#classic-doom-maps-mods | DOOM | Page 63

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 5:35 AM

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apparently discords cock blocker is blocking my sculpt screenshot

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i guess it is vaguely penis like?

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ill make it blue, maybe

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📎 unknown.png

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the skin tone must have been making it assume it was nudes or cock

dusk flare Oct 16, 2017, 5:37 AM

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🅱enis arm?

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 5:38 AM

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i was thinking more the head dome

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probs thought it was a glans

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esp. cos i had flesh tone clay preview

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and i had it turned more to the side

dusk flare Oct 16, 2017, 5:39 AM

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It looks kinda like that

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And the neckless torso doesn't help much

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lmao

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 5:39 AM

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the neck is under all the collar piping and shit

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like, all you would see of the person inside is the top of their head, eyes and top of nose

dusk flare Oct 16, 2017, 5:42 AM

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True, always wear protection

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I'm sorry

livid hearth Oct 16, 2017, 5:44 AM

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I am thinking of splitting this into 3 parts as a resource for mappers to use, any thoughts? https://www.dropbox.com/s/yd1crqzotz5k8vp/Indra Tales 6 ~Lost Innocence~.mp3?dl=0

Dropbox

Indra Tales 6 ~Lost Innocence~.mp3

Shared with Dropbox

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 6:42 AM

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sure i guess

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imo its not particularly doomy

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more like jrpg battle or something

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it has that chugga chugga progression going

haughty flower Oct 16, 2017, 7:51 AM

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yeah it sounds like Lufia

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or mystic quest. good soundtracks imo

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i'm sysadmin for a site called vgmusic so sometimes I just sit around listening to game music all day

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 7:58 AM

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oh?

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📎 mrcat-epilogue.ogg

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:3

livid hearth Oct 16, 2017, 9:09 AM

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Yeah my stuff is inspired by jrpgs and metal

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 9:29 AM

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📎 unknown.png

red peak Oct 16, 2017, 9:43 AM

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You could make cool sprites out of that model.

livid hearth Oct 16, 2017, 10:08 AM

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This looks cool

royal wave Oct 16, 2017, 6:26 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJGdaOQxlA4

YouTube

[senpai] Kevans

Pistol test 3

▶ Play video

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 7:57 PM

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i like the smoothness and shading, reload feels a bit stiff though

uneven quiver Oct 16, 2017, 8:47 PM

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is this the place to post games we developed? Or just mods and maps?

lavish hollow Oct 16, 2017, 8:48 PM

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I think it's just mods and maps, but if you need help with coding, you can still ask here

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 8:48 PM

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its a magical place

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why is scp176 wallhumping in the corner kev

uneven quiver Oct 16, 2017, 8:49 PM

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I'm making my own FPS, just wanted some feedback

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 8:49 PM

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oh, youre the FISH guy, right

uneven quiver Oct 16, 2017, 8:49 PM

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yes 😃

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 8:51 PM

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I've got bigger FISH to fry

uneven quiver Oct 16, 2017, 8:51 PM

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how do you hold a frying pan with paws MisterCat?

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 8:51 PM

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the same way i type with boxing gloves

lavish hollow Oct 16, 2017, 8:52 PM

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Very carefully?

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 8:52 PM

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with boxing gloves

uneven quiver Oct 16, 2017, 8:53 PM

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well, I posted it on showroom but got kinda ignored... really wanted some feedback since classic doom players are who I am aiming it at

lavish hollow Oct 16, 2017, 8:53 PM

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It looks decent to me

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 8:53 PM

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📎 unknown.png

uneven quiver Oct 16, 2017, 8:54 PM

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I guess that's something...

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 8:55 PM

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it looks mspainty

uneven quiver Oct 16, 2017, 8:57 PM

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it does indeed

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art is not my strength

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 9:26 PM

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thats about all i remember

uneven quiver Oct 16, 2017, 9:27 PM

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that was helpful already, thanks

wary zealot Oct 16, 2017, 10:51 PM

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Hey, I need help with something that isn't working for seemingly no reason.

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But I probably fucked up, somehow.

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ACTOR AssaultAmmoSpawner
{
States
{
Spawn:
TNT1 A 1 A_SpawnitemEX("5.56Magazine",0,0,0,5,0,-3,random(-90,90),SXF_Nocheckposition,200)
TNT1 A 1
TNT1 A 1 A_SpawnItemEX(40MMBuck,0,0,0,5,0,-3,random(-90,90),SXF_Nocheckposition,200)
Stop
}
}

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This is what a spawner thing I have looks like, in terms of code.

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However, despite being told to spawn two items, it only spawns one, the one that comes last.

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So if I put the 40mm buck at the beginning with the magazine at the end, it spawns the magazine but not the buck.

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It's supposed to spawn the magazine with a chance of spawning the buck.

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 10:54 PM

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uh

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40mmbuck is missing quotes, dunno if thats necessary

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possibly

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also try adding an extra empty frame before Stop

wary zealot Oct 16, 2017, 10:55 PM

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No, it already spawns the buckshot so it isn't a problem.

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Okay.

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No luck.

light prism Oct 16, 2017, 10:55 PM

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im going to lunch

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oh

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oh uhhhh

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add an extra frame at the START of Spawn:

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actors can't run functions on their first frame of existence

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unless you either add an empty frame or if you add the NoDelay keyword to the first frame

wary zealot Oct 16, 2017, 10:56 PM

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Aaah, okay.

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THANK YOU.

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That fixed it.

royal wave Oct 16, 2017, 11:36 PM

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Just to clarify for everyone here, we do allow any sort of game development here. But we also ask that if it's not doom related, don't spam it all the time here either

uneven quiver Oct 16, 2017, 11:39 PM

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ok

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so, for everyone that doesn't know, I'm making this: https://8ah.itch.io/fish-demo
I guess it's doom related

itch.io

FISH (Demo for Crowdfunding) by 8ah

An old-school Fish Person Shooter

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 12:04 AM

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dont worry tuba

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its really hard to get criticism out of anyone

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also im at work so i cant look into it further

royal wave Oct 17, 2017, 12:54 AM

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Dude that's pretty legit that's you

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Hang on let me give you something

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@Tuba#4201 do you plan on hanging out here for awhile?

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@Tuba#4201

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Damn it discord

uneven quiver Oct 17, 2017, 1:10 AM

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yes I play to stay here

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ops, plan to

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 1:19 AM

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@royal wave

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 1:37 AM

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Because I can't find any good sprites for doomguy's arms throwing something, I'm going to see if I can make the animation look like you're kicking the grenades to propel them.

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As a joke.

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Or placeholder.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 1:55 AM

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~~try stealing from Brutal Doom ~~

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Also hi @uneven quiver

uneven quiver Oct 17, 2017, 1:55 AM

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hi

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 1:56 AM

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Your game looks interesting

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but I think it could be improved if the textures have a bit of a gritty noise to them

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just so they don't look so flat

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Oh yeah, viewport effects for gun recoil and hookshots would add to the satisfaction

uneven quiver Oct 17, 2017, 1:58 AM

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changing the fov?

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 1:58 AM

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yeah

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like a quick zoom out/zoom in thing would help for a punchy feel

uneven quiver Oct 17, 2017, 1:59 AM

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I think there's some but not much

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gonna make some tests with more EXTREME changes

shadow bone Oct 17, 2017, 2:10 AM

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Modder role given, Tuba 👍

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Sorry, gamedev, I misread

uneven quiver Oct 17, 2017, 2:12 AM

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hey, thanks

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 2:14 AM

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sweet

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Hey

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Can someone do me a favour?

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https://mega.nz/#!6YNR1ThS!N7pBXD98JArjGnRzHx7wCDrNgHzwDcqaJpubz77_kE0

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Can someone run this on GZDoom and Zandronum, and try to break it as much as possible and report any bugs found?

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 2:15 AM

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ew mega 😦

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im at work

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 2:17 AM

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What mod is it? I'll be glad to check it as long as I know what I'm getting into

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 2:19 AM

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My continuation of the Quake Stuff Ultra mod by Horror Movie Guy, done with his blessing

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 2:19 AM

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Gotchu. Want me to use cheats and stuff to test everything?

