to avoid multiplayer based games in general. I dont play games to rage out and stress.
faint owl
Hl2 did a good job at making linear fun
My favs are small open world games though. Small worlds packed with detail like Deus Ex
Yeah Deus Ex puts quite a few people off because it's not a FPS really
versed estuary
It’s a detective, stealth, fps, guns a blazing, third person. Story game
And I normally hate all that, but loved it
faint owl
Well the New ones are
Kind of
It goes third person when in cover like Rainbow 6 vegas
But majority of the time it's first person
The Original deus ex is all first person though
But they're all amazing games except Deus Ex Invisable War
It's up to you but don't upgrade the jump power. The game is more satisfying when you can't jump 10ft in the air. The problems are much more interesting to solve when you don't have that power. Makes everything a breeze to play
versed estuary
I played Human revolution
One of my favorite games
faint owl
@red island I haven't played invisible war but I heard it's more of a generic linear shooter
Instead of a small open world sandbox
But these are rumors I've heard. I'll probably find out when I actually play it and think "hey that wasn't that bad really"
It's the last in the canon so play the series in this order.
- Human Revolution
- Mankind Divided
- DEUS EX original
- Invisable War
@red island ever play system shock? I don't know if the graphics would be too primitive for you though?
And yeah that speed is pretty painful
sinful marlin
wtf doom 3 is 4.99 now, when I bought it, it was still 19.99 like gamestop was selling it
flat ibex
Yeah even if only because of the mod support
winged laurel
How to say Why in multiple languages.
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why
Proč
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coral solstice
@winged laurel ok, and?
winged laurel
the more you know @coral solstice
coral solstice
Oh, I thought you were doing some special kind of Doom 3 hate
ornate ore
Doom 3 for life
left rose
Doom 3 is love?
honest lynx
Doom 3 is life
scenic stratus
Can we officially be called the Doom 3 Fan Club now?
coral solstice
yeah
static ridge
Doom 3 good game bad doom game
wind yoke
I mean, you're fighting Hell itself. I don't see why it shouldn't have a game focused on horror.
It's an underrated game.
ornate ore
Yee
Doom 3 good game bad doom game
Doom is more of an action game as we know it however it should be a horror game considering its content
scenic stratus
Hey guys I just bought doom 3 is it like a separate game? Or is it like an add on? It was only like 3 dollars so I’m confused?
wind yoke
Nope; it's the full thing. However, it doesn't include the Resurrection of Evil expansion.
You must of been lucky to get it at that price.
marble bough
It's funny, doom was meant to be horror focused iirc
But since it was '93 id had little to work with
And it kinda had some horror elements but it had fast paced action overall
sinful marlin
Thought it was based off a game of dnd they were playing
marble bough
I think it was though
they just wanted it to be focused on horror
But since it turned out to be more actionesque people liked it
then they did doom 3 with their original horror intention but people didnt like it
sinful marlin
Tom Hall made a grandiose book about how the game was going to have a massive universe and story and Carmack was like “bro it’s 1992 no one cares about story”
marble bough
so after cancelling doom 4 they made doom 2016
"Story is like that of a porn movie. You expect it to be there, but it's not that important"
I think that was the full quote, i dont remember
Also shotouts to that one alternate timeline where carmack kills us all
sinful marlin
You know now that I think of it games and porn did a 180, games do story and porn just gets straight to the point
marble bough
Yeah its weird
But he meant porn movies which do have some story that leads to the porn in the first place
but nobody cares about it
so carmack did the same with doom, it has an actual story that you can read
but the game itself doesnt say anything about the story, except those little screens that show up after a boss level / certain map
you just start it, pick the difficulty and there you go, shoot at stuff like the madlad you are
doom 3 kinda had more of a story but that ended up making it slowpaced
sinful marlin
He also did the same with Quake so Tom Hall left
marble bough
lots of cutscenes and a lot of time without a gun
That's why doom 2016 also has lack of cutscenes
marble bough
The moment you start the game you just get the little rip and tear thing but after that it jumps right into the action like in the originals
honest lynx
So roe nightmares a bit tougher. Last one on the list but its tougher. Mainly because you dont have that soul cube to get your health back. But loving the fast pace and FEAR feeling
honest lynx
@scenic stratus roe Is the best man.
