#classic-doom-maps-mods | DOOM | Page 102

haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 4:51 AM

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yeah, that makes sense

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just a bit but it was a good trap

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it's literally the first map so it can be a tease of what's to come

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i liked the layout of both maps generally but now for the things i wanna point out, first with walkinthepark

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rip and tear

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walkinthepark is a huge empty cave (the archvile section) you could add more floors around it, there's a lot of oddities with textures that im sure one can not notice sometimes in their first time but is really important for improving, is good to keep practising, to point it in screenshots

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oh man, an extra layer of raised floor with monsters that disappears with the rest of the walls (lowering any monsters to the floor)... beauty

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when you make short stairs or short stacks of floors, you have to keep consistent, it is barely noticed on large stack of floors which is ok there, but when it comes to something like short stairs, it has to be a bit more consistent

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im not sure what is going on here

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it has a weird visual effect

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that's ok, if anyone playtest things, you're more likely to notice things you missed that you can improve

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or fix

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i was trying to break it up visually, poorly i guess

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oop

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you have the floor door texture different right next to the entrance

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literally just rechecked all of science for that

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that's very helpful! i didn't notice that ceiling thing at all (though the last room you have to run up is screwy in a few spots)

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huh, apparently my crusher textures are still moving. add that to the "i thought i fixed that" pile

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well a good ol john romero rule is always change floor texture when you change height, (side note that it's ok to not be strict always, so you can vary with being the same height depending the situation)

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haha yeah can happens

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that makes sense. it's not bad looking out from the little graveyard area, but facing it you can barely see the depth

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i wanted it to be a significant slope. moving on i'd just cave and use slopes i think, assuming they can be jagged like a descending hill

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i personally never got the appeal to use WALL textures on FLOORS, but i think it would be better when the wall texture is sorta square and in a nice loop when used in the floor, im not sure tho

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alrighty then

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the wavey one?

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the last screenshot yeah, where you use the brown wall stone

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i don't think i was satisfied with any cave floor i tried

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i could swear i saw that as a floor in a doom map. huh.

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oh

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could always try new textures than stock ones

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im wanting to map with the OTEX pack when i saw somebody's else work after i finish my vanill maps with stock textures

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i probably will, these are my first two maps so they were more about learning things

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sure thing

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yeahh, otex looks nice

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for both maps you did, lots of textures you need to adjust but im sure you can check that yourself

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oof

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this is why fresh eyes are awesome. thank you!

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aaaa

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just pointing out the most alerting ones, i could fill more uploads but no i dont wanna do that

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yeah those are already mid-fix

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ok the last one lol

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yeah that's gonna become 3d

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the whole cabin is rough as hell really

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its better to make it 3d than sticked to the wall yeah

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anyways, i was gonna point out the lightning now

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See all these torches? yeah they look alright, but they are missing to show that they are really lightning the sector, sometimes is good to give them a regular or small sized sector around these lightsources and increase the brightness to make it look that they are really lightning an area, this technique can work more on closed areas, valid on open areas but harder to pull since lightning will also show in ceiling if you put them on very tall sectors

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generally when it is wide open, you should brighten a big area rather than doing small sectors around them

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and make the adjacent sector darker, the one that is not iluminated

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some basic appealing for lightning that it will make it look good

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(i didnt load open gl lights but either way thats my tip)

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ohh, those i'd only actually added today after i started having gzdoom load lightmaps. it sort of backlights the imps etc while the rest of the cave remains gloomy

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i was having trouble seeing some of the imps before that. not sure if i could mess with sectors and use lighting / have it optional? worth looking into

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looks boring af without, i see now

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yeah i suppose you can also mess with dynamic lightning, which is pretty valid rather than using sectors but i wanted to give my opinion

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definitely, it looks bad like that

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haha i had to start taking notes for tomorrow's work. that's killer! thanks again. gonna crash now

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ok i think that was all i had to say, and no problem

haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 9:05 AM

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What custom vanilla-styled monsters you guys recommend?

lilac star Nov 20, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Recolors are always useful for that

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Easily doable with slade

haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Starting the second level of my wad, anyone want to test it later?

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Just to note, this will be my third public level

lilac star Nov 20, 2019, 7:38 PM

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If you flick me a link to the wad I can play it after work

haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 7:39 PM

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Sure, but for now on i'll be posting the early versions, MAP02 btw

lilac star Nov 20, 2019, 7:40 PM

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let me know when its close-ish to release, rc1 or something

haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Close to be done, just have to polish some secrets and add the exit itself

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1 hr map rush

haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 8:59 PM

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I dont know yet how to add secrets that are not classic style

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Okay so ummm, here it is. MAP02 alpha

📎 Initium.wad

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Note: it is by far unfinished, that's why it's so short, but it has some cool secrets
@lilac star

orchid storm Nov 20, 2019, 9:32 PM

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yhea ok so i made a cel shaded doom concept thingy

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haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 9:34 PM

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bruh

orchid storm Nov 20, 2019, 9:37 PM

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this isnt an edited photo, its running all in engine.

haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 9:38 PM

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anything giving me JGR/JSRF vibes is inherently good

orchid storm Nov 20, 2019, 10:00 PM

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update: i tried out makin some sort of platform, i think it looks good.

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vague bear Nov 20, 2019, 10:08 PM

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what is that black outline

orchid storm Nov 20, 2019, 10:36 PM

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black

haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 10:48 PM

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I think it's done, anyone want to test my wad? (MAP01 and MAP02)

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Reuploaded because of a missing decorate, for some reason

📎 Initium.wad

haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 11:20 PM

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i'll creep it

haughty flower Nov 20, 2019, 11:42 PM

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i see you fixed everything from map 1, i don't think you need to open the map01 window so much for the imp's shots - you can keep it the way you had it, if you prefer that, and just alter the wall so it won't block his shots.

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i guess i missed a section?

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probably most if not all of the pinkies and spectres were placed so as to be pretty harmless. those custom imps got me the most

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noticed this half-face when i stopped to look back at the details in your wall (unless that was a door i could open myself?)

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and this took forever to go back up. i went up a couple times looking for secrets, adds up

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other than that didn't see much to tweak, though i don't stare at textures. it's a nice progression graphically and with layout, customs are a cool touch, the layout going through the first time is kinda disorienting at points which helps the feel

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i just realized i was on HMP, i'm gonna take another peek through

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yeah, the wall of faces is supposed to be a door

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Hmm weird

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Did it open up at the end? @haughty flower
Also, it doesn't have a difficult support yet

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And spoiler: That lift hides a secret

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i did find that 🙂

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yes, it opened on its trigger like you meant it to

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that's more like it. plenty playable on UV

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definitely more fun on uv, i did die one time. fucking megaimps

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seen a lot of boxes in rooms, this, you're pioneering

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not sure if that's light from above or not

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i think that's all i saw. do pinkies have better pathfinding in UV, or is it just luck of the draw?

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i think it was just luck

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lmao the first time i played it im shooting the two riflers and shotgun man at the start going bruhhhh this is easy, not realizing i'm on medium

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also, that's supposed to be a holw

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wait, wasn't there a chaingunner?

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that map is just decoration, right?

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map 1, i mean

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it's the first level, and this is the second one

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and, were you playing on doom 1? because it's supposed to be played on doom 2

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should be doom II

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yup 1.9. not sure why the shotgun is at 50

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probably going to nerf the ammo

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i was going to comment

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had no issues with shells

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yeah, nerf the ammo, add some doors to the maze and it's done

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however i did run out of ammo trying to plink the two guys in the courtyard in map01 like an asshole, only to run into a revenant

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also, why is there no sky?

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lemme noclip through

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wait, i think you got an old wad

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try with this one

📎 Initium.wad

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same appearance

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gzd 4.2.3

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hmm, maybe it's because i am currently using zdoom and not gzdoom

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would it run in vanilla?

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i don't know

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lol let's see

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i never knew how to actually run wads on vanilla, but in theory it should

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oh, that may be an issue

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Vanilla means straight up doom.exe, right?

