the BFG is the flashlight!
#doom-3
slim rose
safe karma
lol
scenic stratus
That door was before hell. Can't remember the exact level though
scenic stratus
I think it might even be before that
safe karma
Delta have least 5 sectors
slim rose
if you felt lazy you could just run around in no clip to find it
boreal adder
No, it's in Communications Transfer. In the second room after you enter the building.
Trust me ;)
restive delta
It is indeed
boreal adder
one of my favourite levels
plush gyro
I'd rather encourage the original playthrough (with toggleable flashlight only). It's how we all did it at first.
This is the way.
slim rose
I just like the sounds of the flashlight when you swing it
plush gyro
(whoosh)
slim rose
fists too
plush gyro
YES. That too!
slim rose
the real way to play doom 3 is only use the flashlight
plush gyro
Well, if you had like 1000000 health lol
slim rose
thats what godmode is for
plush gyro
scenic stratus
Agreed with darth. Original is definitely the way to go
rocky acorn
Hit the Central Processing level. The Perfected Doom 3 soul cube really does fuckin' break the game balance. I am rolling on 200 health, full armor and full ammo, and I can drop down my own personal hell knight.
oak copper
So i should do bfg edition?
rocky acorn
Honestly I would do OG Doom 3.
oak copper
Ok. If i do that how do i get it at a modern resolution?
coral forum
Use the dhewm3 sourceport
oak copper
Thanks
scenic stratus
And there's plenty of mods for the original to make it look better than bfg if you're concerned about that
oak copper
so uhm playing it and the shotgun is the worst thing ive ever seen
holy fuck
anyway to make the gunplay not dog shit
coral solstice
I think there should be a mod or two that reduces that wild spread
scenic stratus
its kinda meant to be like that and only used at point blank range, i mean hell its a pistol grip sg with like a 10 inch barrel
coral solstice
most VG shotguns don't require you to get that close
charred fox
I use the realistic weapons mod I think
Fixes the spread but donāt use it with roe because it fucks up the supershotgun lol
oak copper
Ok
plush gyro
seta r_customHeight 1080
seta r_aspectRatio 1
seta r_mode -1```
Put this into a text file that you'll rename to autoexec.cfg, or add to your existing one. @oak copperI just ended up using dhewm3
plush gyro
Welp
oak copper
Thanks though
plush gyro
This is how I always used to do it, before all these fancy mods.
Had to do everything manually.
oak copper
I'm liking the game so far but the default guns are really crappy in comparison to every other Doom game. I know the pacing is much different but like. Yuck
slim rose
what's wrong with a cube for a shotgun!?
tbh ye all the guns are ugly.
I like the plasma rifle though
oak copper
Not really the appearance more so they don't shoot like they would in any other doom game.
versed estuary
For doom 3 all you needed was rpg and plasma gun
charred fox
Oh yeah
charred fox
Plasma was great
little raven
Chaingin is op
versed estuary
Eh, plasma >>>>>chaingun
charred fox
Iād love grenades more if they didnāt always bounce back ;_;
Chaingun has the fastest reload for some reason lol
little raven
I always forget about my grenades because I only use plasma and chaingun
versed estuary
Lol I have a perfect video of grenade bounce back, I tossed it right at a corner and it hit me for full hp
charred fox
God I hate that
versed estuary
I never used bfg
charred fox
Boomerang nades
versed estuary
First time I tried it āover charged or somethingā and killed me
Saved it for final boss fight vs imps
charred fox
Ikr
versed estuary
Me 1 pumps an imp
2 seconds later
9 shots of a shotgun donāt kill an imp
charred fox
F
little raven
Yeah the doom 3 shotgun is the worst weapon ever made in a video game
scenic stratus
The chaingun was way better on the Xbox port lol, every shot was 100% accurate
charred fox
Damn
heady vortex
yah shotgun sucks, I forgot how bad it is
made it to central processing on my 1-level-per-day-countdown
charred fox
Aw yea
restive delta
I just sprint in and out with shotgun, works pretty well that way
Though it's not great against faster enemies in particular. Need to score a nearly point-blank headshot to take down a commando I believe
But early game against imps you just sprint in a U-shape, and at the bottom of the U shape you're close enough to score a hit. That amount of movement will general avoid being hit by the fireballs
And yeah shotgunners are proper bastards, then send you all of the place. I try to save my nades, and sprint backwards spamming a few. Though as mention about, the grenades are super bouncy so it doesn't always work, and you can even hit yourself sometimes 
scenic stratus
I feel as though half of my gameplay in Doom 3 was spent spinning or sprinting around and hoping to hit shit... Itās a shame, because I have a soft spot for Doom 3 as a genuine attempt at a horror game rather than a shootemup... but the controls feel... slippery? I dunno, they donāt feel right.
restive delta
For me, the standard movement speed and responsiveness to inputs is kind of heavy considering a lot of enemies are designed to come right up in your face.
Without sprint usage you tend to get battered pretty quickly
slim rose
o boy i gotta play the entire doom 3 in VR now, its pretty neat
scenic stratus
Are you using bfg?
scenic stratus
Should be selectable when you hit new game at the menu
frozen nova
back then it was called expansion packs
scenic stratus
Yup lol
stuck lion
Which ones shortest?
scenic stratus
Lost mission for sure
restive delta
Yeah I think Lost Missions took me like 2:45
frozen nova
was there a heart? the heart thing is from RoE
coral solstice
yeah, the Artifact
restive delta
RoE is kinda half the length of the main game, maybe a bit less.
frozen nova
main game is about 8 hours on average maybe longer depending on how you're playing it
restive delta
@stuck lion If the intro was a bit like the Enpro cut-scene from 3, then you start Lost Missions
If it started with some ugly dude taking his helmet off and touching some weird heart thing, it's RoE
stuck lion
There was a heart, I think I started roe
restive delta
In that case yes. Enjoy
stuck lion
Half the length of the main campaign?? I spent 30 hours on that
frozen nova
how?
stuck lion
I have no idea
restive delta
Getting lost too much
slim rose
i have a lot of DOOM 3 http://prntscr.com/r0gojb
Includes the original and BFG, then the VR mod
restive delta
Good news is there are very few PDAs in RoE, and not many have audio logs at all
stuck lion
I wasn't even lost much, I got demons spawning most of the time I really feel like I was just sucked into a dimension where time goes slower
restive delta
RoE is a bit more pacey, so it hopefully won't feel as a long
frozen nova
RoE is also much darker
stuck lion
I hope so I can't be spending another 15 hours in this
I was so sure I could cram doom 3 into my game schedule, I gave it a week
It's been a month and a half this game is too long
stuck lion
And they all look the saammmmeee
restive delta
@stuck lion Well looking back at my last streams, I spent 10 hours on 3, and 4 on RoE
slim rose
5 levels later im still in delta labs?
stuck lion
how in gods name did you spend a third of the time I did in campaign
restive delta
So that's more like 12 hours for RoE for you then... but still
stuck lion
restive delta
Well I know the game well. Since I was streaming that was longer too, since I listened to a fair few logs and videos and stuff from what I remember
stuck lion
Ah fair enough
restive delta
If I just blasted through without caring, maybe I'd do more like 6-8 hours. I've never really tried though
scenic stratus
Isn't there an achievement in bfg for beating it in less than 8 hours? So it's definitely doable
stuck lion
Theres one for beating the main campaign in less than 10 hours
restive delta
Oh interesting. Mind you I have the Beth Net one, not sure if that has achievements or not
stuck lion
Lmao why have only a total of 11.7% of players actually finished the main campaign
restive delta
But under 10 would be no problem for me, I know the game well enough
stuck lion
I got 30 hours so I'm not quiiiiiite there
restive delta
That happens with most games.