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 2:20 AM

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fixed up the weapons codebase, added some features, namely for the thunderbolt and mjolnir, merged the weapons that have alt ammo types, some bug fixes too

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Cheats work, but I'd also like so hear some balance feedback, like for progression and acquisition of weapons

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 2:20 AM

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I'll try both

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 2:21 AM

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I've made some experimental changes like moving the Mine Launcher drop to the Super Shotgun replacement random spawner along with the SSG itself

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so the SSG may spawn the quake SSG or the Mine launcher

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Taking advantage of how the Ogres replace the heavy gunners, and drop rockets instead of chainguns/bullet ammo

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I also made miniboss variants of vertain monsters, since they ended up being a lot weaker than the doom monster they're supposed to replace

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So you may find miniboss variants of the scrag, the vore and the guardians

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 2:32 AM

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heh, vore.

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Sorry, nobody's going to get that.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 2:33 AM

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I did

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 2:33 AM

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I did

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Their other name is Shalrath or something

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 2:59 AM

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vertain vores

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:03 AM

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Hey, is it possible to make it so a_custombulletattack fires its bullets in a 360 degree radius, not just in front of itself?

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I want to simulate grenade shrapnel.

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:05 AM

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That'd be better to do with a FastProjectile, I would think

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:06 AM

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Dang.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:07 AM

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I think you can use User_Vars on the projectile actor to optimize the decorate code for the shrapnel effect

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:07 AM

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Maybe I could do it in a really hacky way...? Like, have a custom bullet attack for one side, then have a one tic A_SetAngle(angle+180) to turn it around and then have another custom bullet attack.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:08 AM

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Hmm actually

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_Explode

A Explode

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A_Explode has nail damage and nail number params

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:09 AM

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Oh shit, thanks!

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Question, in an area where I'm supposed to put flags, what can I put to single I want to put no flags and move on to the next integer?

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:11 AM

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Use a Pipe

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:11 AM

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Pipe?

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:11 AM

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so XF_HurtSource|XF_ExplicitDamageType

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or something like that

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:12 AM

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Says it's an unexpected token.

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I mean that I want no flags in that spot, not more than one.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:13 AM

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Ahh

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just put a 0

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the flags are just a series of bitmasks, so 0 is just assumed as "set no flags"

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:13 AM

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I see.

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Dangit, the nails work, but they all fire horizontally with no variation on the Z axis.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:14 AM

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you probably will wanna put in a 1, just in case

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because normally you'd want an explosive to hurt the shooter

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:15 AM

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Eh, it'll have to do.

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Thank you, anyways.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:16 AM

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yw

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yeah if you want a z axis variation, you'd have to do a lot more

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:16 AM

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Ah.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:17 AM

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That param assumes vanilla doom behaviour where it vertically autoaims to hit a target if the angle matches closely enough

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:20 AM

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Okay, I managed to do something super hacky and janky but it works.

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An experienced coder is going to look at my mod and vomit

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It's going to make wildweasel cry

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TNT1 A 0 A_Quake(5,70,0,200,"dsempty")
TNT1 A 0 A_CustomBulletAttack(900,900,5,10,"9MMPuff")
TNT1 A 1 A_SetAngle(angle+90)
TNT1 A 0 A_CustomBulletAttack(900,900,5,10,"9MMPuff")
TNT1 A 1 A_SetAngle(angle+90)
TNT1 A 0 A_CustomBulletAttack(900,900,5,10,"9MMPuff")
TNT1 A 1 A_SetAngle(angle+90)
TNT1 A 0 A_CustomBulletAttack(900,900,5,10,"9MMPuff")
TNT1 A 1 A_SetAngle(angle+90)
MISL BCD 2 A_Explode(100,60)

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Basically, it does a custom bullet attack, rotates 90 degrees, then does that again 3 more times, then stops.

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technically, it does what I wanted to do.

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just in a super roundabout, weird way.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:21 AM

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Is this supposed to be a grenade launcher ?

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:21 AM

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No, it's the fragments from the grenade itself.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:22 AM

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I mean what are you trying to make?

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What gun is gonna fire this?

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:22 AM

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It's going to be a throwable grenade.

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 3:22 AM

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it's from the death state of a projectile

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:22 AM

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Well, "throwable".

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Yeah.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:23 AM

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Ahh

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 3:23 AM

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you might want to use A_SpawnItemEx or A_SpawnProjectile rather than A_CustomBulletAttack for shards/nails

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or there is a custom 'nail' mode for A_Explode

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:23 AM

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There is a custom nail mode for A_explode, but it doesn't do what I want.

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It spawns the nails in a ring, instead of randomly, like shrapnel.

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 3:24 AM

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ok, use A_SpawnItemEx then

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:26 AM

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Okay, I will. My hacky method doesn't work as intended, dang.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:27 AM

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Try A_CustomBulletAttack(Random(-180,180),Random(-90,90),20,10,"9MMPuff",0,CBAF_AimFacing|CBAF_ExplicitAngle)

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:28 AM

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Nah, I think I'm better off using FastProjectiles.

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Thanks though.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:28 AM

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or it might be A_CustomBulletAttack(Random(-180.0,180.0),Random(-90.0,90.0),20,10,"9MMPuff",0,CBAF_AimFacing|CBAF_ExplicitAngle)

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That can work too

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that gives you more options

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:29 AM

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Is there an easy way to spawn 30 of something using one command or am I going to just have to duplicate the same line 30 times?

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:30 AM

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Use a loop with user variables

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:30 AM

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I don't know what that means, other than the loop bit. Would you mind explaining?

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Sorry.

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I'm very new to decorate, or any kind of programming.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:31 AM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_SetUserVar

A SetUserVar

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There is an example here of its useage

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which also shows the initialization of user vars

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 3:31 AM

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or

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oh, it counts as spam

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you can stack frames

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like POOP AAAA 0 A_SpawnItemEx("This"...)

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would spawnitemex 4 "This"es

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so you if you did thirty A's....

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:33 AM

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That works too

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 3:34 AM

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it's a messy method but it doesnt require you to learn how uservars or using inventory items to count works

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:38 AM

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^

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"If it works, it's good enough." is usually the mantra when making mods for Doom

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 3:39 AM

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I guess.

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 3:40 AM

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"if it doesnt break in a future update"

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they really do try hard to preserve backwards compatibility

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but wormsdoom broke like a little bitch when zandro 1.0 released

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:41 AM

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@livid hearth in gzdoom 3.0 with your mod, the launcher that shoots the bouncy mines has kind of a glitch when you right click, it just disappears

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Idk if this is just me tho

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:42 AM

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I'll look into it

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you running this on its own?

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:42 AM

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Yes

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:43 AM

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I think i know what is happening

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it inherits the grenade launcher, but I forgot to neuter the alt fire state

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:43 AM

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And idk if "bouncy mines" helps, it's the red one

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And yeah that would make sense

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 3:43 AM

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home time :3

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:3 :3 :3 ;3 ;3

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:43 AM

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Homo time?

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:43 AM

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Thanks, I somehow completely missed that

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 3:43 AM

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gonna smoke a fuckin fatty

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puff puff pass

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:45 AM

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Also, holding the right click makes the Thunderbolt do part of an animation and then freeze @livid hearth

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:46 AM

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gotta investigate that lol

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:47 AM

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Loving this alt fire for the axe btw, not sure if that was already there tho lol

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:48 AM

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It was there for the original version, but it was a scripted series of action which felt took control away

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so I retooled it to make it so that you hold to charge and keep it there

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and release to release a powered up slash

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and I found out what was causing the Tbolt to animate wrongly

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I was using the wrong spriteset lmao

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:50 AM

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Speaking of that axe, I kinda feel that the alt fire is a tiny bit too strong, but I'm not sure

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:51 AM

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With or without the runeofblack?

