haha what if a demon spawned behind you when you grabbed an item.. unless? đł
#doom-3
rotund trench
graceful whale
Iâm debating if I should get that graham. It comes with multiple games right?
coral solstice
yeah, but IMO it's better to get regular Doom 3 and Classic Complete separately (if you're on Steam)
unique sky
graceful whale
Yeah Iâm on steam and was debating which bundles to get before the sale ends
coral solstice
Classic Complete comes with not just 1 and 2, but Final and Master Levels as well
not to mention that it's the full uncensored IWADs
rotund trench
doom 3 is less than $2 CAD on steam right now
coral solstice
regular Doom 3 is a bit different from BFG Edition, IMO BFG Edition kinda ruined the feel by making it too easy
rotund trench
so I'd grab the original doom 3
coral solstice
and also, regular Doom 3 has a lot of mods that BFG Edition isn't compatible with
honest lynx
Play on nightmare. Best way to play
graceful whale
Whatâs ultimate doom?
coral solstice
Doom 1 with an extra episode
graceful whale
Alright, I think Iâll get classic complete and doom 3. Thanks guys âşď¸
versed estuary
Isnât that extra episode thy flesh?
coral solstice
yeah
versed estuary
Thatâs in the rereleased doom 93 too
Does ultimate include the secret in e1m1 or no?
coral solstice
yeah
Ultimate Doom was released in 1995
when Doom 1 was originally released in 1993, it only had three episodes
scenic stratus
Hello
toxic talon
Anyone else have Doom 3 take FOREVER to download for switch?
analog needle
yeh
frozen nova
for some reason bfg edition is bigger download than the original
despite running on the same engine and having the same assets
slim rose
Well uh, bfg had 1 and 2 included. Thats at least one reason
frozen nova
does that include RoE and lost mission?
frozen nova
lost mission (mod) combined with RoE and the original game is over 3gb
slim rose
lol rip
its not even a big game xD
@frozen nova how big is the new game? Mine is 8gb, although it includes the VR mod so idk what goes on there
frozen nova
I dont have access to the bfg edition right now so I cant tell
wary rover
I gotta say, replaying Doom 3 after years, I always love the little sentry bots
toxic talon
38%
fossil owl
i reckon i might refund doom 3. not a big fan of it. it also runs pretty bad
toxic talon
40%
small turret
Ngl i didnât want to play 3 but after getting the chaingun and plasma itâs aight
proven zodiac
Plasma gun is op lol
bold trout
You should find patches and fixes if you go the original doom 3@fossil owl
I find it a pretty fun game,find some bug fixes and give the game another shot.
frosty holly
safe karma
I know how feels that, Raiiz!
You have to use your mapping memories
I wish doom 3 had a map!
honest lynx
Love that art style by the way
honest lynx
The best is when a doors locked and it only unlocks if you walk up to it so a commando can bum rush you
proven zodiac
Fr lmao I hate that shit
I made it to delta labs last night, how much longer until I beat the game?
safe karma
There was only one Hell level. Disappointing.
safe karma
But it was on Mars not other dimension where cavern is
slim rose
Theres literally fire and shit everywhere, and its called hellhole
honest lynx
Hell is creepy af... love it
safe karma
delta is more creepy than hell to me...
honest lynx
Man when you get into that third chamber and hear babies crying ...
safe karma
In 2004 I was scared when walking through Hell, until then I got used to
honest lynx
Nothings scary when you've got that sweet sweet plasma rifle hahah
safe karma
I know but just visual the hellscape
scenic stratus
I wonder if those baby flies from this game will return in Doom Eternal?
terse marsh
they wont
torpid sandal
Currnetly playin doom 3 for the first time. Itâs good, but I can see why most people didnât like it
Itâs a lot slower paced than the other doom games
small turret
I think people wouldâve liked it more if it was named something else
And also if the shotgun wasnât terrible
honest lynx
It's not terrible if you go right up to a demon and shove it up its bum
small turret
And if Rng is on your side
honest lynx
Use only a pistol. Like a real man
small turret
Use fist like a real man
small turret
Beat the game without killing any demons
honest lynx
You should.. chainsaw kills the cyberdemon if you keep using it on his legs. I swear... would Iie to you
proven zodiac
fervent crest
tbh I use the shotgun in this game more than any other weapon
it's slow firerate can be annoying at times but overall it seems to get the job done fairly quickly with the way I play
which is to take cover, peak and lure enemies into tight spaces
the assault rifle (smg? p90 thing?) I mainly use for a longer range or if those damn spiders start swarming over me
the plasma rifle I only use if I'm low on assault rifle ammo or if there's a revenant, since I find I can hit the missiles easier with the plasma rifle
but I barely notice the shotgun RNG
sometimes I may 1 hit an imp but most of the time it's just 2 shots and I go from there
scenic stratus
the lead art director of doom 3 also art directed halo 4 and 5
wonder what happened since art for doom 3>>>>>design of new halos
glossy widget
@thick dome Which part of DOOM 3 are you in?
thick dome
I dont wanna say cus I have a feeling its not far from the end
glossy widget
The betruger laugh is really one of the few
oh shit sounds imo
When you hear it, you know demons are around the corner waiting for you
proven ridge
lol the whole game is just demons in holes waiting for you
honest lynx
You forget about the baby cries when you go to hell
rancid bobcat
Making progress MARINE?
honest lynx
I was like nah
rancid bobcat
Making ProgRess??
honest lynx
Time for a drink
He really wants that soul of yours
Ohhhh... you'll get your product... wink wink...
bold trout
ThE bOaRd AuThOrIzEd YoU?
