#classic-doom-maps-mods | DOOM | Page 85

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 1:46 AM

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like you could do

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Script 1 (void) { Door_CloseWaitOpen(1, 16, 240); Delay(1024); }

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then change the line action to run that script instead of directly running door_closewaitopen

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using ACS_Execute

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it won't interrupt the existing script while it is delaying

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 1:48 AM

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Line action of the switch?

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Face desk I'm fuckin sorry

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For askin these dumb questions

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 1:51 AM

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the line action you assigned to the switch line should have been Door_CloseWaitOpen

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you would replace that with ACS_Execute (line action #80)

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if you want it to run a script like above

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 1:51 AM

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I've been using the switch to run a script to close two doors.

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Using DoorCloseWaitOpen

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 1:52 AM

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do what you like

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Well that delay part works.

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Is there a command that stops the script from executing?

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Or do I have to make a seperate new script.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 1:55 AM

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what

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why

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 1:55 AM

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Invasion gamemode shit, don't want the switch to be turned on when the countdown is goin on.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 1:56 AM

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if(GetInvasionState() == IS_COUNTDOWN) Terminate;

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 1:57 AM

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Oh, terminate.

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Fuck me.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 1:57 AM

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if you are using zandronum i guess

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wont work on custom scripted invasion modes

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 1:57 AM

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I'm usin Zandronum

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Wish they could get on the MP thing

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or GZDoom or some shit

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How do you use the HUDMSG_FADEINOUT times.

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or, the Fixed InTime, fixed outTime part.

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Is that in seperate parenthesis?

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I saw you typing, Rolpa.

flat storm Jul 11, 2018, 2:17 AM

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not sure if I'm onto something cool or not

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180710_213554.png

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 2:18 AM

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I'm getting a very old FPS vibe.

flat storm Jul 11, 2018, 2:18 AM

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180710_213610.png

shadow bone Jul 11, 2018, 2:18 AM

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Looks pretty cool to me

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 2:18 AM

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^

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Very Vectory

flat storm Jul 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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@vocal crypt I thought what an FPS would look like if an original IBM PC had just a little more processing power

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Wew.

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Nice artstyle/aesthetic.

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Vectors

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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And original tbh.

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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More vectors

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All the vectors

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 2:20 AM

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Oh, but uh.

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Don't have stairs

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or elevation.

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Just to keep it feeling like a very old FPS.

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 2:20 AM

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But really line art like that isn't super common, especially with shooters

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 2:20 AM

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Remember, Wolf 3D didn't have elevation.

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 2:20 AM

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Wolf 3d also only had 90 degree angles

flat storm Jul 11, 2018, 2:21 AM

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yes, that's the idea

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 2:21 AM

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Good luck

flat storm Jul 11, 2018, 2:21 AM

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though Pathways Into Darkness was a big influence too

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 2:22 AM

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Can anyone help me with the HudMessage tho

flat storm Jul 11, 2018, 2:24 AM

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@silent totem thanks, I'll need it

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 2:24 AM

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nice @flat storm

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i was working on something with flat colors and lots of black and white too

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https://i.imgur.com/p9cI0O0.gif

Imgur

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@vocal crypt whats the issue with hudmessage

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 2:26 AM

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Tryin to figure out if the fixed Times need seperate parenthesis or not for HUDMSG_FADEINOUT

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 2:27 AM

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uhhh no

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what gives you that idea?

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 2:29 AM

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I don't know, organization stuff.

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But apparently it isn't.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 2:29 AM

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parenthesis in acs are either for function arguments or for math

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 2:35 AM

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HudMessage(s:"The doors are ready for use."; HUDMSG_FADEINOUT, 0, CR_RED, 5.0, 5.0, 5, 2, 2);
Do I have this right?

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Sorry caps

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 3:48 AM

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I think I'm getting the hang of this

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 3:53 AM

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hmm?

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 3:53 AM

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looks correctish

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i think all the values are floats though

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Nothing pretty, but I got 3d floors working

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180710_205224.png

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 3:54 AM

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not sure, i forget how regular ol' acs works

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nice jerb on 3d floors, it can be confusing with the inverted heights thing

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and the whole control/dummy sector

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but those are useful for other transfer effects too

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like #50, transfer brightness

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you can use it to make neat light or color gradients

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 4:00 AM

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Yeah. where the ceiling of the dummy is the floor of the platform? I don't know about that other stuff

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 4:06 AM

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thats a perspective problem really

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easier to think in terms of 'top' and 'bottom' than 'ceiling' and 'floor'

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 4:07 AM

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Yeah, I got it, just think about it as negative space

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 4:07 AM

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try out a brightness transfer

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action #50, use it like you use sector_set3dfloor

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with an external control sector

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 4:08 AM

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What map chu makin anyway, Arcto

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Rn? Just random test stuff

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I have ideas but they're too far fetched for my current skill level

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 4:36 AM

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Over ambitious.

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I have that problem.

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Especially since I tried making a Counter Strike mod for Doom lol.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 AM

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counterstrike wouldnt be too hard

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i mean there are already teams for some gamemodes

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i think it would be more an issue of balancing guns and shit

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and making the game feel more counterstrikey

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ie slowing doomguy to a crawl

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Doomguy runs as fast as a rocket powered cheetah on speed

prisma saddle Jul 11, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Any idea how I'd do some sort of simplified PREY looking glass effect with portals and such?

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 5:24 AM

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its been a while, if you mean the original prey

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what exactly do you mean?

prisma saddle Jul 11, 2018, 5:24 AM

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2017 PREY.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 5:24 AM

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just a reflective surface?

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never played it

prisma saddle Jul 11, 2018, 5:24 AM

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Oh.

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Basically what I want is a portal that can be destroyed and replaced with a broken glass texture.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 AM

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do that then

prisma saddle Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Alrighty.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 5:25 AM

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make a portal line with a line in front of it that activates a script to change the portal line's reference to 0 and changes the texture to broken glass

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using projectile hits/crosses activation

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why is it a portal line though?

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cos breaking a window usually doesnt result in the inside of the building ceasing to exist

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 AM

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I don't know how to use portals tho

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That might be good to learn

prisma saddle Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Well, it's the effect used in PREY 2017 for the looking glass things.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 5:26 AM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Line_SetPortal

Line SetPortal

prisma saddle Jul 11, 2018, 6:11 AM

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Thanks for the advice Mistercat, got it working in a fairly rough manner.

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:16 AM

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For some reason, my hudmessage thing is not showing up.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:17 AM

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did you do SetHudSize and SetFont beforehand?

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:17 AM

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...Fuck.

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{
if(GetInvasionState() == IS_FIRSTCOUNTDOWN) Terminate;
if(GetInvasionState() == IS_COUNTDOWN) Terminate;
    Door_CloseWaitOpen(1,16,240,0);
    Door_CloseWaitOpen(2,16,240,0);
    Delay(1024);
    SetHudSize(1920,1080,TRUE);
    SetFont ("BIGFONT");
    HudMessage(s:"The doors are ready for use.";
    HUDMSG_FADEINOUT, 1, CR_RED, 1.5, 0.5, 5, 3, 3);```
Is the message being screwed up or something?

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Or commands?

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:23 AM

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uhh for x and y just try 960, 540 to see if it appears mid-screen

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rather, 960.0, 540.0

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the fractional part does alignment

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like 960.1 would treat 960x as the left justification point for the message

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:29 AM

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Wait, I see it.

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It's just a blink and you miss it moment.

