#classic-doom-maps-mods | DOOM | Page 65

wary zealot Oct 22, 2017, 9:25 PM

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Hm.

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For some odd reason my shotgun is consuming two ammo despite the Weapon.AmmoUse property being set to "1"

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Two ammo per shot, I mean.

haughty flower Oct 22, 2017, 9:26 PM

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GWcfcThonk

wary zealot Oct 22, 2017, 9:29 PM

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....and if I set the ammo.use to 0 it consumes no ammo, meaning that there isn't a faulty "Takeinventory" somewhere.

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What the fuck...?

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I mean, I could just set the ammo use to zero and put a "Takeinventory" in the fire state that takes a loaded shell, but that doesn't change that something fucky is happening.

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https://pastebin.com/XkHpXyyY

Pastebin

ACTOR "Remington 915" : Weapon { Inventory.Pickupmessage "You got the Remingto - Pastebin.com

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Here's the entirety of the shotgun's code...

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It's terribly messy, I know.

light prism Oct 22, 2017, 9:35 PM

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what skill level are you testing on

wary zealot Oct 22, 2017, 9:36 PM

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Ultra-Violence?

light prism Oct 22, 2017, 9:36 PM

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hmm

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im too tired for this right now, sorry

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just remember that on skill 1 and 5, ammo is doubled

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there is a flag to disable this on ammo items

wary zealot Oct 22, 2017, 9:43 PM

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Yeah, but ammo consumption isn't doubled as well.

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Thanks though.

light prism Oct 22, 2017, 9:44 PM

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are you sure refiring isn't causing it

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(i havent looked at code)

wary zealot Oct 22, 2017, 9:45 PM

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yup.

livid hearth Oct 22, 2017, 9:46 PM

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Try changing Weapon.AmmoType and Weapon.AmmoUse to Weapon.AmmoType1 and Weapon.AmmoUse1 and see what happens

wary zealot Oct 22, 2017, 9:47 PM

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It didn't work, and I checked the rifle, it's also consuming two ammo per shot, what the fuck.

vocal crypt Oct 22, 2017, 9:48 PM

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hmm

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have you checked the fire stat

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e

wary zealot Oct 22, 2017, 9:48 PM

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I have, but I just figured out the problem and I feel like even more of a moron than usual.

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a_Spawnitem uses ammo by default.

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for some reason

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and I use A_Spawnitem to spawn the muzzleflash's dynamic lights.

livid hearth Oct 22, 2017, 9:50 PM

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Ohh

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yeah, I never use that function, I use A_SpawnItemEx instead

light prism Oct 22, 2017, 9:51 PM

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hahahaha

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owned

vocal crypt Oct 22, 2017, 10:23 PM

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would a spy in this Mann vs Demonn thing be possible?

wary zealot Oct 22, 2017, 10:30 PM

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Probably, if you coded it.

vocal crypt Oct 22, 2017, 10:30 PM

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eh

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I'll focus on Engie first.

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uh...

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idk How to get the model

livid hearth Oct 22, 2017, 10:36 PM

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you can remake it by creating a voxel, or making a low def model

vocal crypt Oct 22, 2017, 10:36 PM

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the latter being something like Blender

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because i'm not a modeler

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eh I'm conflicted

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or, IDK how 2 create a voxel

livid hearth Oct 22, 2017, 10:50 PM

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https://ephtracy.github.io

vocal crypt Oct 22, 2017, 10:51 PM

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huh

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nice

lavish hollow Oct 22, 2017, 10:59 PM

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MagicaVoxel is the best voxel editing tool you can get

vocal crypt Oct 22, 2017, 10:59 PM

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not to say it isn't tedious

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but tbf

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I'm using it for first time

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so

lavish hollow Oct 22, 2017, 11:00 PM

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It's actually pretty intuitive

vocal crypt Oct 22, 2017, 11:19 PM

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ugh

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the model I was making was ugly

vocal crypt Oct 22, 2017, 11:47 PM

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lol shitty model.

📎 Screenshot_364.png

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fixed it up a beet

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📎 Screenshot_365.png

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I'm thinking it lacks colors NOSHIT

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shit

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how do you apply textures to a model

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📎 Screenshot_366.png

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I feel the model is naked without the UAC texture thing

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 12:04 AM

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Isn't the entire point of voxels that there is no texture on them?

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Like, you could recreate the UAC logo using differently colored blocks.

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 12:04 AM

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never thought bout that until now, the no texture part

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and I was thinking of the UAC color block thing when I was takin a piss

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though it might be too small

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 12:25 AM

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should I move the green part over the yellowish cubes?

📎 Screenshot_367.png

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I added wires and thought of it as the UAC having a stand for whatever you place on top of it

📎 Screenshot_368.png

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 12:50 AM

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UGH

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god fuckin damned it

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my Sentry Gun LVL 2 thing I accidentally saved in place of Sentry Gun Lvl 1

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 12:53 AM

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Oh...

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 12:54 AM

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yeah it feckin sucks

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cause the designs might be a lil inconsistent

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here is the second crack at a lvl 1 sentry

📎 Screenshot_369.png

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or third crack

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this is the attempt at a lvl 2 sentry

📎 Screenshot_370.png

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might need to rework the Lvl 3

📎 Screenshot_371.png

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uhm

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how do I get voxes in doom

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do I convert them to md2 or md3?

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 1:16 AM

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I don't wanna be "that guy", but the wiki tells you.

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:16 AM

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ze ZDoom viki?

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 1:16 AM

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Yes.

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I can provide a link, though.

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:16 AM

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I can tell you, actually, since I've done it before

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:16 AM

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oh nice Jefe

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:16 AM

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You'll need another program tho, sadly

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 1:16 AM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/voxel

Voxel

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:16 AM

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eh if it's free it won't matter

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:17 AM

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Convert the voxels to .slab, then get the program Slab6

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http://advsys.net/ken/download.htm

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:17 AM

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wait

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you can convert voxels to slab with magicavoxel?

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:17 AM

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Ye

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Click the export button

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:18 AM

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k done

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and gotta get Slab 6

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ugh

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what was the website made in, 1999?

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:19 AM

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Probably, idek

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:19 AM

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anyway, Slab6 downloaded

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:20 AM

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Load the slab voxel in slab6 and then export it as a .kvx file

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:20 AM

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you mean save it as a kvx

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I don't see a export button

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:21 AM

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yeah that's what I meant

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:21 AM

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uhm

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which mip

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:21 AM

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1

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:21 AM

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k

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that's done

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:21 AM

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I think it says 5 is for blood or something lol

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:21 AM

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build engine

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:22 AM

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Now you need to put the kvx file in your wad, with slade3 (obviously)

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:22 AM

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or in this case PK3

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:22 AM

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I don't even know why I said wad lmao

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:23 AM

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done

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Slade3 recognizes it as a voxel (KVX)

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so thats good

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:24 AM

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Now I believe you name it the same thing as the sprite you want it to replace

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This isn't for a weapon, right? Like, one on the hud?

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:24 AM

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no

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a deployable

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:24 AM

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Yeah then that'll work

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:24 AM

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it's a sentry gun

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shitty design myes

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:25 AM

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Also you can make a file called voxeldef.txt to add version things like rotates and glows I think, but I don't really mess with those so idk

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:25 AM

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eh

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anyway

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hmmm

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:26 AM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/VOXELDEF

VOXELDEF

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:26 AM

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perhaps the invisisphere can be replaced

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or partial invisibility

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:26 AM

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It can be

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:27 AM

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so in this case, name it BlurSphere?

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:27 AM

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It needs to be the same name as the sprite

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:27 AM

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Oh

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hmm

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:27 AM

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So for example, ASDF.png

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:27 AM

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I can make a actor with the stuff, right

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an actor for the sentry guns?

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or something?