ThE bOaRd DoEsN't KnOw ThE fIrSt ThInG aBoUt ScIeNce
*** AlL tHeY wAnT iS sOmEtHiNg To MaKe ThEm MoRe MoNeY, sOmE... pRoDucCt.***
DoN't WoRrY, tHeY'lL gEt ThEiR pRoDuCt.
honest lynx
Doesn't sound evil to me... heres your funding betruger.. credits roll..
acoustic kayakBOT
Indeed!
honest lynx
The games just you walking around doing your work and living your life on the base
small turret
Chainsaw speed run is nice
bold trout
I'd like where no hell portal opens on the mars base
you just mess around with the ppl on the base and stuff,that would be a nice mod
little raven
It could be called boring doom
frozen nova
I have a better idea
play as the janitor who has to clean up after everything that happened in the game
ohwaitthatexists
honest lynx
^... feed the specimens time to time hahaha
bold trout
whats the mod called
bold trout
I've seen the santa one
proven zodiac
Same
fervent crest
Does choosing to call reinforcements or not impact the game in any way
scenic stratus
no because even if you don't Betruger calls the ships anyways
versed estuary
^
When you get to a certain point he goes like
Shame u didnât call, too bad I did it myself mwhahaah
slim rose
yeah no matter what its set up to screw earth
fervent crest
damn
for a second I was wondering if the game had 2 endings
or rather the same ending with everyone dead but the difference being if the ships were there or not
fervent crest
how do I get out of the way of those soldier demons with the long tenticle arms
if I sprint backward they hit me
if I dodge to the side they hit me
fervent crest
I see
honest lynx
Just when it swings
fervent crest
thank you
honest lynx
If you duck down just when it swings itll go over your head. A good shotgun hit or plasma blast will do the rest
No worries bro
empty token
R I P George Poota. The UAC will never be the same with out him, a true pioneer and visionary was lost.
charred fox
What a guy
honest lynx
So misunderstood
viral pebble
what the actual fuck??? i opened up the OG doom 3 and all of my saves and quicksaves are gone! completely deleted!
all that time i spent playing it on veteran and theyre just- fucking gone, deleted and i wasnt even the one who did that!
please tell me theres a way to fix this
honest lynx
Oof sorry to here bro. Sounds like a good opportunity to start a nightmare run
viral pebble
but i was a level or two away from entering hell on veteran XD
and no way in hell am i playing on nightmare mode, it drains my heath down to twenty five percent no matter what
honest lynx
Dont get hit
viral pebble
Ummmmm never mind, there werenât any quicksaves because I clicked on multiplayer?? When I rebooted doom 3 and NOT go to the doom 3 server all my saves are back
scenic stratus
don't get hit
Yeah, that sums it up really well 
viral pebble
Well I donât have to worry about nightmare anymore, apparently doom 3âs multiplayer servers fucks up your quicksaves
scenic stratus
That's why I play on original Xbox
viral pebble
They cut a lot of stuff out tho- the Xbox wouldnât be able to handle doom 3 as it was
scenic stratus
S'all good, as long as it runs.
And I don't lose my saves behind multiplayer bugs
viral pebble
heavy metal stops
proven zodiac
heavy metal gets heavier
scenic stratus
Gotta admit I love the Doom 3 opening song, it's a banger
proven zodiac
Fax
fallow ocean
scenic stratus
Mmmm my preferred platform, such a great game
viral pebble
I never heard of the doom franchise when I was a kid- I had halo, halo 2, advent rising and Ăon Flux on the Xbox back in 2005, along with other various games.
I found out about Doom when I saw the doom trailers in 2017 and bought it at second at Charles. After that a friend gave me a copy of ultimate doom
fleet mirage
is it just me or does the face overlapping the doom 3 marine's face belong to barney calhoun from half-life 2
nimble wren
that's exactly what it is
coral solstice
yeah, it's an edit Fabino made
vague temple
How is Doom 3âs multiplayer?
coral solstice
only tried it once and that was a real long time ago
and I've never thought to try it again because I can't find any occupied servers
nimble wren
very laggy, at least on BFG
vague temple
Nice
viral pebble
I tried doom 3âs multiplayer and literally every server it shows has no one in it
Is the multiplayer as bad as Quake Iv?
hazy path
What does doom guy look like in doom 3?
coral solstice
he looks like Kevin Cloud
honest lynx
He looks like a guy who regrets being transferred to Mars
viral pebble
Aight
Well I have the e3 demo for doom 3; why is it the demoâs console says to stop recording? I never used any streaming software to play it
nimble wren
e3 demo was meant for id to showcase the game
so it's probably related to that
honest lynx
As well as the new engine
viral pebble
Oh
That would explain why the enemies wonât do squat unless I walk to a certain position lol
nimble wren
yup, it's highly scripted
viral pebble
Dang. Cuz I broke the entire demo when I played it like I would with doom 3 XD
Sound effects kept getting reverbed, noclip is CHAOTIC when I go outside the map and most of the keys on my keyboard just messes with the engine instead of flashlight or weapons
nimble wren
that's e3 demos for you
it's only meant for a very specific set of actions, so it often breaks when deviating from those actions
viral pebble
And since this one was from 2002 it became SUPER broken when I played it normally Lmao
Wish I recorded it
Thereâs literally no video showing the gameplay, only like one or two
And like just two done by normal gamers
plush tiger
multiplayer on id Tech 4 is not good
I don't think a single id Tech 4 game had good MP
even the MP-focused Enemy Territory Quake Wars
the hell even was that
nimble wren
that's id tech 4?
plush tiger
huh apparently not actually
I always thought it was
Like they just basically remade Quake 3 in idtech 4 just so it supported newer hardware and features but nope
so yeah it's all not good MP-wise
nimble wren
ass confirmed then
nimble wren
so Raven somehow managed to make it not complete ass
small turret
Doom 3? More like doom pee
viral pebble
Lol
charred fox
Doom 2? More like doom poo
scenic stratus
What id tech are we on now?
restive delta
Eternal will be 7, the first game on it I believe
scenic stratus
Epic
rancid bobcat
Id Tech 7, now megatextures free!
tbh didnât work out well, I am sorry John you tried 
At least Doom 3âs lighting still holds up
broken frigate
What does doom guy look like in doom 3?
@hazy path find a mirror in game or google it
vague temple
Early 2000s render were cool as shit
little raven
The hell knight still looks cool
honest lynx
That's why they basically kept the hell knights design the same
plush tiger
That and it was probably easier to do that to differentiate them from the Barons
honest lynx
I'm saying the hellknights design is almost the same in the new games because it's just an amazing look for the knight. While all the other demons have changed
rancid bobcat
Beige barons are lame
honest lynx
Do not judge a demon by the color of its skin, but by the quality at which it tries to rip you a new one
rancid bobcat
.... its weak?
honest lynx
But it tries and that's what counts
Going to try an grow some balls today and finish my nightmare run tonight
halcyon carbon
He big meaty boi
honest lynx
He definitely lifts
dark knot
I like how doom 3 gives the demons more of a horror feel by making their colors more pale, and lifeless
honest lynx
Definitely gives you the you're way over your head and they dont pay you enough for this vibe
versed estuary
I need u to find a scientist
2 seconds later KILL EVERYTHING u see help reeeee
nimble wren
oh no it's a resonance cascade demonic invasion
versed estuary
All hail our king @stuck lion with his 32hour doom 3 campaign
versed estuary
Tremble in his presence
dark knot
Soky
No
dark knot
Not the lips!
