#classic-doom-maps-mods | DOOM | Page 100

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:15 AM

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gzdoom

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semi-transparent ones?

vague bear Sep 2, 2019, 4:16 AM

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so

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:16 AM

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there's a function to auto-align textures horizontally and vertically in GZDoom Builder

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:16 AM

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like this

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haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:16 AM

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but sometimes it isn't very helpful

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its possible to make decals with transparency, but i wouldnt know how

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:23 AM

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i'd want to use them as lighting effects

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:24 AM

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you mean dynamic lights

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I don't think that's a feature SLADE allows

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because it requires GZDoom format

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(or ZDoom but that's been replaced with GZ)

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ofc, those only work in advanced sourceports such as G/ZDoom

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Doomsday Engine and Eternity too I think

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I hate their look

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:30 AM

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well not as dynamic lights

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but as fake dynamic lights. lol

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https://gyazo.com/9ed8e1b3219da4d3b042a4a1831571c9

Gyazo

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pretty happy with the textures here

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:32 AM

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cool

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I don't get what you mean by fake dynamic lights

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when what you requested were actual dynamic lights

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fake dynamic lights...i suppose just creating an actor with a lightning sprite, but does not emanate lightning

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just glows right?

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20190901_223155.png

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that looks horrible

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:36 AM

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I literally mean just an additive decal to mimic the effect of a dynamic light

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:36 AM

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: shrug :

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kdizd and its odd decision to add "glows"

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:37 AM

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the same concept as faking volumetrics with transparent geometry

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like this

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haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:38 AM

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ah ok

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maybe, wouldnt know, you should go ask around in the zdoom discord i guess

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:38 AM

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yeah id like to figure it out at some point

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:39 AM

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some arena thingy i am working on

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:40 AM

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nice!

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:40 AM

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looks rly kewl

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are you doing this for vanilla btw?

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:41 AM

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if thats lava though behind the stairs , id definitely brighten it

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:41 AM

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if he brightened it it'd affect the ceiling and that'd look worse than having it the same brightness as the rest of the area

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im not sure if to brighten it

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yeah

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thats the reason i didnt lol

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:41 AM

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hmm

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:41 AM

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what I usually do is change the ceiling height

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when that's the case

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:42 AM

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could step it out

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:42 AM

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so it won't look out of place when brightened

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im working on doom vanilla format indeed

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:42 AM

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https://gyazo.com/8b3f59cc620ca90b865d385f6bf5bf53

Gyazo

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:42 AM

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and im close to hit that drawseg limit, because theres a lot of stairs i made on that area

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:42 AM

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its more subtle here

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:42 AM

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yeah in a case like that it works

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:42 AM

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but i made steps of different light levels

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:42 AM

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but on Yosh's room it'd look ugly

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:43 AM

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i still think brightening it makes more sense

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:43 AM

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but would look ugly

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it looks ugly

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:43 AM

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if the ceiling is bright i can justify that because the lava is casting light onto the ceiling

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:43 AM

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and is not like i can do much more to detail lightning because of vanilla limits

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:43 AM

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yeah

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:43 AM

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I'm sure you can detail that place a lot still

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and by that I mean you can modify the architecture

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in a lot of ways

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maybe ill leave it that way for now, im aiming for some movement flow, but im gonna keep experimenting with the lightning

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:46 AM

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id like to see if you change things 🙂

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:46 AM

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vanilla limits

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I'd change the ceiling height on that little space with the redrock

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cause those areas are a little less open between them

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:47 AM

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hmm

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 4:49 AM

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hmmm should swap some stairs for platforms to have a bit more freedom for the limits

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you mean to prevent VPOs?

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its not the visplanes, it's the drawsegs in this case

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I never really care much about drawsegs lol

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so I often forget about them

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mostly affects when you are doing a big open area, and add a lot of geometry, a bunch of stairs in this case

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i still need to test this ground for monsters, before adding more details, its gonna be an arena to run from a poitn to another

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 4:59 AM

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i didnt want to ask but i still can't figure it out...

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how do i make moving (up and down)platforms which trigger when you get close?

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 5:07 AM

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WR Lift Lower Wait Raise

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 5:15 AM

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I wanted to make like a cascading staircase

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like when you get close it raises each step

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ok so i got it to raise when i shoot it...

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now i need to figure out how to trigger it better

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 5:25 AM

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There should be a function for that in specific

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I dont remember the name and i must sleep

deep briar Sep 2, 2019, 6:26 AM

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ok wow I really do not like the way doom does triggers lol

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I wish I could just draw a trigger box and use a multimanager like in source

zinc saddle Sep 2, 2019, 6:27 AM

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RevTriggered here

light prism Sep 2, 2019, 7:48 AM

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umm

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heh

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you can use sector action things to make 'trigger boxes'

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like 'actor enters sector', then you give that a script execute action, which i guess would be the equivalent of a 'multimanager'

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but you'd need to learn ACS scripting for that, though its quite simple

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{
    Action(Parameters);
}```

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 12:21 PM

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I don't think he's using a format that allows for scripting

vague bear Sep 2, 2019, 7:00 PM

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so I think im done with the first area

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but I dont know what should go here

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~~spider mastermind~~
~~cyberdemon~~
~~archvile~~
~~4 revenants~~

vague bear Sep 2, 2019, 8:04 PM

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why is there 3 types of red rock

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Redrock is an animated texture

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Not that there are 3 types

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Those 3 textures are part of its animation

vague bear Sep 2, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Ohh

haughty flower Sep 2, 2019, 10:20 PM

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yeah the animation is so hard to notice

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 1:25 AM

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20190902_212012.png

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dont worry there are 3 arch viles

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 2:07 AM

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I think the spidermaster mind is a mundane boss, and one to even use for maps, a bigger tankier chaingunner that just takes a massive amount of space

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 2:10 AM

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more cyberdemons?

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 2:11 AM

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More master minds and archviles to add to the frustration

zinc saddle Sep 3, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Time Imps

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 2:25 AM

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gaunt lagoon Sep 3, 2019, 2:49 AM

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The Thrown.

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haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 2:54 AM

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very early wip

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running out of ideas

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 2:56 AM

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damm

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 2:56 AM

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not bad dude

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pain

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vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 2:59 AM

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how the hell does that happen

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 2:59 AM

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that isn't an accessible area so I don't have to worry about it anyways... yet

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you never know...

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yeet

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tried making some texture separations here with the green ashwall, what you think

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:17 AM

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eh

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what does this mean

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and why does it take so much cup power

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haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:22 AM

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bro dont

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you dont need that, unless you are mapping for vanilla doom

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:23 AM

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what if this is compatable with vanilla doom

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:24 AM

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i mean more like if you worry that your map wants to be played in ms dos or chocolate doom

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:25 AM

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now is there a way to play this in chocolate doom

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:25 AM

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well, if your map format is doom 2 then yes

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:25 AM

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haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:26 AM

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that's gonna run on boom compatible source ports

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which chocolate doom isnt

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:26 AM

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if I change it, will anything in my map work/stay the same

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:26 AM

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i am not sure tbh

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:27 AM

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im going to save it

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uh

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is it the
Doom: Doom 2 (Doom format)

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:30 AM

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Yes, thats the format compatible for vanilla

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:30 AM

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k

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:30 AM

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ok so that glowing tool that burns your cpu resources

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is to count how many visplanes(the yellow mode) are in your map, if it exceeds more than 128, it will crash your map in msdos/chocolate doom

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useful tool to not surpass these limits and others that the game accounts

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:31 AM

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SHIT

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I tried using the visplane tool

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and GZDB crashed

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:32 AM

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tends to crash gzdb sometimes so gotta save before using that tool or not use it a lot

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the visplane tool has also 3 other modes, if you check it, drawsegs /solidsegs / openings

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:33 AM

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I saw that

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what do those do

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:33 AM

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to check how many of those are, in order to see if you hit past the limit or not

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drawsegs is affected mostly in how much vertices/geometry is drawn in the same area upon the player's view if i understand, something like that

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solidsegs is the same but for solid sectors

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the "hollow" sectors

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openings, im not sure yet, and you really dont need to worry about that one

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visplanes is to check unique sectors

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https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Static_limits

DoomWiki.org

Static limits

This is a list of static limitations of the vanilla Doom engine, including Heretic, Hexen, and Strife. In addition, Doom Classic and Strife: Veteran Edition are also covered. Note that rendering-related limits (such as MAXVISSPRITES) do not apply to Strife: Veteran Edition's ...