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:51 AM

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Without

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I think

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:52 AM

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Ahh

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Yeah it does 40-120 damage

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should probably tone that down a little

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:54 AM

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It might be an ok balance cuz you need to get real close to the enemy to hit them, but omg it one shots the imp replacement guys (can't remember their names) and instantly gibs grunts and dogs

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:54 AM

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Enforcers

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:54 AM

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Thank you lol

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:54 AM

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I set that damage to guarantee gibbing for the zombies most of the time

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But I think it might be better to just set the average damage to 64 instead and give the zombie a weakness to the axe alt attack

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:55 AM

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Yeah, that'd be fine I think

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Anywhere between 60-80 or so

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Also it's not a bug, more a slight criticism, but both of the thunderbolt's sounds need some work

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The normal Tbolt sounds like it's farting, while the second bfg-ish Tbolt has almost no firing sound

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No offense, btw

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:59 AM

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The regular one is taken from Quake Epsilon, under the suggestion of a friend

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 3:59 AM

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Not trying to sound mean

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:59 AM

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Oh no it's fine

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I don't think all the quake epsilon sounds are that great TBH

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:00 AM

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It's actually more like a mouth fart, to be a little more accurate

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:00 AM

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I'll probably revert the tbolt lightning to its default sound

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and find something more powerful for the PBFG

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I never really liked how DoE did those sounds TBH

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This is all good feedback btw

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:01 AM

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I haven't played that one so idk how they sound

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And you're welcome

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:01 AM

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Exactly as you heard 😛

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I ported the sounds directly from Dissolution

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:03 AM

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I didn't know that one replaced sounds.... Kinda wanna play it slightly less now 😅

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:03 AM

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just for the secondary fire mode

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Quake by default doesn't have secondary fire modes

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DoE and SoA added those

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:04 AM

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Ohhh

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:04 AM

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DoE via alternate weapons that use different ammo

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and SoA with the Mjolnir that has a thunderblast alt

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:05 AM

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And btw, the weird triple barrel laser minigun or whatever, its sounds are a little too "star wars-y" if you catch my drift

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:05 AM

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Haha

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I know

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that was how it sounded in Scourge

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and it sounds so cheesy

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:06 AM

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It really sounds like it was a ripped turret sound from star wars battlefront or something

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:06 AM

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Yeah

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I guess I can't be lazy and just say that's how it is in the expansion and game

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because I already took liberties and fucked with the nailgun sounds

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:07 AM

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Btw, I do like those sounds, good job on those

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:07 AM

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ty

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:08 AM

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It's a little weird to me that the flame alt fires don't have a more fire-y sound

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:08 AM

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in my first test, i used the epsilon sounds straight from the mod pack, but i realized that it sounded too weak

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So i mixed back the old sounds, added some reverb effects

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:08 AM

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Hm, that's cool

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Also not really sure if you can fix this but several models are kinda fucked if you okay with a high FOV

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:10 AM

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The lava nailgun ammo is supposed to have a more faked flamelike sound with the after-fire hiss

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but I guess it's not really conveyed

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:10 AM

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The hiss works but it kinda doesn't fit the sound before it, if that makes sense

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:11 AM

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I might as well mix the hissy tail directly into the lava nailgun firing sounds

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and find a way to make it fit

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:11 AM

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Same with the super?

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:11 AM

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yes

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:11 AM

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Cuz that sounds like a pretty good solution imo

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:13 AM

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I'll take in the sound changes suggestions for the 1.3 release, and fix the bugs for the 1.2 final release

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Balance changes will also be done for the 1.2 release too

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:14 AM

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I gotta go to bed so I can't test until probably later tomorrow

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:16 AM

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That's cool

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thanks for the feedback

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before you go

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How do you feel about this sound?

📎 WEPLASE3.ogg

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it's a mix of the laser rifle sounds from Serious Sam Classic TFE and Serious Sam Classic TSE

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:19 AM

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I think it sounds pretty decent, still somewhat star wars-ish but I guess all lazers kinda are lol

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:19 AM

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yeah

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:19 AM

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I'd say use that instead unless you can find something better

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:19 AM

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I might as well

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 4:24 AM

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Listening to it again, yeah I'd say that sound would work pretty well

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 4:36 AM

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WRF_NoSecondary works well for neutering the alt fire of the mine launcher

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Imma use that

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 4:57 AM

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Alright, my mod's new version is released. Probably a bad idea to jump from version .11 to .15, but there's a good amount of new content.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 6:09 AM

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nice

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I like that you started simple, it's a great way to learn

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I tend to get overambitious

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 6:10 AM

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start simple, just like real life

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agoooooo! dribbles

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 7:02 AM

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Yeah, I started simple because I can't handle anything else.

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I'm in bed right now so I can't code, but I'm thinking up an idea for a custom powerup in my mod. Mainly just a test powerup to help me learn how to morph actors.

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I'm thinking the powerup would change the player to a class with a much slower speed, but extremely high health. And it would come with one weapon you could only use for its duration, a Vulcan mini/gatling gun. Honestly, I just want an excuse to use captain J's edited Vulcan sprites because they look so nice.

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📎 JBf9a.gif

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Look at em'! I really want to use them.

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I wonder if it's even possible to do a powerup like my idea with just decorate, I hope so.

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 7:40 AM

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i dunno about the way the ammo feed flaps about

prisma saddle Oct 17, 2017, 7:47 AM

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It certainly makes each shot feel punchy.

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 7:47 AM

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I'm personally okay with it, but maybe I can do some simple edits to remove the belt animation.

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I'm no spriter, or image manipulator, but it should be easy.

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Or maybe I could just use some other sprites for it, I don't know if I'm even going to actually do this.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 7:54 AM

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@wary zealot You should poke Eriance, or whatever name they go by these days if you could use sprites they've done for Eriguns or Stronghold

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They're pretty good and follow the doom style

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 8:01 AM

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oppa doom style

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trying to render flames, eck

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 8:45 AM

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📎 lostsoul.gif

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y/n

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 8:48 AM

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y

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 8:50 AM

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flame stuck at bottom

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of spine

red peak Oct 17, 2017, 9:32 AM

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Make one with an open mouth and a pain pose, and we could have a lost soul-type enemy.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 11:40 AM

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Does anyone know why the status bar does this when I go into the automap and stays this way?

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20171017_184921.png

haughty flower Oct 17, 2017, 1:06 PM

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resolution issues???

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 1:08 PM

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Sort of

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basically a 320x48 statusbar in a hud that is sized at 640x400

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 1:36 PM

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I figured it out

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it's an engine bug with GZDoom 3.x

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Somehow turning on the automap kills off the CompleteBorder True; option and never brings it back to the desired flag option

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this is a regression from zdoom 2.x

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Oh and I also managed to fix a bug I created with the Gremlin

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I forgot that player projectiles have +ThruSpecies on

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and if the gremlin is throwing the player's own projectiles back at them, well, you know what happens 🤣

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I also messed up the CustomBulletAttack code for the gremlin, which i fixed

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somehow the engine interprets flags as bitmasks, which gets converted to integer values without first checking if the value is attempted to be passed as a flag

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so i ended up with a bullet attack range of 2

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 2:06 PM

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There's a quake enemy called the gremlin??

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 2:27 PM

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yes, in Scourge of Armagon

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nasty buggers they are

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they are reskins of the fiend, but they have a very different behaviour

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they run up to you and try to steal your weapon to use against you

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the reason i never noticed this bug before is because...they usually don't live long enough to steal your weapon and use it against you

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In any case @lavish hollow I decided to keep my working copy separate from release-labeled pk3s

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/fzf4s6ts1bk5mb7/QStuff_UltraV2-Reloaded-CurrentBuild.pk3?dl=0

Dropbox

QStuff_UltraV2-Reloaded-CurrentBuild.pk3

Shared with Dropbox

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Here's the current build after one day of bug fixing

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I am not sure what to do to make the Gremlin an actual threat, because i always end up killing them by accident

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I pretty much have to spawn a gremlin and do nothing so he can take my guns and shoot me with them

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I am leaning on giving them a lot more health

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like from 100 to 175

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so they can at least survive the attempt at stealing guns

uneven quiver Oct 17, 2017, 2:57 PM

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never played Scourge of Armagon, worth it?