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:27 AM

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Yes

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Sadly that's where I can't really help lol, but yeah I'm pretty sure you can do that, I've seen mods with turrets before

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:33 AM

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so just name the voxel the frame word?

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:34 AM

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I believe so, yes

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:36 AM

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well I see em spawning

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but they're apparently dropping on the floor

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or going through it

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:36 AM

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Ohhhhh I forgot to tell you

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:37 AM

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hmm

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:37 AM

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You have to adjust the scale of the voxels in slab6

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:37 AM

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what?

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uhm

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how

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:38 AM

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In slab, you need to adjust these boxes around the voxel that show where it's located, you need to set them on the bottom, top and sides so they don't fall through the floor

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And how, I don't know because I haven't touched slab in months

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:39 AM

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what "boxes" around the voxel

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:39 AM

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I think there's a thing you have to click in the options at the top right

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:40 AM

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options menu u mean

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:40 AM

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Ok I meant offsets, not scales

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Jesus I really need to get back into voxeling

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:41 AM

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how do I adjust offsets

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@lavish hollow ?

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:43 AM

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Check this thread

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https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=45528

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:44 AM

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huh

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people havin probs run SLAB6

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and I ran it without compatability problems

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:45 AM

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Same here lol, on windows 10

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:45 AM

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8.1 over here

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uhm

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the size has increased

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but

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it's still dissapearing

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@lavish hollow

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after I get outta the console

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:49 AM

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Not the size, the offsets

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You're messing with the console?

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:49 AM

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no no, ingame size

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🤦🏻

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:49 AM

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Oh

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:49 AM

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ingame it looks bigger

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the ingame console

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but

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it still dissapearing when I get out of the console

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the model

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you get me

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:50 AM

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Yeah, they're not disappearing, they're still falling through the floor

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Noclip and you can find them rofl

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For some reason, the default offsets are way above the voxel, meaning the game thinks they're higher than they are, so the models fall through the floor like it was air

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:53 AM

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UHM

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*Uhm

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it's suppose to show in the littel boxes

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right

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?

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:57 AM

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At the top left corner, click "tools" and "adjust pivots"

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 1:57 AM

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that I have already

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and then what

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@lavish hollow

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 1:59 AM

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Put the mouse over one of the boxes and adjust them with the arrow keys

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The sides you don't really need to worry about, I don't think, just get the bottom right so they don't fall through the floor

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 2:01 AM

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how do I get the bottom "right"

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do the flashing things need to be on teh sides of the cube

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or square

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@lavish hollow

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 2:03 AM

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The flashing things are the X, Y and Z axis of the voxel

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 2:03 AM

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I figured

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how do I get it "right" so it doesn't fall through the floor

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 2:03 AM

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By "right" I mean put the right line on the bottom

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Which should be the Z, I think

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 2:05 AM

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the flashing line on the left? Mate IDK WTF you talking about

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there's many flashing lines

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 2:06 AM

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Mate did you read my message earlier, put your mouse over one of the boxes (the boxes have "x" "y" and "z" over them) and use the arrow keys to move it

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The boxes on the left corner

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 2:06 AM

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I did

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but how much do I move em where it won't fall through so fuckin fast

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 2:07 AM

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Put it at the bottom of the voxel, that way it won't fall through anything lmao

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 2:12 AM

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@lavish hollow you say it's fallin through the floor and I can see it by noclipping right?

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well

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I don't see it evn with noclip

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 2:13 AM

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Try using the summon command and spawn it right in front of you

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 2:13 AM

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I BEEN DOIN THAT

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 2:13 AM

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bitc dont gimme that atitude

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 2:14 AM

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anyway

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uhm

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@lavish hollow I've been doing it like hat

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 2:49 AM

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Then you didn't put the offset in the right place

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 3:50 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVbyquAxP1I

YouTube

Rallinth

Kicking

▶ Play video

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I'm working on a dumb melee-based mod inspired by 2d brawlers (think streets of rage, or for a much more modern example, Mother Russia Bleeds).

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very early stages, but here's the kick, which does 10 damage but increases its damage depending on your velocity.

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 3:53 AM

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Lookin good.

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Could be an interesting multiplayer mod.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:01 AM

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It's something so simple as kicking, yet you made it feel so satisfying

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That takes talent

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:11 AM

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Awh, thanks.

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What part of it is satisfying, in your opinion?

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Is the sound, screen motion, animation?

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I want to know so I can get it right again.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:13 AM

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It's so hard to say, you could've just had a weak-ass kick, but yeah the motion, the way it felt

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it felt strong

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:13 AM

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Gotcha.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkTcxkMJn-Q

YouTube

Rallinth

Basic Combo

▶ Play video

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Here's something I'm adding now, basic combos.

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The reason it's so hard for me to pull it off in the video is because I keep accidentally starting the 'charge punch' animation, I'm going to need to find a way to fix that.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:14 AM

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Weird, also, I'd love to see the day where you can sneak up on small enemies, put them in a chokdhold, and strangle them to death lmao

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:14 AM

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Motherfucker my internet and mobile data are loading shit slow except 4 discord

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Oh sorry

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:15 AM

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Maybe someday, Yoko, but I'd rather stay away from things that require complex animations.

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Besides, this isn't brutal doom, my mod isn't going to have pre-animated takedowns.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:15 AM

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The entire idea of having a full-on CQC system would be badass

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lmao

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:15 AM

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But yeah, this mod is going to be very CQC focused.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:15 AM

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The modern MGS games made me appreciate CQC

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since in the old games you could barely do shit

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:15 AM

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Inspired heavily by old beat-em-ups/brawlers.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:16 AM

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I'm attracted to the idea of stealth mods, since they're so here and there

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:17 AM

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Should I just give up on the idea of having charge-punching and normal punching be on the same button due to how many problems it causes? I really like simple, context sensitive controls but I don't think it's possible with my limited coding knowledge here.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:18 AM

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I don't know if pressure senstivity even exists on PC lol

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or how that would even work

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:19 AM

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It's not pressure sensitive, it's more that if it detects you holding your mouse button while the 'fist lowering' animation is playing, it switches to the charge punch state.

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But due how to refire works rapid clicking or even a single click counts as holding.

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but that's just bad coding on my part.

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 4:19 AM

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I'm pressure sensitive

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STOP LOOKING AT ME

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:19 AM

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lol

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Perhaps maybe you'll figure it out

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:20 AM

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Actually, I have a dumb idea for how to handle it.

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I was thinking of making it so that with charge-punching being on the same button as normal punching, that R would be the button for uppercuts.

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 4:21 AM

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I can't wait until analog WASD keys start becoming a thing.

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:21 AM

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But instead, now, I could make it so holding R charges, but holding R for twice as long as normal prepares an uppercut.

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While holding R for the normal duration prepares a normal charge punch.

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That way, the Q key is still free and I have all the actions I want implemented.

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The Q key is going to be the dedicated 'drop weapon', button. Because in the mod (if I manage to program it right), like a traditional beat-em-up, you can only carry one weapon at a time, and they often break.

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Does that all sound good to you guys?

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:23 AM

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Sure

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Q is a freeby anyway

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 4:30 AM

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q is my turn180 key

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:42 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOh-DDvHG-o

YouTube

Rallinth

An attack so silly, it crashes the game!

▶ Play video

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Things shown in this video:

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-Kicks can now be chained into punchs.

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:43 AM

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Fisting a zombie man

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:43 AM

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-I've added a roundhouse kick.

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-The roundhouse kick crashes the game.

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:43 AM

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Well that was a rollercoaster ride

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:43 AM

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Doom cannot handle the power of Chuck Norris

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or delicious food

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that's right, we 2008 now.

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:44 AM

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Oh no

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Financial Crisis

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 4:44 AM

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stop crashing the game please

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:44 AM

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And the economy

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:44 AM

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No I mean, the Chuck Norris joke

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:44 AM

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I know

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:44 AM

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I uhh... apologies for derailing this channel

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 4:44 AM

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@wary zealot Maybe add an axe or a baseball bat?