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:36 AM

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so is this bad?

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haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:37 AM

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if it does not show a glowing red area anywhere, it is not

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:37 AM

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ok

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so how do I run this in chocolate doom

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:39 AM

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if you get glowing red areas like this, then it is bad

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:39 AM

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how the heck

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:39 AM

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which you have to manually adjust your map, that area, to not surpass those limits

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drag and drop to run in chocolate doom

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maybe, i use a launcher

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:41 AM

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https://gyazo.com/f8ed363e4a454bfb001eb94aadbb62d8

Gyazo

▶ Play video

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:41 AM

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you dont have an iwad in your folder lol

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:41 AM

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oh

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:41 AM

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you need doom2 in there

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:42 AM

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so I put it in there and it gave me the normal doom 2 maps

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:43 AM

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no idea then, like i said, i use a launcher

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google time?

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:43 AM

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im on the chocolate doom website

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I cant find a launcher

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:45 AM

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when i said launcher, i meant zdl which is just a 3rd party program for running doom with different ports

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:45 AM

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o

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:45 AM

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not choco doom itself

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:46 AM

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oh

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should I move to #community-support since I have no idea how to run this

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 3:48 AM

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ye

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 3:48 AM

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ok

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 4:10 AM

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guess ill have to remove stairs man

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the red areas are visplane overflows

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if the player steps over them and looks at a certain direction, that will cause the game to crash

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supposedly i removed stairs, only to create more drawsegs to hit 256

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if you wanna go for respecting the original limits, you can have VPOs as long as they're not accessible by the player

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sometimes the Builder's visplane explorer function isn't accurate and there are actually no VPOs in an area, even if it shows there are

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it's best to use ChocoRenderLimits if you're in doubt

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ChocoRenderLimits is basically Chocolate Doom that shows stats and data for the map

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it'll tell you exactly how many visplanes and drawsegs the area you're standing on has

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hmmm yeah i should try use that one too

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I'm gonna try to finish this map quickly and release a 5-map demo of my project maybe

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idk how to run it 😔

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ChocoRenderLimits?

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yeah

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you gotta download it

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I think the original website with it was taken down but there's an archive of it

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there's a run.bat but i have no idea how to make it work

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I'm sure you can find a link for its download on the thread for Doomkid's project, Rowdy Rudy Powertrip

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found the github but still

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@haughty flower https://web.archive.org/web/20140225101059/http://remood.org/downloads/chocorenderlimits.zip

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oh this looks different from what i dloaded, thanks

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the github is for the sourcecode

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mmm yeah now i see

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i guess it only marks it when out of bounds, and its also on a part that player wont stand normally

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was worrying that this would also crash it

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but draws homs

pure tinsel Sep 3, 2019, 2:29 PM

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hey guys how do i play D o o D in GZdoom

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i have the files but idk how to use em

odd hare Sep 3, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Basically you need to place Doom or Doom II IWAD at GZDoom folder, then drag and drop wad that contains mod to GZDoom.exe

pure tinsel Sep 3, 2019, 2:32 PM

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but there are a bunch of wads

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for the same mod

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i know how to use wads

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but for some reason this is different

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hold on

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odd hare Sep 3, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Try selecting them all and dragging. If that will not work, try ZDL

pure tinsel Sep 3, 2019, 2:34 PM

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zdl?

odd hare Sep 3, 2019, 2:34 PM

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ZDL is a program that allows you to manage your wads

pure tinsel Sep 3, 2019, 2:34 PM

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oh ok

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hold on let me try the former

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oh hey it worked

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thanks

odd hare Sep 3, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Hope this will work

pure tinsel Sep 3, 2019, 2:35 PM

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i already regret my decision to play this

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XD

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 7:34 PM

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so what if the last boss is the icon of sin, 1 cyberdemon, 1 spider mastermind

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and of course, 6 archviles

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10 revenants

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4 pain elementals

light prism Sep 3, 2019, 9:51 PM

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WHAT IF?!??!?!

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 9:51 PM

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what

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light prism Sep 3, 2019, 10:52 PM

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what if?

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 10:53 PM

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what

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Where is the icon of sin that you mentioned?

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 11:02 PM

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hang on

haughty flower Sep 3, 2019, 11:03 PM

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Will you put any cover to not get instantly yeeted?

vague bear Sep 3, 2019, 11:04 PM

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yeah probably

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got this space to work with

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:22 AM

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@vague bear would that be a fun fight tho

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:22 AM

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with the icon of sin?

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:23 AM

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I mean

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just a bunch of monsters put together in a little space

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that they can't even leave

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:23 AM

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well the pain elementals can

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:23 AM

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it just looks like you're trying too hard to make a difficult map

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that seems like a nonsensical fight

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:24 AM

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"Arch-vihell.wad"

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:24 AM

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what's the fun of firing at a bunch of monsters all in the same little space

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Oh im reading these all wrong

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:24 AM

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in a square arena with not really much diverse mobility

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:25 AM

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thats why I want people's opinions

zinc saddle Sep 4, 2019, 12:25 AM

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think an open swuare is bad? XD

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those skiiny pillars everywhere

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:25 AM

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@vague bear sorry if my criticism seems harsh heh, I really don't mean it

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:25 AM

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but I was planning on adding other things in the arena

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no your criticism is great

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:26 AM

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2px solid pillars to cover from archviles

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lel

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:26 AM

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that goes with the name

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:27 AM

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well that whole area in general just seems like a bad idea tbh

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:27 AM

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how so, its shape?

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:29 AM

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Well if you are showing a basic rectangle layout as your arena with not much in it yet, its gonna be seen incomplete

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In an arena you also have to do strategic placement of monsters, for example, if you put pillars around, you could put demons spread around, like revenants or they could spawn cacodemon, whatever you wanna put there, and all separated from each other in the same arena, something like that

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And if you could, also add a path or obstacles to run around while fighting these demons

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Nothing would stop you from doing something similar to a slaughter of putting a bunch of monsters in one square area but well, that depends on how you wanna do your map too

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:34 AM

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ah

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ill change the layout

zinc saddle Sep 4, 2019, 12:36 AM

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shifts everything one pixel to the left

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:36 AM

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You can still work the layout within the square

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:36 AM

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but there is this too

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haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Btw if you are still concerned on making your map conpatible for running on chocolate doom at least, you also have to watch out how big you do your area and how many sectors you add to it

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It can cause an overflow of drawsegs, which causes missing textures/homs

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:37 AM

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I tried running it in CD and it worked

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Yeah, for now, this doesnt look too much yet

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Dont be a dumbo like me and add lots of stairs

light prism Sep 4, 2019, 12:50 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382239204064886785/617797292367544340/0002.gif

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 12:59 AM

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stairs

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zinc saddle Sep 4, 2019, 12:59 AM

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stares

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 1:17 AM

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The blue is so intense it turns into white

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Seems chill

deep briar Sep 4, 2019, 1:17 AM

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nice stairs

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 1:22 AM

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@vague bear how do you go about making those stairs?