dark knot
He didn't exist during doom 3
dark knot
Spider Mastermind on the other hand...
stuck lion
No spider mastermind is also surprising
acoustic kayakBOT
Indeed!
stuck lion
At least they had the cybo though it was a pretty lame fight
stuck lion
I wonder that too
It's so weird. It's like, sometimes its completely wide sometimes it's so tight
You miss the enemy by one mm you do no damage
And then sometimes it oneshots an imp from 10 meters away
Weirdest shotgun I've ever used
scenic stratus
I mean this is the same game where the grenades act like basketballs and can kill you more than the demons you aim at so...
stuck lion
True true 
dark knot
Oh, and fuck the damage rng on the shotgun
restive delta
Who needs Turkey Puncher when you can play basketgrenade 
honest lynx
There is no bad shotgun rng if you stick the shotgun up an imps ass
dark knot
What about when you one shot a revanent
rotund trench
one shotting the rev is so satisfying
tawny schooner
Itâs like the chore you were ready to spend all day on, but then didnât have to.
dark knot
Revanants aren't that hard, if you know how to use the plasma gun and aim for the head
fervent crest
Plasma gun gets easy revenant kills
honest lynx
Plasma melts demons like butter 
dark knot
Plasma gun in doom 3 is best plasma gun
proven zodiac
^
versed estuary
Best op gun with ammo everywhere
dark knot
Chaingun is good too
small turret
Fists are the only good weapon in 3
honest lynx
Beefy 
chaingun
nimble wren
I've never used the fists outside of berserk
I can't stand looking at them
the fingers
they're bent in way too much
dark knot
In doom 3 I've learned how to speed up to the enemy and dodge due to my overuse of the shotgun
Fists don't work with that tactic
visual osprey
real doom fans beat doom 3 with just the flashlight
dark knot
Oof man, it's kinda of a stretch to say real doom fans
(don't want to hurt the casuaaals feeeeeelings)
dark knot
By the wraiths!
scenic stratus
I do too
dark knot
This is getting out of hand, now there are TWO of them
scenic stratus
I know others
dark knot
This an avengers level threat
dark knot
Ok yeah legit that doesn't make sense
cursive socket
ik, a doom server where you cant say RIP AND TEAR!
dark knot
You type more than three words in all caps it's considered offensive or some shit?
dark knot
Now I regret backing up vega
cursive socket
i think that where doom 3 starts to really throw you into all-out combat is about the time when you meet the revenant
it's dumb how people compare this game to survival horror, it's not, it's action horror you dumbies.
dark knot
I know right?
And people discriminate the demons for not looking "doom" enough
Like what the fuck kind of sense is that?
cursive socket
ikr, doom 3 is REALLY good, people that are saying Doom the retribution is the TRUE doom 3 are the kinds of people that probably only played 5 minutes of doom 3, and on the awful bfg edition
dark knot
Well, BFG edition is the first doom 3 I played
I hate to admit
dark knot
But I can give i the credit of getting me hooked into doom 3
cursive socket
i wish we got something like it again, the only thing that i can really make a comparison of it to is... probably f.e.a.r.
just the early shading and stuff
and the goofy ragdolls
dark knot
Oh yeah, like how mancubi fly around when you kill em with a rocket launcher?
Pricless
dark knot
I don't understand how anybody couldn't! Even Mick Gordon himself loves it!
cursive socket
really fits the game, a little bit of horror and tension, then just breaking out into full on metal
dark knot
It's
P e r f e c t
cursive socket
t c e f r e P
unique vigil
r i p
cursive socket
and
dark knot
Tear
unique vigil
fĂŠlicitation !!
cursive socket
I'm SO FUCKING HYPED for Doom Eternal! man I'm just playing through all the games again, just getting myself even more hyped
dark knot
Same!
unique vigil
who doesn't here ?
dark knot
Oh, and does anyone have an MP3 of the doom 3 main theme
I can't find one anywhere ._.
cursive socket
i can get it for you
dark knot
Please
cursive socket
just sit tight
unique vigil
doing đľ
honest lynx
Going to try and finish up my nightmare run on lost missions.
I swear if one more commando bum rushes me from around a corner ..
scenic stratus
lost mission has been modded for classic doom 3 right?
because i dont want to play the BFG edition
a bit off topic but why does every console port save for the og xbox one base itself off the bfg edition?
Xbox version was made special for co-op campaign
Bfg is an amped up version of the original PC release
It's easier to port a PC game to other stuff than it would be to rework the Xbox version, so that's what they used
I mean how hard would it be to recreate the 2004 version on pc
broken trellis
"Going to try and finish up my nightmare run on lost missions.
I swear if one more commando bum rushes me from around a corner .."
I feel you there
Commando's have been an absolute pain when doing the harder runs.
cursive socket
doom 3 nightmare mode fists only
imagine punching a hell knight to death
and you can NOT beat the guardian like that, definitely..
oak violet
@broken trellis what is the damage of the commando in nightmare? i played veteran recently and they do like 40+ dmg in one hit
honest lynx
If the punching was more consistent it would be doable. But you swing around like a moron
Basicallya commando will one shot you if you dont use a soul cube in time or duck right away
You only have 25 health most of the time. Everything one shots you
oak violet
so they whip ur butt in notime. damn
honest lynx
It's for very advanced players for sure, you need to have your speed and movement down and have knowledge of the maps and enemy attacks
Not to jerk myself off or anything
oak violet
i think i will give it a chance
honest lynx
Its feels like a whole new game and the adrenaline rush is real
honest lynx
It is the same but you have almost no health other than temporary stations and soul cube boosts
slim rose
is there a mod to increase fist damage range?
honest lynx
1 Down 2 to go https://imgur.com/a/AarSFJM
scenic stratus
Where is DOOM 4?
dark knot
In the trash
Doom 2016 has far since replaced it
scenic stratus
anyone have any idea why doom 3 (classic) runs poorly on a more modern pc
small turret
Itâs too powerful
dark knot
It's too powerful compared to the other modern shooters
Some computers can only handle cod
scenic stratus
that actually made me laugh, thanks guys
dark knot
:D
fervent crest
I don't have performance issues with it
versed estuary
( ͥ° ÍĘ ÍĄÂ°)
honest lynx
What's cracking bob
scenic stratus
Theres screen tear and stutter :(
proven zodiac
Yo what up bob
versed estuary
Just studying. Tomorrow Iâll finally be able to finish RoE after my test
honest lynx
^ you know what comes next.. muahah 
versed estuary
Yeah gunna do nightmare Campaign thatâs what
honest lynx
You know it bro
scenic stratus
goodluck on the nightmare
fervent crest
hey if your screen is tearing and stuttering you can just say playing doom causes your entire computer to rip and tear
spring lotus
ispitoutmycola.
fossil owl
http://wasm.continuation-labs.com/d3demo/ this is amazing
its doom 3 but on your browser
versed estuary
Is it safe?
versed estuary
Hmm
Iâm about to see if i can run this on my ipad with touchscreen and a Bluetooth keyboard
fossil owl
oh its meant for pc
versed estuary
I was able to navigate the menu and rebind the options
fossil owl
oh ok
versed estuary
No sound?