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:44 AM

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No that was me

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 4:45 AM

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Also, add teeth that fly everywhere.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:45 AM

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holy shit, now you're talking

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:45 AM

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I derailed it with fisting zombiemen

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 4:45 AM

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Make it so punching demons causes them to lose teeth.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:45 AM

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Now what you like to do in your private time is not of our concern young man

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I like the baseball bat idea, make it like Worms haha

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:46 AM

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Hatsu, I'm totally adding extra weapons, and if I can find suitable teeth sprites I just might.

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But the problem would be enemies losing teeth no matter where you punch them.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:46 AM

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damn, limitations

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There were headshot mods, right?

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I remember one, but it had malware iirc lmao

hardy cobalt Oct 23, 2017, 4:46 AM

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who knows? maybe demons have teeth everywhere.

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 4:47 AM

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Maybe just, give it like, a one in fifty chance of dropping a tooth or something.

hardy cobalt Oct 23, 2017, 4:47 AM

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https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=57487

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universal headshots mod in zscript

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it creates headshot hitboxes based on the actor's size

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:47 AM

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I find things like that important, for the sake of vehicles, for example, you're fighting a tank, but it has that good of armor, so you need to throw grenades into the gunner seat or whatever it's called

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I'll have to bookmark that one

hardy cobalt Oct 23, 2017, 4:47 AM

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very customizable

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:47 AM

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I know absolutely nothing about zscript or any kind of programming other than decorate, buut thanks, Someone.

hardy cobalt Oct 23, 2017, 4:48 AM

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no, it's not so complex. this is more of a plug and play kind of script. inside you just have to write the names of actors that you want to make excemptions for

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:48 AM

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I need ZScript for my hud mod I'm developing for a bigger mod

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 4:48 AM

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The teeth could be like bullet shells,

hardy cobalt Oct 23, 2017, 4:48 AM

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but other than that it's all automatic

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:48 AM

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The game does the compiling on it's own I'd take it?

hardy cobalt Oct 23, 2017, 4:49 AM

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yeah you can load zscript files like any other decorate text file

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unlike acs

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:49 AM

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that's good

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 4:50 AM

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@wary zealot Would be willing to make a tooth sprite though.

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 4:51 AM

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Maybe once things are more developed and I'm working on monsters, sure, but for now don't waste your time on my crap. Thanks, though!

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 4:51 AM

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But I want to waste my time on your things though :C

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:51 AM

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That's been my problem for eons, I've always needed a graphics person

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:52 AM

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I have shitty sentry models

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For my mod

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Scroll up for pictures btw

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Way up

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:52 AM

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Believe it or not but even I've tried my hand with non Terry-stuff

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I had no idea where I was going with it, but I was developing stuff great for Tower Defense and whatnot

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:53 AM

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I'm trying to do Mann vs Demonn Doom Fortress

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:53 AM

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hmm

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The one thing I would really like, is a good Cypher model or sprite set

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It's a shame this is no longer having stuff added to it http://redalertwarehouse.blogspot.com/

Red Alert Warehouse

ZDoom custom resources.

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This is where I got my SOCOM, and my FAMAS

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 4:58 AM

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What does that contain

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Oh

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 4:58 AM

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Think Realm667

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but not lol

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Weapons,

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Enemies (not many though), an okay-looking autoturret, a decent amount of decorations

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 5:10 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_zOgHpOP0

YouTube

Rallinth

This is super janky

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I'm starting to wonder if this is a promising idea or not.

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 5:11 AM

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melee working well in doom:? naaaaaah youre fine brooooo

prisma saddle Oct 23, 2017, 5:13 AM

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Also, maybe copy and paste the blood code from Downsize into it.

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 5:14 AM

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Planning on that.

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 7:00 AM

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We probably should've been talking about all of that shit in here

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 7:00 AM

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now i want to play ultima underworld again

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 9:16 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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what, the, fuck

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 9:27 AM

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dynamite

hazy lantern Oct 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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Damn this hurts so much to look at...

haughty flower Oct 23, 2017, 9:58 AM

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I agree.

warped rampart Oct 23, 2017, 12:30 PM

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I don’t even know much about programming, but I feel like I really need a medikit after looking at that.

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 12:34 PM

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What is it

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It's Gray on mobile

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Oh

keen stirrup Oct 23, 2017, 2:32 PM

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heya guys random question, if i am using decorate to randomize keycards. via actor redcard : newRedcard how do i make it pick up in my inventory after picking it up

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if your wondering why, i am making a small map where keys get randomized around the location, to open up a small room with some loot inside.

livid hearth Oct 23, 2017, 2:35 PM

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I think you may need to define new lock types in LOCKDEFS and define new key items for them

keen stirrup Oct 23, 2017, 2:36 PM

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that is a good point, but one step at a time atm, cause the newredcard isn't being put into my key inventory at all. once i get pass that then i can focus on the coding on the map

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or if there someother way to randomize it location.

livid hearth Oct 23, 2017, 2:42 PM

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I think you did it the wrong way around

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it's Actor [New Actor] : [Old Actor to Inherit from]

keen stirrup Oct 23, 2017, 2:43 PM

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no i got it around the right way in the code. just not in the discord.

livid hearth Oct 23, 2017, 2:43 PM

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Ohh

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I'll have to look into itmyself

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I never really messed with keys

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so my guess is gonna be as good as yours, sorry

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 5:58 PM

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i wouldnt trust randomizing key locations if you cant first figure out a way to walk through the map and know where locked doors are

keen stirrup Oct 23, 2017, 6:35 PM

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@light prism the map it self is a hold out survival map, (think map30 icon of sin in doom 2) the doors are just ment to be a small minor reward that can sometimes be access.

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 9:49 PM

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Dangit, I'm starting to realize my brawler idea isn't really a good one because if I want to have a proper 'knockdown' system for enemies, I need the sprites for it.

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Like, sprites for bloodless versions of an enemy's death animation, as well as sprites for them getting back up.

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Well, guess I'll scrap this idea for when I can sprite, then.

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 9:51 PM

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that and first person perspective really doesnt lend itself well to melee fighting

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 9:51 PM

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my Mann vs Demonn idea is terrible as well

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 9:51 PM

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I wouldn't say that, Mistercat, Condemned wants a word with you.

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 9:51 PM

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I didn't say it's impossible

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it just has to be done in a very specific way

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 9:51 PM

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Ah, okay.

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Yeah.

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 9:51 PM

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since you have no presence of body

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which is, yknow ,the thing you are swinging around to hit people with

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 9:56 PM

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Ah.

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Well, I guess I'll just try and do this without a knockdown mechanic.

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 9:57 PM

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@wary zealot I know you hate it but BD has these bloodless "knockdown" sprites you're referring to

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As well as getting up ones

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 9:58 PM

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It does, and I was thinking of using them, but I wouldn't be surprised if Mark wouldn't allow others to use them.

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(Ironically, considering he steals sprites like nobody's business)

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 9:58 PM

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Mm, no

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He's credited the sprites now, and he's fine with people using his stuff as long as he's credited

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 9:59 PM

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Ah, good!

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 9:59 PM

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I'm a moderator on the BD discord, I talk to him every once in a while, you know

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 10:00 PM

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Didn't someone once post NSFL content on the BD discord and get banned for it?