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there's a lotta methods

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 1:22 AM

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curved linedefs

deep briar Sep 4, 2019, 1:47 AM

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what are the differences between doom, hexen and UDMF formats?

light prism Sep 4, 2019, 1:48 AM

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lots.

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you listed them in evolutionary order though

haughty flower Sep 4, 2019, 2:31 AM

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differences? yes

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 3:00 AM

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im still going to move the monster targets

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 3:16 AM

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uh what the hell

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I just got this error
Sprite lump "DOOM2.WAD\TROOA2A8" data format could not be read. Does this lump contain valid picture data at all?

mystic chasm Sep 4, 2019, 3:18 AM

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what are the differences between doom, hexen and UDMF formats?

Doom is vanilla
UDMF is the most advanced
If you wanna use Doom In Hexen you might as well use UDMF

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 3:25 AM

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final boss fight

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zinc saddle Sep 4, 2019, 3:25 AM

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black hole generator lol

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 3:25 AM

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why are those candles floating

zinc saddle Sep 4, 2019, 3:25 AM

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dunno tbh

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 3:25 AM

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is that a good amount of monsters?

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plus these guys

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at the start

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zinc saddle Sep 4, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Candles be like

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pain in the ass elementals r gun

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fun

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 3:27 AM

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ill work on this tomorrow

deep briar Sep 4, 2019, 4:22 AM

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so ive figured out how to make slopes like this

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https://gyazo.com/31b9733a49a9bbeb3eedce6d0850855e

Gyazo

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181 linedefs

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is there any way to make a slope on both sides like this?

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https://gyazo.com/22153a98165953c6834a86b7ee92db90

Gyazo

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i couldnt get it to work

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 4:29 AM

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You can try getting it to be as close as possible with the tiniest grid size

deep briar Sep 4, 2019, 4:31 AM

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hm

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thats not very elegant

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i guess the answer is 'no' then

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 4:45 AM

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were you able to go to 1 unit

light prism Sep 4, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Mr_Forbidden: I just got this error Sprite lump "DOOM2.WAD\TROOA2A8" data format could not be read. Does this lump contain valid picture data at all?

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sometimes gzdb does this

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nothing wrong with the files, it just doesnt read them properly

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Mumumumu: is there any way to make a slope on both sides like this?

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yes

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various ways

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the quickest probably would be vertex slopes

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but they need triangular sectors to work

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if you're in UDMF format, by default, any triangular sector will have the little vertex height arrows/pyramids on them

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if its toggled off, its the second to last button (before the 'play' looking one)

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'show editable vertices (visual mode)'

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Oh damn I want to try making something in UDMF

deep briar Sep 4, 2019, 5:46 AM

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OH

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interesting

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so the other method works for hexen/doom?

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vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 5:49 AM

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Nice

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I’ve never used slades editor

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For making maps that is

deep briar Sep 4, 2019, 5:50 AM

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I'm using doom builder here

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Oh lol

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GZBD or DB2?

deep briar Sep 4, 2019, 5:53 AM

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GZDB bugfix

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 5:53 AM

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uh oh

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I don’t have the bug fix one, I think

deep briar Sep 4, 2019, 5:54 AM

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are there any downsides to using UDMF format?

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 5:54 AM

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I’ve never used it, so I don’t know

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But you won’t be able to run it on chocolate doom or the dos version

deep briar Sep 4, 2019, 6:17 AM

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does the linedef method of making slopes work for doom and hexen formats?

light prism Sep 4, 2019, 7:19 AM

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UDMF format (despite the U standing for universal) is only fully supported by a couple of ports

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and primarily g/zdoom

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the line slope action is in DiH, yes

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but honestly if you are using DiH you might as well be using UDMF, because it takes the hackiness of DiH's methods and integrates them properly into the map format

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like texture scaling/rotating

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vertex heights

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fade color/density

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if there's a 'downside' to udmf, its that you can get mired in the amount of detail you can apply

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which can make you lose focus on the overall fun factor/flow of the map

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but of course, you don't NEED to do any of that stuff, you can use UDMF and just ignore all the extra functionality

royal wave Sep 4, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Rough attempt at a liquor bottle

📎 77.png

zinc saddle Sep 4, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Go drunk, you're home

vague bear Sep 4, 2019, 6:24 PM

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your , home go drunk

royal wave Sep 4, 2019, 6:24 PM

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also the U in Universal Doom Map Format doesn't mean it's support on other engines, it means it's future proofed

zinc saddle Sep 4, 2019, 6:25 PM

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insert Squidward future

royal wave Sep 4, 2019, 6:25 PM

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whole point of it is we don't have to keep making new formats to accommodate features

light prism Sep 4, 2019, 9:39 PM

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shouldnt it be called CDMF

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Consolidated Doom Map Format

deep briar Sep 5, 2019, 2:12 AM

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can picking up a weapon be a trigger?

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I'm trying to make it so when a weapon is picked up it closes a door

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is that possible?

haughty flower Sep 5, 2019, 2:13 AM

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yes

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make it execute a script

deep briar Sep 5, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Action?

haughty flower Sep 5, 2019, 2:14 AM

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automatically when you apply it to do that action, it'll be executed when the player picks it up

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same with killing a monster

deep briar Sep 5, 2019, 2:15 AM

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ah yeah

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now to get my door to work

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so I gave it a tag

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and the weapon has the same tag

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but the weapon contains the action

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correct?

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ah yes, got it

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....im not a fan of doom scripting

light prism Sep 5, 2019, 3:39 AM

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wah

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its just simplified C bruvva

olive vortex Sep 5, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Wad I'm working on. Thinking I'm gonna have a Non-Euclydian based plot line

📎 Screenshot_20190905-115512.png 📎 Screenshot_20190905-115520.png

light prism Sep 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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how can a plotline be noneuclidian

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plotlines are not geometry

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its like saying the color yellow tastes like biology

mystic chasm Sep 5, 2019, 11:11 PM

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is that on a phone?

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@olive vortex

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it is

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wack

olive vortex Sep 6, 2019, 12:48 AM

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@mystic chasm yes it's on phone, I download my test wads to it while in at work

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@light prism and I mean like, based on Non-Euclydian portals, just meant to fuck with your head

light prism Sep 6, 2019, 12:49 AM

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sadly you cant reallllly do that

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you cant have an area that folds back on itself with different verticality

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and stacked interactive portals need to be exactly spaced as they are from their origins

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you could have two separate areas that look the same though

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with a stairwell at the bottom leading to one at the top of the other, etc

olive vortex Sep 6, 2019, 1:45 AM

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I mean, they don't HAVE to look the same

deep briar Sep 6, 2019, 3:18 AM

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is there any way to trigger something when the player spawns?

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I just want a little event that lays out the player's goal when they first start the map

light prism Sep 6, 2019, 3:26 AM

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script 1 ENTER

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in acs

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ENTER scripts run on the player entering the map.

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and treat him as the activator

deep briar Sep 6, 2019, 3:54 AM

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ah ok

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thanks!

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that worked.

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i think im getting the hang of this (:

light prism Sep 6, 2019, 4:07 AM

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yeah

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acs aint tough

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and its very versatile

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHEgCRkMTEA

YouTube

TheMisterCat

PacMan for GZDoom

Pac-Man written by me using GDCC by DavidPH A nice little example project of how flexible GDCC is over ACS. GDCC Builds available at: https://www.dropbox.com...

▶ Play video

deep briar Sep 6, 2019, 4:09 AM

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I was scared to use scripts before but i guess its not really that difficult

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what function should I use to print a message? kinda like in hexen when the main villain talks to you

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https://youtu.be/dTrI2im443k?t=271

YouTube

LongplayArchive

Longplay of Hexen: Beyond Heretic

Longplay of Hexen: Beyond Heretic, played on on a MS-DOS emulator (DosBox). This game's version was released on Oct. 30th, 1995. Please give the video a like...