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Though, it seems to be starting a bit before the doors actually open.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:29 AM

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oh right

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set the holdtime to 0

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for it to stay indefinitely

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:30 AM

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I don't want it to be permanent tho.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:30 AM

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oh

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try adding .0 to all of the time values

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like 5.0 3.0

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:31 AM

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.0 seems to wokr

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:33 AM

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yeah, its in seconds, which is a fixed point value, when you pass it a regular ol int it treats it like a tiiiiiny little fractional number

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thats why it was flickering briefly

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:33 AM

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I still don't like it appearing before the doors actually open.

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Am I going to have to use the while thing?

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Or the if thing.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:34 AM

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oh

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you can use TagWait

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btw both those closewaitopens are identical - you probably dont need 2 tags, just tag both doors with 1

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then do TagWait(1) where you want it to wait for the doors

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:36 AM

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Well that works, so it seems I'll need to increase the delay number.

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...From 1024 tics.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:38 AM

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you can also just use an outirght Delay()

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:38 AM

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I...Am using that.

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In the script.

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I'm increasing it from 1024 tics.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:39 AM

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oh i didnt even notice

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did you read what i said about TagWait?

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Yeah.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:39 AM

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it delays indefinitely until the tagged sector chosen has stopped moving

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:39 AM

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...I might placed it in the wrong spot tho.

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I placed it after the dealy.

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Fuck me...

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:39 AM

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oh

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it can replace the delay entirely

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or be before it

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Aw yis, putting it before the delay got me my desired result.

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 6:58 AM

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tf was dat TMC.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 6:59 AM

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wrong channel lulz

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 7:43 AM

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This invasion map feels like it's missin something, besides you know, places to go to after a # of waves.

📎 Screenshot_86.png

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 7:54 AM

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height

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 9:57 AM

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📎 gzdoom_2018-07-11_21-52-54-70.gif

prisma saddle Jul 11, 2018, 10:01 AM

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Oooo, snazzy.

somber stream Jul 11, 2018, 10:02 AM

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Woooah, that looks so cool! 😮

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 10:05 AM

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i love how bloom is additive to overbright color values

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like a color.r value of 8.0 will bloom like fuck whereas 1.0 will just fullbright bloom

topaz tendon Jul 11, 2018, 10:07 AM

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I don't speak your language but it makes me horny anyways

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but that is a pretty damn cool effect my dude

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 10:07 AM

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if you set a pixels color value over 1.0 it will bloom more than is possible otherwise

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hence the glowing and flickering

somber stream Jul 11, 2018, 10:08 AM

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Very atmospheric, I love it. 😄

topaz tendon Jul 11, 2018, 10:09 AM

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what exactly is the theme of this highly graphically intricate doom mod you're putting together

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 10:09 AM

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fire gun, make dead things

somber stream Jul 11, 2018, 10:10 AM

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Perfect. doomguy_god

topaz tendon Jul 11, 2018, 10:10 AM

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god damnit

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played us like a damn fiddle

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 10:15 AM

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there will be no fiddle playing in this mod

topaz tendon Jul 11, 2018, 10:17 AM

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knowing you there'll definitely be a flute though

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 10:18 AM

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📎 mega-lol-vania.ogg

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 10:54 AM

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📎 gzdoom_2018-07-11_22-51-23-93.gif

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bright variant

topaz tendon Jul 11, 2018, 11:00 AM

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really cool

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is that just gifs being gifs or is that an fps drop

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wait it looks smooth when I don't expand it

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mobile discord is a strange thing

somber stream Jul 11, 2018, 11:05 AM

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Looks fab!

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 11:15 AM

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the gif does have its frames cut a bit

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but i assure you it is running 60fps

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Damn that looks nice

vocal crypt Jul 11, 2018, 5:22 PM

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^

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You sure that's a Doom mod.

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:>

rugged shore Jul 11, 2018, 6:22 PM

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i'm not a modder but i have a question,

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how can i change vanilla doomguy pain sounds and make it an addon wad

shadow bone Jul 11, 2018, 6:31 PM

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Put your new sounds in a .wad file (or .pk3 if you're making a mod for GZDoom) and name the sounds the same as the vanilla doom pain sounds.

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Loading your mod will supercede the vanilla sounds with your new ones if they have the same name

rugged shore Jul 11, 2018, 6:31 PM

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ah

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wait can they be mp3 and wav files?

shadow bone Jul 11, 2018, 6:32 PM

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If you're intending the mod to be used with GZDoom, yes, that's fine

rugged shore Jul 11, 2018, 6:32 PM

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alright

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how can i create a .pk3?

shadow bone Jul 11, 2018, 6:32 PM

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A PK3 is just a zip file, really

rugged shore Jul 11, 2018, 6:32 PM

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ah

shadow bone Jul 11, 2018, 6:32 PM

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So zip your files, and rename it to .pk3

rugged shore Jul 11, 2018, 6:32 PM

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so i can create it with 7zip?

shadow bone Jul 11, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Yep

rugged shore Jul 11, 2018, 6:32 PM

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alright

shadow bone Jul 11, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Hang on

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Using_ZIPs_as_WAD_replacement

Using ZIPs as WAD replacement

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Check that page

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Put your sounds in a sounds folder in the pk3/zip

rugged shore Jul 11, 2018, 6:34 PM

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what are the names of doomguy pain sounds?

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always hard to remember them tbh

shadow bone Jul 11, 2018, 6:34 PM

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you can either open the IWAD in Slade and look at the sounds there, or you can look at the SNDINFO lump in GZDoom.pk3, which defines the sound names as well

rugged shore Jul 11, 2018, 6:35 PM

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alright

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thanks!

shadow bone Jul 11, 2018, 6:35 PM

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No problem 😉

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Good luck

next lagoon Jul 11, 2018, 7:01 PM

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You can literally open pk3s in winrar or 7zip

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lol

shadow bone Jul 11, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Yeah, I said that

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 7:09 PM

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you can figuratively open pk3's with a canopener

warped radish Jul 11, 2018, 7:37 PM

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doom2 modders. would you think that the majority of effects would not be splashable, therefore your baseeffect (for inheritice) would have +DONTSPLASH ?

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 7:38 PM

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why not have both

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actor BaseEffect {} actor BaseSplash{}

warped radish Jul 11, 2018, 7:41 PM

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good point. i actually have done that for other things, but never thought of doing it for splash.

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i recently decided to add +FORCEXYBILLBOARD to the default BaseEffect.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 7:42 PM

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you could always have FlatEffects too

warped radish Jul 11, 2018, 7:43 PM

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True. I guess this all goes back to following a pattern of having Base{Type}Effect parent actors. e.g. BaseFlatEffect or whatever category of effects you're doing, e.g. BasePuddleEffect.

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Tell me. Do you include +NOINTERACTION for your BaseParticleEffect ? And if so, is there even a need for +NOBLOCKMAP ? And I'm curious if you've ever used +NOCLIP in any of your BaseEffect actors. Like BaseSmokeEffect for example.

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at this point, I guess I'm curious what flags you use in your root BaseEffect actor. or what flags is recommended. I've been through this many times, and now have reached a point where I want to hear from someone else on the topic.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 7:54 PM

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I have used +NOINTERACTION yes

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but for stuff that requires bouncing/arcs then I use +NOCLIP instead

warped radish Jul 11, 2018, 7:56 PM

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I see, thanks. One last question, have you ever used Zandronum flags +CLIENTSIDEONLY and +NONETID ? I have, and they worked for a while, but then once I experienced an issue where the game wouldn't spawn the actors. I can't remember if it was +CLIENTSIDEONLY or +NONETID causing it.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 7:57 PM

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+CLIENTSIDEONLY on all non-vital effects definitely

warped radish Jul 11, 2018, 7:58 PM

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And I can't seem to understand the difference between using SXF_CLIENTSIDE flag in A_SpawnItemEx or +CLIENTSIDEONLY. If the actor being spawned already has +CLIENTSIDEONLY, then I would assume SXF_CLIENTSIDE flag is not needed.