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 10:00 PM

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NSFL

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not safe for losers

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 10:01 PM

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*Licking

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 10:02 PM

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Not Safe For Llamas

vocal crypt Oct 23, 2017, 10:02 PM

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Not Safe For Love

lavish hollow Oct 23, 2017, 10:03 PM

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And yes, the BD server used to have an NSFW channel that very obviously went downhill, people were banned and the channel was deleted within the week, if I remember correctly @wary zealot

wary zealot Oct 23, 2017, 10:03 PM

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Ah, I see.

warped rampart Oct 23, 2017, 10:12 PM

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And Sarge himself even said “No, let’s not have another NSFW channel.”

uneven quiver Oct 23, 2017, 11:14 PM

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updated FISH's alfa demo based with some feedback from here

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https://8ah.itch.io/fish-demo

itch.io

FISH (Demo for Crowdfunding) by 8ah

An old-school Fish Person Shooter

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 11:37 PM

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got much funding yet?

uneven quiver Oct 23, 2017, 11:56 PM

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nops :/

royal wave Oct 23, 2017, 11:57 PM

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:<

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Well don’t let that discourage you. Keep working

light prism Oct 23, 2017, 11:58 PM

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d'aw

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are you doing much advertising?

uneven quiver Oct 23, 2017, 11:58 PM

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I'm trying...

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got a post on rockpapershotgun

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still have 3 weeks thought

prisma saddle Oct 24, 2017, 12:55 AM

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Looks pretty good so far, keep at it :D

pale sleet Oct 24, 2017, 1:01 AM

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so my frames are dropping like crazy in bd black edition everytime i look more than 10 degrees in any direction. any tips on how to better optimize the game?

lavish hollow Oct 24, 2017, 1:03 AM

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This channel is mainly for help making mods btw, I don't know why anyone pointed you here, but try turning stuff down/off in the OpenGL options

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 1:05 AM

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delete it from your hard drive

lavish hollow Oct 24, 2017, 1:06 AM

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See, this is why you don't talk about BD here lmao

uneven quiver Oct 24, 2017, 1:08 AM

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lol

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 1:21 AM

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its true though

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if you delete it your framerate will jump to infinite

wary zealot Oct 24, 2017, 1:29 AM

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that isn't far off to the truth, honestly, considering BD itself is unoptimized and black edition is just a poor 'addon' that takes content from other mods, most likely without permission, then smushes it all together, replaces some sprites and sounds with doom 3 stuff, and calls it a day.

prisma saddle Oct 24, 2017, 1:31 AM

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@wary zealot how's Downsize going?

lavish hollow Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 AM

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It's not really fair to just assume they got the assets without permission

wary zealot Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 AM

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I'm waiting until more people give feedback before I develop more, Hatsu.

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I haven't gotten much reception yet.

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But the mod is practically feature complete!

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Two selectable main weapons, both with alt-fires, reloading, and unique mechanics for both.

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One secondary weapon, with an upgrade.

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One melee weapon, and grenades.

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All that's really left is polishing and balancing, and I'm waiting for people to give feedback on what I should do for those.

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I've started work on a new mod, which is going to be melee combat focused, but it's very early. Plus I'm about to do a stream of Downsize for funsies.

prisma saddle Oct 24, 2017, 1:36 AM

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😀

wary zealot Oct 24, 2017, 1:45 AM

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Do you want a link to the stream when I start it, Hatsu? I'll send you a friend request.

prisma saddle Oct 24, 2017, 1:48 AM

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Probably not,

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Thanks for the offer though.

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 1:52 AM

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ohhhhh burn

wary zealot Oct 24, 2017, 3:36 AM

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Does anyone know a good source for some socket-wrench sound effects?

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Like, sounds similar to the Half Life 1: Opposing Force wrench, but higher quality.

lavish hollow Oct 24, 2017, 3:37 AM

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i was gonna say HL:OP lol

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how about the new PREY?

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 3:38 AM

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freesound.org

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search: wrench

wary zealot Oct 24, 2017, 3:49 AM

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I went there first, Mister, all of the sounds are just the sounds of turning the twiddly thing on a socket wrench.

lavish hollow Oct 24, 2017, 3:50 AM

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System Shock, maybe?

wary zealot Oct 24, 2017, 3:55 AM

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Perhaps, found some, either way.

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From an obscure source.

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Wrench sounds from bioshock, except I got them through a mod for TF2 that replaces some of the sounds with bioshock sounds, for whatever reason.

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 4:52 AM

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freesound.org

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search: metal hit

trim falcon Oct 24, 2017, 6:32 AM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/ZScript_virtual_functions

ZScript virtual functions

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this is hell

haughty flower Oct 24, 2017, 6:32 AM

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ZScript makes me poo poo in the pants pants :c

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 6:36 AM

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me too

muted wing Oct 24, 2017, 6:40 AM

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how is it hell? this kinda looks like any other programing method.

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 6:41 AM

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because it's not really very well documented

muted wing Oct 24, 2017, 6:41 AM

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OK, that's hell

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 6:41 AM

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you have to source dive to figure out most shit

muted wing Oct 24, 2017, 6:42 AM

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God why have you forsaken us.

haughty flower Oct 24, 2017, 6:45 AM

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Everyone who documents everything is doing everyone a favor

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 7:02 AM

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im back

haughty flower Oct 24, 2017, 11:43 AM

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@light prism looks fucking great man

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the angles make it almost look like it's 3D aswell since you don't notice angle snaps i guess

livid hearth Oct 24, 2017, 12:05 PM

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I wonder how he made it

unreal oyster Oct 24, 2017, 12:09 PM

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probably a 3d modelling program with a particle system

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i'd guess blender

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then just render from 16 angles

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 5:48 PM

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yeah

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i then proceeded to name all 200 files in reverse

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and instead of fixing it i just gave it a negative horizontal scale in the actor 😦

light prism Oct 24, 2017, 6:12 PM

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also 16 angles yes, but only rendered 8 and mirrored

royal wave Oct 25, 2017, 3:22 AM

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I think I'm only making it worse

📎 pistol.gif

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 3:27 AM

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Is that an USP Match?

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 3:28 AM

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Reminds me of the Hl2 pistol

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 3:30 AM

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That's an USP Match as well.

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 3:37 AM

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Ah.

royal wave Oct 25, 2017, 3:51 AM

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nah I just drew something gun shaped

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📎 pistol.gif

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📎 pistol.gif

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the smallest tween changes everything

muted wing Oct 25, 2017, 3:54 AM

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Was this the one on the with the SCP statue in the demo?

royal wave Oct 25, 2017, 3:54 AM

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yeah

muted wing Oct 25, 2017, 3:55 AM

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ya, the first one looks to have a faster recoil and a slower "re-aim"

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is that right?

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The pointy muzzleflash does not look that good though.

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 4:00 AM

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I'd say, make the muzzle flash the size of the gun.

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Or atleast 2/3s the size.

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Should look a bit like an explosion, because that's what a muzzle flash is.

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@wary zealot You're Brawler mod has been lookin really good so far.

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 4:02 AM

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Thanks!

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 4:03 AM

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I must say, you really have a good sense of gamefeel.

royal wave Oct 25, 2017, 4:11 AM

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At the scale it doesn't work that well

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when applied as an animation in doom, it looks much better

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 4:15 AM

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Being honest, the older animations looked better

royal wave Oct 25, 2017, 4:20 AM

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I know :<

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I have to rework these so they don't get nit picked to hell

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 4:23 AM

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I don't think you've met the internet

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Things get nit picked to the deepest pits/circles of hell/tartarus/oblivion before they're even created

royal wave Oct 25, 2017, 4:45 AM

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I mean really dumb nit picks

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have you seen the TF2 reload animations?

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That's the sort of shit I'm avoiding

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 4:57 AM

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TF2's reload animations have been really iffy over the last couple of years.

royal wave Oct 25, 2017, 7:12 AM

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📎 pistol.gif

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 7:22 AM

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smooth

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the shading reminds me of another world

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imo there should be some slight downward motion from the gun hand when inserting the clip

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atm its like straight diagonal up from the left hand

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 7:30 AM

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Yeah, it does sorta have that Another World/polygon vector generated vibe.

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 7:31 AM

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just needs the rotoscoping to go along with it

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 7:32 AM

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Only a few bits of Another World were rotoscoped though, atleast acoarding to Eric Chahi's post mortem.