▶ Play video

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heres the example

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@4:32

haughty flower Sep 6, 2019, 4:27 AM

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go to the zdoom wiki

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it has all the info you need

deep briar Sep 6, 2019, 4:32 AM

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oooo

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ik this is the simplest script ever but im so excited that this works haha

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📎 1469aad5342ca54a6c453ba95aa72478.png

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📎 DOOM_2__Hell_on_Earth_6_09_2019_2_35_30_PM.png

mystic chasm Sep 6, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Hello World

deep briar Sep 6, 2019, 4:37 AM

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perfectly appropriate

haughty flower Sep 6, 2019, 4:37 AM

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very cheesy

zinc saddle Sep 6, 2019, 4:38 AM

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very humerus sans

vague bear Sep 6, 2019, 4:46 AM

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I need to do that text shit

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I’d like to at one point

haughty flower Sep 6, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Greetings mortal, i'd like to add you to my linked in

light prism Sep 6, 2019, 9:19 AM

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are you strong enough to eat a whole tractor

foggy folio Sep 6, 2019, 9:31 AM

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I'm considering on paying money to watch that happen glarethink

zinc saddle Sep 6, 2019, 1:47 PM

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wasn't someone wanting to know how to force a player to have all the keys in order to open the exit?

📎 Screenshot_1898.png

olive vortex Sep 6, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Re did my map that U showed earlier, Think I'm gonna make hell into an IceHell

📎 Screenshot_20190906-111908.png 📎 Screenshot_20190906-111844.png 📎 Screenshot_20190906-111809.png

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More atmospheric I feel

haughty flower Sep 6, 2019, 7:34 PM

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📎 unknown.png

vague bear Sep 6, 2019, 9:53 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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uh oh

vague bear Sep 6, 2019, 11:33 PM

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holy crap

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my map works

deep briar Sep 7, 2019, 1:10 AM

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how do i make a camera switch back to the player ?

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I just have a ChangeCamera but when it is activated it stays active forever

mystic chasm Sep 7, 2019, 1:39 AM

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237:ChangeCamera (tid, who, revert)

tid: Thing ID of the camera to use (0 for normal player's view)
who: Set to 1 if the view change should affect all players
revert: Set to 1 if movement should cancel the special

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ChangeCamera(0,0,0); will set it back to normal

golden drum Sep 7, 2019, 1:41 AM

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@knotty plaza Oops wrong channel. I was looking through my wads and found your old Test_Map2.wad. Just out of curiosity, did you ever finish it?

deep briar Sep 7, 2019, 3:07 AM

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but it all happens in the same tick

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@mystic chasm

mystic chasm Sep 7, 2019, 3:09 AM

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you have two ChangeCamera calls in the same script or what?

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... what are you trying to do actually

deep briar Sep 7, 2019, 3:16 AM

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i wanted to make a small 1 second cutscene

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https://gyazo.com/7b6aca7da449b3ddcdf14c10eefc64f7

Gyazo

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i ended up with this

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which works though im not sure if its the best way to do it

light prism Sep 7, 2019, 7:07 AM

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just delay(35); is fine

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and you should change the second one to ChangeCamera(0, 0, 0)

knotty plaza Sep 7, 2019, 8:59 AM

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@golden drum I never really finished it, but I believe I have a slightly updated version somewhere on my computer. If you want, I could try to find it.

haughty flower Sep 8, 2019, 4:20 AM

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📎 TITLEPIC.png

deep briar Sep 8, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Dark

haughty flower Sep 8, 2019, 5:53 AM

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dark maps > bright maps

deep briar Sep 8, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Spooki

hard elmBOT Sep 8, 2019, 6:35 AM

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Indeed!

vague bear Sep 8, 2019, 11:55 PM

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should I add custom MIDI music to my cool doom wad

haughty flower Sep 9, 2019, 12:05 AM

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always @vague bear

vague bear Sep 9, 2019, 12:06 AM

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k

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ill work on that in a bit

haughty flower Sep 9, 2019, 12:06 AM

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I usually use midis from other DOS games

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like Marathon, Descent, RoTT, Duke3D, etc.

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though I also prefer using midis that haven't been used before

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as long as it's fitting for the map, I'll use it

vague bear Sep 9, 2019, 12:07 AM

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so like some rock midis?

haughty flower Sep 9, 2019, 12:08 AM

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yeah but try not using some cheap ones lol

vague bear Sep 9, 2019, 12:08 AM

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what do you mean by cheap

haughty flower Sep 9, 2019, 12:14 AM

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@vague bear I mean obviously low quality or generic midis

vague bear Sep 9, 2019, 12:15 AM

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oh

haughty flower Sep 9, 2019, 12:20 AM

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using the default midi, in my eyes, is just lazy and shows you don't care enough about your map

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a bad midi will vastly worsen the experience

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a fitting one will do the contrary

vague bear Sep 9, 2019, 12:22 AM

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ok

mystic chasm Sep 9, 2019, 12:25 AM

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http://jamespaddockmusic.com/midis/

James Paddock Music

James Paddock

MIDIs by Jimmy (or Jimmidis)

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he also does music for doom wads specifically

vague bear Sep 9, 2019, 12:27 AM

#

o

mystic chasm Sep 9, 2019, 12:27 AM

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if you are targeting zdoom, it supports tracker music

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which is FAR better imo

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(fyi, Jimmy did the midi version of the soundtrack for Sigil)

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👍

haughty flower Sep 9, 2019, 12:41 AM

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he actually made it for a canceled project of his, then Romero asked if he could use his music

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which is why it's so unfitting for Sigil lol

light prism Sep 9, 2019, 1:12 AM

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here

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use this

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/179862926809759744/504531703294066689/fruzzle.mid

deep briar Sep 9, 2019, 3:11 AM

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📎 ae7b35777d02dff44e145b19d224e919.png

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i finally got a custom monster to work

foggy folio Sep 9, 2019, 3:16 AM

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It's beautiful and also concerning

vague bear Sep 9, 2019, 3:20 AM

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no pls no

light prism Sep 9, 2019, 3:31 AM

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is that some sort of corn-flavoured candy floss

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/530481274784317470/620090453873786913/gzdoom_2019-09-08_14-55-55-02.gif

foggy folio Sep 9, 2019, 3:42 AM

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I don't know what that is but I love it

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A+ - +

light prism Sep 9, 2019, 3:44 AM

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its ur uncle back for revenge

foggy folio Sep 9, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Uncle Jorge is that you? ripandtear

deep briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:22 AM

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that looks awesome

light prism Sep 9, 2019, 5:27 AM

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blender 4 lyfe

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📎 unknown.png

dry ore Sep 9, 2019, 5:42 AM

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daaamn that looks cool

deep briar Sep 9, 2019, 5:47 AM

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awesome

deep briar Sep 9, 2019, 11:25 AM

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@light prism do you have any previous work i could check out?

light prism Sep 9, 2019, 11:27 AM

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📎 pac.pk3

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📎 RogueDL.pk3

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📎 piano.wad

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📎 slots.gif

modern aspen Sep 9, 2019, 12:33 PM

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does anyone know of any Wolfenstein 3D texture packs ?

