#doom-3

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viral pebble
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Yeh- the commando zombies had a cool voice and lines

coral solstice
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Trent Reznor did the sounds and music for the alpha

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previously he did the sounds and music for Quake 1

viral pebble
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That explains it- the commandos were the coolest thing in the demo

slim rose
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these animatins are pretty janky

viral pebble
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It was from 2002

frozen nova
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you can mod that back in

fierce skiff
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@viral pebble
oh and if you wanna play the demo from start to finish you can do map e3/intro

frozen nova
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I prefer not to though, too cheesy

viral pebble
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How do I do that?

frozen nova
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what?

viral pebble
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How do I select map e3

frozen nova
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open console

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map e3/intro ?

versed estuary
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Opened my Xbox. Now what

frozen nova
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now shit inside it

versed estuary
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It worked thx, I can level selectnow

fierce skiff
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How do I select map e3
@viral pebble
you can open the console
then type in map e3/intro

frozen nova
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then press enter

fierce skiff
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then press enter
@frozen nova
oh yeah can't forget that

versed estuary
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Then Alt F4

frozen nova
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@fierce skiff believe it or not ive seen some dumdum babybois who dont know to do that

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how do I install mod, fortnite dont have mod

pallid marsh
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wait this isn't free v-bucks

frozen nova
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I was in highschool mandatory computer class, and there were some kids (girls mostly) that didnt know how to open folders

versed estuary
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Easy. Use both hands, lift one side of the folder open

frozen nova
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Teacher: "Double click on it"
dumdum: "How do I double click?"

fierce skiff
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Then Alt F4
@versed estuary
oh and then get a hammer, hit your pc, shit on it, piss on it, pour gasoline and set it on fire
geez people keep forgetting the steps

versed estuary
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A bit extreme but ok

static summit
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Oh man

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The leaked alpha

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I spread that thing like crazy on IRC back in the day, lmao. There was actually two versions floating around at one point, the as-leaked files and one with a config file I tweaked to run better

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So if you played one where the arrow keys moved you instead of wasd, that was mine :-p

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(plz don't kill me, id guys, I was only a kid)

nimble wren
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why did it have arrow key movement

static summit
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I prefer that over wasd, I map the commands I need to keys like delete and shift

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And yes I am aware that makes me a mutant freak

dark knot
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Nah, I also prefer arrow keys, despite me being left handed

frozen nova
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I prefer the numpad to move and wasd to aim

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nothing beats bullshit descent controls

left rose
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cool cinematics moments, why remove it? Or making only the E3 trailers?

frozen nova
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some of those are still in the game tho

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this is a better trailer

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in fact this is one of the best directed game trailers ever

brave oxide
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hello, today i end a сampaign on veteran

static summit
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Yay

frosty holly
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Hey uhm... does someone know how to extract the sound files from Doom 3 BFG Edition?
I searched for a while but the IdTech4 File unpacker doesnt work bcause the BFG Edition has no .PK4 files

scenic stratus
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Wasnt there a doom slayer?

pallid marsh
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As an IT guy, watching people who don't know anything about computers use computers is both hilarious and soul-crushing

frosty holly
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?

pallid marsh
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I'm on about Super talking about those girls who can't open folders lol

frosty holly
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What does this have to do with Doom 3?

pallid marsh
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Ask him, I'm just adding on to it lol

frosty holly
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oh now i get it lol spooky fail...

safe karma
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Quake 3 Console!

devout pier
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@frosty holly Try "extractresourcefile _sound_pc.resources base/sound_pc"

rancid bobcat
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Just beat doom 3 on ps4

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I still don’t understand what designers were thinking plastering all that cell ammo everywhere

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In og you get plasma rifle from “plasma mom” Theresa Chazar’s locker

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But in bfg the plasma rifle is just

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Right before her office

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Anyhoo 6,5 hours, not bad

restive delta
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Where is this plasma you're talking about? But anyway, you can get plasma in Alpha 3 and 4 anyway in OG

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Six and a half hours is pretty fast for a console run I'd say

rancid bobcat
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I found it in a room right before Lost Souls reveal, blatanly thrown on top of a crate with a lot of ammo

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I play doom3 a lot but I still get confused and get stuck in some levels and I still scored 6 hours 30 minutes

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"speedrun" requires beating the game in less than 10 hours

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ha

restive delta
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I guess I was going too fast last time and missed that

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I'm up to Monorail on my re-release run, 2 hours 50 in so far

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Not really sure what percentage through that is to estimate. But I'm going through faster than I normally do

rancid bobcat
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you're halfway, roughly

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past halfway

sweet adder
rancid bobcat
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think I am going to do The Lost Mission right now

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before I feel burnt up

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what I love about Doom 3

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is how half of my encounters is me crouching from enemy attacks

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tentacle commandos eat crud this way

viral pebble
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A friend of mine in this server, Intrusted, wants to try doom 3 but he doesn’t have the money. Any of y’all know where he can find a free copy of the OG doom 3 and resurrection of evil?

viral pebble
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Like a link or something?

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He doesn’t have the money, whoever said that

scenic stratus
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The problem there is it's only sold on steam. If it was on gog I'd totally help ya out

viral pebble
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For all I know this link could be unreliable

versed estuary
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Oof posting “free” game links.

viral pebble
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Sorry
I was trying to ask if this link was legit wasn’t trying to give out games

scenic stratus
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That's piracy, my boi

mellow drift
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[Everyone disliked that]

scenic stratus
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XD it's not even the BFG edition that has RoE (which has the best Hell imo)

viral pebble
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Sorry, I’ll delete it

viral pebble
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Done

rancid bobcat
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beat Lost Mission

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1 hour 40 minutes

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the techbase stuff is a bit of a schlep

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with lotsa copypasting everywhere

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but hell is beautiful

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maybe a bit easy

viral pebble
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When did lost mission come out? It seems kinda plain

rancid bobcat
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2012

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as an exclusive to BFG Edition

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the techbase IS plain

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but hell is nice

scenic stratus
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I liked the 2 Hell levels but the story was confusing and made no sense to me

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like what did that guy do if there were 2 portals in the overall story

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one was the hell hole and the other was a old Marsian portal so what was the threat in Lost Mission

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Roe is a standalone game. You don't need bfg to play it

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I have the original disc on a shelf here

viral pebble
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What flamey said what IS the threat/story in lost mission,

scenic stratus
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yeah because the original guy stopped the main threat which was still chronologically AFTER the Lost Mission marine stopped the portal in the Hell castle so what was the point

rancid bobcat
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... shutting down a super secret portal that could leak to Earth?

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didn't pay much attention, honestly

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now, one thing I really don't like in doom 3, other than the RNG shitgun

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.. my armor never dropped to 0 on Veteran

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because it's USELESS

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I am at worst dropped to 5hp while armor chipped away from 125 to 120

scenic stratus
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I hated the PDAs a lot more because it's something you have to use... like there are lockers with powerful weapons early in the game. However, you need to listen to each audio log for 3 minutes for a 3 digit code

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also I found out the hard way reading them doesn't pause the game because monsters can still go into the room after you while reading lol

boreal adder
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I think what they said in lost mission was that the experimental portal could have reached earth

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But the story was pretty much a condensed version of half life blue shift with just a few changes anyway

scenic stratus
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So if the portal in Lost Mission could reach Earth, why didn't Betruger use that rather than call for reenforcement ships

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to reach earth

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yeah I enjoy Lost Mission but it ruins the original campaign if I think about it too much

unique sky
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So say I wanted to get Doom 3 on Steam, should I get the normal version or BFG version?

nimble wren
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depends on your personal preference, really
I got the BFG edition because I knew I'd prefer the mounted flashlight

scenic stratus
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I'm on PS4 so I never got the luxury of choosing lol

nimble wren
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"Rather than offer you the illusion of free choice, I will take the liberty of choosing for you..."

restive delta
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@rancid bobcat That's fast for a first playthrough. But yeah the base stuff had some real copy-paste from the main campaign, just touched up a few bits here and there and changed some colours