Unless i was supposed to mess with menu stuff
Omfg it works
Touchscreen and Bluetooth keyboard wtfh
royal grail
Did anybody else shit themselves when they played doom 3 the first time
little raven
No
late compass
I tried to play it, but my computer was like "lol nah" crash
dark knot
Your computer must be a doom 3 boomer then
late compass
Sucks
rancid bobcat
I shit myself when I saw the spiderbot in the main hall and quit the game
... the shit didnât even hit the fan
little raven
I mean itâs a fine game it just isnât scary at all
rancid bobcat
It was very scary
When I was literally twelve
Now its just hilarious
All the new enemies makes me think of my cat when he is in playful mood and wants to assault my legs
heady vortex
Just finished doom 3 bfg edition on my 1-level per day day till Eternal. Now off to Doom 4
rancid bobcat
honest lynx
I think the hell knight looks cool af still though
If you want to play doom 3 with a little bit of fear on another playthrough. Play on nightmare. That oh shit I'm going to die feeling will come back quick
scenic stratus
Yeah. Most of the monsters in doom 3 looked pretty cool.
thick dome
I DID IT
I beat doom 3
as annoying as the game is a lot of the time I still really enjoyed it and got excited when each enemy was introduced
when cyberdemon came out I was like 
scenic stratus
Yeah, but the cyberdemon is a pushover in doom 3. Really sucked.
thick dome
nah he was ok
and bloody hell, is that glory kill in eternal a reference to this? he died in a very similar way
honest lynx
I've said this a bunch of times. If you're playing and you find yourself that it isnt exciting enough or it's to easy.. might be time for you to up the difficulty. Nightmare and veteran are night and day different
thick dome
I found it pretty hard on marine but doable
generally I really liked it and I dont know why so many people dislike this game
except for some aspects of gameplay
honest lynx
It's not for everyone but itll always have a place in my heart. Love every minute of it
scenic stratus
Oh I love doom 3 as well. I just remember the bosses were pretty easy.
thick dome
yeah bosses were pretty easy but still fun and I was like every time one was introduced
honest lynx
When you're on nightmare you basically only have 25 health and everything one shots you. Itll make boss encounters more intense times 10
honest lynx
I beat nightmare on lost missions last night and my heart was pounding the whole time.. and I've played doom 3 maybe 30 times by now lol
thick dome
is sarge the one that was talking to you near the beginning of the game telling you to hurry up to meet him?
honest lynx
Yeah
thick dome
damn
I assume he was possessed, but then some weird shit happened that transformed him and put him on a little tank thing
also I was wondering about that part shortly before his boss fight, when you walked in different areas it started playing little bits of music which seemed to be getting more intense but then that was it, idk why the majority of the game had no music like that though
honest lynx
I think he was just corrupted not possessed
Lost missions has a really intense heart beat music when shits about to go down.. it's crazy. Really loved it
thick dome
Im surprised with how many enemies/characters there are that they showed once then hardly ever again like for example pinkies I forgot even existed, the little robots with guns that are only in a few parts of the game etc
there is a lot of enemies in total
and damn that was a LOOOONG game
honest lynx
In the base game yeah. When you go to hell in lost missions you run into a room with 5 pinks at once which was really cool. Very rare in base though which is a shame
scenic stratus
Nice. I never played lost missions or the other expansion
honest lynx
Roe is cool. With the artifact it give you that FEAR feeling with the slow time
thick dome
does anyone ever play multiplayer?
scenic stratus
I think one of them had a gun that was basically dooms gravity gun.
honest lynx
Yeah roe and lost missions has that
You can throw back imp fireballs and all that
Pick up barrels and toss them at dudes
thick dome
soulcube is pretty cool but I cant tell if its op
scenic stratus
Cool. I need to try those out, but eh. Dont feel like playing doom 3 right now xD.
honest lynx
When you play nightmare you get the soul cube in the start right off the bat. It's a life saver. You have to know just when to pull it out
thick dome
oh wow nice
honest lynx
In roe you get the heart that slows down time
thick dome
it reminds me of chainsaw in doom16 except for health instead of ammo
honest lynx
"Use us".... amazing sound
thick dome
now I can finally watch more doom videos- oh wait still havent completed doom16 cus I still need a good pc 
honest lynx
You'll figure it out bro haha. Anyways good talking to you all. Off to class I go
elfin grove
i actualy enjoyed doom 3
mind you it takes me 5 seconds to go into its pk4 files and make the game play mutch like the og doom gameplay
rancid bobcat
oooh
Doom 3 is pretty rad in VR
I forgot that you can't put files directly here
bold trout
that's sick
honest lynx
Shout out to my boy poota!! RIP
thick dome
gougaru is it me or are you quite fast in that gif?
do you run faster in nightmare or something?
honest lynx
No man just maxed my sensitivity need to once you play nightmare
thick dome
oh you definitely look like youre running fast
honest lynx
There is a limited sprint function if that's what you mean?
versed estuary
Yay back to hell
versed estuary
Man this boss || dragon man lol|| wonât die
scenic stratus
Is it just me or did they make it darker in the newer console version?
versed estuary
@stuck lion so I beat RoE in 2 hours 50 min on veteran and I donât Sprint
I could have beaten this expansion pack 11+ times before u beat the campaign once
honest lynx
^ Good shit bob!