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Either that or I misheard it.

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 7:32 AM

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sure, most of the basic player movement

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and in cutscenes

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 7:35 AM

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@royal wave This is a good video about the subject of animation and such https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn5OB12u8Pw

YouTube

Mickey Mouse

"The Illusion Of Life" by Cento Lodigiani | Disney Favorite

Cento Lodigiani illustrates the 12 principles of animation, originally developed by Frank Thomas and Ollie Jonhston in "The Illusion of Life." SUBSCRIBE to g...

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About the 12 basic principles that some people from Disney wrote down.

uneven quiver Oct 25, 2017, 12:22 PM

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@royal wave looking pretty good

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 4:19 PM

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So, I can't show footage right now because I'm doing RL stuff, but the way the combo system works in my brawler mod is this. Doing "special" punches gets you combo points. Special punches include the charge punch, the dodge punch, the one-two combo, and kick combinations. These points are reset when you stop chaining attacks together, or in other words, when your fists enter their "ready" state.

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Pressing your zoom key (I have it bound to q) will perform a special attack, which varies depending on your amount of combo points.

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Currently there's one special attack, its a bit of a joke move. You trigger it with just one combo point. Its basically the "Yes Man Kablaam" from God hand. Basically, its an extremely low damage punch with a massive windup. Plus, for the entire duration you're unable to move. But, if you hit an enemy with it, you get a big boost to your combo points.

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Like I said, its a joke move, but if you're ballsy it can be worth the massive risk.

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 5:25 PM

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Does that all sound good?

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 8:22 PM

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Sounds really good Samarai

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Just wish Weapons will get at least one special too

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 10:28 PM

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Weapons probably won't.

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Anyways, does anyone have any ideas for special attacks for the fists?

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 10:45 PM

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tickles

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 10:45 PM

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bird flipping

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laser nials

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*nails

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 10:49 PM

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Fist Of The North Star punches

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 10:50 PM

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punches.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 10:52 PM

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https://youtu.be/-kPII561-GY 2:00

YouTube

Kanji Kamisama

[Fist of the North Star] お前はもう死んでいる (You are already dead)

From episode 1 of Hokuto no Ken, otherwise known as Fist of the North Star. Details what exactly Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken is and has the first use of Kenshiro's...

▶ Play video

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 10:55 PM

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thank you captain explain the reference

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 10:56 PM

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I'll explain the reference if you say "cheerio" again

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 10:56 PM

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cheerio

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 10:57 PM

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Not u

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 10:57 PM

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Pip pip cheerio.

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 10:59 PM

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im at work you frankfurter

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also i ran out of weed

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:00 PM

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@lavish hollow I threw in a. Pip pip for free.

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Oh.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:00 PM

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I didn't ask for a pip pip, kiwi

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:07 PM

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Thanks for the suggestions, people, but I'm starting to have second thoughts about the mod and it's worrying me.

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I love melee mods but I don't know if there's much I can do with it to make it interesting.

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:08 PM

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@wary zealot make it weird and absurd.

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:08 PM

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Like God Hand?

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:09 PM

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That could be fun.

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Also, maybe make it really gorey.

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:10 PM

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I was thinking of that, but I'm lacking the needed sprites and I don't think I could edit them properly myself.

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:11 PM

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Maybe make it look like the Game another world, that could be fun aswell.

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:11 PM

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I think that's going a little far, but thansk?

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thanks*

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:12 PM

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True.

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:13 PM

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I guess I could TRY to edit together gore sprites myself, but they'd be pretty terribl.e

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:16 PM

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Another dumb idea could be the ability to throw Corpses at other enemies.

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:17 PM

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Eh, throws could be fun but super hard to implement, sorry.

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:18 PM

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Maybe glass bottles and knives that you can throw then?

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:18 PM

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Action Doom 2 intensifies

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:18 PM

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Sorry about dumping all of these ideas on you.

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:19 PM

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@lavish hollow isn't that done already tho

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granted it was different from Action Doom 1

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but

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:21 PM

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lolwut

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I'm saying it's similar to Action Doom 2

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:24 PM

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ugh

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now I got 3 mod ideas

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Doom Fortress Mann vs Demonn

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Medal of Honor esque mod

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and a survival horror esque mod

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:25 PM

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Stop making esque mods

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:25 PM

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well I'm not a good mod maker

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:25 PM

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Make a walking simulator.

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:25 PM

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and plus while GZDoom unlocked some restraints on the vanilla engine, you can't exactly make GTA in the DOOM engine

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:26 PM

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Don't have to be good to not make things that are esque

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And why would you want GTA in Doom

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:26 PM

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not my point

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point was game restraints or some shiet

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:26 PM

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With GZDoom that'd probably run worse than GTA 4

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:27 PM

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eh, I'm focusing on fixing up the sentry models anyway

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:27 PM

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Game limits aren't hindering the ideas you listed lmao

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:27 PM

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I don't understand why "make X existing game in doom" is so popular of an idea.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:28 PM

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"Medal of honor esque" WolfenDoom is basically that, and that isn't exactly limited, "survival horror esque" that's so vague I could list like 10 mods that do that lmao

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:29 PM

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~~Someone port Half Life 2 to Doom~~

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:29 PM

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I don't mean mods that are 'like' pre-existing games.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:29 PM

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@wary zealot I was saying that to Nick

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:29 PM

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I mean, quite literally, taking a game, and porting it to the zdoom engine and recreating it as closely as possible.

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Ah, alright.

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:29 PM

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Um, unloved, defragmentation, Total Chaos mordeth award edition.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:29 PM

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In some cases, I could understand doing that

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:30 PM

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Like, even though I hate it and its creator with a passion, at least Brutal Doom is unique.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:30 PM

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@prisma saddle solace dreams, too

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:31 PM

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Love it or hate it, you can’t deny BD really shook up the Doom modding community.

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:31 PM

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It did, but not really in a good way.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:32 PM

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It's still one of the most popular doom mods ever, even several years later

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:32 PM

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It's a good starter mod.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:32 PM

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Kevan actually once said he wanted to make a mod that would be a competitor to BD

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And I laughed so hard

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:32 PM

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It's what got me into Doom modding due to how easy it is to setup.

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:32 PM

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The issue with it, in my opinion, is the creator and the community treats it like it's the best way to play classic doom.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:32 PM

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Same, hatsu

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:33 PM

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Honestly, a mod "Like" Brutal Doom, but without the feature bloat and unoptimization and fatalities and all that crap, could be a lot of fun.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:33 PM

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@wary zealot the Creator? Are you sure? I've seen him play other mods before without complaint lol

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:33 PM

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~~The only way to play classic Doom is Smooth Doom~~

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~~and an HD sound mod~~

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:34 PM

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On skulltag

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:34 PM

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No, in DOSBox

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:34 PM

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I'm tempted to retool alot of the game to make it feel better.

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:34 PM

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DB or bust

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:34 PM

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386 or bust.

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 11:34 PM

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Unoptimization? , maybe from the V19 and before. Since the v20B you can play Slaughter maps with BD on a not very good Pc

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:35 PM

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Yeah, the latest version is optimized several times better

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:35 PM

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Yeah,

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:35 PM

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I should know, I've played it on several craptops

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:36 PM

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Even if SGT Mark 4 pressed some other key instead of I or 1

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:36 PM

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Rofl

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:36 PM

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TWO YEARS AND IT ISN'T FIXED.

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I know V21 has it fixed, but he couldn't have bothered to just... release a hotfix?

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:37 PM

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Cuz he was busy making other mods

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:38 PM

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"Oh god, I'm so busy with the worst possible way to play DOOM64 I can't change a single 0.L to a 0.1..."

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:38 PM

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Worst out of like 3 ways

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:38 PM

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I’m thinking I should start over on a new mod, because I’m not even getting the motivation to continue developing Pyro’s Insanity.