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unless zdl will do it. i can't tell if it's forcing a source port or not

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it's using zdoom format tho

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let's stick to the not-classics, then

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no skies for me in the first map, come to think of it

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If it is not using a "doom (2): doom format" it cant run on vanilla

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maybe because i just copied all doom 1 missing textures to my wad and removed SKY 1

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oop

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skies are definitely functioning for me tho

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so it uses the normal doom 2 sky

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Zdoom format will run on derivate zdoom ports, any other port that is not zdoom based it wont run the map

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i made my first map in hexen mode for some reason

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it seems that the only issue is the black sky

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oh yeah, that's all

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hexen format or zdoom in hexen format?

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zdoom in

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Not sure what about doom in hexen format

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wont run in vanilla thats for sure

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i definitely don't need it to

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What's the differeance between hexen in hexen format and doom in hexen format?

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Hexen in hexen format is vanilla hexen

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Another totally different game

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please stop saying hexen

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Doom in hexen format i havent taken a look at it to know whats up, it sounds like doom game with hexen functions

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No

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when you repeat a word too much and it begins to lose meaning

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anyhoo

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From what i understood in the wiki, doom in hexen format is still for doom, and was ideal to turn a non zdoom mod to a zdoom mod but it seems deprecated now

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replaced monsters at the end

📎 Initium.wad

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Ah but if i say doom in doom format is for doom, the doom name wont lose meaning?

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also pinkies are a lot more menacing on this version

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i also replaced some pinkies with more proper monsters

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and there's also a "support" for easy difficulty

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the next wad probably going to have ultra violence for Storage Halls (MAP 02)

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Hey, the next level being a half-cyberdemon battle (kinda like in Thy Flesh Consumed) with lots of cyberbarons is a good idea?

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 1:47 AM

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It's your vision

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I wouldn't put cyberbarons in such tight space alone, it only did 7 damage to me

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But it was enough to get the gist of what it does

vocal crypt Nov 21, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Don't cyberbarons fire rocket rockets.

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Rocket rockets? @vocal crypt

vocal crypt Nov 21, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Rocket rockets as in the ones the Rocket Launcher shoots, and what the Cyberdemon uses.

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I say Rocket rockets because the revenant shoots homing rockets.

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 1:55 AM

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@haughty flower it was like a... Spoiler (?

Map 03 will be way more big

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I call Revenant's Missiles Fireballs, but yeah i think they use nerfed player rockets

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A teaser? A spoiler would ruin something for others

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I wanna make a map that's a big skeleton filled with skeletons

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Sometimes vision is bad

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@haughty flower true, it's like

"What is a cyberbaron doing here?"
ENTERING: CYBERTHING
"Oh god..."

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I can't think of a name, Cyberyard? Cybergarden?

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The cover made it easy to fight, but he almost got me while I processed the difference. Love OH FUCK! Moments in my Doom

vocal crypt Nov 21, 2019, 1:57 AM

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Honestly Cyberbarons should be mini-bosses.
You know, like the Barons in E1.

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Not common troopers.

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 1:58 AM

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I remember when e1 barons were spooky

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Boy did that change fast

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You know, on my previous wad i made a double oh fuck moment
Room full of barons
You get close and a door opens, there's a cyberdemon
THE CYBERDEMON DOESN'T DIE

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Protip: shoot the cyberdemon until it dies

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I like the name Cybergarden but... You know

MAP 31

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Note to self include that as popup text in a level

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Cyberlawn? I mean it's pretty much a cute little level that lovely introduces you to the Cyberdemon

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More like Tricks and Traps MAP05

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choose-your-own-adventure map where you have to keep choosing between alternate un-retreatable rooms to advance

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Except you actually face him

vocal crypt Nov 21, 2019, 2:01 AM

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I was expecting Cyberbarons to shoot like plasma and what not.

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Not rockets and a chaingun.

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 2:02 AM

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They shoot those green projectiles AND rockets, at least the ones at my wad

vocal crypt Nov 21, 2019, 2:02 AM

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I'm thinking of the one in Eviternity

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My bad.

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 2:03 AM

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According to my wad """lore"'"
Remember the dead barons at E2M8?
Well, these ones were actually modified for being combat slaves instead of getting turned into wall textures

vocal crypt Nov 21, 2019, 2:03 AM

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...what?

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 2:04 AM

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there's a crucified wall texture

vocal crypt Nov 21, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I got that part.

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 2:04 AM

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the walls are combat slaves, i'm willing to go with it

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Cyberdemon got 2 braincells working and thought "Hey why not just making cyberbarons"

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clever ghoul

vocal crypt Nov 21, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Are there two different Realm667 Cyberbaron types?

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Nope afaik

vocal crypt Nov 21, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Oh, the copy I got finally used the regular Baron's projectile.

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Missile: CBOS E 0 A_jump(80,5) CBOS E 10 A_FaceTarget CBOS E 10 A_FaceTarget CBOS F 10 Bright A_customMissile("ArachnotronPlasma",27,16,0) CBOS E 10 A_FaceTarget goto See CBOS PQ 8 A_FaceTarget CBOS R 8 A_BruisAttack Goto See
Ignoring the ArachnotronPlasma code for the moment, jesus this looks...Bloated?
I'm not a programmer so I'm probably calling something normal bloated.

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Can't tell tbh, but it seems pretty normal to my little brain

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I was thinking on making something similar to that E4 level

You get a Cyberdemon from the very start shooting at you at the other side of the map and you have to kill him at the end of the level

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 2:47 AM

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there's a description of the missile. that's bloat. cut it. cut it down!~

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i've intentionally chosen something that'll force me to code something. the hell teleporter is under a bigass chernobyl shield and there's four linked switches

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i mean they probably put that there for a reason but vOv

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we're gonna open 'er

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Bro

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Thats as basic as it gets for attack codes

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me or them

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 5:35 PM

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What features GZDoom Builder has that Doom Builder doesn't?

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goes more than 5 minutes without crashing for me

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The UI window with many options like making doors, randomizing sectors, a sound proof mode, dynamic lightning preview, 3D model preview as far as i can remember, just many tools they included to like list em all here

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Hey Chunderbucket, mind being my wad's tester?

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@haughty flower

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i could use a bass break, whatcha got?

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post it up and i'll check it out after the next song @haughty flower

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i just started Cyberlawn, so it's going to take a while

mystic chasm Nov 21, 2019, 6:54 PM

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I'm posting this here so I can look at it later
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/prefabs/flordmo2

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 6:55 PM

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haha oh, fair enough

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i like to lurk this channel as i'm learning GZDB so chances are i'll see it regardless

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i have a feeling more than 7% damage is coming

mystic chasm Nov 21, 2019, 7:09 PM

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You guys post your maps on the doomworld forums?

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I used to playtest stuff on there, but I've been much busier lately

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 7:12 PM

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i'm waiting to get something more complete, but the ultimate goal is to host some stuff up on that archive

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eternity thru doom

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idk how appropriate it would be to post maps and then just do it again when they're stuck together

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or how the people who actually browse and play maps regard that

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Hey, how do i make blocked bars on zdoom? like the red ones at MAP02

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UAC virtualization, you say

📎 UAC.png

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 8:01 PM

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can't find baron wall on d1gfxd2.wad, what's its name on doom.wad?

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 8:25 PM

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nevermind, just used a decorate instead

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 9:21 PM

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i was kinda wondering the same. i know it's a texture, i haven't run across it mapping

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Chunder, Cyberlawn alpha is almost done btw

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 11:17 PM

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@haughty flower done, 1 difficulty setting and 1 secret

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📎 Initium.wad

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MAP03 btw

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looks like cyberdemon's back on the menu, boys

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are these balanced for pistol start? i played through last time

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yup

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it gives you a supershotgun

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i do that for my maps despite refusing to pistol start

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but yeah, enjoy i guess

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ahhaha oh god

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also NO JUMPING

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ok what kind of savage do you take me for

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kek

haughty flower Nov 21, 2019, 11:49 PM

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ping me when you end your review, k?