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As for the portal thing, I'd have to listen to all the stuff again, especially the Dr. WhateverHisName that opens the portal for you, since he leaves a disc explaining some stuff

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Which, I might add, was stupidly quiet, so I could barely hear it over ambient sounds

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Anyway I seem to recall that for some reason that portal was abandoned for the main Delta one, because that was progressing faster in terms of the experimentations. Yet it was still a threat for some reason.

viral pebble
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I have the BFG on the Xbox 360 (2011 model) and the original version on my laptop

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I honestly like the OG better, even with the stupid no duct tape on mars thing

restive delta
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But yeah thinking about it, it doesn't much much sense - the "demons" captured the Exis teleporter, so why would Betruger not use that to go directly to Earth, instead of using the main Delta teleporter and then after the Hell Hole?

frosty holly
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@unique sky The OG. I dont like the BFG Edition

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It needs a few tweaks to run in widescreen but google is your friend there
The BFG Edition has so many thinks i dislike
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viral pebble
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Eh the BFG’s good, it was what I was introduced to for doom 3. I just like the OG for nostalgianess

frosty holly
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Watch the Video, than you understand my point :D

nimble wren
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like I said, it comes down to personal preference
GmanLives prefers the original, and it shows in that video

viral pebble
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I personally prefer OG

frosty holly
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the biggest annoyance for me is the flashlight thingy

viral pebble
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In the OG version yeah, but you’ll get used to it

nimble wren
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the flashlight seems to be the most divisive factor, and is often the main reason behind everyone's preference

viral pebble
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Not for me lol

frosty holly
viral pebble
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Noiiiiiice

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I still have my old shareware copies of doom I and II

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My dad bought them in the 90s and gave them to me to play in 04

frosty holly
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i would kill for the original Versions of Doom 1/2

viral pebble
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You’d be lucky to find one online

restive delta
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Right, taking a look on some wikis, it seems that Betruger couldn't wait for the Exis teleporter to be completed because Swann was arriving, so he had to use the Delta teleporter instead. So basically through hacking files, Meyers learned of Betruger's plan and wanted to overload the Exis teleporter, but the Mars invasion happened before he could. So the Exis teleporter was a potential threat that needed to be shut down to ensure a direct invasion to Earth could not happen. Still doesn't really explain why Betruger couldn't focus his efforts to the Exis teleporter once he started the invasion, since part of the Exis teleporter was in Hell by that point, and the Bravo Team marine managed to destroy it by overloading it, so presumably it could be operated

viral pebble
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Who wrote the story for doom 3 again?

frosty holly
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Matthew J. Costello @viral pebble

viral pebble
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Wait what’s that link?
Also thanks kekz

frosty holly
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Doom from John Romero the godfather and imperator himself :D

viral pebble
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Damn, this would’ve been a lot easier for my dad lol

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He had to call for his copies

frosty holly
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i wish i could afford it doomcry

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1.500,00€

viral pebble
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What’s that in American money?

frosty holly
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1.625,99

viral pebble
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dayummmmm

scenic stratus
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@restive delta so basically the Lost Mission marine saved earth from being invaded and the original Doom 3 marine saved Mars from being invaded... they are both heroes for the same invasion, that's actually pretty epic to think about

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I didn't like the RoE marine because all he did really was start things back up again, he fixed a problem he caused

heady vortex
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finished lost mission, now on RoE for my 1 level per day till release

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I think the Guardian from Lost mission is a better boss fight than the dumb seeker thing in the main campaign

scenic stratus
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nah it was too easy imo, all it took was 3 charged BFG shots and it died instantly

heady vortex
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gaurdian took 6 shots and was still chasing me.

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in fact I think I hit him 10 times before switching to dbl barrel

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I also died once because i suck with a controller

scenic stratus
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I felt like the only boss that was difficult for me was the guardian from the original game, everything else was ridiculously easy for me to beat

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because by that time you should have gotten so many rockets and BFG cells

heady vortex
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hmm, it was like 2 rocket shots to his blue whatever was all i needed. hardest boss fight is sabaoth I think

scenic stratus
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yeah that BFG thing is horrible when airborne

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does damage when it's up there because of the tracing technology

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and if you shoot it you could kill yourself if too close (I did this twice somehow lol)

fading summit
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any tips for doing doom 3 on nightmare?

scenic stratus
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for nightmare your HP goes down to 25 but you start of with the soul cube to negate that

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so only use it on the shotgunners and that tentacle commando because the cube instakills anything in it's way

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and regains you to 100 HP

fading summit
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jesus, chaingunners are gonna be worst then hell then

scenic stratus
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yeah it'll only take 4 hits and you die if you're at the bottom 25 by then

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if that's the case just hide by a wall corner and use the soul cube

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it will fly to the nearest target

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OH and it goes without saying archvilles should be prime examples on who to use the cube on, in later levels it can sometimes summon hell knights

fading summit
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fuk

versed estuary
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I hate how chaingunners are smart. They chase u hella hard

wind yoke
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Zombie Commandos?

scenic stratus
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yeah they are so annoying that's why I always hug a wall and chip at their health till they die... and sometimes I let the sentry bots do all the work

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the sentry bots don't get the respect they deserve tbh they are the GOAT of Doom 3

nimble wren
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even in a normal game, I use the Soul Cube on archviles if I can

wind yoke
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Also, just in case you don't know; there are absolutely no medkits on Nightmare. It's the kind of skill level that makes you feel absolutely hopeless.

slim rose
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theres no. medkits?

wind yoke
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NONE.

slim rose
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Ok lol

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I hated the medium difficulty of Doom 3 already

coral solstice
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not even remotely fair, just like classic Nightmare

scenic stratus
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the good news however is that there's a good amount of health stations in between levels and you have the soul cube to keep regaining HP

wind yoke
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Yeah, the health stations still work.

fervent crest
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At least classic nightmare is fun, to a degree

wind yoke
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But considering the draining health and the high amount of damage enemies deal, it won't help much.

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At least there's no permadeath in Doom 3.

fervent crest
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Yeah the permadeath is annoying

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Especially since it takes your weapons away as well

wind yoke
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Is Doom 3 easier in the BFG ediiton?

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I think it is.

coral solstice
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too easy

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BFG Edition even cuts out an entire area or two

wind yoke
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I guess beating Nightmare in the BFG edition isn't that much an accomplishment then? I have beaten it, and can show the achievement as proof, but...

restive delta
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@scenic stratus Well kind of, but considering Betruger was going to get to Earth by using ships of the fleet that was called in, the DOOM 3 Marina still saved Earth in a way

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As for the bosses, you could cheese them anyway. If you charge a full BFG just after entering the Guardian of Hell fight, hit it, then use a few rockets, it will go down before the seekers are launched

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And for the Sabaoth, I believe if you can hit its first BFG shot it'll cause it massive self damage, and you can then finish it off with the Soul Cube instantly

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Not something I've done successfully, but nonetheless, if you use the Soul Cube anyway I don't think it takes many rockets to kill after.

wind yoke
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I actually killed him on Nightmare without using the Soul Cube. I used it on a Cacodemon before confronting him.

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Died many times before succeeding though.

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Minor accomplishment aside...

little raven
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Why do there have to be shield guys in doom 3

restive delta
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Because they want to ensure you kill yourself by using the basket-ball grenades doomguy_wicked

wind yoke
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Oh god. Those grenades were like those little super-bouncy balls.

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One time I threw a grenade down a couple stairs, and it bounced right back up towards me.

worldly flame
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ugh...what were those grenades made of? Explosive rubber?

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i've seen tennis balls that don't bounce as much as a Doom 3 grenade

wind yoke
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I can't imagine how much more they would bounce if they were fired from a grenade launcher.

versed estuary
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Bro those grenades I’ve killed me more than the demons

wind yoke
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I actually didn't bother using them much because I just liked using the guns.