versed estuary
Itâs helllla fun, way better than story
scenic stratus
i love base doom 3 but damn roe is so good
versed estuary
Lol yeah better in like every way
Too bad it was only 2 hour 50 min long. It was so action packed
honest lynx
How did you guys like that FEAR vibe
scenic stratus
yes
versed estuary
Do u mean like the fear atmosphere or is that a reference to a game
scenic stratus
i just like bonking lost souls with flashlight
honest lynx
Fear game slow motion
versed estuary
Hmm never heard of it
honest lynx
Sent ya a link
versed estuary
Thx
stuck lion
@versed estuary I swear to god what kinda sourcery are you pulling
versed estuary
And I donât sprint Soky
And I donât sprint
And since I know u will be like where is yo proof
stuck lion
i m p o s s i b l e
versed estuary
Saved right near the end of final boss fight
stuck lion
I already have like, a few good hours in roe
versed estuary
Legit started Roe today and finished it
See I donât understand what people mean when they say doom 3 is slow
I play aggressive AF
stuck lion
My copy of doom 3 is one of those cursed game cartages people write reddit stories about
versed estuary
2hours 50 min. ON VETERAN too
stuck lion
Playing aggressively has never worked for me
versed estuary
So far that means Iâve barely milked 10 hours total from doom 3
Or roughly $1 an hour of playtime
stuck lion
Well I guess I got a lot of bang for my buck 
versed estuary
Lmfao
Soky like those old people trying to see how far they get on a single quarter in Pac-Man
versed estuary
Doom 3 still hands down of my my most favorite games of all time
versed estuary
My new revised list of most favorite games is
Doom 3
Metro 2033( which I have to buy in the switch now)
PokĂŠmon mystery dungeon red/blue
Deus ex human rev
Doom 2016
MH3U
All Yoshi games
By most favorite i mean I could sit there and just appreciate every little detail about the game and it never gets old
Like doom 3. After firing that ssg countless times it never gets old
scenic stratus
which is 1?
versed estuary
1?
versed estuary
hmmmm
If I had to be technical. Doom 2016
However I actually rate them as my favorite per type of game
scenic stratus
i do too tbh
versed estuary
MH3u is my #1 Rpg
But I love all monster hunter games
Deus is my favorite stealth/ talking game
And I hate stealth talking games
Doom 2016 favorite strategy shooter
Metro 2033 favorite story shooter
Yoshi favorite platformers
Doom 3 favorite âclassic shooterâ
I say âclassicâ but I just mean the fact that itâs an old game, but done so well
For one, itâs stupidly cheap for how much content u get, just ask Soky. He literally gets lost in the amount of content ( ͥ° ÍĘ ÍĄÂ°)
charred fox
Good taste bob my man
scenic stratus
i fucking love doom 3
charred fox
Same
dark knot
I don't see how some people cant
scenic stratus
i once saw a reddit comment pretty much exactly like this: "Doom 3 is a boring game without ripping and tearing"
dark knot
That
That makes absolutely no fucking sense
charred fox
Doom 3 has way more fundamentals than what people think tbh
dark knot
Indeed
I kinda hate some of the toxicity in some of the other doom communities
"Doom 3 isn't 2016"
"Doom 3 has bad pacing"
"Doom 3 has BAD GRAPHICS"
charred fox
Hate that saying
scenic stratus
sorry it doesnt hold up to todays standards
I hate it too lol
I like 3 more than 2016
if you count 1 2 and 2016 as "doom" then doom 3 is a bad doom game, still a fucking amazing game
slim rose
Hey look lets put it this way. If doom 3 wasnt ever made, d16 coulda been that game or worse
charred fox
Honestly IMO 3 and 16 share different aspects from classic doom in that 3 exaggerated the horror more where 16 amped up action and completely threw out any atmosphere
charred fox
Theyâre both still doom games but with different priorities
scenic stratus
i doubt it though
charred fox
Dude yeah
slim rose
the original doom 4 concept was already really bad. But they fixed it
scenic stratus
yep
charred fox
Hell feeling evil was something I didnât get from 16
scenic stratus
call of doom-ty
charred fox
Just kinda felt barbaric
scenic stratus
yeah
dark knot
I still consider doom 3 a doom game
But I can admit it's a black sheep in the series
scenic stratus
doom 3 reeks of satanism, perfect for the good old machine gun
charred fox
Yee
scenic stratus
i will admit, doom 3 has a fucking awful shotgun
dark knot
It really fucking sucks
scenic stratus
unless you are practically up the enemy's ass it does nothing
slim rose
Its an awesome shotgun! Just requires some....face to face contact with demons
charred fox
You have to kiss the demon
slim rose
^
scenic stratus
im fine with the shotgun, im fairly good with it. but it just sucks as a shotgun
charred fox
Or else the spread will perfectly outline your target
scenic stratus
yea
dark knot
In order to do shit ya got to stick it up and imps nose!
Now I have the habit of too much close quarter combat
scenic stratus
im glad doom 3 has gotten a bit more attention recently due to the new ports
too bad theyre based off the damn BFG EDITION AAHHHH
charred fox
Hell nah
slim rose
BFG is better for console. PC, get all da mods on the old one
scenic stratus
yep
charred fox
Yes
slim rose
Unless its VR mod i guess
scenic stratus
i suck with a stick so its fine to have the easier flashlight and vaults full of ammo
charred fox
Yeah itâs surprisingly comfy on PS4
scenic stratus
yep
charred fox
Except they forgot to enable sprint toggle in hell lool
scenic stratus
lying in bed with my switch playing doom 3 is fun as hell
charred fox
Oh fuck that sounds great
Honestly another thing I really like about d3 is the movement weirdly enough
It feels so damn responsive iunno
Bhopping lets you accelerate really fast in a split second
scenic stratus
yeah
my favorite thing in this game is the sound that plays when you bonk something with the flashlight
charred fox
Yes
scenic stratus
pink
charred fox
And when you smack a body twice it be like đ§
scenic stratus
yeeeas
charred fox
SPLAT
scenic stratus
i love gibbing the corpses with a single beat
charred fox
Honestly doom 3 had glory killing before 16
scenic stratus
i hate the bfg edition for removing that ability
charred fox
You just had to make a corpse
scenic stratus
i just want to bonk
charred fox
Oh fuck that explains why it didnât work
scenic stratus
i want flashlight in doom eternal
instant glory kill
to weaker enemies of course
charred fox
Yeah dude
We need a crucible skin
But itâs the flashlight
Hell he even turns on the cruicible like a flashlight anyways
scenic stratus
yeah
pearl eagle
completed Lost mission on nightmare today
scenic stratus
good job
scenic stratus
just a question, is lost mission a mod for classic d3 or do i have to play cursed edition?