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not what i expected! has a nice flow to it with one exception, i'll look back through the screens i took and post them up. mostly missing textures or things

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ping

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still having the sky issues from before

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maybe i'm dumb but i died a good ten times before i noticed the first door you go through. that puzzle tripped me up too - advancing without enough ammo - but figuring it out and barely shooting felt nice

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yeah mainly to show off how strong a cyberbaron is

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anyways, any flaws or parts you didn't liked?

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i just killed everything the first few times :v

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finding the first door was the main thing i didn't like. i started running around like a madman and even passed it

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from there it was clear i didn't need to arena fight them, which it kinda looked like

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this door needs to be set for repeated use

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oh, idk how tough the spiders were meant to be but i'm assuming the turbo doors meant you intended sniping. the next baron was pretty easy with that room as an option too

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it wasn't set for repeated use? sorry

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i noclipped then went back to make sure it wasn't a trap to figure out 😅

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suppose i didn't find the secret that playthrough. anyway from there i think it's mostly textures i'll post

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That red lite one is made on purpose tho

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with some cut off?

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original doom also did this

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you could shift it and fit everything i think/ oic

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i think that was the last one! when a texture here or there is the only thing that's never bad

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lite cutting, guess they didn't cared about texture allignace

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you made that in a day?

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Check lower/upper unpegged on a linedef to skip that kind of texture cutting @haughty flower

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aha my science lab has that with the ceiling lights, just making sure

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it's hard to have angled walls and NOT cut off rectangular lights really

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These maps were all made about in a day each

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that's efficient work

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never pay attention to textures in the original doom, they normally are very misalligned

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SEE? my cave map was legitimate

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Are they?

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Yup, specially in doom 1

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I wouldnt say otherwise, i dont see many unaligned textures

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sorry, missed one

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oof

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@haughty flower play knee deep in the dead again

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i peek at door lights too now that someone pointed out how hilariously lopsided mine are with the door open

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Also Chunder, little question. Do Plutonia Textures fit in the maps?

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not sure i understand the question. i'm a whopping week into maps

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Do they look out of place?

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There arent as many misaligned textures but windows all look alright for me

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oh,ok. i didn't notice anything out of place no. thought maybe you meant files

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is that where the green grill is from? actually i did notice that

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The misaligned textures or unmatching ones were secrets from what i can tell

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i wanna use that

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Bricks and most mossy blocks are from plutonia

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yeah, secrets were often noticeable

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i'm gonna have to give that a try later, see if i can kill errything

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Also, did you noticed the switch at the nukage part in front of the second door?

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you can get to the only secret from there

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i got the cyberdemon to kill one of them

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oh yeahh, i did. i guess i avoided it after noting no exits

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Probably going to change the music and i use countdown for the next level

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Wanted to do a level called "Clockwork", pretty literal name

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rising/lowering sectors moving in sequence around the arena as you do battle in a giant dome

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one short one long :v

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is there any way to stablish a time limit?

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vOv

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okay, fixed Cyberlawn 0.5 and changed the sky for a PTSD one

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📎 Initium.wad

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sky works!

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i think i found the issue

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Since i deleted SKY_1 texture from Doom 1, the game doesn't open SKY_1 from Doom 2

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https://tenor.com/view/stephen-asmith-angry-seething-mad-frustrated-gif-14480738

Tenor

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only in map 3 it turns out

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but now there's a grey triangle, so that's progress

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fixed sky on every level now

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well, time to design the 4th level, Spectre Maze! Introducing the new monster: Nightmare Spectre

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and also to remember every plutonia player that MAP11 exists, no archviles this time tho

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this may be where i have to tap out

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i'm still mid-doom II on my OG marathon. tried plutonia. it went... bad

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I hope you don't know about MAP 11 Hunted

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Trully this time it's an horror game

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nope

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Archvile Maze, should i say more?

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i got a good helping of archviles in here, i want to say from cool blue yosh who i suspect is cool black imp

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given that like 3 people post here most days

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Lmao yeh

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i tried to @ you

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Eventually ill go back to yosh

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Meanwhile, plutonia was for babies, plutonia 2 is real ptsd

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come to think of it, the archviles were the only real problem. just gotta get used to them i guess

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with plutonia, i mean

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Im struggling more with chaingunners than archviles or both combined in tricky spots

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The only moment where i called it bullshit was map31 with the hidden archvile behind a wall

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sorry. specifically the chaingunner/revenant combo

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it's weird having a game where you're dodging huge demons like neo only to get hitscanned

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but yeah, it will be a maze with spectres and nightmare spectres

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and like light level 100 for the trully anger

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gonna be posting a lot of stephen a smith gifs soon

haughty flower Nov 22, 2019, 1:14 AM

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I could also do a level with only Imp based enemies that plays E1M2 theme hehe

vague bear Nov 22, 2019, 1:53 AM

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heh

mystic chasm Nov 22, 2019, 4:03 AM

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portals are too jank to work the way i want them to

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i was able to make a laterally moving floating 3d platform

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but, it just doesn't quite work

orchid crane Nov 22, 2019, 11:34 AM

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When setting sprites to bob, how do I make sure they're not low enough that they end up bumping into the floor?

mystic chasm Nov 22, 2019, 8:02 PM

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You talking about FLOATBOB?

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And are you actually have that problem? I thought they only floated up from their original position.
Otherwise I'd just increase your sprite offset, there are also
Floatbobphase and floatbobstrength
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Actor_properties

Actor properties

vocal crypt Nov 22, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@haughty flower
I feel like the Dark Imps are more...
Beefier in health than they should be.
Beefier than vanilla imps, sure.

haughty flower Nov 22, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Hell, i can make an Imp zoo

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Ironically, i won't use many normal Imps

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They are too weak for being the main enemy in level 5, since level 3 had a cyberdemon and many cyberbarons

orchid crane Nov 22, 2019, 11:55 PM

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@mystic chasm Ja I am. I now understand what you meant. As currently is, my sprites do indeed look like they jump:

📎 20191122_175118.mp4

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However, instead of jumping, I'm trying to do a constant up and down motion, like what Project Brutality does with those little red health pickups you get after killing a monster

mystic chasm Nov 22, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Do they have NOGRAVITY applied too?

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I thought maybe you meant they were clipping into the floor

orchid crane Nov 23, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Ja Im not the best at articulation, so I try to provide visuals when I can

Here's the code so far:

📎 20191122_180130.jpg

mystic chasm Nov 23, 2019, 12:04 AM

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If you offset their zheight in the map do they still do that?

orchid crane Nov 23, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Can a zheight offset be applied in the code, or does it have to be via a map editor?

mystic chasm Nov 23, 2019, 12:07 AM

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With zscript anything is possible

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I'd just test it with the map editorthough for now

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And all your floating candles in the same phase is gonna look funky, maybe change your floatbobphase to -1

orchid crane Nov 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Yeah my mod is designed for Zandronum, and I dont think it has Zscript support yet, right?

mystic chasm Nov 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Oh, nope

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There some some decorate/ACS scripting tie ins though you could use to have a script automatically increase the height by so much but it's probably just better to place them in the map a certain way

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Did raising them off the ground make them look right?

orchid crane Nov 23, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Ive admittedly forgotten how to, and Ive been googling it endlessly with no success

Im not sure where the option for it is in Doom Builder 🤔

📎 20191122_181517.jpg

mystic chasm Nov 23, 2019, 12:18 AM

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What map format?