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So I didn't know how bouncy they were until much later.

nimble wren
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I used like 10 grenades to try to kill one z-sec and I barely used them after that

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I think I ended up having to just shoot him

restive delta
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Yeah especially early game I like to use the grenades on z-sec, especially shotgunners, but sometimes it takes 5 grenades because they just don't want to bounce in the right direction spooky

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Though the machine gun works fairly well, and once you get plasma it does the job too. And even rockets, but I usually only do that if there's at least two close together

pure zenith
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yerah brah good chat

rancid bobcat
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Once I pretended that I have a grenade launcher it made using grenades easier and less suicide-bomby

worldly flame
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playing Doom 3: BFG edition again.....just got to the introduction of the Lost souls

Doom 3's variation of the Lost soul is definitely the creepiest lost_soul

rancid bobcat
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And not even pain elemental in sight

worldly flame
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which is odd when you think about it...with such a creepy and disturbing atmosphere....the pain elemental would be a prime pick to appear....but no

frozen nova
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no but they did keep the commandos

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and they come in an even more annoying variety

worldly flame
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oh yeah, i remember the commandos...chainguns and intestine whips or something like that

frozen nova
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arch viles too because nothing is sacred

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though I guess its fair that there are no pain elementals

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given they appeared in doom 64 with a vengeance

worldly flame
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revenants....zombie soliders....commandos...cacodemons (really just angry balloons)....lost souls....mancubus....archviles...and pinky...those are the staples I remember reappearing in Doom 3

the other demons that appeared were new demons exclusive to the game

rancid bobcat
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Revenants are pushovers

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Esp if you aim plasma gun at the head

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Honestly the most dangerous enemies are shotgunners and chaingunners

manic iron
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Archviles are a push over tho

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Cauae you got the soul cube by the time you see them

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And the BFG

frozen nova
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doom 3 as a whole is pretty easy

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enemies dont have a ton of health and weapons can do a lot of damage

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the archvile went from having 700 health in classic, to 300 in d3

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caco is a joke

rancid bobcat
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My memories of first time seeing doom3 is funny
It was on a local newspaper-like gaming budget magazine, an article with cover image being that shot of the pinkie eating a fat zombie in the bathroom

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Then I had a CGW issue that had a massive article hyping up doom 3

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Including a storyboard for a cutscene that never made to retail

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... I can scan it later

rancid bobcat
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Then I got “doom 3” (which was actually bootlegged doom 3 alpha that also came with pr boom and megawads like Memento Mori oddly enough)

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Could not understand how to play it

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I do now

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Yeah, that one

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My mom hated seeing it

manic iron
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I think any mum would

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Remember that old dead space 2 ad lmao

frozen nova
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one of those women in that ad admitted she was acting

rancid bobcat
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(she actually gifted me dead space 1, ty mom)

frozen nova
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she said it was like a horror movie and there are a lot of those

rancid bobcat
rocky harness
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welp, I bought BFG Edition for 5 Bucks thinking it would also net me that Red Classic skin in eternal.
It's actually pretty fun though, shotgun is... not cash money. At least I still have the re-release of the OG DOOM on my switch.

frosty holly
rancid bobcat
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There’s more in the pda logs

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In Lost Mission you stumble on an eaten carcass of a girl that was complaining about sexual harassment

manic iron
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Damn

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Look at that rack

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That moment when you give the boobs more polygons than the shoulders

frosty holly
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But those are the only 2 girls you can "interact" with? even when the first girl turns into a lost soul after a few seconds spooky

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Oh wait.. Olivia Pierce is the third Girl

terse marsh
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the second one is olivia pierce

frosty holly
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So.. one Girl turns into a Lost Soul, one turns into a Spoodey in Hell and the third has.. big arguments xD

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what? o.0

terse marsh
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she is in doom 3 too

scenic stratus
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There's some girl demons, both the pain elemental and spider mastermind are female.

frosty holly
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i mean girls in "Human" State

terse marsh
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or not, for some reason i remember seeing a video with a title under her saying "olivia pierce"

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ive never played doom 3, only watched stuff on it, lmao

frosty holly
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no it isnt Olivia, her name was Elizabeth McNeil

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Stop confusing me :x

terse marsh
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i wonder what video that was that told me she was olivia pierce

frosty holly
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Those fake news nowadays... everywhere.. telling ya

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if you find that video report it as fake news spooky

manic iron
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There's also those spider demon chicks in doom 3 that act as the first boss

frosty holly
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i mean girls in "Human" State

manic iron
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Ah

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Well I remember seeing some wamens on the Phobos trailer in doom eternal

frosty holly
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yeah thats right, so they improved that aswell satisfacdoom

restive delta
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Yep, and there's the hologram girl too with "mortally challenged" and the likes

fierce skiff
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how come i can compile the doom 3 original gpl source but i can't compile iodoom3?

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do i have to do something different?

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all doom 3 data is in the base folder

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i keep getting error C2664: 'ALenum (ALubyte *)' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'const char [16]' to 'ALubyte'

little raven
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I hate the shields

slim rose
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probably not

dark knot
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How does doom 3s multiplayer even work?

slim rose
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its like unreal tournament or quake i suppose

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weapons on the ground. power ups

dark knot
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Alright, sounds interesting

slim rose
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ive only ever played LAN

scenic stratus
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D3s mp is great but yeah, it's basically dead. Played like a slower quake 3

dark knot
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Doom 3 is the best, I'm just gonna chill and play it

worldly flame
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that's what I'm doing right now....playing through Doom 3...then RoE...and then the Lost mission

dark knot
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Lost mission was fun, short and sweet

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I like using the ssg, finally a real reason to use shells

worldly flame
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absolutely.....and I forgot how much I despise ticks....playing veteran and ticks just destroy me

nimble wren
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I'm sure you'll find some people to play the multiplayer with around here

restive delta
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Didn't DOOM 3 used to have hit detection based on the triangles of player models, rather than hit boxes?

honest lynx
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Started my nightmare run boys. Wish me luck

slim rose
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IN DOOM 3? ye goodluck boi

worldly flame
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good luck

silver python
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The trick I found for nightmare is to speed run kill things use soul cube for big baddies asumming you know where most the pop up enemy's are

fading summit
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does anyone here actually find doom 3 "scary?"

frozen nova
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its pretty spoopy

versed estuary
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I found it more suspensful then scary, but in a good way

dark knot
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Doom 3 is an experience, it's really fun to just sit and play, I prefer to play it on console though

fading summit
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tbh i didn't find it scary in fact every time something something "spoopy" happened i just felt either annoyed or fed up

unborn mantle
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Doom 3!

scenic stratus
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I prefer Doom 3 on PC because I can actually play the game with original mechanics

scenic stratus
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I get my ass scared only since it's my first playthrough, but it's exactly what I wanted for an original Xbox gen FPS

worldly flame
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i never found Doom 3 scary...a friend once told me....things are a lot less frightening when looking down the sights of a high caliber gun

side panel opens and zombie stumbles towards me....I blow em away with the shotgun

that being said...it has atmosphere...it's creepy, it's unsettling at times, the ambience and atmosphere are there, but it's not scary to me

scenic stratus
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For my first playthrough, the jumpscares get me, and I'm okay with that. Not many jumpscares get me anymore

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Even when I know they're coming they can still get me

worldly flame
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yep, the jumpscares do still sometimes get me, but then i push it aside and still blow em away with one of the many weapons that the marine gets....if it wasn't a Doom game and was more of a first person survival horror....that would be great for being scary because as I said....it has tons of creepy and unsettling moments

the introduction to the Lost souls is one of the creepiest moments ever in the game

charred fox
#

The fact that you can overcome fear with some nice buckshots is one of the great factors about doom 3

#

Also enjoyed this with 64 to an extent mainly because it really felt like you were fighting pure evil

worldly flame
#

can't deny that...the hell levels of Doom 3 are amazing as it feels like literal hell

charred fox
#

Hell yeah

worldly flame
#

intro to hell knights leading to hell

just BFGed them because I knew I'd be losing my equipment

dark knot
#

Hell is fun

worldly flame
#

gotta admit, it is intense

dark knot
#

It's the shit though 👌

fallow ocean
#

Someone convince me to buy DOOM 3 (OG) on steam

worldly flame
#

buy Doom 3 on steam

#

best sales pitch ever

fallow ocean
#

Convinced

#

Full dlc would need more tho

worldly flame
#

mmm....either way, Doom 3 is still a good fun Doom

dark knot
#

Indeed, can't beat that

fallow ocean
#

Ight, BFG or OG

slim rose
#

welllll. Are you interested in the skins for eternal?