But I suspect with 3 the percentage finished is lower than the likes of 2016 because of how long it is
stuck lion
Yeah I was really thinking of dropping it too
But then I remembered I paid 7 bucks for this
frozen nova
D3 only truly comes alive during its latter half
restive delta
Like some of these massive open-world games you'll be looking at single digit % finishers probably
stuck lion
That last area with the lava and the dungeon stuff was cool, wish there was more of that
versed estuary
So lemme tell you this story where Soky said he had 30 hours played and was on level 5
stuck lion
Shut the save thing was broken and telling me the wrong level name before I manually saved over it
I was right at the end of the game
versed estuary
So lemme tell you a story, that started 30 hours of Sokyās life ago
One soky, one game. 1 dream. A never ending dream
stuck lion
versed estuary
And his pursuit of the final boss
stuck lion
I'm still not done I gotta finish the dlcs too
If roe is really half the campaign then I got 15 hours
versed estuary
You finally beat the campaign?
stuck lion
Yea my save was right before the end
versed estuary
Iām so proud of you ;-;
stuck lion
Thanks ;-;
versed estuary
Only took ya 31 hours
stuck lion
I just bfg spammed the cyberdemon
versed estuary
Time for another 30 hours for both expansions
little raven
No mastermind in 3?
slim rose
that thing wasnt a cyberdemon
stuck lion
I'm gonna finish this when I'm 30
slim rose
it was a demoncyber
versed estuary
It was stupid thatās what it was
slim rose
it was big, and easy to beat
versed estuary
Roar,
Starts shuffling itās feet
slim rose
it moved 2mph
stuck lion
It just came at me and shot one rocket in total
versed estuary
It moved slower than Soky playing the game
frozen nova
in dhewm 3 the cyberdemon appears to move fast but I could be wrong
stuck lion
It took me a hot minute to figure out I was supposed to use the soul cube on it
slim rose
wow this is gonna be hard to beat
throws 3 soul cubes and wins
pfffff
versed estuary
Itās legs fell asleep waiting for Soky
stuck lion
I used up all my bfg ammo on it for no reason
Oh yeah I had a bfg,,, I have no idea from where
slim rose
ye basically all your weapons are useless
stuck lion
The crosshair not turning red when I shot him tipped me off
I thought I had to get him into that pentagram thing and push him in the lava pit in the middle or smth
slim rose
its really a puzzle
huh none of my guns did anything and ive been running in circles for 20 minutes
frozen nova
i can mod you the game to allow killing the cyberdemon with weapons
but youll need the original release
slim rose
you should mod so fists only
stuck lion
Rip I got bfg
slim rose
its harder to find the older one though, or at least its only physical
or downloaded in a not so secure place
frozen nova
fun thing with this mod is that you can kill it with the soul cube OR weapons
stuck lion
its on steam no?
slim rose
MULTIPLE disks ftw
frozen nova
the soul cube does about 1000 damage minimum
slim rose
im pretty sure steam only has bfg
stuck lion
Steam has normal doom 3 too, just checked
frozen nova
the cyberdemon by default has 4000 health
frozen nova
but the cyberdemon has a flag set that it can only be damaged by the soul cube
if you disable that flag you can kill it with any weapon
but it also helps to buff its health so you could potentially use both
stuck lion
How do I disable
frozen nova
?
slim rose
is there a console command for that?
stuck lion
ah right forgot
frozen nova
and install a simple mod
scenic stratus
Steam has bfg and original. It's gog that only has bfg unfortunately, I strongly prefer gog over steam
restive delta
Yeah I noticed BFG Edition gives you like 1 auto-save, and one quick-save
Which kinds sucks if you overwrite
stuck lion
I have 3 saves
restive delta
Vanilla didn't have auto-saves to be fair, but at least it kept a save at the start of every single level
Oh really? How did you do that?
stuck lion
One auto save and 2 quick saves
restive delta
I see. I guess I didn't use a second quick-save
But still, if you don't quick-save and then start a different campaign, you're screwed
It does say it'll over-write, but still
stuck lion
I'm fine with losing my main campaign, pretty sure I overwrote it
restive delta
Which is annoying considering they actually put checkpoints in, so don't expect you to use quick-save
boreal adder
yeah, I did like in the original how the the different level autosaves would work kinda like a map select if you wanted to replay some part of the game you liked
such as communications transfer XD
boreal adder
hah, I was just thinking, Doom 3 rules might be a good thing to have for Doctor Who going forward
as in, the Doctor can use their sonic screwdriver, or defeat their enemies, but not both at once š
rocky acorn
Doom 3 is finished.
Took like 6 shots of soul cube to finish off cybie.
I'm feeling good about Resurrection of Evil tho.
rocky acorn
Mm, ok, having a problem where I can't make the game borderless windowed for easy alt-tabbing.
Doom 3 does, but RoE doesn't.
boreal adder
I'm confused, 'cause I could never alt-tab out of doom 3. just wouldn't work š
that said I never really wanted to
rocky acorn
I was using Borderless Gaming.
nimble wren
the only solution seems to be going to windowed mode with alt+enter
faint owl
Doom 3 with no hud is awesome š
restive delta
I never tried any borderless app on that, so I can't say. But if you didn't set it up for the RoE executable too, that would be why. If you did, then I don't know
hexed pecan
Bfg edition >>
rocky acorn
Both Doom 3 and RoE use the same executable.
restive delta
Oh it's an icon, I thought there was a separate executable
I guess check your d3xp folder to see if there are any auto exec configs, could be a fullscreen command in there
I have "auto.cfg" and "AutoExec.cfg" in mine, and I don't know if I created both of those manually. Also if you own them through Steam, there could be a fullscreen command in the start-up settings.
rocky acorn
Actually i've found that alt-tab does absolutely nothing in RoE.
Even if I run the game in a bordered window.
restive delta
Interesting. I just got used to quitting the games if I really had to get out, since it seemed as fast / faster than alt-tab as standard
rocky acorn
Eugh. I think I am just going to skip Resurrection of Evil. It's too much trouble to get it playable, it's not even the same doom man marine guy, and with PD3, the videos on the video discs won't play.
versed estuary
Ouch RoE was arguably a million times better than the main campaign
rocky acorn
My only memories of RoE are the grabber, woman scientist and the final boss fight.