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Also in 3d moe I think you can toggle things on with t and use the scroll wheel

orchid crane Nov 23, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Skulltag

mystic chasm Nov 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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I haven't used doom builder in a long time I dunno where the options for it in gui are

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And I gtg, I'll check back in when I get back

orchid crane Nov 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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Ja fair enough. I know I can use some of the udmf linedef special actions in skulltag by writing down the id number and typing it manually and itll still work in other map formats, for (unrelated) example

haughty flower Nov 23, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Is it a good idea to make a super plutonia reference on my wad? i was thinking on making something like Go 2 It but with E1M1

vague bear Nov 23, 2019, 12:48 AM

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how does a monster have a map specific tag

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like in doom 2 map 7

haughty flower Nov 23, 2019, 1:11 AM

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I think its hardcoded into doom

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I believe you can achieve this effect anyhow with a scripted map

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Zdoom allows tagging monsters if im not wrong

haughty flower Nov 23, 2019, 3:41 AM

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@vague bear you'll have to use hexen format

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Tag 666 activates when every mancubus dies, and i think it only works on MAP07

vague bear Nov 23, 2019, 3:42 AM

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that explains the weird ass tags on the maps

mystic chasm Nov 23, 2019, 5:08 AM

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📎 plat.webm

haughty flower Nov 23, 2019, 5:09 AM

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niiiiice

haughty flower Nov 23, 2019, 7:57 AM

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oh neat

haughty flower Nov 23, 2019, 3:06 PM

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You guys got any design tips on Mazes?

digital wolf Nov 23, 2019, 3:21 PM

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I require some good mappers for my game.

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At least 2.

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Development is pretty slow and I need to speed it up.

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Hell, it's just me and 2 friends.

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Plus some sprite designers.

mystic chasm Nov 23, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Design tips for mazes: don't make them

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doomguy_wicked

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Whatcha making @digital wolf

digital wolf Nov 23, 2019, 5:07 PM

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A DOOM engine game.

mystic chasm Nov 23, 2019, 5:08 PM

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I mean, I figured, but what though, ya know?

digital wolf Nov 23, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Well,

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I'ma send the info in DMs.

mystic chasm Nov 23, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Ok

vocal crypt Nov 23, 2019, 11:49 PM

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@haughty flower oh.
You know those cyberbarons?
I think the Spider Mastermind would be more likely to be behind those.

haughty flower Nov 23, 2019, 11:50 PM

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what you mean? @vocal crypt

vocal crypt Nov 23, 2019, 11:51 PM

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I don't think the Cyberdemon would be that smart to do something.
She on the other hand would.

haughty flower Nov 23, 2019, 11:54 PM

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still, in gameplay i prefer rockets over hitscan

vocal crypt Nov 23, 2019, 11:55 PM

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I meant handwave explanation.
Not changing the way they fire.

haughty flower Nov 23, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Cyberdemon that acts like a Spider?

vocal crypt Nov 23, 2019, 11:58 PM

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facepalm.
The Spider Mastermind making the cyberbarons, is why they exist.
They're the same old cyberbarons,
Just changing why they exist in "lore".

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 12:00 AM

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oh i get it

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 12:33 AM

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@vocal crypt Mastermind makes Cyberbarons for Cyberdemon because she loves him

vocal crypt Nov 24, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Let's not involve love.

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 12:45 AM

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they are a couple of besties

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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church is taking me forever

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191123_182017.png

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you gave me an idea

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191123_204737.png

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what's that?

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I'll make a Church level on my wad

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hahaha

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probably at the hellish or devil-hive levels

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i'm rebuilding my little village romp. tear through a church and some catacombs, through a cave, up into the town. through a police station with a working shooting gallery and so on

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i also wanted to make a Catacombs level

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very linear but i'm trying to use decorations to make it feel bigger. stuff in the background

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Probably a hellish catacomb in an UAC base?

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turns out bones just have super good frequencies for aerospace work

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i was thinking on a base level that got sucked by hell

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oh trust me, i gotcha

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so it's half hellish and it's like a zone for human corpses?

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one of my levels ends with a teleport to hell. the map after that starts with a chunk of your teleporter building ripped to hell and twisted accordingly

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ie relatively clean and professional, then vines and flesh horror and so on

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any tips on how to make a level hellish and sci-fi at the same time while keeping that vanilla original doom style?

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i think you have more finished maps than me by this point haha

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ive got a huge pile of WIP

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not like levels in E2 of Doom 1 because it's just UAC zone then Hell zone. Uac then Hell and so on

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I was thinking on a more mixed level

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i want to start messing with slopes to make "tentacles" and things

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i'll stay 2D for now

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have that twisted flesh texture taking over the building, essentially. then bits of symbolism here and there

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pentagrams and demons worked in

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if you're gonna do a raised cathedral ceiling do it before you populate the room, i can tell you that much for the church. my second try was so much easier because of that

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191123_150913.png

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maybe it will be full of skeletons

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b o n e z o n e

mystic chasm Nov 24, 2019, 2:05 AM

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That church looks pretty church

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coolcaco

ebon mesa Nov 24, 2019, 2:05 AM

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https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/110377-i-have-a-challenge-for-everyone/

Doomworld

I have a challenge for everyone

This is a doom wad I put together, it makes doom much harder. Rules are simple, you must use the unfair character class. The difficulty doesnt matter. (dont even try nightmare, I mean it) Also you must disable auto save and auto load. You must upload a video to here of you be...

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 2:06 AM

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there's even a confession booth secret

ebon mesa Nov 24, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Ping me if you succeed in beating the challenge with a video of you doing it

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 2:11 AM

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HRDDOM?

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HRDDOM?

ebon mesa Nov 24, 2019, 2:11 AM

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its meant to stand for harddoom

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its a harder version of doom

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 2:13 AM

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hdoom

ebon mesa Nov 24, 2019, 2:15 AM

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okay listen, its a hard version of doom, thats what it is, the file name doesnt matter

mystic chasm Nov 24, 2019, 3:13 AM

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i thought the filename limit was 8 characters

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which would perfectly fit "harddoom"

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HR DOOM
a game in which you must take on the daily struggle of HR manager in the UAC

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 3:28 AM

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lazy to do a video but nothing really great about this challenge

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191123_202806.png

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i just rushed thru it with strafing

still dagger Nov 24, 2019, 3:29 AM

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Is that a mod

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 3:30 AM

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~~go play hideous destructor in BEAUTIFUL and see if you can beat map01 instead~~

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scroll up, its the thing that superboo07 posted

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it's a mod to try beating map01 with your class at 1 health and lowered speed with modded damage on monsters as well

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being UAC HR is the real nightmare mode

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 4:21 AM

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hanging out on a saturday night

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191123_225648.png

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i realized it wants me to do the other levels but even more lazy to do that

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cool stuff

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hanging out with the boys that are hanging and impaled

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probably gonna catch draugr

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191123_221858.png

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could make it slightly darker or i dunno :O

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most of it is rather dark

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not pictured: archie, lava

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there's a bit more lighting and candles in those two sections, as a result

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nothing like discovering the archies aren't tagged 'ambush' during testing

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they will get tyou anyways

orchid crane Nov 24, 2019, 4:35 AM

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To follow up with my floatbob issues, offsetting the sprite image itself as was suggested fixed it; moving the frames up about 16 pixels did the trick. Ty :)

mystic chasm Nov 24, 2019, 4:36 AM

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my work here is done

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 4:38 AM

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on my wad archviles only spawn at easy difficulty

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you meanie

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i was planning on replacing all the enemies with archviles, revenants and chaingunners on easy difficulty

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and just rename it to Plutonia Experience

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The pile it on ya experiment

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Any ideas for non-uac base earth levels?

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I wanted to divide my wad levels in 6

mossy base levels
late earth levels
hellish levels
devil-hive levels
MAP31 and MAP32
bonus and rejected levels

lilac star Nov 24, 2019, 7:02 PM

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City style

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brick based buildings

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?

undone relic Nov 24, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I feel like there have been enough of those

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It can still work. What if you made a more rural based level

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A rural based level during the aftermath of the invasion

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 7:13 PM

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i'm doing a rural level rn

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it's fun. anyway make the factory all the barrels come from imo

lilac star Nov 24, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Yeah depends entirely on which resources you're using, stock iwad or not

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 7:33 PM

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mmhmm. vanilla's super tricky to work around. we got nuke falls, we got bloodfalls, wtf is a waterfall

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i know he's got custom monsters tho so that won't be a concern

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 9:11 PM

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any tips on how to make good city levels?