#

which would not be on steam

fallow ocean
#

Nah, I know all that and already have them. I’m talking the steam versions of doom 3 since I don’t own them

#

I wanna play OG but I don’t think it’s supported

slim rose
#

why wouldnt it be supported?

fallow ocean
#

I mean idk,

#

It says it “System requirements
OS: Microsoft® Windows® 2000/XP (Does not support Windows Vista/7)”

slim rose
#

People say it works fine. It runs fine for me as well, though I don't own a steam version

fallow ocean
#

I gotta tweak it apparently

slim rose
#

looks like some simple console commands if so

#

max res is 1600x1200

#

ima try it out, havnt touched the game in awhile

worldly flame
#

lost soul just ended me by knocking me off a floating platform

doomguy_dead lost_soul

fallow ocean
#

Been getting lazy with all tweaking I gotta do for doom

slim rose
#

its pretty easy change tbh

fallow ocean
#

Lol Ik

#

Just lazy

slim rose
#

workin gud rn 👍

#

ooo boy those textures are uggglyyy

scenic stratus
#

hahahha doom 3 hahahahahaha meme.

slim rose
#

?

worldly flame
#

best hell by far

slim rose
#

mhm i agree

frosty holly
#

Thats so me when i wake up and someone talks to me before i had coffe....

boreal adder
#

I got OG Doom 3 running fine on win10 with just a little bit of googling and tweaks

rancid bobcat
#

use dhewm3 source port

#

it gives you UI elements with proper aspect ratio

#

so no more fat oval for crosshair

#

and configs that actually work after you restart

frozen nova
#

trying to fuck around with the game to make it harder

#

I changed the ammo counts to be closer to classic

#

not sure about changing enemy health

rancid bobcat
#

simple

make the shotgun heal 1hp damage per pellet

frozen nova
#

16 damage per pellet

honest lynx
#

Use us

#

The sweatest sound in my nightmare run satisfacdoom

versed estuary
#

You mean every 5 seconds?

frozen nova
#

increase the requirement to ten demons

versed estuary
#

Game is $3 on the Nintendo eshop doomguy_god_hd

honest lynx
#

The best 5 seconds you'll ever experience bob

#

Commandos can suck it by the way

worldly flame
#

not as much as ticks....ticks are my bane in Doom 3

nimble wren
#

trites/ticks are fairly easy to deal with if you use the machine gun and don't rush ahead or get cornered

shell elk
#

So og doom 3 is as good as doom bfg right?

nimble wren
#

it's subjective, really

shell elk
#

?

nimble wren
#

most people prefer one over the other, saying their choice is better

shell elk
#

What's different in the bfg edition?

nimble wren
shell elk
#

That's craaazy

#

I'm getting the og

nimble wren
#

what is it?

shell elk
#

After going over it it just sounds like the bfg tried to change the game from the og design decisions

nimble wren
#

somewhat
I guess you're referring to the mounted flashlight, increased ammo, and added light sources

#

I think they're good changes, except for maybe the ammo
I heard it was 50% more ammo
maybe only 25% would've been better

frozen nova
#

I have no idea why there is increased ammo in bfg ed

#

you were never strapped for ammo in the original except for the chaingun

#

added light sources OR mounted flashlight
we did NOT need both

haughty halo
#

agreed

frozen nova
#

funny enough bfg ed forgot to fix the important stuff

#

like the pathetic boss fights

nimble wren
#

I have the feeling they were addressing some complaints they received
maybe some people just wanted to use certain weapons all the time

frozen nova
#

the original game showered you with ammo

#

and the ammo caps were ridiculous

nimble wren
#

are the ammo caps the same between the two?

frozen nova
#

yes but now the ammo in your gun is separate from the total ammo

#

and also all the pickups give double ammo

#

they also added more pickups

#

the only ammo you got little of in the original was for the chaingun

nimble wren
#

I wonder if it's because of people not exploring enough to find ammo, plus not switching up which weapons they used

haughty halo
#

Also the BFG edition added performance issues.

frozen nova
#

about the only good thing bfg ed does is that it runs at 120hz

haughty halo
#

When it doesn't suddenly drop in framerate for no actual reason anyway

nimble wren
#

I've never noticed any frame drops when I played it
and that was on two different computers

frozen nova
#

is it just me or does the lighting also look flat out wrong

#

like its missing something

nimble wren
#

the lighting looked fine to me

rancid bobcat
#

playing through BFG Edition RoE

#

they turned it into an absolute joke

#

sure, pile up hundreds of bodies like bread crumbs so I never run out of Artifact uses spooky

frozen nova
#

no

#

bodies dont pile anymore mortally_challenged

rancid bobcat
#

2h 30m, not bad

honest lynx
#

Sarge just took the soul cube up the butt

#

Thought he'd be harder on nightmare but he got melted out the door haha

worldly flame
#

Sarge is not that hard if you keep yourself out of the BFG's area of effect and not do what I did

gravity is still my greatest foe....walked off the edge of the platform a few times doomguy_dead

honest lynx
#

@worldly flame soul cube as soon as the gate drops and then launch all your rockets and he ll die right away before he even fires a shot or you have to go around the platform

viral pebble
#

Would the chaingun work as well?

#

I’m not anywhere near that level but I know who you’re talking about

worldly flame
#

chaingun, plasma gun, rocket launcher...soul cube especially

i just had a bad habit of walking off the platform by accident...either way, I just finished Doom 3 and am now going to finish RoE

viral pebble
#

Noice
Resurrection of Evil is awesome

ashen crown
#

I didn't think veteran was unforgiving

viral pebble
#

I’m playing veteran right now- never done it before

#

I’m on empero plant

ashen crown
#

If it's your first playthrough

#

Go marine

viral pebble
#

Nah I’ve beaten doom 3, ROE and LMN on marine before
I’m replaying Doom 3 on veteran

honest lynx
#

Nightmare is where it's at. I'm having a blast playing as a mere mortal haha

civic stirrup
#

easily the best minigun in the franchise

honest lynx
#

The sound of the plasma rifle reloading is currently my text message notification

versed estuary
#

That is a satisfying sound

teal crow
#

bfg ed also brought DOOM to modern consoles

#

i think

scenic stratus
#

What if you wanted 60fps but God said: Nintendo Switch

fossil owl
#

how good is doom 3?