I'm sure it's good, but if I can't make PD3 RoE edition work with it, i'm probably gonna not bother. I quite enjoyed my time with Doom 3, but that's likely enough.
I'm off to Doom 64, it seems.
green wave
i've just finished doom 3 and was kinda bored with the monster closets
wasnt scared, just pick up anything and like 2 or 3 imps spawn over and over again
plus shotgun spread is just way to big
i do like the shotgun sound though in the bfg edition
brisk gulch
I adore roe
native kettle
Honestly doom 3 still looks beautiful by todays standards.
boreal adder
I like 'em too, especially when enemies react as though their in the dark. I hate stealth mechanics but I like sneaking in a naturalistic, non-necessary way
unfortunately demons can see in the dark, cause they're demons
but it still looks nice
I played another game recently with a very similar shadowy aesthetic
boreal adder
only for mods, and only as an "experiment"
decided I liked the original d3 for mods better
rancid bobcat
I wonder... if RBDOOM 3 will run with "Doom 3" on bethesda.net
(the "Doom 3" is a Doom 3 which is separated from the BFG edition)
it.. did?
yeah it works
but language set to japanese for some reason
I also highly rec dhewm3, which is a source port for the original doom3 that allows you a 16:9 res with no UI stretching
fully voiced too 
scenic stratus
Should we pretend doom 3 didnāt existed or just
dark knot
Mmmm... no, still here
dark knot
You cant stop the rng dependent shotgun, no one can
scenic stratus
Underrated*
dark knot
Definitely, it was the last doom game I heard of, seriously, I heard of 64 before doom 3
slim rose
Neat!
slim rose
^
dark knot
I mean, I'd consider doom 64 the most underrated doom game, but doom 3 still needs more credit, it gave us a lot of tech that we now take for granted,( and an original design for the hell knight)
Like texture lighting for example,
slim rose
What i think is cool is that Half Life 2 was released 1 month after Doom 3
scenic stratus
Nah I liked doom 64
slim rose
If i had to compare, I think doom 3 looks better, probably because it wasnt so....square?
dark knot
That's cool, I think every doom game had it's ups and downs, I cant even decide on a favorite
dark knot
Wanst doom 3 one the xbox one? ( I'm getting my dates mixed)
coral solstice
actually, 3 was on the very original Xbox
and it was a damn good port for its time, too
dark knot
*dammit I meant original xbox
coral solstice
the Xbox version of ROE actually came with 1 and 2 as well
IIRC those versions of 1 and 2 had the slowed-down music the 2019 ports initially used
scenic stratus
That reminds me
slim rose
@dark knot its ok. You just have to say one box x one x x box
scenic stratus
Anyone else excited for RE3 REmake
coral solstice
the BFG versions of 1 and 2 have the music at the correct speed, but at the cost of them being GUS recordings instead of SC-55 (or MS GS Wavetable, which is basically a grainy SC-55)
scenic stratus
That original Xbox port is super underrated. It fixed that issue with armor never really degrading too much and made it slightly more effective
dark knot
Indeed, what's up with the bfg version of the classic dooms, like, you cant complete half the secrets there because you fall too fast or something
coral solstice
IIRC the BFG ports actually run in an id Tech 4 framework and render to a texture
scenic stratus
I didn't hear about that, did they screw up the physics or something?
slim rose
i never played RE. But I watched for the X memes
dark knot
(I still play bfg edition cuz I dont want to feel like I'm wasting my 360)
boreal adder
I can't decide on a favourite doom either. I can decide on a least favourite, but even that's muddled cause it had some really good parts
(and spoiler alert the least favourite is not Doom 3 XD)
scenic stratus
I can't say there's a bad doom game but I definitely know my least favorite haha
versed estuary
My least favorite is final doom
And doom 2
My top favorites are doom 2026 and 3
frozen nova
My favorite is Doom 69
slim rose
I like Doom
scenic stratus
My least favorite is 2016, but that's mostly due to lack of replayability. I found and did everything my first playthrough
boreal adder
doom 2026 bob? if you've been to the future, you gotta share
versed estuary
Itās the sequel to doom eternal. Thatās all I can say
boreal adder
have to wait six years? ouch
versed estuary
If you think eternal looks good lol you havenāt seen ANYTHING
scenic stratus
Damn a 6 year wait in between games?
versed estuary
For the new deep dive technology yes
restive delta
Well I streamed The Lost Mission as my second playthrough today, and it took me just over one and a half hours... so there's your benchmark @stuck lion
versed estuary
thatās about a month soky time
restive delta
I think my first one took two and a half hours from what I remember of the auto-save time. How I managed to take a whole hour extra I don't know. Sure I listened to some logs and that video, but that's not worth much
boreal adder
no, there weren't many in TLM
the one with the construction supervisor guy was pretty funny though
and if you listen to it right as you pick it up it lets you know exactly what's about to happen in the next room, and exactly which enemy will do it
restive delta
Yeah I loved that, it was epic
boreal adder
...stupid... stupid architect
the revenants are all his fault
I'm dead now and it's all the stupid architect's fault
Folsom out!
restive delta
dawn jetty
So question, sorry new here
I heard that the BFG Doom 3 wasn't that compatible with mods and what not, is it the same case with the Doom 3 that Bethesda has on their site?
I don't care too much about mods just curious for once I finish the standard Doom 3 for the first time.
coral solstice
yes
frozen nova
og Doom 3 was before bethesda acquisition
its the only version with proper mod support
BFG ed has its own set of mods I think, old mods are not compatible
boreal adder
BFG edition can run some old mods if you set it up right. I forget where or how
tried it a little bit and decided og doom 3 was better for the mods
nimble wren
they removed the editor command from BFG, I know that
sourcerports can re-enable it, such as Classic RBDoom3BFG
frozen nova
bfg ed just doesnt feel like Doom 3 to me
nimble wren
if you played the original first, then yeah, it would
dawn jetty
So is the Bethesda Doom 3 just the BFG Edition but with a different title in the menu?
nimble wren
yes, and without the classic games
because it corresponds to the re-release on consoles
scenic stratus
get og d3 if you care about mods, it's the most compatible
dawn jetty
I don't really care that much about the mods, I bought Doom 3 just to play Doom 3 and because of the Eternal skins, was just curious if the version I bought was moddable though in case I was interested in the future.
boreal adder
long story short, it probably is but it's probably complicated
don't expect to just download a mod and play it over an afternoon. expect to spend the afternoon figuring out how to set it up ;)
and no I unfortunately can't help with that part
dawn jetty
Yeah sounds fine, thanks for the answer, I appreciate it.
heady vortex
killed the saboath - aka proto doom hunter and got the BFG
however I haven't found the SMG since I lost it coming back from hell. it is very annoying
frozen nova
saboath is actually more of a Quake 2 monster than a proto doomhunter
heady vortex
so maybe I do not see it again ...
random scaffold
So if i play doom 3 in the bethesda Launcher do i still get the skin in eternal in Steam?
pseudo pivot
As long as you connect your Slayers Club account in DOOM 3, you can claim the skin in whatever version of DOOM Eternal you want. They do have a version on Bethesda Launcher that has the necessary connectivity, so if that's the version of DOOM 3 that you have, then yes. š
dawn jetty
Speaking of such
When I try to connect my Slayer Club account to Doom 3 it gives me a server error of sorts.