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:07 PM

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Yes

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get both expansions actually

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they both add a lot to the experience

uneven quiver Oct 17, 2017, 3:10 PM

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I have both, bought the whole quake pack on Steam. Gonna give them a shot

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 3:10 PM

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be sure to hunt down the redbook audio for those expansion packs

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they're worth it

uneven quiver Oct 17, 2017, 3:12 PM

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will do

steel kelp Oct 17, 2017, 6:56 PM

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i make a snapmap

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called "Persecusion infernal"

steel kelp Oct 17, 2017, 7:17 PM

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my steam nick name : stormAster720

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 8:04 PM

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i dont think you 'make' a snapmap

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you just assemble it

steel kelp Oct 17, 2017, 8:20 PM

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nope

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 8:20 PM

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What exactly are you saying "nope" to

steel kelp Oct 17, 2017, 8:27 PM

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I do not assemble it

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 8:28 PM

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You do

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That's what snapmap is

royal wave Oct 17, 2017, 9:08 PM

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Guys be easy on him. English isn't his first language

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 9:11 PM

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My first language was kn¥Ӈum∂k¥ so he has no excuses

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 9:12 PM

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my first language was babytalk

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 9:17 PM

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Really? Nobody thought to make a programming joke in here? :p

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 9:17 PM

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My first language was c basic

Are you happy

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 9:18 PM

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Yes

light prism Oct 17, 2017, 9:27 PM

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C Basic

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you mean like... pascal C?

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 10:31 PM

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Hey, is there a way to force a player to switch to a weapon upon picking it up?

lavish hollow Oct 17, 2017, 10:36 PM

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Isn't that a default option in doom?

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 10:36 PM

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It is.

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But I mean, there's a particular weapon I want the player to switch to upon picking it up regardless of the option.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 10:38 PM

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there is an ACS function that does that

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but I am not sure how to do it in decorate

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 10:38 PM

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damnit.

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Well, thanks anyways.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 10:40 PM

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Ohh there it is

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_SelectWeapon

A SelectWeapon

wary zealot Oct 17, 2017, 10:41 PM

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IT WORKS

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HOORAY!

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

livid hearth Oct 17, 2017, 10:41 PM

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yw

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I thought it only worked on weapons, but apparently it also works on inventory items

vocal crypt Oct 18, 2017, 12:35 AM

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I just came up with some unoriginal idea that's totally not Mann vs Machine from TF2 But with Doom Fortress

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either way it's just Doom Fortress but invasion gamemode with demons

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I'm an ambigious thinker I think

inner zealot Oct 18, 2017, 12:39 AM

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So

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Stronghold but coop

vocal crypt Oct 18, 2017, 12:40 AM

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I've not seen Stronghold

summer elm Oct 18, 2017, 1:23 AM

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hello

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 5:46 AM

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How can I detect when the player kills a monster in decorate?

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Not a specific monster, just any monster.

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 5:48 AM

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not super easy

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what is the intended result

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@wary zealot

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 5:50 AM

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ah.

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well, uh. The intended result is incrementing an inventory item every time the player kills an enemy.

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 5:52 AM

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well the one method i know is to have the dying monster, in its death state, give its target (the player probably) the counter item

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this does mean replacing every montsers death state though and is not ideal

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you can also assign a special to each spawned monster

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so if you just assigned them all an acs_execute(mycounterscript, 0, target id) kinda deal

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not sure if there is a generic way to do that though

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to be fair though, you could also just GetLevelInfo(LEVELINFO_KILLED_MONSTERS)

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however this would become complicated in multiplayer

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 5:54 AM

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dang.

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Well, I know nothing about ACS.

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So the ACS one is off the table for now, at least.

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 5:55 AM

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hold on

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let me read the fuckin' wiki

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ok so

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hold up

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is there some way to use super inheritance stuff to do this

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 5:58 AM

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Uh... probably?

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I don't know what super is.

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 6:00 AM

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so when you inherit, the states of the parent are available to the inheritor

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actor MyImp : DoomImp (doomimp is parent)

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actor DoomImp : SuperDoomImp

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superdoomimp can be accessed by MyImp

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so all of its states and shit are already implemented

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however you can override them

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by defining a new one

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so if you can set up a super base that has a state that does the required stuff for the death state (send a counter increase to the player)

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you can have the inheritors use that without having to redefine their own death states

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i think?

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Using_inheritance

Using inheritance

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uhh

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would this work

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{
    states
    {
        Death:
        TNT1 A 0 A_GiveToTarget("KillCounter", 1)
        goto Super::Death
    }
}```

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 6:30 AM

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@wary zealot

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 7:10 AM

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Oh, thanks!

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I abandoned the idea I was going to use that for, but thanks all the same.

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 7:12 AM

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sheesh...

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📎 1.gif

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 7:16 AM

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That's looking really good.

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 7:17 AM

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fanks

prisma saddle Oct 18, 2017, 7:22 AM

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@light prism what if you added a bone for the tail, and made it sway side to side in the idle.

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To sorta balance it out.

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 7:42 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLfSivmg6y0

YouTube

Rallinth

why the fuck did I do this

▶ Play video

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I don't know if I should keep this or not.

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The way the powerup changes gun sounds, I mean.

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Because nobody's going to get the reference.

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 8:03 AM

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@prisma saddle yeah i was considering it

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the mandibles already sorta sway with the bobbing

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@wary zealot - That sounds like an oonst bass kick

prisma saddle Oct 18, 2017, 8:05 AM

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Sorta sounds a bit bit crushed.

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I like it.

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 8:06 AM

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It's a bass kick from a dumb song I like.

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I've decided I guess I'll keep the effect in, but I don't know what powerup to replace with this one.

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What would be a good powerup to be replaced with doubled firing speed?

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Lightamp goggles, maybe? Or maybe it could be a knock-on effect of the megasphere?

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 8:09 AM

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blur sphere if you want to keep existing powerups

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since its more of a curse than a buff

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 8:09 AM

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The blursphere is already replaced with a minigun, unfortunately.

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 8:10 AM

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well

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rather than replacing an existing power up

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you could make a specific monster have a small chance of dropping it

prisma saddle Oct 18, 2017, 8:10 AM

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Or maybe add it to enhance Beserk.

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 8:10 AM

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That's a good idea, Hatsu.

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Berserk is currently kind of underpowered since your only melee ability is a quick punch the pistol has, and it's super slow.

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 8:48 AM

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considering that it would be combined with berserk, you would have no reason to punch things

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(unless you had no ammo)

livid hearth Oct 18, 2017, 9:10 AM

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@wary zealot Looks like TMC beat me to it

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Actually

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why not use the aggression idea to trigger the doubled firing speed?

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 9:37 AM

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egh

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internet running like poo

prisma saddle Oct 18, 2017, 9:38 AM

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Rip.

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 8:35 PM

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You know what, Madame, that's a good idea.

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Killing a bunch of enemies in quick succession giving you bonuses would be awesome.

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I just don't know if that's possible using ONLY decorate.

light prism Oct 18, 2017, 8:40 PM

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the acs would be relatively simple

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 9:44 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZX-L5RHAwQ

YouTube

Rallinth

Wandersphere Testing

▶ Play video

livid hearth Oct 18, 2017, 9:52 PM

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@wary zealot A_GiveToTarget in the monster's deth state

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and then write an ACS script that runs on players as soon as they enter that slowly decays the amount you have

wary zealot Oct 18, 2017, 9:54 PM

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Ah, alright.

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 12:00 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viUz4nkD2vY

YouTube

Rallinth

Wandersphere Minigun Behavior

▶ Play video

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More dumb stuff involving the powerup.