cerulean stratus
honest lynx
Just bounce a grenade off the wall towards them. Trust me. Would I lie to you
scenic stratus
its a shame it isnt the climax
the game feels so bloated at times, the final boss should have been there
amber relic
That whole "story in a video game" quote may have been true a few decades ago, but it sounds insulting to hear something like that now
robust rover
Necessary, depend of the games, Because certain games is too much history and 0 gameplay
don't count game like Detroit and visual novel
robust rover
Yeah, Multiplayer game too
I love mp, but certain Mp is really bad
Exemple:Too much competitive
I prefer Fun Mp
This is why i prefer doom 4 Mp than COD Mp
For exemple
Or Fortnite/Rocket league than Overwatch etc etc
faint owl
The story in a game quote is taken so out of context all the time. Carmack says a story has to be there. But the story is the potatoes. The gameplay is the meaty stake. He never said there should be no story
But story in a video game isn't as important as gameplay
honest lynx
So you're saying the whole porn quote isnt true either ???
honest lynx
It's a good I'm just a average marine facing off against hell alone woah they dont pay me enough for this doom game
Roe has you slowing down time and punching demons across the room though and I still love that aspect as well haha
robust rover
Yeah but Doom 3 as the cliche of game of 2000
But its very good actualy
Yeah, a little, but they are not really the same
And the story had familiarity
But this is not a Portal thing they "failed"(i know is not that), its more the choice of Olivia because she was controlled
Yeah
But the Dragon-weird-Betruger is not that memorable
But Doom 3 is maybe 16 year old, its still pretty enjoyable
And not "ugly"
I Discover Doom with Doom 3 but i have buy Doom 2
And i Think Doom 2 is the, meh "one" good but wtf is that
I'm happy they released Add-on, now both Doom 1 and 2 are enjoyable
More Like Free Dlc on console
Free Wad
all Wad are free btw, why did i said that
But Roe is Solid, lost mission Meh and doom 3 good
I have more feel of a Doom 3 rewamp that a dlc (i know that is a "compilation" of unused map)
Yeah but can be scary At time (The F spider on the camera panel)
I know this is weird, but when you are very attentive when this sh*t litteraly come in front of you its pretty scary
Also a weird Thing i recommand Doom 3 more as a Starter for horror game than a doom
About Doom 4 (2013) do you think this was a better version of (2016/classic) ?
versed estuary
You have to put the imo at the end
robust rover
Yeah But the Weird Thing about Doom4, this was not a sequel of Doom 3 and not a Reboot
I think
versed estuary
Technically it was a sequel to 3 yeah
3 involves the helper ships coming, but the demons take it over and go to earth,
Which might have been the basis for the hell on earth invasion in doom 4
No, remember doom 3 is it’s own timeline and universe
No, we are not talking about 2016” we are taking about the scrapped doom 4
Flak said doom 4 (2013)
versed estuary
Doom 4 sounded like an interesting concept, if they made it faster, and less cutscene like
Again, not as a Main line doom game, but as a spin off
robust rover
This is why i talked about The Scrapped one here, because is more likely Doom 3 than other
robust rover
Doom 4 Cutscene was very Good
versed estuary
I’d be down for a Rage version of doom
It’s not the hate towards cod, but it would have turned Doom into a cover shooter, and doom is anything but a cover shooter
Doom has always been about
Mostly
Pushing forward and killing demons like crash at high speed,
So all of a sudden now you are crouching behind boxes? Woulda been very weird
robust rover
Doom 4 Super Shotgun and glory-kill are the only things that were stay in 2016
versed estuary
Dashing back and forth between walls is different than crouching behind a box
carmine sonnet
The use of “Cod” is to just show how many modern FPS games are exactly like it. No real hate towards it other than it’s a bit generic in every way
versed estuary
Dashing back and forth between Walls is still fast movement, crouching behind a box is no movement
robust rover
Because TBH Cod is not very good, its just more accessible
Glory Kill is very old in Id-games
The first Glory-kill is from A Quake game i think ?