Works for Doom 1 and 2 though.
rancid bobcat
TIL xbox Resurrection of Evil bolts the flashlight onto the pistol
short blade
Do I need DooM3 BFG for that?
Because I just have the base DooM3 and DooM3: RoE from Steam
oh wait you're talking in Bethesda's launcher.....darn
rancid bobcat
Its a bit messy, yeah
short blade
Welp I've already asked it, so since I have connected my slayer's club to my steam, would it still recognize that I have it?
rancid bobcat
When you launch Eternal it should have a login page for bethesda.net account
My guess
short blade
I mean recognizing that I have Doom 3 and RoE on steam as opposed to on the Bethesda launcher.
rancid bobcat
Oh. No.
Give zenimax money for that specific ripped out doom 3 release 
Its functionally almost the same as Doom 3 from BFG edition sans multiplayer, 3d support and Doom 1-2
short blade
Well that's a bit of an oversight
rancid bobcat
Whatās messed up is that the olā Doom 3 BFG Edition is not eligible for skins either
short blade
Yeah that's so dumb
rancid bobcat
I am more interested to know if the switch ports made the skins available on pc or not
And if I duplicated those skins with pc versions
short blade
Bet you they aren't. Gotta shell out that sweet sweet pocket money for more copies you know?
restive delta
I highly suspect it'll unlock the skins for whatever platform, since if you're using the same Bethesda account for Eternal, it's going to link it
Whether you can use the same account for multiple platforms when it comes to Eternal, I don't know
native kettle
I think that one of the reasons Doom 3 failed, on top of being so drastically different from the beloved originals, was because of the lackluser art design. HL2's technology wasn't as good, but it had much better art design and visual variety. In HL2, you've got urbanized cities, ghost towns, sewers, beautiful beaches, etc. In D3 there's steel corridors and occasionally a bunch of red rock that which you can't even spend that much time in unless you want to suffocate.
rancid bobcat
How many copies did Doom 3 sell?
By the beginning of 2007, over 3.5 million copies of Doom 3 had been sold worldwide, making it the most successful project by id Software to date.
define "failed"
because that can mean different things to people
rancid bobcat
Hell in Doom 3 is breathtaking
and even if a lot of stuff feels severely dated (like really low res textures) the lighting engine still holds up
limpid phoenix
Doom 3 hell feels like youāre walking through Danteās inferno
A very biblical hell
In some ways itās more enjoyable then later editions where hell is just an alien world
frozen nova
I wasnt down with D4's hell
it wasnt very hellish
frozen nova
Biblical hell was plagiarized from Zoroastrian hell
limpid phoenix
Iām not Christian I aināt know that
frozen nova
a realm of darkness
scenic stratus
Pretty unlikely considering Zoroastrism was Persian afaik
rancid bobcat
I didn't feel like Doom 3 lacked environment variety too much, even if 70% of the game is variation on sci-fi labs
charred fox
I think doom 3 hell was pretty void like but last one I played was ROE
slim rose
the hell was cool imo
boreal adder
I liked 2016's hell... it felt more like a real place
scenic stratus
"Doom 3 failed"
Stopped reading, he has no idea what he's talking about.
dark knot
Indeed, anybody who says doom 3 failed is dead wrong, to a heavy rng shotgun
coral solstice
Doom 3 was a goddamn masterpiece
dark knot
Indeed it was, it has some flaws, but overall its damn good, it really gave doom a new turn as a franchise, and gave us a lot of new tech, damn whoever says the world would be better without doom 3 is insane or something
rancid bobcat
feel like its about the fan reception in the long run, and the game DID put tech over gameplay
and the spoops felt really old but not to 12 yo me
coral solstice
both 3 and 64 are the last pieces of evidence that Doom isn't just action IMO
dark knot
I good spice of horror, but still packed with action
rancid bobcat
it does gloriously picks up at the second half though, and for majority of RoE
if there is one thing I absolutely hate though is that this game has the ouroboros of game design.. the flashlight
"wtf its stupid why they don't ductape the flashlight in 22nd century"
it gets mounted in BFG edition
"wtf you made the game less tense and ruined it"
this savage cycle, man
I do like that xbox RoE mounted it to a pistol
dark knot
Mhm, though I do like the mounted flashlight
rancid bobcat
||and tbf BFG got a lot more going on than mounting the flashlight that alters the experience in weird ways||
||like dead bodies everywhere in RoE so you end up fisting everything in that campaign||
coral solstice
||it made things too easy and actually cut out ROE's blue arena in the Hell map||
dark knot
Yeah, bfg does have a lot of flaws,
It doesn't even stop there, it goes into the classic dooms as well
rancid bobcat
but hey, ||you can play Map 02 Underhalls over and over again!||
its kind of weird that the current doom 3 on bethesda store is better value than getting the entire BFG edition
I kinda wonder if my fascination with doom 3 ties to the fact that Dead Space 1 is one of my favorite sci fi horror games..
dark knot
I find doom 3 fascinating through the demon design, I take heavy inspiration from doom 3s art style, like, the way demons are built and such
short blade
So I noticed that Doom 3 BFG edition comes with Doom I and II, does that mean that if you buy Doom 3 BFG you can get the other skins too?
rancid bobcat
no
that collection didn't get updated with Slayer's Club goodies
the only way to get skins on PC is to get the Doom 1 and 2 Unity ports and "Doom 3" on bethesda.net client
and frankly you are WAY better off getting these three specific releases because Doom 1 and 2 ports in Doom 3 BFG are .. "sub par" compared to anything else and all for a higher price
scenic stratus
They're censored in bfg edition, among other issues.
Also totally agree about the flashlight, it ruined the tension of having to choose between the safety of a gun or the safety of light
rancid bobcat
alternatively if you have a switch/ps4 you're eligible for skins no matter the platform
restive delta
Yeah the DOOM 3 version in the Beth store is great value considering it's essentially the BFG Edition without DOOM and DOOM II
scenic stratus
Doesn't it cut d3s multiplayer too?
short blade
Damn so you actually have to buy each individual game.
scenic stratus
Huh this chat is still alive
dark knot
Mhm, you cant kill doom 3
scenic stratus
@scenic stratus D3 BFG is missing one map compared to Doom 3 + Resurrection of Evil
restive delta
If you want all the skins, yes. But together they cost less than the BFG Edition on Bethesda, and not a massive amount more than the BFG Edition on Steam
scenic stratus
(multiplayer)
restive delta
It depends what you own already to whether it's really worth it
scenic stratus
I know about the missing level
I was talking about d3s deathmatch. Afaik the latest Bethesda release (not bfg) cut it entirely.
short blade
And the BFG edition will get you the skin too?