like i heard someone made it
im not sure though
pearl eagle
its DLC
at least i think it is, i mean it comes already installed with the BFG edition
but if it started as a mod that would explain why the final boss is like the 2nd boss you fight in normal doom 3
scenic stratus
its exclusive to the bfg and console editions. just remember someone saying it was remade for classic doom 3
scenic stratus
Yes there's a mod that puts lost mission in classic
There's literally no reason to buy the newer versions except for the vr
honest lynx
Hell looks bloody wicked in lost missions though I just need to mention that. Love going on that boat
rancid bobcat
that's river Styx
little raven
I like boats
honest lynx
Then you'll love a lava boat. Only 6666.66
Yeah the guy who's supposed to collect your coin to cross the river styx is on vacation though. Sorry
charred fox
Holy shit boat in doom 3
slim rose
i forgot about the boat
lethal escarp
coin? guys, don't you know? Don't pay the ferryman ...!!!
boat
honest lynx
That scene was pretty dope. And then a room full of pinkies after which is nice since pinkies are all together rare in the first place
And a arch
Cool looking room in general actually
scenic stratus
why is it called lost mission? does it have beta levels?
honest lynx
Its about a separate marine that's got his own quest to shut down a teleporter in hell going on the same time as the base game
scenic stratus
ik what its about, the name just implies its more than that
honest lynx
Probably just because it sounds cool
honest lynx
I think adding a few missions though from different perspectives would have been cool . You just made me think of that
scenic stratus
i gotta play the alpha
honest lynx
Plug that shit In
scenic stratus
^
little gulch
lost mission was about bravo team before they got destroyed by wraiths i think
honest lynx
After and you're the last remaining marine
honest lynx
But then you wake up and merc rooms of them by yourself
scenic stratus
yep
little raven
What about roe
scenic stratus
wym
honest lynx
You get the artifact which is a heart that eats souls and let's you slow down time like fear so you can take the super shotgun and put it up demons asses
coral solstice
or you can just punch them to death provided you've already killed the Berserk Hunter
honest lynx
Punching in doom 3 just isnt as satisfying to me though.
little raven
The punch sounds like a salmi being hit against a wall
honest lynx
That's because it probably was
nimble wren
not to mention the fingers are bent all wrong
haughty bone
The boss fights towards the end were confusing at first go thru, the guardian especially
honest lynx
Just a soul cube and a few bfg shots nothing to worry about
scenic stratus
ik what roe means, i just wanted to know what it had to do with the current conversation
honest lynx
You tell em cheese
scenic stratus
Resurrection of evil
honest lynx
Rabbits on ecstasy
scenic stratus
Oh my bad thought you said idk what it means
coral solstice
honestly, I thought the Maledict was better than all of 2016's bosses
scenic stratus
Loved that boss
honest lynx
Dudes head is in a head bro
Felt like a classic good boss fight . Loved it
I honestly thought the mal ate me at the end for a second .. I was like .. what just happened.. imagine if that was the ending hahah
dark knot
The bosses in doom 3 felt like casual enemies, like the original doom
lethal escarp
uhu, yeah .... the spider demon and Icon of sin where so casual .. like any of the other Demons you killed ....
dark knot
Minus the icon of sin
The spider demon though
Appeared a little less often than the cyberdemon
In doom 2 that is
lethal escarp
In 2 yes, in 1 it was the end Boss ...
dark knot
True
I was thinking about doom 2 more than the original doom
Mostly because of doom 2's enemy variety
lethal escarp
but i think i get what you mean .. Doom 3 was ... eh .. different. Playing just a random marine ... it was like a different universe ..
honest lynx
Playing as a scared marine barley surviving and just being an average soldier facing the demon hordes is a unique feeling .. then jump to doom 2016 and you're the doom slayer .. night and day
lethal escarp
the addon, ressurection of evil, was alot better for me .. still not like the original ... but better than 3 basegame
honest lynx
Slow time was alot of fun
dark knot
I'm beginning to see the contrast between doom 2016 and doom 3
To be honest I could care less of the difference, I like to play both
coral solstice
I actually prefer the whole "just a man, and no more" thing Doom 3 did over 2016's Doomslayer shtick
classic Doom tried to go for the former, but it's not as obvious due to the game mechanics
honest lynx
That's what I take it for and if you think of it in that way you'll love it
Although I enjoy being a merciless demon slayer as well
coral solstice
it's a bit more obvious if you read the manuals
I just feel like 2016 warped everyone's perception of Doom
so now almost everyone thinks classic Doom was like that, when it was not supposed to be
dark knot
I agree, I find every doom has it's own theme
coral solstice
and because of that mentality, Doom 3 still gets hate for being "different"
and that's part of why I like 3 more
lethal escarp
original doom didn't realy give any background .. you where a marine, and you where a badass. Not the doomslayer, but definatly more than a regular recruit. A bit like Sarge in Quake maybe ....
coral solstice
because of the people that think Doom was always about being the ultimate badass
dark knot
I like 3 because it plays well, the pacing is top notch
So is the level design
And environments
lethal escarp
in a way classic DooM was about becoming the ultimate badass ....
coral solstice
well, to be more specific, everyone thinks classic Doom was about being the ultimate badass 24/7 like 2016
honest lynx
If you think about it , in doom eternal , back on earth. Those soldiers are probably up against the demon invasion alot more like you in doom 3... way over your head and scared shitless
coral solstice
I certainly hope Eternal's DLC campaigns go that route
lethal escarp
i realy hope they actually do campaign DLCs ... those where promised for 2016, too before release ...
rotund trench
no they never promised campaign dlcs for doom 2016.
and campaign dlcs are already confirmed for Eternal.
honest lynx
I'm sure they will the collectors edition I got says it comes with both so that would be false advertising
lethal escarp
The collectors edition on the behtesda store doesn't mention any DLCs ...