#

im thinking of grabbing it

honest lynx
#

@fossil owl it's a classic my bro

dark knot
#

Doom 3 is really cool, it's pacing is top notch, the story is intriguing, it's also kinda "spooky"
*It really ain't, but that's coming from someone who has watched horror movies their entire life

honest lynx
#

Plus it puts you in the boots of just an average marine facing down the first wave of a demon invasion

fossil owl
#

isnt it a remake of doom 1 tho

#

or is it related to doomguy and stuff

frozen nova
#

not exactly

dark knot
#

Kinda, it's partly inspired by the original, but doom 2016 is more of a reboot than doom 3

fossil owl
#

or was that completely retconned with doom 2016

frozen nova
#

doom 3 is sort of a retelling of of doom 1

#

rather than a reboot, its a reimagining

#

doom 2016 would be a reboot, since it hits a lot of the same notes but differently

dark knot
#

Doom 3 is supposed to be its own universe, it ain't cannon unlike 1, 2, 64, and 2016, oh, and eternal

frozen nova
#

there was some voices that claimed Call of Doomy was going to follow Doom 3

#

but its a stretch

dark knot
#

It is, call of doomy looks more modern compared to the futuristic industrial style of doom 3, anyways, how would it work?
We stopped the hell invasion in 3, done, gone for good in that world

frozen nova
#

i dunno

dark knot
#

Let's just thank id for dumping call of doomy for 2016

fossil owl
#

also what the fuck is call of doomy

frozen nova
#

call of doom was the name given to a project that preceded Doom 2016

dark knot
#

Doom 4, the dumped project, it's what would've been 2016

frozen nova
#

it was essentially a reimagining of Doom 2 but with at the time modern fps mechanics

#

like call of duty

#

hence the name

dark knot
#

And ( shivers) no doom guy
The worst part

frozen nova
#

actually there was a "doom" "guy"
he was a silent faceless protagonist

#

no relation to any other doomguy though

dark knot
#

I know, I just don't want to call him a doom guy, it feels wrong

frozen nova
#

glory kills were always meant to be part of this game, in development they were called "sync melee" and they would involve the use of both hand-to-hand and weapons like a knife or the gun you were holding

dark knot
#

(how many ideas did id take from dnf? I hate to say that...)

frozen nova
#

probably more than we think

dark knot
#

Executions, um...
At least id did it better, serious comeback

frozen nova
#

if you pay close attention you'll notice that some concepts and even assets have been recycled for Doom Eternal

#

like the giant tentacles on the buildings

#

or the gargoyles

dark knot
#

Oh, yes

#

Will they add maggot like things?

#

*to eternal

frozen nova
#

idk

dark knot
#

Maybe they will, we definitely havnt seen all the demons yet, and I don't think anything is completely sharing the same ai

#

As another demon

teal crow
#

woah doom doesnt run at 60 fps on switch?

dark knot
#

2016 only runs at 30 on the switch, I don't know about doom 3 though

teal crow
#

ofc that one doesnt but i know 1 and 2 do and im sure 3 does though i havent tried it was jw cause someone said it doesnt

fossil owl
#

lets hope doom 3 can run on my shitter of a pc

dark knot
#

No, don't hope

Pray it will, damn you need to play doom 3

rancid bobcat
#

Doom 3 on switch runs great

#

Constant 60 fps in portable mode

#

Unless you explode barrels

#

Sadly noticeable framedrops on TV

#

But still way better than on nvidia shield

dark knot
#

Alright, now I'm getting it for the switch
( I also want the classic red skin)

rancid bobcat
#

Very likely related to resolution as portable mode is locked to 720p

#

Its a good version to get

#

Was also my first digital purchase for my switch too

dark knot
#

Oh sweet

honest lynx
#

The culty evil feel of the UAC in 2016 defs originated from doom 3 as well as the atheistic

rancid bobcat
#

The Hellknight is ripped right out doom 3

#

Which is a good thing because beige Baron is lame

honest lynx
#

I just like how doom 3 makes you feel like an average dude coming up against demons and the legit bricks youd shit if you weren't the doom slayer

rancid bobcat
#

Now on ps4 pro Doom 3 runs at 4k60fps which is great

#

But had a couple of times where fps dropped to 5 for some reason spooky

#

Here is a nice overview of Doom 3 on modern consoles

fossil owl
#

my internet keeps shitting itself ffs, it was at a good 600kb download speed earlier

#

its at 200kb rn

#

its servicable but still shit

#

now its <100kb

rancid bobcat
#

Sounds like someone in your household is hogging it

fossil owl
#

games finished

#

its stuck at 4:3 tho

#

how to fix

rancid bobcat
#

Desktop stuck at 4:3 res?

#

Should go to settings>display to fix that

fossil owl
#

ok so i looked it up and the game doesn't support 16:9

#

but im just gonna stick with 4:3, game runs better that way

#

just takes a while to get used to the gigantic black bars on either side of the screen

rancid bobcat
#

Alright so you got two options @fossil owl

#
  1. Set res and aspect ratio via console commands
#
  1. Use dhewm3 source port
#

You just put it into the base directory and launch the dhewm3.exe

#

Or stick to nostalgic 4:3

fossil owl
#

how do i set it up so the source port launches when i boot the game up with steam

#

ok got it set up

#

now how do i actually change the aspect ratio since i dont see any options to do that

rancid bobcat
#

It should change when you select 16:9 resolution in settings

fossil owl
#

thats the thing

#

oh wait you mean change to a resolution that uses 16:9?

#

oh that didnt do anything

rancid bobcat
#

Weird

#

Tilde, then write

#

r_customWidth 1920
r_customHeight 1080
r_mode -1
r_aspectRatio 1
vid_restart

#

Mind you the PDA will still be in 4:3

scenic stratus
#

but stretch

#

it doesnt look to bad ngl. i recommend the dhewm 3 source port though, you don't have to use these commands for true widescreen resolutions

rancid bobcat
#

Which is what I detailed above before posting these commands as a last resort

fallow ocean
#

Eternal doom 3 skin

#

Discuss

safe summit
#

tbh doom 3 kinda succd

fallow ocean
#

Tbh, I didn’t ask you

#

Hehe

dark knot
#

Ooh, we got a doom 3 boomer, no one dis on doom 3 on my watch

#

Lost soul to you

scenic stratus
#

casualy hits cyberdemon summon command on him like 5 times

#

or something that is a boss
because i havent played doom 3

dark knot
#

Theres the cyber demon
And the guardian
And a spider thing
And a thing that inspired the doom hunter
A portal demon...
Theres more, I know it

scenic stratus
#

ah well
summmons all bosses on him, 5 times over
crashing my game in teh process

dark knot
#

Oh, and betruger himself...

#

Hm...
Am I forgetting anything?
I feel like I am

frozen nova
#

those things with tits in RoE

scenic stratus
#

well das okay

dark knot
#

@frozen nova you mean the portal demon, I forgot its name, but I came up with a name for it just now
(Fuck) the name

#

(Damn that name is stupid)

frozen nova
#

Tithrees

#

D(.)(.)m 69

dark knot
#

Oh shit... were on to something

frozen nova
#

doom but you get to fuck the demons and they all have tits ohwaititalreadyexists

dark knot
#

Do not
And please do not
Ever
Mention that wad
Ever
Again

#

(I would say more, but vega would be on to me before I fucking finish typing the 100 page book on my thoughts of hdoom)

scenic stratus
#

Oh shit, somebody probably is working on HDOOM 2016 OH GOD OH FU-

dark knot
#

Oh shit!
Get the shotgun!
Were going in...

scenic stratus
#

Going... W H E R E ?

coral solstice
#

2016 doesn't have real mod support

dark knot
#

We're going into hdooms base of operations, they must be stopped

cerulean vault
#

so is doom 3 considered "the bad one" ?

coral solstice
#

it's better than most say

cerulean vault
#

them why do people consider it the "bad one" ?

coral solstice
#

because it's different

#

it's more horror-inspired (well, Doom 1 did have an element of horror, just not as much as 3 and also 64), it was a little slower

#

there wasn't much music, it was pretty dark (altho classic Doom had some dark areas that worked really well in the software renderer), and the first portion of the game isn't that enjoyable until you get to Hell

cerulean vault
#

so its not the "bad one" its more like "pink sheep you find in minecraft"

its different, its weird, but once you kill it, you find that it was actually kinda cool

coral solstice
#

but I think it's a lot better than what most say about it because, frankly, those people probably don't understand that Doom should have its fair share of horror too

#

also, they probably think Brutal Doom is a good mod and better than stuff like Guncaster

cerulean vault
#

wait brutal doom is bad?