Because not gonna lie, through the 3 skins, Doom 3 is one I would actually care about
restive delta
I only got all of them as they were a third off in that sale a few weeks ago for the Australia fire relief, plus I never played the Lost Mission. Oh and I think there might be some levels in the DOOM II port that are normally hard to find so I haven't played yet, I forgot what they're called though
short blade
But you know I'm mainly doing it for the game
restive delta
No, avoid the BFG Edition on the Bethesda store. It won't give you the skin. Get the one called DOOM 3 instead - it's basically the BFG Edition without DOOM and DOOM II. But it's the one that will give you the skin for Eternal
cerulean stratus
It's a newer PC port
restive delta
This is the one you need: https://bethesda.net/en/store/product/DO3GNGPCBG01
cerulean stratus
BFG is an older port
restive delta
I think they renamed it because the BFG Edition was technically a package with 1 and 2 included, and specifically for XB360 and PS3
short blade
Right, but I mean does it do everything that BFG does?
except the package i mean mechanics
restive delta
This port is for XB1, PS4 and Switch (plus PC)
cerulean stratus
There's no multiplayer in the new DOOM 3 port
restive delta
Apart from that it's the same as the BFG Edition though - mounted flashlight, different lighting, 3, RoE and Lost Mission included
short blade
Ah thank you
cerulean stratus
You don't get DOOM or DOOM II either
short blade
Yeah that's fine considering I wouldn't get the skins with them anyways
and I don't play doom for its multiplayer anyways
scenic stratus
Wait isn't that "new Doom 3" just the BFG edition?
short blade
That's what they said yee
Except without the package of Doom 1 and 2 and multiplayer
short blade
And for 10 bucks that doesn't seem bad
cerulean stratus
Nope not at all
restive delta
It worked out pretty well for me - I never got the BFG Edition since it seemed pretty pricey at the time when all I'd get is the Lost Mission. So this new port was perfect at the price, especially since I got it on sale
short blade
I might do the same thing
hoping that the skin thing stays even AFTER the release of eternal
and that buying eternal on steam didn't screw me
restive delta
At full price the BFG Edition on Steam is nearly twice the price as the new DOOM 3 port, which is pretty crazy really
short blade
I mean it is 20 bucks on bethesda too
and it is still old on both
Unless they changed it
restive delta
Nah you should be fine with the skins since you'll log in with your Bethesda account for Eternal whatever platform
Yeah in the UK it's even crazier on Beth - BFG Edition there is Ā£20, compared to Ā£8 for the new port. And BFG is Ā£15 on Steam
Pretty mad since these days 2016 is Ā£15 too
short blade
Yeah that's kinda weird
slim rose
whyd they have to made it so confusing
short blade
For the money šš¼ššš¼ š°
restive delta
It kind of seems pointless that the have the BFG Edition on Beth now. You'd think they could retire it with the new port. I guess they list it since presumably it's still being sold for XB360 and PS3
short blade
You'd think since the package doesn't even give you versions of the game that can be used for Eternal skins
restive delta
The way they called the new port "DOOM 3" on the store is confusing though I agree, because by the name you think you're getting the original DOOM 3
Yeah, for PC there's no reason for them to provide the BFG Edition on there now
short blade
Yeah and even then it is DooM 3, but with all the changes from the BFG edition having be considered "New"
Could just call it like Doom 3: Updated or something like that
Still showing that it has stuff like RoE
would be funny if they saw this
restive delta
Yes, considering the description says "Celebrate DOOM's 25th anniversary with the release of DOOM 3." They could have called it DOOM 3: 25th Anniversary Edition or something (even though it's not the 25th anniversary of 3 of course)
The details make you realise at least since is says "DOOM 3 includes the Resurrection of Evil and The Lost Missions expansion packs."
But if you just go by the title you could miss that and get the BFG Edition which is essentially pointless
unique ridge
It's even more confusing
scenic stratus
so does the doom 3 on the bethesda store include ROE? or is it just base game?
unique ridge
The original Doom 3 is the one with the flashlight and less ammo, the bfg edition was the one described above, and the one that's now just called "Doom 3" again is the BFG edition without Doom 1, 2, and multiplayer and has the Eternal benefits
dark knot
No, you should only get the red alternative
scenic stratus
AWWW so I have to buy Doom1,2 and 3?
jesus.... that sucks considering I own all 3 on steam already
dark knot
I'd say it's worth it, it's doom were talking about
slim rose
sounds more like Bethesda we're talkin bout
dark knot
True...
scenic stratus
True that.... 20 bucks for 3 skins? I mean I am all about some cool skins but talk about screwing over the folks that supported you already on steam
rotund trench
it's basically like paying 5 dollars per skin, and then 10 dollars for the doom 3 skin
slim rose
i think you guys could buy some good eternal dlc with 20 dollars
rotund trench
I got the re-releases on my switch anyway so it wasn't a big deal to me
dark knot
True, now that I think about it, so, we do have to buy dlc
rotund trench
but I really wish the steam releases got Bethesda linking, but Bethesda would have made less money that way
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
terse marsh
I dont care about the classic skins
scenic stratus
I more like the card backs than the skin
slim rose
they arnt really great. Tbh i do like zombie slayer more lol
scenic stratus
just mind boggling that would not bring the collection to steam or offer it for steam users who already own it
rotund trench
for me it's about having everything
I probably won't really use the skins, but I do want them
scenic stratus
well they got me..... I just bought all 3
short blade
Wait.....so are we going to get a Doom 3: 30th year edition too? /s
meager pine
Quick question: Does Doom 3 have any form of Combat music? Cause the only music I've heard from the rerelease on Xbox is just the menu
versed estuary
Hmmm no?
I think it just the level music,
Since its supposed to set a level of ambiance to the horror. I could be wrong tho.
short blade
No it does not
meager pine
hidden elm
Does Doom 3 require WiFi to play like D1 and D2?
rancid bobcat
ha ha ha ha HA
I knew this "new" doom 3 would throw some confusion
basically, remember the xbo/ps4/switch versions of doom 1-3 released 6 months ago? its a pc version of that.
Doom 3 does occasionally have combat music, but its so rare
hidden elm
Lemme fix that cuz I forgot to add some details: Do you need WiFi to play Doom 3 on the switch?
hidden elm
Ah thanks, cuz I canāt play D1 or D2 when Iām away from home unless Iām connected to WiFi
rancid bobcat
updates should've mitigated that..
hidden elm
Iāll test it out
restive delta
Well to be fair, as discussed in here about 11 hours ago, it is a confusing name. But once you look into the details you can see what the version includes anyway
I doubt I'll use the skins much either since there are plenty of cool skins anyway, but I have made use of The Lost Mission which I never played before, plus I'll play the Master Levels or whatever it is you get with the DOOM II port
ember sentinel
Just beat Doom 3 again. Yeet. Now i just need 64 and Eternal to complete the franchise.
plush tiger
It's also not true. You never needed to be connected to wifi to play the Switch ports of Doom 1/2 outside of first boot up
I still don't understand how that misconception thrived
did people just not try?
ember sentinel
Doom 3 does have combat music rarely, in the big server room where the Chaingunners, Archvile, and Revenant spawn before you fight Sabaoth
honest lynx
The first time you hear that archvile .... good times
ember sentinel
That creepy laugh is not fun lol
honest lynx
I remember just bfg'n that fool and yeeting him across the room
ember sentinel
My Soul Cube was saved especially for them. If not then a steady stream of Plasma to the face at point blank range.