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 12:35 AM

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(copy-pasted from the zdoom thread for my mod, because I want to get as much feedback on this idea as possible)

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"I've had an idea for a new BFG replacement but I'm not sure how well it would work in practice, and I'm not sure where to find the right sprites for it. In essence, it would be a single shot, one-barreled absurdly large shotgun. It wouldn't be directly selectable as a weapon, like the grenades. Instead, pressing the specialized keybind for it (User state 2) will cause your current weapon to go off to the side whilst you whip out the shotgun, then fire it. It'd be comparable in power to the super shotgun, if not more powerful, as its shells would ONLY spawn from Large Cell packs, with a low chance of spawning from regular energy cells. The weapon wouldn't be automatically reloaded after being fired, however. Pressing the button again will cause you to unequip your current weapon (because you need two hands to reload it), reload the shotgun, then put it away and requip your weapon. If this were added, the shotgun attachment for the rifle would be nerfed to more closely resemble the normal Doom shotgun, as to not make this new weapon useless. What are you guys' thoughts?"

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 12:40 AM

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TL;DR

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not sure how this counts as a bfg replacement

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 12:48 AM

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currently the BFG replacement in the mod is an upgrade for the rifle that allows you to fire 30 bullets in one shot at the cost of a magazine, and since it's literally A_Firebullets with the same damage as the normal firing mode, just set to fire 30 bullets with virtually no spread, hitting an enemy to it is like firing an entire magazine of rifle ammo into an enemy and not missing one shot.

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I'm personally not a fan of this upgrade, weirdly. So that's why I'm thinking of replacing it with the above idea.

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The supershotgun in the mod is just replaced with ammo, so that's why I want the super-shotgun esqe upgrade to replace the BFG, as it'll be comparable to the BFG in terms of damage.

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Sorry, does that make any more sense?

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Replacing the BFG with what is effectively a big-ass shotgun isn't actually that much of a change of functionality from the vanilla BFG, due to the weird way the BFG behaves.

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 12:55 AM

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why not have some wildly different weapon for the bfg replacement

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i mean thats what the bfg is, it has a completely unique mechanic compared to all the other guns

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replacing it with 'like the other guns but more powerful' seems defeatist

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 12:55 AM

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That's a good point.

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 12:56 AM

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example: i made a 'goo gun' that fired a bouncing projectile with very short range (about 6 player lengths in front of you)

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 12:56 AM

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Thank you, I'm just having trouble thinking of what could be a good replacement for the BFG that could act like a quick-use weapon/upgrade.

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 12:56 AM

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it ripped through enemies for low damage, but its main damage happened when it finished bouncing

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so there was only one specific spot that would actually cause full damage

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however the full damage was essentially the full blast of a bfg + tracers

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so the tradeoff is you needed to be extremely accurate with it, however a properly landed shot could kill a baron in one hit

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this is back in the skulltag days, it could even take out the super baron, whatever they were called

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 1:06 AM

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Hm...

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So what do you think would be a good, totally unique upgrade or quick-use item?

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Wait, I think I have an idea.

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The one thing my mod doesn't have is a melee weapon.

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The one thing I can think of, I mean, my mod is missing many things.

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Like polish and any kind of quality.

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Anyways, maybe I should make the BFG replacement some crazy sword.

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Swords are fun.

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Thanks for the inspiration, Cat!

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Again!

uneven quiver Oct 19, 2017, 1:24 AM

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Never liked melee weapons in the doom engine :/

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Like in Hexen

royal wave Oct 19, 2017, 1:24 AM

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only game that made me enjoy melee was L4D2

uneven quiver Oct 19, 2017, 1:24 AM

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only exception is the chainsaw, that's great

royal wave Oct 19, 2017, 1:25 AM

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Oh and shadow warrior

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but that's only because those games actually made melee items function as melee instead of a singluar frame where a hit action is called

uneven quiver Oct 19, 2017, 1:26 AM

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yep, melee in Shadow Warrior is great, I remember the light saber being good in Dark Forces II

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 1:28 AM

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Hm.

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I wonder how I could make melee feel good in my mod, then.

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Perhaps I could make it attack in an arc using a hacky method?

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Like... maybe I could summon three tiny explosions in front of the player that appear for only 1 tic, and they're in a line to simulate an arc.

royal wave Oct 19, 2017, 1:30 AM

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Instead of it being a singular hit

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make it perform a series of hits across it's animation

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 1:30 AM

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That too.

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Probably a much better idea than invisible explosions.

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The biggest problem so far is finding sprites.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 1:47 AM

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Add a combo system

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the more hits in a combo, the more damage you deal

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and then at some point you'd be able to fire plasma blades from your sword as you swing

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but only as long as you have plasma ammo

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make it so that ammo is optional, and when it runs out, it deals half damage

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and doesn't benefit from combos

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 1:59 AM

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That's exactly what I was thinking.

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Well, aside from ammo.

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I was just thinking that the more times you hit something the more damage you do.

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But the ammo is also a good idea, thanks!

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You guys are really awesome.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 2:08 AM

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I try to help

uneven quiver Oct 19, 2017, 2:11 AM

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that sounds cool

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 2:12 AM

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I really like melee in games, when it's done right.

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Doing it right in doom may be difficult, but I'll figure something out.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 2:15 AM

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Something I learned from experience

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Spawning invisible explosions work better in most cases, especially if you want to give your weapons a sweeping attack range that is not just straight in front of you

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using the native custom punch functions works better for thrusting attacks, like thrust kicks (Duke's might boot attack) punches and stabs

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 2:34 AM

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Hm.

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I'm trying to use A_Refire to allow the attack to be combo'd, but I guess since it isn't actually in a Zoom, Fire, or Altfire state it won't work.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 2:41 AM

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You can actually use a state as a parameter

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A_Refire("StateLabel")

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 2:42 AM

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I can, but that doesn't work for what I want.

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It's hard to explain but I've managed to figure it out.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 2:42 AM

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Ohh right

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 2:42 AM

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Sorry.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 2:42 AM

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you're using another weapon state

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 2:42 AM

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I've managed to figure out a super hacky workaround that basically uses a_weaponready with a bunch of flags to simulate A_Refire

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good god, my code would make wildweasel cry.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 2:43 AM

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Nah

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 2:43 AM

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"why have you used my tutorials to do THIS"

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 2:43 AM

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it's probably what he'd do

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 2:46 AM

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I'm thinking maybe instead of using ammo, the axe will fire out zelda-esqe beams when you're at 100 health.

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Or maybe I could make the axe COST health?

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That could be interesting.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 2:48 AM

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The Axe is the BFG replacement right?

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 2:48 AM

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Yep.

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I'm thinking it'll be 'haunted', kind of like TF2's Eyelander.

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I need some excuse for it to be absurdly powerful.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 2:49 AM

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Ahh

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 3:06 AM

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sorry had to go help in the factory

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 3:39 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNRVVxrvlXc

YouTube

Rallinth

Axe Testing (way too much screen movement)

▶ Play video

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It looks terrible right now, but it's a proof of concept.

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Yes, I know the handle gets cut off on the windup frames.

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and there's way too much screen movement, and too little range and damage.

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The screen movement serves a purpose though, to simulate an arc.,

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 3:42 AM

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That feels really good.

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 3:43 AM

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Are you being sarcastic?

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No offense, I'm just wondering.

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 3:43 AM

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No, really,

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 3:43 AM

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Because I'm not really sure what does or doesn't feel good to other players.

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 3:43 AM

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It feels pretty damn good.

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 3:43 AM

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Oh, wow.

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Thank you!

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 3:44 AM

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Would add a smear to the axe swing though.

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 3:44 AM

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I'm going to give it some more range and damage, and give the puff for it +Ripper so it's able to damage multiple enemies.

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 3:44 AM

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To make it feel like motion blur and such.

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 3:44 AM

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Ah, yeah, I'd do that if I could sprite.

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 3:45 AM

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@wary zealot All you really need to do is warp it really.

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 3:45 AM

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Warp?

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 3:45 AM

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As in, make one of the frames of animation look like one of these.

📎 SmearInbetween.png

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 3:46 AM

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Oh, yeah!

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Good ol' smearing.

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 3:46 AM

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Smears are wondeful things.

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A good smear can make something feel really fast.

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Right now it sorta looks a bit stuttery.

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 3:47 AM

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Mhm.