And yes, in interviews pre-launch of doom 2016 the devs talked about dlcs
planned for 2016
lethal escarp
damn ..... and it explicitly says "campaign dlc 1+2" .... 
rotund trench
nope they never mentioned dlc for doom 2016 singleplayer, only multiplayer.
lethal escarp
I ordered it without knowing that đ
scenic stratus
im going to preorder the standard edition soon, im too broke for the super epic slayer helmet that i would kill someone for
honest lynx
That things not coming off my head for a very long time
scenic stratus
then i shall behead you
honest lynx
Hahhahaha made me picture that
scenic stratus
i would spend like 200 dollars or whatever if i had the ability to
lethal escarp
i just hope its big enough ... i'Ve seen helmets from other games that .. well where flimsy and small .. i also have a rather large head (mostly air in it đ ) so.... yeah i hope it fits.
scenic stratus
same my head is big
honest lynx
Let me tell you I havent preordered in many years... but when I saw that.... I busted out that money so fast
lethal escarp
i ordered the day they announced it ....
haughty bone
I want that helmet
thick dome
is collectors edition gonna stay up for sale? or is it a limited time thing
cus I would love one of those helmets
limpid carbon
would doom 3 totally kill my eternal boner if i tried to squeeze it in before launch. I never finished it when it came out
lethal escarp
@thick dome i think it is limited. On the EU store, the CE is sold out, but i dont know if they will restock.
scenic stratus
@limpid carbon nah, it's still doom, just a different take on it. "The way id always wanted it but were limited by technology"
limpid carbon
I don't think doom 3 was the way they "always" wanted it it was an entirely different game
scenic stratus
That's literally from an interview with id at the time
limpid carbon
I think that is something you say when you have a new toy.
The first two games were blisteringly difficult on harder settings and faster than almost any game after.
They might have wanted to accomplish what they did with 3 all along, but what you are saying means that 1/2 were many to be slower paced, corridor horror games. And I don't believe that to be the case
scenic stratus
It's still a run'n'gun fps shooter, but with the new tech (at the time) they were able to make dark rooms really dynamic, and add in much more realistic graphics and such. Less power-ups and more story was what they wanted.
It might not have been the best by comparison, but that's cause '16 blew 3 out the water and shot it with a rocket.
Hindsight
limpid carbon
So you think that most of 1/2 was meant to be a dark timid silent hill type affair, because thats how it felt.
like i said, when new technology comes out, people retroactively view their old projects and confused "if would have been nice to have this then" with "this is what we wanted all along"
scenic stratus
No no, but og Doom is full of jumpscares. It's more scary though because it's a legit hoard of monsters, where Silent Hill is more personal encounters. Rarely do you find a room full of manaquins after a switch is pressed, ya know?
thick dome
tbh I wish berserk was more than like twice in the whole game, its really fun
limpid carbon
true true. Again, i dont think doom 1/2 were ever meant to be like doom 3
if anything, 2016 is what they always wanted, and it is nothing like doom 3
which further points to the "what we always wanted" thing being a bit of a farce
scenic stratus
That's what I was gonna say. Times and tastes change
limpid carbon
my argument is that in 92 they never imagined doom 3
if anything, they imagined 2016, but went in a new direction with 3
it seems like they tried to retroactively tell the story with doom 3. lots of preamble and setup. where really, (as they found in 2016) we just want to rip tear
scenic stratus
Maybe
If anything '16 just happened to be the game the newer team wanted. Gotta remember there's a lot more staff at id now, not just the humble small team that started it. The story and gameplay has very much evolved over all that time
Maybe Eternal was the game the always wanted to make, who knows. We're just arguing semantics of an interview of someone who probably changed their mind years later.
limpid carbon
lol this is very true.
it is still crazy to this day what they accomplished so many years ago
scenic stratus
Absolutely, each big game was able to bring something cool to the table
plush tiger
If Id had the tech or design foresight, Doom 1 would absolutely play more like Doom 3
In the same vein that Wolfenstein 3D was supposed to be a stealth action game with uniform changing and corpse dragging
Those id boys were really thinking ahead of the curve
Doom was supposed to be a licensed Aliens game at one point
And Doom 3 is a lot closer to that in the final release of Doom
Hell, even the prospect of them wanting to do a game like 2016 but never could is really far off since Doom itself kept changing style and gameplay mechanics right up until the game's release
mainly because Doom had such a short development time they basically kinda had to go crazy with some corner cutting
It's kind of a miracle how fleshed out Doom ended up being for a game made in such a short amount of time with a small amount of people and with so many aspects being changed over said time
brisk hedge
Iâve just spent 2 hours playing Doom 3 on Nightmare and I immediately regret everything
red swan
limpid carbon
@brisk hedge why
honest lynx
Playing on nightmare is one of the most intense playthroughs I've ever done on doom 3 .Whole other game and loved every second of it.
brisk hedge
Itâs so damn hard
coral solstice
Itâs not even remotely fair, just like classic Doomâs Nightmare mode
honest lynx
Dont get hit. Learn the rooms. Keep moving. Know when to use the soul cube or artifact. And you absolutely need to know when the commandos are going to rush you. I have to tell you, anyone who says doom 3 is to slow and not adrenaline rush enough hasn't played on nightmare.
charred fox
@limpid carbon Very very late reply but doom 1 was indeed going to be a bit more narrative focused like 3
The whole ârip tear fastâ thing is more of a stereotype brutal doom and the comic started imo
And even then doom 1 still kept horror elements
I wouldnât have doom 1 any different than how it is today, but 3 is very much a doom game still. Itâs not a silent hill type game at all
honest lynx
^ preach brad ... 100 percent agree
charred fox
Thanks bro
granite peak
Doom but the demons are silent hill style monsters
scenic stratus
And just saying, nobody back then had anything to do with doom 2016
So that that's what they were going for is kinda silly reasoning
I must ask, which is better to start off with: dhewm 3 or Doom 3 perfected?
scenic stratus
oh
coral solstice
in the way that it's poorly coded and unbalanced garbage
scenic stratus
completely different experience
brutal doom isn't poorly coded and unbalanced... is it?
coral solstice
I remember PD3 corrupting its own quicksaves
scenic stratus
oh yeah that happened to me a few times
coral solstice
yes, Brutal Doom isn't that well coded, it's something YandereDev would be proud of
and it's either too easy or too hard, no inbetween
scenic stratus
I heard project brutality (at least the stable 2.8 version) is better coded
coral solstice
3.0 is even better
it no longer uses BD as a codebase and is reworked from the ground up in ZScript
scenic stratus
I tried 3.0 but for some reason it gives me some sort of error message about rendering and I can't screenshot it so I can't show it to the PB 3.0 discord server to help me fix it
So whats the difference between vanilla doom 3 and Dhewm 3 version?
Is it like GZdoom and eduke32 that adds more rendering options and gameplay features?