Imagine if they put Pain Elementals in Doom 3 
scenic stratus
A few mods put it in
oak copper
Is there a mod that makes the game more like 2016/ the older games. You know has actual action
scenic stratus
Tweak Sikkmod settings
honest lynx
@oak copper you dont like jump scares ?!?!?!
oak copper
That's not the issue. It's just incredibly jank. The shooting feels wrong
honest lynx
I think the point is to feel like a weak janky marine just trying to survive
oak copper
I guess. Just feels so not Doom
versed estuary
Doom universe, but you are just a soldier, no one special
ember sentinel
It definitely feels like Doom in the second half. You can run and blast through it like usual
oak copper
Is Perfected Doom more like the other games?
oak copper
Really
oak copper
Ok
coral solstice
it kept corrupting its quicksaves for me
scenic stratus
For me Berserk doesn't work
Which breaks Hell
plush tiger
Doom 3's pretty easy overall
frozen nova
try nightmare
scenic stratus
Still pretty easy, you get the soul cube from the start
restive delta
Yeah, the veteran difficulty could be more spicy if you ask me
plush tiger
yeah exactly
restive delta
And yes there is kind of music in DOOM 3, but it's mostly ambient industrial kinda stuff
I'm tempted to try RoE without using the artifact. That could be pretty interesting
Guess I'd need it for a few of the traps, but beyond that I guess it would be plausible
ember sentinel
Veteran was a cakewalk
stiff slate
roe is a tiny bit harder in nightmare with no source of healing except for the medical consoles
when you get enough upgrades for the artifact its ez though
restive delta
Does the artifact not start fully loaded for nightmare then?
frozen nova
holy shit
rancid bobcat
It should be a 10 million subscriber goal
rancid bobcat
Good video
Doom 3 is a good game but not gonna lie its shotgun deserves the flak it gets
not the ssg tho, thatās still bae
frozen nova
thats RoE
pure wagon
Pro ROE wen
frozen nova
the shotgun is fixable pretty easily at least the spread
I dunno about the rng, I think thats hardcoded
but I can increase the base damage per pellet
versed estuary
Sounds like that can be broken tho
frozen nova
what do you mean?
I can adjust the number of pellets, the base damage of the pellets, and the spread
versed estuary
You said increase damage of pellet, so I thought like walking up one spotting pinkies kinda op
frozen nova
by default
pellets - 13
damage - 14 per pellet
spread - 22(!)
versed estuary
22 definitely feels higher
versed estuary
Much more reasonable
frozen nova
damage is still a little too much at that point
so what I did was
pellets - 14
damage - 10 per pellet
spread - 5
though im not a good judge of weapon balance if I make it myself
slim rose
those are some....nice bricks
scenic stratus
Context?
nimble wren
I can't stand looking at the fists
the finger posing is terrible
it even clips into the palm
scenic stratus
I agree
slim rose
you gotta admit the swoosh sounds are on point tho
scenic stratus
The fists themselves are fine as weapons
nimble wren
it's the angle of the first set of finger joints
it's way too steep
scenic stratus
Doom 3 Berserk is best berserk unless Eternal outclasses it in awesome
You were a perfectly normal marine, two seconds ago. Now you're ripping apart Knights with your bare hands, and all your weapons instakill 99% of the monsters
Agreed. And it was great how it made other weapons more effective
Doom3guy with Berserk VS Doomslayer would be the ultimate FPS battle
slim rose
aaaaaaaahayaaahahahah,a ahhhhhaaaa aaaaahhhhh ahhahhaah
^ Doom 3 in a nutshell
who ever did the berserk scream š
frozen nova
Enabling weapon damage on and doubling the health of the cyberdemon, while doubling the kills required to charge the soul cube changes the final boss battle dramatically
it also makes the soul cube more valuable as a tool rather than just a means of deleting one enemy
scenic stratus
Aight can I do that with Sikkmod? 
frozen nova
about the only thing I liked was being able to carry medkits
but the game is easy enough as is
scenic stratus
There's also Pain Elementals and other classic enemy renditions
Which is cool
I just don't get what percentage I have to set for them
boreal adder
I played a mod called Phobos recently that ended with a really cool very Doom 3-ish rendition of the pain elemental
I don't know if it would be the same one though... had lots of tentacles š
scenic stratus
Still need to try out Phobos. Does it run in vanilla or does it need Dhewm3?
frozen nova
Phobos does not run on dhewm3
its one of the reasons i havent tried it yet
once you go dhewm3 you cant go back to vanilla
rocky acorn
Despite me having officially moved on to Doom 64, I have decided that the re-release of Doom 3 is enough for me to revisit it on vanilla, as well as actually go through with Resurrection of Evil. The Lost Missions thing will be a nice side-dish too, to see me through the rest of february.
Also what is Dhewm3
frozen nova
dhewm3 is a doom 3 source port
scenic stratus
Supports very little mods, but overall cool
little raven
What does it do
frozen nova
fix bugs, improve some compatibility stuff
little raven
Ah
rocky acorn
Ah, oki. Actually, I don't need to replay Doom 3 for real. I could just do RoE.
frozen nova
I did notice some minor differences from vanilla
for example some odd enemy behavior is no longer present
frozen nova
of course its not like the game content is changed
little raven
Aids that have cancer
scenic stratus
Does it improve the ugly and lowres menu?
frozen nova
the menu is low res?
civic stirrup
The shotgun really looks like the one from fortnite lmao
frozen nova
scenic stratus
Funny that you did not consider the opposite
orchid frost
Hey i heard Dr.Malcom working 16 hours a day to debug the teleportation device issuse on delta 4
civic stirrup
What a nerd
oak copper
I'm playing Doom 3 with Realistic weapons mod now and honestly now it's fun to play
plush tiger
I always thought the shotgun looked like the one from House of the Dead 3
Doom 3 Alpha was the better shotgun
rocky acorn
Gonna be honest, I kinda hate using the Grabber against those blue-fire imps.