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Someone make a 1:1 central Park to fight doots in

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replay doom 2 and make notes of everything you hated, for starters. no giant floor arrows

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Chunder, you're going to hate my new level

vocal crypt Nov 24, 2019, 9:58 PM

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I feel like that's just level design 101 for a FPS game, Chunder.

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If you need arrows to point to where to go, you might as well head back to the drawing board.

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 10:02 PM

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true that

lilac star Nov 24, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Yeah, basically don't make it like Downtown

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 10:41 PM

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@haughty flower MAP04

📎 Initium.wad

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I hate this map so much, it's so scary

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 11:09 PM

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191124_180903.png

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a benefit of being dark as shit is i didnt notice any texture fuckery

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i noticed the secret on the map, almost dooted myself with that rl

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and the little side rooms on the second-to-last fight keep you from being able to cheese it, it's easier to just go into the courtyard

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Woah how does the name of the map appear on intermission screen?

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i haven't bothered learning that yet, i thought you were going into the data file

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does your doom builder just do that?

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oh. was difficulty on?

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no difficulty support yet

haughty flower Nov 24, 2019, 11:33 PM

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good cos i have no idea what it was set to

lilac star Nov 25, 2019, 12:11 AM

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For names on intermission screens it's sprites with the CWIL** prefix

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https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4670

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Can use doom writer to make the sprites

haughty flower Nov 25, 2019, 12:14 AM

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like...

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it shows in the intermission screen as seen in that screenshot, but i didn't fixed it

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it fixed itself (?

lilac star Nov 25, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Could be via mapinfo maybe?

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Not sure when it comes to z ports tbh, just vanilla

willow lodge Nov 25, 2019, 12:16 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gOEpl2u0aw

YouTube

BeardedDoomGuy

Wolfenstein 3D JaguarPC rats are done

Big thank you to Ringman and Nash for the sprites. now with that done, I can start working on getting the maps completed.

▶ Play video

lilac star Nov 25, 2019, 12:19 AM

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mean

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still gonna have dogs?

willow lodge Nov 25, 2019, 12:19 AM

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yea

lilac star Nov 25, 2019, 12:20 AM

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swtt

haughty flower Nov 25, 2019, 2:54 AM

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this is fine, i'm sure

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191124_205415.png

haughty flower Nov 25, 2019, 4:43 AM

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📎 zantetsuken.mp4

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mod im working on

📎 madcombo.mp4

lilac star Nov 25, 2019, 6:00 AM

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that's sick as fuck @haughty flower

foggy folio Nov 25, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Impressive for that you get a clap

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https://media.tenor.com/images/039b76f457e474fccd92a26f5562393d/tenor.gif

digital wolf Nov 25, 2019, 2:15 PM

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@haughty flower that is the sickest thing I've seen in a while.

torn remnant Nov 25, 2019, 3:58 PM

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wow, thats hot

haughty flower Nov 25, 2019, 7:11 PM

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@lilac star , @digital wolf thanks 🙂

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 12:17 AM

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well well well, here's my new MAP05, UAC catacombs

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in its very alpha, personally my favorite map of my wad @haughty flower

📎 Initium.wad

vocal shell Nov 26, 2019, 12:19 AM

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@haughty flower holy shit that is amazing

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 12:22 AM

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bout to watch the raptors but i'll take a peek later

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 12:48 AM

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@vocal shell thanks

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 2:25 AM

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should this do something? i think i got stuck after the red card

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191125_211357.png

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@haughty flower

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i kinda noclipped around and i'm not sure what the step after that is

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It's useless

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👌

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is this a door? i couldn't open it

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191125_212848.png

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Whack, it is @haughty flower

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probably backwards linedef. always gets me

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So, how about the rest?

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 4:06 AM

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i couldn't work out the intended route, probably because of the door

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Going to fix all the doors

torn remnant Nov 26, 2019, 1:37 PM

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this switch at map02 seems to be not working, and i couldnt get the exit wall to open

📎 Screenshot_2019-11-26-18-37-28-662_net.nullsum.freedoom.png

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is it me being dumb or ???

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Whack

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It worked for me, maybe because i'm using ZDoom

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What port are you using? @torn remnant

torn remnant Nov 26, 2019, 3:35 PM

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its called freedoom, basically zdoom for android

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will try on computer later

torn remnant Nov 26, 2019, 4:20 PM

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still doesnt work

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messed around with it in doombuilder, no results

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sadly

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@haughty flower

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Well, just idclip i guess @torn remnant

torn remnant Nov 26, 2019, 4:23 PM

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yeah, already did

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the levels are great imo, you have potential

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Thx, any, annoying parts or just things that could be improved you found? @torn remnant

torn remnant Nov 26, 2019, 4:26 PM

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not really

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Not even the Mossy Maze?

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I really had my doubts on that level

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isn't that switch the one for the hell knight room back near the start?

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mossy maze was fine, largely due to pinkies having terrible pathfinding

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Nope, the hell knight switch doesn't need a blue key

torn remnant Nov 26, 2019, 4:57 PM

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btw the archviles on easy thing is kinda hilarious actually

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 5:15 PM

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is that in the wad already? fantastic

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 5:34 PM

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okay now the easy difficulty is more archvilezed

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and Catacombs are ready+

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and also, now there's all difficulties for each level

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📎 Initium.wad

lilac star Nov 26, 2019, 6:16 PM

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FreeDoom isn't a port btw, it's a free iwad

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it runs with chocolate, crispy, prboom+, EE, GZDoom etc etc etc

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 6:41 PM

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i tried to make a doom video and it gave me a quietmic to loud gaming over a freezeframe of the gzdoom loader

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how does the door in map 5 open? i still couldn't work it out

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which one? @haughty flower

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the poison door

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it's fixed now

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oh, i guess it loaded up the wrong wad

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it's beatable now!

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 7:32 PM

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now i'm working on adding a LOT more zombies

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i made a map with about 1500 monsters last night for shits and giggles. best slideshow i ever watched

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go 2 it 2?

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literally just a 30,000 x 30,000 square filled with waves of barons and barons and imps

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the fact it all fit in 5k x 5k, really, probably didnt help the speed

lilac star Nov 26, 2019, 8:05 PM

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its always fun fucking around with with doom builder like that

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just making misc little things

royal wave Nov 26, 2019, 8:32 PM

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191126_133108.png

lilac star Nov 26, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Getting Mario vibes from that screen

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 8:37 PM

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I'm definitely picking up some things about infighting and how to use it to make fun scenes just tearing through a scaled down 300 monster version

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oh yeah thats some mario

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finally figured out how to get games recording, even if it looks a little potato

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half the time the mancubus seems more interested in fighting other monsters

royal wave Nov 26, 2019, 8:51 PM

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📎 ATTACK.ogg

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📎 DEATH.ogg

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📎 PAIN.ogg

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📎 PICKUP.ogg

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📎 WANDER.ogg

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📎 SEE.ogg

haughty flower Nov 26, 2019, 9:33 PM

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?

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 12:15 AM

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i'm surely on some bullshit now

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191126_190847.png

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oh god

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do you ever just look up at night and admire the imp fireblasts

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191126_191339.png

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 12:55 AM

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@haughty flower ever mess around with the Freeze console command?

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Fun as heck with lots of projectiles or infighting going on

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can set up some sweet battles in gzdb by setting half the enemies to be friendly then freezing it mid action

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:01 AM

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no, i haven't! my screenshots thank you

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:02 AM

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👍

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if you want to get rid of weapon sprites r_drawplayersprites 0 (or something like that) too

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:03 AM

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usually the hardest part of showing off a map

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:03 AM

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for max screenshot skillz

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:04 AM

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oo. i got a big one coming this'll be perfect for. not the joke battlemap

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there's 337 monsters. room for 1000 more?

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:13 AM

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haha definitely

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hope you're good at macro architecture if you're making a slaughtermap

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:20 AM

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ok, 3428 was too many

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:22 AM

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try 3427

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEnOEzq8PuE

YouTube

Azuruish

Doom 2: Okuplok Slaughter Map, UV-MAX [TAS] in 2:47:52

The most hardest, insane and crazy wad which i even played. Big problems with health, over 23000 monsters and Chillax's difficulty. If Holy Hell too easy for...