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I guess the only benefit to using SXF_CLIENTSIDE flag is when spawning an actor that doesn't have +CLIENTSIDEONLY and you want it to at that moment of spawning, for whatever reason.

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 8:03 PM

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exactly

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however if you have something spawning a bunch of clientside actors it would be better if the spawner itself was clientside

warped radish Jul 11, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Ah, yeah.

flat storm Jul 11, 2018, 9:14 PM

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I can't decide if the perspective on this is messed up or not

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180711_171240.png

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 9:27 PM

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I mean you're pointing it upwards

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But Doom weapons weren't ever at a realistic perspective

topaz tendon Jul 11, 2018, 9:28 PM

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that does look like you're just aiming at the ceiling

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Yeah

flat storm Jul 11, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Hmm

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Wonder if lowering the offset would help

warped radish Jul 11, 2018, 9:40 PM

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and taper it so it becomes wider at the bottom.

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rought example, scaled Y by 25%, and skewed left and right sides outward by 15%

📎 unknown.png

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@flat storm

silent totem Jul 11, 2018, 9:48 PM

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Looks better already

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Might wanna round out the barrel more now

flat storm Jul 11, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Oof. That's way better.

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Yea, I think I'll do something like that

light prism Jul 11, 2018, 10:28 PM

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neat

flat storm Jul 11, 2018, 11:02 PM

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squished the barrel down a bit

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180711_185929.png

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:29 AM

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you should have like

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just one color

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to accentuate things

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:30 AM

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Red

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:30 AM

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like red, like sin city

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:30 AM

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^

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:30 AM

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doesnt have to be though

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depends on your theme

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:30 AM

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Yeah of course

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:30 AM

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here's a fun idea.

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hows about asteroids in doom?

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like the game.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:31 AM

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He's going for those old vector graphics

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But in gameplay?

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:33 AM

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i get that like 90 percent of all my ideas are ass

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:33 AM

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i already made something like asteroids

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ages ago

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rather, a topdown space shootery thing

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:33 AM

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no i'm saying that what would happen if you put it in doom?

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well

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it's obvious what would happen

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but what would it look like or play like?

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:34 AM

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that is literally what i just said I did

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you fucking gumbo

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 12:34 AM

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gumbo as an insult

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I like it.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:34 AM

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you queef magnate

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:34 AM

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no you said you made a top down shooty thingy

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 12:34 AM

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queef magnate

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:34 AM

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i'm saying put it in first person.

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 12:34 AM

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that's pretty good

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:35 AM

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oh in first person

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that would be fuckin awful

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if it was vector graphics

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:35 AM

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a mod for doom, whether it looks like the original game or asteroids with all new enemies that look like asteroids or just keep the same enemies and what-not

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:35 AM

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otherwise doom is already a first person asteroids clone

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:36 AM

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whether you can make it in acs or decorate.

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it doesn't matter.

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 12:36 AM

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you kill the spider mastermind and it splits into multiple smaller spider masterminds

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:36 AM

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EXACTLY.

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THANK YOU

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i didn't know how to word it.

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 12:36 AM

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nooo.

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Hitscan nightmare.

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 12:36 AM

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that sounds like a recipe for a clusterfuck

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:36 AM

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of course they don't shoot back.

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but that would be on another difficulty level.

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 12:37 AM

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It's a PITA dealing with the Mastermind's hitscan.

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 12:37 AM

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what if there was no limit to how small things got, they just kept splitting into tinier and tinier enemies

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:37 AM

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to a point where you can't see them at all.

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just blindly shooting at nothing.

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 12:37 AM

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eventually you have billions of enemies that aren't even a fraction of a pixel

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:37 AM

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my god.

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no

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 12:37 AM

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So, unfair shit.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:38 AM

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the smaller they got, the damage goes with them.

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by 1 pixel they do literally .1 damage.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:38 AM

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that wouldnt be too hard

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:38 AM

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1 pixel they literally do 1 damage.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:38 AM

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just yeah, annoying

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:38 AM

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mhm.

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it's not about the gameplay experience itself

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it's about the fact that we can do it.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:39 AM

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you can do anything with doom

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also at zombocom

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:40 AM

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asteroids that shoot back.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:40 AM

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I mean you can do this shit in GZ Doom

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180711_170605.png

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180711_170727.png

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I

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180711_171034.png

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I'm, I'm stunned

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:40 AM

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chant it with me now

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G-Z-DOOM

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G-Z-DOOM

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G-Z-DOOM

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:41 AM

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📎 pac.pk3

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you can do this

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:41 AM

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i'm not sure i wanna click on it.

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but i'm going to.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:42 AM

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Should I be agraid

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*afraid

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HOLY

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SHIT

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:43 AM

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that was pretty good actually.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:43 AM

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that was my first foray into making something completely non-doom in doom

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:44 AM

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you made that?

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gimme your twitter if you post updates on it cause i wanna try more.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:45 AM

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How the hell

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:45 AM

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pff i havent touched it since i made it

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i do have the source code though

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:45 AM

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no i don't wanna make it.

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wait

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i'mma stfu right there and then.

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 12:45 AM

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reminds me of the donkey kong country remake

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in gzdoom

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:46 AM

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How do people make such good looking stuff in GZDOOM

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:46 AM

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three letters

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A-C-S

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 12:46 AM

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sacrifices to the elder gods

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:46 AM

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and decorate.

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 12:46 AM

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they accept socks

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:47 AM

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I mean my end goal is total conversion stuff

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:47 AM

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actually 'good looking' has nothing to do with ACS really

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you can make something look good without any modding changes if you have the right assets

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:47 AM

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like photoshop and skill

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:47 AM

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or if youre a good mapper or whatever

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:48 AM

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i couldn't develop a map if you gave me a book on it.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:48 AM

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I'm learning

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It's all default Doom 2 assets though

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:48 AM

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i can do it, it just never looks good.

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like, never.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:48 AM

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Also, a PK3 is literally a ZIP

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Interesting

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 12:49 AM

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ye

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:49 AM

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yep

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so is a pk7

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:49 AM

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That's a .7z, right?

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:49 AM

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all zdoom/ports can run uncompressed folders too

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like gzdoom -file mygame\pk3\

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as long as the file structure is the same

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:52 AM

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I have ideas for weapons, gonna figure that out

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:54 AM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Creating_new_weapons

Creating new weapons

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 12:54 AM

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hardest part for me is the sprites

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if I were to make a new weapon

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:54 AM

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thats why i do models

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easy to render to sprites, easier to manipulate

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:54 AM

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Yeah

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But, I like the whole sprite look

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:54 AM

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sure, but you can imitate that with renders

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by say, removing antialiasing

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:55 AM

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How close does that look?

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:55 AM

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📎 TROLA1.gif

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https://i.imgur.com/3uxPl4Y.gif

Imgur

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wow discord refuses to play that one

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Those are models?

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:56 AM

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just click it

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:56 AM

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I can click it an see

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Although that's nice I'll probably try to stick to sprites

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 12:58 AM

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those are sprites

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rendered from models

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:58 AM

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I meant drawn

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 12:59 AM

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Sad, Zandronum can't do fade apparently or something.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 12:59 AM

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?

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:00 AM

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what

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fade what, in what sense

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:00 AM

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Lighting wise.

📎 Screenshot_88.png

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It shows this in GZDoom Builder.

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But no fade in Zandronum

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Ah

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:01 AM

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I'd show a pic, but StartButton+Prtscrn isn't showing it properly.