#

i havent played it yet, but i heard it was actually good?

coral solstice
#

it's bland, unbalanced, and badly coded

slim rose
#

never played. Heard its popular, but like, not exactly a "good" mod

coral solstice
#

and yet, somehow, people praise it like the next telephone

#

I, unfortunately, used to be one of those people

cerulean vault
#

so its just a gorefest basically?

coral solstice
#

the fact that I was like 12 at the time may or may not make it better

#

yes, it's a gorefest, but a bit of a boring one

#

and again, badly coded
if I wanted a good gore mod, I'd go with Universal Gibs

#

and also, the creator used to be a massive dick, but let's not get into that

versed estuary
#

^ all of the above

cerulean vault
#

what do you mean by badly coded exactly?

dark knot
#

I haven't played brutal doom, but from what I've seen, it ain't nothing too special, though, I kiiiinda like the execution system, though, it doesnt seem to responsive

restive delta
#

Yeah I feel that DOOM 3 gets more flak than it deserves, even though I prefer the originals and 2016 more

dark knot
#

I hate being toxic about doom 3, but seriously, I feel like doom 3 gets less credit than it deserves, the tech that doom 3 brought to the world was revolutionary, like bump maps and lighting stuff, anyways, the game ain't that bad, it plays well, and the atmosphere is great

coral solstice
#

@cerulean vault it runs well in-game, but if you view the code in SLADE3 it's a fucking mess

versed estuary
#

3 got hate because it wasn’t “doom”

But if you really dive deeper, it truly is a nice game at setting the atmosphere and suspense

#

My complaint is that the main story campaign took too long to ramp up in intensity and speed

cerulean vault
#

good ol yandere dev coding eh?

versed estuary
#

RoE definitely fixed that issue. Much faster. And my bb the SSG

slim rose
#

the original doom 3 game is really slow in the beginning and thats why i always have trouble playing it

#

I just feel like map game/hell1

versed estuary
#

Hell, 1 level of amazing ness

#

That’s were the entire budget went

slim rose
#

mhm

versed estuary
#

Doom 3 is still one of my favorite games

honest lynx
#

I have to plan every move in every room I go into on nightmare. Which is something new and cool... really give you the feeling of how weak you are against a demon horde

restive delta
#

Yeah you need to know the game pretty well to deal with nightmare. Not that I've done it myself, but it seems like it anyway

honest lynx
#

Give it a go... it's amazing

viral pebble
#

Redownloaded doom 3 on my pc- original

viral pebble
#

@fierce skiff how am i supposed to open the doom 3 alpha demo? its a .rar

nimble wren
#

7-Zip can open rar I think

viral pebble
#

ah, just did that

#

thanks

#

for some reason i cant click on anything in doom 3 alpha and no sound

#

and the mouse just goes all the way to the bottom right

#

not only that radiant mfc stopped working :/

#

is there a way to load the demo in console at least like with e3 map/intro?

#

Um nvm, it’s fixed. But now the sensitivity is super high. I keep looking at the floor and spinning like crazy. How do I fix that??

#

:/

#

Options arent even available, just singleplayer

nimble wren
#

there's the sensitivity console command

viral pebble
#

What’s the full command? I want sensitivity to be normal

nimble wren
#

put some number after it
I dunno how it's measured, just try different values

viral pebble
#

I just type “sensitivity #”?

nimble wren
#

yes

viral pebble
#

Aight I’ll see if that works

nimble wren
#

it's what's called a console variable, or convar for short
they're commands that take a value and affect something in the game
most settings are convars, so that's why I thought there might be one for sensitivity
I just had to look up what the command is

viral pebble
#

Ok. Guess only other question is how do I load up E3_1.map

#

Cuz “map e3/1” doesn’t work

rancid bobcat
#

You need to put a directory path

#

From the root where the exe/bat was launched

#

To start the maps type in command line:
map e3/e3_1
map e3/e3_2
map e3/e3_3
map fred/e3bathroom5 (an additional developer test map, nothing special but this is an curious thing)

#

@viral pebble

#

Keep in mind, Doom 3 Alpha is like a perfect timeless encapsulation of every vertical slice shown in e3

#

Its supposed to carry and sell the idea of the game they are making

#

But the maps are designed to be rehearsed and eventually show off the mockup of the gameplay as railroaded on the script

#

And everything breaks if you try to deviate

#

Still cool stuff inside, like a better shotgun

#

And some level design pieces made into retail

viral pebble
#

a directory path?

#

actually wait @rancid bobcat how do i change sensitivity?? its all the way maxed out

#

i keep looking at the floor and sensitivity is cranked up to max

rancid bobcat
#

sensitivity 10 ??

viral pebble
#

it took it as an ordinary message, its still at max

#

you want me to send you the demo and have you figure it out too?

rancid bobcat
#

sensitivity 3

#

And no, I am at work

viral pebble
#

oh, ok

fierce skiff
#

Hey noodle, search up doom 3 alpha download on youtube

#

And search for a video talkin bout unedited test footage

#

And download his google drive link

#

When in game open the console and type in

#

exec runact.cfg

#

You’ll see a spinning id logo, click to start the intro

#

Once you get in the game and are in control, press the home key on your keyboard

#

It should fix some stuff and give you some weapons

#

That version will have a lot of fixed bugs

viral pebble
#

finally beaten the doom 3 alpha demo
i completely broked it cus it was only to be used as a showcase at e3 2002 XD

#

i didnt see your message at all, angery, i ended up beating the demo as it is lol

scenic stratus
#

You can play the alpha demo? where would I acquire it and how long is it?

rancid bobcat
#

google

#

its about 15 minutes long

#

almost exact same runtime as E3 2002 showcase

viral pebble
#

The alpha demo? Hold on @scenic stratus

frozen nova
#

what was the spread of the shotgun in alpha?

#

in the final game its 22
7 for the zombies

frosty holly
#

Downloading the E3 Alpha atm. aswell
I'm excited to see the differences :3

frozen nova
#

extract the pk4 using 7zip, find weapon_shotgun.def

#

then find "spread"

frosty holly
#

The ATi Radeon 9800 Pro, that was used to showcase the Doom 3 Alpha could hit around 55-60FPS
I think it was one of the best GPU at this time

Price: ~$400 spooky

rancid bobcat
#

@frozen nova I'm on it, gimme 5 minutes

#

... or 20

frosty holly
#

is there a way to run the alpha in Fullscreen at 1080p?

nimble wren
#

you can try r_mode -1
dunno if that'll work though

frozen nova
#

OHO

rancid bobcat
#

anything else?

frozen nova
#

check the damage object too

#

same file

rancid bobcat
#

maybe I'm dumb, but I keep looking
its not in "shotgun" file, its in "weapons.def"

#

"damage" search results in nothing

frozen nova
#

okay then its different than the final game

rancid bobcat
#

||okay I want to commend Carmack and id, this code actually looks SUPER neat compared to crap I have to look through in API tests||

#

AH HA

frozen nova
#

whoa man thats totally different from the final game

#

make the number of pellets is different too

rancid bobcat
#

its in "melee.def"

#

but it lists all damage

frozen nova
#

interesting

#

thanks for looking through it

rancid bobcat
#

no prob, was fun

#

yes, Doom 3's code is commendable for being very pretty

fallow ocean
#

Is there anyway to move DOOM 3: Lost Mission from the BFG Edition to Vanilla

rancid bobcat
#

no?