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 3:48 AM

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wheeee homeitme in a mo

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btw hatsu that is the weirdest example i have ever seen

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 3:48 AM

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The Dover boys is the smear incarnate.

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Watch it.

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Wondeful short film by Chuck Jones.

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📎 910.png

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Add a smear and it'll make any animation feel snappier and faster.

uneven quiver Oct 19, 2017, 3:54 AM

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yep, that axe is looking good

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 4:04 AM

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Thanks!

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I implemented your smear idea, Hatsu, but in a super basic way.

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It helps it look less jaggy, though.

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This is what the "smears" look like.

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📎 AXEGI0.png

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📎 AXEGJ0.png

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJCI4T1Oi9M

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 4:15 AM

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👍

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 4:16 AM

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I'm going to add some screenshake to it, though, because I love me some screenshake.

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And I'm going to of course add extra damage while zerk'd.

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Oh god, I just remembered that I have a powerup that doubles weapon speed in the mod. What does that do to the axe?

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Also, copying all of these states over to the M16 is gonna be a fucking nightmare.

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It'll be worth it, though, I'm pretty happy with the reception to the axe.

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 5:58 AM

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📎 0002.gif

red peak Oct 19, 2017, 5:59 AM

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Maybe you can make it shoot a projectile from the middle horn

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 6:00 AM

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yeah i was thinkin it would charge up a big shot from between its horns

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it has kind of a 'claw' shape from the side

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im just doing a 45 degree render atm

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its almost like quake symbol

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📎 0002.gif

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i also gave him a 'chomp' animation, a 'sting' with the spinal cord, and a few pain anims

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so far

red peak Oct 19, 2017, 7:55 AM

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Cool

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All we need is a programmer to turn it into a working enemy

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 8:10 AM

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uhhh i can do that

royal wave Oct 19, 2017, 8:28 AM

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he said a programmer

red peak Oct 19, 2017, 8:29 AM

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It can inherit behavior from the Cacodemon, with some extra code for the sting attack

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Unless behavior inheritance is for weapons only

royal wave Oct 19, 2017, 8:31 AM

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inheritance works across all classes

red peak Oct 19, 2017, 8:33 AM

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Good

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We just need a sprite sheet

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 8:47 AM

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Yeah TMC is a modder

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AFAIK he was part of the Whodunnit dev team

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I also remembered him working on some mod that abused user vars to some interesting effects

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 9:03 AM

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i wouldnt inherit for this

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i wrote some custom lost soul code that abused thrustthing/z ages ago

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probs do something liket hat again

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it makes them approach but then skirt around you at a given distance

unreal oyster Oct 19, 2017, 9:17 AM

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Did you know

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Lost souls can move at faster than the speed of light

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Given an extreme height difference

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Because the XY and Z movement is handled separately

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So if the distance on the XY plane is low but the distance on Z is super high, it gains insane vertical velocity

haughty flower Oct 19, 2017, 9:33 AM

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glare

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Are Lost Souls the future to solving humanity's space travel problems?

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glarethink

royal wave Oct 19, 2017, 9:57 AM

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We must harvest this power

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And we shall call it

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Argent Energy

red peak Oct 19, 2017, 10:16 AM

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One unit of Argent Energy is the equivalent of the energy of a hundred thousand angry South Americans

haughty flower Oct 19, 2017, 10:19 AM

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Angry American : The Game

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 10:24 AM

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yeah @unreal oyster , i noticed that when i made a map that instantly drops a huge amount

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(the floor)

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the doppler effect on their scream is pretty amusing

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cant use batch sprite render for this sadly 😦

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it rotates the mesh in front of the camera rather than rotating the camera around the mesh

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which screws with the particle system for the fire

uneven quiver Oct 19, 2017, 7:08 PM

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trying to add more punch to the weapons and the hook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CklTjGXyvMs

YouTube

homembarata

Speed and impact test

▶ Play video

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 10:09 PM

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Is adding custom blood effects to my mod a bad idea?

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Considering it isn't meant to be used with monster packs.

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 10:16 PM

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well usually custom mobs will have their own bloods, yeah

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 11:00 PM

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Ah.

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Question, how can I detect when an actor is checking a wall?

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Is touching*

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 11:25 PM

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I am not sure if that is possible

light prism Oct 19, 2017, 11:29 PM

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there are ways but they are hacky

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you can fire a 'test' hitscan with a limited distance

wary zealot Oct 19, 2017, 11:35 PM

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Ah/.

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I was honestly asking because I wanted to see if I could make blood droplets that would slide down walls (unfortunately inspired by BD, but more optimized and less over the top), but honestly I think having blood that sticks to floors and ceilings is good enough.

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I doubt I'll even keep it in the mod, it's mainly just a test.

lavish hollow Oct 19, 2017, 11:45 PM

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There's nothing wrong with being inspired by BD, just because no one here likes it doesn't mean you can't use ideas from it

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 11:47 PM

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mhmm

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my issue with BD is not the mod itself, to me it's just mediocre and superceded by project brutality, my issue with BD is with the coding practices that it promotes

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 11:48 PM

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Say what you want about him as a person, but SGT Mark 4 does know game feel.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 11:49 PM

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Half of people's first modding projects I look at these days has entire chunks of code copied wholesale from brutal Doom's code

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and Brutal Doom's code is a dysfunctional mess

prisma saddle Oct 19, 2017, 11:49 PM

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Yeah, the hole "Got I" think is a great example of SGT marks programming stuff.

warped rampart Oct 19, 2017, 11:50 PM

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I try to use my own code, and I try to give credit if I end up using another person's code.

lavish hollow Oct 19, 2017, 11:50 PM

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You see, this is a valid criticism, the coding being shite.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 11:50 PM

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For me, I figure it out on my own, if I can't I just don't do it

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Sure I look at other mods for ideas

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but ultimately I devise my own systems

lavish hollow Oct 19, 2017, 11:53 PM

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One of the "selling points" for my mod is that it's just weapons, so you can load it with Ketchup or any other monster mods

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Only other connection to BD is I use an old version of the chainsaw, but it's heavily edited so yeah

uneven quiver Oct 19, 2017, 11:54 PM

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what's the consensus here o brutal doom?

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*on

warped rampart Oct 19, 2017, 11:55 PM

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It's okay, but I'd prefer other mods or vanilla Doom at the end of the day.

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 11:55 PM

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It was good for its time, but it's already superceded by PB

lavish hollow Oct 19, 2017, 11:55 PM

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@uneven quiver there's like a handful of people who actually like it

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 11:55 PM

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and other branches of Brutal Doom

lavish hollow Oct 19, 2017, 11:56 PM

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PB is really the only one that's "better" tho

uneven quiver Oct 19, 2017, 11:56 PM

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I personally don't like it, it's fun for a while, I understand the appeal but it kinda breaks the game too much for me

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DOOM is already perfect

#

what's PB?

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 11:56 PM

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Project Brutality

lavish hollow Oct 19, 2017, 11:56 PM

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v21 is better to me since PB is a bit too complex for my tastes

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 11:57 PM

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I actually like PB for how OTT complex it is

lavish hollow Oct 19, 2017, 11:57 PM

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Project Brutality is BD with more guns, monsters, and features

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 11:57 PM

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It's Brutal Doom turned up to 111

lavish hollow Oct 19, 2017, 11:57 PM

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Like, several times more

uneven quiver Oct 19, 2017, 11:57 PM

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interesting

livid hearth Oct 19, 2017, 11:58 PM

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The only real issue is that it, by its nature and design, turns even slower paced maps up to 11 in terms of intensity

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Which can get overstimulating at times

lavish hollow Oct 19, 2017, 11:59 PM

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Exactly

uneven quiver Oct 19, 2017, 11:59 PM

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watching a video.