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In Zandronum

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:01 AM

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oh you mean fog?

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rather, the 'fade' parameter for a sector in UDMF mode

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:02 AM

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I'm using the fade thing under the colours tab.

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But I guess

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:02 AM

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have you checked your zandro display settings?

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that kind of fade/fog originates from hexen so i highly doubt it is missing

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:03 AM

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where would it be in display settings

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nvm

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Found fog

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it shows it now

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Also, hopin the sector damaging dissuades playas from goin out.

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Because inconsistent stuff.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:06 AM

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just have it play vuvuzela sounds continuous looped until you return to the play area

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:06 AM

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lolno.

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I'm contemplating on using block players for a linedef

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IDK why.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 1:11 AM

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What

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:11 AM

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It's so playas don't go outside.

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Damage only does so much

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even if it's -20 a second.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 1:12 AM

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Then why let them go outside?

topaz tendon Jul 12, 2018, 1:16 AM

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repetitive vuvuzela actually sounds like a great boundary deterrent for map design

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:16 AM

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Not sure it'd fit the tone tho.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 1:16 AM

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Just make it give you seizures when you exit

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:36 AM

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you already give me seizures

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:37 AM

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Script 15 OPEN { while ((GetInvasionWave() != 3) ||(GetInvasionState ( ) != IS_COUNTDOWN)) Door_Open(4,64); }
I'm wanting the sector to open like a door when wave 3 comes.

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But it opens when the map starts.

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Or is it space sensitive.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:38 AM

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i think you want AND rather than OR

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while ((GetInvasionWave() != 3) && (GetInvasionState() != IS_COUNTDOWN))

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actually the whole thing is phrased kinda bad

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:39 AM

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Zdoom wiki example modified.

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;_;

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:40 AM

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while wave IS NOT 3 AND state IS NOT countdown

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this will still activate on map start

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:41 AM

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Aand it's now giving me a syntax error in expression.

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For some reason.

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while ((GetInvasionWave() = 3) && (GetInvasionState ( ) = IS_COUNTDOWN))

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Also, somehow the ! works for the round noise.

warped radish Jul 12, 2018, 1:42 AM

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while((GetInvasionWave() != 1) || (GetInvasionState() != IS_WAVECOMPLETE)) { delay(1); /* Wave 1 running. / } / Wave finished. Put code here to open door. Hurry, you only have a few seconds. / while((GetInvasionWave() != 2) || (GetInvasionState() != IS_WAVECOMPLETE)) { delay(1); / Wave 2 running. */ }

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:43 AM

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how about while(GetInvasionWave() < 3) Delay(1); while(GetInvasionState() != IS_COUNTDOWN) Delay(1); Door_Open(4, 64);

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:43 AM

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It's still bitching about Line 23.

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while ((GetInvasionWave() < 3) Delay (1);

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hold up.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:44 AM

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too many brackets you jack of all trades

warped radish Jul 12, 2018, 1:44 AM

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📎 unknown.png

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:44 AM

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should be while (GetInvasionWave() < 3) Delay(1);

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you had an extra bracket

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:45 AM

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well it's complaining about 24 having too few brackets.

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While (GetInvasionState ( ) ! = IS_COUNTDOWN)

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:45 AM

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whats with the spaces

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they dont affect anything but its ugly

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:46 AM

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I don't know.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:46 AM

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it goes 'functionName(Arguments)'

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actually ! = is probably breaking

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its !=

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aka 'not equals'

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:47 AM

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Yeah, that might be it.

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Since it's not bitching.

warped radish Jul 12, 2018, 1:48 AM

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https://hastebin.com/osagebuteh.scala

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:48 AM

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Aand, still not workin.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 1:50 AM

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read arkores thing

warped radish Jul 12, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Do it the way I posted. That's how Zandronum says to do it.

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Ah.

warped radish Jul 12, 2018, 1:54 AM

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@vocal crypt You might want to put a delay before DoorOpen, to give your game a better feel. Like, Delay(5 * 35); because when a wave ends, the game announcer will say stuff, and it takes a few seconds before the countdown to next wave begins. at that point you might like the door to open, instead of the door opening immediately after the previous wave ended.

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Hasn't stuff like Delta Invasion had doors open after a previous wave tho.

warped radish Jul 12, 2018, 1:55 AM

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Delay(5*35); // Delay 5 seconds.
Door_Open(???, 24);

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Yes, I'm just saying you might want a delay right before your Door_Open().

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Because players are first distracted by the on-screen messaging from the wave being finished. So, give it a breather for that messaging to finish, then open the door and players are more likely to notice the door opening. You know what I mean?

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 1:56 AM

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I get it.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 2:26 AM

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hmmm now i need to make a similarly awesome water shader

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 2:26 AM

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Steal BD's shader.

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kappa

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 2:27 AM

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no thanks

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more fun learning how it works and making one myself

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 2:36 AM

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Isn't it just a 3D model that spawns and scales outwards until it disappears?

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Well, the BD one.

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 2:46 AM

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Fuq, I think I's missin something.

📎 Screenshot_90.png

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I need moar detail maybe.

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Invasion gamemode btw.

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 2:49 AM

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I don't think detail is the issue here, it just feels flat at the core of it.

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Elaborate

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Does it feel empty?

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No.

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Go away. @haughty flower if you're trolling.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:52 AM

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just an idea but if the blood and the floor are on the same level, make it seep into the same area?

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Oh.

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Sorry.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:53 AM

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also fugg outta here bech

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 2:53 AM

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The section just doesn't have a lot of verticality to support the texture changes.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:53 AM

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maybe add a pillar.

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 2:53 AM

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Especially with the sky.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:53 AM

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with tekwall4 on it.

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 2:53 AM

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There should be a lip separating the sky from the ceiling.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:54 AM

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lift the sky up a tad maybe.

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 2:54 AM

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A lip?

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:54 AM

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(that's what i said)

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 2:54 AM

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Pretty much. the sky should be elevated more to separate from the ceiling.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:54 AM

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yeah

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 2:54 AM

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Looks a bit jarring otherwise.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:55 AM

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kinda bump it up 8 pixels.

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 2:55 AM

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📎 Screenshot_92.png

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Better?

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:55 AM

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ye

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 2:55 AM

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Yup.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:55 AM

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that looks good.

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 2:55 AM

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Simple trick to making a map look less flat without over detailing.

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Might have overdetailed it...

📎 Screenshot_93.png

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:56 AM

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it's kinda raping my mind.

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 2:57 AM

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A little bit, constantly using sectors to detail can get a bit unmanageable.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:57 AM

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is this the part where i troll a little?

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 2:58 AM

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So remove that

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and just have it look like it's "infecting" the "courtyard"?

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 2:58 AM

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sure

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 3:00 AM

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Good map visual design tends to be more about variance in height and good texture work, if you don't have good variance in height your good texture work won't matter and vice versa

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 3:02 AM

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How dis

📎 Screenshot_95.png

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 3:02 AM

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Looks better.

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 3:02 AM

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I'm wanting to make it look like the "infected" parts are dripping blood, and filling it up.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 3:03 AM

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you want to make it an illusion or you want it actually filling up?

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Illusion

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 3:04 AM

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oh i've done this before.

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well

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kinda

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i've only had the ceiling drip blood and make it a middle texture that you can walk through.

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that's my best solution here.

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and then i took a closer look and realized i was dumb

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 3:05 AM

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IDK, is what I have rn giving the illusion of that @prisma saddle, or does it look like it's just a hard blood floor.

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 3:05 AM

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oh i have an idea.