#

its fully baked into idtech 5 iirc

#

oh wait

fallow ocean
#

Niceo

rancid bobcat
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I am bored and can't sleep

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..time to check out Doom 3 BFA I guess coolcaco

fallow ocean
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Playing DOOM 3 vanilla for the first time bois wish me luck

dark knot
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Luck wished

fallow ocean
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“The devil is real. I know, I built his cage”

frozen nova
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use the better shotgun mod

dark knot
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No, that's for the weak

boreal adder
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just get closer to the demons ya cawards

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charge 'em

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believe me it works...

dark knot
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Stick it up their nose, you'll learn how to dodge

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100% kill rate, no, with shotgun more like 80%

boreal adder
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disclaimer: Splotchie is not responsible for death by Mancubus resulting from this strategy

frozen nova
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if you want to get close to the demons just use the chainsaw

boreal adder
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yeah do that if you want to give them a chance to hit you

dark knot
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Don't the chainsaw overheat though?

boreal adder
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one day I'll record me playing and I'll wow the pants off all of you

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you'll be so amazed you'll grow tails

dark knot
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@boreal adder do you got a YouTube?

boreal adder
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yes, rarely used 🙂

dark knot
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Same, mine is mostly time lapses of drawings I've done..
I just realized I haven't posted since Christmas, I need to up my game

boreal adder
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till I made my vid for Blood Jungle last weekend, I hadn't uploaded since 2018

dark knot
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I must sub

boreal adder
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sub if you must but be warned it is IN VAIN

dark knot
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Oh... Ok

boreal adder
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...by the time I make something new you'll have forgotten I was ever there

dark knot
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True

boreal adder
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get it from there
and gimme yours to return the favour

dark knot
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Sure

boreal adder
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that's one good-looking imp

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the lady demons must be tumbling over themselves

dark knot
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Indeed,

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Though, youd be surprised with how much art can change in a month

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I've gotten a lot better

boreal adder
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I wouldn't be so surprised... I recorded a guitar track the other day that I don't think I'd have been able to do in January. Certainly not so fast

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the learning is what makes the creating so fun

dark knot
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Indeed,

boreal adder
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speaking of music what did you use to play the midi tracks in that video? they sound really good

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...so much reverb. I have unhealthy love for reverb

dark knot
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I had em saved on my tablet, I forgot where I got em...
They're ooold

boreal adder
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from the Prince himself?

dark knot
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Maybe...

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I'm forgetting

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Onyx did do something for me to use, I gotta use it sometime

primal haven
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Ah is there anyway to think of doom 3 and properly enjoy it ? Because often times I have trouble thinking of it as a doom game

nimble wren
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that's because it deviates from previous games

frozen nova
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You can complain about Doom 3 until your tits fall off
Or you can just sit down, play it, finish it, be done with it, form your opinion, and then move on

primal haven
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Okie I guess I’ll just think of it as a doom game trying to be more horror then

scenic stratus
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I have beaten doom 3 twice and am playing it again on switch

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should i seek help?

versed estuary
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No because it means you are not a sheep who just follows the “OmG DoOm 3 BaD cUz EvErYoNe ElSe SaYs iT bAd”

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If someone plays the game, and genuinely doesn’t like It. Good. At least they played and understand why they don’t like it.

This whole “the majority says it’s bad so it must be mentality” of gaming recently is stupid

slim rose
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most things these days seem determined by the loudest section of a group. Its hard to judge a community sometimes

versed estuary
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Massive examples include
Doom 3
Fallout 76
Battlefront 2
Wolf Youngblood

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Mind U.
Doom 3 didn’t exactly change much from launch besides the BFG edition.
76 through a year of updates is finally (still buggy af) but getting to what it shoulda been at launch

Batttlefront 2 also took like 2 years to be what it should have been
And Youngblood most hate comes from not being wolf 3
And genuinely terrible story.

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Heck Doom 3 rn is $3 on the Nintendo eshop.

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And I think it’s that or cheaper on steam rn

nimble wren
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yeah Fallout 76 is really no different than any other Bethesda title in respect to bugginess early on

versed estuary
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$3 for about 20 hours of content. Not counting more than 1 playthrough

slim rose
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Ye for wolfenstien i was just kinda eh with it. I'm a fan of the games but when theres no being BJ, its liek, weh

versed estuary
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True but 76 launched more broken compared to its other games. It was mostly the lack of content and stuff that was it’s issue.

NPC interaction was the biggest part of fallout and they straight up removed them like what

slim rose
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theres a joke about 76. Being its pretty much impossible to do a bug free speed run

versed estuary
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Lol

slim rose
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or truth, idk, i dont play

versed estuary
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I CANT WAIT
For eternal combat shotgun. God this 2016 one is almost as inaccurate as doom 3s shotgun

nimble wren
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I think they expected players to make up the difference in interactivity
but it didn't really pan out that way

slim rose
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naw the doom 3 shotgun is BAD

nimble wren
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since the entire reason they didn't add human NPCs was because they wanted players to be the only human characters

slim rose
versed estuary
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Terrible idea tbh. Half the reason Outer worlds has been praised so much is the NPCs.
Gotta say when it comes to fallout type games Fallout went in the worst possible direction
And outer worlds did everything but better, not to mention on switch

slim rose
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found the uh, source, code, totally, for spray

nimble wren
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2016's shotgun is actually has a decent amount of range for a video game shotgun
3's shotgun does barely anything at the same distance

slim rose
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youd be lucky if one pellet hit at a distance

versed estuary
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No yeah I know doom 3 shotgun is stupid

But 2016 feels no different at times. Sometimes it takes me 4-6 shots to kill some things. Just like the doom 3 one

nimble wren
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those spread cones are mostly accurate, in fact

frozen nova
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thats just because the enemies have bloated health

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some of the upgrades overcompensate

versed estuary
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I’m talking possessed soldiers

nimble wren
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yes, imps typically take like 2 shotgun shots

frozen nova
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you mean those chunky chunk fucks right?

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yeah they have slightly bloated health

versed estuary
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Or the barrel at the start of the game UN right, I grab shield shoot barrel.
Sometimes I hit barrel first shot*
This time I somehow missed the barrel after 5 shots

nimble wren
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soldiers just have more health relative to their equivalents in other Doom games

slim rose
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they look even beefier in eternal tbh

versed estuary
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Everything looks better in eternal tbh

slim rose
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Yeah they gave all the creatures eyeballs this time around!

versed estuary
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Good, they can see their reaper descend upon them

slim rose
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just think about it, sooo many doom 16 demons had no eyes

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ima go check

versed estuary
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Unpopular opinion.
Doom 3 is stupidly underrated. Especially cost to content ratio

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Now, not only is it on every platform.
$10
For ~20 hours of gameplay

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You don’t find those kinds of numbers anywhere anymore

slim rose
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it has a good package tbh. Just have to get through some of the first levels

versed estuary
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Yeah my only complaint was main campaign first 4-5hours or so we’re pretty slow
RoE and LM took care of speed

honest lynx
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You forget playing on nightmare is a whole different game. Double the value honestly.

versed estuary
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^^^^

fervent crest
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I just played my first hour of Doom 3 today

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and I gotta say I really enjoyed it

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obviously it's not the kind of game I associate the Doom franchise with, would have been better as a spinoff rather than a mainline Doom title

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but I do enjoy it

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dodging imp fireballs are annoying tho

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and the shotgun fires impossibly slow

reef jackal
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Yeah because imp balls are explosive projectiles so even if you Dodge them on instinct like Doom 1 and 2, they can explode against the environment and hurt you

fervent crest
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yeah I got that

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also it sucks to be on 2 health and can't find a med kit

reef jackal
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And shotgun is kind of inaccurate, spread is strong, and it may have RNG damage

fervent crest
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RNG damage actually makes a lotta sense now

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there was a part where a possessed soldier ambushes me and I saved just before it and sometimes I'd 1 shot him and other times he'd be fine

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then kill me cause I was on 2 health

reef jackal
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Good tip btw for imps, shotgun to the chest is more effective than the head

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Don't know why but trust me, it's better

fervent crest
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yeah I noticed that

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I 2 hit with chest hits but it takes at least 3 for the head

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sometimes 4

reef jackal
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It's RNG damage because I can one shot revenants to the head with shotgun

rancid bobcat
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I also constantly crouch under the fireballs

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Except RoE imps, they’re assholes who volley them pretty low

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Also yeah prepare to crouch for the other guy coming up, as its the only way to dodge his attacks

honest lynx
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Nightmare is not going to be fun with those xenomorph turds

merry sphinx
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i hate the fact that most of the time, the shotgun has the range of a wet napkin.

little raven
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I call the shotgun the rectum punch

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Cause that’s where it needs to be to do damage

rancid bobcat
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It even looks like a plug