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yep, that's not for me, I'm too much of a purist

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:00 AM

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There's not even just new weapons, there's weapon attachments

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Which isn't a bad thing, it's just a little too much imo

livid hearth Oct 20, 2017, 12:01 AM

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If you want something that is more Purist, IMO Weapons of Saturn works better

uneven quiver Oct 20, 2017, 12:01 AM

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no iron sights in my doom

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:01 AM

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Yeah that's a problem with both mods lmao

uneven quiver Oct 20, 2017, 12:01 AM

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I admire all the work these guys have done though

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all the new animations and effects

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:04 AM

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Yeah, a lot of the effects are just fantastic

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Probably the biggest problem with PB: they're really bad with credits

uneven quiver Oct 20, 2017, 12:10 AM

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on topic, I finished ultimate and doom II a lot of times but never played many mods, is there a list of must play mods or something like that? I'm more interested in cool level design than novelty stuff

livid hearth Oct 20, 2017, 12:10 AM

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Alien vendetta

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:10 AM

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Maps or mods?

livid hearth Oct 20, 2017, 12:11 AM

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Unloved

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:12 AM

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Scythe 2 is a nice mapset.

uneven quiver Oct 20, 2017, 12:12 AM

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maps I guess

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Unloved was remade into a full game wasn't it?

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:12 AM

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Yeah, and unfortunately the full game sucked.

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From what I've heard, at least.

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:13 AM

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If you like hardcore stuff, Maps of Chaos is a nice pack, as it's more of an enhancement of vanilla doom maps

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And yeah samurai is right

livid hearth Oct 20, 2017, 12:13 AM

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Unloved is a GZDoom mod

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:13 AM

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Yeah but there was a remake

uneven quiver Oct 20, 2017, 12:13 AM

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yeah, it's on Steam. It was remade in Unreal Engine 4

livid hearth Oct 20, 2017, 12:14 AM

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Unloved II got abandoned due to BlueEagle being unable to deal with engine limits, and moved on to remaking the concept of Unloved II into its own standalone game

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:14 AM

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It's its own full game now, tho you can of course still get the map pack

uneven quiver Oct 20, 2017, 12:14 AM

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gonna check those, thanks

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:18 AM

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Question.

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My blood effects in my mod currently spawn about three actors upon you shooting something.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:18 AM

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I'd probably make the blood fadeout time alot longer.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:18 AM

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They disappear quickly for performance's sake.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:18 AM

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But that's just me.

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Maybe make a Cvar or something that you can control?

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:18 AM

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I want to know, how many actors can Gzdoom handle before it starts to shit itself?

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I don't know how to do cvars, currently, but when I figure that out I'll do that.

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I'm still super new to doom modding or any sort of programming.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:19 AM

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It'd probably be a smarter idea to have fewer but larger decals.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:19 AM

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I'll try upping the amount of time before blood fades out and see how much it takes to make the game lag, but I have a pretty beefy computer.

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:20 AM

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Maybe you should try working with something weaker, like testing your mod on D Touch or something

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:20 AM

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That's a good idea. Is d-touch built off of GZDOOM? My mod uses rollsprite excessively.

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:21 AM

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It is, but it's gzdoom 1.8.10

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:21 AM

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Oooo.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:21 AM

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Best advice would be, use larger decals and fewer actors.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:21 AM

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Then it might not work.

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:21 AM

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Well, try it with an old build of gzdoom, or zandronum

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:21 AM

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There's a reason why most blood decals in early 3D games are pretty large.

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Or maybe shamble together a decal clumping system.

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Where if a buncha decals are in the same place, it replaces them with a puddle.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:25 AM

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Is that possible with decorate?

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:25 AM

#

uh

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the game can handle thousands of actors

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provided they arent doing anythiing too intensive

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:26 AM

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Really?

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Okay then.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:26 AM

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I'd say make the fadeout time about 30 seconds.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:27 AM

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or aren't all high-polycount models

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:28 AM

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I knew Gzdoom was powerful, but I didn't realize it could handle thousands of actors.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:29 AM

#

there are maps with thousands of monster actors at a time

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:29 AM

#

A decal clumping system would be pretty cool though.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:29 AM

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It would.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:29 AM

#

there is also wormsdoom

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https://i.imgur.com/YXvcoDc.mp4

Imgur

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:30 AM

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WormsDoom? Holy shit, I've never heard of that, that's cool!

#

Wait a minute. Are each of those voxels an actor?

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:31 AM

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yes, landscape is all actors

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:31 AM

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Well, looks like you've proven your point.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:31 AM

#

though they are models, not voxels

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if they were voxels engine would probs be shitting itself

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:32 AM

#

And then there's mods like TC which push the engine to it's logical limits.

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Even if it does use 3D models for decals instead of flatsprites.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:32 AM

#

TC does drain my fps somewhat

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he has worked on improving it for lower-end systems though

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and the newer gzd builds help too

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i was stuck on a shit pc while helping develop the GUI for TC

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so instead of running it inside the project, i devved it in an entirely seperate project

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:33 AM

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I do admit I pushed for blood decals pretty hard for TC.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:33 AM

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20171019_183236.png

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You guys weren't kidding, jesus christ

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Each of those blood decals is it's own actor and I'm still at 60fps

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:34 AM

#

yeah, obviously you still want to manage that stuff

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:34 AM

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Man zdoom is well optimized

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:34 AM

#

with fades and whatnot

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:34 AM

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Yeah, "In case of slaughterwad"

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:34 AM

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I'd say still fade them out though.

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Either use a decal limit or fade them out based on time.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:34 AM

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in case of 'i cant find the key under all this blood'

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:34 AM

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Oh god

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Mistercat, that sounds hilarious.

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"Where the hell is the red keycard?"

lavish hollow Oct 20, 2017, 12:35 AM

#

The blood sprites are a little too redundant

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:36 AM

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Maybe add a few more sprite variants.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:36 AM

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make scaling randomization

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:36 AM

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It sorta just looks like a poppy field.

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Now.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:36 AM

#

There already is scaling randomization, but it's super minor.

#

I'll turn it up and see how it looks.

#

Sprite variants would be nice, but I can't seem to find blood sprites in doom's style.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:38 AM

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@wary zealot

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I can try and make some.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:38 AM

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Oh man, you'd really do that?

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Thank you so much.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:38 AM

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Yeah, totes.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:39 AM

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What's a good way to select random sprites, by the way?

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:39 AM

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Not sure what res I should use though.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:39 AM

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Eh, just make them smaller than 120x120 and I'll be able to resize them as needed using the 'scale' property.

#

Thank you so much, again.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:41 AM

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POOP B -1
POOP C -1
POOP D -1
etc```

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:41 AM

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Ah, okay. Thanks!

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:41 AM

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if state number jumps work that way

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:47 AM

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They sort of do, yeah.

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@prisma saddle If you could do me a huge favor with those blood sprites, could you make versions of the splats that look 'multicolored' and purple? Kind of rainbowy. I'm asking because I'm going to make it so that in the mod, whilst under the effect of the "Wandersphere", the blood looks all bright and multicolored.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:49 AM

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Sure.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:51 AM

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Thank you so much, again.

#

A friend just linked me the mortal kombat 3 blood sprites, they look nice but I doubt they'd fit as well as sprites actually drawn to resemble doom's style.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:54 AM

#

grouse

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:54 AM

#

How does this look?

📎 Splatter_1_large.png

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:56 AM

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That looks awesome!

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Thank you!

#

Is that the finished sprite, and can I use it now, or should I wait?

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:57 AM

#

This is the actual sprite BTW.

📎 Splatter_1.png

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Had to upscale it for the Discord post.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 12:58 AM

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is this man making his own blood sprites?

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:58 AM

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He is, for me, and he's amazing.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 12:58 AM

#

those sure are some red pixels!!!!

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 12:58 AM

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Yup.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 12:59 AM

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that idea is still floating in my head btw

#

what I said days ago

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:59 AM

#

What idea, Nick?

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 12:59 AM

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the Doom Fortress totally unoriginal Mann vs Machine but it's demons thing

#

it's Doom Fortress co-op basically

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so

#

Slaughtersomething

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 12:59 AM

#

That's a neat idea.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 12:59 AM

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Stronghold

#

as Zavus said

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:00 AM

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I think the reason a wave-based mode could be fun in doom's engine is because due to the insane amount of stuff it can handle, you could have persistent blood/corpses/casings/etcetera.