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like one that has rips of Wolfenstein 3D's textures

haughty flower Sep 9, 2019, 1:22 PM

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Oh, fantastic

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Looks similar to that diablo 3 boss

mystic chasm Sep 9, 2019, 6:34 PM

#

@modern aspen
You could always load your mod on top of this
https://www.afadoomer.com/wolf3d/about.html

Wolfenstein 3D Total Conversion

Wolfenstein 3D Total Conversion for ZDoom by AFADoomer

modern aspen Sep 9, 2019, 6:38 PM

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actually i did find that one already

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and im using it for my secret map

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after somebody accused me of not even trying to find things myself because i didn't know of this total conversion

light prism Sep 10, 2019, 2:05 AM

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that was me

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j'accuse

modern aspen Sep 10, 2019, 2:19 AM

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no im pretty sure that was someone else

light prism Sep 10, 2019, 2:46 AM

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stop trying to find who accused you

foggy folio Sep 10, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Dishonored 3 confirmed

deep briar Sep 10, 2019, 3:45 AM

#

what missile flag gives off a dynamic light?

#

also why is AttackSound not working with A_SpawnProjectile ?

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i thought it would

light prism Sep 10, 2019, 10:46 AM

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there is no flag for dynamic lights

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you can attach an existing definition (from gldefs) in decorate by doing light("LightName")

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like

#

{
    Spawn:
    POOP A 1 light("PoopLight")
    loop
}```

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or

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you can do it entirely in gldefs

#

{
    color 1.0 1.0 1.0
    size 32
    offset 0 8 0 (y is height here)
    attenuated 1
}

object MyActorName
{
    frame POOP { light MyLightName } 
}```

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/GLDEFS

GLDEFS

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for more info

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also, spawning a projectile will make the sound eminate from the projectile actors SeeSound, not the attacking actor

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if you want the attacking actor to make a sound, just use A_PlaySound

main gorge Sep 10, 2019, 10:58 AM

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So i have a problem,

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i am using the uberminigun from realm667 and it seems that when i try to fire, the moment it starts to shoot the sprite just seems to get missalinged and becomes way smaller than it should be

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this has just started happening, i didnt have this problem before

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ACTOR UberMinigun : Weapon 23456
{
//$Category GUNS
Weapon.SlotNumber 5
Inventory.PickupMessage "You got the UberMinigun!"
Inventory.PickupSound "misc/w_pkup"
Weapon.SelectionOrder 400
Weapon.Kickback 90
Weapon.AmmoType "Clip"
Weapon.AmmoGive 100
Weapon.AmmoUse 1
Obituary "%k turned %o into swiss cheese using %p Uberminigun"
States
{
Spawn:
MINI A -1
LOOP
Ready:
MING A 9 A_WeaponReady
Loop
Deselect:
MING A 1 A_Lower
NULL AA 0 A_LOWER
LOOP
Select:
MING A 1 A_Raise
NULL AA 0 A_RAISE
LOOP
Fire:
MING A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/minigunup")
MING BCDEFGH 2
MING CEGABCDEFGHACEGE 1
Hold:
MINF A 0 A_GunFlash
MINF A 0 A_PlayweaponSound("weapons/minigun")
MINF A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/minigunhold")
MINF A 1 BRIGHT A_FireBullets (5.6, 0, 2, 5, "BulletPuff")
//MINF A 0 A_PlayweaponSound("weapons/minigun")
MINF C 1 BRIGHT //A_FireBullets (5.6, 0, 2, 5, "BulletPuff")
// MINF A 0 A_PlayweaponSound("weapons/minigun")
MINF B 1 BRIGHT //A_FireBullets (5.6, 0, 2, 5, "BulletPuff")
MING C 0 A_ReFire
MING A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/minigundown")
MING A 1
MING C 1
MING E 1
MING G 1
MING A 1
MING B 1
MING C 1
MING D 1
MING E 1
MING F 1
MING G 1
MING H 1
MING ABCDEFGH 1
MING ABCDEFGH 2
Goto Ready
}
}

#

📎 wtf.png

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Please help!

vague bear Sep 10, 2019, 11:29 AM

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Heh

light prism Sep 10, 2019, 11:41 AM

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no idea, information provided irrelevant, and please dont post whole actors like that

odd hare Sep 10, 2019, 11:44 AM

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pastebin.com
BTW

mystic chasm Sep 10, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Check your Sprite offsets

light prism Sep 10, 2019, 12:20 PM

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sprite offsets unlikely to re-scale the sprite to be that small

main gorge Sep 10, 2019, 12:59 PM

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what information should i post that would be relevant

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thank you for trying to help

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sorry for posting whole actors

odd hare Sep 10, 2019, 2:08 PM

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@main gorge memes, even if they are modding related, go to #172869448863055872

vague bear Sep 10, 2019, 8:20 PM

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📎 unknown.png

zinc saddle Sep 10, 2019, 8:20 PM

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s Q u A r E s

vague bear Sep 10, 2019, 8:20 PM

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im talking about the white spots

#

it looks cool

haughty flower Sep 10, 2019, 8:50 PM

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what are the squares for?

vague bear Sep 10, 2019, 8:51 PM

#

here

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well they are the monsters for the "boss" fight

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so im going to mark it as a spoiler

📎 SPOILER_unknown.png

haughty flower Sep 10, 2019, 8:52 PM

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so I'm guessing they teleport

vague bear Sep 10, 2019, 8:53 PM

#

yes

haughty flower Sep 12, 2019, 4:56 AM

#

@main gorge have you changed the offsets of the weapon sprite in a program such as Slade?

main gorge Sep 12, 2019, 5:57 AM

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I have not changed the offsets, i have slade 3 and i have done alot of things in slade, but not change offsets, if that makes any sense.. ill check that out

vague bear Sep 12, 2019, 8:38 PM

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so I finally got to finding a midi

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I like it, but I dont know if it fits

#

📎 Death_-_Death_Medley.mid

#

holy shit, I just realized its 11 minutes long

vague bear Sep 12, 2019, 8:58 PM

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📎 unknown.png

vague bear Sep 12, 2019, 10:10 PM

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um it took me 11:26 to beat my map with all 100%

haughty flower Sep 12, 2019, 10:12 PM

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means you are gonna post it soon so we can all ~~judge it very carefully~~enjoy it?

vague bear Sep 12, 2019, 10:12 PM

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yeah, Im just finishing things up

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like making sure the midis work

#

📎 unknown.png

haughty flower Sep 12, 2019, 10:17 PM

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i havent touched doombuilder in two weeks, im a bastard

vague bear Sep 12, 2019, 10:18 PM

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oof

light prism Sep 12, 2019, 11:36 PM

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she'll be calling for a divorce soon

vague bear Sep 12, 2019, 11:39 PM

#

o

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 1:32 AM

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yes it works

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and yeah, I was able to beat it, so you guys should be able to do that also

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 2:14 AM

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📎 Arch-vihell.wad

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(hopefully) this is the final version

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 2:34 AM

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📎 unknown.png

#

tutti frutti

#

📎 unknown.png

light prism Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 AM

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delicious

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 AM

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your midi is not working

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 2:40 AM

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oof

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It works in gzdoom though

#

I don’t know why the midi file doesn’t work in chocolate doom or what ever source port you are playing on

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 2:42 AM

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yeah chocolate doom

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Well good luck with the rest of the map

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 2:52 AM

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done

#

coudlnt reach 100% even with archviles revivals

#

i see i missed one invulnerability secret with a hellknight and baron

#

📎 unknown.png

#

it was somewhat difficult, i kinda enjoyed it but i think it needs more ammo to reach a 100%, i was missing 3 monsters, 2 hellknights and a baron, checked ammo everywhere and not even from secrets could i reach it

#

not a bad map, it can still have some more details on a few parts

#

the part i didnt like was the revenant zig zag corridor

#

it can be beaten pretty fairly, just needs a bit more ammo, not that much

#

i wish i could have recorded that specific teleporter trap of the 4 archviles

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i had to maneuver in and out to get the ammo, so to power up my bfg

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but maybe i could be wrong with the ammo part and i didnt spend it well, but sure it is somewhat tight

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Alright

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And congratulations

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 3:06 AM

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im not sure about the midi, maybe chocodoom doesnt support something

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but i listened it on gzdoom and its good

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i guess

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 3:06 AM

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I didn’t know what else to pick

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Better than default doom soundtrack

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 3:07 AM

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anything is better than default entryway music

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 3:08 AM

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I definitely could of been a bit more generous with the ammunition

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 3:08 AM

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were you able to 100% kills with your setup?