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you make a few more sectors on the blood and use shift to pull them up less than 8 pixels

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you make only some parts of the infected walls have blood dripping down it.

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idk if it's what you wanted but for right now but it's my best solution.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 4:19 AM

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If I make custom weapons, do you think they should follow the standard fps weapons and order?

i.e. Melee thing, somewhat useless thing, shotgun thing, fast thing, projectile things, uberweapon?

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 4:20 AM

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most games do, why break tradition

prisma saddle Jul 12, 2018, 4:21 AM

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I mean, I guess Quake skipped the somewhat useless thing by giving you a shotgun straight off the bat.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 4:23 AM

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yeah except it is superseded by ssg pretty quick

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 4:27 AM

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One idea I had was take that starter weapon and more or less replace it further in with a better version

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 4:35 AM

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So something like the shotgun and ssg in Doom?

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But with all slots

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?

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 4:36 AM

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More like just the pistol

vocal crypt Jul 12, 2018, 4:37 AM

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An Uzi.

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Like the Island.

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Except without it feeling like a tech demo.

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 4:56 AM

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Hey, is it possible to get the strife damage indicator in Doom?

haughty flower Jul 12, 2018, 5:26 AM

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how beautifully unfitting.

📎 Base_Profile_Screenshot_2018.07.12_-_00.26.06.48.png

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 5:35 AM

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@silent totem - probably

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i mean zdoom supports strife so most likely

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 5:36 AM

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Yeah that'd make sense, I just don't know how.

Maybe I'll look at Strife's code, not sure I'd be able to find it

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 5:38 AM

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im not actually 100% sure of what youre after

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can you describe it

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like when and why it happens and from and to what

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then i can probably pinpoint the functions you need

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 5:39 AM

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It's this little red arrow that pops up and can show where you're getting hit from

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 5:39 AM

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oh ok

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sheez im not actually sure

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its not a decorate function, it might be hard coded into strife or the strifeplayer actor

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man these games are a mess of extremely specific functions

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A_TossArm

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shit like that

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 5:47 AM

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I mean this was made back in mostly the original Doom engine, so they might've had to do some black magic fuckery to make things work

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 5:47 AM

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well there are similar pointers in doom

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like there is the standard A_Chase and then there is a variant for the arachnotron that makes them play the metal stomp sound as they move

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etc etc

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each enemy had its own hardcoded attack function

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im just watching some strife footage and i dont see the arrow you mean

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damage just flashes red like doom

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 6:00 AM

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Hm, I could've sworn it was Strife

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Yeah

📎 Screenshot_20180711-230150-01.jpeg 📎 Screenshot_20180711-230154-01.jpeg

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Near the middle

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 6:04 AM

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oic

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can it point in all directoins?

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 6:06 AM

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Well it's locked to a circle area it looks like, so I think so

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Like it's on a circle track

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So anything in 360°

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 6:06 AM

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ic...

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i really dont recall this

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 6:25 AM

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Yeah

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When you said it wasn't I had to go watch a video to see

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 7:17 AM

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i didnt notice it in the video heh

unreal oyster Jul 12, 2018, 7:40 AM

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Are you sure this isn't a Strife VE feature

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 7:40 AM

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It might be?

unreal oyster Jul 12, 2018, 7:41 AM

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Because Zscript literally doesn't have the capability to draw something rotated right now

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There's a PR open for a triangle drawer that would fix this but it's gone quiet for some reason

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I wouldn't be surprised if this is hardcoded into VE

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But that also answers your question anyway, no, it's not possible

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Not yet

silent totem Jul 12, 2018, 7:44 AM

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Yeah it looks like a VE thing

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The video I found with it came out after VE, one without it came out before

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 8:00 AM

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you can use the sbarinfo mugshot to access left, center and right pain sprites

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and use those as indicators

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hijack that shit

hexed sky Jul 12, 2018, 11:33 AM

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@unreal oyster there wasn't a PR open for it, actually, but I just opened it now

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I honestly forgot to do so

unreal oyster Jul 12, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Oh heh

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 6:53 PM

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📎 gzdoom_2018-07-13_06-51-45-64.gif

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i have no idea if this looks good or bad

shadow bone Jul 12, 2018, 6:55 PM

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It looks interesting. Would look better without the .gif compression

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Any chance of using streamable / webm / mp4 instead?

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 6:56 PM

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uses realmedia

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its like a perlin noise wave with some contrast applied to the highlights

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i was initially trying to do water but it looks silly on water

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180713_065918.png

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too much turbulence for a flat texture

timber bridge Jul 12, 2018, 7:01 PM

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woter

warped radish Jul 12, 2018, 7:05 PM

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is there supposed to be more of a tiled pattern to that liquid? it looks like there's something in the middle, like a drowned object.

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i mean, it looks realistic. im just wondering if players will be distracted by that.

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the blue water looks to have more of a tiled pattern.

light prism Jul 12, 2018, 7:07 PM

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it is tiled

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the nukage has variation on its greens though

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i wanted to make it more liike there were solid chunks floating in it, or like a soup skin

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they are both variations on the same shader code

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the nukage has deeper octaves and contrasts on the hilights, and has an additional warp applied on top

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📎 mslime.png

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this is what the base texture looks like

warped radish Jul 12, 2018, 7:12 PM

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Ah, okay.

flat storm Jul 13, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Can zdoom do a strife style inventory bar in Doom 2?

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 2:51 AM

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how did strife do it?

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wasnt that the separate fullscreen inventory?

vocal crypt Jul 13, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Let's just do it the HDTF way.

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kappa

silent totem Jul 13, 2018, 3:09 AM

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No

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Let's not

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 3:17 AM

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let's do the dew

flat storm Jul 13, 2018, 3:17 AM

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HTDF?

vocal crypt Jul 13, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Hunt Down the Freeman

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The game that wants to be Opposing Force 2.

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But fails.

flat storm Jul 13, 2018, 3:18 AM

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oh shit, I heard about that

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didn't it steal like half it's assets from other mods?

vocal crypt Jul 13, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Rumoured to be.

topaz tendon Jul 13, 2018, 3:22 AM

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the only interest I paid to hdtf was the yahtzee review

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that explained that it's just generally poorly put together

silent totem Jul 13, 2018, 3:25 AM

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Yeah about @flat storm

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Yeah, it's pretty insane to think that it was a conscious decision, it almost feels like it just sort of spontaneously appeared when enough shit rubs together

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 3:30 AM

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too many chefs

topaz tendon Jul 13, 2018, 3:31 AM

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oh god

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the flashbacks

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it takes a lot to make a stew

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 10:30 AM

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📎 modeldef_writer.py

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bugfixed my modeldef generator python script

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made it more user friendly

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now you can just filebrowse to your model/skin files

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and it can auto generate a basic actor, either as SPRT A -1 or with a spawn state equal to the frame length

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and appends an #include to your existing decorate file

hexed sky Jul 13, 2018, 1:17 PM

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heh, modeldef generation

timber bridge Jul 13, 2018, 1:21 PM

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yos

hexed sky Jul 13, 2018, 1:38 PM

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it can be hell to do modeldef entries for stuff with hundreds of frames of animation

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we really do need an overhaul of how animation playback works

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 3:28 PM

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Is there a way to pack a wad with all the resources, custom textures and mods that were used to make it?