Whatever the fuck they're called. Honestly the grabber is finnicky there just in general.
slim rose
just punch them to death
rocky acorn
Uhhhh no?
slim rose
uhh yee
uhhh no
slim rose
~give berserk
rocky acorn
Not asking for advice. Just stating a fact.
slim rose
id rather have berserk and scream at them like a psychopath
rocky acorn
e_e
slim rose
i wanna to a VR mod playthrough of 3 but i feel lazy
scenic stratus
They're called Vulgars
slim rose
i just call them White-Version-Of-Alien-But-Throws-Blue-Fireballs-And-Has-Eyeballs
rocky acorn
Vulgars yes. I hate Vulgars.
coral solstice
fun fact: their model was originally the model for 3's Arch-Vile
boreal adder
I like Vulgar, but I'm glad he's not Arch Vile
that wouldn't look right
dark knot
What's a vulgar? I'm getting mixed with names
boreal adder
he's harder than imps mostly because the crawling stance makes him harder to hit
dark knot
That, was supposed to be the archvile?
For once I feel bad for archviles, that was a design option
frozen nova
slim rose
LOL
frozen nova
If you enable weapon damage on the cyberdemon in doom 3 and kill it, it tries to ragdoll but it gets confused and goes into a t-pose at the same time
rocky acorn
Lol that is great. That's like when you find an angry cat hissing at you, and you make it stop by spritzing it with water
frozen nova
I just realized why the super shotgun didnt make it into doom 3 vanilla
in doom 3 weapons dont share ammo
every weapon runs off its own ammo type
they wanted to keep that consistent probably
rocky acorn
Too bad they made the shotgun useless outside of coughing distance.
charred fox
Reminds me of those goats that freeze and topple over when they hear something loud
frozen nova
cyberdemon has no death animation outside of the cutscene that triggers only in the last level
charred fox
Lol
indigo plover
doom 3 cyberdemon vs doom 2016 doomslayer
scenic stratus
Cyber, he can't be hurt by anything but the soul cube
frozen nova
^
slim rose
^
restive delta
Just make the 3 Cyber the BFG Edition one, then 2016 will win easy
I'm kind of interested in their heights actually. The cut-scene makes the 3 one look massive, and when you're in that huge cavern it still does. But when spawned in like SuperVision's video, I guess they're pretty similar in height. Maybe the 3 one is a bit taller since it doesn't hunch so much
rancid bobcat
original Doom 3 via dhewm3
also, gonna play with cheats a bit longer
this new transfer is exceptionally rude
STOP IT
restive delta
rocky acorn
Reached the hell part of Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil. The Bloodstone is a bit unbalanced ainnit, even on Veteran.
rancid bobcat
BFG Edition?
I'm bored
starting a new playthrough through dhewm3
magazines, PDAs
what is this, 22nd century envisioned by people in mid 2000s?
4:3 monitors EVERYWHERE
one really cool thing about dhewm3 is that it brings back the EAX support, metal hallways have great echoing effect
rocky acorn
No, re-release.
rancid bobcat
so, technically still BFG Edition
rocky acorn
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
rancid bobcat
Why is Martian Buddy lockers code ||0508|| not a pin for this channel?
restive delta
I wonder if anyone saved the Martian Buddy website
Fortunately I played enough I remember the code For the BFG Edition they put it in the email subject anyway, since the website got yeeted by then
restive delta
Nice
strange haven
I guess this works too
@rancid bobcat And the ROE version is archived too, code 634 and a hint: http://web.archive.org/web/20070804045719/http://www.martianbuddy.com/blaster.html
restive delta
I don't even remember the one in RoE
limpid phoenix
Code ||0508|| unlocks just one of them tho right?
restive delta
No, both Martian Buddy ones in DOOM 3 have the same code
restive delta
Yes, first one (in Administration) has ||the chaingun|| second one (in Delta 2b) has ||the BFG||
wet gorge
I still wish doom 3 had subtitles, and i mean as an update, not a mod
And if classic doom 1 and 2 have an option to use cheat codes but with achivements turned off, why canāt they do the same for doom 3 and 2016?
versed estuary
It just wasnāt a priority. Nothing else to it
frozen nova
maybe if devs didnt lock down all their games with arcane compression and encryptions we wouldnt have this problem
rocky acorn
Well, hit the Hell stage on RoE. Let's see if I can polish this bad boy off.
rocky acorn
Go down like a beetch, Maelbolge and Bertruger.
rocky acorn
Now for Lost Mission.
little raven
Just played with cheat codes no one thought to put in a reaction when you blow up someone right next to another person
rocky acorn
And Lost Mission is done.
Wow, less than 3 hours for the whole thing lol
With that said i've finished up with all the Doom 3 shiz.
restive delta
Yeah Lost Mission is pretty short
rocky acorn
I mostly enjoyed it, although there was this one room where I got back to back archviles in a small room. That was cheap.
versed estuary
Killing all people in doom 3 is mercy change my mind
Since at the end they mention you are the only survivor. Meaning everyone you met dies anyway
rocky acorn
What's funny about that is how Lost Mission kinda retcons that in it's ending.
rocky acorn
For me, it's using hand grenades on the zombie sec
versed estuary
NPCs. Man another survivor. I thought I was alone
Shotgun meet man
Lowkey I did it just to see if they indeed died. And well it worked
slim rose
Lol both Halflife and this game. "I thought i was alone, Ima just stay here and wait for help" pumps shotgun and shreads him
Nope!
restive delta
yeah I love spamming z-sec with nades
I don't mind the archies quite so much in the Lost Mission, since if you get close the double barrel can toast them in a few shots
rocky acorn
you have to basically kiss them on the cheek to reliably do so however.
dark knot
The shotguns in doom 3 are so bad it's funny, ligit they can form a perfect circle around the enemy
coral solstice
ROE's SSG really makes up for the regular shotgun
restive delta
And with berserk from the artifact, it's basically one shot on everything
limpid phoenix
How does the shotgun make so much noise and so little damage
vale kettle
I've never had those issues with the normal shotgun.
Of course If yall are talking doom 3 non bfg i wouldn't know I've only played the bfg edition and have scored over 25000 in super turbo turkey puncher 3
limpid phoenix
Is the rerelease good? Was thinking about getting it on switch
vale kettle
I want it on switch but I dont know if it works like bfg edition or just normal doom 3
Because the both work differently
scenic stratus
The rerelease is literally bfg edition with less features
vale kettle
Uhhhhhh so bfg mechanics???