▶ Play video

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if you wanna see endgame level monster counts

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:27 AM

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27,000 in that one, right?

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:27 AM

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23k i think?

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23-26

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cant remember tbhg

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:27 AM

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i'm not going so much for insanely hard as fun

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:27 AM

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wish you could see kill count in that vid

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:27 AM

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i'm completely restarting under another concept

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:27 AM

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ah yeah legit

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I like doing that in regular wads too, fat groups of imps and hitscanners

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easy but satisfying

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mixes things up a bit

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Woah, this map is pretty big and unfinished, anyone want to test the early unfinished version of MAP06 Center of the base?

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Finish it first then get people to test ;s

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or at least very close to being final

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:28 AM

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it just needs a couple of sectors lol

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:29 AM

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ah kk, that makes more sense

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:29 AM

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but yeah, the only thing left is the connector to the exit room, there's like this ending room that has no entry

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:29 AM

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if they're very minor

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:29 AM

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Only windows

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:29 AM

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oh lol def add a way to exit first ;p

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:30 AM

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I love these 2 lasts maps, UAC Catacombs and Center Of The Base since they are so big compared to the rest

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 1:56 AM

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📎 Initium.wad

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MAP06 Base Center, tested and beatable

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@haughty flower @lilac star (?

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 1:58 AM

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ill give it a blatt when i get home from work

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Already MAP07? Oh yeah it's Dead Simple clone time

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 3:26 AM

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all right, let's take a look-see

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maybe see if this video capture works

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this will be one of those wads where the mappers progression is super apparent moving on

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 3:58 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W_-XFvgvkE&feature=youtu.be dammit. it's from 2012 but there must be a way to get More Video from this thing

YouTube

chunderbucket

initium map 06

PUSH. TO. TALK. are ya clackin' at meeeee?

▶ Play video

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if you wanna see a first-time reaction there's a video for you @haughty flower , if not i got lost once or twice but the polish level on these is going up silly fast while keeping in the MooD. i dig it

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 8:21 AM

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I recorded an FDA with comments earlier too @haughty flower

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EitYcqoTIU

YouTube

vertigo

Initium map06

▶ Play video

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 9:03 AM

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"If you ask me where this map takes place i have no idea"
Me neither

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About the Spider Mastermind fight
You'll have 2 options
Go around ver
Kill her by the window

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Also, the name is "Initium" because it's my first public megawad and initium means beggining, start in latin

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 4:10 PM

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i figured it was your episode 1

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Btw, i also appreciate the footage, so i can see how the player reacts to the enviroment

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@lilac star about the custom monsters, i use them for the inmersion. I'll rather find scientists over pinkies on a lab

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 5:20 PM

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that's why i do it now, a friend did a video playthrough of my big WIP and the whole time i'm going 'n-no hit the secret'

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you went in the room twice there's a little bit with torn wallpaper FUCKIN PRESS IT YOU GET GOOD SHIT

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Any idea on how to use Tag 666?

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It's MAP07, not using Tag 666 is a sin

digital wolf Nov 27, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Welp

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my game's doing good but slow

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I need 1 more mapper, 2 sprite designers and 2 modelers.

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Modelers are for demons and prop sprites.

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 6:47 PM

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y'all got dental?

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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@haughty flower I haven't used it myself but my understanding is when all mancs killed any sector tagged with 666 will Floor Lower to Nearest

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might not be exact line action but close

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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thanks

mystic chasm Nov 27, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Dead simple clones are a sin

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 7:45 PM

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how can you be against the tradition of cloning dead simple?

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like every wad that has a MAP07 has a dead simple clone lmao

mystic chasm Nov 27, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Yes exactly

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like every wad that has a MAP07 has a dead simple clone lmao

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Seems more like old megawads that have clones of such

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 8:01 PM

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+1 for dead simple clones being played out

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YouTube

CapnClever

Evolution of the WAD E2 - Dead Simple Clones

Evolution of the WAD is a show describing the history, legacy, and content of Doom mapping styles and themes. This episode covers numerous iterations of Doom...

▶ Play video

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 8:09 PM

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i'm surprised this isn't a meme

mystic chasm Nov 27, 2019, 8:29 PM

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2 and a half hours?

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 8:53 PM

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no, the "dead simple" clone topic

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rural maps give a great excuse to work in little shops full of all yer doom-slayin' needs

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191127_160109.png

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Nice

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Since Dead Simple Clones are crap and shit and i really want to use Tag 666, what about a secret room that opens once you killed all Mancubi?

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ammo capacity is tied to the backpack? holy moly i'm dumb

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 9:49 PM

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thats a cool idea scarlet

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can also put the mancs in secrets so you gotta seek em out and kill them for the uber secret

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lol yeah @haughty flower

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super useful like that

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 9:53 PM

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and me here giving away backpacks like an NBA player on thanksgiving

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I want to explore on the idea of filling it with traps

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so you just have to watch out and not get choked by imps

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 10:59 PM

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Okay so Base Escape is done. Not my favorite map but still very good imo, would love to see commented gameplay

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📎 Initium.wad

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@haughty flower and @lilac star i guess

lilac star Nov 27, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Was my previous video of any use?

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You need version numbers on your files btw

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 11:21 PM

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yeah you're right

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And yes, i used the mistakes of the previous map and solved them in this one @lilac star

haughty flower Nov 27, 2019, 11:45 PM

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by the way i didn't changed the song because Shawn's Got The Shotgun kicks ass

haughty flower Nov 28, 2019, 12:56 AM

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anyways. ping me whenever you guys have your reviews ready

lilac star Nov 28, 2019, 1:00 AM

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ill see if i have time to do one

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ive got lots of mapping to do

haughty flower Nov 28, 2019, 1:43 AM

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don't worry, i have no hurry

haughty flower Nov 28, 2019, 3:47 AM

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it finally comes full circle. almost done. almost.

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191127_224113.png

haughty flower Nov 28, 2019, 4:13 AM

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maybe by the time you've finished your wad I'll have finally figured out OBS studio

haughty flower Nov 28, 2019, 4:46 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8_WSeh1Dio&feature=youtu.be @haughty flower well, here's one of em

YouTube

3 Cheque Month

Initium map07 - WIP sneak peek!

Map07 from Scarlet458's initium. First time through! HMP, GZDoom.

▶ Play video

lilac star Nov 28, 2019, 6:31 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN8Fs28eo04

YouTube

vertigo

Initium map07

▶ Play video

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@haughty flower

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that'll be my last FDA + review for a while

haughty flower Nov 28, 2019, 4:04 PM

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@lilac star and @haughty flower
Just questions to know what players want

What was the best looking level of Initium?
What was the ugliest one?
What was the most fun level?
What was the most boring level?

haughty flower Nov 28, 2019, 9:54 PM

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really man you want to be making maps for you at the end of the day

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some people love tight base crawls. some just want to kill a billion things. build with fun in mind, whatever fun is for you

haughty flower Nov 28, 2019, 10:14 PM

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@haughty flower Yeah but i also want to improve in mapping, i also want people to enjoy my maps

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What i mean is a bad and boring level. Like a level full of enemies making it imposible

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that's why a few questions are kind of redundant. the 'looks' scale upwards with every level, that's just a time thing. level 1 super plain compared to even the screencaps above

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they're fun to play, but like i say in video the satyrs don't really have any reason to not be pinkies, and it's probably more useful to practice placing vanilla monsters in instances like that

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i find it funny i hated the railguns and they dont seem to have hit vertigo at all

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I kinda feel that UAC Catacombs looks uglier than Cyberlawn for example

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the mossy maze was gonna be mossier, in my head

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i mean, it's actually really mossy but also really dark

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if you're feeling the urge to do renovations do it, the one i'm trying to wrap up for christmas started as a few ideas i kept reworking until i felt happy

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lol i figured as much

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The "hell" transition is also really bad since... Comparing UAC Catacombs and Base Exit

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play with that more. i started goring things up and it's funn

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Well... Time to make non-base earth levels

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191124_192746.png

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who doesn't want a fleshy eye-stalk showerhead?