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:08 PM

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@hexed sky - yeah but how would you do that without either havig to completely change how states work or making a second state system that runs alongside the existing one

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@distant flower - yes

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:09 PM

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How tho

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:09 PM

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but you shouldnt really pack in other peoples mods

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and it becomes increasingly more complex to do so the more mods you have

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Yea but otherwise the map is completely incompatible with anything else, also the majority of custom resources come from skulltag_data pack and they don't come/work with GZDoom/ZDoom

unreal oyster Jul 13, 2018, 6:10 PM

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you should absolutely pack in a texture pack, beyond that yeah, just say you need that mod to run it

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texture packs are designed to be inserted into other mods

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anything else is theft

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:11 PM

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just say 'hey this needs skulltag data'

unreal oyster Jul 13, 2018, 6:11 PM

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yeah

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:11 PM

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the files arent hard to come across

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Is there a way to avoid getting 500 errors in the map editor, whenever I launch the game configuration with those packs tho

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:12 PM

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dont use them 😃

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could be that you're having conflicts between mods or that the mods are just badly made

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:14 PM

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The majority are GLDEFS warnings and DECORATE warnings from skulltag_actors pack

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:14 PM

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uhhhh

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load order then maybe?

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what kind of errors

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duplicate definitions?

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:15 PM

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IWAD(doom2.wad) -> skulltag_actors(required for skulltag_data) -> additional texture packs and at the end a mod

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the gldefs are all about the last mod and how decorate classes do not exist

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📎 unknown.png

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and the rest comes directly from skulltag

📎 unknown.png

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:16 PM

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yeah those are all skulltag_actors errors indeed

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:17 PM

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I dont really know why these errors appear if pretty much everything works

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:17 PM

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you might be missing a base resource in your game configuration

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like gzdoom.pk3

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or you have the load order for data/actors switched around

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:18 PM

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zandronum.pk3 completely crashes and does not launch the engine with it in the resources

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and i know for sure that actors have to be loaded before the rest of skulltags data

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:18 PM

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though 'unable to find class 'weapon'' is worrying

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:18 PM

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or else it doesnt work at all

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yea a bit

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:18 PM

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fi it cant find that class then a base resource is definitely missing or being loaded in the wrong order

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:19 PM

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I'm pretty sure it's because doom2 weapons are being not only modified by skulltag's data file but also by the later mod

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maybe

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this is why i wanted to pack the majority of this

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and just add the mod as a requirement

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:19 PM

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skulltag doesnt modify the base weapons though, only its own weapons

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:19 PM

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then I don't know why it cannot find the base resources

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:19 PM

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show your f2 screen

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in editor

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:20 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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lul

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:20 PM

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ok not useful

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show your game configurations screen for zandronum doom2 (udmf)

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:21 PM

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you won't be suprised

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📎 unknown.png

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but it's also unreadable

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:21 PM

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what the fuck is wrong with you

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those arent base resources

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:21 PM

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I have 5 hard drives

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:21 PM

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zandronum config should literally just be doom2.wad

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Yea I tend to just include everything into game configurations so I dont have to include it ever again

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:22 PM

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only the basest of resources belong to the game configuration

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well go through all of them and make sure none are being excluded at runtime or anything

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this is seeming more a case of 'youve made your bed now lie in it'

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:24 PM

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in order (from top to bottom): DOOM2.WAD, skulltag_actors.pk3, skulltag_data1.pk3, DFTextures.pk3 (only contains textures and flats, nothing else), NB_RECOL.WAD (I don't even remember where I got it from, but it only has textures ) and complex doom at the end

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I use textures from all these wads/pk3 in my map and all of them are working and appearing when testing

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so they cannot be excluded or anything like that

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I think

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:26 PM

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complex is a huge mod, i can see it generating errors when loaded with other shit, but im still worried by the lack of 'weapon' class

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 6:26 PM

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I don't really think that moving additional resources from game configurations, to the F2 screen (aka per map basis), would change anything, since i'm including the same stuff in the same exact order

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the full commandline used to launch zandronum with all these mods is also right and in order

hexed sky Jul 13, 2018, 6:27 PM

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or making a second state system that runs alongside the existing one

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that is exactly how

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mesh animation playback should happen independently from states

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:28 PM

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but how would you sync actions to animation

hexed sky Jul 13, 2018, 6:28 PM

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through timing

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you'd still have states for that

light prism Jul 13, 2018, 6:29 PM

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im confused as to how it would be that different really

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you'd still need to define at least the start/end points of animation ranges

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regardless of method

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imo wouldnt it be easier just to make changes to how MODELDEF works to make it less fucky?

warped radish Jul 13, 2018, 7:57 PM

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@distant flower I personally have doom2.wad, zandronum.pk3, and GZDoom/lights.pk3 loaded as my base resources for zandronum UDMF, in GZDB. also remember that skulltag_data was changed to skulltag_content-3.0-beta01.pk3 now. also, checkout my video on how to make a new game configuration in GZDB, which is nice for separate projects and also makes it easier for you to do collaborative work with other mappers to work on the same map shared in dropbox without a conflict in resource paths in the generated .dbs file of the map. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4jtUCVKcbs

YouTube

arkore

How to setup a new Game Configuration in GZDoomBuilder

▶ Play video

distant flower Jul 13, 2018, 9:09 PM

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wow I was actually not aware that skulltag data was changed

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is it still necessary to include skulltag actors and such, and if should I do it before skulltag_content?

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@warped radish

warped radish Jul 13, 2018, 9:34 PM

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@distant flower actors is included in that. you only need skulltag_content-3.0-beta01.pk3 now.

dusky relic Jul 14, 2018, 1:16 AM

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cool shadows

📎 unknown.png

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probably fits more in #showroom-archive but its mapping related so eh

vocal crypt Jul 14, 2018, 1:17 AM

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I liked your Mitchell PFP better.

royal wave Jul 14, 2018, 5:31 AM

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grape windows theme

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Reggie avatar

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this place never fails to surprise me

vocal crypt Jul 14, 2018, 9:12 AM

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What?

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Oh.

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I was going to ask if he/she was a furry, but that would've been irrelevant in the times I would have.

distant flower Jul 14, 2018, 1:00 PM

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@royal wave grape is actually based on the Arc GTK theme from XFCE for linux. I tried to recreate it on my windows 7 machine but yea, windows is not very customizable

vocal crypt Jul 14, 2018, 1:07 PM

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You still have a Reggie avatar.

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~~Gay furfag.~~

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kappa

distant flower Jul 14, 2018, 1:07 PM

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and you have zootopia

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w<

vocal crypt Jul 14, 2018, 1:07 PM

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And?

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It's a Disney film.

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Not furry trash.

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kappa

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smh you furries sexualize everything, retards.

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yes I'm joking.

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in seriousness, I'm a furry as well.

distant flower Jul 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

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OwO

unreal oyster Jul 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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this conversation had me very confused because i thought we were talking about Nintendo Reggie lmao

distant flower Jul 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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ok there's still hope in humanity, I wondered why so many people recognized my avatar actually

unreal oyster Jul 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

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oh i recognised it 😛

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but afterwards

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hence my confusion

vocal crypt Jul 14, 2018, 1:13 PM

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we're all furry trash.

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Some of us just keep it in a closet.

royal wave Jul 14, 2018, 2:03 PM

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I actually just happen to have a lot of furry friends. Comes with the Pokémon fandom

vocal crypt Jul 14, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Closet furries, they're labeling themselves as Pokemon fans.

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🙃

timber bridge Jul 14, 2018, 2:17 PM

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helo

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i'm no furry i'm avian

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🙃

somber stream Jul 14, 2018, 2:57 PM

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Can you be furry and not trash though? I wonder doomguy_thonk

distant flower Jul 14, 2018, 3:25 PM

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ye but I can't really give you examples off the top of my head

vocal crypt Jul 14, 2018, 3:25 PM

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I just saw that tumblr post of Reggie.