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Yes

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It must of been the trap with the red key

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Hmmm if i could have saved more of my ammo on the cyberdemon arena with the infighting monsters, maybe i could have done it, and well kinda that too, i didnt straight run to the stairs until the archies appeared

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 3:10 AM

#

a

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Other than the ammo, is the map good

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 3:12 AM

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it's good and simple, but a few parts could have a better design/lightning

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is it your first map?

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 3:13 AM

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my first map that I’m letting people play

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 3:13 AM

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ah cool beans, then it is some good progress tbh

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 3:14 AM

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where could the lighting be improved

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 3:15 AM

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you could add torches and make a simple light area on the zig zag leading to the cyber arena

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if im not wrong,when i saw the automap the wall was like some ceiling/floor sector, you could delete it to make it just walls

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 3:16 AM

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do you know where that is?

haughty flower Sep 13, 2019, 3:17 AM

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you just could select the whole sector and press delete

#

uuuh

#

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20190912_211455.png

#

📎 unknown.png

#

they should look like this when you delete them

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Oh

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Alright I’ll fix that tomorrow

#

Wait on gzbd it shows all the lines?

fickle lagoon Sep 13, 2019, 4:18 AM

#

https://youtu.be/EFgBXPNO2pM

YouTube

DderNabroc

Doom 4 Vanilla - E1M1

A play through the 1st level with extra fancy stuff... enjoy. Mods: Gzdoom - https://zdoom.org/downloads Ultimate Doom Visor Hud - https://www.moddb.com/mods...

▶ Play video

royal wave Sep 13, 2019, 8:47 PM

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📎 110172-absinthe-antitoxin-50cl-800x1200.png

#

📎 2B.png

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 8:48 PM

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that should probably go in #showroom-archive

royal wave Sep 13, 2019, 8:59 PM

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It's for a mod I'm planning

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 9:00 PM

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OH

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sorry

royal wave Sep 13, 2019, 9:01 PM

#

📎 77.png

vague bear Sep 13, 2019, 9:10 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

light prism Sep 13, 2019, 9:39 PM

#

indiana jones and the legend of the crystal skull vodka?

royal wave Sep 13, 2019, 10:08 PM

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📎 77_6.png

#

Alestorm is what I'm calling it @light prism

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It's going to involve a lot of alcohol

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and I knew I needed to make a nod towards Antitoxin Absinthe

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and this is the sort of attitude I want it to invoke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ_eVIZkjZE

YouTube

Napalm Records

ALESTORM - Alestorm (Official Video) | Napalm Records

Pre-order "No Grave But The Sea" now! http://www.alestorm.napalmrecords.com Out May 26 The one and only heavy metal pirates of ALESTORM are back, and they've...

▶ Play video

vague bear Sep 14, 2019, 3:27 AM

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royal wave Sep 14, 2019, 5:45 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jhVpS1yqpg

YouTube

kevansevans

Drunk Doomguy

Proof of concept

▶ Play video

final citrus Sep 15, 2019, 12:59 AM

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That's... uh... quite a small UI to use in MAP27

light prism Sep 15, 2019, 1:06 AM

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thats uhhh... a very strange and irrelevant comment

final citrus Sep 15, 2019, 1:08 AM

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🤔 Wonder why he scaled it down so much

light prism Sep 15, 2019, 1:08 AM

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it's not, he is just at high resolution

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but its also completely irrelevant to the content he's showcasing

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its like if you posted a screenshot and i commented on the window title bar color

final citrus Sep 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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That's fair.

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I was wondering if that was the case myself

haughty flower Sep 15, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Well that drunk aiming made me felt uncomfortable

vague bear Sep 15, 2019, 2:02 AM

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Here is an updated version

📎 Arch-vihell.wad

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but now that ive finished that, I want to make a new one

haughty flower Sep 15, 2019, 2:46 AM

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go ahead, unless some strange force is stopping you to do it

vague bear Sep 15, 2019, 2:47 AM

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there is a force stopping me

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its called
"not having an idea"

haughty flower Sep 15, 2019, 2:54 AM

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play more doom maps to get inspired i dunno

light prism Sep 15, 2019, 4:35 AM

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play some real life

haughty flower Sep 15, 2019, 6:10 PM

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a small update of my map

grand tulip Sep 15, 2019, 10:01 PM

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how do i change a tagged 3d sector linedef tag to 0? and remove 3d mid texture after reaching a certain offset/height (or after an action is finished)? 😒

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📎 fga.png

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i need to raise the cage to the second floor above (second 3d floor) and have the bars (3d mid) removed by then for access

jade rain Sep 15, 2019, 10:51 PM

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how the fuck do i make wads

vague bear Sep 15, 2019, 10:59 PM

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your maps look so much better than mine

mystic chasm Sep 15, 2019, 11:25 PM

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@grand tulip
if you're trying to raise the cage bars:
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Sector_Attach3dMidtex
or self referencing sector probably
also
https://zdoom.org/wiki/SetFloorTrigger and https://zdoom.org/wiki/SetCeilingTrigger
https://zdoom.org/wiki/SetLineTexture

light prism Sep 16, 2019, 12:39 AM

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also Line_SetBlocking

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though if they're set with 3d midtex that may be unnecessary if the texture is removed

jade rain Sep 16, 2019, 12:51 AM

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hello

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i need some help

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how do i make it so i can actually play my map

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it sends me the first map of doom 2

light prism Sep 16, 2019, 1:03 AM

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need more information

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what did you save your map number as

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show me the f2 screen on gzdb

jade rain Sep 16, 2019, 1:04 AM

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waht

light prism Sep 16, 2019, 1:04 AM

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open your map in doombuilder

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press f2

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and screenshot and paste here

jade rain Sep 16, 2019, 1:04 AM

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📎 Screenshot_5.png

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its babys first doom wad

light prism Sep 16, 2019, 1:05 AM

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you skipped a step

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press f2

jade rain Sep 16, 2019, 1:06 AM

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oh

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fuck

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wait

light prism Sep 16, 2019, 1:07 AM

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i am waiting already

jade rain Sep 16, 2019, 1:10 AM

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sorry my f2 button was not wanting to work

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light prism Sep 16, 2019, 1:12 AM

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you called it GAMEMAP1

vague bear Sep 16, 2019, 1:12 AM

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whats in the weird shapes

light prism Sep 16, 2019, 1:12 AM

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so that is the map name you need to change to

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or change it to MAP01 there

jade rain Sep 16, 2019, 1:12 AM

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oh ok

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oh man

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thats the most terrible thing ever

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it truly is babys first doom wad

light prism Sep 16, 2019, 1:15 AM

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gotta start somewhere

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but yeah the standard format is MAPxx so you might as well leave it as that

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since it should default to MAP01 every time you start a new file

haughty flower Sep 16, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Is this place active?