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Okay but seriously am I the only one bothered by its “futuristic” shape..?

honest lynx
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Use the futuristic super shotgun

rancid bobcat
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Now that one is nice

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It even nails the “retro” aesthetic

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Without actually looking like an ancient musket from year 2005

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Sarge had good taste

thick dome
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spose I shouldnt worry too much about doom3 spoilers if people are in this channel anyway

honest lynx
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@thick dome nicely done. Just about to run into that big fella on my nightmare run. Decided to do lost missions first

thick dome
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thanks, damn good luck I think Im on hmp and Im not too great at the game

rancid bobcat
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You mean, Marine?

thick dome
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oh yeah, I forgot

proven zodiac
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I still havent beaten doom 3

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It just doesnt feel like doom to me

frozen nova
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If I had a penny for every time I heard that, id have enough to eat every week

honest lynx
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@proven zodiac play on nightmare... itll feel like you're doomed real fast

proven zodiac
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I bet lmao

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I mean the game is cool and all but it aint my style

honest lynx
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Might be in the wrong chat room then

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Everyone here lloves doom 3

charred fox
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Doom 3 really makes you feel like spiderman

honest lynx
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I just think it puts you in the boots of just an average soldier trying to survive a demon horde ... which is fricking cool... see it from that perspective

proven zodiac
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True

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But I love the idea of being an unstoppable demon slayer

frozen nova
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well personally I want both

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an average soldier who takes up arms against an unstoppable demon horde

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and doesnt afraid of nothin

honest lynx
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I think doom 3 gives a great story and really builds a picture of just how messed up the UAC is for the backdrop of the new doom games as well ... I mean they forced employees to do experiments if their number was called because they signed a legal contract .. like the revenant program

proven zodiac
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I agree

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I wanna play doom 3 now lol

honest lynx
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You won't regret it. Just play on veteran or nightmare for the best experience

frozen nova
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big dick energy shotgun for vanilla only

honest lynx
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^^ this satisfacdoom

proven zodiac
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I think I'm already about halfway through it

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Im not sure

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Havent played it since october

frozen nova
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are you at the part in the uac mars base fighting demons?

honest lynx
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Let us know when you get over 10 000 on turkey puncher

potent phoenix
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@honest lynx you told me to go here so you could fill me in

frozen nova
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fill you with what? xd

proven zodiac
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I fought like 10 mancubi in one room

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That's the last thing I remember

frozen nova
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hell level?

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or giant toobs?

proven zodiac
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Still at the mars base

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So idk how much longer I have to go. Probably a lot lol

frozen nova
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did you fight the two hell knights out of the portal?

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did you reach delta labs?

proven zodiac
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I haven't fought hell knights yet lmao

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The more questions you ask the more I realise I barely played the game 💀

honest lynx
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@proven zodiac are you playing doom 3 lol

mystic magnet
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Im in the first mission thing and i gotta get out but theres no map and i cant find my way out im at where there is red lights

nimble wren
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a screenshot would be more helpful

versed estuary
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^

mystic magnet
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Okay one sec let me get back to it

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Also i suck at stick shooting any advice?

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Iv only ever did mouse and keyboard

nimble wren
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oh you mean you're using a controller

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it's not just you, it is difficult

mystic magnet
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Playing on the switch

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Doot 1,2,3 i got on it for like 3.77

versed estuary
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Oof all I can say is adjust your sensitivity

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People that only use M & K suck at controllers. And vice versa

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So yeah, adjust sensitivity until u find what works best

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Heck, don’t be afraid to go with super low sensitivity, and work your way up

mystic magnet
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Thank god it was cheap

versed estuary
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$3 I believe yeah

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Start on easiest difficulty, and lowest sensitivity

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It’s all about getting used to sticks. I assume u are playing handheld?

mystic magnet
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I am so surprised though that you can kill tutorial guys. All i can think of is skyrim

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It was so fun

versed estuary
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U can kill about 99% of all humans

mystic magnet
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Is there a bad end to that

versed estuary
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Nope

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They technically die anyways, it’s called mercy

slim rose
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you can actually get more stuff by killing hoomans

mystic magnet
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OMFG thats great

slim rose
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Steal their PDAs for locker codes

mystic magnet
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Thats sp messed up i love it

versed estuary
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Wait deadass? That actually explains so much

slim rose
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Im pretty sure I've seen it.

mystic magnet
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Chaotic Evil I can be

slim rose
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It's been a long time but I'm pretty sure. Not all of them have PDAs ofc

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violating UAC protocol as usual

mystic magnet
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Also I have to say bethesda old graphics for doom 3 is hilariously bad

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The damn modles, doom guys face its great

slim rose
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mhhhh. Its not terrible. But eh ye

versed estuary
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Remember for the time doom 3 was one of the most advanced games possible

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Especially for 2004

mystic magnet
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Ah i see

nimble wren
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are there even any PDAs you get in the prologue section that are required to open a locker somewhere
I don't think there are

mystic magnet
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I dont think so but its fun just to kill them anyways

slim rose
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Theres the security room. Not sure about that one

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The place with the guy at the weapons bar

mystic magnet
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Can you imagine. One moment this dude saves you from demons only to shoot you like 5 seconds later

versed estuary
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Hell thats what I did

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Omg thanks, I thought I was the only survivor.
As I shotgun him point blank

mystic magnet
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YA!

versed estuary
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The first time I did it, I was like oh shit, he actually died.

mystic magnet
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Kinda same

slim rose
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Ye its like "Dang its one of those NPCs i cant kill because he's important to the stor-" pump boosh

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"Oh"

nimble wren
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they took the Half-Life 1 approach to friendly NPCs, I see

mystic magnet
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I was about to say that its sad that they dont fight back but then i relize..cant really fight back when shot dead

proven zodiac
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@honest lynx I am now

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God the theme is so good

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Im only 4 and a half hours into the campaign

frozen nova
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about four or five more to go

proven zodiac
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Nice

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I'm almost done with the recycling sector

fervent crest
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I remember killing humans and picking up their PDA's if they had one

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but all the PDA's I obtained this way were blank

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no audio files or emails

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more like a prop than anything else

rancid bobcat
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and assigned to the same name?

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yeah if you are a completionist and want the "collect all PDAs" trophy/achievement

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you HAVE to kill innocent people

fervent crest
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I at first did it to experiment

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since the soldier behind the glass said don't go shooting people

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so naturally I shot the first guy I saw

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and then he dropped his PDA and I was like "oh cool"

rancid bobcat
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I always did that since 2004

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because I am a freak deviant and frankly

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the ending implies you are THE ONLY survivor

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yeah those guys you met later after the invasion?

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dead, even if you didn't kill them

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RoE did the smart move and relegated Elizabeth to the armored booth

fervent crest
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I mean I think doing that is to be expected in games like these at some point

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I have yet to meet someone who's played Halo Combat Evolved longer than 5 minutes who hasn't tried killing a marine or Captain Keyes

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it's just the ability to do what you want

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so like screw it why not?

scenic stratus
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Tends to happen a lot to me in Half-Life

scenic stratus
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i feel like there should be another series that focuses on the survival horror gameplay doom 3 went for

heady vortex
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just got to phobos labs in my one-doom3-level till release playthrough. not much left

ashen crown
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How many levels are in Doom 3

frozen nova
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that includes the intros tho

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and the last level which is just a walk down a corridor to the final boss

ashen crown
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Okay

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I got this

rancid bobcat
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27 levels in original

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12 levels in RoE

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8 in Lost Mission

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no, hidden three developer maps (one of them is literally fifty monsters in a big room to shoot BFG into) do not count

ashen crown
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So I'm on Alpha Labs Sector 4 so how far am I?

nimble wren
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about a third of the way in, as far as amount of levels go

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Delta is about halfway, and you have Enpro, Comms, Recycling, and Monorail before then

proven zodiac
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I think i made it to delta last night

honest lynx
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Already ... what difficulty are you planning on

coral solstice
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Recruit?

unique sky