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Not this second

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but earlier

distant flower Jul 14, 2018, 4:33 PM

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I still have no idea how to copy textures from a specific texture pack for mappers, into my actual wad

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is there a tool to do this or is it literally using slade3 and moving it from one wad to another

shadow bone Jul 14, 2018, 5:12 PM

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Just using Slade to move it from one to the other

dusky relic Jul 14, 2018, 5:37 PM

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#classic-doom-maps-mods is the optimal place for discussion of furries

light prism Jul 14, 2018, 6:26 PM

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how to copy textures: stand hard up against the surface you wish to copy, focus on your chromatophores, eventually you will have copied the texture

timber bridge Jul 14, 2018, 6:32 PM

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i am now FIREBLU, destroyer of eyes

hexed sky Jul 14, 2018, 6:46 PM

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and bitrates

flat storm Jul 14, 2018, 8:51 PM

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is there any better documentation of using inventory bars in SBARINFO besides whats on the zdoom wiki?

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wanted to draw something like this but in doom

📎 lA7GqjN.png

silent totem Jul 14, 2018, 11:35 PM

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I kind of wish GZDoomBuilder would have a way to automatically build dummy sectors for 3d objects

light prism Jul 14, 2018, 11:57 PM

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i think someone might have written an addon for that

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but really once you have built one it takes seconds to copypaste and modify

flat storm Jul 15, 2018, 2:44 AM

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I wonder if I should use more color for small things like items

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180714_223021.png

prisma saddle Jul 15, 2018, 3:06 AM

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I like the visuals so far but I do think the red could be used for things that could damage you.

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Sorta like how Downwell does it.

silent totem Jul 15, 2018, 5:08 AM

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I like the idea of red and black and white

light prism Jul 15, 2018, 5:11 AM

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i think for items you should go with unique and easily identifiable shapes

silent totem Jul 15, 2018, 5:21 AM

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I'm just gonna steal gun designs

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👌

light prism Jul 15, 2018, 5:22 AM

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you and every period shooter from the past 20 years

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Steal from Realm667 or Zdoom Forums. @silent totem

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🙃

silent totem Jul 15, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Thanks

prisma saddle Jul 15, 2018, 6:15 AM

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I've probably been having way too much fun playing with Line Def portals.

silent totem Jul 15, 2018, 6:19 AM

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Hmmm

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Me too

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And I think I have a decent idea

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The idea is to make it look like an airship is flying over a moving ground

Now at first I thought that to get the effect, everything would have to be made of 3d floors, but I've figured that I can have the interior be normal and have portals lead to the outdoor area, where 3d floors are actually used

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Dunno if that's a good explanation

light prism Jul 15, 2018, 6:37 AM

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the other way to do that would be with a moving skybox viewpoint

prisma saddle Jul 15, 2018, 6:38 AM

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Portals can also be used for Room over room I guess.

silent totem Jul 15, 2018, 6:40 AM

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I don't know how to do that @light prism

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But that'd probably be better

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Oh

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Hmmm

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After looking it up this looks a lot better

prisma saddle Jul 15, 2018, 6:53 AM

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So um, how would you say this is in terms of room over room?

📎 Room_over_room_with_sectors_test.wad

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Not sure why sound isn't transferring through the door.

light prism Jul 15, 2018, 6:55 AM

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that works fine

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but yeah portals lack sound propogation and ai can't see through it properly

prisma saddle Jul 15, 2018, 6:56 AM

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Ah.

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Good to know.

light prism Jul 15, 2018, 6:56 AM

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which is why they're best used sparingly

prisma saddle Jul 15, 2018, 6:56 AM

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Good to know their limitations.

light prism Jul 15, 2018, 6:56 AM

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and in situations where those issues wont be a problem

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like duke3d first map, falling down the vent

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https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=55208

ZDoom • View topic - Can't get sound to work correctly between l...

Discussion about ZDoom

silent totem Jul 15, 2018, 7:06 AM

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I also think about using models with certain things, not for enemies or weapons but a few places

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And not super high quality models either, like Quake level of detail

light prism Jul 15, 2018, 7:11 AM

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yes, you can use models as mapobjects

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but you need to define their collision via invisible blocking stuff, actors or midtexes

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unless the model is perfectly cubic

prisma saddle Jul 15, 2018, 7:19 AM

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Detailing with basic models tends to be a lot more convenient than using sectors in my opinion, aside from like the collision stuff.

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I'm tempted to set up some systems for placeable static floor decals for map detailing and such.

light prism Jul 15, 2018, 7:25 AM

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you dont really need models for that

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when you can use +FLATSPRITE

prisma saddle Jul 15, 2018, 7:28 AM

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That's mainly what I was thinking of.

light prism Jul 15, 2018, 7:29 AM

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i wish there was some equivalent to A_Overlay for non-weapon actors

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i know you can just a_warp stuff together but its a bit clumsy and things can break apart in certain situations

brisk flax Jul 15, 2018, 12:40 PM

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Added some GL Defs to Supreme Zombie Man and Exo Imp. Here's a pic. Also that new weapon is "Remote Detonator" and it's from the DOS Game "Blood".

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180715_153631.png

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 12:49 PM

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I'm feeling triggered by how the floor isn't all shiny.

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that, or how it abruptly cuts off.

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:44 PM

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I'm getting a weird error when trying to run my map inside the editor

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zandronum_final/zandronum.pk3 is overriding core lump mapinfo/doom2.txt.

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Execution could not continue

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:44 PM

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What ediotr?

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editor?

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Slade 3?

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:44 PM

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GZDoomBuilder

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bugfix

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:44 PM

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Did you edit the pk3?

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:45 PM

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of zandronum.pk3? Nope

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maybe it's supposed to be excluded from testing parameters

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lul

unreal oyster Jul 15, 2018, 1:45 PM

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you shouldn't be loading zandronum.pk3/gzdoom.pk3 as a resource

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it is

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:45 PM

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Yeah.

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:45 PM

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why include it then tho

unreal oyster Jul 15, 2018, 1:46 PM

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you generally don't have to for zandronum.pk3 iirc, you do need to include gzdoom.pk3 if you want to use ZScript but that's another thing entirely

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:47 PM

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Yea but @warped radish in his video includes zandronum.pk3, maybe it's for zandronum's extensions in ACS? I don't really know

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he sent me it after I asked about like 500 errors when opening a map with my configurations

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:48 PM

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Dude, you should only have an iwad with testing paremeters unless you're using pwads.

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Or something like that.

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:49 PM

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well I got doom2.wad, skulltag_content, and 4 texture packs

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nothing game changing really

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:50 PM

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And that's it? Because I think I'm seeing more when you're trying to use Zandronum.pk3 😛

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:50 PM

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well yea I had that but i removed it

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cuz i couldnt launch the game lmao

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:51 PM

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What are you making anyway.

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:51 PM

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a map

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:51 PM

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What kind of map.

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:51 PM

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singleplayer

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with GTA San Andreas theme as midi lul

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nothing special really

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:54 PM

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"midi" or the midi used in Doom 2.

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:54 PM

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literally GTA SA.mid inside my wad

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Does it sound like a bunch of pianos though

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Or no

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:54 PM

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no?

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i havent used a converter lul

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:54 PM

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lol

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Where you get it from then

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:54 PM

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the internet

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:54 PM

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where on the internet.

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:55 PM

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i just googled gta san andreas theme midi

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and went to the first link

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why asking tho

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:57 PM

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Because people are memeing with midi and using a converter.