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Starting with Outskirts. Hell, it's going to look straight up from Plutonia.

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Nice shower i guess (?

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and this i just like how it's looking. satisfaction

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191128_172108.png

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throw some skulls everywhere

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just sprinkle skulls on your map like salt bae

digital wolf Nov 28, 2019, 11:16 PM

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@haughty flower get XSplit, it's way easier to setup than OBS.

haughty flower Nov 28, 2019, 11:36 PM

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i'll give it a peek, thanks

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruFccGveDF0&feature=youtu.be this is as good as i was able to get it without going full slideshow, smh

YouTube

3 Cheque Month

video test

think i figured out how to make these look less potato without compromising my crap pc

▶ Play video

haughty flower Nov 29, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Any idea on how to change the intermission screen texture? i got bored of that skeleton melting faces wall

lilac star Nov 29, 2019, 1:23 AM

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@haughty flower change the INTERPIC lump

haughty flower Nov 29, 2019, 1:23 AM

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thanks

lilac star Nov 29, 2019, 1:23 AM

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I wouldn't worry about remaking levels or adjusting old ones

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just keep making new stuff

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I can't comment on which maps I did/didn't like since I've only played the two

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https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104925-doomish-den-of-design-a-map-that-teaches-you-map-design/

Doomworld

Doomish Den of Design - a map that teaches you map design

Hi crossposting this tutorial wad here from ZDF made by my friend Yatte_Mimashou. Hes asking for more feedback on the DDD :), its a tutorial wad meant to teach the mapper some basic concepts by showing those concepts in action. It definitely helped me get over my mapping bloc...

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check that out

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lol sweet shower @haughty flower

haughty flower Nov 29, 2019, 2:09 AM

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xsplit seems to be a piece of shit as far as doom goes

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definitely not easier to set up, at least. OBS didn't mangle my 1280x1024

neon mulch Nov 29, 2019, 2:18 AM

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looking for a way to possibly decide on the fly what the next maps should be in zdoom

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let's say I want to skip some maps in a wad playthrough, or replay the same map on harder and harder difficulty

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this has been on my mind for a while

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I know I can type commands by hand at the end of the level but if I could automate it that would be great

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maybe what I could do (if doable) is to bind a key for each difficulty level

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and maybe even each map number

ionic plank Nov 29, 2019, 6:23 AM

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@digital wolf You said something bout' XSplit, Doesn't XSplit have a Watermark?

digital wolf Nov 29, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Nope.

haughty flower Nov 29, 2019, 1:34 PM

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There's a default broadcast overlay some people don't change, but it was garbage for other reasons

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Works fine if I record the display and let it mangle it inyo something widescreen

haughty flower Nov 29, 2019, 4:32 PM

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ultimate attack

📎 test_thunder_blow.mp4

sleek mountain Nov 29, 2019, 4:33 PM

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lol

foggy folio Nov 30, 2019, 6:29 AM

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For today's forcast...

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 6:54 AM

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epic

torn remnant Nov 30, 2019, 10:55 AM

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wowe

vague bear Nov 30, 2019, 6:55 PM

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why is this a thing in TNT

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errant wraith Nov 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Is this a coop setting?

vague bear Nov 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

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yes it is, my bad

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I have no ideas for this room at all

📎 unknown.png

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now I just made doom forklift

📎 unknown.png

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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put a pallet with some exploding barrels on them forks

vague bear Nov 30, 2019, 7:24 PM

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is this good?

📎 unknown.png

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 7:31 PM

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almost there, you can have the forks poke out somewhat to make it look more real

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and i think it's four barrels to a pallet but this is YOUR WORLD YOUR WAREHOUSE ok

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if you do 3d floors i bet a narrow-aisle would be easy to make look realistic and you could even get in it for some dumbass linedev trigger

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literally step in flip a switch and it lowers down your BFG hahha

vague bear Nov 30, 2019, 7:33 PM

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what do you mean by 3d walls

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 7:33 PM

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i mean 3d floors

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you'd need one for the cage up top since they're a little more open. and for that secret which if you don't use i'm doing

vague bear Nov 30, 2019, 7:36 PM

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ooh so like shelves

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 7:37 PM

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in practice, basically. one shelf as a roof and one as your raised pallet

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now i want to do a real fancy warehouse section by stacking a couple sectors

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 8:06 PM

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anywhere i can find doom styled MIDIs that aren't rock or metal?

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For example, E1M7 is not metal at all, neither Into Sandy's City

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Oh idk anything about coop placements in tnt

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They might be ridicolous like that cyberdemon in that small area where there is a small door

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 9:05 PM

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we already managed to break my 30 minute map so badly it became a ~45-60 second run 👌

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 9:52 PM

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missing a 3d floor for the cage top but i'm getting in on the forklift simulator 2019 action

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_165103.png

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press butan

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_165123.png

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 10:09 PM

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ok, I'm starting to seriously question UAC's selection of shipping materials

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_170916.png

vocal crypt Nov 30, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Why?

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 10:10 PM

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them boxes are massive

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wait. there we go

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_171112.png

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cmere and help me lift this

vocal crypt Nov 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

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No thanks.

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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WSIB smiles upon you, @vocal crypt

vocal crypt Nov 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Who.

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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the workplace safety and insurance board

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Doom is basically the adventures of a traumatized OSHA guy with a gun

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 10:32 PM

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https://fontmeme.com/permalink/191130/e49c0e9113371089b0db70279012fd4d.png

haughty flower Nov 30, 2019, 11:27 PM

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there we go. UAC is gonna make me VP

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_182651.png

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Do fan-made non-official iwads exist?

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Chex Quest doesn't count

mystic chasm Dec 1, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Freedoom?

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You can run anything AS an iwad if you want

lilac star Dec 1, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Rekkr and Haxc

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There's a few unofficial iwads

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 2:53 AM

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Oh yeah, and i can remember also castlevania

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 2:59 AM

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oh my god, that is so much better than my forklift

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:26 AM

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i've spent too much time around them @vague bear

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i wanted to give you a couple examples and maybe went overboard now there's overhead cranes and a trailer full of imps

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oh noooo they're unionizing

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_184250.png

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 3:27 AM

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is my forklift bad

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:28 AM

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nay

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yours looks like a heavy duty outdoor one with smokestack

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i didnt even try making one like that hahha

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 3:29 AM

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I just went off what I remembered

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:29 AM

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same

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suppose these should have joysticks. BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD

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trucc

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_223117.png

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 3:34 AM

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lol

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hey can I get your opinion on my weird map?

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:35 AM

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i'm watching the jets game, but if you post a wad up i can tear through it at intermission

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 3:35 AM

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ill send it to you by dms

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:35 AM

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if you can do attachments like that sure

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 3:35 AM

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if the file is too big ill just send it here then

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:35 AM

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but i am a super beginner at maps, like 3 weeks now maybe.

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 3:36 AM

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here is your first look at the map

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📎 unknown.png

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and here is the file, with a very original name

📎 The_Express_Elevator_to_Hell_and_Back.wad

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:41 AM

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wow, it looks like a big map for the filesize

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it's not a whole bunch of squares which is a good sign. i think we've got 4 minutes to go? in sports-time of course

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 3:42 AM

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I tried to change from my old mapish style

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such as this

📎 unknown.png

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:48 AM

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@vague bear can i try it too?

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 3:48 AM

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yeah go ahead

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:48 AM

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gzdoom format?

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 3:48 AM

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yes

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oh wait my bad its in the boom: doom 2 config. but it should will work in doom 2

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:55 AM

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im gonna assume gz will handle it fine

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 3:56 AM

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yes

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 3:57 AM

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so i lived but the door doesn't open

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_225637.png

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usually linedevs the wrong direction for me

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make sure these support textures match and align it up, makes things look natural and sharp

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_225552.png

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it doesn't hurt to change textures when ceilings/floors change height - a different texture above the revenant would help you process the 3D visually

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:03 AM

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wow that was quick

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but I will get on those changes

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:05 AM

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i could only access one room, how long were you expecting

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it's second period now tho :v

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:05 AM

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oof

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what do you mean one room

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:05 AM

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the door doesnt work

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:06 AM

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I did that on purpose

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:07 AM

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o

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guess i gotta hammer space more

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:08 AM

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The only reason I made the door like that was because I wasn't done with the room

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:09 AM

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ah ok

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i thought you meant i didn't solve something

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:10 AM

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but did you like the rest of the level?