Brutal doom's code is a mess lol. There is or was some racist stuff in the code as well
yeah the voice actor for the guy who did the comic one liners in v21 beta had some racist lines or something like that
coral solstice
@scenic stratus Dhewm3 has better widescreen support
scenic stratus
anything else?
coral solstice
that's it
scenic stratus
literally no other features
coral solstice
and I think it's actually incompatible with most mods for 3
scenic stratus
it is I remember that
coral solstice
I think Doomguy's VA in BD didn't really do anything that bad
in fact, I remember reading about him threatening to split from the project if the racist comment in v17's code wasn't removed in the next release
scenic stratus
oh yeah. then he went to go work on project brutality instead
coral solstice
yeah
coral solstice
for one thing, the creators of PB aren't total dickwads
coral solstice
BD's creator even once attempted to put images of real gore into the mod, that's how shitty he is
scenic stratus
brutal doom isn't as cool as it used to be
but it is compatible with a lot of mods
which is why people still use it
It wasn't the voice actor. It was racist code regarding the plasma gun
I mean, compared to 3.0 PB, brutal doom is just child's play
coral solstice
IIRC BD was originally a test for another thing Mark was doing, a MegaWAD/mod called Armagedoom
scenic stratus
speaking of which, has a stable version of PB 3.0 been released yet or is it still in beta?
coral solstice
don't think so
scenic stratus
nope, just checked the discord server
honest lynx
Why did they get mad at wolf ??
boreal adder
Probably because it puts their beloved nazis in such a bad light
'cuz the nazis totally didn't do evil things themselves đ
austere hamlet
they tweeted about killing nazis once
and the assholes crawled out the woodwork all pissy
scenic stratus
I used to know a guy who had ss bolts tattooed on his chest and somehow wolfenstein was his favorite game lmao
granite peak
Maybe he was being ironic about it
scenic stratus
He wasn't...
granite peak
Welp i'm as confused as you are then
boreal adder
If he was, I'd say he didn't know what irony meant...
austere hamlet
nazis are just that stupid sometimes
scenic stratus
Yep
austere hamlet
you hear about nazis that like punk getting mad that these bands are getting political sometimes, and the bands are like "we hate you anyways? fuck off maybe"
boreal adder
Sometimes I get the idea the nazis are more like: "I hate everyone else, and I want everyone else to tell me that's okay."
austere hamlet
some people just lack critical thinking and its sad
boreal adder
Even beyond everything else they do, that's a remarkable lack of self-respect
austere hamlet
I think that a decent chunk of them are like that
boreal adder
Probably
granite peak
"Everyone that isn't like my idealized version of me should die" is basically the gist of it
austere hamlet
some are probably just real entitled too
scenic stratus
Getting pretty off topic here but in my experience they're just totally ignorant to the point they believe all the propaganda those white supremacy sites put out
coral solstice
I feel like we should stop, this feels a bit too political for this server
scenic stratus
Yep
boreal adder
Otherwise, they wouldn't care about a game made for those people they think should die
Oh, agreed. Stopping
granite peak
Anyway project brutality seems like something i wanna check out
honest lynx
What's stopping you bro
granite peak
I'm not at home
honest lynx
That'll do it
vestal epoch
I always found this game to be the hardest.
scenic stratus
I didnt
this game is rather chill compared to say Doom II on UV
or worse
PLUTONIA
low tangle
dark knot
Oof
fervent crest
alright, who decided baby wasp things would be good
dark knot
John carmack
scenic stratus
Only bad thing about doom 3 is the crappy RNG shotgun
That thing never worked like its supposed to
Where's my point blank range one shit kill goddangit
carmine sonnet
Agreed, not a fan how you cycle through weapons either. Feels clunky, leastâ to me
Then again I only play Doom 3 on console, so that may be why
rancid bobcat
also armor which is nigh useless
it never fell down below 100 in my playthrough
not because I am gud
its because I just took 99hp damage while armor is at 124
carmine sonnet
Meh, armor is sort of pointless, you could play without it and it wouldnât affect much of your gameplay
thick dome
at least with shotgun if the point blank doesn't kill an imp I whip out the pistol and finish them off with one shot it's really satisfying and looks badass
plush tiger
I feel like the machine/chain gun are the way to go
Since they have like, 100% accurate shots every time
proven zodiac
Plasma gun >>>>>
plush tiger
Chain gun betterer
scenic stratus
plasma gun is fun but it runs out of ammo so quick
honest lynx
The plasma just melts every demon you see , honestly cheeses the game. I love it but I also try not to use it to much
rancid bobcat
ooooh you never run out of ammo for plasmagun in BFG ed 
and if you think you do, BAM 500 cells right around the corner
honest lynx
Oh man its sounds so cool though when you reload . Got that as my ringtone right now.
carmine sonnet
BFG edition is a bit too easy tbh
honest lynx
But yeah you go Into a room and you just destroy everything in your path with that thing. Kinda ruins the experience
But at the same time I love it... so I'm torn lol
rancid bobcat
it humiliates revenant, that's how it was a love at first trigger pull
honest lynx
Literally blow those rockets up in their faces
honest lynx
Something about using that chaingun though... the sound it makes when you're throwing down bullets
fervent crest
I never see the shotgun as a one shot
sometimes I get a 1 shot and I'm like "oh cool" but I always prepare for a 2 shot
tawny hearth
Which doom 3 monster reveal do you think is the best, I personally love the revenant's
@fervent crest Same
fervent crest
either revenant or the baron
nimble wren
you mean hell knight
there aren't any barons in 3
fervent crest
tawny hearth
Yeah
fervent crest
he tries to punch me and throws green magic
he maybe a knight in game but in my head he's a baron
rotund trench
thats the doom 3 hell knight
tawny hearth
Yeah
nimble wren
barons and hell knights were very similar in the classic games
just a difference of health, really
maybe you're thinking baron because the Doom 3 hell knight seems more like the classic baron in terms of beefiness than the classic hell knight
versed estuary
Doom 3 knight best version of knight
scenic stratus
Both hell knights and barons punch and throw green shit though, not sure why you'd jump to the conclusion that makes it a baron
nimble wren
exactly
scenic stratus
There was a baron planned for doom 3 but it among other demons was cut
fervent crest
knights in 2016 can't throw green shit
and 2016 is the one I played first out of all dooms
so that's what I was comparing this too
scenic stratus
2016 is a reboot, it changed a lot
boreal adder
burn Broodles
fervent crest
hey calm down I wasn't even born when the first games came out
boreal adder
burd broodleses at the skate
fervent crest