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:39 PM

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what was Pyro's Insanity?

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:39 PM

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His mod

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:39 PM

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What's pyro's insanity? I'm curious.

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:39 PM

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Weapons mod

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 11:39 PM

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Good things requires time. Also, in years I never heard anyone claiming that BD is in any way like playing classic Doom. In any case say all the contrary, that is a different experience, and that's why is refreshing. But no one stops playing classic Doom for it

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:39 PM

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flame theme?

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:39 PM

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Nah, I just shat out the name when I couldn’t think of something lmfao

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:39 PM

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Featuring Pyro from TF2?

prisma saddle Oct 25, 2017, 11:39 PM

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@warped rampart make a walking simulator.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:39 PM

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@haughty flower he said people say it's the best way

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@prisma saddle NO WOKING SIMOLATERS

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:40 PM

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There was supposed to be a double-barrel autoshotty and a triple-barrel shotgun

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 11:40 PM

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make a simulation simulator

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:40 PM

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A double-barrel autoshotgun? Sounds fun!

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 11:40 PM

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@lavish hollow he said "best way to play classic Doom" , BD is precisely trying to change the "classic" formula

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:40 PM

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By classic doom,

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I don't mean vanilla doom.

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 11:41 PM

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No one on their right mind would call BD "Classic"

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:41 PM

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I mean that Mark is saying it's the best way to play a version of doom that isn't doom 3 or doom 2016.

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By classic I mean "it was released in nineteen ninety goddamn three"

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:41 PM

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I still don't know when he's ever said this

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:41 PM

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The first one, at least.

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I swear I remember seeing the moddb page describing it as the definitive way to play doom, but I think the page got changed or I'm misrembering something.

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:42 PM

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I know he doesn't like those, but I've never seen him say "BD is the best lul"

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:43 PM

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A lot of people have told me to make a Nerf mod for doom, and I do see how that could work, but I don’t think I could ever have the motivation to do that.

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 11:43 PM

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Maybe it was simply a Slogan to hype the presentation, I never saw him talk down Vanilla Doom or any other good mods

warped rampart Oct 25, 2017, 11:43 PM

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The way I see it, if I don’t have fun developing it and I don’t have motivation to develop it, it probably wouldn’t be fun for people to play.

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:44 PM

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FOUND IT.

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"Prepare to see the most disturbing, sadistic and morbid manifestation of violence that you ever seen in your life. This is the definitive gameplay enhancement mod for the GZDoom and Zandronum engines. Warning: After you see it, it cannot be unseen!"

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:44 PM

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There's already a Nerf Quake, so that'd be funny

wary zealot Oct 25, 2017, 11:44 PM

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"This is the definitive gameplay enhancement mod for the GZDoom and Zandronum engines."

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:44 PM

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And I'm having a PITA time trying to get the legs connected to one thing

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 11:45 PM

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As I said, just a slogan to hype the presentation, maybe you are taking promotions too serious

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:45 PM

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@vocal crypt the leg bone is connected to the hip bone

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:45 PM

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ugh

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it's MagicavOXEL

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smartass.

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 11:45 PM

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"It's a way to play doom that isn't doom"

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 11:46 PM

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Maybe one important factor that made BD famous is that he knows how to promote his stuff

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:46 PM

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also, line tool is shit for connecting two things together @lavish hollow

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 11:46 PM

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You dont make promotion by being Timid

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You need to hype your shit

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:46 PM

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I never hype my shit

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I just go "hnggg" and it's gone

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 11:47 PM

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wtf line tool

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:47 PM

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MagicaVoxel

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 11:47 PM

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wtf voxels

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:47 PM

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Cubes

haughty flower Oct 25, 2017, 11:47 PM

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I've had some that were like Dragon Ball Saiyan transformation but that's besides the point

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:47 PM

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Or 3D pixels if you like @light prism

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:47 PM

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it's for my Doom Fortress mod

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:48 PM

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Basically little cubes that you can make shit out of, like regular models but way easier

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:48 PM

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the sentries specifically

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I'm redoing them so they look better

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I'm going by the leg/quadpod thing

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Ze problem is zis crap

📎 Screenshot_377.png

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connecting the pods to one thing

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:50 PM

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Golly those are some... Unique legs

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 11:51 PM

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the problem is voxels

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make a model and then convert it to a voxel if you must

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:51 PM

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but I'm shit with modeling

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and Blender

lavish hollow Oct 25, 2017, 11:51 PM

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Nah, voxels are cool

light prism Oct 25, 2017, 11:52 PM

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apparently youre pretty shit at voxels too

vocal crypt Oct 25, 2017, 11:53 PM

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unless @prisma saddle wants to take a crack at it and make the mod not a one man stand thing

livid hearth Oct 26, 2017, 12:29 AM

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@vocal crypt Ever tried splitting the sentry turret into 2 actors?

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one stationary and one rotating

vocal crypt Oct 26, 2017, 12:30 AM

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not yet

livid hearth Oct 26, 2017, 12:31 AM

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I think it would help with the look of the turret

vocal crypt Oct 26, 2017, 12:31 AM

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wait, one actor with rotatin turret

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might need to remove teh wires

wary zealot Oct 26, 2017, 2:19 AM

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I'm wondering if weapon durability should be shown to the player or not. Like, if I should have a counter displaying how many more hits until the weapon breaks.

lavish hollow Oct 26, 2017, 2:20 AM

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I know I keep saying it, but Action Doom 2 did that, maybe try looking into that mod for inspiration?

toxic terrace Oct 26, 2017, 2:26 AM

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Is there any reason why Action Doom 2 is a whole lot different than Action Doom 1?

lavish hollow Oct 26, 2017, 2:35 AM

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Just different ideas and stuff, AD was inspired by Metal Slug-type games, while AD 2 was inspired by beat-em ups

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Maybe if there was an Action Doom 3, it could be a lightgun shooter or something lmao

light prism Oct 26, 2017, 2:36 AM

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entirely different resources

vocal crypt Oct 26, 2017, 2:36 AM

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@lavish hollow isn't Scuba not in Doom modding anymore

lavish hollow Oct 26, 2017, 2:36 AM

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Nope

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Action Doom is like 10 years old iirc

vocal crypt Oct 26, 2017, 2:36 AM

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wasn't it a 2004 release?

lavish hollow Oct 26, 2017, 2:37 AM

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Around there, yeah

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I swear, Action Doom 2 may not be amazing, but it has the best cameo of a developer I have ever seen in a game

light prism Oct 26, 2017, 2:51 AM

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I just swear.

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Fuck! Shit!

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Aaaaaaasssssss!

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What were they theeeenkeeeeeeng!

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@wary zealot - Instead of displaying durability as a number or bar, have it change the nametag of the weapon actor

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"Bent pipe" "Cracked pool cue"

lavish hollow Oct 26, 2017, 2:55 AM

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Straight pipe

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Gay pipe

light prism Oct 26, 2017, 2:57 AM

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damaged anus

lavish hollow Oct 26, 2017, 2:57 AM

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Wiiiiide anus

toxic terrace Oct 26, 2017, 3:05 AM

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Action Doom 1 was released in 2003?

light prism Oct 26, 2017, 3:11 AM

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i dont know why dont you ask google

toxic terrace Oct 26, 2017, 3:16 AM

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Well, because I know already.

light prism Oct 26, 2017, 3:34 AM

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i dont know that you know

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because you ended the sentence in a fucking question mark

toxic terrace Oct 26, 2017, 4:17 AM

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Beats me.

lavish hollow Oct 26, 2017, 4:17 AM

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beats

toxic terrace Oct 26, 2017, 4:18 AM

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I didn't know Doom existed back in 2003.

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 6:54 PM

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@toxic terrace ???