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:57 PM

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i hate that shit tbh

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:57 PM

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ikr

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started with Joel from Vinesauce

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:58 PM

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I got all my doom sourceports configured with timidity and like a 60 mb soundfont

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even slade got it set up

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and midi sounds gorgeous with it

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:59 PM

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smh, no midi for Half Life Military Precision

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:59 PM

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rip

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if you know the score I can try make one

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using a tracker or with fl studio 12

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:59 PM

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I don't do music much so rip.

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 1:59 PM

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not some converter cancer

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yea I do tho

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 1:59 PM

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I can't give you much other than the music on Youtube.

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I don't know the score.

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 2:00 PM

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gimme

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 2:00 PM

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Okay...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3_c9djkr08

YouTube

xRussianYulia17x

Half-Life [Music] - Military Precision

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife/index.html

▶ Play video

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Not sure how you'll do it with precision.

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(pun/joke not intended.)

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 2:01 PM

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not that hard actually

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might try to make it by ear

hexed sky Jul 15, 2018, 2:32 PM

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ahhhh

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freeman's mind

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 2:33 PM

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Yep.

hexed sky Jul 15, 2018, 2:33 PM

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I don't even remember when that theme plays in-game in hl1

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 2:33 PM

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Hell, I keep having the idea of Doom Guy's mind, but he's bored af from constantly killing demons.

hexed sky Jul 15, 2018, 2:34 PM

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actually ross did that one for an april fool's

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 2:34 PM

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Yeah but that was him being a badass.

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Not "oh another demon to kill, funsies" sarcasm.

hexed sky Jul 15, 2018, 2:34 PM

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yeah I would love a more true-to-story doomguy rather than the comic/bdguy

vocal crypt Jul 15, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Eh, my idea would've had him be bored, except he'd be angry and be comic/bdguy if he was beserked up.

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Of course he'd revert to normal when it was over.

warped radish Jul 15, 2018, 3:11 PM

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@distant flower when you add resources in gzdb, you can check box to exclude them from testing. you do this for doom2.wad, zan pk3 and lights pk3

distant flower Jul 15, 2018, 4:28 PM

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why exclude doom2 from testing

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is it because zandro can find doom2 on it's own or because it's in the directory of the sourceport

warped radish Jul 15, 2018, 5:08 PM

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it's because zandronum is already configured to load doom2 when you installed zandronum.

silent totem Jul 15, 2018, 8:59 PM

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Okay, so in GZDOOM builder, in viewport mode, all of a sudden I'm not flying, I'm moving like a player

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What button did I press

unreal oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:01 PM

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G if memory serves correctly

light prism Jul 15, 2018, 9:06 PM

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yeah g is for gravity

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 12:45 AM

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is there anyway to make sprites on the ground billboard completely face up?

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180715_204231.png

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This is my sprite

📎 unknown.png

vocal crypt Jul 16, 2018, 12:45 AM

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You could use a middle texture for a line.

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Or you can create a thing

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An actor, if you will.

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 12:46 AM

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it is an actor

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basically that scroll creates a teleport sigil on the gound

vocal crypt Jul 16, 2018, 12:47 AM

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Is it decorative, or no?

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 12:47 AM

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add +FORCEYBILLBOARD to your actor

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Actor_flags#FORCEYBILLBOARD

Actor flags

topaz tendon Jul 16, 2018, 12:48 AM

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at first I thought you were joking but no, that's actual zdoom syntax

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 12:48 AM

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@flat storm

vocal crypt Jul 16, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Well, the Y would be the axis so.

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It's not like it's +ASSCHEEKS

topaz tendon Jul 16, 2018, 12:49 AM

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that makes sence. I read it as "forcey billboard"

vocal crypt Jul 16, 2018, 12:49 AM

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So did I.

topaz tendon Jul 16, 2018, 12:49 AM

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like "rooty tooty point n shooty"

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 12:50 AM

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I think I understood what unstoppable was feeling with that comment, because the answer is literally what the question was, using the term billboard. The answer was "too good to be true".

silent totem Jul 16, 2018, 12:51 AM

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Forcey Bill Board

light prism Jul 16, 2018, 12:52 AM

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uhhh what

topaz tendon Jul 16, 2018, 12:53 AM

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exactly

light prism Jul 16, 2018, 12:53 AM

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sprites should not be flat like that

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unless you are using +FLATSPRITE

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which will never billboard

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because that is the entire point of +FLATSPRITE

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and those look like +FLATSPRITE's

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 12:54 AM

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true. so, it would be interesting to know what his actor code currently is.

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 12:54 AM

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tried the forcey flag

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still the same result

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 12:54 AM

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what flags are you using on that actor

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 12:56 AM

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+NOBLOCKMAP
+MOVEWITHSECTOR
+DONTSPLASH
+FORCEYBILLBOARD

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 12:57 AM

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hmm. any scale settings? does your actor extend another actor?

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 12:58 AM

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nope

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 12:59 AM

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well, something is wrong then.

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i mean, first of all, your sprite looks squished on the Y axis. what's doing that

vocal crypt Jul 16, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Maybe a problem with his GZdoom?

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I'm just throwing ideas out there.

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 1:02 AM

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I wonder if it's my billboard settings

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ikts set to just y axis

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I change it to x/Y but got the same thing tho

light prism Jul 16, 2018, 1:03 AM

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if it was set just to y axis it would be clearly NOT squished

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pastebin the entire actor

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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I mean, the only thing that would squish a sprite on Y axis, is if you had a property of YScale 0.5 in your actor. heh.

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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ACTOR ChaosSigil
{
Radius 8
Height 4
Renderstyle Add
Scale 0.5
yScale 0.05

var int user_sigil;

+NOBLOCKMAP
+MOVEWITHSECTOR
+DONTSPLASH
+FORCEYBILLBOARD

States
{
Spawn:
CSIG A 8 bright A_SpawnItemEx("TeleGlitter1", randomTeleGlitter-16, randomTeleGlitter-16, 0, 0, 0, 0.25)
CSIG A 0 bright A_SpawnItemEx ("ChaosSigilTeleporter", 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, 0, 0, 0)
CSIG A 0 bright A_SetUserVar ("user_sigil", user_sigil + 1)
CSIG A 0 bright A_JumpIf(user_sigil == 64, "Death")
Loop
Death:
CSIG A 4 bright A_FadeOut(0.1)
Loop
}
}

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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lol

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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which I just realized I do

light prism Jul 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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in fact from the angle the screenshot is taken Y and XY would look pretty much the same

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 1:05 AM

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I want it to decal on the ground like a texture though, if that makes sense

light prism Jul 16, 2018, 1:05 AM

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use +FLATSPRITE then

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the y-scale 0.05 is probably doing it

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remove all your scale settings

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just use +FLATSPRITE by itself

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remove the billboarding flag too

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 1:07 AM

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I did, and it worked

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thanks fellas

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 1:07 AM

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i didn't know about +FLATSPRITE. heh. not sure if zandronum supports that yet or not. the only other way was a hack, using .md3 models, of a flat square

light prism Jul 16, 2018, 1:07 AM

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yeah, zandro is zandro

vocal crypt Jul 16, 2018, 1:08 AM

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Zandro is "we can't update the GZDoom version we're using because MP."

light prism Jul 16, 2018, 1:08 AM

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the suicide demons in wormsdoom were just a single plane .md3 :3

flat storm Jul 16, 2018, 1:08 AM

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this is probably a GZDOOM only mod

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20180715_210818.png

silent totem Jul 16, 2018, 1:09 AM

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Best source port?

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For modding

warped radish Jul 16, 2018, 1:10 AM

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well, yeah it is. but if you're making a multiplayer mod, you may want to be compatible with zandronum.

vocal crypt Jul 16, 2018, 1:10 AM

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It depends on the mod goal.

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Is it mostly SP?