versed estuary
What if I told you, Doom 4 Development was before Brutal doom development
Yes
Glory kills we’re already in doom 4 before BD was ever made
robust rover
the Only thing that i know from BD that it worked on my phone
versed estuary
Yeah don’t GK unless you need health
Than again you don’t play nightmare so no risk and reward there
robust rover
So, "imps" of doom 4 is pretty ducked up
Also, the only good thing in doom 3 about imp is the imps are not Hitscan
sinful marlin
When have imps ever been hitscan?
versed estuary
Ultra nightmare is a meme/ canon mode, nightmare is the hard mode
robust rover
Doom 2016 imps are very hitscanny
sinful marlin
They throw fast balls but if you’re at range they’re just as easy to dodge
versed estuary
Imps had that super quick fireball yeah, even on nightmare it would eat a juicy 30hp
sinful marlin
Worst thing you can do is chase them as they have that backhand throw
robust rover
Definitly the Design of Hell knight since doom 3 is good
More like a Giant Imp very buffed than a little baron
carmine sonnet
I know, glad it’s design has been kept somewhat the same since
coral solstice
no, it's similar, but generally an inferior recreation
the 3 Knight is a lot fleshier
robust rover
Eternal is more like Doom 3
With Hell Knight
Even blind they can destroy you
But wtf were cacodemon
In doom 3
Weird
They are basically the weirdest one
And not very harmy
I Think the classic one is more dangerous
But doom 3 is intimidate
Doom 3 Cacodemon when they die is like "oh, missing files" and they just fall, i very like to kill cacodemon from doom 3
Very satisfying
jovial lintel
I just got an oculus quest. Is there a VR version of Doom 3?
robust rover
Yes, but its a mod
And apparently doom 3 vr is Solid
And The BFG of Doom 3 is so cool, it can even explode you
jovial lintel
Do you know what it's called? I'm reading somewhat conflicting or possibly outdated info
robust rover
I don't know, i see this mod in a video, very old video
jovial lintel
Not for me...
robust rover
I only see the message from yesterday at ~1 french Am
cunning gale
So, in doom 3, near the beginning, there is a termnal that has an error code needed, put in 8-4-2 and on the third terminal press open hatch, follow the pipes into a small hatch and there is some armor and health therer
Brb
back
robust rover
Pretty sur you can
Idk, 2004 games
I think if you have better than Nintendo Switch you can
lilac dagger
any chance that there'd be a vr version of doom 3 on ps4
robust rover
No, i think
lilac dagger
darn 
im finding it really hard to get into this game
only just bought it a few days ago
coral solstice
I wish there was a VR mod for 3 that wasn't for BFG Edition
I refuse to waste my money on that awful remaster
dapper yacht
The only good thing about BFG Edition is the 120fps support. It is sublime on 120fps. Pity that can't be replicated on original Doom 3.
scenic stratus
I sadly already own the Big Fucking Garbage edition, so all I need is a VR.
charred fox
cold shard
what’s wrong with the bfg version
faint owl
If anyone is interested on what Doom 4 (the unreleased Doom game) would have been like, go play F.E.A.R. 3 lol
coral solstice
@cold shard too easy and it cuts out some areas
and on top of that, it includes a mediocre extra campaign and shitty ports of Doom 1 and 2
unique ridge
Flak you mean Rage
@coral solstice those ports serve a purpose though now, the BFG Edition on console is the only way to play classic online multiplayer on console now
faint owl
@cold shard the problem I have is they made the game a lot brighter which breaks the atmosphere. It also has a bigger ammo pool so you never have the feeling of running out of ammo. You can just spam the plasmagun the entire game. Also it removes the hand held torch. Some say this is a good thing but I feel you're suppose to use the enemies silhouette in the dark to see them.