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Doom was made in 1993

toxic terrace Oct 26, 2017, 6:55 PM

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Yes, but not when I was younger.

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 6:55 PM

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?

toxic terrace Oct 26, 2017, 6:55 PM

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I knew Doom since 2007.

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 6:55 PM

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"I didn't know Doom existed back in 2003."

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still, you should know the release date

toxic terrace Oct 26, 2017, 6:56 PM

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December 10, 1993 of course.

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Was born five years later.

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 6:56 PM

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ah

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@unreal oyster looks like something i'd definitely play lmao

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right channel?

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 6:56 PM

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yeah

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i posted it in #showroom-archive, which doesn't allow discussion

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 6:57 PM

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ah, okay

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you have any idea on how to help me out with this doom2 problem?

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i can try and uninstall

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 6:57 PM

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lazor: bring a joystick with you for your own sake 😛

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 6:57 PM

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the doom on steam?

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 6:57 PM

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honestly i'm not really sure :/

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it's never been a problem for me

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maybe just use the command line to select the iwad manually

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like

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gzdoom.exe -iwad myGame.ipk3

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 6:58 PM

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what more should I add into the ipk3?

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oh god no thanks
screw joysticks

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i'm gonna play it in the worst way possible

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if i can

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?????

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unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:00 PM

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okay that's really weird

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:00 PM

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can i try to use qzdoom

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it might be a problem with this gzdoom build

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:00 PM

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qzdoom will probably have the same issue, they're mostly in sync code-wise right now

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actually maybe try gzdoom.exe -iwad xplodr, you might not need the extension

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kinda grasping at straws here, but it's worth a try

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:01 PM

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i'll try qzdoom too

plush sapphire Oct 26, 2017, 7:02 PM

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@haughty flower The worst way possible? No joysticks? 🤔

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Steering wheel!

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:02 PM

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don't have that

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just gotta stay with kb+mouse then

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:02 PM

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oh btw just saying, don't expect this to turn into anything 😛

plush sapphire Oct 26, 2017, 7:02 PM

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How about a guitar?

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:02 PM

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wHaT NO

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:03 PM

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the doom map format is fairly shit for descent style maps

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:03 PM

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i don't have a guitar either tho

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atari joystick

plush sapphire Oct 26, 2017, 7:03 PM

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Damn

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:03 PM

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launchpad?

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DOOM ON A LAUNCHPAD

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YES

plush sapphire Oct 26, 2017, 7:03 PM

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That track and field floor mat thing.

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:03 PM

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i'm mostly doing this to test my Quaternion class

plush sapphire Oct 26, 2017, 7:03 PM

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For NES

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Houston, no joysticks or that would've been what I said first.

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:03 PM

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WHAT THE WHAT

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even qzdoom does this

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wait, let me uninstall doom ii on steam

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:04 PM

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an atari joystick isn't the type i was talking about, i'd say it's fair game as a joke input method 😛

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i was talking about an actual flight sim joystick

shadow bone Oct 26, 2017, 7:04 PM

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That shouldn't be necessary, but I'm not sure why it seems to be hardcoded outside the INI to look in the steam folder

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:04 PM

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the type that makes descent bearable

light prism Oct 26, 2017, 7:05 PM

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has he tried holding shift when opening gzdoom

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:05 PM

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what about using one of those things you put on your brain and it reads your inputs

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translate them into WASD and mouse movements

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🤔

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:05 PM

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oh yeah try holding shift while opening it, that forces the iwad selection screen or something

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:06 PM

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ok, i've uninstalled doom on steam

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now i'll hold shift and open it

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???

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light prism Oct 26, 2017, 7:06 PM

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how are you running gzdoom

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a shortcut icon?

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:06 PM

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a bat

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qzdoom.exe -iwad xplodr.ipk3

light prism Oct 26, 2017, 7:06 PM

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you probably have more than one location for it

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and its pointing to the wrong one

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:06 PM

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i don't think qzdoom's been updated to have the ipk3 system

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not on the stable builds anyway

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yeah the last qzdoom stable build is months old

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so try it with gzdoom

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:08 PM

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gzdoom

shadow bone Oct 26, 2017, 7:08 PM

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Cat, He's trying to make a standalone .ipk3 and a fresh GZDoom apparently keeps autoloading the steam version instead.

light prism Oct 26, 2017, 7:08 PM

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yeah i have been reading

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:08 PM

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nvm

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also i deleted steam vrsion and it doest looad it anymore

#

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OWO

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📎 unknown.png

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oh yeah, i don't have any textures or anything

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just PLAYPAL and IWADINFO

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📎 unknown.png

light prism Oct 26, 2017, 7:09 PM

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eyeball error

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:09 PM

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menu looks like this

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what files do i need now

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:09 PM

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M_LOADG, M_SAVEG, etc., all those textures

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:09 PM

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confirmed: console works

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confirmed: doesn't understand dog

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is there a way to add console commands

light prism Oct 26, 2017, 7:10 PM

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captain, we are reaching one screenshot per post

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:10 PM

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actually adding new console commands, you'd need to edit the gzdoom source code

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:10 PM

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oh

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i wanted to only do it for making a dog console command

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so whatever

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:10 PM

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for just making shortcuts to other commands, you can use the alias command

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:10 PM

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oh

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alias dog "echo Woof!"

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:11 PM

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alias dog "summonfriend mbfhelperdog"

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:12 PM

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alias dog "summonfriend mbfhelperdog; echo Woof!"

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is that how multiple commands work

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in HL1 it works like that

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blah; wait 5; blah2

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:12 PM

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works like that in gzdoom too

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:12 PM

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alright

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how do i add the alias

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autoexec.cfg?

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:12 PM

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just type it into the console

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:12 PM

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so it saves?

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i want it to be on all copies of the game thing

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:13 PM

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it'll remember it in the gzdoom-user.ini file

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so if you need it on all copies, just stick it in there

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i guess

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oh wait no

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:13 PM

#

what

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userconfig.cfg like in HL1?

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:14 PM

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autoexec.cfg should work actually

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:14 PM

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does autoexec.cfg use //

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so i can do

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alias dog "summonfriend mbfhelperdog; echo Woof!" // Summon dog, joke command

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:15 PM

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not entirely sure

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try it

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:15 PM

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wait

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can i just grab the M_LOADG and stuff off doom2.wad

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for now

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:15 PM

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sure

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i assume you understand that you'll need to replace it eventually though, heh

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:15 PM

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i'll use the doom shareware wad because i just uninstalled doom2 off steam

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yeah

#

also

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the options are hardcoded?

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:16 PM

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you mean the option menu? kiiiiinda

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:16 PM

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no

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the main menu

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:16 PM

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oh nah the main menu is editable

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in menudef

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:17 PM

#

doom
1993
can edit menu in the GZDoom sourceport

half life
1998
can't edit menu in the Xash3D sourceport without rebuilding whole engine

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beautiful

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:18 PM

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the options menu is kinda hardcoded, there was a big stink about it where people were replacing the option menu outright in older mods, which caused issues where newer options were completely absent if you played with some mods

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so now you can only add stuff to the options menu

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you can't replace it outright

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which is probably ok

#

most of the stuff in the options menu is reasonable, like video settings

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:19 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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i shoved all of the M_ graphics into the .ipk3

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but when loading it, they still dont load

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:19 PM

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you need to put them in a folder called graphics

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:19 PM

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script error, blahblah unknown texture

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oh

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can i get a list of the folders pk3 uses

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:20 PM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Using_ZIPs_as_WAD_replacement

Using ZIPs as WAD replacement

haughty flower Oct 26, 2017, 7:20 PM

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thanks

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heyy

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since it's GZDoom i can also import PNGs and they'll work, right?

unreal oyster Oct 26, 2017, 7:23 PM

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yea

haughty flower Oct 27, 2017, 12:47 AM

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Tile Doom is best Doom

vocal crypt Oct 27, 2017, 12:47 AM

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nah

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TI-83/TI-84 is best Doom

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yes that legit exists

haughty flower Oct 27, 2017, 12:49 AM

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that's the only reason why you buy those in the first place

vocal crypt Oct 27, 2017, 12:50 AM

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no, it's because TI is an asshole with education

prisma saddle Oct 27, 2017, 3:17 AM

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@wary zealot I see you ported the axe from Downsize over two your brawler.