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I was wondering if it's possible to have slade stuff and doombuilder stuff in the same wad file

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I.e. doombuilder maps and slade weapons

light prism Sep 16, 2019, 3:20 AM

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yes

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it is possible to have maps and DECORATE/zscript in the same bundle

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you just have to be careful not to disrupt the map lump order for most formats

haughty flower Sep 16, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Gotcha

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I'm new to doom modding

grand tulip Sep 16, 2019, 6:06 PM

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@mystic chasm thanks a lot i will try that (SetFloorTrigger)

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@light prism yes its a 3d midtex so it blocks players by default, but my question was the commnad to set it to none once its reached the height

mystic chasm Sep 16, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Couldn't find a command to change flags for UDMF Line_SetIdentification doesn't work in UDMF

grand tulip Sep 16, 2019, 6:16 PM

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im on doom in hexen format

mystic chasm Sep 16, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Oh

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Use that then 😃

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Line_SetIdentification

Line SetIdentification

grand tulip Sep 16, 2019, 6:21 PM

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so a script in a script 😄 set line id flag to zero when SetCeilingTrigger finished

mystic chasm Sep 16, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Or just use delay(), w/e you prefer

grand tulip Sep 16, 2019, 6:22 PM

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ill stick with SetCeilingTrigger and test it

mystic chasm Sep 16, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Still wanna know what you use to change flags on linedefs in UDMF

grand tulip Sep 16, 2019, 6:49 PM

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🤔

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 2:52 AM

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i cant wait to tag all these mf sectors once im done

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 3:17 AM

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i'm close to that state of being overbloated to keep track of things

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my brain is a peanut

vague bear Sep 17, 2019, 3:18 AM

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looks nice

viscid pond Sep 17, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Don't you love it when you get so...picky on minor things

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I know I do

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Ah yeah "A job well done on this room... 5 seconds later... needs more stuff, i need to add more"

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 6:56 AM

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@haughty flower hah, I like that top-down view

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also, I don't know if this is the best place to post this, but I'm laughing so hard at this salt

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@vague bear add some pillars to this area. It's not really fair to fight Archviles without having any cover to protect yourself with

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I got stuck on this detail and died because of it lol

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this room doesn't offer nearly as many resources for what it puts the player through

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Overall, crazy difficult map, if it was submitted for Hell Revealed 2 it'd probably be accepted if it was a bit longer and had a bit more detail

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overall the level layout is pretty weird and basic, that's something you improve on as you continue making levels / play more levels and see what they do right

vague bear Sep 17, 2019, 7:27 AM

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I see

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I guess it’s my way of playing that made me think it’s fair

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Which is one of the reasons I wanted people to try it out, especially you Raiva, that includes Cool Blue Yosh too

dry ore Sep 17, 2019, 8:03 AM

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help?

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i got a new laptop and decided to get back into mapmaking, then this popped up

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 8:07 AM

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@dry ore try installing direct 3d 9

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I think that's what this represents lol

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if that persists, make sure you downloaded a version of GZDB that is compatible with your system

dry ore Sep 17, 2019, 8:08 AM

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my old laptop was also windows 10 64-bit

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but let me try that

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huh

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am i installing the right thing

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 8:18 AM

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@dry ore nop

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thinking better about it, it's probably not a problem with DirectX

dry ore Sep 17, 2019, 8:18 AM

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i'll install the bugfix version

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 8:18 AM

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yea do that

dry ore Sep 17, 2019, 8:18 AM

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i had regular gzdoom builder on my old laptop

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 8:18 AM

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it's better anyways, has more features

dry ore Sep 17, 2019, 8:18 AM

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aight

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same error

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i do have a way better videocard now, maybe that's the problem?

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 8:25 AM

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no clue

dry ore Sep 17, 2019, 8:27 AM

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i still have my old laptop, but i'm planning to format the drive, so i'm not sure if i'm going to be able to continue working on my maps there either

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 1:19 PM

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I havent played eviternity but that sounds like some silly rant

dry ore Sep 17, 2019, 4:32 PM

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trying something interesting with the bookshelves

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i decided that they looked a little bit too flat

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so i fixed that

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question: is it possible to rotate a wall

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for example, rotating one of those bookshelves by 90 degrees

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Yes, select the sector, or lines, press E, it will highlight to be edited, holdclick on one of the squares and drag it to rotate it to 90 degrees

dry ore Sep 17, 2019, 5:01 PM

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so i placed down a decoration...

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and it doesn't show up in the game

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okay they show up in the game, but not in the 3D room view, help?

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it appears I had pressed T by accident

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Yes, you press T to show/hide things in 3d mode

dry ore Sep 17, 2019, 5:10 PM

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also thanks for the tip!

vague bear Sep 17, 2019, 9:24 PM

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damn, looks better than mine already

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I just got an idea, "Lost in Hell.wad"

vague bear Sep 17, 2019, 10:19 PM

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haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Doin crack

vague bear Sep 17, 2019, 10:53 PM

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oh no he found out

haughty flower Sep 17, 2019, 10:53 PM

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idk what else to say

vague bear Sep 17, 2019, 10:53 PM

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well I just started

foggy folio Sep 17, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Illegal drugs in my Doom Map ( ͡O ͜ʖ ͡O)

vague bear Sep 17, 2019, 10:55 PM

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you got the joke

foggy folio Sep 17, 2019, 10:56 PM

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🚓

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 12:27 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLA1mHqCzAg

YouTube

Ochre Cliffs

Duke Nukem 2 Soundtrack - General MIDI Conversion (EYE & I 4 MB v4.1)

MIDIs can be downloaded here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r4a4b04fczkcq49/AACY1ZIw4B_Y2mpGjde01wSJa?dl=0 0:00 - Fanfare For Duke II 0:07 - On the Range 1:17 -...

▶ Play video

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thought of sharing this i found, inside the video there's a link with the files on midi format

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this ost sounds cool, maybe gonna end up using one track for some map

twilit atlas Sep 18, 2019, 12:36 AM

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i am a Back

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 12:37 AM

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the midi files sound too upbeat for hell right?

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 12:38 AM

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I think most would fit for some kind of tech map but i dont see why not some others couldnt be used for hell

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And just realized that bobby prince composed this

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 1:09 AM

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Forbidden, I forgot to mention that the midi you used for your map is so fast that Chocolate Doom couldn't handle it lol

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:09 AM

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yeah lol

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it works in GZDoom though, so thats nice?

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 1:10 AM

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I can't see that Duke Nukem 2 track being used in anything but a 90s wad

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:11 AM

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I dont know if you saw before, but is this good so far

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haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 1:12 AM

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seems very basic

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:12 AM

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yeah

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I just started

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 1:12 AM

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big and empty, could be used as the hub for the next rooms

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:13 AM

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but I also want the player to underestimate the rest of the map

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cause I want it to be complex and stuff

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and if they see the first room, they will think that this is easy

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do you see what im trying to go for?

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 1:17 AM

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thats what terry wads do

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and terrance pk3's

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 1:17 AM

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lul

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:17 AM

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im not trying to make a terry wad

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im not that type of person

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 1:18 AM

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he's just joking

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:18 AM

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yea

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 1:18 AM

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yeah I see what you're going for

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:19 AM

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is that a good idea though?

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 1:20 AM

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if you do it right, yeah

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:20 AM

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you know that one castle level in eviternity?

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 1:20 AM

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difficulty ramping is a core part of gameplay

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in basically every game

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:20 AM

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the very first chapter

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 1:20 AM

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yeah, it was designed by a friend of mine

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:20 AM

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oh wow

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 1:21 AM

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map15 I think

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 1:21 AM

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any ways, what I was thinking was to make some sort of thing like that, but not do exactly what they did, but I have an idea for a library part

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it will take a while to pull off

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but I really want to do this

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 5:02 AM

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yeah, finally it's all coming together

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time to test play and clean the shit out of it

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idk, my excuse was to use this meme somehow

deep briar Sep 18, 2019, 8:51 AM

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📎 DOOM_2__Hell_on_Earth_2019-09-18_18-33-38_Trim.mp4

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pew

foggy folio Sep 18, 2019, 9:17 AM

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I want my guy to have something like that but I like it to be in the form of a mace

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 7:00 PM

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is that a blender render

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 7:30 PM

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that rhymes

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 9:46 PM

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light prism Sep 18, 2019, 10:30 PM

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are those stairs

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 10:40 PM

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no

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it's a bunch of floors

deep briar Sep 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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@light prism maya

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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ah right

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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im trying to make a fire place

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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i did some guns not too long ago

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 10:46 PM

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here is me struggling to find a nice texture

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light prism Sep 18, 2019, 10:46 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534802812719333391/596251862278340618/Screenshot_Doom_20190704_201042.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534802812719333391/596661902642511882/gzdoom_2019-07-05_23-19-38-69.gif

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534802812719333391/593348641603977226/gzdoom_2019-06-26_19-53-00-64.gif

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Tubes on a weapon = energy weapon?