unique ridge
I mean that was a bad example b/c you could spam the Plasma Gun in the original too
faint owl
@unique ridge nah i feel rage was it's own thing. F.E.A.R. 3 looks and feels like that lost Doom 4 game lol
unique ridge
Every other gun had like no ammo though
cold shard
idk i’ve been playing BFG on veteran this week and aside from the machine gun and shotgun the ammo for all the other guns isn’t too plentiful
faint owl
Well both doom 3 versions have ammo pools that are too large tbh
cold shard
i’ve been running out of chain gun and plasma gun ammo a lot
faint owl
My major complaint about the game
unique ridge
I'll come back to Doom 3 b/c I felt like the demon designs took a step back in Eternal
cold shard
no way
faint owl
Hmmm I love both designs tbh
faint owl
I love all the designs in Doom 3
cold shard
cacodemon look terrible imo
faint owl
I love it it fits the game
cold shard
don’t like the revenant too much
faint owl
Every design is consistent
cold shard
he has like a weird jelly body
robust rover
Doom 3 as more fleshy coloured things
cold shard
one of my biggest issues with doom 3 is the rag doll psychics when u kill enemies
unique ridge
The Doom 3 and 2016 Mancubus designs are perfect
cold shard
like it looks so dumb killing a mancubus and instead of exploding and melting like the other games they just rag doll and fly off
unique ridge
Doom 3 looks like this eldrich thing
faint owl
I hate the 2016 mancubas
unique ridge
Doom 2016's is absolutely disgusting
cold shard
yeah eternal mancubus is way better than 2016
faint owl
But I hate the mancubas in every doom game
scenic stratus
2016 mancubus is garbage
faint owl
Doom 2016 mancubus looked like a generic fat alien
cold shard
only eternal enemy i don’t like is the zombies with the pentagrams on their head. they just look too silly imo
faint owl
I think it still looks better than the 2016 ones with the silly hole things in their heads
coral solstice
2016's Mancubus was basically HL1's Alien Grunt but fat
robust rover
More, the Hole on their head have not explanation
charred fox
16 mancubus was kinda funny
faint owl
#removethemancubusfromDoom
charred fox
: (
charred fox
Eternal mancubus kicks my ass
charred fox
Lol yeah
faint owl
If they used the gladiator designs I will be so happy
charred fox
I kinda wish they kept the gladiator’s face for them
faint owl
Yeah
charred fox
Dude ikr
faint owl
Gladiator looks way more intimidating
faint owl
Also he has similar eyes to the hellknight too
coral solstice
I wish the Gladiator had hide legs like the original Baron concept art
faint owl
He does doesn't he just looked
charred fox
It looks good to me
robust rover
Gladiator ? The Hell knight of doom 3 ?
faint owl
No the boss in eternal
robust rover
Hoh
I didn't play eternal
Revenant un Doom 3 are bad
I think since Doom 3 Revenant are pretty bad
scenic stratus
doom 3 revenant is okay
scenic stratus
its too weak indeed
robust rover
And very easy to dodge
I know Doom 3 its just corridor
But, Archvile
I only see 2
In the game
civic stirrup
The pinky looks uncircumcised
scenic stratus
why did you say this? i cant unsee it now
coral solstice
I've said that before
robust rover
The Cherub look Crispy too
honest lynx
There are a bunch of archys in lost missions
Also... roe.. way to many secs everywhere. This nightmare run is brutal
scenic stratus
ARCHVILES
honest lynx
It is done https://imgur.com/a/wZva0TR
It is done.. all of doom3 beaten on nightmare... man it was brutal but worth it ..
@scenic stratus so much fun
scenic stratus
NICE
faint owl
Need classic doom help
Is there a way to convert the midis into different sounds like this https://youtu.be/FpSLt6YGhOI
This soundtrack sounds crisp af
honest lynx
The malidict is tough af though I have to admit. And I went into the fight with 12 health
Luckly I had a ton of bfg ammo
But that fireball storm it does was brutal.
Time to move on to 64..