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Well, in terms of animation.

wary zealot Oct 27, 2017, 3:17 AM

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Well, the sprites, yeah.

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Yeah.

wary zealot Oct 27, 2017, 4:35 AM

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How can I disable forceclamp on players?

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Like, for pitch.

light prism Oct 27, 2017, 5:44 AM

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you cant aaaahahahahaaaaaa

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tell people to play in gl

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have you ever seen extreme y shearing?

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its not pretty

wary zealot Oct 27, 2017, 6:55 AM

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I'm thinking of making a thread for the in development brawling mod I'm making on the zdoom forums. Are you allowed to make a thread if you're still developing the mod and haven't released it? Just so I have a place to post information.

light prism Oct 27, 2017, 7:14 AM

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yes, there is a thread for in progress work

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if you want to create your own thread, just check the rules on there

wary zealot Oct 27, 2017, 7:44 AM

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Thanks.

haughty flower Oct 27, 2017, 9:00 AM

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a few questions

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what's this mean?

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this is how it appears in the map

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and, how do i make a proper hud?

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and another question, how come this dog's sprite exists

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oh fuck

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guys...

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unreal oyster Oct 27, 2017, 9:20 AM

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@haughty flower that dog sprite is from the gzdoom.pk3 file, Nash on the zdoom forums made it to replace the old dog sprite (which was the wolfenstein 3d dog)

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and the reason that you get the exclamation mark is because the shotgun guy's sprites are missing

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those are from DOOM(2).WAD

haughty flower Oct 27, 2017, 9:21 AM

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also that's the shotgun, not shotgun guy

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i have this

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unreal oyster Oct 27, 2017, 9:22 AM

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oh right

haughty flower Oct 27, 2017, 9:22 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

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and i have the shotgun sprites

#

📎 unknown.png

unreal oyster Oct 27, 2017, 9:25 AM

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are they in the sprites folder?

haughty flower Oct 27, 2017, 9:26 AM

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graphics/

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does it need to be sprites/

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also, what's the difference between gzdoom dog and wolfenstein dog

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by the way, how would i make a hud

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oh

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i fixed the shotgun thing

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but what's the sprite for the smoke/decal it makes on the wall when shooting

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so i can make one

unreal oyster Oct 27, 2017, 9:34 AM

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PUFF A, B, C and D

haughty flower Oct 27, 2017, 9:51 AM

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doesn't gzdoom use a custom decal too

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for bullet holes

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also, @unreal oyster (sorry for the mention), but how would I make a HUD? or, at least a proper one, since my current HUD is this:

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📎 unknown.png

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also, why does my main menu music keep playing after i've entered a new map?

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and what's the file that causes "D_RUNNING" to play on map01

unreal oyster Oct 27, 2017, 10:04 AM

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you use SBARINFO (or ZScript, but that's harder) to make a HUD

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MAPINFO controls the music which plays on maps

haughty flower Oct 27, 2017, 10:06 AM

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kk thanks

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but wait

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why does my main menu music keep playing instead of pausing when i enter map01

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also sbarinfo is fucking hard, there's not even an example

torn timber Oct 27, 2017, 11:02 AM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Default_status_bars

Default status bars

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@haughty flower the examples were at the bottom of the SBARINFO wiki page

haughty flower Oct 27, 2017, 3:32 PM

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thanks

royal wave Oct 28, 2017, 2:32 AM

#

📎 Screenshot_2017-10-27_12.16.08.png

vocal crypt Oct 28, 2017, 2:34 AM

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Well now I know how to make skill levels

royal wave Oct 28, 2017, 2:35 AM

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make sure to call the clearskills command beforehand

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doesn't need to be in a block or anything, just has to come before you define new skills

vocal crypt Oct 28, 2017, 2:36 AM

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I doubt it'll work for invasions tho tbf

#

Also, spawnfilter?

royal wave Oct 28, 2017, 2:37 AM

#

So you know in doom builder how you can set which skills enemies appear in?

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spawnfilter instructs doom that any enemy higher than what's defined will not appear

vocal crypt Oct 28, 2017, 2:38 AM

#

But since there's no difficulty beyond nightmare it's every difficulty?

royal wave Oct 28, 2017, 2:38 AM

#

UDMF offers up to 16 difficulties

vocal crypt Oct 28, 2017, 2:38 AM

#

Oh

#

Til

royal wave Oct 28, 2017, 2:39 AM

#

you can also use numbers instead

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/MAPINFO/Skill_definition

Skill definition

wary zealot Oct 28, 2017, 4:55 AM

#

Hey, guys, I need help on making a tough decision about my brawler mod.

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Anyone there?

royal wave Oct 28, 2017, 5:33 AM

#

what's up

wary zealot Oct 28, 2017, 5:59 AM

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Ah, hey.

#

Sorry, so.

#

I'm thinking of removing melee weapons and just having the close-up combat be entirely fist-based.

#

Other weapons WILL exist, because ranged weapons are required in some areas of doom, but they'll be limited.

royal wave Oct 28, 2017, 6:26 AM

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okay

wary zealot Oct 28, 2017, 6:40 AM

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I mean, like, what's your opinion on that?

#

Is that a good or bad idea?

royal wave Oct 28, 2017, 6:45 AM

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I wouldn't know, I'm not familiar with your mod and how it plays

livid hearth Oct 28, 2017, 7:14 AM

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I am not sure

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most brawler uses weapons as temp items

subtle glacier Oct 28, 2017, 7:35 AM

#

Kinda new to modding doom, does anyone know if compiling using the latest ACC will work with GZDoom?

livid hearth Oct 28, 2017, 7:41 AM

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it should

light prism Oct 28, 2017, 7:55 AM

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yes

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what else would it even be for? heh

uneven quiver Oct 28, 2017, 4:44 PM

#

can someone tell me how long does it take for the super shotgun to reload? Like, the reload animation time

unreal oyster Oct 28, 2017, 4:47 PM

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it's basically 1.5 seconds

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    Fire:
        SHT2 A 3;
        SHT2 A 7 A_FireShotgun2;
        SHT2 B 7;
        SHT2 C 7 A_CheckReload;
        SHT2 D 7 A_OpenShotgun2;
        SHT2 E 7;
        SHT2 F 7 A_LoadShotgun2;
        SHT2 G 6;
        SHT2 H 6 A_CloseShotgun2;
        SHT2 A 5 A_ReFire;
        Goto Ready;

that's the zdoom definition

uneven quiver Oct 28, 2017, 4:48 PM

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that's a lot, thanks

unreal oyster Oct 28, 2017, 4:48 PM

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so 52 ticks, depending on what you consider the reloading part

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and in doom a tick is 1/35th of a second

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hence 52/35 seconds

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if you're talking about a total loop from gun flash to next gun flash, though, it's kinda 55/35

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or 1.57

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shouldn't make a massive amount of difference though

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for reference, SHT2 A 7 A_FireShotgun2; is the line where the fire effect is shown

uneven quiver Oct 28, 2017, 4:50 PM

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0.05 is noticeable but still ok

unreal oyster Oct 28, 2017, 4:50 PM

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if the player holds down click at SHT2 A 5 A_ReFire; it loops back to the start of the sequence

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in which case there's a 3 tick delay before it fires again

uneven quiver Oct 28, 2017, 4:53 PM

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that's a lot of info, really appreciate it 😃

livid hearth Oct 28, 2017, 10:36 PM

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Actually it's 57 tics