scenic stratus
What
vale kettle
Or normal doom 3 mechanics
boreal adder
lol I just pictured a big engineer type with the BFG on one of those car lifts
poking at the underside in overalls
scenic stratus
It's bfg edition but it doesn't include the classics and doesn't have multiplayer. Other than that it's exactly the same
boreal adder
yes
I at least know that much for sure
vale kettle
Ooooooooooooooh
boreal adder
presumably with BFG's alterations to Resurrection of EVIL
no biosuit mechanics in the sewer level, no hell filter in Delta Labs, shortened Hell
probably because BFG can't run modded scripts
I remember that it can only run mods without custom scripts, anyway
wintry spruce
just finished my first playthrough. it took less than 9 hours in total. Cyberdemon was very underwhelming unfortunately
great horror game
not really Doom though
boreal adder
yeah unfortunately even those who love the game don't love the boss
I think it's fairly doom. not overwhelmingly doom. more Doom 1 ish than Doom 2 ish for sure
wintry spruce
finished Ep 3 of Doom 1 as well
boreal adder
but the emphasis is still more on you shooting the demons than you cowering in fear from them
I play Doom 3 and I still feel like I'm the one hunting
wintry spruce
there is an imp behind almost every door just waiting to pounce
and then it gets extremely predictable and annoying
didn't help with my phobia of spiders either
boreal adder
annoys some people, I can understand that. it doesn't annoy me
wintry spruce
its just that in those moments its a cheap hit that you have to take
boreal adder
I also don't find it very scary so I may be looking at it in a totally different way
honestly you can avoid the hit if you just expect there to always be an imp there
but that could still annoy some people
I like the game more when you get towards the middle and the end
wintry spruce
i find it scary as in I don't ever want to be there, plus the atmospheric sound track is pretty chilling
boreal adder
more of the tougher enemies start showing up
wintry spruce
I agree with you there
boreal adder
I'd compare it to doom 1 but not really Inferno, more like they tried to make Shores of Hell into a full game
wintry spruce
the hitscan soldiers and the ridiculous screen shake
boreal adder
yeah, when those start being replaced with the tentacle dudes then stuff gets interesting
wintry spruce
i found out that you can duck under the tentacles
boreal adder
š
wintry spruce
then it takes 5 shotgun shells or more because in this game the shotgun is T R A S H
boreal adder
honestly the tentacles would be a really interesting enemy to put in 2016 or Eternal, cause they're all about area denial
actually I always found if I shoot 'em once while they run at me and then one more time as I duck the tentacle they go down
...usually
wintry spruce
funny how I bought the BFG edition two years ago and only now finished Doom 3
maybe even earlier
at least I'm getting it done. Doom 1 episode 4 and the majority of Doom 2 to go
boreal adder
hah, Doom ep4 will wreck you
boreal adder
I only got through it once and I still don't know how
oh the second map's even more insane. cyberdemon
wintry spruce
was it McGee that did Episode 4?
boreal adder
you know, I don't actually know
:checks wiki:
yep looks like you're right
ooh, but not all of them
I'd say that's interesting, but, it's just a list of names
wintry spruce
and then he went on to do the Alice series that I love. especially Madness Returns
boreal adder
I really wanted to play those somehow. never got the chance at the time
wintry spruce
well he's working on a third entry as well as remasters of the first two I believe
haven't kept up since a few months ago
fallow ocean
If I played the BFG Edition all the way is playing the original game worth going back for?
boreal adder
depends who you ask
I like the original flashlight mechanic because I'm insane, and the original puts a little more emphasis on using it to hunt for ammo and supplies
but not much more
Resurrection of Evil also has a few good parts that were for some reason cut from the BFG release
on the other fork of the tail Lost Mission is a fairly fun couple hours š
so I would just say I'm glad I have both versions
plush tiger
I think BFG is a better game but it just comes down to like
Would you rather atmosphere or action
versed estuary
I donāt like games that are unnecessarily dark
Dark doesnāt equal scary.
Which is the issue with doom 64 and OG doom 3. They think dark equals scary
scenic stratus
I think doom 1 does that too on higher difficulties 
fallow ocean
What was removed from resurrection in the BFG Edition?
nimble wren
the "blue" part of Hell, I heard
coral solstice
that was one of the best parts of ROE
boreal adder
naw, dark doesn't equal scary, but dark is cool for dark's own sake sometimes
that's what Doom 3 does
then again I am a dangerous nocturnal beast so you go ahead and get all weak-fleshy-human-sunworshippy on me
if nothing else I'll eat well š
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Who knew doom 3 was VR ready game
I just played it in VR
why does doom 3 in VR beat hands down any AAAtitle made for VR to date
It even beats Bethesda's own take on Doom VR
you hear that Bethesda '' modders are doing a better job
we love your games and history ' At least i do '' but can you guys try just a lil harder
A lone modder just shat all over you guys
PS HIRE the modder
little raven
Vfr was a fucking joke wouldnāt be surprised if 3 was better in vr
little raven
No left handed mode seriously what were they thinking
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I had tears i my eyes cause my old man passed away before he could see it
it was that good
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The options they give you for VR
the moder thought of everything
he has options they dont give you in act titles
little raven
I think carmac left id to work with oculus so 
little raven
Were lucky to be in the universe where he makes doom instead of killing us all
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I like carmac
why do people say he is sellout
the guy just made the right steps in life
and now sits as he should
i mean how is that a sellout
boreal adder
like an infinite yardstick
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and what did he sellout
boreal adder
I mean, he is like an infinite yardstick
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yep lmfao
oh btw name of mod
Doom 3 BFG VR Fully possessed
updates now and then
it is pretty smack on atm
boreal adder
eeeh, I don't do VR. Too prone to migraines
I'd check it out if I did
but I need not head pain
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I have been too mars
i got too get out of here
XD I have seen shit man
soldiers with ptsd here's me' over here with D3ts
Id software needs too put up note under their main user
making D3 grate again
little raven
Letās not forget that Romeroās levels were the best in doom 1
limpid phoenix
Doom 2 earth levels were stinky
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yeah but i wish they would stop trying too recreate the first game over and over
yes its a classic yes it is doom
but ffs it is 2020
your asking for a 25 year old new game at this point
all it will do is make it into and arena arcade shooter
boreal adder
Doom 2 had a couple good Earth levels, but the city maps that were just square space with a few nonsensical buildings I had a hard time figuring out
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that will die and fail bad once everyone gets over the pun
little raven
Well the chasm is probably the worst level in all of video gaming history
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Doom 3 was going in the right direction
doom eternal has no future because it asked you too play a 25 yeal old game
little raven
It was great but the first half (the part Iām in) is kinda boring
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with some new tricks
little raven
Doom 3 is also pretty glitchy and the graphics aged like milk
scenic stratus
^
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at 2560
scenic stratus
Never experienced literally a single glitch in doom 3
little raven
How
scenic stratus
But idk about bfg edition, don't use it
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I could make it glitch
little raven
Im on vanilla constantly textures disappear go in and out like the game is having a stroke
Multiple crashes
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shotgun point blank too a skeleton near a wall in a corner was funny as hell
pun intended '
scenic stratus
That has never happened to me and I'm on the original too
little raven
And holy fuck those stupid ass spiders
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yeah man
waiting too run into that lvl in vr
act you just terrified me
AHHHHHHHHH and the dark walk AHHH
little raven
Lost souls are genuinely terrifying imo
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they came from doom 64
little raven
Same with those baby things
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the ones in doom3
little raven
Doom 64 is scarier then 3 most of the time
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they behave differently and have a familiar look
doom 3 is doom 64 imo
more so then classic
they took the sound scape thing
and ran with it '
little raven
3 is not the worst game but no where near the best
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nope
little raven
Better then thy flesh and tnt
little raven
Worse then 64 1 2 and 2016
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the sounds have been with me for years