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Cool beans

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 10:49 PM

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do any of you guys have an idea for what texture I should use here

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light prism Sep 18, 2019, 10:49 PM

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ashwall everywhere

mystic chasm Sep 18, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Damn you vega

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Fireblu

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 11:18 PM

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@vague bear texturing depends on what theme and palette you're aiming for the map

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 11:18 PM

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true

deep briar Sep 18, 2019, 11:21 PM

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@light prism so those are sprites?

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 11:22 PM

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nop~

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exported .md3's from blender

deep briar Sep 18, 2019, 11:31 PM

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aaa

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yeah mine are sprites.

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I tried handpainting

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but it was taking too much time... especially with only a mouse

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 11:32 PM

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i do handpainting all the time now

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for sprite renders

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https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/4tMWwCMpUtbBwLlEVQpXcmWn-3Ifza4iRPx3ozK4kmM/https/cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/530481274784317470/621640139990368266/sprite.png?width=198&height=198

deep briar Sep 18, 2019, 11:35 PM

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nice!

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this was my hand painted version

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 11:37 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312818425313361921/617181801248718860/sprite.png

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 11:40 PM

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20190918_193946.png

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 11:40 PM

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i see, i guess you used some sort of generation for the orb thing

vague bear Sep 18, 2019, 11:40 PM

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yes there are missing textures

deep briar Sep 18, 2019, 11:40 PM

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just a scrolling UV texture

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 11:45 PM

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i remember doing similar on some reaaaally old guns i made when i first started modding

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6_GtEHcvyU

YouTube

TheMisterCat

ceilingcat.avi

Me attempting to battle the evil demonic forces of Ceiling Cat http://www.mediafire.com/?fum5qmnmjli

▶ Play video

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that orb just uses a voronoi pattern that has its scale shifted over frames

deep briar Sep 18, 2019, 11:46 PM

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That’s pretty epic actually

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The boss

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Lol

light prism Sep 18, 2019, 11:50 PM

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📎 catshrug.jpg

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ceiling cat was an old meme even by the time i made that like 10 years ago

deep briar Sep 18, 2019, 11:51 PM

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lmao

haughty flower Sep 18, 2019, 11:51 PM

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first time I saw it was as a L4D mod

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that replaced the moon with it

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Doom cat ceilin

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I need to use blender but it only makes smoothies for me

mystic chasm Sep 19, 2019, 12:00 AM

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2010

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240p

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👍

haughty flower Sep 19, 2019, 12:00 AM

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🥁

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Skulltag

light prism Sep 19, 2019, 12:56 AM

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deal with it

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or watch it in 144p

light prism Sep 19, 2019, 7:38 AM

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📎 gzdoom_2019-09-19_19-36-57-15.gif

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📎 gzdoom_2019-09-19_19-43-35-36.gif

dry ore Sep 19, 2019, 7:45 AM

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awww

vague bear Sep 19, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Holy

haughty flower Sep 19, 2019, 3:55 PM

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You are not doing this undertale doom project alone, are you?

light prism Sep 19, 2019, 6:52 PM

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yes

mystic chasm Sep 20, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Under~~tale~~world

light prism Sep 20, 2019, 12:52 AM

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yes

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ultima underworld for the win

foggy folio Sep 20, 2019, 3:06 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/d84e4d88a85b16ad5b49bee467be49f1/tenor.gif

rugged hinge Sep 20, 2019, 7:50 AM

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what is the best editor for doom3 ?

hazy lantern Sep 20, 2019, 7:50 AM

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The integrated one.

rugged hinge Sep 20, 2019, 9:53 AM

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what is no object file while compiling bfg edition ?

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 8:46 AM

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dudes

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could anyone help me with creating a simple doom script and saving it as wad

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i made an acs script then what should i do with it

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all the tutorials i could find are for level editing

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i want to make 1 for inceasing maximum health and ammo actually

haughty flower Sep 22, 2019, 9:52 AM

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@signal iron the script should be a lump inside the wad

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 9:53 AM

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how do i do that with doom builder?

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any specific tutorial to do it

haughty flower Sep 22, 2019, 10:04 AM

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use Slade 3 @signal iron

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 10:05 AM

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ohh i need slade then

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thx

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Ok, so I should use doom.wad?

haughty flower Sep 22, 2019, 2:09 PM

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for what exactly?

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Ok I find it too hard to compile wad script

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I'll try using decorate script

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Can I change the maximum amount of health and ammo with it

haughty flower Sep 22, 2019, 3:17 PM

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yes

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Ive changed inventory.maxamount with slade

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But it seems to affect nothing

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Should I compile it?

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And how

mystic chasm Sep 22, 2019, 3:29 PM

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DECORATE and ZScript aren't compiled langauges

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only ACS is

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Hmm it's weird then

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Should I do anything after editing the actor txt files

mystic chasm Sep 22, 2019, 3:35 PM

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I don't know what you're doing but it doesn't sound correct

Are you modifying existing files in zdoom.pk3?

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Yes

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With slade

mystic chasm Sep 22, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Yeaaah, don't do that

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Why?

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Uh I accidentally did

mystic chasm Sep 22, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Zdoom.pk3 contains all the base definitions for objects that zdoom uses, when you change it in there it effects every game you load up with zdoom

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 3:38 PM

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Yeah it's fine

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Forgot to make a backup

mystic chasm Sep 22, 2019, 3:38 PM

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If you're making a mod you need to write your own DECORATE definitions that overwrite the originals

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 3:38 PM

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So I can't edit the originals?

mystic chasm Sep 22, 2019, 3:44 PM

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you shouldn't

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 3:44 PM

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But it's supposed to work right

mystic chasm Sep 22, 2019, 3:46 PM

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the topic is vastly too large to cover if you've never scripted before

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look for some tutorials and read the wiki
https://zdoom.org/wiki/DECORATE

DECORATE

dry ore Sep 22, 2019, 3:47 PM

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uh.. ok then

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mystic chasm Sep 22, 2019, 3:47 PM

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specifically there is this section
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Creating_new_player_classes

Creating new player classes

dry ore Sep 22, 2019, 3:47 PM

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how does this even happen

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Yah I'm reading

dry ore Sep 22, 2019, 3:48 PM

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how do i fix this

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i legit don't know

mystic chasm Sep 22, 2019, 3:49 PM

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its just a regular sector?

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check your linedefs, make sure the sector numbers are the same for every one

signal iron Sep 22, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Hey I used idfa and it worked

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Thankes

dry ore Sep 22, 2019, 3:50 PM

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i just hit undo a bunch of times

haughty flower Sep 22, 2019, 4:10 PM

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select it and press delete @dry ore

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think that must be it

dry ore Sep 22, 2019, 4:29 PM

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i made a retro computer

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all base textures

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mystic chasm Sep 22, 2019, 4:37 PM

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thats amazingly good work on the mouse actually

dry ore Sep 22, 2019, 5:00 PM

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this is the floor texture i used

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it fit perfectly

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i actually split it into two separate textures

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this being the lower part

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