#

The aftermath of multiple waves would just be hilariously cluttered.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:00 AM

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it's just a way to bring back the classic invasion mode anyway

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 1:01 AM

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I also did that candy splatter.

📎 Candy_Splatter_1_Large.png

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:01 AM

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ooh nce

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*nice

#

you made a Nintendo version

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for blood

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 1:01 AM

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Danganronpa DooM.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:01 AM

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And/or A "The Quick Brown fox" version.

#

If you get the reference, you get a dollar.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:01 AM

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not really

#

how about a free SSG instead

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:02 AM

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But yes, the candy splatter looks great, thanks!

#

Let me implement the normal splatter first and see how things look.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 1:02 AM

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DooM guy got high off of Beserk and now sees red as purple.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:02 AM

#

why dont you just make a grayscale version that can adapt the palette of whatever is being shot

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 1:02 AM

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Hmmm.

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:02 AM

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MisterCat, I would, but I don't know how.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 1:02 AM

#

Yeah, maybe I'll try that.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:03 AM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Actor_properties#BloodColor

Actor properties

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quit saying 'i dont know'

#

the wiki exists

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:04 AM

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sorry.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:04 AM

#

what, "I don't know rn" would work then?

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:04 AM

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Nick, he has a good point.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:04 AM

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"I can't be bothered checking the wiki"

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 1:07 AM

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Converted it to grayscale.

📎 Splatter_1_Gray.png

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:07 AM

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Ah, sweet.

#

Cream, thank you so much for the sprites, but they seem a little too shiny and colorful for doom, for some reason.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:08 AM

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just dull the light edges

#

remove the faux specularity

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 1:09 AM

#

📎 Splatter_1_Gray_2.png

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:11 AM

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might be too dark now

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but whatevs

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 1:11 AM

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Oh.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:11 AM

#

just up the overall brightness

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:11 AM

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I'll try the first grayscale one and see how it goes.

prisma saddle Oct 20, 2017, 1:11 AM

#

📎 Splatter_1_Gray_2.png

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:11 AM

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That looks good.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:13 AM

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I really should get to trying to make some parts of that co-op Doom Fortress thing.

#

Hmm

#

Doom Fortress: Mann vs Satan, or Mann vs Demon?

#

or Demonn?

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:15 AM

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Do generic enemies like zombiemen, cacos, etcetera have bloodcolors set already?

#

Or will I need to set that myself?

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:15 AM

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find out

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:18 AM

#

is it possible to make a weapon slow you down?

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:19 AM

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Yep.

#

I've done that in my mod, actually, with the minigun.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:19 AM

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making sure I wasn't going insane

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because I think my googling is ass

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:20 AM

#

MisterCat, question, why are you being so hostile when I ask questions? I understand that the wiki is there, but sometimes it's quicker to ask real people.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:21 AM

#

and I can't find anything on slowing down when using a certain weapon

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:21 AM

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It's pretty simple, Nick.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:21 AM

#

no

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:21 AM

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Use A_Setspeed in one of the weapon's states.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:21 AM

#

often a question is more quickly answered by testing in game environment

#

and better than a text description

#

especially 'what happens if I change this variable'

#

so 'find out' is actually the most helpful answer

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:22 AM

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jfc

#

Slade lvoes to ask if it's ok to save

#

not UAC

#

I mean "do you want to save yadda yadda"

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:23 AM

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im not being hostile, that would be more like 'what a dumb fucking question, stop modding you idiot'

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:23 AM

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Well, alright, sorry then.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:25 AM

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if I'm a bit terse it's because I'm at work and I can't sit here and type a massive paragraph

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:25 AM

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Ah, I see, I got blood that adapts to bloodcolor working, but not in how I intended because I'm using a 'bloodspawner' actor instead of just replacing the blood actor with my blood, so I can properly put in the 'candy' blood.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:25 AM

#

what country btw

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:25 AM

#

Still, thanks for the help, Cat.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:26 AM

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also, actor...

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do I put DoomPlayer or somethin

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with A_SetSpeed

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:26 AM

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Nope.

#

You put A_SetSpeed in one of the weapon's states.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:26 AM

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It needs a pointer apparently

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:28 AM

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pointers look like AAPTR_MASTER AAPTR_TARGET etc

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AAPTR_SELF

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:38 AM

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Is there a way to set a flatsprite to only be a flatsprite in certain states?

#

I want the blood effects to be 2d when in the air, but be flatsprites when on the ground or ceiling.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:45 AM

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you could have the flatsprite as a separate actor that gets spawned when the blood hits the floor

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:46 AM

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Ah.

#

I'd rather not do that for the sake of simplicity, but thank you.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:46 AM

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ok well

#

https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_ChangeFlag

A ChangeFlag

#

note the warning at the top

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:46 AM

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Yeah, saw that.

#

Depreciated, dang.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:47 AM

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that doesnt mean you cant use it

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it just means that it would be easier under zscript

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:47 AM

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Yeah, but I'd rather not for the sake of futureproofing.

light prism Oct 20, 2017, 1:47 AM

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then have it spawn a flatsprite actor

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its the simpler option

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the chances of devs removing features is next to none btw

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in order to preserve backwards compatibility with mods

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 1:54 AM

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20171019_195355.png

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I'm trying out modified MK sprites for blood.

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Probably going to need to edit them more but I'm feeling good about it.

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And make some variants, of course.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 1:59 AM

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@wary zealot waht chu makin

livid hearth Oct 20, 2017, 1:59 AM

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@wary zealot You gonna add burning and peeing mechanics to the mod?

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😛

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 2:00 AM

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Hah, no.

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Actually... burning could be fun, but pissing, no.

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That's nature's call territory.

livid hearth Oct 20, 2017, 2:01 AM

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Plasma rifle with secondary plasma flamethrower

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 2:04 AM

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I actually had an idea for a "Postal DOOM" mod years ago.

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Maybe when I finish this one, I might make it.

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It'd play kind of like Postal 2, but with a bunch of enhancements (mainly in the gunplay department), because Postal 2's gunplay doesn't feel that good.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 2:05 AM

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what is "this one"

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whats u goal

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unless it's Postal 2 in Doom

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 2:06 AM

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I'm not completely sure what my 'end goal' for the mod is, really.

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Get it to a state where everything that needs to be replaced, is replaced. Learn and add ACS to do things I want to do but can't. (powerups that play music, for example).

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Add plenty more upgrades,

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One per weapon is too little.

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And just generally follow feedback, really.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 2:07 AM

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what is your inspiration

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or the "feel"?

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 2:07 AM

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My inspiration started out with tactical shooters. And it's still kind of there, with the attachments and slow reloads, but it's kind of being steered into a less serious, more silly direction.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 2:08 AM

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so, I guess it's Rising Storm 2 with DOOM elements?

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since I guess you can consider RS2 to be Vietnam ARMA but still a game

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 2:08 AM

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Not THAT tactical.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 2:08 AM

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so, Rainbow Six lite DOOM?

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 2:08 AM

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That's kind of how it started, but now it's going a much sillier place.

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With a powerup inspired by speedcore and a bigass minigun.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 2:09 AM

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a powerup is a bigass minigun?

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 2:09 AM

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The minigun behaves sort of like a powerup, yeah.

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Upon picking it up (it replaces blurspheres) you're forced to switch to it. It gets 400 bullets of ammo and that's it. Switching away from it will drop it, and running out of ammo causes it to disappear.

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Holding it slows you down as well, and spinning it up or firing it slows you even more.

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But the sheer amount of firepower the thing has (it does the same damage as the rifle in the mod, implying it uses the same caliber, but fires much faster, doesn't need to reload, and has 400 bullets) makes up for all those downsides.

vocal crypt Oct 20, 2017, 2:11 AM

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does it have a badass song?

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ooh, make sure it plays E1M1 Metal theme

wary zealot Oct 20, 2017, 2:11 AM

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I don't know how to replace with ACS yet, so unfortunately no.

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replace music*