Feel empty in side now that I did everything on nightmare.. what do I do now ? Haha
faint owl
doom rpg mobile
honest lynx
Any idea how I can get that on android?
scenic stratus
well it was a java phone game right? i dont know if that would even work on android or ios
scenic stratus
it's weird nobody made a proper doom rpg 1&2 port on pc
wind yoke
It must return.
cunning gale
honest lynx
Someone get on that. I'm having fun running around my house with this phone doom vr though. Since I cant leave my house lol
There was an imp on my bed this morning
robust rover
Sleep Paralysis demon
sterile bane
I have all of the main Doom games except for Doom 3. Is it worth getting?
sterile bane
Not the BFG thing?
coral solstice
BFG Edition fucked it all up
sterile bane
I heard
sterile bane
Yeah I think I might get the base game. Seems fun and the Doom Eternal rewards for it are great
coral solstice
the 2004 version doesn't give you the skin
scenic stratus
the bethesda.net version does and that one is based off the bfg edition.
honest lynx
Oh shit... someone brought up bfg... dont get cheese started
scenic stratus
just FYI the original Doom 3 is still on Steam for only $5so you should get that one. I have both versions
scenic stratus
Yes
buy the original, red skin in eternal isnt worth it for a lesser game
(unless youre on console then you have no choice)
honest lynx
All I have is the speed run achievement for doom 3 and I'll get it platinum. Might just do that today haha
sinful marlin
When sergeant Kelly is remodeled for no apparent reason to look younger and have hair but the terminal vids still have his old mode 
lean pewter
sinful marlin
Vague answer then, it depends
Can’t say I’m not wearing nostalgia glasses for it, by today’s standards it’s a very average shooter
First half of the game is very slow, you won’t get all your weapons for several hours
Then you lose them all when you go to hell
Enemy introduction is inconsistent, most of them have cinematic intros but then shit like cherubs and archviles just appear
Cacodemon just shows up too
Story wise it’s ok, explains how scientists found out how to teleport but didn’t pay attention to the warning signs that it was a portal between dimensions as well
Your objective is really to just survive and eventually you’re the only survivor tasked with stopping the entirety of hell from invading
sinful marlin
Nah swan and Campbell die long before then
honest lynx
I mean the expansion characters
sinful marlin
Which sucks cause I liked their characters motivations to self sacrifice for the sake of humanity
We don’t talk about lost mission 
scenic stratus
but i liked it?
honest lynx
Lost missions was dope af
sinful marlin
Non canon as hell bravo team clearly got yeeted
honest lynx
Lol
scenic stratus
its literally the most action focused of the bunch
honest lynx
He clearly got pulled threw a vent and survived guys
sinful marlin
Roe was after doom 3
scenic stratus
too bad its in the B F G edition
honest lynx
6 months after I think
scenic stratus
its a solid year i thought?
honest lynx
Yeah orginal doom marine is probably in a psychiatric hospital
sinful marlin
I thought he was brought back honestly due to his experience with hell spawn, and his aged looked despite a year would make sense from the stress
honest lynx
I think he just feels like he lucked out
scenic stratus
in the start of roe the dude looks young but the artifact ages him
honest lynx
By the end
sinful marlin
Despite going to hell you never experience any of the hell psychosis the other marines did that went through
honest lynx
But he should have been the one to kill betruger
Apparently some got psychosis a d some didnt
sinful marlin
When you hold the artifact your hands rapidly age
honest lynx
One of the pdas explained that
The ones who got psychosis could get possessed as well
sinful marlin
Yeah most personnel became zombies after about a week from the hell exposure
Some took a little longer but the end was the same they all became zombies
honest lynx
What I want to know is how a chip is floating around in the doom 3 bfg
sinful marlin
The hell influence on the base drove some to suicide despite never going to hell
honest lynx
The guy who shot himself in the face with a plasma gun
honest lynx
Some demons came threw I think. They do mention monsters in the dig site before the full base invasion
sinful marlin
They did capture some demons but the others in the base could have been severe hallucinations
Seeing how demons are really aggressive idk if they’d bide their time like that
You know maybe the soul cube had some ability to protect while you were in hell so you didn’t lose your sanity
Funny thinking you had no interest in the soul cube and were just trying to destroy the main portal in delta and never would have found the cube if Betreuger didn’t jump the gun and send you to hell where it was
honest lynx
Well garlic got trapped in hell and he didnt go crazy he just got murdered haha
sinful marlin
Simon Garlic bread 🥖
sinful marlin
Thought lost soul like things ran throughout the base and possessed things, maybe dumb luck some people weren’t found
Some people theorize there were attempts to posses doom guy leading up to the vagary fight with the voices whispering to him and seeing red visions
sterile bane
Boy I sure do love Duke Nukem Forever
wind yoke
It's not a bad game, but boy, I hate that Octobrain boss. A lot.