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:11 AM

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the... one room?

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:12 AM

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wait did you just look at that room or the whole level?

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:13 AM

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it starts you in that room

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:14 AM

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oh my god

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:14 AM

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haha, moved your playerstart for testing?

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:14 AM

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yes

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:14 AM

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it happens

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:15 AM

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ill just move it back and put the file down gain

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here we go, the real working version

📎 The_Express_Elevator_to_Hell_and_Back.wad

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:20 AM

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this looks slick. if you want it to be square with the hallway you can always use modify sector to angle it

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_231924.png

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er edit selection mode

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:20 AM

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never though about that, or heard of it

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:21 AM

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have you ever copy-pasted a sector? it pastes it in that mode, assuming you're using gzdoom builder

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:22 AM

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I do use gzdb

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:22 AM

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you see your vertices but also a few at the corners which let you rotate it. you can even drag the sides of your selected sectors past themselves to mirror them

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it's on your left-hand toolbar close to the bottom. very useful. you can even resize things!

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:24 AM

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tada

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haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:26 AM

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mwah

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also mwah

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_232554.png

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I really like doing those shadows

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:26 AM

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uh, am i doing something wrong? i cant open the first door

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:27 AM

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sorry I moved the player start for testing

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I can post the correct version for you

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:27 AM

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sure

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:27 AM

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📎 The_Express_Elevator_to_Hell_and_Back.wad

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:29 AM

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also you couldn't have them directly on top of one another, but you could copy the numbered sectors and flip them using that same tool to give you ceiling numbers that aren't mirrored

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i thought it was a word at first lol

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hehe found a nice secret

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?

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_233201.png

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_213134.png

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when you backtrack to this area, this is closed and you are softlocked

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:32 AM

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it is?

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use the use key on it

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oh and Chunderbucket thats supposed to be a switch

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:33 AM

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i tried and doesnt work

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:34 AM

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weird these are the settings for the door

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https://gyazo.com/a0d29497d06d1dfe07ca27fee8f96ed8

Gyazo

▶ Play video

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:37 AM

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library setpiece is siiick but i ran out of ammo

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:38 AM

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yeah Ive always had a problem with consistent ammo

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:38 AM

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weird, you put a lava flat but it doesnt hurt you on the blue skull key

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:38 AM

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should I make it hurt you?

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:40 AM

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i mean it's lava, or you could change the flat

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:41 AM

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I changed it

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:41 AM

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i got softlocked here too, the lift wont lower

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vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:41 AM

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right should make an exit switch or a use linedef

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lol this is why I need people to test my maps

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:42 AM

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lol i found 27 minutes of my 30 minute map were skippable when i had some folks playtest

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:42 AM

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wow

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a 30 minute map, id like to see that

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:43 AM

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it's almost done

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so im not sure why the revenant trap has invisible impassable lines, could put cage textures to indicate you cant pass there or something

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my ammo gets depleted there, if it wasnt for the berserk pack

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its not bad as of how it is going now, im sure you can make the main lift work better to not just go up and down and go to each floor

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library section was cool

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:47 AM

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thanks

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I thought that was going to be the boring part

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:47 AM

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you still can place more monsters there to make it more interesting

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:47 AM

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ye

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:49 AM

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i would have said the revenant trap is kinda cheap, very small space to engage with 6 revs if you would have closed the door but i can easily just leave there with the door open

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could make it roaming free withouth the impassable lines and close the door with more ammo and a bit of health if you want

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thats my idea of making the trap better

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 4:56 AM

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like this

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haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:59 AM

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well uh i meant the bridge it self where you cant go to the lava

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at least i couldnt jump right there

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191130_220006.png

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like i could jump down there but i cant

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 5:06 AM

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is this what you mean

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haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 5:16 AM

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finally got some 3d floors in action

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20191201_000738.png

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 5:22 AM

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no fing way

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that is sick

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 5:27 AM

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https://www.dfdoom.com/tutorial-sloped-3d-floors/ it was so easy, i found this (which lets you make things more complex like that) and learning putting action 160 on a linedev outside the map that's set to a tag inside the map will set a 3d sector

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from there you just reshape. i've already put up bars for my warehouse rack and am about to put pallets up on a second level. i wish i did this before

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there's definitely some things i want to do that will require scripting, but so far I'm pretty happy at what GZDB will let me do with little fuss

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 5:36 AM

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I got to try that out

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 5:42 AM

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vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 5:43 AM

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waoh

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im still a little confused on how to do it

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 5:44 AM

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well, for that crate there

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I draw a 128x128 box in my room. i tag it sector 1. outside my map, i draw another box 128x128. i take one linedef from this sector and give it the action number of 160 (in udmf, at least) which makes it a 3d sector. i give the action the tag of 1, associating the two. it then creates a 3d cube in my map that is basically the out-of-map sector but inside out

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so if i change the floor, it's really the top, and the inside walls are the outside.

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 5:46 AM

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oh im not using udmf format, I use boom: d2

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 5:47 AM

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it's probably similar, boom should have 3d floors

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 5:47 AM

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?

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haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 5:47 AM

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just a different action tag likely

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my first four maps were all different formats before settling on UDMF :v

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Ill try using udmf later but I made this

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haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 5:51 AM

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ohh i like your caution tape

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i was considering doing that with my floor but got lazy

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and it turns out you can just copy a 3d sector and move the pasted version to a different level without changing any tags to have multiple 3d sectors on top of each other. ive got three layers of pallets now. serious logistics

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once taken out of gimmick contexts this'll open up a lot

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vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 6:00 AM

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dude your map looks so fuckin cool

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 6:00 AM

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those forklifts could all be done in 3d, for example, with only the wheels actually touching the floor.

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my first map is much simpler looking

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vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 6:01 AM

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my first map was awful

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 6:01 AM

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i mean first map i was willing to show people

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my first box - i mean map - was a series of cubes

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but as gzdoom goes in a week or two you're making stuff that makes your old work look like baby puke

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someone in my retro fps chat is even making their own game with the gzdoom engine. it's good stuff

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 6:04 AM

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yeah

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chainsaw only for emergencies

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 6:05 AM

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naturally

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i see you're polishing the hell out of everything

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 6:06 AM

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you think so?

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 6:06 AM

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just fancying things up i mean

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it is a good thing!

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 6:07 AM

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thanks

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 6:12 AM

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i strongly advise figuring out 3d floors in your format tho bc im having a time here

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new levels of explosions

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vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 6:15 AM

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very cool

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what else should go in this room

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haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 6:19 AM

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even if it's sealed with nowhere to go, you'll want a truck bay door or some reason for that forklift to be there

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 6:19 AM

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yes

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 6:19 AM

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half the things i add are giving justification for other props tbh

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 6:19 AM

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thats what I want

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 6:19 AM

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bringing things to life. i've got a coffee mug with sludge coffee

vague bear Dec 1, 2019, 6:22 AM

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haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 6:44 AM

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slowly getting elevation. 2am, tapping out

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haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 2:14 PM

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With UDMF you can set colored sector lighting, right?

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Just like in PS1

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idk about coloured lights but at least i'm done messing with this

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haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 2:49 PM

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turn off advanced rendering so i can tag a sector blocked by those little blue vertices triangles, turn around, convince myself i broke my entire map somehow

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press tab, frantically re-do everything

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Oh yes you can, i'm in love with GZDoom builder

haughty flower Dec 1, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Well well well

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i was playing with lights and i wanted to ear your opinion in how they look @haughty flower

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here, a map for showcasing the new lights. Not intended for gameplay

📎 Initiumbonus1.wad