honest lynx
Woooohooo I got the delta elevator glitch on my speed run lol
Looks like I'll redo it tmw
Such trash
Any other glitches you guys know about that I should back up save before? I dont want to run into anything like that tmw
?
honest lynx
I was at 1 hour 20 minutes too when I got to that part. The speed run was going well
sinful marlin
What glitch?
I’ve only ever seen nightmare speed runs with some very clever jumping
And avoiding basically all except mandatory fights
honest lynx
Well once you get to delta and have to restart the reactor. Theres a glitch that they never fixed where restarting the reactor doesn't turn on the elevator to get to the next floor. Moron me never did a back up save so I had to start over
It's been around since 2004 lol
And it ruined my day
honest lynx
Yeah I've never had the problem doing a regular run either so you are probably most definitely right. Hopefully it doesn't happen this time around
sinful marlin
You skip anything in he level? Could be missing a trigger
honest lynx
Nah I looked it up apparently it's a pretty famous glitch. Just not sure what triggers it
limpid fjord
Idk if this belongs in doom 3 but I’m watching that old ass doom movie, the good one and Jesus fuck WhAt Is ThIs*
limpid fjord
We can agree the first one is better obv
That ending scene where it has the pinky demon is 👍
scenic stratus
yeah despite me being ultra mad at the lore rework i had one smile during that movie and it was the first person sequence. If a proper doom movie is ever made it needs to be at least 60 percent first person. Some movies are full first person even.
But if i were to chose, doom should always only be told in game form.
sterile bane
So I originally asked if I should get Doom 3 but wht I should have asked was: Should I get Doom 3 in the ps4?
I play on ps4 and I was wondering if Doom 3 is good on this platform
scenic stratus
the 2019 version is pretty good. unless you have a pc and can get the 2004 original, buy it. however, do not go into it expecting doom 2016/eternal or doom 1/2, it is its own thing.
sterile bane
No ik the style change. It's like a horror game for the first half
scenic stratus
i like it and a lot of others do too. if you dont at least its a free skin in doom eternal if you link a bethesda.net account
sterile bane
Yeah I saw the free skin, it looks great but I think the game will be good. I'm not a super judgy critic for video games. I don't think I've ever bought a game I didn't like
But im not trying to go into it with my Hope's way higher than they need to be
honest lynx
I'm trying to get to delta under 1 hour 40 (veteran) anyone remember what hour mark is normal for delta one? I cant remember but I think its 2 hour 30?
honest lynx
Found out the delta glitch occurs if you try to activate the elevator before restarting the power.
sinful marlin
Emergency power only, all delta operations have been suspended
honest lynx
Almost there again. Let's hope I dont get it again
wraith barn
honest lynx
Got to hell in 1 hour 40 minutes. Not to bad haha
robust rover
In my first playtrought i go to hell in 7/8 hours, i think Doom 3 Speedrun is better for one thing, Speed on a Slow game
honest lynx
Shit 7 hours is proper though. I'm running past most unless it's required to open a door or something like that. I'm trying to beat the game in at least 6
I think I might in 7 though which I'd be happy with for my first speed run
robust rover
I finished Doom 3 in 10 h, and other dlc (5 Roe/5 Lost mission)
scenic stratus
What I've heard about this game is that it's not like Doom 2 or 2016 at all. Will I get bored if I'm expecting fastpaced shooting with powerful demon enemies?
coral solstice
it gets better about halfway through
honest lynx
Also play on veteran or even nightmare for an actual challenge which will make the game alot more fun. You arent a doom slayer. Your just a marine facing hell way over your head after the UAC first contact with hell. Go into the game with that in mind and you'll have a blast.